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<9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA4505F@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.64.58.47] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA4505FAZFFEXMB04globa_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [lmap] IETF 93 - draft agenda for the LMAP WG meeting X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 16:48:03 -0000 --_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA4505FAZFFEXMB04globa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I posted a preliminary agenda for the LMAP WG meeting at IETF 93 at https:/= /www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/agenda/agenda-93-lmap. I included the informat= ion model, YANG data model and a slot for the protocol work which hopefully= will make progress until the meeting. Other contributions are welcome and= we'll do our best to accommodate all requests, but work on chartered items= has priority. Thanks and Regards, Dan --_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA4505FAZFFEXMB04globa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

I posted a preliminary agenda for the LMAP WG meetin= g at IETF 93 at https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/agenda/agenda-93-lmap. = I included the information model, YANG data model and a slot for the protoc= ol work which hopefully will make progress until the meeting. Other  contributions are welcome and we&#= 8217;ll do our best to accommodate all requests, but work on chartered item= s has priority.

 

Thanks and Regards,

 

Dan

 

--_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA4505FAZFFEXMB04globa_-- From nobody Wed Jun 3 10:02:58 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C99B1A9237 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 10:02:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.909 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e-Uiy59D7Heh for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 10:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com (p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A85B1AC446 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 10:02:55 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AksFAJsyb1WHCzIm/2dsb2JhbABbgkUhKlRkrEwBAQEGBZNdhXUCgUJMAQEBAQEBgQuEJAEBAxIbXgEMCRVWJgEEGxqICwEMqBCFCa5AAQoBAQEaBIYZiX8tgyKBFgWTFIxNg3OCdI8vJGGDF4I1gQEBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,547,1427774400"; d="scan'208,217";a="123429541" Received: from unknown (HELO p-us1-erheast-smtpauth.us1.avaya.com) ([135.11.50.38]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 03 Jun 2015 13:02:41 -0400 X-OutboundMail_SMTP: 1 Received: from unknown (HELO AZ-FFEXHC04.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.58.14]) by p-us1-erheast-out.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 03 Jun 2015 13:02:41 -0400 Received: from AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com ([fe80::6db7:b0af:8480:c126]) by AZ-FFEXHC04.global.avaya.com ([135.64.58.14]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 19:02:39 +0200 From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "lmap@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft minutes of the 5-11-15 LMAP WG Virtual Interim Meeting Thread-Index: AdCeHxcJiD+naDnnRLSNwkWnBJCotQ== Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 17:02:39 +0000 Message-ID: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA45097@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.64.58.47] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA45097AZFFEXMB04globa_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [lmap] draft minutes of the 5-11-15 LMAP WG Virtual Interim Meeting X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 17:02:58 -0000 --_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA45097AZFFEXMB04globa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I uploaded the draft minutes of the 5-11-15 LMAP WG Virtual Interim Meeting= at https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2015/05/11/lmap/minutes/minute= s-interim-2015-lmap-2/ based on the etherpad notes . If anything important was missed or misrepresented - please let me know. Thanks and Regards, Dan --_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA45097AZFFEXMB04globa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

I uploaded the draft minutes of the 5-11-15 LMAP WG = Virtual Interim Meeting at https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2015/05/11/lmap/minutes/minutes-in= terim-2015-lmap-2/ based on the etherpad notes .

 

If anything important was missed or misrepresented &= #8211; please let me know.

 

Thanks and Regards,

 

Dan

 

--_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA45097AZFFEXMB04globa_-- From nobody Wed Jun 3 10:49:08 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C6B1A9236 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 10:49:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.92 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.92 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=1.989, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zLeMtu9489Fg for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 10:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25A251AC3F7 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 10:49:04 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjYFADg9b1XGmAcV/2dsb2JhbABbgkUhKlReBoUhpysBAQEGk1+FeAKBREwBAQEBAQGBC4QiAQEBAQMSG1wCAQgNBAQBAQsdBzIUCQgBAQQTCBqICwEMrHquQAEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARMEhhmFKoRVLQoBgxeBFgWTFIQ5iBSDc4J0jy8kYXyCG28BAYFEgQEBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,548,1427774400"; d="scan'208,217";a="119193608" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest-exch.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.21]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 03 Jun 2015 13:49:03 -0400 X-OutboundMail_SMTP: 1 Received: from unknown (HELO AZ-FFEXHC02.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.58.12]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 03 Jun 2015 13:49:02 -0400 Received: from AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com ([fe80::6db7:b0af:8480:c126]) by AZ-FFEXHC02.global.avaya.com ([135.64.58.12]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 19:49:01 +0200 From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "lmap@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft minutes of the 5-11-15 LMAP WG Virtual Interim Meeting Thread-Index: AdCeHxcJiD+naDnnRLSNwkWnBJCotQABjoIw Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 17:49:01 +0000 Message-ID: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA4514B@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> References: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA45097@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA45097@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.64.58.47] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA4514BAZFFEXMB04globa_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [lmap] draft minutes of the 5-11-15 LMAP WG Virtual Interim Meeting X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 17:49:06 -0000 --_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA4514BAZFFEXMB04globa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please try https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2015/05/11/lmap/minutes= /minutes-interim-2015-lmap-2 instead. Sorry for the disturbing extra-slash and thanks to Al Morton for letting me= know. Regards, Dan From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 8:03 PM To: lmap@ietf.org Subject: [lmap] draft minutes of the 5-11-15 LMAP WG Virtual Interim Meetin= g I uploaded the draft minutes of the 5-11-15 LMAP WG Virtual Interim Meeting= at https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2015/05/11/lmap/minutes/minute= s-interim-2015-lmap-2/ based on the et= herpad notes . If anything important was missed or misrepresented - please let me know. Thanks and Regards, Dan --_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA4514BAZFFEXMB04globa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Please try https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2015/05/11/lmap/minutes/minutes-in= terim-2015-lmap-2 instead.

 

Sorry for the disturbi= ng extra-slash and thanks to Al Morton for letting me know.

 

Regards,

 

Dan<= /p>

 

 

 

 

From: lmap [ma= ilto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 8:03 PM
To: lmap@ietf.org
Subject: [lmap] draft minutes of the 5-11-15 LMAP WG Virtual Interim= Meeting

 

 

I uploaded the draft minutes of the 5-11-15 LMAP WG = Virtual Interim Meeting at https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/interim/2015/05/11/lmap/minutes/minutes-in= terim-2015-lmap-2/ based on the etherpad notes .

 

If anything important was missed or misrepresented &= #8211; please let me know.

 

Thanks and Regards,

 

Dan

 

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, At the 5/11 virtual interim meeting we called for the participants in the W= G to express on the mail list their opinions concerning the protocol submis= sions. This was supposed to happen for the rest of the month of May allowin= g the chairs to issue a proposal to be confirmed by the WG. The relevant excerpts from the draft minutes are: DR: Please take a look at the protocol proposals and let us know on the lis= t if anything is missing. DR: I would like to have a discussion and decision in about a months on the= protocols. DR: Lets discuss during the rest of May and beginning of June the chairs wi= ll try to draw conclusions. JW: We need to have enough people participating in the discussion. PE: I like to state that it is required to work from behind a NAT. JW (Chair hat off) Agree and add IPv6 Firewall case as well ... * Next Steps - Discuss the protocol aspects and the chairs will draw conclusions beginni= ng on June ----- However, there were no opinions expressed or discussions on the mail list. I suggest that all participants in the WG express their opinions about the = two proposals currently on record: - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf/ - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/ The protocol selection criteria are described at - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/ Please state your position about which of the two is best suited to be used= as MTI control protocol and MTI report protocol before Friday 6/12. The chairs will state their recommendation shortly after. Thanks and Regards, Dan --_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA462A1AZFFEXMB04globa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

At the 5/11 virtual interim meeting we called for th= e participants in the WG to express on the mail list their opinions concern= ing the protocol submissions. This was supposed to happen for the rest of t= he month of May allowing the chairs to issue a proposal to be confirmed by the WG.

