From nobody Sun Oct 28 17:00:07 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21911130DD5 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 16:59:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=csiro.au Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z6zWUt2ylRHQ for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 16:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vic-MTAout5.csiro.au (vic-mtaout5.csiro.au [IPv6:2405:b000:b00:220::64:42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AD93130DC8 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2018 16:59:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=csiro.au; i=@csiro.au; q=dns/txt; s=dkim; t=1540771195; x=1572307195; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=S/BbsF+sJMxlhAggPybP/6ZjtEszS0cIZXT7Vzb8d/o=; b=hz6dy/Zu5zE42BknWP8SKhYCxQvxRkxrqNoAFEJjPXJxeVNxYgKUwVgm ZOU4+paxO1arb0f3+oF/8X3N7u0OJcjAcmAmcY6wf0iYNjj1uVaJfRLcv 97SbtPKY0MwKd53ug8PTvCBnigKLLb+Ah5ve7V1uiX3bZ4M4Sl1qhxKHh M=; X-SBRS: 4.0 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A+EkCAARTdZbjACwBSSYiIBxAISUgiNjH?= =?us-ascii?q?gEGBwaBZYEOIwEpgRB/KIc/kGQ7CpY4gkSBKxckDSMJAoECghSBKAKDGSE4FgE?= =?us-ascii?q?DAQECAQECAgIQAQEBJkwMgmYENxQ7AwEBAQEBAQEBASMBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBGgIIBR4HAREDXUUZAUc5FAsHAQQTCIMZAYEdZQ6oA4NxOwEDBYVeikqBHYE?= =?us-ascii?q?PgQiHPgICgSMJARECAVSFJQKIX0aFJRWQKgcChmqKEiCBUkyEK4l+jEUrgi5Qg?= =?us-ascii?q?3IBgzuBMycgZnFsg0AJFoIVgQYBAoECgUAGhFk7hT5vAYEni3sBAQ?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A+EkCAARTdZbjACwBSSYiIBxAISUgiNjHgEGBwaBZYEOIwE?= =?us-ascii?q?pgRB/KIc/kGQ7CpY4gkSBKxckDSMJAoECghSBKAKDGSE4FgEDAQECAQECAgIQA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBJkwMgmYENxQ7AwEBAQEBAQEBASMBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBGgIIBR4HARE?= =?us-ascii?q?DXUUZAUc5FAsHAQQTCIMZAYEdZQ6oA4NxOwEDBYVeikqBHYEPgQiHPgICgSMJA?= =?us-ascii?q?RECAVSFJQKIX0aFJRWQKgcChmqKEiCBUkyEK4l+jEUrgi5Qg3IBgzuBMycgZnF?= =?us-ascii?q?sg0AJFoIVgQYBAoECgUAGhFk7hT5vAYEni3sBAQ?= Received: from exch3-mel.nexus.csiro.au ([IPv6:2405:b000:302:71::85:123]) by vic-ironport-int.csiro.au with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 29 Oct 2018 10:59:24 +1100 Received: from exch1-mel.nexus.csiro.au (2405:b000:302:71::85:121) by exch3-mel.nexus.csiro.au (2405:b000:302:71::85:123) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:59:23 +1100 Received: from exch1-mel.nexus.csiro.au ([fe80::fd1e:dedf:85fa:b8fa]) by exch1-mel.nexus.csiro.au ([fe80::fd1e:dedf:85fa:b8fa%19]) with mapi id 15.00.1395.000; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:59:23 +1100 From: To: Subject: 'about' and 'describes' appear to have significant overlap Thread-Topic: 'about' and 'describes' appear to have significant overlap Thread-Index: AdRvF88HMkYfTB2UTa6lSuASG4cESQ== Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 23:59:23 +0000 Message-ID: <1dc9817c61094a889ef7d9dd247f56a8@exch1-mel.nexus.csiro.au> Accept-Language: en-AU, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [2405:b000:302:170::96:4] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1dc9817c61094a889ef7d9dd247f56a8exch1melnexuscsiroau_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 00:00:03 -0000 --_000_1dc9817c61094a889ef7d9dd247f56a8exch1melnexuscsiroau_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The relations 'about' and 'describes' appear to have significant overlap. I've looked at both RFCs but neither mentions the other. Is there a succinct explanation of the difference? Simon J D Cox Research Scientist - Environmental Informatics Team Leader - Environmental Information Infrastructure CSIRO Land and Water E simon.cox@csiro.au T +61 3 9545 2365 M +61 403= 302 672 Mail: Private Bag 10, Clayton South, Vic 3169 Visit: Central Reception, Research Way, Clayton, Vic 3168 ///honey.zebr= a.chip Deliver: Gate 3, Normanby Road, Clayton, Vic 3168 people.csiro.au/Simon-Cox orcid.org/0000-0002-3884-3420 researchgate.net/profile/Simon_Cox3 github.com/dr-shorthair lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/agents/Simon%20Cox Twitter @dr_shorthair Skype dr_shorthair https://xkcd.com/1810/ PLEASE NOTE The information contained in this email may be confidential or privileged. = Any unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this= email in error, please delete it immediately and notify the sender by retu= rn email. Thank you. 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The relations 'about' and 'describes' appear to have= significant overlap.

