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This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 "=
 from April 6th to April 20th .

During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for =
more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.



please indicate the following things:



1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR=
 WG document?

2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the =
LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR c=
harter?

3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?

4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additiona=
l content and technical attention?

5)            What is missing from this draft?



For your quick access to this draft, find the link below:



https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/



Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly =
volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:

  * Mankamana Mishra

  * Boris Hassanov

  * Jacob Uecker



Kind Regards,



Victor & Gunter

co-chairs LSVR WG


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The LSVR WG has placed draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf in state
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Gunter Van de Velde)

The document is available at
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Follow up from LSVR WG meeting during IETF101.


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> This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for
> "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 " from April 6th to April 20th .

have read once, not deeply.  idea looks useful.  doc looks within normal
bounds.

> 2) Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the LSVR
>    charter

yes

> 3) Are there any technical issues with this draft?

i need to read more thoroughly; but am not going to waste my time unless
it is a wg draft

> 4) Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additional
>    content and technical attention?
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> 5) What is missing from this draft?

oh pfui!  i think it should be adopted.  enough.

randy


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Support the adoption of document. and here are some initial comments. if th=
ere is anything else, i would post it in list.

1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR=
 WG document?
Yes
2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the =
LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR c=
harter?
Yes
3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?
Nothing as of now which would prevent it to be adopted as WG document .
4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additiona=
l content and technical attention?
Adding some more text about case where some of the speaker not supporting t=
his specification would be good.
5)            What is missing from this draft?
Nothing as of now.



Comment: Section  1.1<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-s=
pf-00#section-1.1>. BGP Shortest Path First (SPF) Motivation talks about

   Another potential advantage of BGP SPF is that both IPv6 and IPv4 can
   be supported in the same address family using the same topology.
   Although not described in this version of the document, multi-
   topology extensions can be used to support separate IPv4, IPv6,
   unicast, and multicast topologies while sharing the same NLRI

are there plan to add more text in this area ?





Editorial comment:
5.1<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00#section-5.1>=
.  Phase-1 BGP NLRI Selection

2.  If the Sequence-Number TLV is present in the BGP-LS Attribute,

       then the NLIR with the most recent, i.e., highest sequence number  >=
>>>> I assume it was NLRI



Mankamana

On Apr 6, 2018, at 8:36 AM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <gunt=
er.van_de_velde@nokia.com<mailto:gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>> wrote:


This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 "=
 from April 6th to April 20th .
During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for =
more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.

please indicate the following things:

1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR=
 WG document?
2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the =
LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR c=
harter?
3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?
4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additiona=
l content and technical attention?
5)            What is missing from this draft?

For your quick access to this draft, find the link below:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/

Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly =
volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:
  * Mankamana Mishra
  * Boris Hassanov
  * Jacob Uecker

Kind Regards,

Victor & Gunter
co-chairs LSVR WG


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pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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e" class=3D"">5.1</span></a><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &q=
uot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D"">.&nbsp;
 Phase-1 BGP NLRI Selection<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></h3>
<pre class=3D"">2.&nbsp; If the Sequence-Number TLV is present in the BGP-L=
S Attribute,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></pre>
<pre class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; then the <span style=
=3D"background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow" class=3D"">NLIR</span> with the=
 most recent, i.e., highest sequence number&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I as=
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<div class=3D"">Mankamana&nbsp;<br class=3D"">
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<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">On Apr 6, 2018, at 8:36 AM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - B=
E/Antwerp) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com" class=3D"">=
gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
<div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0=
, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-=
variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-ali=
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d-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
<o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf=
-00 &quot; from April 6th to April 20<sup class=3D"">th</sup><span class=3D=
"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for =
more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
<o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
please indicate the following things:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=
&nbsp;</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
<o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
1) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Support to adopt =
draft &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR WG document?<o:p class=
=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you=
 feel &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00&quot; complies to the LSVR chart=
er, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR charter?<o:=
p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are th=
ere any technical issues with this draft?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
4) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Which are current=
 pain-points in the draft requiring additional content and technical attent=
ion?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
5)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What i=
s missing from this draft?<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</spa=
n><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
<o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
For your quick access to this draft, find the link below:<o:p class=3D""></=
o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
<o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/" s=
tyle=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">h=
ttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/</a><o:p class=
=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
<o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly =
volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:<o:p class=3D""></=
o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
&nbsp; * Mankamana Mishra<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
&nbsp; * Boris Hassanov<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
&nbsp; * Jacob Uecker<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
<o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
Kind Regards,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
<o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
Victor &amp; Gunter<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div>
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">
co-chairs LSVR WG<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></div>
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Yes/support

=20

Cheers,

Jeff

From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "Mankamana Mishra (mankamis=
)" <mankamis@cisco.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 07:47
To: "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.=
com>
Cc: "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org" <draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@iet=
f.org>, Boris Hassanov <bhassanov@yahoo.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org=
>, Jacob Uecker <juecker.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 (Ap=
ril 6 to April 20

=20

Support the adoption of document. and here are some initial comments. if th=
ere is anything else, i would post it in list.=20

=20

1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR=
 WG document?

Yes=20

2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the =
LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR ch=
arter?

Yes

3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?

Nothing as of now which would prevent it to be adopted as WG document .=20

4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additiona=
l content and technical attention?

Adding some more text about case where some of the speaker not supporting t=
his specification would be good.=20

5)            What is missing from this draft?=20

Nothing as of now.=20

=20

=20

=20

Comment: Section  1.1. BGP Shortest Path First (SPF) Motivation talks about=
=20

=C2=A0=C2=A0 Another potential advantage of BGP SPF is that both IPv6 and IPv4 can
=C2=A0=C2=A0 be supported in the same address family using the same topology.
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Although not described in this version of the document, multi-
=C2=A0=C2=A0 topology extensions can be used to support separate IPv4, IPv6,
=C2=A0=C2=A0 unicast, and multicast topologies while sharing the same NLRI
=20

are there plan to add more text in this area ?=20

=20
=20
=20

=20

=20

Editorial comment:=20

5.1.  Phase-1 BGP NLRI Selection
2.  If the Sequence-Number TLV is present in the BGP-LS Attribute,
       then the NLIR with the most recent, i.e., highest sequence number  >=
>>>> I assume it was NLRI
=20

=20

=20

Mankamana=20



On Apr 6, 2018, at 8:36 AM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <gunt=
er.van_de_velde@nokia.com> wrote:

=20

=20

This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 "=
 from April 6th to April 20th .

During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for =
more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.

=20

please indicate the following things:=20

=20

1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR=
 WG document?

2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the =
LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR ch=
arter?

3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?

4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additiona=
l content and technical attention?