 

The relevant excerpts from the draft minutes are:

 

DR: Please take a look at the protocol proposa= ls and let us know on the list if anything is missing.

DR: I would like to have a discussion and deci= sion in about a months on the protocols.

DR: Lets discuss during the rest of May and be= ginning of June the chairs will try to draw conclusions.<= /p>

JW: We need to have enough people participatin= g in the discussion.

PE: I like to state that it is required to wor= k from behind a NAT.

JW (Chair hat off) Agree and add IPv6 Firewall= case as well

 

…<= /p>

  

* Next Steps
 
- Discuss the protocol aspects and the cha=
irs will draw conclusions beginning on June

 

-----

 

However, there were= no opinions expressed or discussions on the mail list.

 

I suggest that all = participants in the WG express their opinions about the two proposals curre= ntly on record:

 

-     &= nbsp;    http://datatracker.ietf.or= g/doc/draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf/

-     &= nbsp;    http://datatracker.ietf.or= g/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/

 

The protocol selection criteria are described at

 

-     &= nbsp;    http://datatracker.ietf.or= g/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/

 

Please state your position about which of the two is= best suited to be used as MTI control protocol and MTI report protocol bef= ore Friday 6/12.

 

The chairs will state their recommendation shortly a= fter.

 

Thanks and Regards,

 

Dan

 

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having gone through both protocol drafts and draft-schoenw-lmap-yang, I pre= fer draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf (and draft-schoenw-lmap-yang). I much prefer the brevity of draft-schoenw-lmap-yang with pointers to ietf-= netconf-restconf, ietf-netconf-call-home, ietf-netconf-server-model and var= ious RFCs for implementation details (but I am curious as to the timeline f= or publication of the referenced drafts, since they appear to be dependenci= es). By leveraging the netconf drafts, the solution is more complete and do= es not try to re-create work that has already been done. Because draft-liu-lmap-rest includes a YANG data model, I also looked at dr= aft-schoenw-lmap-yang to compare data models. draft-schoenw-lmap-yang is mo= re complete (including various enumerations and groupings, and descriptions= provided for all elements). Barbara From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:10 AM To: lmap@ietf.org Subject: [lmap] (no) protocol decision Hi, At the 5/11 virtual interim meeting we called for the participants in the W= G to express on the mail list their opinions concerning the protocol submis= sions. This was supposed to happen for the rest of the month of May allowin= g the chairs to issue a proposal to be confirmed by the WG. The relevant excerpts from the draft minutes are: DR: Please take a look at the protocol proposals and let us know on the lis= t if anything is missing. DR: I would like to have a discussion and decision in about a months on the= protocols. DR: Lets discuss during the rest of May and beginning of June the chairs wi= ll try to draw conclusions. JW: We need to have enough people participating in the discussion. PE: I like to state that it is required to work from behind a NAT. JW (Chair hat off) Agree and add IPv6 Firewall case as well ... * Next Steps - Discuss the protocol aspects and the chairs will draw conclusions beginni= ng on June ----- However, there were no opinions expressed or discussions on the mail list. I suggest that all participants in the WG express their opinions about the = two proposals currently on record: - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf/ - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/ The protocol selection criteria are described at - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/ Please state your position about which of the two is best suited to be used= as MTI control protocol and MTI report protocol before Friday 6/12. The chairs will state their recommendation shortly after. Thanks and Regards, Dan --_000_2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E611329D6692GAALPA1MSGUSRBF_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Having gone through both protocol drafts and draft-s= choenw-lmap-yang, I prefer draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf (and draft-schoenw-l= map-yang).

 

I much prefer the brevity of draft-schoenw-lmap-yang= with pointers to ietf-netconf-restconf, ietf-netconf-call-home, ietf-netco= nf-server-model and various RFCs for implementation details (but I am curio= us as to the timeline for publication of the referenced drafts, since they appear to be dependencies). By levera= ging the netconf drafts, the solution is more complete and does not try to = re-create work that has already been done.

 

Because draft-liu-lmap-rest includes a YANG data mod= el, I also looked at draft-schoenw-lmap-yang to compare data models. draft-= schoenw-lmap-yang is more complete (including various enumerations and grou= pings, and descriptions provided for all elements).

Barbara

 

From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:10 AM
To: lmap@ietf.org
Subject: [lmap] (no) protocol decision

 

Hi,

 

At the 5/11 virtual interim meeting we called for th= e participants in the WG to express on the mail list their opinions concern= ing the protocol submissions. This was supposed to happen for the rest of t= he month of May allowing the chairs to issue a proposal to be confirmed by the WG.

 

The relevant excerpts from the draft minutes are:

 

DR: Please take a look at the protocol proposa= ls and let us know on the list if anything is missing.

DR: I would like to have a discussion and deci= sion in about a months on the protocols.

DR: Lets discuss during the rest of May and be= ginning of June the chairs will try to draw conclusions.<= /p>

JW: We need to have enough people participatin= g in the discussion.

PE: I like to state that it is required to wor= k from behind a NAT.

JW (Chair hat off) Agree and add IPv6 Firewall= case as well

 

…<= /p>

  

* Next Steps
 
- Discuss the protocol aspects and the cha=
irs will draw conclusions beginning on June

 

-----

 

However, there were= no opinions expressed or discussions on the mail list.

 

I suggest that all = participants in the WG express their opinions about the two proposals curre= ntly on record:

 

-     &= nbsp;    http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schoenw-lmap-re= stconf/

-     &= nbsp;    http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/=

 

The protocol selection criteria are described at

 

-     &= nbsp;    http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/=

 

Please state your position about which of the two is= best suited to be used as MTI control protocol and MTI report protocol bef= ore Friday 6/12.

 

The chairs will state their recommendation shortly a= fter.

 

Thanks and Regards,

 

Dan

 

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I much prefer the brevity of draft-schoenw-lmap-yang with pointers to ietf-= netconf-restconf, ietf-netconf-call-home, ietf-netconf-server-model and var= ious RFCs for implementation details (but I am curious as to the timeline f= or publication of the referenced drafts, since they appear to be dependenci= es). By leveraging the netconf drafts, the solution is more complete and do= es not try to re-create work that has already been done. Because draft-liu-lmap-rest includes a YANG data model, I also looked at dr= aft-schoenw-lmap-yang to compare data models. draft-schoenw-lmap-yang is mo= re complete (including various enumerations and groupings, and descriptions= provided for all elements). Barbara From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:10 AM To: lmap@ietf.org Subject: [lmap] (no) protocol decision Hi, At the 5/11 virtual interim meeting we called for the participants in the W= G to express on the mail list their opinions concerning the protocol submis= sions. This was supposed to happen for the rest of the month of May allowin= g the chairs to issue a proposal to be confirmed by the WG. The relevant excerpts from the draft minutes are: DR: Please take a look at the protocol proposals and let us know on the lis= t if anything is missing. DR: I would like to have a discussion and decision in about a months on the= protocols. DR: Lets discuss during the rest of May and beginning of June the chairs wi= ll try to draw conclusions. JW: We need to have enough people participating in the discussion. PE: I like to state that it is required to work from behind a NAT. JW (Chair hat off) Agree and add IPv6 Firewall case as well ... * Next Steps - Discuss the protocol aspects and the chairs will draw conclusions beginni= ng on June ----- However, there were no opinions expressed or discussions on the mail list. I suggest that all participants in the WG express their opinions about the = two proposals currently on record: - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf/ - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/ The protocol selection criteria are described at - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/ Please state your position about which of the two is best suited to be used= as MTI control protocol and MTI report protocol before Friday 6/12. The chairs will state their recommendation shortly after. Thanks and Regards, Dan --_000_3a589c1bc6ad49419c8f0e335455caeerew09926dag03bdomain1sy_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This also works for me

 

phil

 

From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of STARK, BARBARA H
Sent: 04 June 2015 18:48
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); lmap@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [lmap] (no) protocol decision

 

Having gone through both protoc= ol drafts and draft-schoenw-lmap-yang, I prefer draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf= (and draft-schoenw-lmap-yang).

