From julian.reschke@gmx.de Wed Mar 2 05:03:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E7B3A67DB for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:03:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.01 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.411, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UeJGtPtGw3X9 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 77DFF3A67F4 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Mar 2011 13:04:22 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.134]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp058) with SMTP; 02 Mar 2011 14:04:22 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1800/wArcw0xxmedlGJVLKaoK2Q9eBgnKKG8R8q3l +k5oDvnm7xlrss Message-ID: <4D6E4048.4000907@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:04:08 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael(tm) Smith" References: <20100902081450.GF58403@sideshowbarker> <4CD18330.7040301@gmx.de> <20101103155402.GB3616@sideshowbarker> In-Reply-To: <20101103155402.GB3616@sideshowbarker> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "up" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:03:35 -0000 On 03.11.2010 16:54, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: > Julian Reschke, 2010-11-03 16:43 +0100: > >> On 02.09.2010 10:14, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: >>> Relation Name: >>> up >>> >>> Description: >>> Provides a link to a document giving the context for the current >>> document. >>> >>> Reference: >>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#link-type-up >>> >>> Notes: >>> Template to be added to W3C HTML5 specification before >>> publication of next Working Draft >> >> This currently says "Refers to a parent document in a hierarchy of >> documents." which I think is slightly clearer. >> >> Furthermore, the HTML5 spec text being referenced currently has the fancy >> "up up up" rule for which we have an open HTML WG issue >> (), so I'd recommend to defer >> it. > > I agree it should be deferred. This relation was removed from HTML5 as of today (). I therefore propose to set the status to "declined". Best regards, Julian From julian.reschke@gmx.de Wed Mar 2 05:04:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23243A6806 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:04:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.972 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.972 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.373, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IZd2TpHe-6FB for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 986603A67D8 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:04:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Mar 2011 13:05:24 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.134]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 02 Mar 2011 14:05:24 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+oVWphg4Co5YOeBeBNOWY/dLYNGwyBna4G7m4K44 gdGgfgpvtoNbsg Message-ID: <4D6E4086.7020000@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:05:10 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael(tm) Smith" References: <20100902082030.GV58403@sideshowbarker> In-Reply-To: <20100902082030.GV58403@sideshowbarker> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "last" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:04:20 -0000 On 02.09.2010 10:20, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: > Relation Name: > last > > Description: > Indicates that the current document is a part of a series, and > that the last document in the series is the referenced document. > > Reference: > http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#link-type-last > > Notes: > Template to be added to W3C HTML5 specification before > publication of next Working Draft This relation was removed from HTML5 as of today (). I therefore propose to set the status to "declined". Best regards, Julian From julian.reschke@gmx.de Wed Mar 2 05:04:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960933A6806 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:04:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.936 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.936 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.337, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e-rNXLJLoWon for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:04:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 482893A67F4 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:04:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Mar 2011 13:05:42 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.134]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp059) with SMTP; 02 Mar 2011 14:05:42 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19/EohgPcV/7tywOaG/bPs9s6QmWFoi+S8Wp5cui4 lSoLM/KQ9bLoqg Message-ID: <4D6E4099.1040606@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:05:29 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael(tm) Smith" References: <20100902081531.GH58403@sideshowbarker> In-Reply-To: <20100902081531.GH58403@sideshowbarker> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "index" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:04:39 -0000 On 02.09.2010 10:15, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: > Relation Name: > index > > Description: > Gives a link to the document that provides a table of contents > or index listing the current document. > > Reference: > http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#link-type-index > > Notes: > Template to be added to W3C HTML5 specification before > publication of next Working Draft This relation was removed from HTML5 as of today (). I therefore propose to set the status to "declined". Best regards, Julian From julian.reschke@gmx.de Wed Mar 2 05:05:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD303A67DB for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:05:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.303, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eBXOoIyUUgIG for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id E4A853A67AD for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:05:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Mar 2011 13:06:53 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.134]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 02 Mar 2011 14:06:53 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19fdYRAcBtfkdQu1obdxmBacbh1BThDwUM4NoSddS xkMHxqKULKQCuy Message-ID: <4D6E40DD.6020702@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:06:37 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael(tm) Smith" References: <20100902082005.GU58403@sideshowbarker> In-Reply-To: <20100902082005.GU58403@sideshowbarker> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "first" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:05:50 -0000 On 02.09.2010 