5)            What is missing from this draft?=20

=20

For your quick access to this draft, find the link below:

=20

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/

=20

Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly =
volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:

  * Mankamana Mishra

  * Boris Hassanov

  * Jacob Uecker

=20

Kind Regards,

=20

Victor & Gunter

co-chairs LSVR WG=20

=20

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--></style></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSe=
ction1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yes/support<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Cheers,<o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Jeff</=
span><o:p></o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;p=
adding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:12.0p=
t;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>L=
svr &lt;lsvr-bounces@ietf.org&gt; on behalf of &quot;Mankamana Mishra (manka=
mis)&quot; &lt;mankamis@cisco.com&gt;<br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, April 11, 2=
018 at 07:47<br><b>To: </b>&quot;Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)&q=
uot; &lt;gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>&quot;draft-keyupat=
e-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org&quot; &lt;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org&gt;, =
Boris Hassanov &lt;bhassanov@yahoo.com&gt;, &quot;lsvr@ietf.org&quot; &lt;ls=
vr@ietf.org&gt;, Jacob Uecker &lt;juecker.ietf@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Subject: =
</b>Re: [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 (April 6 =
to April 20<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><a name=3D"_MailOriginalBody">Support th=
e adoption of document. and here are some initial comments. if there is anyt=
hing else, i would post it in list.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></a></p></div><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom=
:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'=
>1) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Support to adopt =
draft &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR WG document?<o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div></blockquote><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_Ma=
ilOriginalBody'>Yes&nbsp;<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style=3D'ma=
rgin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso=
-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you feel &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00&quot;=
 complies to the LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not confo=
rm to the LSVR charter?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Yes<br><br><o:p></o:p></=
span></p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are there any technical =
issues with this draft?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Nothing as of now which =
would prevent it to be adopted as WG document .&nbsp;<br><br><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>4) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Which are current pain-points in the =
draft requiring additional content and technical attention?<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div></blockquote><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOr=
iginalBody'>Adding some more text about case where some of the speaker not s=
upporting this specification would be good.&nbsp;<br><br><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMs=
oNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>5)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What is missing from this draf=
t?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Nothing as of now.&nbsp;<o:p=
></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_M=
ailOriginalBody'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookma=
rk:_MailOriginalBody'><b>Comment</b></span><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOr=
iginalBody'>: Section &nbsp;<a name=3Dsection-1.1></a></span><a href=3D"https://=
tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00#section-1.1"><span style=3D=
'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:"section-1\.1"'><=
b><span style=3D'color:black;text-decoration:none'>1.1</span></b></span></span=
><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:"sec=
tion-1\.1"'></span></span></a><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:"section-1\.1"'></sp=
an><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b>. BGP Shortest Path First=
 (SPF) Motivation talks about&nbsp;</b></span><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_Mai=
lOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><pre style=3D'break-before: pa=
ge;font-variant-ligatures: normal;orphans: 2;widows: 2'><span style=3D'mso-boo=
kmark:_MailOriginalBody'>=C2=A0=C2=A0 Another potential advantage of BGP SPF is that=
 both IPv6 and IPv4 can<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'mso-bookmar=
k:_MailOriginalBody'>=C2=A0=C2=A0 be supported in the same address family using the =
same topology.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOr=
iginalBody'>=C2=A0=C2=A0 Although not described in this version of the document, mul=
ti-<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'=
>=C2=A0=C2=A0 topology extensions can be used to support separate IPv4, IPv6,<o:p></=
o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>=C2=A0=C2=A0 unic=
ast, and multicast topologies while sharing the same NLRI<o:p></o:p></span><=
/pre><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'm=
so-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>are there plan to add more text in this area =
?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><h3 style=3D'mso-line-height-alt:0pt'>=
<span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></span></h3></div><div><h3 style=3D'mso-line-height-al=
t:0pt'><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:1=
1.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></span></h3></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark=
:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b><u>Editorial comment</u></=
b></span><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><u>:&nbsp;</u></span><=
span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div=
><h3><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><a name=3Dsection-5.1></a></=
span><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00#sec=
tion-5.1"><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black;text-decoration:none'>5.1</sp=
an></span><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span styl=
e=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:"Courier New"'>.&nbsp; Phase-1 BGP NLRI Selection</span></span><span style=3D=
'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></h3><pre><span style=3D'ms=
o-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>2.&nbsp; If the Sequence-Number TLV is present=
 in the BGP-LS Attribute,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style=3D'mso-bookm=
ark:_MailOriginalBody'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; then the <span s=
tyle=3D'background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow'>NLIR</span> with the most rece=
nt, i.e., highest sequence number&nbsp; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I assume it was=
 NLRI<o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-=
bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginal=
Body'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D=
'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Mankamana&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br><br><o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>On Apr 6,=
 2018, at 8:36 AM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) &lt;</span><a h=
ref=3D"mailto:gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com"><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOr=
iginalBody'>gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com</span><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_M=
ailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>&gt=
; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-book=
mark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'=
>This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf=
-00 &quot; from April 6th to April 20<sup>th</sup><span class=3Dapple-converte=
d-space>&nbsp;</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>During your discussion in the WG =
Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for more context as only a 'yeh' or 'n=
ey'.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-boo=
kmark:_MailOriginalBody'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>please indicate the foll=
owing things:<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalB=
ody'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>1) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; Support to adopt draft &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as=
 LSVR WG document?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you feel &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-sp=
f-00&quot; complies to the LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does=
 not conform to the LSVR charter?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are there any technical issue=
s with this draft?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>4) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring ad=
ditional content and technical attention?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>5)&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What is missing from =
this draft?<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBod=
y'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'ms=
o-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>For your quick access to this draft, find the =
link below:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span><a href=3D"h=
ttps://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/"><span style=3D'm=
so-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'color:#954F72'>https://datatrack=
er.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/</span></span><span style=3D'mso-b=
ookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOrigina=
lBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-=
bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Please find that duri=
ng the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly volunteered in-depth r=
eview and provide on-list comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>&nbsp; * Mankamana M=
ishra<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bo=
okmark:_MailOriginalBody'>&nbsp; * Boris Hassanov<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>&nbsp;=
 * Jacob Uecker<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Kind Regards,=
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmar=
k:_MailOriginalBody'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Victor &amp; Gunter<o:p></o:=
p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOr=
iginalBody'>co-chairs LSVR WG<span class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><=
/div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>_______=
________________________________________ Lsvr mailing list Lsvr@ietf.org htt=
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Hi,

Responses to questions:
Yes
Yes
- 5. See below

As a network operator, my focus tended to be from that frame of =
reference.=20

I had similar questions about additions to the multi topology sections =
but since that=E2=80=99s been asked and answered, there=E2=80=99s =
nothing I can add of substance.

Operationally, I=E2=80=99m interested in Section 2 - the different =
peering models and how I might go about deciding how I=E2=80=99d setup =
my LSVR peers. As stated, Section 2.1 follows peering deployment models =
show in RFC7938. It has the added advantage of coupling the physical =
link state and peering status. If we lose the link, we lose the peer and =
convergence is relatively rapid. However, it uses a lot of sessions, =
more configuration etc. So I=E2=80=99m interested in 2.2 and 2.3. =
However the stated interactions between the link state and peering state =
are =E2=80=9Caccomplished outside the scope of the document=E2=80=9D. =
That seems to me to have a big operational impact but I understand if =
it=E2=80=99s intentionally set apart for discussion somewhere else or =
left up the vendor implementation. Is that the case?