 

I much prefer the brevity of dr= aft-schoenw-lmap-yang with pointers to ietf-netconf-restconf, ietf-netconf-= call-home, ietf-netconf-server-model and various RFCs for implementation de= tails (but I am curious as to the timeline for publication of the referenced drafts, since they appear to be dependen= cies). By leveraging the netconf drafts, the solution is more complete and = does not try to re-create work that has already been done.

 

Because draft-liu-lmap-rest inc= ludes a YANG data model, I also looked at draft-schoenw-lmap-yang to compar= e data models. draft-schoenw-lmap-yang is more complete (including various = enumerations and groupings, and descriptions provided for all elements).

Barbara

&n= bsp;

From: lmap [mailto:lmap-boun= ces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:10 AM
To: lmap@ietf.org
Subject: [lmap] (no) protocol decision

 

Hi,

 

At the 5/11 virtual interim mee= ting we called for the participants in the WG to express on the mail list t= heir opinions concerning the protocol submissions. This was supposed to hap= pen for the rest of the month of May allowing the chairs to issue a proposal to be confirmed by the WG.

 

The relevant excerpts from the = draft minutes are:

 

DR: Please take a look at the p= rotocol proposals and let us know on the list if anything is missing.<= /o:p>

DR: I would like to have a disc= ussion and decision in about a months on the protocols.

DR: Lets discuss during the res= t of May and beginning of June the chairs will try to draw conclusions.

JW: We need to have enough peop= le participating in the discussion.

PE: I like to state that it is = required to work from behind a NAT.

JW (Chair hat off) Agree and ad= d IPv6 Firewall case as well

 

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* Next Steps
 

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However, there were no opinions expressed or discussions on the mail list=
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I suggest that all participants in the WG express their opinions about th=
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http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schoenw-lma=
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http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/<=
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The protocol selection criteria=
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http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/<=
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Thanks and Regards,<=
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Dan


 
--_000_3a589c1bc6ad49419c8f0e335455caeerew09926dag03bdomain1sy_-- From nobody Mon Jun 8 07:09:19 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488081A889D for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 07:09:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.664 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.664 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dbB38qPGCZWa for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 07:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hylle06.itea.ntnu.no (hylle06.itea.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:3::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D27FA1A888B for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 07:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hylle06.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BD6661E96 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 16:08:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hylle06.itea.ntnu.no Received: from [10.254.13.155] (unknown [158.38.2.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: arneos) by hylle06.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6DE6661E92 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 16:08:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5575A1EB.40509@uninett.no> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 16:08:43 +0200 From: Arne Oslebo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lmap@ietf.org References: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA462A1@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E611329D6692@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> In-Reply-To: <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E611329D6692@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [lmap] (no) protocol decision X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:09:18 -0000 I also prefer draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf and draft-schoenw-lmap-yang Arne On 04. juni 2015 19:48, STARK, BARBARA H wrote: > > Having gone through both protocol drafts and draft-schoenw-lmap-yang, > I prefer draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf (and draft-schoenw-lmap-yang). > > > > I much prefer the brevity of draft-schoenw-lmap-yang with pointers to > ietf-netconf-restconf, ietf-netconf-call-home, > ietf-netconf-server-model and various RFCs for implementation details > (but I am curious as to the timeline for publication of the referenced > drafts, since they appear to be dependencies). By leveraging the > netconf drafts, the solution is more complete and does not try to > re-create work that has already been done. > > > > Because draft-liu-lmap-rest includes a YANG data model, I also looked > at draft-schoenw-lmap-yang to compare data models. > draft-schoenw-lmap-yang is more complete (including various > enumerations and groupings, and descriptions provided for all elements). > > Barbara > > > > *From:* lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Romascanu, > Dan (Dan) > *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:10 AM > *To:* lmap@ietf.org > *Subject:* [lmap] (no) protocol decision > > > > Hi, > > > > At the 5/11 virtual interim meeting we called for the participants in > the WG to express on the mail list their opinions concerning the > protocol submissions. This was supposed to happen for the rest of the > month of May allowing the chairs to issue a proposal to be confirmed > by the WG. > > > > The relevant excerpts from the draft minutes are: > > > > DR: Please take a look at the protocol proposals and let us know on > the list if anything is missing. > > DR: I would like to have a discussion and decision in about a months > on the protocols. > > DR: Lets discuss during the rest of May and beginning of June the > chairs will try to draw conclusions. > > JW: We need to have enough people participating in the discussion. > > PE: I like to state that it is required to work from behind a NAT. > > JW (Chair hat off) Agree and add IPv6 Firewall case as well > > > > … > > > > * Next Steps > > - Discuss the protocol aspects and the chairs will draw conclusions beginning on June > > > > ----- > > > > However, there were no opinions expressed or discussions on the mail > list. > > > > I suggest that all participants in the WG express their opinions about > the two proposals currently on record: > > > > - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf/ > > - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/ > > > > The protocol selection criteria are described at > > > > - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/ > > > > Please state your position about which of the two is best suited to be > used as MTI control protocol and MTI report protocol before Friday 6/12. > > > > The chairs will state their recommendation shortly after. > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > Dan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lmap mailing list > lmap@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lmap From nobody Tue Jun 9 11:34:23 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F591B2E62 for ; 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By leveraging the > > netconf drafts, the solution is more complete and does not try to > > re-create work that has already been done. > > > > > > > > Because draft-liu-lmap-rest includes a YANG data model, I also looked > > at draft-schoenw-lmap-yang to compare data models. > > draft-schoenw-lmap-yang is more complete (including various > > enumerations and groupings, and descriptions provided for all > elements). > > > > Barbara > > > > > > > > *From:* lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Romascanu, > > Dan (Dan) > > *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2015 7:10 AM > > *To:* lmap@ietf.org > > *Subject:* [lmap] (no) protocol decision > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > At the 5/11 virtual interim meeting we called for the participants in > > the WG to express on the mail list their opinions concerning the > > protocol submissions. This was supposed to happen for the rest of the > > month of May allowing the chairs to issue a proposal to be confirmed > > by the WG. > > > > > > > > The relevant excerpts from the draft minutes are: > > > > > > > > DR: Please take a look at the protocol proposals and let us know on > > the list if anything is missing. > > > > DR: I would like to have a discussion and decision in about a months > > on the protocols. > > > > DR: Lets discuss during the rest of May and beginning of June the > > chairs will try to draw conclusions. > > > > JW: We need to have enough people participating in the discussion. > > > > PE: I like to state that it is required to work from behind a NAT. > > > > JW (Chair hat off) Agree and add IPv6 Firewall case as well > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > * Next Steps > > > > - Discuss the protocol aspects and the chairs will draw conclusions > > beginning on June > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > > > > > However, there were no opinions expressed or discussions on the mail > > list. > > > > > > > > I suggest that all participants in the WG express their opinions about > > the two proposals currently on record: > > > > > > > > - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schoenw-lmap- > restconf/ > > > > - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/ > > > > > > > > The protocol selection criteria are described at > > > > > > > > - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-lmap-rest/ > > > > > > > > Please state your position about which of the two is best suited to be > > used as MTI control protocol and MTI report protocol before Friday > 6/12. > > > > > > > > The chairs will state their recommendation shortly after. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards, > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lmap mailing list > > lmap@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lmap >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lmap mailing list > lmap@ietf.org > 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Subject: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:46:20 -0000 --_000_D1A8A65844F13jasonweiltwcablecom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LMAP WG Members, Based on response to a call for adoption sent by Dan on June 4th, Dan and = I have declared WG consensus for the adoption of draft-schoenw-lmap-restcon= f as a WG item. This draft will be developed in response to two of LMAP=92s= chartered work items to produce a Control and Report protocol as part of t= he LMAP measurement system. Juergen, Please submit the next version of draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf as draft-ietf= -lmap-restconf-00. Thanks to all who provided feedback. Dan and Jason ________________________________ This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the u= se of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the= intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissem= ination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents= of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawf= ul. 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LMAP WG Members,

Based on response to a call for adoption sent by Dan on June 4th, &nbs= p;Dan and I have declared WG consensus for the adoption of draft-schoenw-lm= ap-restconf as a WG item. This draft will be developed in response to two o= f LMAP=92s chartered work items to produce a Control and Report protocol as part of the LMAP measurement system.=  

Juergen, 

Please submit the next version of draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf as draft= -ietf-lmap-restconf-00.

Thanks to all who provided feedback. 

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 --_000_D1A8A65844F13jasonweiltwcablecom_-- From nobody Thu Jun 18 15:57:42 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA8D1A90B6 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:57:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RSman8CPj_9y for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com [209.65.160.94]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E31881A9048 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.229.23] (EHLO alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com) by nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-7.2.4-5) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 3ec43855.0.3336986.00-2326.9456365.nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:57:40 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 55834ce42f2a6e6a-ffa3c8e839db52399c919c36b965fe482ba54fd6 Received: from enaf.aldc.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t5IMvcT9028544; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:57:38 -0400 Received: from alpi133.aldc.att.com (alpi133.aldc.att.com [130.8.217.3]) by alpi154.enaf.aldc.att.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t5IMvYDg028512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:57:35 -0400 Received: from GAALPA1MSGHUBAD.ITServices.sbc.com (GAALPA1MSGHUBAD.itservices.sbc.com [130.8.218.153]) by alpi133.aldc.att.com (RSA Interceptor); Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:57:22 GMT Received: from GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com ([169.254.5.82]) by GAALPA1MSGHUBAD.ITServices.sbc.com ([130.8.218.153]) with mapi id 14.03.0224.002; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:57:22 -0400 From: "STARK, BARBARA H" To: "Weil, Jason" , "lmap@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf Thread-Index: AdCqB9K+dW0BBfLiS/qGy5gLBWRHaAAEfcPQ Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:57:21 +0000 Message-ID: <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E61132A04CAE@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.70.83.98] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=fYAaPTsF c=1 sm=1 a=VXHOiMMwGAwA+y4G3/O+aw==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=iEFsZXicHC4A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=zQP] X-AnalysisOut: [7CpKOAAAA:8 a=XIqpo32RAAAA:8 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=3T8Zejnhh] X-AnalysisOut: [DE5tkQqDPYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10] X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2014051901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.229.23] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 22:57:41 -0000 > Based on response to a call for adoption sent by Dan on June 4th, =A0Dan = and I have declared=20 > WG consensus for the adoption of draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf as a WG item= . This draft=20 > will be developed in response to two of LMAP's chartered work items to pr= oduce a Control=20 > and Report protocol as part of the=A0LMAP measurement system.=A0 What about the associated data model? Shouldn't that be adopted too? I like= having the data model as a separate doc. But it is a critical element of t= he protocol solution. Barbara From nobody Thu Jun 18 23:35:57 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F201A1BEF for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 23:35:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.86 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.86 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jaipPokv4VOS for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 23:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlas3.jacobs-university.de (atlas3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 791781A1BEE for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 23:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (demetrius5.irc-it.jacobs-university.de [10.70.0.222]) by atlas3.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1F415D4; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:35:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from atlas3.jacobs-university.de ([10.70.0.220]) by localhost (demetrius5.jacobs-university.de [10.70.0.222]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id dCmY-tFM87tA; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:35:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hermes.jacobs-university.de", Issuer "Jacobs University CA - G01" (verified OK)) by atlas3.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:35:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.46]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5734C2002B; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:35:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ew1cwm56d94C; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:35:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.jacobs.jacobs-university.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BF120013; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:35:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id D3CB73476A6E; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:35:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:35:48 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: "STARK, BARBARA H" Message-ID: <20150619063548.GA25705@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: "STARK, BARBARA H" , "Weil, Jason" , "lmap@ietf.org" References: <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E61132A04CAE@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E61132A04CAE@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Archived-At: Cc: "lmap@ietf.org" , "Weil, Jason" Subject: Re: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 06:35:55 -0000 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:57:21PM +0000, STARK, BARBARA H wrote: > > Based on response to a call for adoption sent by Dan on June 4th,  Dan and I have declared > > WG consensus for the adoption of draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf as a WG item. This draft > > will be developed in response to two of LMAP's chartered work items to produce a Control > > and Report protocol as part of the LMAP measurement system.  > > What about the associated data model? Shouldn't that be adopted too? I like having the data model as a separate doc. But it is a critical element of the protocol solution. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lmap-yang /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From nobody Fri Jun 19 00:47:48 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EBF1A702E for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 00:47:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.611 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.611 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uwtKXbT-oEVC for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 00:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpb1.bt.com (smtpb1.bt.com [62.7.242.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 909981A700C for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 00:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EVHUB05-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net (193.113.108.173) by EVMED03-UKBR.bt.com (10.216.161.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.195.1; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:47:43 +0100 Received: from rew09926dag03a.domain1.systemhost.net (10.55.202.18) by EVHUB05-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net (193.113.108.173) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:47:43 +0100 Received: from rew09926dag03b.domain1.systemhost.net (10.55.202.22) by rew09926dag03a.domain1.systemhost.net (10.55.202.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.29; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:47:42 +0100 Received: from rew09926dag03b.domain1.systemhost.net ([fe80::d514:fe50:560c:401e]) by rew09926dag03b.domain1.systemhost.net ([fe80::d514:fe50:560c:401e%12]) with mapi id 15.00.0995.031; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 08:47:42 +0100 From: To: , Thread-Topic: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf Thread-Index: AdCqB9K+dW0BBfLiS/qGy5gLBWRHaAAEfcPQAA4AeQAABIfmEA== Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 07:47:42 +0000 Message-ID: <28820126ceba462cb15975af17d71197@rew09926dag03b.domain1.systemhost.net> References: <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E61132A04CAE@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> <20150619063548.GA25705@elstar.local> In-Reply-To: <20150619063548.GA25705@elstar.local> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.55.202.233] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: jason.weil@twcable.com, lmap@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 07:47:48 -0000 I agree with Barbara. The YANG data model is a critical part to standardise= and should also be adopted. Trevor. -----Original Message----- From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Juergen Schoenwaelde= r Sent: 19 June 2015 07:36 To: STARK, BARBARA H Cc: lmap@ietf.org; Weil, Jason Subject: Re: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:57:21PM +0000, STARK, BARBARA H wrote: > > Based on response to a call for adoption sent by Dan on June 4th, =A0Da= n and I have declared=20 > > WG consensus for the adoption of draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf as a WG it= em. This draft=20 > > will be developed in response to two of LMAP's chartered work items to = produce a Control=20 > > and Report protocol as part of the=A0LMAP measurement system.=A0 >=20 > What about the associated data model? Shouldn't that be adopted too? I li= ke having the data model as a separate doc. But it is a critical element of= the protocol solution. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lmap-yang /js --=20 Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 _______________________________________________ lmap mailing list lmap@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lmap From nobody Fri Jun 19 00:56:25 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3121A86DD for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 00:56:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.86 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.86 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l_UV8dIPpY01 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 00:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlas3.jacobs-university.de (atlas3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A35CC1A854D for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 00:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (demetrius5.irc-it.jacobs-university.de [10.70.0.222]) by atlas3.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B663F8EA; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:56:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from atlas3.jacobs-university.de ([10.70.0.220]) by localhost (demetrius5.jacobs-university.de [10.70.0.222]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id 04X42KTLOlKr; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:56:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hermes.jacobs-university.de", Issuer "Jacobs University CA - G01" (verified OK)) by atlas3.