I’ve looked at both RFCs but neither mentions = the other.

Is there a succinct explanation of the difference? <= o:p>

 

Simon J D Cox

Research Scientist - Envi= ronmental Informatics

Team Leader – Environmental Information Infrastru= cture

CSIRO Land and Water

 

E simon.cox@csiro.au T +61 3 9545 2365 M +61 403 302 672

   Mail:= Pri= vate Bag 10, Clayton South, Vic 3169

   Visit: Central Reception, Research Way, Clayton, Vic 3168  ///honey.zebra.chip

   Deliver: Gate 3, Normanby Road, Clayton, Vic 3168

people.csiro.au/Simon-Cox

orcid.org/0000-0002-3884-3420

researchgate.net/profile/Simon_Cox3<= /a>

github.com/dr-shorthair

lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/agents/Simon= %20Cox

Twitter = @dr_shorthair

Skype dr_shorthair

https://xkcd.com/1810/

 

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([2601:8c3:8080:3713:7199:6683:e759:95c0]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c135-v6sm6426034oib.2.2018.10.28.18.30.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Oct 2018 18:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9E8686D0-DC96-4359-80CE-90401D576326 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: 'about' and 'describes' appear to have significant overlap From: Herbert Van de Sompel X-Mailer: iPad Mail (15F79) In-Reply-To: <1dc9817c61094a889ef7d9dd247f56a8@exch1-mel.nexus.csiro.au> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 19:30:18 -0600 Cc: link-relations@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <64CCA846-C355-47A4-86FC-B66A8F1192D0@gmail.com> References: <1dc9817c61094a889ef7d9dd247f56a8@exch1-mel.nexus.csiro.au> To: Simon.Cox@csiro.au Archived-At: X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 01:30:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail-9E8686D0-DC96-4359-80CE-90401D576326 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Oct 28, 2018, at 17:59, wrote: >=20 > The relations 'about' and 'describes' appear to have significant overlap. > I=E2=80=99ve looked at both RFCs but neither mentions the other. > Is there a succinct explanation of the difference? > =20 Clear overlap, indeed. With Signposting, we promote the use of =E2=80=9Cdesc= ribes=E2=80=9D. See http://signposting.org/ Cheers Herbert > Simon J D Cox > Research Scientist - Environmental Informatics > Team Leader =E2=80=93 Environmental Information Infrastructure > CSIRO Land and Water > =20 > E simon.cox@csiro.au T +61 3 9545 2365 M +61 403 302 672 > Mail: Private Bag 10, Clayton South, Vic 3169 > Visit: Central Reception, Research Way, Clayton, Vic 3168 ///honey.zeb= ra.chip > Deliver: Gate 3, Normanby Road, Clayton, Vic 3168 > people.csiro.au/Simon-Cox > orcid.org/0000-0002-3884-3420 > researchgate.net/profile/Simon_Cox3 > github.com/dr-shorthair > lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/agents/Simon%20Cox > Twitter @dr_shorthair > Skype dr_shorthair > https://xkcd.com/1810/ > =20 > PLEASE NOTE > The information contained in this email may be confidential or privileged.= Any unauthorised use or disclosure is prohibited. If you have received this= email in error, please delete it immediately and notify the sender by retur= n email. Thank you. To the extent permitted by law, CSIRO does not represent= , warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been= maintained or that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception= or interference. > =20 > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > =20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > link-relations mailing list > link-relations@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/link-relations --Apple-Mail-9E8686D0-DC96-4359-80CE-90401D576326 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Oct 28, 2018, at 17:59, &= lt;Simon.Cox@csiro.au> <Simon.Cox@csiro.au> wrote:

=

The relations 'about' and 'describes' appear to have s= ignificant overlap.