Section 5, very last sentence says =E2=80=9CApplication of policy would =
not be prevented but would normally not be necessary=E2=80=9D. What =
kinds of policy? What can I manipulate and why would I would want to? =
Maybe something for another document?=20

Thanks,
Jacob


> On Apr 6, 2018, at 8:36 AM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) =
<gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> wrote:
>=20
> =20
> This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for =
"draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 " from April 6th to April 20th .
> During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking =
for more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.
> =20
> please indicate the following things:=20
> =20
> 1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as =
LSVR WG document?
> 2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to =
the LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the =
LSVR charter?
> 3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?
> 4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring =
additional content and technical attention?
> 5)            What is missing from this draft?=20
> =20
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<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/>
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> Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons =
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>   * Mankamana Mishra
>   * Boris Hassanov
>   * Jacob Uecker
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> Kind Regards,
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12px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, =
69, 69);" class=3D"">I had similar questions about additions to the =
multi topology sections but since that=E2=80=99s been asked and =
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I=E2=80=99d setup my LSVR peers. As stated, Section 2.1 follows peering =
deployment models show in RFC7938. It has the added advantage of =
coupling the physical link state and peering status. If we lose the =
link, we lose the peer and convergence is relatively rapid. However, it =
uses a lot of sessions, more configuration etc. So I=E2=80=99m =
interested in 2.2 and 2.3. However the stated interactions between the =
link state and peering state are =E2=80=9Caccomplished outside the scope =
of the document=E2=80=9D. That seems to me to have a big operational =
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Apr 6, 2018, at 8:36 AM, Van De Velde, =
Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com" =
class=3D"">gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
Menlo-Regular; font-size: 11px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
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0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for =
"draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 " from April 6th to April 20<sup =
class=3D"">th</sup><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">During =
your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for more =
context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">please indicate the following =
things:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">1) =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Support to adopt =
draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR WG document?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the LSVR =
charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR =
charter?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; Are there any technical issues with this draft?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">4) =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Which are current =
pain-points in the draft requiring additional content and technical =
attention?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">5)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; What is missing from this draft?<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">For your =
quick access to this draft, find the link below:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/" =
style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/</=
a><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Please =
find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly =
volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp; * =
Mankamana Mishra<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp; * Boris Hassanov<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp; * Jacob Uecker<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Kind =
Regards,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
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Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">co-chairs LSVR WG<span =
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Hi,



> 1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as
> LSVR WG document?
>

yes

> 2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to
> the LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the
> LSVR charter?
>
yes

> 3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?
>
from cursory reading, no obvious issues with existing content

> 4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring
> additional content and technical attention?
>
some more detail with respect to fast convergence applications such as
LFA-FRR, TI-LFA (especially in a Clos) would be useful.

> 5)            What is missing from this draft?
>
additional material detailing deployment use cases (both intra and
inter-DC) would be useful.

Thanks,
Neeraj

>

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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Do you feel &quot;draft-keyupate=
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Working Group Name: Link State Vector Routing
Area Name: Routing Area
Session Requester: Gunter Van de Velde

Number of Sessions: 1
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Number of Attendees: 100
Conflicts to Avoid: 
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Please find a kind reminder regarding this WG Adoption call.

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Subject: [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 (April =
6 to April 20




This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 "=
 from April 6th to April 20th .

During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for =
more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.



please indicate the following things:



1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR=
 WG document?

2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the =
LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR c=
harter?

3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?

4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additiona=
l content and technical attention?

5)            What is missing from this draft?



For your quick access to this draft, find the link below:



https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/



Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly =
volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:

  * Mankamana Mishra

  * Boris Hassanov

  * Jacob Uecker



Kind Regards,



Victor & Gunter

co-chairs LSVR WG


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">G/ <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Lsvr [mailto:lsvr-bounces@ietf.org] <b>=
On Behalf Of
</b>Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 6, 2018 17:36<br>
<b>To:</b> lsvr@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Boris Hassanov &lt;bhassan=
ov@yahoo.com&gt;; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) &lt;mankamis@cisco.com&gt;; J=
acob Uecker &lt;juecker.ietf@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 =
(April 6 to April 20<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for &quot;d=
raft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 &quot; from April 6th to April 20<sup>th</sup=
> .
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, t=
he chairs are looking for more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.<o:p></o:p>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">please indicate the following things: <o:p></o:p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">1) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Support to adopt draft &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSV=
R WG document?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you feel &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00&quot; =
complies to the LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not confo=
rm to the LSVR charter?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are there any technical issues with this draft?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">4) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additional co=
ntent and technical attention?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">5)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What is missing from this draft? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">For your quick access to this draft, find the lin=
k below:
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft=
-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-ls=
vr-bgp-spf/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Please find that during the WG Adoption Call proc=
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omments:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Mankamana Mishra<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Boris Hassanov<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Jacob Uecker<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Victor &amp; Gunter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">co-chairs LSVR WG <o:p></o:p></p>
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Relaying draft review mail on behalf of Boris Hassanov regarding WG Adoptio=
n Call onto LSVR WG:

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From: Boris Hassanov [mailto:bhassanov@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 23:28
To: Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.co=
m>
Subject: Re: Review and support for the WG adoption call

Regarding draft, here are my comments (sorry for being last one), provided =
as is (may be too long...)

Firstly, I think that draft direction continues the development of very imp=
ortant work of RFC7752 that defines new NLRI for link state information and=
 new attribute so now all vendors say about BGP-LS support.

I personally fully support the idea of usage BGP as single routing protocol=
 on LSDC that is described in RFC7938 (although that would require signific=
ant level of BGP config and monitoring automation). That is required to use=
 EBGP with different (private) ASNs and make routing decision based on AS_P=
ATH. I would also add here BGP large communities (RFC8092) as additional to=
ol that could be used together with BGP in LSDC.

draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf makes one step further and tries to combine BGP=
-LS and SPF.

IMO, of course it is much better to have several variants of routing soluti=
ons for MSDCs but anyway we would compare them, so that is why I think it c=
ould be good to have comparison with RFC7938 approach.

As i understand the key moment and difference with traditional BGP- based r=
outing is modification of BGP decision process (RFC4271, degree of preferen=
ce, route selection) towards SPF-calculation.

The draft justifies that such approach will provide mutual benefits of BGP =
(TCP, no flooding, less NLRI updates) and IGP (ECMP, fast convergence, IP F=
RR) in single solution.

The draft introduces BGP-LS-SPF and BGP-LS-SPF-VPN AFI/SAFI (by the way the=
re is misprint in 3:

The BGP-LS-SPF (AF 16388 / SAFI TBD1)

SPF capability is encoded as new Node Attribute TLV.

The draft says that beauty and simplification is in modified decision proce=
ss.