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:56:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.48]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17AD2002B; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:56:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8BGpQZckPLt1; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:56:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.jacobs.jacobs-university.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFF620013; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:56:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id DA1D33476CC0; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:56:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:56:17 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: trevor.burbridge@bt.com Message-ID: <20150619075617.GB26000@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: trevor.burbridge@bt.com, bs7652@att.com, jason.weil@twcable.com, lmap@ietf.org References: <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E61132A04CAE@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> <20150619063548.GA25705@elstar.local> <28820126ceba462cb15975af17d71197@rew09926dag03b.domain1.systemhost.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <28820126ceba462cb15975af17d71197@rew09926dag03b.domain1.systemhost.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Archived-At: Cc: lmap@ietf.org, bs7652@att.com, jason.weil@twcable.com Subject: Re: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 07:56:23 -0000 Sorry, I might have been a bit too concise. The data model has already been adopted - this is why we have draft-ietf-lmap-yang. /js On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 07:47:42AM +0000, trevor.burbridge@bt.com wrote: > I agree with Barbara. The YANG data model is a critical part to standardise and should also be adopted. > > Trevor. > > -----Original Message----- > From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Juergen Schoenwaelder > Sent: 19 June 2015 07:36 > To: STARK, BARBARA H > Cc: lmap@ietf.org; Weil, Jason > Subject: Re: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:57:21PM +0000, STARK, BARBARA H wrote: > > > Based on response to a call for adoption sent by Dan on June 4th,  Dan and I have declared > > > WG consensus for the adoption of draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf as a WG item. This draft > > > will be developed in response to two of LMAP's chartered work items to produce a Control > > > and Report protocol as part of the LMAP measurement system.  > > > > What about the associated data model? Shouldn't that be adopted too? I like having the data model as a separate doc. But it is a critical element of the protocol solution. > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lmap-yang > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 > > _______________________________________________ > lmap mailing list > lmap@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lmap > > _______________________________________________ > lmap mailing list > lmap@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lmap -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From nobody Sun Jun 21 01:58:52 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942F51A1BDD for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 01:58:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A3yAT5GC7vCP for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 01:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com (p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DCF61A1BCF for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 01:58:48 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtAFAHvmdlXGmAcV/2dsb2JhbABZA4JmKlReBqxfAQEBAQEBBpNuhXkCgUhMAQEBAQEBgQuEIgEBAQEDEgtRCwwCAgIBCA0BAgEEAQEBCh0HGxcUCQgBAQQBDQUIEweIDAEMoTyufgEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBARMEBIYVhSqEVSEQBwYLgwaBFgWTPoRCjw6PSySDeG8BAYFEgQEBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,581,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="126007833" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest-exch.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.21]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 21 Jun 2015 04:58:47 -0400 X-OutboundMail_SMTP: 1 Received: from unknown (HELO AZ-FFEXHC03.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.58.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 21 Jun 2015 04:58:46 -0400 Received: from AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com ([fe80::6db7:b0af:8480:c126]) by AZ-FFEXHC03.global.avaya.com ([135.64.58.13]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 04:58:44 -0400 From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: Juergen Schoenwaelder , "trevor.burbridge@bt.com" Thread-Topic: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf Thread-Index: AdCqB9K+dW0BBfLiS/qGy5gLBWRHaAAEfcPQAAvoBwAAAoLWAAAM32WAAF5SAlA= Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 08:58:43 +0000 Message-ID: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA6E607@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> References: <2D09D61DDFA73D4C884805CC7865E61132A04CAE@GAALPA1MSGUSRBF.ITServices.sbc.com> <20150619063548.GA25705@elstar.local> <28820126ceba462cb15975af17d71197@rew09926dag03b.domain1.systemhost.net> <20150619075617.GB26000@elstar.local> In-Reply-To: <20150619075617.GB26000@elstar.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.64.58.48] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "jason.weil@twcable.com" , "bs7652@att.com" , "lmap@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 08:58:50 -0000 Indeed. The DM issue was already settled a few months back, and this lead t= o publishing draft-ietf-lmap-yang as a WG item (as indicated by the draft-i= etf prefix). The protocol issue was left open and is settled now.=20 Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Juergen > Schoenwaelder > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:56 AM > To: trevor.burbridge@bt.com > Cc: lmap@ietf.org; bs7652@att.com; jason.weil@twcable.com > Subject: Re: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf >=20 > Sorry, I might have been a bit too concise. The data model has already be= en > adopted - this is why we have draft-ietf-lmap-yang. >=20 > /js >=20 > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 07:47:42AM +0000, trevor.burbridge@bt.com wrote: > > I agree with Barbara. The YANG data model is a critical part to standar= dise > and should also be adopted. > > > > Trevor. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lmap [mailto:lmap-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Juergen > > Schoenwaelder > > Sent: 19 June 2015 07:36 > > To: STARK, BARBARA H > > Cc: lmap@ietf.org; Weil, Jason > > Subject: Re: [lmap] WG Adoption of draft-shoenw-lmap-restconf > > > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:57:21PM +0000, STARK, BARBARA H wrote: > > > > Based on response to a call for adoption sent by Dan on June 4th, > > > > Dan and I have declared WG consensus for the adoption of > > > > draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf as a WG item. This draft will be > > > > developed in response to two of LMAP's chartered work items to > produce a Control and Report protocol as part of the=A0LMAP measurement > system. > > > > > > What about the associated data model? Shouldn't that be adopted too? = I > like having the data model as a separate doc. But it is a critical elemen= t of the > protocol solution. > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__tools.ietf.org_h= t > > ml_draft-2Dietf-2Dlmap- > 2Dyang&d=3DAwIFAw&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=3DI4dz > > > GxR31OcNXCJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DGhFeoTv68D_yImGlBe9d > WcOTGUt5 > > > NGB4nBhqzshpqdk&s=3DQ62vyg_kt4U2B8Y6XFf1wbe8W4R_5bKVh33FgUyIwB > w&e=3D > > > > /js > > > > -- > > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 > 2Duniversity.de_&d=3DAwIFAw&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=3DI4dzGxR31 > OcNXCJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DGhFeoTv68D_yImGlBe9dWcOT > GUt5NGB4nBhqzshpqdk&s=3DpcfQ7nZDAEb1SzmioHz-sR8xM3Wm- > nEcgXzVhT9UvXg&e=3D > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lmap mailing list > > lmap@ietf.org > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps- > 3A__www.ietf.org_mail > > > man_listinfo_lmap&d=3DAwIFAw&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=3DI4dzGxR3 > 1OcNXCJf > > > QzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DGhFeoTv68D_yImGlBe9dWcOTGUt5NGB > 4nBhqzshp > > qdk&s=3D6tXtf5TRqIzPguDOxMnZHw3P9BzhOJnGf_EmrXvCOZo&e=3D > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lmap mailing list > > lmap@ietf.org > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps- > 3A__www.ietf.org_mail > > > man_listinfo_lmap&d=3DAwIFAw&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=3DI4dzGxR3 > 1OcNXCJf > > > QzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DGhFeoTv68D_yImGlBe9dWcOTGUt5NGB > 4nBhqzshp > > qdk&s=3D6tXtf5TRqIzPguDOxMnZHw3P9BzhOJnGf_EmrXvCOZo&e=3D >=20 > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 > 2Duniversity.de_&d=3DAwIFAw&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=3DI4dzGxR31 > OcNXCJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DGhFeoTv68D_yImGlBe9dWcOT > GUt5NGB4nBhqzshpqdk&s=3DpcfQ7nZDAEb1SzmioHz-sR8xM3Wm- > nEcgXzVhT9UvXg&e=3D > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > lmap mailing list > lmap@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps- > 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_lmap&d=3DAwIFAw&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl > 1SgiZH64Q&r=3DI4dzGxR31OcNXCJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DGhFeo > Tv68D_yImGlBe9dWcOTGUt5NGB4nBhqzshpqdk&s=3D6tXtf5TRqIzPguDOxMnZ > Hw3P9BzhOJnGf_EmrXvCOZo&e=3D From nobody Wed Jun 24 06:46:19 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB091A9114 for ; 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boundary="_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA74667AZFFEXMB04globa_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [lmap] LMAP preliminary schedule and draft agenda for IETF 93 X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:46:18 -0000 --_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA74667AZFFEXMB04globa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LMAP is right now scheduled at IETF 93 as follows: THURSDAY, July 23, 2015 1520-1720 Afternoon Session II Karlin I/II OPS lmap Large-Scale Measurement of Br= oadband Performance WG Note that this is still subject to change. The final agenda will be publish= ed at the end of the week. Based on the current requests I uploaded a preliminary agenda of the WG mee= ting at https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/agenda/agenda-93-lmap. Please c= omment. I expect based on the announcement made a few days ago that draft-schoenw-l= map-restconf will be replaced by draft-ietf-lmap-restconf. Thanks and Regards, Dan --_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA74667AZFFEXMB04globa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

