From hvdsomp@gmail.com Fri Jan 10 08:13:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEB91AE097 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:13:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GUGkWY3bFTOy for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:13:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x235.google.com (mail-wg0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46551AE07B for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id k14so4344915wgh.32 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:13:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FuwvLBru9Jz4vJhinz/VJk913VKbqToeIb8Uq5RtsxY=; b=VCWWQHPv5A9aGtDJLWLKcAMhf5YVBNC4kFBB71MF9Hnw7bq7ZXSrpS3M35fRVpAXYz cNgELkX6FXH1FOvgQi4wXnjGpt+fD5EEX3foQ0Ilc5CI53ni2GZB4xuefO+z9OQg9Rcd uCVD9IQGTm+vOREdRZdhxFEmT0at68NBPcU5zhf1WDDxx1bI32tw6pAf48KUYvBrnCLQ i5c5gw6HHlaeSWwX+r/sI6Rx+scAV8yv17rAii9cSQlJcupOzLxxfkyo4f4bup+xvVrx TyD3pJt9jWM0GROjGJWN3RDmdhWMItf0yLabbUUA8zYZYr8A3hqXgUajVvOqRZCxPKzK OrsA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.206.41 with SMTP id ll9mr3420016wic.7.1389370378652; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:12:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.172.73 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:12:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:12:58 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: NEW RELATION - resourcesync From: Herbert van de Sompel To: link-relations@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Martin Klein , Graham Klyne , Simeon Warner X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:13:13 -0000 Relation Name: resourcesync Description: The Target IRI points at a capability list, a document that details resource synchronization capabilities provided for a set of resources of which the link's context is a member. Reference: http://www.openarchives.org/rs/resourcesync Notes: The specification is in the process of being standardized as ANSI/NISO z39-99. It is currently openly available from the OAI site. Once it achieves the status of ANSI/NISO standard, it will be openly available on both the OAI and the NISO web sites. Application Data: [optional] -- Herbert Van de Sompel Digital Library Research & Prototyping Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/ == From jan.algermissen@nordsc.com Fri Jan 10 08:24:26 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF3D1AE0D7 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:24:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nu_CCIwfGVnd for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884D31AE0D6 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.90.199.10] ([87.253.171.209]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MPvMs-1Vxmzv3row-004xWl; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 17:24:06 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: NEW RELATION - resourcesync From: Jan Algermissen In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 17:24:05 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <643D1DB1-4F37-472E-A8BE-AF9C0C542248@nordsc.com> References: To: Herbert van de Sompel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:tyP/vGXaRzfzZNIMCgtPlNeGjVGfhieiMYuTyZgTQII 6Uku1JOf+mU6m4RzqvpM0WrSJp6+BYB1cdEkt7uOvu+lPVEcwu dvF4ERvieLwGffjOKnHMVgq58kXUPHMdqhwfdkzCDrUAGy722P 1OcMp/b9/wL50NS8we93uWmM8V2UvI1mQr3iK1MExm8v7m/P0v LMgtYShQK9drNOIiJSjx44Fi6kbP/x1AAGVgX8nNDYBiQjnHed /pkbbPHlBHrYysVxxWgCfG+NQeGjPVcesbu1nfzzUkAInHHbpq ek4PGyo8kK8D4audY9t5kT6TAbCak9NF+TUI4LPl9DN0LAoR7h 7HAQ9wzCUjowtuJKmMnsQA0HxiQoJ8RCSkVKK3WcqaLLS/59Ez JanLROvtN6GYQ== Cc: Graham Klyne , Martin Klein , Simeon Warner , link-relations@ietf.org X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:24:26 -0000 Hi Herbert, On 10.01.2014, at 17:12, Herbert van de Sompel = wrote: > Relation Name: resourcesync >=20 > Description: The Target IRI points at a capability list, a document > that details resource synchronization capabilities provided for a set > of resources of which the link's context is a member. I think this is tied to much to the particular use. I'd rather phrase it = more independently to increase its re-usability. What about: "Description: the Target IRI points to a resource that provides information about resource synchronization capabilities provided by the host (better: authority?)