10:20, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: > Relation Name: > first > > Description: > Indicates that the current document is a part of a series, and > that the first document in the series is the referenced document. > > Reference: > http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#link-type-first > > Notes: > Template to be added to W3C HTML5 specification before > publication of next Working Draft This relation was removed from HTML5 as of today (). I therefore propose to set the status to "declined". Best regards, Julian From ed.summers@gmail.com Wed Mar 2 05:33:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E134D3A67D8 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:33:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XkF9oQoF2Hg2 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f172.google.com (mail-iw0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B333A67F9 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:33:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by iwl42 with SMTP id 42so5772550iwl.31 for ; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 05:34:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=F9IBTEV0tXxJZhd0rNtHWOqooRn2h6CnKD3+yvjchrs=; b=A9/YsfFemnkG5eetiQT5jbZHxuxhf/+sIO/CUmh15GB4zURPR2z62VpyiOOdD8kmwu Aqr/s6TBUwbTrOprixrEBtk2RL5gEFkyKtWHLE7dDGI4WasE2jYi44hZ+UykqdKBM4TJ 8osSsENgLgqcqAv/Jz0zpZj1LEeu38JTQ+L10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=JvQLYAyktxHgEAmTYfYFsCS2SIIO3GsLLVwndOZAMaAwdv2hLNcLmSR4Gj4Mjd8Ln3 BzZXuVyLq9Tay97TJfUoy4gccgIbGI646S4kWc3AedVzBwgeU0W5pqnI8B5sF0aebpHV NG0f93dhOwCRUea1NCty6aLKEB/5/99Qh+gF8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.180.71 with SMTP id bt7mr8447706icb.13.1299072885406; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 05:34:45 -0800 (PST) Sender: ed.summers@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.37.135 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:34:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D6E40DD.6020702@gmx.de> References: <20100902082005.GU58403@sideshowbarker> <4D6E40DD.6020702@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:34:45 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: F3xD4ZQRJg0W9am6C0VfqNjgKqw Message-ID: From: Ed Summers To: link-relations@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "first" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:33:49 -0000 For those not completely tuned into HTML5 development, is there a good summary of why these relations were removed? //Ed On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Julian Reschke wrot= e: > On 02.09.2010 10:20, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: >> >> Relation Name: >> =A0 first >> >> Description: >> =A0 Indicates that the current document is a part of a series, and >> =A0 that the first document in the series is the referenced document. >> >> Reference: >> =A0 http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#link-type-first >> >> Notes: >> =A0 Template to be added to W3C HTML5 specification before >> =A0 publication of next Working Draft > > This relation was removed from HTML5 as of today > (). > > I therefore propose to set the status to "declined". > > Best regards, Julian > > _______________________________________________ > link-relations mailing list > link-relations@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations > From julian.reschke@gmx.de Wed Mar 2 05:40:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11D73A67D8 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:40:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.869 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.869 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.270, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9L4J4yUOInhW for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:40:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 915683A67B7 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:40:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Mar 2011 13:41:15 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.134]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp048) with SMTP; 02 Mar 2011 14:41:15 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18lVjt1VhUlhlNg1CIrDlOoZHEKiPC6/cw4yenYlw KNRgXI2dPRCZ8G Message-ID: <4D6E48EC.1050304@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:41:00 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Summers References: <20100902082005.GU58403@sideshowbarker> <4D6E40DD.6020702@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "first" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:40:14 -0000 On 02.03.2011 14:34, Ed Summers wrote: > For those not completely tuned into HTML5 development, is there a good > summary of why these relations were removed? > ... There was disagreement about their definitions, some (or all of which) were incompatible with HTML4. See . Rather than fixing them, the spec author proposed to remove them, which in the end got the least objections. Best regards, Julian From julian.reschke@gmx.de Wed Mar 2 05:55:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE8C3A67D8 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:55:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.838 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.838 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.239, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6-y1iUKWF0lJ for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 024923A67E3 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:55:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Mar 2011 13:56:41 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.134]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp038) with SMTP; 02 Mar 2011 14:56:41 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/1/DsqDKz1TA1rqtgM5zS/MLrqqI1JiBhEXiVoXI +lQGYZPL+9YhNo Message-ID: <4D6E4C8C.9070404@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:56:28 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael(tm) Smith" References: <20100902081434.GE58403@sideshowbarker> <4CCD6965.1000901@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4CCD6965.1000901@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "archives" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:55:39 -0000 On 31.10.2010 14:04, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 02.09.2010 10:14, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: >> Relation Name: >> archives >> >> Description: >> Provides a link to a collection of records, documents, or other >> materials of historical interest. >> >> Reference: >> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#link-type-archives >> >> Notes: >> Template to be added to W3C HTML5 specification before >> publication of next Working Draft > > Sounds good to me. This definition was just removed from the Editor's draft of HTML5. Should it get published as a Working Draft, the reference in the IANA registry will be dangling. The simplest possible fix will be to make the link go specifically to the current Working Draft (), which is immutable. Best regards, Julian From williamstw@gmail.com Wed Mar 2 05:59:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A103A67E2 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:59:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GlAYi8H215QH for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC6F3A67B7 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:59:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by yxk30 with SMTP id 30so2738331yxk.31 for ; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 06:00:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JsuYB/UvT/mtE3PsesRje9f7wXO7/8VnVZMIq3UnofY=; b=u3laDMvA2thxG95y/Zoe9K9Hr6upGkIKjs0Lt3VPIUfBxt4C+ybOOafvnsk9G2i5eV H06FN/gVfqyvmKjFd9QxGg2wJi2q0OLJNP++3AcYWFQ0u9zxkvctHCQ+/wgQ9QQv8ht1 oC6ZSYyblAlGOejuYAkqH3XkCVWRxjGUPbUfE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YRmpzexjpnQBTUBG6zONirMN6sk5Mcl4v2dW4XRbgyNpknUyZcRvESiyEgFhg0UmFS E0lVZ993H1LbAD6xvNNgkdNpegLpE2i6byikqGXPVotyc1B9XGknOqk3Ta074WGO/vAW 9voGaugLk8sOFr+YfUX+ff8OstL3WT3GLDfl4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.7.2 with SMTP id k2mr213904ybi.99.1299074417398; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 06:00:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.136.12 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 06:00:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4D6E4086.7020000@gmx.de> References: <20100902082030.GV58403@sideshowbarker> <4D6E4086.7020000@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:00:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tim Williams To: Julian Reschke Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "Michael\(tm\) Smith" , link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "last" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:59:13 -0000 On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Julian Reschke wrot= e: > On 02.09.2010 10:20, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: >> >> Relation Name: >> =A0 last >> >> Description: >> =A0 Indicates that the current document is a part of a series, and >> =A0 that the last document in the series is the referenced document. >> >> Reference: >> =A0 http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#link-type-last >> >> Notes: >> =A0 Template to be added to W3C HTML5 specification before >> =A0 publication of next Working Draft > > > This relation was removed from HTML5 as of today > (). > > I therefore propose to set the status to "declined". What are the other options here? This relation is important (well, to me at least) - among other things, I use it a great deal in paging. Are the options to either get another standard to define it or introduce it independent of a media type? Thanks, --tim From julian.reschke@gmx.de Wed Mar 2 06:05:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C543A67E3 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 06:05:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.809 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.809 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.210, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k3qRM5zbu19u for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 06:05:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id B18673A67E7 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 06:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Mar 2011 14:06:55 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.134]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 02 Mar 2011 15:06:55 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+I9jNEKkaIerZwOecInjD4S0ERs2AptT02Ead6Hx 8Nxam7XzDWKaWj Message-ID: <4D6E4EF1.5020706@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 15:06:41 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Williams References: <20100902082030.GV58403@sideshowbarker> <4D6E4086.7020000@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: "Michael\(tm\) Smith" , link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "last" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 14:05:52 -0000 On 02.03.2011 15:00, Tim Williams wrote: > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> On 02.09.2010 10:20, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: >>> >>> Relation Name: >>> last >>> >>> Description: >>> Indicates that the current document is a part of a series, and >>> that the last document in the series is the referenced document. >>> >>> Reference: >>> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/links.html#link-type-last >>> >>> Notes: >>> Template to be added to W3C HTML5 specification before >>> publication of next Working Draft >> >> >> This relation was removed from HTML5 as of today >> (). >> >> I therefore propose to set the status to "declined". > > What are the other options here? This relation is important (well, to > me at least) - among other things, I use it a great deal in paging. > Are the options to either get another standard to define it or > introduce it independent of a media type? I should have mentioned that these four were "update" requests; that is, they are already in the link relations registry; see . So the only effect is that we're not going to change the registrations we already have. Best regards, Julian From mike@jay.w3.org Thu Mar 3 05:49:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A907A3A6878 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:49:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P92ikkVRXwOA for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:49:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from jay.w3.org (ssh.w3.org [128.30.52.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C563A6866 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:49:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=MikeSmith.local) by jay.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pv8ut-0004il-4e; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:50:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:50:04 +0900 From: "Michael[tm] Smith" To: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <20110303135004.GC180@sideshowbarker> References: <20100902082005.GU58403@sideshowbarker> <4D6E40DD.6020702@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D6E40DD.6020702@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/r6164+poontang (2010-10-13 07:38:30+09:00) Cc: link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "first" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:49:02 -0000 Julian Reschke , 2011-03-02 14:06 +0100: > On 02.09.2010 10:20, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: > >Relation Name: > > first > > This relation was removed from HTML5 as of today > (). > > I therefore propose to set the status to "declined". Yes, OK by me as the submitter to move it to "declined". --Mike -- Michael[tm] Smith http://people.w3.org/mike From mike@jay.w3.org Thu Mar 3 05:49:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3545E3A69DC for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:49:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IhPYHh4IpjZx for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from jay.w3.org (ssh.w3.org [128.30.52.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8EE3A6866 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:49:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=MikeSmith.local) by jay.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pv8vZ-0004kF-N2; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:50:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:50:47 +0900 From: "Michael[tm] Smith" To: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <20110303135046.GD180@sideshowbarker> References: <20100902081531.GH58403@sideshowbarker> <4D6E4099.1040606@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D6E4099.1040606@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/r6164+poontang (2010-10-13 07:38:30+09:00) Cc: link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "index" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:49:43 -0000 Julian Reschke , 2011-03-02 14:05 +0100: > On 02.09.2010 10:15, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: > >Relation Name: > > index > > This relation was removed from HTML5 as of today > (). > > I therefore propose to set the status to "declined". Yes, OK by me as submitter to move it to "declined". --Mike -- Michael[tm] Smith http://people.w3.org/mike From mike@jay.w3.org Thu Mar 3 05:50:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115D73A69DC for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:50:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uO65B7USQBDu for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:50:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from jay.w3.org (ssh.w3.org [128.30.52.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31133A6964 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:50:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=MikeSmith.local) by jay.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pv8wj-0004oT-2h; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:52:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:51:59 +0900 From: "Michael[tm] Smith" To: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <20110303135158.GE180@sideshowbarker> References: <20100902082030.GV58403@sideshowbarker> <4D6E4086.7020000@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D6E4086.7020000@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/r6164+poontang (2010-10-13 07:38:30+09:00) Cc: link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "last" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:50:55 -0000 Julian Reschke , 2011-03-02 14:05 +0100: > On 02.09.2010 10:20, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: > >Relation Name: > > last > > This relation was removed from HTML5 as of today > (). > > I therefore propose to set the status to "declined". Yes, OK by me as submitter to move it to "declined". --Mike -- Michael[tm] Smith http://people.w3.org/mike From mike@jay.w3.org Thu Mar 3 05:52:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6F83A6884 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:52:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mz-JMyFINFf3 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:52:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from jay.w3.org (ssh.w3.org [128.30.52.60]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76243A6403 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2011 05:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=MikeSmith.local) by jay.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pv8xp-0004tl-20; Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:53:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 22:53:06 +0900 From: "Michael[tm] Smith" To: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <20110303135306.GF180@sideshowbarker> References: <20100902081450.GF58403@sideshowbarker> <4CD18330.7040301@gmx.de> <20101103155402.GB3616@sideshowbarker> <4D6E4048.4000907@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4D6E4048.4000907@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/r6164+poontang (2010-10-13 07:38:30+09:00) Cc: link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: [link-relations] NEW RELATION REQUEST: Relation name: "up" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:52:03 -0000 Julian Reschke , 2011-03-02 14:04 +0100: > On 03.11.2010 16:54, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: > >Julian Reschke, 2010-11-03 16:43 +0100: > > > >>On 02.09.2010 10:14, Michael(tm) Smith wrote: > >>>Relation Name: > >>> up > > This relation was removed from HTML5 as of today > (). > > I therefore propose to set the status to "declined". Yes, OK by me as submitter to move it to "declined". --Mike -- Michael[tm] Smith http://people.w3.org/mike From julian.reschke@gmx.de Tue Mar 22 05:22:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD73B28C11A for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 05:22:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.731 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.731 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.132, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b3Jn3VavVUVs for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 05:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 75AFA28C10D for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 05:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 22 Mar 2011 12:23:31 -0000 Received: from mail.greenbytes.de (EHLO [192.168.1.134]) [217.91.35.233] by mail.gmx.net (mp054) with SMTP; 22 Mar 2011 13:23:31 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18LEc8kvokL6Uv1RXCwBsCKCJ7Amzt5Zeernyv8gv HmdN7fZvDro8H5 Message-ID: <4D8894BC.6000201@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:23:24 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "link-relations@ietf.org" , "Michael(tm) Smith" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: [link-relations] HTML APP Data X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 12:22:01 -0000 Hi, the HTML WG has finally decided on the open issue of link relation metadata (see and ). On the other hand, the base issue on whether the HTML spec should use the IANA registry is not yet decided, but getting a survey: and . Mike, should we go ahead and look at the APP data again, or would it make more sense to wait on a decision on ISSUE-27 before proceeding? (After all, if the HTML WG doesn't care about harmonization with this registry then adding the flags provides little benefit, but quite some overhead). Best regards, Julian