LMAP is right now scheduled at IETF 93 as follows: <= o:p>

 

THURSDAY, July 23, 2015

1520-1720  Afternoon Session II<=
/o:p>
Karlin I/II      =
      OPS     lmap   =
;        Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband=
 Performance WG

 

 

Note that this is still subject to change. The final= agenda will be published at the end of the week.

 

Based on the current requests I uploaded a prelimina= ry agenda of the WG meeting at https= ://www.ietf.org/proceedings/93/agenda/agenda-93-lmap. Please comment.

 

I expect based on the announcement made a few days a= go that draft-schoenw-lmap-restconf will be replaced by draft-ietf-lmap-res= tconf.

 

Thanks and Regards,

 

Dan

 

 

--_000_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA74667AZFFEXMB04globa_-- From nobody Thu Jun 25 00:14:56 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9903D1B2A91 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:14:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IooJfDqJaFT4 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E8AB1B2A87 for ; 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boundary="_002_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA756DDAZFFEXMB04globa_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [lmap] FW: [IRTF-Announce] IRTF & ISOC Workshop on Research and Applications of Internet Measurements (RAIM) in Cooperation with ACM SIGCOMM X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:14:55 -0000 --_002_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA756DDAZFFEXMB04globa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe that this announcement is relevant for the scope of LMAP.=20 Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: IRTF-Announce [mailto:irtf-announce-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of > Eggert, Lars > Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:41 AM > To: irtf-announce@irtf.org; irtf-discuss@irtf.org > Subject: [IRTF-Announce] IRTF & ISOC Workshop on Research and > Applications of Internet Measurements (RAIM) in Cooperation with ACM > SIGCOMM >=20 > Hi, >=20 > to increase collaboration between industry and academia in the field of > networking, the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF) and the Internet Soci= ety > (ISOC) in cooperation with ACM SIGCOMM are organizing a workshop on > Research and Applications of Internet Measurements (RAIM), scheduled for > the Saturday in between the 2015 ACM SIGCOMM Internet Measurement > Conference (IMC) in Tokyo and the 94th Internet Engineering Task Force > (IETF) meeting in Yokohama. >=20 > Submission deadline: Friday, August 7, 2015 > Notifications: Friday, August 28, 2015 > Workshop date: Saturday, October 31, 2015 >=20 > Details and submission instructions at https://irtf.org/raim-2015 > Lars --_002_9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA756DDAZFFEXMB04globa_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Lack of time, out of= focus, or are there any other (technical?) reasons? Why did it had to go o= n AD-sponsored and Experimental track? - This work may potentially be useful for LMAP which has scheduling and tim= e-stamping features in its architecture and framework. LMAP however just se= lected RESTCONF as their preferred protocol. What would it take to extend t= his work to RESTCONF)? (may be another piece of work) Thanks and Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: IETF-Announce [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > The IESG > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:58 PM > To: IETF-Announce > Subject: Last Call: (Time > Capability in NETCONF) to Experimental RFC >=20 >=20 > The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider = the > following document: > - 'Time Capability in NETCONF' > as Experimental RFC >=20 > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits fin= al > comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the > ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-07-29. Exceptionally, comments may be > sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginnin= g of > the Subject line to allow automated sorting. >=20 > Abstract >=20 >=20 > This document defines a capability-based extension to the Network > Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) that allows time-triggered > configuration and management operations. This extension allows > NETCONF clients to invoke configuration updates according to > scheduled times, and allows NETCONF servers to attach timestamps to > the data they send to NETCONF clients. >=20 >=20 > The Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) Capability URNs registry > requires a standards action in order to populate the registry. This docum= ent > was taken out of the ISE stream and brought forward as an AD sponsored > individual-submission to address this consideration. >=20 >=20 > The file can be obtained via > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps- > 3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dmm-2Dnetconf-2Dtime- > 2Dcapability_&d=3DAwICAg&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=3DI4dzGxR31OcNX > CJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DeIbq6OXE65r_w9lwmd5WrktViMncM > zhCDjk3tyjnVvU&s=3DB6e1FBSZH9H- > OYAnRMYEgTJVYQ6SSqa2K9XpuIyx3mI&e=3D >=20 > IESG discussion can be tracked via > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps- > 3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dmm-2Dnetconf-2Dtime- > 2Dcapability_ballot_&d=3DAwICAg&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=3DI4dzGxR3 > 1OcNXCJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DeIbq6OXE65r_w9lwmd5WrktVi > MncMzhCDjk3tyjnVvU&s=3DWbISmWkVGVo43riTMHY7kzIkAREkQrB2aq- > lyYOad-Y&e=3D >=20 >=20 > No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. >=20 From nobody Mon Jun 29 10:15:57 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FF81B2BC7; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:15:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.86 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.86 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ROYtZI_1TZWK; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlas3.jacobs-university.de (atlas3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9E5B1B2BC8; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (demetrius5.irc-it.jacobs-university.de [10.70.0.222]) by atlas3.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7621124E; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:15:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from atlas3.jacobs-university.de ([10.70.0.220]) by localhost (demetrius5.jacobs-university.de [10.70.0.222]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id 3VDYdoz48t30; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:15:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hermes.jacobs-university.de", Issuer "Jacobs University CA - G01" (verified OK)) by atlas3.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:15:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.48]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F99A2002B; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:15:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FRC6l5cJPF4d; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:15:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.jacobs.jacobs-university.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE4D920013; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:15:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 1340F34E4C8F; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:15:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:15:46 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" Message-ID: <20150629171546.GA2841@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , "ietf@ietf.org" , "netconf@ietf.org" , "lmap@ietf.org" References: <20150629145822.7722.8876.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA78C61@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA78C61@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Archived-At: Cc: "lmap@ietf.org" , "ietf@ietf.org" , "netconf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [lmap] [Netconf] Last Call: (Time Capability in NETCONF) to Experimental RFC X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen Schoenwaelder List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:15:54 -0000 On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 04:49:26PM +0000, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > (I apologize for cross-posting) but it seems justified in this case) > > I find this work useful. > > I have two questions: > - why was not this document adopted by the NETCONF WG? Lack of time, out of focus, or are there any other (technical?) reasons? Why did it had to go on AD-sponsored and Experimental track? > - This work may potentially be useful for LMAP which has scheduling and time-stamping features in its architecture and framework. LMAP however just selected RESTCONF as their preferred protocol. What would it take to extend this work to RESTCONF)? (may be another piece of work) > LMAP deals with scheduling as part of the data model. I do not think that config changes are the way to model the start of measurements. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 From nobody Mon Jun 29 10:34:17 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 705801B2BD5; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:17:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tVkYEDfLsGnN; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x230.google.com (mail-pd0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9DFC1B2BD3; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pdbep18 with SMTP id ep18so98286302pdb.1; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:17:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=GsAOnkQTG7bu9wfkZMA2tXgOXhM4VLkNVpphyUiuugw=; b=h1cgBlnSwa/RMzcQmJqEfhqhkcOTPOD+6WiFGiTC5ZOwewl0Tv/MfoM2o53fDr9n1d yYhoz5hsPkRi+PDtm0h+wf6KxfPQRKbTj7Scy3GMcaffOFUImobkXfVdLPvk7rkjB2qZ q9aN1q+MK8IKKkDzr9yeU+DlyqYCpzCGbE3koPVNn6NilXW4rgN4VHci9h8kW/Uma1ZP YkWquSGMiDqdfXZLEZuV+R2/ZrqnXpUA7PJbWwa1EgqIdiZ95kGZQp/xSCjmy21EAio9 rbRCpbXha0BkRtW2lT08KCgDsPlhuvvpZPhmAvmp6zK94etuQsjiJVv6IS5hzxw418qS FDYQ== X-Received: by 10.70.43.169 with SMTP id x9mr33720899pdl.52.1435598236591; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjc-mahesh-nitro3.cisco.com ([128.107.241.183]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id go5sm42808464pbd.36.2015.06.29.10.17.14 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_38C39B79-38E9-4874-B178-F93387A385BE" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) From: Mahesh Jethanandani In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA78C61@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:17:13 -0700 Message-Id: References: <20150629145822.7722.8876.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA78C61@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> To: "Dan Romascanu (Dan)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:34:15 -0700 Cc: "lmap@ietf.org" , "ietf@ietf.org" , "netconf@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [lmap] [Netconf] Last Call: (Time Capability in NETCONF) to Experimental RFC X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:17:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_38C39B79-38E9-4874-B178-F93387A385BE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dan, If you go into the archives of NETCONF and search for the draft, you = will find some history on the draft. It started by folks asking for questions and clarifications on the = draft. Even after they were seemingly addressed, their was little or no = support for adopting the draft into the WG both in IETF 92 and on the = mailing list. If you believe that there is a need for this work and able to get folks = to review the draft and show support for it on the mailing list, the WG = can relook at the draft. Making it experimental is always an option. Cheers. > On Jun 29, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) = wrote: >=20 > (I apologize for cross-posting) but it seems justified in this case)=20= >=20 > I find this work useful.=20 >=20 > I have two questions:=20 > - why was not this document adopted by the NETCONF WG? Lack of time, = out of focus, or are there any other (technical?) reasons? Why did it = had to go on AD-sponsored and Experimental track? > - This work may potentially be useful for LMAP which has scheduling = and time-stamping features in its architecture and framework. LMAP = however just selected RESTCONF as their preferred protocol. What would = it take to extend this work to RESTCONF)? (may be another piece of work) >=20 > Thanks and Regards, >=20 > Dan >=20 >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IETF-Announce [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of >> The IESG >> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:58 PM >> To: IETF-Announce >> Subject: Last Call: (Time >> Capability in NETCONF) to Experimental RFC >>=20 >>=20 >> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to = consider the >> following document: >> - 'Time Capability in NETCONF' >> as Experimental RFC >>=20 >> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits = final >> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the >> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-07-29. Exceptionally, comments = may be >> sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the = beginning of >> the Subject line to allow automated sorting. >>=20 >> Abstract >>=20 >>=20 >> This document defines a capability-based extension to the Network >> Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) that allows time-triggered >> configuration and management operations. This extension allows >> NETCONF clients to invoke configuration updates according to >> scheduled times, and allows NETCONF servers to attach timestamps to >> the data they send to NETCONF clients. >>=20 >>=20 >> The Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) Capability URNs registry >> requires a standards action in order to populate the registry. This = document >> was taken out of the ISE stream and brought forward as an AD = sponsored >> individual-submission to address this consideration. >>=20 >>=20 >> The file can be obtained via >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps- >> 3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dmm-2Dnetconf-2Dtime- >> 2Dcapability_&d=3DAwICAg&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=3DI4dzGxR31OcNX >> CJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DeIbq6OXE65r_w9lwmd5WrktViMncM >> zhCDjk3tyjnVvU&s=3DB6e1FBSZH9H- >> OYAnRMYEgTJVYQ6SSqa2K9XpuIyx3mI&e=3D >>=20 >> IESG discussion can be tracked via >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps- >> 3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dmm-2Dnetconf-2Dtime- >> 2Dcapability_ballot_&d=3DAwICAg&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=3DI4dzGxR3= >> 1OcNXCJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DeIbq6OXE65r_w9lwmd5WrktVi >> MncMzhCDjk3tyjnVvU&s=3DWbISmWkVGVo43riTMHY7kzIkAREkQrB2aq- >> lyYOad-Y&e=3D >>=20 >>=20 >> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Netconf mailing list > Netconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_38C39B79-38E9-4874-B178-F93387A385BE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Dan,

If = you go into the archives of NETCONF and search for the draft, you will = find some history on the draft.

It started by folks asking for = questions and clarifications on the draft. Even after they were = seemingly addressed, their was little or no support for adopting the = draft into the WG both in IETF 92 and on the mailing list.

If you believe that = there is a need for this work and able to get folks to review the draft = and show support for it on the mailing list, the WG can relook at the = draft. Making it experimental is always an option.

Cheers.

On Jun 29, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com> = wrote:

(I = apologize for cross-posting) but it seems justified in this case)

I find this work useful.

I have two questions:
- why was not this = document adopted by the NETCONF WG? Lack of time, out of focus, or are = there any other (technical?) reasons? Why did it had to go on = AD-sponsored and Experimental track?
- This work may = potentially be useful for LMAP which has scheduling and time-stamping = features in its architecture and framework. LMAP however just selected = RESTCONF as their preferred protocol. What would it take to extend this = work to RESTCONF)? (may be another piece of work)

Thanks and Regards,

Dan


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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:58 PM
To: IETF-Announce
Subject: Last Call: = <draft-mm-netconf-time-capability-05.txt> (Time
Capability in NETCONF) to Experimental RFC


The IESG has received a request from an = individual submitter to consider the
following = document:
- 'Time Capability in NETCONF'
=  <draft-mm-netconf-time-capability-05.txt> as Experimental = RFC

The IESG plans to make a decision in = the next few weeks, and solicits final
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Abstract


  This document = defines a capability-based extension to the Network
=   Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) that allows = time-triggered
  configuration and management = operations. This extension allows
  NETCONF = clients to invoke configuration updates according to
=   scheduled times, and allows NETCONF servers to attach = timestamps to
  the data they send to NETCONF = clients.


The Network = Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) Capability URNs registry
requires a standards action in order to populate the = registry. This document
was taken out of the ISE stream = and brought forward as an AD sponsored
individual-submission= to address this consideration.