." Any intention of the client to retrieve the information in a particular media type will be expressed and resolved at runtime by means of HTTP. Jan >=20 > Reference: http://www.openarchives.org/rs/resourcesync >=20 > Notes: The specification is in the process of being standardized as > ANSI/NISO z39-99. It is currently openly available from the OAI site. > Once it achieves the status of ANSI/NISO standard, it will be openly > available on both the OAI and the NISO web sites. >=20 > Application Data: [optional] >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Herbert Van de Sompel > Digital Library Research & Prototyping > Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library > http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/ >=20 > =3D=3D > _______________________________________________ > link-relations mailing list > link-relations@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations From mca@amundsen.com Fri Jan 10 08:54:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3AE1AE047 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:54:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.155 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.155 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD=1.63, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_38=0.6, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PEEiRxRVZh5c for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-f175.google.com (mail-we0-f175.google.com [74.125.82.175]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C651ADFB9 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id w62so4357838wes.34 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:54:06 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=4JgoLSkCaHJGGgoE50YeL4ioHkKyXPmvpO+x8diEICk=; b=iS3Km3qNMiE2GZGnfvJEiXHLKDTtqBkq+M4tOpfQlf2K5k9qCJiJs7Vu7u4W5NBFUP civDwV7v/qFOJF1ln0pTlxw6Pyc9/6mNSrdRPHZLReZhc6cqLgO0LQpcKPjyY2rWnQ5i /YCaNLAREEPJ632e6ToEkVPAFOnTq4DbR8NmmuJmWrmULcYq/V5AUivL2BiCf4mEmkaJ 3eAIDBOELMyuqhAdd6+m8yMDZgqDRXTb6SCLr2iM6Apo4ptieK1xqrBSIln+axhw9E9C asxoegnYo3c/nrsK3bEs2G8+uluuyNoGjJuzf7xoUT4eW+6UPYb/3AnzKQN4PFUJJeBx 5s7g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk7fqoNkaYkxWzpQ+ztdF5zNw2NHyBgbtKu9CqujTWIi1OgoIANuli/H7o5Fre8xo4783bg X-Received: by 10.180.228.8 with SMTP id se8mr3595664wic.29.1389372846239; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:54:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mca@amundsen.com Received: by 10.194.119.226 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:53:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <643D1DB1-4F37-472E-A8BE-AF9C0C542248@nordsc.com> References: <643D1DB1-4F37-472E-A8BE-AF9C0C542248@nordsc.com> From: mike amundsen Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 11:53:45 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7AW3xoTOLofWNqTdciSl9tqzX1g Message-ID: Subject: Re: NEW RELATION - resourcesync To: Jan Algermissen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134db54f60e5e04efa09281 Cc: Martin Klein , Graham Klyne , Simeon Warner , link-relations X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:54:18 -0000 --001a1134db54f60e5e04efa09281 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "Description: the Target IRI points to a resource that provides information about resource synchronization options." No need to constrain sync to "host" or "authority" (think P2P, etc.). mamund +1.859.757.1449 skype: mca.amundsen http://amundsen.com/blog/ http://twitter.com/mamund https://github.com/mamund http://linkedin.com/in/mamund On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Jan Algermissen < jan.algermissen@nordsc.com> wrote: > Hi Herbert, > > On 10.01.2014, at 17:12, Herbert van de Sompel wrote: > > > Relation Name: resourcesync > > > > Description: The Target IRI points at a capability list, a document > > that details resource synchronization capabilities provided for a set > > of resources of which the link's context is a member. > > I think this is tied to much to the particular use. I'd rather phrase it > more independently to increase its re-usability. What about: > > "Description: the Target IRI points to a resource that provides > information about resource synchronization capabilities provided > by the host (better: authority?)." > > Any intention of the client to retrieve the information in a particular > media type will be expressed and resolved at runtime by means of > HTTP. > > Jan > > > > > Reference: http://www.openarchives.org/rs/resourcesync > > > > Notes: The specification is in the process of being standardized as > > ANSI/NISO z39-99. It is currently openly available from the OAI site. > > Once it achieves the status of ANSI/NISO standard, it will be openly > > available on both the OAI and the NISO web sites. > > > > Application Data: [optional] > > > > > > -- > > Herbert Van de Sompel > > Digital Library Research & Prototyping > > Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library > > http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/ > > > > == > > _______________________________________________ > > link-relations mailing list > > link-relations@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations > > _______________________________________________ > link-relations mailing list > link-relations@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations > --001a1134db54f60e5e04efa09281 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"Description: the Target IRI points to a resource that provides
information about resource syn= chronization options."