I=E2=80=99ve looked at both RFCs but neither mentions= the other.

Is there a succinct explanation of the difference?

 

Clear overlap, indeed. With Signposting, we promote the use of =E2= =80=9Cdescribes=E2=80=9D. See http:= //signposting.org/

Cheers

<= div>Herbert

Simon J D Cox

Research Scientist - Envir= onmental Informatics

Team Leader =E2=80=93 Environmental Information Infrastru= cture

CSIRO Land and Water

 

E simon.cox@csiro.au T +61 3 9545 2365 M +61 403 302 672

   Mail:<= /span> Priva= te Bag 10, Clayton South, Vic 3169

   Visit: Central Reception, Research Way, Clayton, Vic 3168  ///honey.zebra.chip

   Deliver: Gate 3, Normanby Road, Clayton, Vic 3168

people.csiro.au/Simon-Cox

orcid.org/0000-0002-3884-3420

researchgate.net/profile/Simon_Cox3=

github.com/dr-shorthair

lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/agents/Simon%20= Cox

Twitter @= dr_shorthair

Skype dr_shorthair

https://xkcd.com/1810/

 

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= --Apple-Mail-9E8686D0-DC96-4359-80CE-90401D576326-- From nobody Mon Oct 29 00:56:01 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA78B130DC2 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 00:55:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=neutral reason="invalid (public key: not available)" header.d=dret.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hSC2anu93Ajz for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 00:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postoffice.gristmillmedia.com (dret.net [209.188.86.86]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7E3312D4EC for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 00:55:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dret.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=00ky6KNBGcMJL6KWxB1yWQSZMDlYq6Uu7wClec4G3qc=; b=zSsdQTe8spmICSBH1fLDBGQUSc KZSuaCTZ8OnJKI4PvHZKD71qWHYmS/bScd74gACXMAB6iQ+z7rXiK2pgxKfxUgAbP2d66esHTseLE zUu8ZtvqAeULaNaGAr2zImh8gEdLDnud3rfkG918RfFaJ295EnNTOTNYE30q0HZsaTC55A02Ju/Ol xRnPsfkEXJL3Xe2+faK340+9eGwh4BUq4cVCIlwQT1rl4Y8MjBWFmh64l+FwNYwbXErDVJuFU1X+G R2XvwC5QA9ErnK51a7OXNkuM6wTVyhjxF35CxWAmCioo3TdW9K6RWIuJP1Va4TJujioJh8ytpT3PU mvZ1md5g==; Received: from [109.144.219.110] (port=47493 helo=dretbook.local) by postoffice.gristmillmedia.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1gH2Oy-0004AG-9s; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 03:55:56 -0400 Subject: Re: 'about' and 'describes' appear to have significant overlap To: Simon.Cox@csiro.au, link-relations@ietf.org References: <1dc9817c61094a889ef7d9dd247f56a8@exch1-mel.nexus.csiro.au> From: Erik Wilde Message-ID: <572f87dc-41f1-717e-94cf-846b197fee6e@dret.net> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 07:55:55 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1dc9817c61094a889ef7d9dd247f56a8@exch1-mel.nexus.csiro.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - postoffice.gristmillmedia.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dret.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: postoffice.gristmillmedia.com: authenticated_id: birdhouse@dret.net X-Authenticated-Sender: postoffice.gristmillmedia.com: birdhouse@dret.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Archived-At: X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 07:56:00 -0000 hello simon. On 2018-10-28 23:59, Simon.Cox@csiro.au wrote: > The relations 'about' and 'describes' appear to have significant overlap. > I’ve looked at both RFCs but neither mentions the other. > Is there a succinct explanation of the difference? like many link relations, 'about' and 'describes' are fuzzy in their scope and definition. 