Personally I would slightly re-phrase paragraph 5 (Decision process with SP=
F algorithm) to make the explanation more simple and clear. It is very impo=
rtant piece but now sounds a bit confusing.

For example, let's have a look to these 2 paragraphs:

When BGP-LS-SPF NLRI is received, all that is required is to   determine wh=
ether it is the best-path by examining the Node-ID and sequence number as d=
escribed in Section 5.1<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp=
-spf-00#section-5.1>.  If the best-path NLRI had changed, it will be advert=
ised to other BGP-LS-SPF peers.  If the attributes have changed (other than=
 the sequence number), a BGP SPF calculation will be scheduled.  However, a=
 changed best-path can be advertised to other peer immediately and propagat=
ion of changes can approach IGP convergence times.

The SPF based Decision process starts with selecting only those Node NLRI w=
hose SPF capability TLV matches with the local BGP speaker's SPF capability=
 TLV value.  Since Link-State NLRI always contains the local descriptor [RF=
C7752<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7752>], it will only be originated by =
a single BGP speaker in the BGP routing domain.  These selected Node NLRI a=
nd their Link/Prefix NLRI are used to build a directed graph during the SPF=
 computation.  The best paths for BGP prefixes are installed as result of t=
he SPF process.


IMO, the 2nd one should be new 1st, the 'old' 1st should be 2nd. Also 1st p=
aragraph above is written in the way that is confusing, IMO. 'If the  best-=
path NLRI had changed....' - why it was changed, by whom? etc.

'Changed best-path can be advertised to other peer immediately and propagat=
ion of changes can approach IGP convergence times' - I would to see here mo=
re info about how it could be accomplished, what should we do for that if i=
t is still BGP with his timers etc.


In 5.1 :"

The modified Decision Process with SPF algorithm uses the metric from Link =
and Prefix NLRI Attribute TLVs [RFC7752<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7752=
>]"

How it uses this metric? please elaborate more.


In 5.1. the draft says ' the NEXT_HOP attribute value is preserved and vali=
dated'

But in Part 5.3 :

All BGP peers that support SPF extensions would locally compute the

   NEXT_HOP values as result of the SPF process.  As a result, the

   NEXT_HOP attribute is always ignored on receipt.  However BGP

   speakers should set the NEXT_HOP address according to the NEXT_HOP

   attribute rules mentioned in [RFC4271<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc427=
1>].

Where do we tell how NEXT_HOP value is derived from SPF process?


I personally would add some simple topology as example and  show how BGP wi=
th SPF will calculate SPF and NEXT_HOP.

The last thing that I want to bring is the following: this approach would r=
equire significant modification of BGP existing stack. Did you estimate the=
 efforts for that as well as for supporting backward compatibility?

In RFC7938 we can also have sort of SPF but based on AS-PATH length, if we =
would encode link information and properties in large community, for exampl=
e, can't it be more simple (from implementation) way to do similar job?

In overall I like the direction of your thoughts and attempt to marry BGP a=
nd IGP:)

Thank you.

SY,
Boris


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From: Lsvr [mailto:lsvr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Van De Velde, Gunter=
 (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 09:29
To: lsvr@ietf.org
Cc: draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Boris Hassanov <bhassanov@yahoo.c=
om>; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) <mankamis@cisco.com>; Jacob Uecker <juecke=
r.ietf@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 (Ap=
ril 6 to April 20

Please find a kind reminder regarding this WG Adoption call.

G/

From: Lsvr [mailto:lsvr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Van De Velde, Gunter=
 (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 17:36
To: lsvr@ietf.org<mailto:lsvr@ietf.org>
Cc: draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org<mailto:draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf=
@ietf.org>; Boris Hassanov <bhassanov@yahoo.com<mailto:bhassanov@yahoo.com>=
>; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) <mankamis@cisco.com<mailto:mankamis@cisco.co=
m>>; Jacob Uecker <juecker.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:juecker.ietf@gmail.com>>
Subject: [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 (April =
6 to April 20




This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 "=
 from April 6th to April 20th .

During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for =
more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.



please indicate the following things:



1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR=
 WG document?

2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the =
LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR c=
harter?

3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?

4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additiona=
l content and technical attention?

5)            What is missing from this draft?



For your quick access to this draft, find the link below:



https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/



Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly =
volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:

  * Mankamana Mishra

  * Boris Hassanov

  * Jacob Uecker



Kind Regards,



Victor & Gunter

co-chairs LSVR WG


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Relaying draft review mail on behalf of Boris Hassan=
ov regarding WG Adoption Call onto LSVR WG:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">-------------<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Boris Hassanov [mailto:bhassanov@yahoo.=
com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 19, 2018 23:28<br>
<b>To:</b> Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) &lt;gunter.van_de_veld=
e@nokia.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Review and support for the WG adoption call<o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Regarding draft, here are my comments (sorry for =
being last one), provided as is (may be too long...)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Firstly, I think that draft direction continues t=
he development of very important work of RFC7752 that defines new NLRI for =
link state information and new attribute so now
 all vendors say about BGP-LS support.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">I personally fully support the idea of usage BGP =
as single routing protocol on LSDC that is described in RFC7938 (although t=
hat would require significant level of BGP config
 and monitoring automation). That is required to use EBGP with different (p=
rivate) ASNs and make routing decision based on AS_PATH. I would also add h=
ere BGP large communities (RFC8092) as additional tool that could be used t=
ogether with BGP in LSDC.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf makes one step furthe=
r and tries to combine BGP-LS and SPF.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">IMO, of course it is much better to have several =
variants of routing solutions for MSDCs but anyway we would compare them, s=
o that is why I think it could be good to have
 comparison with RFC7938 approach.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">As i understand the key moment and difference wit=
h traditional BGP- based routing is modification of BGP decision process (R=
FC4271, degree of preference, route selection)
 towards SPF-calculation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">The draft justifies that such approach will provi=
de mutual benefits of BGP (TCP, no flooding, less NLRI updates) and IGP (EC=
MP, fast convergence, IP FRR) in single solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
The draft introduces BGP-LS-SPF and BGP-LS-SPF-VPN AFI/SAFI (by the way the=
re is misprint in 3:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre>The BGP-LS-SPF (AF 16388 / SAFI TBD1)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">SPF capability is encoded as new Node Attribute T=
LV.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">The draft says that beauty and simplification is =
in modified decision process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Personally I would slightly re-phrase paragraph 5=
 (Decision process with SPF algorithm) to make the explanation more simple =
and clear. It is very important piece but now
 sounds a bit confusing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">For example, let's have a look to these 2 paragra=
phs:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">When BGP-LS-SPF NLRI is received, all t=
hat is required is to&nbsp;&nbsp; determine whether it is the best-path by =
examining the Node-ID and sequence number as described in <a href=3D"https:=
//tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00#section-5.1" target=3D=
"_blank">Section 5.1</a>.&nbsp; If the best-path NLRI had changed, it will =
be advertised to other BGP-LS-SPF peers.&nbsp; If the attributes have chang=
ed (other than the sequence number), a BGP SPF calculation will be schedule=
d.&nbsp; However, a changed best-path can be advertised to other peer immed=
iately and propagation of changes can approach IGP convergence times.<o:p><=
/o:p></pre>
<pre>The SPF based Decision process starts with selecting only those Node N=
LRI whose SPF capability TLV matches with the local BGP speaker's SPF capab=
ility TLV value.&nbsp; Since Link-State NLRI always contains the local desc=
riptor [<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7752" target=3D"_blank" t=
itle=3D"&quot;North-Bound Distribution of Link-State and Traffic Engineerin=
g (TE) Information Using BGP&quot;">RFC7752</a>], it will only be originate=
d by a single BGP speaker in the BGP routing domain.&nbsp; These selected N=
ode NLRI and their Link/Prefix NLRI are used to build a directed graph duri=
ng the SPF computation.&nbsp; The best paths for BGP prefixes are installed=
 as result of the SPF process.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">IMO, the 2nd one should be new 1st, the 'old' 1st=
 should be 2nd. Also 1st paragraph above is written in the way that is conf=
using, IMO. 'If the&nbsp; best-path NLRI had changed....'
 - why it was changed, by whom? etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">'Changed best-path can be advertised to other pee=
r immediately and propagation of changes can approach IGP convergence times=
' - I would to see here more info about how it
 could be accomplished, what should we do for that if it is still BGP with =
his timers etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
In 5.1 :&quot;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre>The modified Decision Process with SPF algorithm uses the metric from =
Link and Prefix NLRI Attribute TLVs [<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html=
/rfc7752" target=3D"_blank" title=3D"&quot;North-Bound Distribution of Link=
-State and Traffic Engineering (TE) Information Using BGP&quot;">RFC7752</a=
>]&quot;<o:p></o:p></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">How it uses this metric? please elaborate more.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">In 5.1. the draft says ' the NEXT_HOP attribute v=
alue is preserved and validated'&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">But in Part 5.3 :&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<pre>All BGP peers that support SPF extensions would locally compute the<o:=
p></o:p></pre>
<pre>&nbsp;&nbsp; NEXT_HOP values as result of the SPF process.&nbsp; As a =
result, the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>&nbsp;&nbsp; NEXT_HOP attribute is always ignored on receipt.&nbsp; Ho=
wever BGP<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>&nbsp;&nbsp; speakers should set the NEXT_HOP address according to the=
 NEXT_HOP<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>&nbsp;&nbsp; attribute rules mentioned in [<a href=3D"https://tools.ie=
tf.org/html/rfc4271" target=3D"_blank" title=3D"&quot;A Border Gateway Prot=
ocol 4 (BGP-4)&quot;">RFC4271</a>].<o:p></o:p></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Where do we tell how NEXT_HOP value is derived fr=
om SPF process?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">I personally would add some simple topology as ex=
ample and&nbsp; show how BGP with SPF will calculate SPF and NEXT_HOP.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">The last thing that I want to bring is the follow=
ing: this approach would require significant modification of BGP existing s=
tack. Did you estimate the efforts for that as
 well as for supporting backward compatibility?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">In RFC7938 we can also have sort of SPF but based=
 on AS-PATH length, if we would encode link information and properties in l=
arge community, for example, can't it be more
 simple (from implementation) way to do similar job?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
In overall I like the direction of your thoughts and attempt to marry BGP a=
nd IGP:)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif">SY,<br>
Boris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">---------------<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></a></p=
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0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Lsvr [mailto:lsvr-bounces@ietf.org] <b>=
On Behalf Of
</b>Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 19, 2018 09:29<br>
<b>To:</b> lsvr@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Boris Hassanov &lt;bhassan=
ov@yahoo.com&gt;; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) &lt;mankamis@cisco.com&gt;; J=
acob Uecker &lt;juecker.ietf@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf=
-00 (April 6 to April 20<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please find a kind reminder regarding this WG Adopti=
on call.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">G/ <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Lsvr [<a href=3D"mailto:lsvr-bounces@ie=
tf.org">mailto:lsvr-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 6, 2018 17:36<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:lsvr@ietf.org">lsvr@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org">draft-ke=
yupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org</a>; Boris Hassanov &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bhas=
sanov@yahoo.com">bhassanov@yahoo.com</a>&gt;; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mankamis@cisco.com">mankamis@cisco.com</a>&gt;;
 Jacob Uecker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:juecker.ietf@gmail.com">juecker.ietf@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 =
(April 6 to April 20<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for &quot;d=
raft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 &quot; from April 6th to April 20<sup>th</sup=
> .
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, t=
he chairs are looking for more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.<o:p></o:p>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">please indicate the following things: <o:p></o:p>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">1) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Support to adopt draft &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSV=
R WG document?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you feel &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00&quot; =
complies to the LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not confo=
rm to the LSVR charter?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are there any technical issues with this draft?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">4) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additional co=
ntent and technical attention?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">5)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What is missing from this draft? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">For your quick access to this draft, find the lin=
k below:
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft=
-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-ls=
vr-bgp-spf/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Please find that during the WG Adoption Call proc=
ess, three persons kindly volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list c=
omments:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Mankamana Mishra<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Boris Hassanov<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Jacob Uecker<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Victor &amp; Gunter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">co-chairs LSVR WG <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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I support making this a WG document.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:00 PM, <lsvr-request@ietf.org> wrote:

> Send Lsvr mailing list submissions to
>         lsvr@ietf.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>         https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>         lsvr-request@ietf.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>         lsvr-owner@ietf.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Lsvr digest..."
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>    1. Re: WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00
>       (April 6 to April 20 (Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp))
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" <
> gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>
> To: "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
> Cc: "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org" <
> draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org>, Boris Hassanov <bhassanov@yahoo.com>,
> "Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)" <mankamis@cisco.com>, Jacob Uecker <
> juecker.ietf@gmail.com>
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2018 07:29:28 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00
> (April 6 to April 20
>
> Please find a kind reminder regarding this WG Adoption call.
>
>
>
> G/
>
>
>
> *From:* Lsvr [mailto:lsvr-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Van De Velde,
> Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
> *Sent:* Friday, April 6, 2018 17:36
> *To:* lsvr@ietf.org
> *Cc:* draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Boris Hassanov <
> bhassanov@yahoo.com>; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) <mankamis@cisco.com>;
> Jacob Uecker <juecker.ietf@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00
> (April 6 to April 20
>
>
>
>
>
> This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00
> " from April 6th to April 20th .
>
> During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for
> more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.
>
>
>
> please indicate the following things:
>
>
>
> 1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as
> LSVR WG document?
>
> 2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to
> the LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the
> LSVR charter?
>
> 3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?
>
> 4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring
> additional content and technical attention?
>
> 5)            What is missing from this draft?
>
>
>
> For your quick access to this draft, find the link below:
>
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/
>
>
>
> Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly
> volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:
>
>   * Mankamana Mishra
>
>   * Boris Hassanov
>
>   * Jacob Uecker
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Victor & Gunter
>
> co-chairs LSVR WG
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lsvr mailing list
> Lsvr@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I support making this a WG document.<br><div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:00 =
PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lsvr-request@ietf.org" target=
=3D"_blank">lsvr-request@ietf.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex">Send Lsvr mailing list submissions to<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:lsvr@ietf.org">lsvr@ietf.org<=
/a><br>
<br>
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinf=
o/lsvr" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/<=
wbr>listinfo/lsvr</a><br>
or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:lsvr-request@ietf.org">lsvr-r=
equest@ietf.org</a><br>
<br>
You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:lsvr-owner@ietf.org">lsvr-own=
er@ietf.org</a><br>
<br>
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
than &quot;Re: Contents of Lsvr digest...&quot;<br>
<br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Re: WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (April 6 to April 20 (Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE=
/Antwerp))<br>
<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From:=C2=A0&quot;Van De =
Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gunter.van_d=
e_velde@nokia.com">gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com</a>&gt;<br>To:=C2=A0&quot;=
<a href=3D"mailto:lsvr@ietf.org">lsvr@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:lsvr@ietf.org">lsvr@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>Cc:=C2=A0&quot;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org">draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.or=
g</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org">dra=
ft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org</a>&gt;, Boris Hassanov &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:bhassanov@yahoo.com">bhassanov@yahoo.com</a>&gt;, &quot;Mankamana Mish=
ra (mankamis)&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mankamis@cisco.com">mankamis@cisc=
o.com</a>&gt;, Jacob Uecker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:juecker.ietf@gmail.com">j=
uecker.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Bcc:=C2=A0<br>Date:=C2=A0Thu, 19 Apr 2018 =
07:29:28 +0000<br>Subject:=C2=A0Re: [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyup=
ate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 (April 6 to April 20<br>





<div link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72" lang=3D"EN-US">
<div class=3D"m_-80502659474503928WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please find a kind reminder regarding this WG Adopti=
on call.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">G/ <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"m_-80502659474503928__MailEndCompose"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></a></p>
<span></span>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Lsvr [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:lsvr-bou=
nces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">lsvr-bounces@ietf.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 6, 2018 17:36<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:lsvr@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">lsvr@ietf.org=
</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org" target=
=3D"_blank">draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@<wbr>ietf.org</a>; Boris Hassanov &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bhassanov@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">bhassanov@yahoo=
.com</a>&gt;; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mankamis@ci=
sco.com" target=3D"_blank">mankamis@cisco.com</a>&gt;; Jacob Uecker &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:juecker.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">juecker.ietf@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 =
(April 6 to April 20<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">This begins a 2 week WG Adopt=
ion Call for &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-<wbr>00 &quot; from April 6t=
h to April 20<sup>th</sup> .
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">During your discussion in the=
 WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for more context as only a &#39;y=
eh&#39; or &#39;ney&#39;.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">please indicate the following=
 things: <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">1) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Support to adopt draft &quot;draft-keyupate-=
lsvr-bgp-spf-<wbr>00 as LSVR WG document?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">2)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Do you feel &quot;draft-keyupate-ls=
vr-bgp-spf-<wbr>00&quot; complies to the LSVR charter, please explain if yo=
u think it does not conform to the LSVR charter?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Are there any technical issues with=
 this draft?
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">4) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Which are current pain-points in the draft r=
equiring additional content and technical attention?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">5)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 What is missing from this draft? <u=
></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">For your quick access to this=
 draft, find the link below:
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://datatracke=
r.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/" target=3D"_blank">https://data=
tracker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-<wbr>spf/</a><u></u><u></=
u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">Please find that during the W=
G Adoption Call process, three persons kindly volunteered in-depth review a=
nd provide on-list comments:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 * Mankamana Mishra<u><=
/u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 * Boris Hassanov<u></u=
><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 * Jacob Uecker<u></u><=
u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">Kind Regards,<u></u><u></u></=
p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">Victor &amp; Gunter<u></u><u>=
</u></p>
<p class=3D"m_-80502659474503928MsoPlainText">co-chairs LSVR WG <u></u><u><=
/u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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Hi,

I support the adoption of this draft.

Thanks,
Yingzhen

On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:36 AM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <
gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> wrote:

>
>
> This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00
> " from April 6th to April 20th .
>
> During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for
> more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.
>
>
>
> please indicate the following things:
>
>
>
> 1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as
> LSVR WG document?
>
> 2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to
> the LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the
> LSVR charter?
>
> 3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?
>
> 4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring
> additional content and technical attention?
>
> 5)            What is missing from this draft?
>
>
>
> For your quick access to this draft, find the link below:
>
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/
>
>
>
> Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly
> volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:
>
>   * Mankamana Mishra
>
>   * Boris Hassanov
>
>   * Jacob Uecker
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Victor & Gunter
>
> co-chairs LSVR WG
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I support the adoption of this draf=
t.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Yingzhen</div></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 8:3=
6 AM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com" target=3D"_blank">gunter.van_de=
_velde@nokia.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72">
<div class=3D"m_8155011180093646319WordSection1">
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">This begins a 2 week WG Adop=
tion Call for &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-<wbr>00 &quot; from April 6=
th to April 20<sup>th</sup> .
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">During your discussion in th=
e WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for more context as only a &#39;=
yeh&#39; or &#39;ney&#39;.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">please indicate the followin=
g things: <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">1) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Support to adopt draft &quot;draft-keyupate-=
lsvr-bgp-spf-<wbr>00 as LSVR WG document?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">2)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Do you feel &quot;draft-keyupate=
-lsvr-bgp-spf-<wbr>00&quot; complies to the LSVR charter, please explain if=
 you think it does not conform to the LSVR charter?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Are there any technical issues w=
ith this draft?
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">4) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Which are current pain-points in the draft r=
equiring additional content and technical attention?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">5)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 What is missing from this draft?=
 <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">For your quick access to thi=
s draft, find the link below:
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://datatrack=
er.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/" target=3D"_blank">https://dat=
atracker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-<wbr>spf/</a><u></u><u><=
/u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">Please find that during the =
WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly volunteered in-depth review =
and provide on-list comments:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 * Mankamana Mishra<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 * Boris Hassanov<u></=
u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 * Jacob Uecker<u></u>=
<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">Kind Regards,<u></u><u></u><=
/p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">Victor &amp; Gunter<u></u><u=
></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_8155011180093646319MsoPlainText">co-chairs LSVR WG <u></u><u>=
</u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>

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From: Boris Hassanov <bhassanov@yahoo.com>
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 Hi all,

1) Yes, I support WG adoption of draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf
2) Yes, I think it complies
3-5) Gunter forwarded my comments=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

Thanks.