No= need to constrain sync to "host" or "authority" (think= P2P, etc.).




On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Jan Al= germissen <jan.algermissen@nordsc.com> wrote:
Hi Herbert,

On 10.01.2014, at 17:12, Herbert van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com> wrote:

> Relation Name: resourcesync
>
> Description: The Target IRI points at a capability list, a document > that details resource synchronization capabilities provided for a set<= br> > of resources of which the link's context is a member.

I think this is tied to much to the particular use. I'd rather ph= rase it more independently to increase its re-usability. What about:

"Description: the Target IRI points to a resource that provides
information about resource synchronization capabilities provided
by the host (better: authority?)."

Any intention of the client to retrieve the information in a particular
media type will be expressed and resolved at runtime by means of
HTTP.

Jan

>
> Reference: http://www.openarchives.org/rs/resourcesync
>
> Notes: The specification is in the process of being standardized as > ANSI/NISO z39-99. It is currently openly available from the OAI site.<= br> > Once it achieves the status of ANSI/NISO standard, it will be openly > available on both the OAI and the NISO web sites.
>
> Application Data: [optional]
>
>
> --
> Herbert Van de Sompel
> Digital Library Research & Prototyping
> Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library
> http://= public.lanl.gov/herbertv/
>
> =3D=3D
> _______________________________________________
> link-relations mailing list
> link-relations@ietf.org=
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations

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[94.210.141.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e43sm16288409eep.7.2014.01.10.09.41.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:42:01 -0800 (PST) References: <643D1DB1-4F37-472E-A8BE-AF9C0C542248@nordsc.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-0E4E2F05-99EA-4797-8C04-13BD0478CF52 Message-Id: <6DCAEAB9-F05F-4AEA-9C2D-9401C0CBF831@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A523) From: Herbert Van de Sompel Subject: Re: NEW RELATION - resourcesync Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 10:41:59 -0700 To: mike amundsen Cc: Martin Klein , Graham Klyne , Simeon Warner , link-relations X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 17:42:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail-0E4E2F05-99EA-4797-8C04-13BD0478CF52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jan, Mike, Thanks for feedback. Understood that the formulation needs to be more generi= c. OK to go with the below formulation. Do you want me to resubmit the regis= tration request with that formulation? Cheers Herbert Sent from my iPad On Jan 10, 2014, at 9:53, mike amundsen wrote: > "Description: the Target IRI points to a resource that provides > information about resource synchronization options." >=20 > No need to constrain sync to "host" or "authority" (think P2P, etc.). >=20 >=20 >=20 > mamund > +1.859.757.1449 > skype: mca.amundsen > http://amundsen.com/blog/ > http://twitter.com/mamund > https://github.com/mamund > http://linkedin.com/in/mamund >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Jan Algermissen wrote: >> Hi Herbert, >>=20 >> On 10.01.2014, at 17:12, Herbert van de Sompel wrote:= >>=20 >> > Relation Name: resourcesync >> > >> > Description: The Target IRI points at a capability list, a document >> > that details resource synchronization capabilities provided for a set >> > of resources of which the link's context is a member. >>=20 >> I think this is tied to much to the particular use. I'd rather phrase it m= ore independently to increase its re-usability. What about: >>=20 >> "Description: the Target IRI points to a resource that provides >> information about resource synchronization capabilities provided >> by the host (better: authority?)." >>=20 >> Any intention of the client to retrieve the information in a particular >> media type will be expressed and resolved at runtime by means of >> HTTP. >>=20 >> Jan >>=20 >> > >> > Reference: http://www.openarchives.org/rs/resourcesync >> > >> > Notes: The specification is in the process of being standardized as >> > ANSI/NISO z39-99. It is currently openly available from the OAI site. >> > Once it achieves the status of ANSI/NISO standard, it will be openly >> > available on both the OAI and the NISO web sites. >> > >> > Application Data: [optional] >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Herbert Van de Sompel >> > Digital Library Research & Prototyping >> > Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library >> > http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/ >> > >> > =3D=3D >> > _______________________________________________ >> > link-relations mailing list >> > link-relations@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> link-relations mailing list >> link-relations@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations >=20 --Apple-Mail-0E4E2F05-99EA-4797-8C04-13BD0478CF52 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Jan, Mike,