'describes' in particular is probably so generic that you can use it for pretty much anything. i would find it surprising if there was any possible succinct explanation of the difference. personally, i think that link relations almost always depend on the context they're used in. in one API you might find something exposed as 'about' links, which in a different API is exposed as 'describes' links. you have to know the context (the APIs) to understand what they expose, and how they do it. cheers, dret. -- erik wilde | mailto:erik.wilde@dret.net | | http://dret.net/netdret | | http://twitter.com/dret | From nobody Mon Oct 29 04:14:43 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: link-relations@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36CF8130E91 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 04:14:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=csiro.au Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Us-4eLcQxl10 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 04:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from act-MTAout1.csiro.au (act-mtaout1.csiro.au [IPv6:2405:b000:e00:257::7:37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7B9E130E90 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 04:14:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=csiro.au; i=@csiro.au; q=dns/txt; s=dkim; t=1540811679; x=1572347679; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=ZRqXK9y9gx5SG2MOIt0FKQXEINMFbnPF2EEzeuPXul8=; b=Tcwb4RwIy2MxWIyw/JLypjwCsBUPzNFe0j4MFl/YItc3SQI9MkldDja6 9l0IrXY4aV6orc5jkiBZEbFFUycKt5ne+sKkjNsGM8oolmEnbRoepSIua jWpOIDZdndELdNnpdt3AoAKcIvaEZa3r+o2iB5lwAaKN6WIG8eQ9WLyzw k=; X-SBRS: 4.0 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A+EsJAD76tZbjACwBSSYiIBxAISUgiJkH?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBBQEHBQGBZYEOASIBgjiYTJsnDSyDGIRTITgWAQMBAQIBAQICAhABAQEmWIU?= =?us-ascii?q?ygRsBCwECch8IBAEagxmBHmWoSx+JdItngheOfAKOSpA/BwKQfCCQR5ccgVogg?= =?us-ascii?q?Vdsg0GCM44jgheLfQEB?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A+EsJAD76tZbjACwBSSYiIBxAISUgiJkHQEBBQEHBQGBZYE?= =?us-ascii?q?OASIBgjiYTJsnDSyDGIRTITgWAQMBAQIBAQICAhABAQEmWIUygRsBCwECch8IB?= =?us-ascii?q?AEagxmBHmWoSx+JdItngheOfAKOSpA/BwKQfCCQR5ccgVoggVdsg0GCM44jghe?= =?us-ascii?q?LfQEB?= Received: from exch2-mel.nexus.csiro.au ([IPv6:2405:b000:302:71::85:122]) by act-ironport-int.csiro.au with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 29 Oct 2018 22:14:35 +1100 Received: from exch1-mel.nexus.csiro.au (2405:b000:302:71::85:121) by exch2-mel.nexus.csiro.au (2405:b000:302:71::85:122) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:14:35 +1100 Received: from exch1-mel.nexus.csiro.au ([fe80::fd1e:dedf:85fa:b8fa]) by exch1-mel.nexus.csiro.au ([fe80::fd1e:dedf:85fa:b8fa%19]) with mapi id 15.00.1395.000; Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:14:35 +1100 From: To: , Subject: 'about' and 'describes' appear to have significant overlap Thread-Topic: 'about' and 'describes' appear to have significant overlap Thread-Index: AQHUb3iS4afDGyp0PkS3t1/zls518g== Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:14:35 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-AU, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [2405:b000:601:170::2:4] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_b9110c640f2c403a8e5e787e68a23cdcexch1melnexuscsiroau_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: X-BeenThere: link-relations@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:14:42 -0000 --_000_b9110c640f2c403a8e5e787e68a23cdcexch1melnexuscsiroau_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The context I'm thinking of is landing pages, e.g. DOI and Datacite. So Her= bert's pointer to the signposting practices is very relevant. --_000_b9110c640f2c403a8e5e787e68a23cdcexch1melnexuscsiroau_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The context I'm thinking of is landing pa= ges, e.g. DOI and Datacite. So Herbert's pointer to the signposting practic= es is very relevant.

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