SY,
Boris

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more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.
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            <div>Hi all,<br><div><br><div>1) Yes, I support WG adoption of <span>draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf<br></span><div><span>2) Yes, I think it complies<br></span></div><div>3-5) <span>Gunter </span><span>forwarded </span>my comments&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><div><div><br><div>Thanks.<br><div><br><div>SY,<br>Boris<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div>
            
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                        On Friday, April 6, 2018, 6:36:14 PM GMT+3, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) &lt;gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com&gt; wrote:
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<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText"> &nbsp;</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 " from April 6th to April 20<sup>th</sup> .
</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText"> &nbsp;</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">please indicate the following things: </p> 
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<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">1) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR WG document?</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR charter?</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are there any technical issues with this draft?
</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">4) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additional content and technical attention?</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">5)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What is missing from this draft? </p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText"> &nbsp;</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">For your quick access to this draft, find the link below:
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<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText"><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/</a></p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText"> &nbsp;</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Mankamana Mishra</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Boris Hassanov</p> 
<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Jacob Uecker</p> 
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<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">Kind Regards,</p> 
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<p class="ydpd43a20beyiv3660759386MsoPlainText">Victor &amp; Gunter</p> 
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I support adoption of draft-keypuate-lsv-bgp-spf-00.txt.

 

Over the last 15 years, I have observed several operational prototypes
utilizing similar techniques.   The decision process mechanism described are
the outgrowth of some of these mechanisms. 

 

This draft stands on the shoulders on excellent technology (mentioned in
normative references, and information resources). The IDR drafts mentioned
are reaching mature states.

 

During the WG discussions, may I suggest the WG should be discuss in more
depth:

a)      the normal versus strict algorithms to determine how these will
interact in deployment, 

b)      sequence number mechanisms and failure modes (cold starts, errors,
and non-cold starts), 

c)       impact of speed differences and massive scale on convergence - to
determine if any standardization needs to be done during initial release, or
subsequent to initial releases, 

d)      the critical nature of getting failure notification (see section
5.5) to the decision process quickly

 

For the authors, there are a few typos 

Section 5.1, list item 2 page 9, "NLIR" - I think should be NLRI. 

Section 5.5, sentence 1 "requirment" should be requirement. 

Section 7.2 Title - Contributors - should be Contributors. 

 

Susan Hares

 


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Hi Van,

I support WG adoption of this draft.

Thanks
-Pushpasis


On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 9:06 PM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <
gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> wrote:

>
>
> This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00
> " from April 6th to April 20th .
>
> During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for
> more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.
>
>
>
> please indicate the following things:
>
>
>
> 1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as
> LSVR WG document?
>
> 2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to
> the LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the
> LSVR charter?
>
> 3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?
>
> 4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring
> additional content and technical attention?
>
> 5)            What is missing from this draft?
>
>
>
> For your quick access to this draft, find the link below:
>
>
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/
>
>
>
> Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly
> volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:
>
>   * Mankamana Mishra
>
>   * Boris Hassanov
>
>   * Jacob Uecker
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Van,<div><br></div><div>I support WG adoption of this d=
raft.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>-Pushpasis</div><div>=
<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 9:06 PM, Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com" target=
=3D"_blank">gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72">
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<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">This begins a 2 week WG Adop=
tion Call for &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-<wbr>00 &quot; from April 6=
th to April 20<sup>th</sup> .
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">During your discussion in th=
e WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for more context as only a &#39;=
yeh&#39; or &#39;ney&#39;.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">please indicate the followin=
g things: <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">1) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Support to adopt draft &quot;draft-keyupate-=
lsvr-bgp-spf-<wbr>00 as LSVR WG document?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">2)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Do you feel &quot;draft-keyupate=
-lsvr-bgp-spf-<wbr>00&quot; complies to the LSVR charter, please explain if=
 you think it does not conform to the LSVR charter?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">3)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Are there any technical issues w=
ith this draft?
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">4) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Which are current pain-points in the draft r=
equiring additional content and technical attention?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">5)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 What is missing from this draft?=
 <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">For your quick access to thi=
s draft, find the link below:
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://datatrack=
er.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/" target=3D"_blank">https://dat=
atracker.ietf.org/<wbr>doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-<wbr>spf/</a><u></u><u><=
/u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">Please find that during the =
WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly volunteered in-depth review =
and provide on-list comments:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 * Mankamana Mishra<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 * Boris Hassanov<u></=
u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">=C2=A0 * Jacob Uecker<u></u>=
<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">Kind Regards,<u></u><u></u><=
/p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">Victor &amp; Gunter<u></u><u=
></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_2867847222986616337MsoPlainText">co-chairs LSVR WG <u></u><u>=
</u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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To aid the WG chairs, let me answer their questions as well 

1.      Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR WG
document? Yes - (see below for why) 

2.      Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the LSVR
charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR
charter?  complies to LSVR charter 

3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft? 

During the WG discussions, may I suggest the WG should be discuss in more
depth:

a)      the normal versus strict algorithms to determine how these will
interact in deployment, 

b)      sequence number mechanisms and failure modes (cold starts, errors,
and non-cold starts), 

c)       impact of speed differences and massive scale on convergence - to
determine if any standardization needs to be done during initial release, or
subsequent to initial releases, 

d)      the critical nature of getting failure notification (see section
5.5) to the decision process quickly

 

4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additional
content and technical attention?

See #3 

5)            What is missing from this draft? 

Answers to #3 should be added to draft.  Deployment info should also be
added.  

Cheerily, 

Susan 

 

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Subject: [Lsvr] Support for adoption of draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00.txt

 

I support adoption of draft-keypuate-lsv-bgp-spf-00.txt.

 

Over the last 15 years, I have observed several operational prototypes
utilizing similar techniques.   The decision process mechanism described are
the outgrowth of some of these mechanisms. 

 

This draft stands on the shoulders on excellent technology (mentioned in
normative references, and information resources). The IDR drafts mentioned
are reaching mature states.

 

During the WG discussions, may I suggest the WG should be discuss in more
depth:

a)      the normal versus strict algorithms to determine how these will
interact in deployment, 

b)      sequence number mechanisms and failure modes (cold starts, errors,
and non-cold starts), 

c)       impact of speed differences and massive scale on convergence - to
determine if any standardization needs to be done during initial release, or
subsequent to initial releases, 

d)      the critical nature of getting failure notification (see section
5.5) to the decision process quickly

 

For the authors, there are a few typos 

Section 5.1, list item 2 page 9, "NLIR" - I think should be NLRI. 

Section 5.5, sentence 1 "requirment" should be requirement. 

Section 7.2 Title - Contributors - should be Contributors. 

 

Susan Hares

 


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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3Dm2867847222986616337msoplaintext>To aid the WG chairs, let me =
answer their questions as well&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dm2867847222986616337msoplaintext =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3DLTR></span>Support to adopt draft =
&quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR WG document? Yes &#8211; =
(see below for why) <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dm2867847222986616337msoplaintext =
style=3D'margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3DLTR></span>Do you feel =
&quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00&quot; complies to the LSVR charter, =
please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR charter? =
&nbsp;complies to LSVR charter <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dm2867847222986616337msoplaintext>3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are there any technical issues with =
this draft? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>During the WG =
discussions, may I suggest the WG should be discuss in more =
depth:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3DLTR></span>the normal versus strict =
algorithms to determine how these will interact in deployment, =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3DLTR></span>sequence number =
mechanisms and failure modes (cold starts, errors, and non-cold starts), =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>c)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3DLTR></span>impact of speed =
differences and massive scale on convergence &#8211; to determine if any =
standardization needs to be done during initial release, or subsequent =
to initial releases, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>d)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3DLTR></span>the critical nature of =
getting failure notification (see section 5.5) to the decision process =
quickly<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dm2867847222986616337msoplaintext><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3Dm2867847222986616337msoplaintext>4) =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Which are current =
pain-points in the draft requiring additional content and technical =
attention?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dm2867847222986616337msoplaintext>See =
#3 <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dm2867847222986616337msoplaintext>5)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What is missing from this draft? =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3Dm2867847222986616337msoplaintext>Answers to #3 =
should be added to draft.&nbsp; Deployment info should also be added. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Cheerily, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Susan =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Lsvr [mailto:lsvr-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan =
Hares<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 21, 2018 10:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Lsvr@ietf.org<br><b>Cc:</b> keyur@arrcus.com; 'Acee Lindem (acee)'; 'Van =
De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Lsvr] Support =
for adoption of =
draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00.txt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I support =
adoption of draft-keypuate-lsv-bgp-spf-00.txt.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Over the =
last 15 years, I have observed several operational prototypes utilizing =
similar techniques. &nbsp;&nbsp;The decision process mechanism described =
are the outgrowth of some of these mechanisms. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This draft =
stands on the shoulders on excellent technology (mentioned in normative =
references, and information resources). The IDR drafts mentioned are =
reaching mature states.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>During the =
WG discussions, may I suggest the WG should be discuss in more =
depth:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3DLTR></span>the normal versus strict =
algorithms to determine how these will interact in deployment, =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3DLTR></span>sequence number =
mechanisms and failure modes (cold starts, errors, and non-cold starts), =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>c)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3DLTR></span>impact of speed =
differences and massive scale on convergence &#8211; to determine if any =
standardization needs to be done during initial release, or subsequent =
to initial releases, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo5'><![if =
!supportLists]><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>d)<span =
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span><![endif]><span dir=3DLTR></span>the critical nature of =
getting failure notification (see section 5.5) to the decision process =
quickly<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>For the authors, there are a few typos =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Section 5.1, list item 2 page 9, =
&#8220;NLIR&#8221; &#8211; I think should be NLRI. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Section 5.5, sentence 1 &#8220;requirment&#8221; =
should be requirement. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Section 7.2 =
Title &#8211; Contributors &#8211; should be Contributors. =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Susan Hares<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>
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The WG Adoption call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 completed 20 April =
2018.
Document "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf" has been adopted.  The authors shoul=
d submit this draft as "draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-00.txt".

Kind Regards,
G/
(Co-chair LSVR WG)


From: Lsvr [mailto:lsvr-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Van De Velde, Gunter=
 (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 09:29
To: lsvr@ietf.org
Cc: draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Boris Hassanov <bhassanov@yahoo.c=
om>; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) <mankamis@cisco.com>; Jacob Uecker <juecke=
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Subject: Re: [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 (Ap=
ril 6 to April 20

Please find a kind reminder regarding this WG Adoption call.

G/

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@ietf.org>; Boris Hassanov <bhassanov@yahoo.com<mailto:bhassanov@yahoo.com>=
>; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) <mankamis@cisco.com<mailto:mankamis@cisco.co=
m>>; Jacob Uecker <juecker.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:juecker.ietf@gmail.com>>
Subject: [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 (April =
6 to April 20




This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 "=
 from April 6th to April 20th .

During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, the chairs are looking for =
more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.



please indicate the following things:



1)           Support to adopt draft "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSVR=
 WG document?

2)            Do you feel "draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00" complies to the =
LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not conform to the LSVR c=
harter?

3)            Are there any technical issues with this draft?

4)           Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additiona=
l content and technical attention?

5)            What is missing from this draft?



For your quick access to this draft, find the link below:



https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/



Please find that during the WG Adoption Call process, three persons kindly =
volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list comments:

  * Mankamana Mishra

  * Boris Hassanov

  * Jacob Uecker



Kind Regards,



Victor & Gunter

co-chairs LSVR WG


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The WG Adoption call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf=
-00 completed 20 April 2018.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Document &#8220;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf&#8221; h=
as been adopted.&nbsp; The authors should submit this draft as &#8220;draft=
-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-00.txt&#8221;.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">G/<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(Co-chair LSVR WG)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Lsvr [mailto:lsvr-bounces@ietf.org] <b>=
On Behalf Of
</b>Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 19, 2018 09:29<br>
<b>To:</b> lsvr@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Boris Hassanov &lt;bhassan=
ov@yahoo.com&gt;; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) &lt;mankamis@cisco.com&gt;; J=
acob Uecker &lt;juecker.ietf@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf=
-00 (April 6 to April 20<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please find a kind reminder regarding this WG Adopti=
on call.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">G/ <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Lsvr [<a href=3D"mailto:lsvr-bounces@ie=
tf.org">mailto:lsvr-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 6, 2018 17:36<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:lsvr@ietf.org">lsvr@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org">draft-ke=
yupate-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org</a>; Boris Hassanov &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bhas=
sanov@yahoo.com">bhassanov@yahoo.com</a>&gt;; Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mankamis@cisco.com">mankamis@cisco.com</a>&gt;;
 Jacob Uecker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:juecker.ietf@gmail.com">juecker.ietf@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Lsvr] WG Adoption Call for draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 =
(April 6 to April 20<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for &quot;d=
raft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 &quot; from April 6th to April 20<sup>th</sup=
> .
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">During your discussion in the WG Adoption Call, t=
he chairs are looking for more context as only a 'yeh' or 'ney'.<o:p></o:p>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">please indicate the following things: <o:p></o:p>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">1) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Support to adopt draft &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00 as LSV=
R WG document?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Do you feel &quot;draft-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf-00&quot; =
complies to the LSVR charter, please explain if you think it does not confo=
rm to the LSVR charter?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">3)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Are there any technical issues with this draft?
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">4) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; Which are current pain-points in the draft requiring additional co=
ntent and technical attention?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">5)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What is missing from this draft? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">For your quick access to this draft, find the lin=
k below:
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft=
-keyupate-lsvr-bgp-spf/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-keyupate-ls=
vr-bgp-spf/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Please find that during the WG Adoption Call proc=
ess, three persons kindly volunteered in-depth review and provide on-list c=
omments:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Mankamana Mishra<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Boris Hassanov<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp; * Jacob Uecker<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Victor &amp; Gunter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">co-chairs LSVR WG <o:p></o:p></p>
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