Thanks for feedback. Understood that the formulation needs to be more generic. OK to go with the below formulation. Do you want me to resubmit the registration request with that formulation?

Cheers

Herbert

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 10, 2014, at 9:53, mike amundsen <mamund@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Description: the Target IRI points to a resource that provides
information about resource synchronization options."

No need to constrain sync to "host" or "authority" (think P2P, etc.).




On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Jan Algermissen <jan.algermissen@nordsc.com> wrote:
Hi Herbert,

On 10.01.2014, at 17:12, Herbert van de Sompel <hvdsomp@gmail.com> wrote:

> Relation Name: resourcesync
>
> Description: The Target IRI points at a capability list, a document
> that details resource synchronization capabilities provided for a set
> of resources of which the link's context is a member.

I think this is tied to much to the particular use. I'd rather phrase it more independently to increase its re-usability. What about:

"Description: the Target IRI points to a resource that provides
information about resource synchronization capabilities provided
by the host (better: authority?)."

Any intention of the client to retrieve the information in a particular
media type will be expressed and resolved at runtime by means of
HTTP.

Jan

>
> Reference: http://www.openarchives.org/rs/resourcesync
>
> Notes: The specification is in the process of being standardized as
> ANSI/NISO z39-99. It is currently openly available from the OAI site.
> Once it achieves the status of ANSI/NISO standard, it will be openly
> available on both the OAI and the NISO web sites.
>
> Application Data: [optional]
>
>
> --
> Herbert Van de Sompel
> Digital Library Research & Prototyping
> Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library
> http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/
>
> ==
> _______________________________________________
> link-relations mailing list
> link-relations@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations

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--Apple-Mail-0E4E2F05-99EA-4797-8C04-13BD0478CF52-- From jan.algermissen@nordsc.com Fri Jan 10 09:49:47 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4530E1AE108 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:49:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.951 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.951 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_38=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v6G-KNw8vhGq for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:49:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD00B1AE153 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 09:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.20.10.5] (tmo-108-109.customers.d1-online.com [80.187.108.109]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LpRgn-1VPaAr41e1-00fauS; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:49:34 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: NEW RELATION - resourcesync From: Jan Algermissen In-Reply-To: <6DCAEAB9-F05F-4AEA-9C2D-9401C0CBF831@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:49:30 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <56F02566-1774-42EF-B514-0BDDED061A8C@nordsc.com> References: <643D1DB1-4F37-472E-A8BE-AF9C0C542248@nordsc.com> <6DCAEAB9-F05F-4AEA-9C2D-9401C0CBF831@gmail.com> To: Herbert Van de Sompel X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:d0LW33yLgUNkUSeWQ1c8VpfUfk3LUu11LOf/a8dW3Bs rq9ynAHvdyvK/GjXn3UvrXh7kkV0P3q89M9sEc8SqttxywRgey yQXiXNrU4bhk7LN/th5XHq8Q2uHFY+kbMCJDX6a7BGskorps+R HtQFY1gGUsYB9RjWm9uoXfgkgVl1lca3xAs2zJDHv3Wc+/9i/z BBswZvZbOypR8zF74M9j0Mz4G1t27ch1+hnEZ9ts//SqkRHLyJ pLuhvEg0BvQ2LTlTTMhFpoB/RHzT6snrmM+GmGsKY35oZk3x2r PimouyD4pANMWXgT0Hw4FBgnhg4lIRCAH3N348/Ukb1bN1RQuZ kbCqyuxh5fD0VvkH5S1lS9dptDkK02LMwGbirZ8vVPm3HsVk7o 0r1XNJEHTBxWA== Cc: Martin Klein , Graham Klyne , Simeon Warner , link-relations X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 17:49:47 -0000 On 10.01.2014, at 18:41, Herbert Van de Sompel = wrote: > Jan, Mike, >=20 > Thanks for feedback. Understood that the formulation needs to be more = generic. OK to go with the below formulation. I am good with Mike's too > Do you want me to resubmit the registration request with that = formulation? Not sure. @Julian, @Mark? jan >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Herbert >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > On Jan 10, 2014, at 9:53, mike amundsen wrote: >=20 >> "Description: the Target IRI points to a resource that provides >> information about resource synchronization options." >>=20 >> No need to constrain sync to "host" or "authority" (think P2P, etc.). >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> mamund >> +1.859.757.1449 >> skype: mca.amundsen >> http://amundsen.com/blog/ >> http://twitter.com/mamund >> https://github.com/mamund >> http://linkedin.com/in/mamund >>=20 >>=20 >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Jan Algermissen = wrote: >> Hi Herbert, >>=20 >> On 10.01.2014, at 17:12, Herbert van de Sompel = wrote: >>=20 >> > Relation Name: resourcesync >> > >> > Description: The Target IRI points at a capability list, a document >> > that details resource synchronization capabilities provided for a = set >> > of resources of which the link's context is a member. >>=20 >> I think this is tied to much to the particular use. I'd rather phrase = it more independently to increase its re-usability. What about: >>=20 >> "Description: the Target IRI points to a resource that provides >> information about resource synchronization capabilities provided >> by the host (better: authority?)." >>=20 >> Any intention of the client to retrieve the information in a = particular >> media type will be expressed and resolved at runtime by means of >> HTTP. >>=20 >> Jan >>=20 >> > >> > Reference: http://www.openarchives.org/rs/resourcesync >> > >> > Notes: The specification is in the process of being standardized as >> > ANSI/NISO z39-99. It is currently openly available from the OAI = site. >> > Once it achieves the status of ANSI/NISO standard, it will be = openly >> > available on both the OAI and the NISO web sites. >> > >> > Application Data: [optional] >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Herbert Van de Sompel >> > Digital Library Research & Prototyping >> > Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library >> > http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/ >> > >> > =3D=3D >> > _______________________________________________ >> > link-relations mailing list >> > link-relations@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> link-relations mailing list >> link-relations@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations >>=20 From hvdsomp@gmail.com Sat Jan 11 01:13:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70CBC1AE0EE for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:13:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QNSMHYAFYeuf for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x230.google.com (mail-wg0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::230]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA041A9313 