The file can be obtained via
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-
3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dmm-2Dnetconf-2Dtime-
2Dcapability_&d=3DAwICAg&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&= ;r=3DI4dzGxR31OcNX
CJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DeIbq6OXE65r_w9lwmd5WrktV= iMncM
zhCDjk3tyjnVvU&s=3DB6e1FBSZH9H-
OYAnRMYEgTJVYQ6SSqa2K9XpuIyx3mI&e=3D

IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-
3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dmm-2Dnetconf-2Dtime-
2Dcapability_ballot_&d=3DAwICAg&c=3DBFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH= 64Q&r=3DI4dzGxR3
1OcNXCJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=3DeIbq6OXE65r_w9lwmd5= WrktVi
MncMzhCDjk3tyjnVvU&s=3DWbISmWkVGVo43riTMHY7kzIkAREkQrB2aq-<= br class=3D"">lyYOad-Y&e=3D


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this = I-D.


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= --Apple-Mail=_38C39B79-38E9-4874-B178-F93387A385BE-- From nobody Mon Jun 29 10:34:18 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F05B1B2BDE; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:17:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n7agxBpAPlok; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-2.cisco.com (alln-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.142.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF03B1B2BDC; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:17:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3532; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1435598245; x=1436807845; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=a2cjrFbYHuNvpuOB56CryJlGxrpc1cX358/ZzwvlcDc=; b=XgK1Z8fmCZs4dc/YuoO37w3tAu2xoMDfEDZG4hxGkoebDkiVusvbJM79 Y2sWIVzB2/AJjJmPpU+fXPdgaXx4hb3lcDIAPyUVWW0Z5g4pklissTwOc wfWY1JXf7t31IkICjYufVcx/0BfJP8X2bydsWjmhm/IjOnp51omdiGqZn U=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0CoAwAtfZFV/4sNJK1bgxFUX70kCYFcCoUuSgKBOzgUAQEBAQEBAYEKhCIBAQEDAQEBATU2CgEMBAsRAQMBAQEJFgQEBwkDAgECARUfAwYIBgEMAQUCAQGIIwgNyHsBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQETBItKhFMzBwaEJQEElASEWYJYhCSBOoQRgmuQBSZjgSkcFYFZIjGCSAEBAQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.15,371,1432598400"; d="scan'208";a="163670655" Received: from alln-core-6.cisco.com ([173.36.13.139]) by alln-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 29 Jun 2015 17:17:07 +0000 Received: from [10.150.53.127] (dhcp-10-150-53-127.cisco.com [10.150.53.127]) by alln-core-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t5THH6gh031642; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:17:06 GMT Message-ID: <55917D92.5050604@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:17:06 -0400 From: Joe Clarke Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , "ietf@ietf.org" References: <20150629145822.7722.8876.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA78C61@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> In-Reply-To: <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA78C61@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:34:15 -0700 Cc: "netconf@ietf.org" , "lmap@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [lmap] [Netconf] Last Call: (Time Capability in NETCONF) to Experimental RFC X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:17:31 -0000 On 6/29/15 12:49, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > (I apologize for cross-posting) but it seems justified in this case) > > I find this work useful. As do I. I remember the when this was first presented in Berlin. I thought it had value. > > I have two questions: > - why was not this document adopted by the NETCONF WG? Lack of time, out of focus, or are there any other (technical?) reasons? Why did it had to go on AD-sponsored and Experimental track? I'll speak from what I saw. There didn't seem to be a lot of traction on the WG list, but I do feel this would be beneficial as a working group item. Joe > - This work may potentially be useful for LMAP which has scheduling and time-stamping features in its architecture and framework. LMAP however just selected RESTCONF as their preferred protocol. What would it take to extend this work to RESTCONF)? (may be another piece of work) > > Thanks and Regards, > > Dan > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IETF-Announce [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >> The IESG >> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:58 PM >> To: IETF-Announce >> Subject: Last Call: (Time >> Capability in NETCONF) to Experimental RFC >> >> >> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the >> following document: >> - 'Time Capability in NETCONF' >> as Experimental RFC >> >> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final >> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the >> ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2015-07-29. Exceptionally, comments may be >> sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of >> the Subject line to allow automated sorting. >> >> Abstract >> >> >> This document defines a capability-based extension to the Network >> Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) that allows time-triggered >> configuration and management operations. This extension allows >> NETCONF clients to invoke configuration updates according to >> scheduled times, and allows NETCONF servers to attach timestamps to >> the data they send to NETCONF clients. >> >> >> The Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) Capability URNs registry >> requires a standards action in order to populate the registry. This document >> was taken out of the ISE stream and brought forward as an AD sponsored >> individual-submission to address this consideration. >> >> >> The file can be obtained via >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> 3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dmm-2Dnetconf-2Dtime- >> 2Dcapability_&d=AwICAg&c=BFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=I4dzGxR31OcNX >> CJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=eIbq6OXE65r_w9lwmd5WrktViMncM >> zhCDjk3tyjnVvU&s=B6e1FBSZH9H- >> OYAnRMYEgTJVYQ6SSqa2K9XpuIyx3mI&e= >> >> IESG discussion can be tracked via >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> 3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dmm-2Dnetconf-2Dtime- >> 2Dcapability_ballot_&d=AwICAg&c=BFpWQw8bsuKpl1SgiZH64Q&r=I4dzGxR3 >> 1OcNXCJfQzvlsiLQfucBXRucPvdrphpBsFA&m=eIbq6OXE65r_w9lwmd5WrktVi >> MncMzhCDjk3tyjnVvU&s=WbISmWkVGVo43riTMHY7kzIkAREkQrB2aq- >> lyYOad-Y&e= >> >> >> No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Netconf mailing list > Netconf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf > From nobody Tue Jun 30 03:47:43 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lmap@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD481B301B; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:34:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BDdCbvFBAsIi; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCF721B3019; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BUN30265; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:33:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.34) by lhreml402-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.241) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 04:33:51 +0100 Received: from NKGEML512-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.7.155]) by nkgeml403-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.34]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 11:33:47 +0800 From: "Anil Kumar S N (VRP Network BL)" To: "lmap@ietf.org" , "ietf@ietf.org" , "netconf@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Netconf] Last Call: (Time Capability in NETCONF) to Experimental RFC Thread-Index: AQHQsnwZysM/LtkX402MtFtOvN7Dw53Dr38w//+D5QCAATGdcA== Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:33:46 +0000 Message-ID: <327562D94EA7BF428CD805F338C31EF06B5AD96A@nkgeml512-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <20150629145822.7722.8876.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <9904FB1B0159DA42B0B887B7FA8119CA5CA78C61@AZ-FFEXMB04.global.avaya.com> <20150629171546.GA2841@elstar.local> In-Reply-To: <20150629171546.GA2841@elstar.local> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.212.150] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:47:42 -0700 Cc: "dew@tx.technion.ac.il" , "moses@ee.technion.ac.il" Subject: Re: [lmap] [Netconf] Last Call: (Time Capability in NETCONF) to Experimental RFC X-BeenThere: lmap@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Large Scale Measurement of Access network Performance List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 03:34:07 -0000 I support this draft. Thanks & Regards Anil S N "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send" - Jon Po= stel -----Original Message----- From: IETF-Announce [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Th= e IESG Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 5:58 PM To: IETF-Announce Subject: Last Call: (Time Capabil= ity in NETCONF) to Experimental RFC The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider th= e following document: - 'Time Capability in NETCONF' as Experimental RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final= comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the ietf@ietf= .org mailing lists by 2015-07-29. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to ie= sg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Sub= ject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document defines a capability-based extension to the Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) that allows time-triggered configuration and management operations. This extension allows NETCONF clients to invoke configuration updates according to scheduled times, and allows NETCONF servers to attach timestamps to the data they send to NETCONF clients. The Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) Capability URNs registry requi= res a standards action in order to populate the registry. This document was= taken out of the ISE stream and brought forward as an AD sponsored individ= ual-submission to address this consideration. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mm-netconf-time-capability/ IESG discussion can be tracked via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mm-netconf-time-capability/ballot/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.