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id x13so4972774wgg.27 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:13:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HtFydctnJA6B9JO289CBqTTNZqsWG7LZ+BKnU7QuWuQ=; b=y0/LyhjoQPy27TufwhvKnYyA9578rY7gQTpkPojkxh4Dvle7AbZJVV0RChL4pGCmhP v8znL50SQBKXPgU5PcyDVftXPFIzVb7sJoQ9Ee1FRvapoqnnBusnaz4LEr5PJIHRaPoV hZ5rgBIQGXATfVMdfjbi/RW5CFQTHDLlOTKH72AehZ24Nr+A+W7uoOcrQ25R/83GGZKd B5h46fIJVJSD3200T07YNUY4C5S83AeU11fL+fx6r4Efs5MjoULsmw/r+9b7LStV+A1v GUBKJNC+o+OAR0J94rrvkNIGo9oKXYtLI6QLvXnOCT38ONgPtnWAWhLtxOjNTQiGafK8 08lw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.206.41 with SMTP id ll9mr6454278wic.7.1389431598550; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:13:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.172.73 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:13:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:13:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: NEW RELATION - resourcesync (resubmission) From: Herbert van de Sompel To: link-relations@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Martin Klein , Graham Klyne , Simeon Warner X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:13:31 -0000 Relation Name: resourcesync Description: The Target IRI points to a resource that provides information about resource synchronization options. Reference: http://www.openarchives.org/rs/resourcesync Notes: The specification is in the process of being standardized as ANSI/NISO z39-99. It is currently openly available from the OAI site. Once it achieves the status of ANSI/NISO standard, it will be openly available on both the OAI and the NISO web sites. Application Data: [optional] -- Herbert Van de Sompel Digital Library Research & Prototyping Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/ == From dret@berkeley.edu Sat Jan 11 01:27:52 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900AD1ADF71 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:27:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.738 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.738 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mRY88MROpw-5 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from cm01fe.IST.Berkeley.EDU (cm01fe.IST.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.218.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F491ADEB7 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from 46-126-158-51.dynamic.hispeed.ch ([46.126.158.51] helo=dretpro.local) by cm01fe.ist.berkeley.edu with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (auth plain:dret@berkeley.edu) (envelope-from ) id 1W1uqx-0003af-5h; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:27:40 -0800 Message-ID: <52D10E88.40508@berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:27:36 +0100 From: Erik Wilde User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Herbert van de Sompel , link-relations@ietf.org Subject: Re: NEW RELATION - resourcesync (resubmission) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:27:52 -0000 hello herbert. On 2014-01-11, 10:13 , Herbert van de Sompel wrote: > Relation Name: resourcesync > > Description: The Target IRI points to a resource that provides > information about resource synchronization options. > > Reference: http://www.openarchives.org/rs/resourcesync > > Notes: The specification is in the process of being standardized as > ANSI/NISO z39-99. It is currently openly available from the OAI site. > Once it achieves the status of ANSI/NISO standard, it will be openly > available on both the OAI and the NISO web sites. this may be a bit broader then the specific relation and protocol defining it, but i'll go ahead and ask anyway: PuSH is a protocol that's not standards track and has changed a fair bit in its recent versions. but it has similar ideas of providing places where streams of potential sync records can be obtained, and the "hub" relation for example then links to a push-based delivery point. is there any relationship between these proposals? maybe they can share link relations or other architectural bits. i was just wondering if there has been some attempts to align these protocols, if they have been compared, and if that might influence the choice of link relations. thanks and cheers, dret. -- erik wilde | mailto:dret@berkeley.edu - tel:+1-510-2061079 | | UC Berkeley - School of Information (ISchool) | | http://dret.net/netdret http://twitter.com/dret | From jan.algermissen@nordsc.com Sat Jan 11 01:35:44 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A0A1A1F5D for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:35:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hQhofU_kglMi for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80531A1F56 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.103] (p548FAD76.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.143.173.118]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lowim-1VPXtO3zJU-00eqoN; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:35:31 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) Subject: Re: NEW RELATION - resourcesync (resubmission) From: Jan Algermissen In-Reply-To: <52D10E88.40508@berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:35:29 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <13927AF5-1263-4832-8898-78CEBF6DE961@nordsc.com> References: <52D10E88.40508@berkeley.edu> To: Erik Wilde X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:rxVVuacMN2TkM2QlVwpsB3/3OLpdjK8cDDB6dDUBLxL Y/L5mEeza1dYtDxvoSP9uhYDQ9rbBTY8wGYtT64kWn70VEhSAd 84Iptnx0RVX0Bh9Ud5fTQvUHMUatRaFl7+kOLUQ9gWGkLwliml h4t3aIGo6KZHogCwqg7WmTb+6KKrY7cAykrtE4e68wN8aWn8sX I7clMPswKwYb4KSIXGvDPg4a9KuoAP4TCerx/hCyK518BFWzy2 QLvcsFHTuNWiD5ko+XMl1D2eg/feXqIe/9NIzPHx7uw9aW6AJ7 bypHbbvAiFXxh1MfY9klC8ST6YKp9AR9LVn0YvToGW9Y/rzyuw ixKxHWuE7i4nsOgVje7OfvuMZnUAAwwEesrmZTHJfYXNxxBaH/ +OptbiEOvr+Ow== Cc: link-relations@ietf.org X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:35:44 -0000 On 11.01.2014, at 10:27, Erik Wilde wrote: > PuSH gota reference? From dret@berkeley.edu Sat Jan 11 01:39:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743651ADED9 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:39:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.738 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.738 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.538] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GWXnDIDskABl for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from cm06fe.IST.Berkeley.EDU (cm06fe.IST.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.218.147]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DFD1A1F5D for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from 46-126-158-51.dynamic.hispeed.ch ([46.126.158.51] helo=dretpro.local) by cm06fe.ist.berkeley.edu with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (auth plain:dret@berkeley.edu) (envelope-from ) id 1W1v2M-0001lL-M1; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 01:39:28 -0800 Message-ID: <52D1114B.30704@berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:39:23 +0100 From: Erik Wilde User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Algermissen Subject: Re: NEW RELATION - resourcesync (resubmission) References: <52D10E88.40508@berkeley.edu> <13927AF5-1263-4832-8898-78CEBF6DE961@nordsc.com> In-Reply-To: <13927AF5-1263-4832-8898-78CEBF6DE961@nordsc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: link-relations@ietf.org X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 09:39:40 -0000 On 2014-01-11, 10:35 , Jan Algermissen wrote: > On 11.01.2014, at 10:27, Erik Wilde wrote: >> PuSH > gota reference? sorry. http://code.google.com/p/pubsubhubbub/ -- erik wilde | mailto:dret@berkeley.edu - tel:+1-510-2061079 | | UC Berkeley - School of Information (ISchool) | | http://dret.net/netdret http://twitter.com/dret | From hvdsomp@gmail.com Sat Jan 11 02:24:39 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50FE1ACC81 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:24:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iK0FNAXJhjm8 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com (mail-wi0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35101A1F4C for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:24:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hq4so532015wib.2 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:24:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QCjB53dZGdfrAYq6ANtoMx4E3ZIAKtIJepPWddBiGEQ=; b=auUoYkn/X+xUWJBBuHSA9rPYL0he4mmQJ3RGGhILnUHgY48SlKAI6HuHe9eOutQGnf ausJK+nuxE88slleZ5fpNbn5QUY48YGA86wkSrdPbzqIh2dgmjPaFE/f8CSc4QTOfsX7 8bHD/1fU7aFmQ4W+JxND2wZ9Tv/coJvoLtMRdytMmpilT1zDvhRekMy3SFpnnTEajD6W YPHnY5yAjtiJlvpTYppTvRmv+cXMCb9H8EbkeLMrZQRpCdMalL0IX7P0qmn9D+sfCUP+ e9ZxxK6KtNqP9DPC+aTRt83Hlm4BMeamVtz7IpX8JROhKBqJQpsmf+PTMtCWm0vS2ZAX u2+A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.176.163 with SMTP id cj3mr12891703wjc.8.1389435867107; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.172.73 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 02:24:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52D10E88.40508@berkeley.edu> References: <52D10E88.40508@berkeley.edu> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 03:24:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NEW RELATION - resourcesync (resubmission) From: Herbert van de Sompel To: Erik Wilde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: link-relations X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 10:24:40 -0000 Hi Erik PuSH is at the basis of the Notification part of ResourceSync, see http://www.openarchives.org/rs/notification The "core" ResourceSync spec is all about pull-based sync, see http://www.openarchives.org/rs/resourcesync Greetings Herbert On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Erik Wilde wrote: > hello herbert. > > > On 2014-01-11, 10:13 , Herbert van de Sompel wrote: >> >> Relation Name: resourcesync >> >> Description: The Target IRI points to a resource that provides >> information about resource synchronization options. >> >> Reference: http://www.openarchives.org/rs/resourcesync >> >> Notes: The specification is in the process of being standardized as >> ANSI/NISO z39-99. It is currently openly available from the OAI site. >> Once it achieves the status of ANSI/NISO standard, it will be openly >> available on both the OAI and the NISO web sites. > > > this may be a bit broader then the specific relation and protocol defining > it, but i'll go ahead and ask anyway: PuSH is a protocol that's not > standards track and has changed a fair bit in its recent versions. but it > has similar ideas of providing places where streams of potential sync > records can be obtained, and the "hub" relation for example then links to a > push-based delivery point. is there any relationship between these > proposals? maybe they can share link relations or other architectural bits. > i was just wondering if there has been some attempts to align these > protocols, if they have been compared, and if that might influence the > choice of link relations. > > thanks and cheers, > > dret. > > -- > erik wilde | mailto:dret@berkeley.edu - tel:+1-510-2061079 | > | UC Berkeley - School of Information (ISchool) | > | http://dret.net/netdret http://twitter.com/dret | -- Herbert Van de Sompel Digital Library Research & Prototyping Los Alamos National Laboratory, Research Library http://public.lanl.gov/herbertv/ == From jan.algermissen@nordsc.com Sun Jan 12 11:07:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68B21AE013 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:07:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0pTObqSevrDd for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186CC1AE012 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.103] (p548F9BDD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.143.155.221]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Liq3V-1VWfO31brh-00dC3h; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 20:06:50 +0100 From: Jan Algermissen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Clarification of 'index' Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 20:06:49 +0100 To: "link-relations@ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:JD3H4YWOXZipaeJVhGjlt2QomrGo+y2PEmjInqgK39/ WiKdJyDbKz7TEXtr5qt48jxP1Ck/+v2PzPxNJ52rpML/E5JhX/ 9KcWOwT3H180scCBXebLL7BylPHNKz9BBRYTVKMGL0YphsTF4q cz63OOGrNwsF9bhYIgtjJ8BtHO7QcB/ZGCXLp9tyb3SQu39w6M exC0LU4hTSwu3XyT7IkbTM3VxM6qKgYySNHumwUJoYAZ1nFlNK djoCFwIq6wn1Azy4aRtchZhwPkJBmauUpicC25MoxKxGfkX9IG Ftmc8Xymw8PFAeIjieIcc5K1kWPSvjGILj/n/qQCU5yxqwrcFc k4fJhKjY/f9FZyisfm1GDMalGo+nITBWrTOygM3/JtYV9NEDgM 8bYVUNY9eUo4A== X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:07:03 -0000 Hi, does anyone know whether the 'index' link relation is meant to point to = "an index of the context resource" or an "index in which the context = resource is referred to"? http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml 'index' : = http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/types.html#type-links Jan= From hvdsomp@gmail.com Sun Jan 12 11:26:08 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8D651AE021 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:26:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UUdTn-pFHskT for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ea0-x22e.google.com (mail-ea0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C0C1AE013 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ea0-f174.google.com with SMTP id b10so2935948eae.33 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:25:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=5wtpiPmMfERtGWRD5q+5rlq6+TEtkA1wGkUtqWC3uwo=; b=wCk3+8TYkOXBGocjo9oesfOaT/AOBp2PmxtNJZibCpKl7t8x/gSIjX+YO8HbyUyleK nTXhg/GRLDZyJ8k1ntE1yFl67Veqmm00ehGSa2xA1VDpKHPdidbcYhbSNy/Frc2ZlymE RhadZlehif/dpqCrgAm24fMUmFsY7R4EW7UVYSa6VrssPZVpk0CWev/SGeQGLXMEVilh TgSLoTwAIfBrhg4mflPtyflivRortwe2/6LBIhQXal0K9gmdyGOweb8JBDbEoYtoR6Wj fZDxdfZzUfYqNuQqOiIw1bUlMHcbZvQpkTyQOHb9AeHYoYm0jLqfTM9uK1gJhvOChWcT JWLQ== X-Received: by 10.15.26.200 with SMTP id n48mr23227989eeu.46.1389554755743; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.178.35] (5ED28DE0.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl. [94.210.141.224]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p45sm33445637eeg.1.2014.01.12.11.25.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:25:55 -0800 (PST) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10A523) From: Herbert Van de Sompel Subject: Re: Clarification of 'index' Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:25:53 -0700 To: Jan Algermissen Cc: "link-relations@ietf.org" X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:26:08 -0000 On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:06, Jan Algermissen wrot= e: > Hi, >=20 > does anyone know whether the 'index' link relation is meant to point to "a= n index of the context resource" or an "index in which the context resource i= s referred to"? >=20 Our interpretation in ResourceSync is definitely the latter. Honestly, it ha= d not occurred to me that there could be a different interpretation. But, lo= oking at the description of the rel type now, I can see that it's open to ot= her interpretations. Cheers Herbert >=20 > http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xhtml > 'index' : http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/types.html#type-l= inks >=20 > Jan > _______________________________________________ > link-relations mailing list > link-relations@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations