From nobody Tue Oct 1 10:38:43 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lsvr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lsvr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A781208CB for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 10:38:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.477 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.477 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.172, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2ld-ZbdDYX8r for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 10:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot1-f43.google.com (mail-ot1-f43.google.com [209.85.210.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE247120883 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f43.google.com with SMTP id 67so12312525oto.3 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jFqmtE/Rwu8jfI+YAiIz82DqKkNePjE+r5VZNmCtD/s=; b=H3e0brkyetxhfPyCbsXrOyN56kBsuFoZeOKZ0vaDJ36SfvTi6ycm++xvo2NCrMHVkP Tlu0At7DB+nkNxBgjfuAWl73Z6tbwpNy3xsLQAYARNMlXwK6/RRw1lIJqGOeSBzogPAw F2raat+EnO1cMuiAFxzvQombhEM1FMXv4IzEIrXGP+5FSzElVr9OhzYydJ1i8E7Pcv76 Z83eCIfon87z9WM/0EowW5VtsdGC/psX4ojsUr2ZHccqUbZlTSWppgXkpErBsoGunkkU kRG6Qd4uFfnq7K3Zzk0ZpTy0BJS+RPp1yMqH52kJ4/bUscBQ7l4emKI7ZFg2Q+c39JIw aTJw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWKbbTiaSMcccTi/Alqnl3SLDfkePBxEkehWXSgdbIhPhaFPG6O u6oubpUJ/wRZ4L0Vjc29eCk83lDLBOwRlxA6KyA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwtM5ADTkO9+Qt2pS35DuM2RF77gS5CE56pbTaxjJhHFbdkvYQdlm1r8ojCKQO7ZTk7OdSAQED4QXuyOD4B6UY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1292:: with SMTP id z18mr19717363otp.7.1569951511941; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 10:38:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: matt@mattanderson.net From: Matt Anderson Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 10:38:21 -0700 Message-ID: To: Satish Mynam Cc: "lsvr@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002f156d0593dcd258" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October 7, 2019) X-BeenThere: lsvr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Link State Vector Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 17:38:42 -0000 --0000000000002f156d0593dcd258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I read v05 before, and appreciate the v06 updates regarding the Node Status TLV and mechanism to exclude a node from transit. I support the draft for the flexibility it gives to existing MSDCs with RFC 7938-like deployments to improve scale and convergence performance, as well as to greenfield scenarios where an functional alternative to an IGP is being considered. On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 6:52 PM Satish Mynam wrote: > I support the draft as it helps in the Dense CLOS and MSDC Data Center > Topologies with the additional NLRI and SPF algorithm in BGP best-path > Decision. > > > > Thanks, > > Satish > > > > > > Bhav Par Tue, 24 September 2019 17:23 UTCShow header > > > I support this draft. > > > > thanks, > > Bhavani > > > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 8:53 PM Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)= < > > gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> ; wrote: > > > > > [corrected date typo] > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > The LSVR WG starts a fresh working group last call for =E2=80=9Cdraft-i= etf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05=E2=80=9D. Please send your comments to the list before = Monday October 7. > > > > > > (This is a 2nd WGLC following first WGLC 3-17 December 2018) > > > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Authors, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of any relevan= t IPR. > > > > > > All, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of an implementati= on. > > > > > > > > > > > > Brgds, > > > > > > Gunter & Victor > > > > > > LSVR WG co-chairs > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Lsvr mailing list > > > Lsvr@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lsvr mailing list > Lsvr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr > --=20 Matt --0000000000002f156d0593dcd258 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I read v05 before, and appreciate = the v06 updates regarding the Node Status TLV and mechanism to exclude a no= de from transit.

I= support the draft for the flexibility it gives to existing MSDCs with RFC = 7938-like deployments to improve scale and convergence performance, as well= as to greenfield scenarios where an functional alternative to an IGP is be= ing considered.=C2=A0


On Fri, Sep 27,= 2019 at 6:52 PM Satish Mynam <sat= ishm@arrcus.com> wrote:

I support the draft as it helps in the= Dense CLOS and MSDC Data Center Topologies with the additional NLRI and = =C2=A0SPF algorithm in =C2=A0BGP best-path Decision.

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--0000000000002f156d0593dcd258-- From nobody Tue Oct 1 11:16:10 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lsvr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lsvr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645AB12003E for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 11:16:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Improper folded header field made up entirely of whitespace (char 20 hex): Subject: ...-lsvr-bgp-spf-06 and draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl-02\n X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.477 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.477 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.172, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LBbPcaTATdeX for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 11:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ot1-f54.google.com (mail-ot1-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 166E1120018 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2019 11:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f54.google.com with SMTP id 60so2472793otu.0 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:16:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=BOmUPOJFs8rqdpklmRIjZtQwwdiz6KEQyVXdGVM2GAs=; b=SpUGS2TUk5Do1TwNdwnm/haNZuDONZhwcROrlD0UCiNC4LNRzFlntrPHbxLjUVArSU vB47gvD5tXZnKThz838sJoXq0oqBUwnsB1WhAECJFuxR7Ilnqqzxdx0u3Czfaj5OAGwc eNeRLcA4qXBFU6y1sXbn32RmNsTiLemLkiy3wV3fIWKLfFr2/2CwcrX63wvxAOWDhQDS Dj2wxCXejOqRBPiKCv5rn6oeVBOtg9bvgdZylUF4r9+emXlQfHGRnukZxU+7h+0Z+NoN aMtTUu5MUDp7PkaFKtaRzRXEqxStTeN5LFjJk4xUew2iO+N4K7r3CCW2zmMU7aj6XS6f 2QoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXyA8946GyusUL6dWXAfgcnZ0mTcP3f583i9p82AilxHBjOu+1Q AjCbSaqJpkoW25iPw7iXf3nVTzu9MbLhFGTQ3Hf8XYWb X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyiCNLVBKPndQLa9qgcn3ma5Zd9y77lY2CN12jt56c7jnLwWCKbI2SWtpvGIHzUirIB0F19ryxEqCfFyeR+XXQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1292:: with SMTP id z18mr19845747otp.7.1569953765980; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 11:16:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: matt@mattanderson.net From: Matt Anderson Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 11:15:54 -0700 Message-ID: To: "lsvr@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000008901340593dd5837" Archived-At: Subject: [Lsvr] Minor fixes for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-06 and draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl-02 X-BeenThere: lsvr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Link State Vector Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 18:16:08 -0000 --0000000000008901340593dd5837 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Proofreading notes from reading these drafts. draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-06 - section 2.2 - =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6 there will be the same unnumber of sess= ions=E2=80=9D should read =E2=80=9Cnumber=E2=80=9D. - section 3.0 - =E2=80=9CAF 16388=E2=80=9D probably should read =E2=80=9CAF= I=E2=80=9D - section 4.2.1 - =E2=80=9CLink NLIR endpoint prefixes and 1-128 for IPv6= =E2=80=9D should read =E2=80=9CNLRI=E2=80=9D - section 8.1 - =E2=80=9Cconfiguratio=E2=80=9D missing an =E2=80=99n=E2=80= =99 draft-ietf-lsvr-l3dl-02 - section 3 - =E2=80=9Cwidrawal=E2=80=9D should be =E2=80=9Cwithdrawal=E2= =80=9D - section 18.1 - Need to add a word or two after =E2=80=9Cinterfaces=E2=80= =9D to fix the grammar, or elsewhere in the sentence. =E2=80=9CTherefore, on multi-link interfaces MUST continue to send HELLOs as long as they are turned up.=E2= =80=9D --0000000000008901340593dd5837 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Proofreading notes from reading these drafts.

draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-sp= f-06
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- section 4.2.1 - =E2=80=9CLink NLIR endpoint prefixes and 1-128 for= IPv6=E2=80=9D should read =E2=80=9CNLRI=E2=80=9D
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- section 18.1 - Need to add a word or two after = =E2=80=9Cinterfaces=E2=80=9D to fix the grammar, or elsewhere in the senten= ce. =C2=A0=E2=80=9CTherefore, on multi-link interfaces MUST continue to sen= d HELLOs as long as they are turned up.=E2=80=9D

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I wanted to understand what is the exact difference between the values 1 and 2. Just to clarify my doubt let's consider a prefix P that is only originated by node N. Now what will be the reachability of prefix P in the two scenarios (first with SPF Status TLV value set to 1 vs with SPF Status TLV value set to 2). Will P be unreachable in both cases? My understanding is it should still be reachable when the value is set to 2. If my understanding is correct, then perhaps we need more clarifications on the following text.. especially for the case there is no next link from this node. "If the current Node NLRI attributes includes the SPF status TLV (Section 4.1.2) and the status indicates that the Node doesn't support transit, the next link for the current node is processed." If the P is unreachable in the later case too (value set to 2), then I don't see what is the difference between using the values 1 and 2. Thanks -Pushpasis On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, we are planning on > defining an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI analogous to the o= ne > defined for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node Attribute TLV, the > status would have an additional value indicating the node should not be > used for transit traffic. > > > > 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved > > 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to BG= P SPF > > 2 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit with = respect > to BGP SPF > > 3-254 =E2=80=93 Undefined > > 255 =E2=80=93 Reserved > > > > Comments? > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > > > *From: *Lsvr on behalf of Acee Lindem < > acee@cisco.com> > *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM > *To: *Pushpasis Sarkar > *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < > lsvr@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Pushpasis, > > This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS-IS O bit are basically the same functionality. > The node is not used for transit but is used for local prefixes. > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > *From: *Pushpasis Sarkar > *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < > lsvr@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Chaitanya and Acee, > > > > How about the 'O' bit in Node-Flag-Bits TLV defined in RFC 7752 section > 3.3.1.1? I suppose the node can set the 'O' bit when it wants to take > itself out from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related to > the scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. But I suppos= e > we can use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well. > > > > Thanks > > -Pushpasis > > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote= : > > Hi Chaitanya, > > I think this is a good idea and will discuss with my co-authors. > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > *From: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" > *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM > *To: *Acee Lindem , "lsvr@ietf.org" > *Subject: *RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Correct like a R-Bit. > > > > I have read this draft and I support it. > > > > Thanks, > > Chaitanya > > > > > > This communication may contain information that is privileged, or > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any > dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the > sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from hi= s > or her computer. > > > > > > > > *From:* Acee Lindem (acee) > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM > *To:* YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA ; lsvr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Chaitanya, > > > > Exactly what do you mean by node cost out and what use case are you tryin= g > to satisfy. If a node wants to remove itself from the topology, it can > simply withdraw its link NLRI. However, are you looking for a mechanism > similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute? > > > > R-bit > > This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is an > > active router. If the router bit is clear, then routes that > > transit the advertising node cannot be computed. Clearing the > > router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants > > to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non- > > locally addressed packets. > > > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Lsvr on behalf of "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" > > *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM > *To: *"lsvr@ietf.org" > *Subject: *[Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Authors, > > The draft does not explicitly call out mechanisms for node cost out. It > would be good to call out mechanisms to cost out a node explicitly. > > > > Thanks, > > Chaitanya > > > > > > *Chaitanya Yadlapalli* > > Network Infrastructure And Services > > > > *AT&T Services, Inc.* > > 200 S Laurel Ave, Middletown, NJ 07722 > > o 732.420.7977 | cy098d@att.com > > > > This communication may contain information that is privileged, or > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any > dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the > sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from hi= s > or her computer. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lsvr mailing list > Lsvr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr > > --00000000000032fba10593de6f28 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Acee= ,=C2=A0

Just saw the latest version of the draft. I want= ed=C2=A0to understand what is the exact difference between the values 1 and= 2. Just to clarify my doubt let's consider a prefix P that is only ori= ginated by node N. Now what will be the reachability of prefix P in the two= scenarios (first with SPF Status TLV value set to 1 vs with SPF Status TLV= value set to 2). Will P be unreachable in both cases? My understanding is = it should=C2=A0still be reachable when the value is set to 2.=C2=A0

If my understanding is correct, then perhaps we need more= clarifications on the following text.. especially for the case there is no= next link from this node.

"If the c= urrent Node NLRI attributes includes the SPF status

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 TLV (Section 4.1.2) and the status indicates that the Node

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 doesn't support transit, the next link for the cur= rent node is

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0processed.= "

If the P is unreachable in the later case too (value set to 2), = then I don't see what is the difference between using the values 1 and = 2.

Thanks
-Pushpasis






<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Sun, Sep= 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, w= e are planning on defining an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI an= alogous to the one defined for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node At= tribute TLV, the status would have an additional value indicating the node should not be used for transit tra= ffic.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to BGP S= PF

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A02 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit wit= h respect to BGP SPF

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A03-254 =E2=80=93 Un= defined

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= 255 =E2=80=93 Reserved

=C2=A0

Comments?

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org>= ; on behalf of Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Pushpasis, =

This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS= -IS O bit are basically the same functionality. The node is not used for tr= ansit but is used for local prefixes.

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0

From: Pushpasis Sarkar <= pushpasis.iet= f@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Chaitanya and Acee,

=C2=A0

How about the 'O' bit in Node-Flag-B= its TLV defined in RFC 7752 section 3.3.1.1? I suppose the node can set the= 'O' bit when it wants to take itself out from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related to the = scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. But I suppose we c= an use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Thanks

-Pushpasis

=C2=A0

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <<= a href=3D"mailto:acee@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">acee@cisco.com> w= rote:

Hi Chaitanya,

I think this is a good idea an= d will discuss with my co-authors.

Thanks,
Acee

=C2=A0

= From: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Correct like a = R-Bit.

=C2=A0

I have read this draft and I support it.

=C2=A0

Thanks,<= u>

Chaitanya

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Thi= s communication may contain information that is privileged, or confidential= . If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any dissemination= , distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.=C2=A0 Anyone who receives this messa= ge in error should notify the sender immediately by telephone or by return = e-mail and delete it from his or her computer.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM
To: YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA <cy098d@att.com>; lsvr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Chaitanya,

=C2=A0

Exactly what do you mean by no= de cost out and what use case are you trying to satisfy. If a node wants to= remove itself from the topology, it can simply withdraw its link NLRI. How= ever, are you looking for a mechanism similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute?=

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0 R-bit

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is an

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= active router.=C2=A0 If the router bit is clear, then routes that

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= transit the advertising node cannot be computed.=C2=A0 Clearing the=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non-=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= locally addressed packets.

=C2=A0

Thanks,
Acee

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

= From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA&quo= t; <cy098d@att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM
To: "lsvr@ie= tf.org" <lsv= r@ietf.org>
Subject: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Authors,

The draft does not explicitly = call out mechanisms for node cost out. It would be good to call out mechani= sms to cost out a node explicitly.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Chaitanya=

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Chaitanya Yadlapalli

Network Infrastr= ucture And Services=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0

AT&T Services, Inc.

200 S Laurel Ave= , Middletown, NJ 07722

o=C2=A0 732.420.7977=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 cy098d@att.com

=C2=A0

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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have read and support the draft. Mazen Khaddam Senior Principal Lead Network Architect - Network Scientist My role: resolve ambiguity, focus creativity, and simplify complexity Network Engineering & Architecture Office: 404-269-7730 --_000_SN6PR01MB4110C6A070903F420289F9ECFC9D0SN6PR01MB4110prod_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have read and support the draft. 

Mazen Khaddam
Senior Principal Lead Network Architect - Network Scientist 
My role: resolve ambiguity, focus creativity, and simplify = complexity
Network Engineering & Architecture
Office: 404-269-7730  


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<0A1F41E2-AC1E-4724-A8B6-DE855088FDF4@cisco.com> <1B89E943-C2D0-41C9-B8FE-17CA7F0240EA@cisco.com> <0ED4311E-0D67-401F-BB18-B34865174DB4@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <0ED4311E-0D67-401F-BB18-B34865174DB4@cisco.com> From: Pushpasis Sarkar Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:11:40 +0530 Message-ID: To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a95ee50593e7c3cd" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf X-BeenThere: lsvr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Link State Vector Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2019 06:41:57 -0000 --000000000000a95ee50593e7c3cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Acee, Thanks for the clarification. Looks good to me. Best regards, -Pushpasis On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 6:10 AM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Pushpasis, > > > > *From: *Pushpasis Sarkar > *Date: *Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 3:34 PM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < > lsvr@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Acee, > > > > Just saw the latest version of the draft. I wanted to understand what is > the exact difference between the values 1 and 2. Just to clarify my doubt > let's consider a prefix P that is only originated by node N. Now what wil= l > be the reachability of prefix P in the two scenarios (first with SPF Stat= us > TLV value set to 1 vs with SPF Status TLV value set to 2). Will P be > unreachable in both cases? My understanding is it should still be reachab= le > when the value is set to 2. > > > > If my understanding is correct, then perhaps we need more clarifications > on the following text.. especially for the case there is no next link fro= m > this node. > > > > "If the current Node NLRI attributes includes the SPF status > > TLV (Section 4.1.2) and the status indicates that the Node > > doesn't support transit, the next link for the current node is > > processed." > > > > If the P is unreachable in the later case too (value set to 2), then I > don't see what is the difference between using the values 1 and 2. > > > > In this case, the current node is not unreachable as we=E2=80=99ve alread= y taken > it off the candidate list and processed the local prefixes. Optionally, t= he > interface addresses on the current node have also been installed. At this > point, we are simply not using any of the links in the SPF graph which wi= ll > have the effect of preventing transit traffic. > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > Thanks > > -Pushpasis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: > > After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, we are planning on > defining an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI analogous to the o= ne > defined for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node Attribute TLV, the > status would have an additional value indicating the node should not be > used for transit traffic. > > > > 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved > > 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to BG= P SPF > > 2 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit with = respect > to BGP SPF > > 3-254 =E2=80=93 Undefined > > 255 =E2=80=93 Reserved > > > > Comments? > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > > > *From: *Lsvr on behalf of Acee Lindem < > acee@cisco.com> > *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM > *To: *Pushpasis Sarkar > *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < > lsvr@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Pushpasis, > > This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS-IS O bit are basically the same functionality. > The node is not used for transit but is used for local prefixes. > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > *From: *Pushpasis Sarkar > *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < > lsvr@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Chaitanya and Acee, > > > > How about the 'O' bit in Node-Flag-Bits TLV defined in RFC 7752 section > 3.3.1.1? I suppose the node can set the 'O' bit when it wants to take > itself out from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related to > the scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. But I suppos= e > we can use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well. > > > > Thanks > > -Pushpasis > > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote= : > > Hi Chaitanya, > > I think this is a good idea and will discuss with my co-authors. > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > *From: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" > *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM > *To: *Acee Lindem , "lsvr@ietf.org" > *Subject: *RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Correct like a R-Bit. > > > > I have read this draft and I support it. > > > > Thanks, > > Chaitanya > > > > > > This communication may contain information that is privileged, or > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any > dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the > sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from hi= s > or her computer. > > > > > > > > *From:* Acee Lindem (acee) > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM > *To:* YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA ; lsvr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Chaitanya, > > > > Exactly what do you mean by node cost out and what use case are you tryin= g > to satisfy. If a node wants to remove itself from the topology, it can > simply withdraw its link NLRI. However, are you looking for a mechanism > similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute? > > > > R-bit > > This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is an > > active router. If the router bit is clear, then routes that > > transit the advertising node cannot be computed. Clearing the > > router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants > > to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non- > > locally addressed packets. > > > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Lsvr on behalf of "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" > > *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM > *To: *"lsvr@ietf.org" > *Subject: *[Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Authors, > > The draft does not explicitly call out mechanisms for node cost out. It > would be good to call out mechanisms to cost out a node explicitly. > > > > Thanks, > > Chaitanya > > > > > > *Chaitanya Yadlapalli* > > Network Infrastructure And Services > > > > *AT&T Services, Inc.* > > 200 S Laurel Ave, Middletown, NJ 07722 > > o 732.420.7977 | cy098d@att.com > > > > This communication may contain information that is privileged, or > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any > dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the > sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from hi= s > or her computer. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lsvr mailing list > Lsvr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr > > --000000000000a95ee50593e7c3cd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Acee,

Thanks for the clarification. = Looks good to me.

Best regards,
-Pushpas= is


On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 6:10 AM Acee Lindem (acee) &l= t;acee@cisco.com> wrote:
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Hi Pushpasis,

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From: Pushpasis Sarkar <= pushpasis.iet= f@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 3:34 PM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

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Hi Acee,=C2=A0

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Just saw the latest vers= ion of the draft. I wanted=C2=A0to understand what is the exact difference = between the values 1 and 2. Just to clarify my doubt let's consider a p= refix P that is only originated by node N. Now what will be the reachability of prefix P in the two scenarios (first with= SPF Status TLV value set to 1 vs with SPF Status TLV value set to 2). Will= P be unreachable in both cases? My understanding is it should=C2=A0still b= e reachable when the value is set to 2.=C2=A0

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If my understanding is c= orrect, then perhaps we need more clarifications on the following text.. es= pecially for the case there is no next link from this node.

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"If the current Node NLRI attributes includes the SPF status=

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TLV (Section 4.1.2) and the st= atus indicates that the Node

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0processed."

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If the P is unreachable in the later case = too (value set to 2), then I don't see what is the difference between u= sing the values 1 and 2.

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In this case, the current node is not unreachable as= we=E2=80=99ve already taken it off the candidate list and processed the lo= cal prefixes. Optionally, the interface addresses on the current node have = also been installed. At this point, we are simply not using any of the links in the SPF graph which will have the eff= ect of preventing transit traffic.

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Thanks,

Acee

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Thanks<= u>

-Pushpasis

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On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at = 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, we are planning on defin= ing an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI analogous to the one defi= ned for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node Attribute TLV, the status= would have an additional value indicating the node should not be used for transit traffic. =

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Comments?

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Thanks,

Acee

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From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Acee Li= ndem <acee@cisco.com= >
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

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Hi Pushpasis,

This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS-IS O bit are basically the same functionality. The= node is not used for transit but is used for local prefixes.

Thanks,

Acee

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From: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

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Hi Chaitanya and A= cee,

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How about the '= ;O' bit in Node-Flag-Bits TLV defined in RFC 7752 section 3.3.1.1? I su= ppose the node can set the 'O' bit when it wants to take itself out= from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related to the scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. Bu= t I suppose we can use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well.=C2=A0<= /u>

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Thanks

-Pushpasis<= u>

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On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 P= M Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Chaitanya,

I think this is a good idea an= d will discuss with my co-authors.

Thanks,
Acee

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= From: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

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Correct like a = R-Bit.

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I have read this draft and I support it.

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Thanks,<= u>

Chaitanya

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From: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM
To: YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA <cy098d@att.com>; lsvr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

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Hi Chaitanya,

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Exactly what do you mean by no= de cost out and what use case are you trying to satisfy. If a node wants to= remove itself from the topology, it can simply withdraw its link NLRI. How= ever, are you looking for a mechanism similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute?=

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=C2=A0=C2=A0 R-bit

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is an

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= active router.=C2=A0 If the router bit is clear, then routes that

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= transit the advertising node cannot be computed.=C2=A0 Clearing the=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non-=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= locally addressed packets.

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Thanks,
Acee

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= From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA&quo= t; <cy098d@att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM
To: "lsvr@ie= tf.org" <lsv= r@ietf.org>
Subject: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

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Hi Authors,

The draft does not explicitly = call out mechanisms for node cost out. It would be good to call out mechani= sms to cost out a node explicitly.

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Thanks,

Chaitanya=

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Subject: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October 7= , 2019)

 

[corrected date typo]

 

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I have read this dra= ft and fully support it.

thanks
Nabeel


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To: lsvr@ietf.org=
Cc: 'Victor Kuarsingh' <victor@jvknet.com>; draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.or= g
Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-03 (to end December 17, 20= 18)

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Hi All,
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The LSVR WG starts a working group last call for =E2=80=9C=
draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-03=E2=80=9D. Please se=
nd your comments to the list before Monday December 17.
https://datatracker=
.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf/

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Authors, please reply indicating if you're aware of any relev=
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Brgds,


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Use-cases in applicability document does not cover this and would like to also understand how this can be used CLOS and non-CLOS/FAT-tree topology. Thanks Santosh P K On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 6:10 AM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Pushpasis, > > > > *From: *Pushpasis Sarkar > *Date: *Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 3:34 PM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < > lsvr@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Acee, > > > > Just saw the latest version of the draft. I wanted to understand what is > the exact difference between the values 1 and 2. Just to clarify my doubt > let's consider a prefix P that is only originated by node N. Now what wil= l > be the reachability of prefix P in the two scenarios (first with SPF Stat= us > TLV value set to 1 vs with SPF Status TLV value set to 2). Will P be > unreachable in both cases? My understanding is it should still be reachab= le > when the value is set to 2. > > > > If my understanding is correct, then perhaps we need more clarifications > on the following text.. especially for the case there is no next link fro= m > this node. > > > > "If the current Node NLRI attributes includes the SPF status > > TLV (Section 4.1.2) and the status indicates that the Node > > doesn't support transit, the next link for the current node is > > processed." > > > > If the P is unreachable in the later case too (value set to 2), then I > don't see what is the difference between using the values 1 and 2. > > > > In this case, the current node is not unreachable as we=E2=80=99ve alread= y taken > it off the candidate list and processed the local prefixes. Optionally, t= he > interface addresses on the current node have also been installed. At this > point, we are simply not using any of the links in the SPF graph which wi= ll > have the effect of preventing transit traffic. > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > Thanks > > -Pushpasis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: > > After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, we are planning on > defining an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI analogous to the o= ne > defined for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node Attribute TLV, the > status would have an additional value indicating the node should not be > used for transit traffic. > > > > 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved > > 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to BG= P SPF > > 2 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit with = respect > to BGP SPF > > 3-254 =E2=80=93 Undefined > > 255 =E2=80=93 Reserved > > > > Comments? > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > > > *From: *Lsvr on behalf of Acee Lindem < > acee@cisco.com> > *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM > *To: *Pushpasis Sarkar > *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < > lsvr@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Pushpasis, > > This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS-IS O bit are basically the same functionality. > The node is not used for transit but is used for local prefixes. > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > *From: *Pushpasis Sarkar > *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM > *To: *Acee Lindem > *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < > lsvr@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Chaitanya and Acee, > > > > How about the 'O' bit in Node-Flag-Bits TLV defined in RFC 7752 section > 3.3.1.1? I suppose the node can set the 'O' bit when it wants to take > itself out from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related to > the scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. But I suppos= e > we can use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well. > > > > Thanks > > -Pushpasis > > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote= : > > Hi Chaitanya, > > I think this is a good idea and will discuss with my co-authors. > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > *From: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" > *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM > *To: *Acee Lindem , "lsvr@ietf.org" > *Subject: *RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Correct like a R-Bit. > > > > I have read this draft and I support it. > > > > Thanks, > > Chaitanya > > > > > > This communication may contain information that is privileged, or > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any > dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the > sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from hi= s > or her computer. > > > > > > > > *From:* Acee Lindem (acee) > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM > *To:* YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA ; lsvr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Chaitanya, > > > > Exactly what do you mean by node cost out and what use case are you tryin= g > to satisfy. If a node wants to remove itself from the topology, it can > simply withdraw its link NLRI. However, are you looking for a mechanism > similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute? > > > > R-bit > > This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is an > > active router. If the router bit is clear, then routes that > > transit the advertising node cannot be computed. Clearing the > > router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants > > to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non- > > locally addressed packets. > > > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Lsvr on behalf of "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" > > *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM > *To: *"lsvr@ietf.org" > *Subject: *[Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Authors, > > The draft does not explicitly call out mechanisms for node cost out. It > would be good to call out mechanisms to cost out a node explicitly. > > > > Thanks, > > Chaitanya > > > > > > *Chaitanya Yadlapalli* > > Network Infrastructure And Services > > > > *AT&T Services, Inc.* > > 200 S Laurel Ave, Middletown, NJ 07722 > > o 732.420.7977 | cy098d@att.com > > > > This communication may contain information that is privileged, or > confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any > dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly > prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the > sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from hi= s > or her computer. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lsvr mailing list > Lsvr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr > > _______________________________________________ > Lsvr mailing list > Lsvr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr > --000000000000b1fe56059402a371 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 If R-bit or H-bit functionality is = being introduced then wanted to know should you not callout for use case he= re? Use-cases in applicability document does not cover this and would like = to also understand how this can be used CLOS and non-CLOS/FAT-tree topology= .=C2=A0
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On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 6:10 A= M Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Pushpasis,

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From: Pushpasis Sarkar <= pushpasis.iet= f@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 3:34 PM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

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Hi Acee,=C2=A0

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Just saw the latest vers= ion of the draft. I wanted=C2=A0to understand what is the exact difference = between the values 1 and 2. Just to clarify my doubt let's consider a p= refix P that is only originated by node N. Now what will be the reachability of prefix P in the two scenarios (first with= SPF Status TLV value set to 1 vs with SPF Status TLV value set to 2). Will= P be unreachable in both cases? My understanding is it should=C2=A0still b= e reachable when the value is set to 2.=C2=A0

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If my understanding is c= orrect, then perhaps we need more clarifications on the following text.. es= pecially for the case there is no next link from this node.

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If the P is unreachable in the later case = too (value set to 2), then I don't see what is the difference between u= sing the values 1 and 2.

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In this case, the current node is not unreachable as= we=E2=80=99ve already taken it off the candidate list and processed the lo= cal prefixes. Optionally, the interface addresses on the current node have = also been installed. At this point, we are simply not using any of the links in the SPF graph which will have the eff= ect of preventing transit traffic.

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Thanks,

Acee

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-Pushpasis

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On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at = 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, we are planning on defin= ing an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI analogous to the one defi= ned for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node Attribute TLV, the status= would have an additional value indicating the node should not be used for transit traffic. =

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Acee

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From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Acee Li= ndem <acee@cisco.com= >
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

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Hi Pushpasis,

This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS-IS O bit are basically the same functionality. The= node is not used for transit but is used for local prefixes.

Thanks,

Acee

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From: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com> Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

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Hi Chaitanya and A= cee,

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How about the '= ;O' bit in Node-Flag-Bits TLV defined in RFC 7752 section 3.3.1.1? I su= ppose the node can set the 'O' bit when it wants to take itself out= from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related to the scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. Bu= t I suppose we can use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well.=C2=A0<= /u>

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Thanks

-Pushpasis<= u>

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On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 P= M Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Chaitanya,

I think this is a good idea an= d will discuss with my co-authors.

Thanks,
Acee

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= From: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

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Correct like a = R-Bit.

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I have read this draft and I support it.

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Thanks,<= u>

Chaitanya

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Thi= s communication may contain information that is privileged, or confidential= . If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any dissemination= , distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.=C2=A0 Anyone who receives this messa= ge in error should notify the sender immediately by telephone or by return = e-mail and delete it from his or her computer.=C2=A0

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From: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM
To: YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA <cy098d@att.com>; lsvr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

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Hi Chaitanya,

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Exactly what do you mean by no= de cost out and what use case are you trying to satisfy. If a node wants to= remove itself from the topology, it can simply withdraw its link NLRI. How= ever, are you looking for a mechanism similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute?=

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=C2=A0=C2=A0 R-bit

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is an

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= active router.=C2=A0 If the router bit is clear, then routes that

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= transit the advertising node cannot be computed.=C2=A0 Clearing the=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non-=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= locally addressed packets.

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Thanks,
Acee

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= From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA&quo= t; <cy098d@att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM
To: "lsvr@ie= tf.org" <lsv= r@ietf.org>
Subject: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Authors,

The draft does not explicitly = call out mechanisms for node cost out. It would be good to call out mechani= sms to cost out a node explicitly.

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Thanks,

Chaitanya=

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Chaitanya Yadlapalli

Network Infrastr= ucture And Services=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

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AT&T Services, Inc.

200 S Laurel Ave= , Middletown, NJ 07722

o=C2=A0 732.420.7977=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 cy098d@att.com

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<1DBF92B2-D384-4071-9156-B20795F099AB@cisco.com> <0A1F41E2-AC1E-4724-A8B6-DE855088FDF4@cisco.com> <1B89E943-C2D0-41C9-B8FE-17CA7F0240EA@cisco.com> <0ED4311E-0D67-401F-BB18-B34865174DB4@cisco.com> <5E9B33AF-9310-4E91-BB4B-D6AFF1FABD99@arrcus.com> X-Readdle-Message-ID: 49a1a165-35e3-48f9-b8e8-b78c06303682@Spark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="5d96367e_2dfbcb8c_2a6" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf X-BeenThere: lsvr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Link State Vector Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2019 17:57:27 -0000 --5d96367e_2dfbcb8c_2a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Keyur, RR (or route server in eBGP case) don't reset the NH so if they are not i= n the forwarding path, traffic will never go through them anyway (and you= don=E2=80=99t want inconsistent connectivity graph just because you happ= en to run RR on one of the devices in path). Much more realistic use case would be traffic draining, where, before you= go into maintenance, you=E2=80=99d like to divert as much traffic as pos= sible (all transit). Cheers, Jeff On Oct 3, 2019, 10:19 AM -0700, Keyur Patel , wrote: > Hi Santosh, > > We can add the use case in the applicability draft. This bit could be u= sed when you have a RR/Controller based peering model in CLOS (where RR/C= ontrollers are not in the forwarding path). You may want RR/Controller to= announce its reachability using H-bit so that they are not being used as= a transit. > > Regards, > Keyur > > =46rom: Lsvr on behalf of Santosh P K > Date: Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 7:46 AM > To: =22Acee Lindem (acee)=22 > Cc: Pushpasis Sarkar , =22YADLAPALLI, CHAIT= ANYA=22 , =22lsvr=40ietf.org=22 > Subject: Re: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > Resent-=46rom: > > All, > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 If R-bit or H-bit functionality is being introduced then = wanted to know should you not callout for use case here=3F Use-cases in a= pplicability document does not cover this and would like to also understa= nd how this can be used CLOS and non-CLOS/=46AT-tree topology.. > > > Thanks > Santosh P K > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 6:10 AM Acee Lindem (acee) wr= ote: > > Hi Pushpasis, > > > > =46rom: Pushpasis Sarkar > > Date: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 3:34 PM > > To: Acee Lindem > > Cc: =22YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA=22 , =22lsvr=40ietf.or= g=22 > > Subject: Re: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > Hi Acee, > > > > Just saw the latest version of the draft. I wanted=C2=A0to understand= what is the exact difference between the values 1 and 2. Just to clarify= my doubt let's consider a prefix P that is only originated by node N. No= w what will be the reachability of prefix P in the two scenarios (first w= ith SP=46 Status TLV value set to 1 vs with SP=46 Status TLV value set to= 2). Will P be unreachable in both cases=3F My understanding is it should= =C2=A0still be reachable when the value is set to 2. > > > > If my understanding is correct, then perhaps we need more clarificati= ons on the following text.. especially for the case there is no next link= from this node. > > > > =22If the current Node NLRI attributes includes the SP=46 status > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TLV (Section 4.1.2) and the status= indicates that the Node > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 doesn't support transit, the next = link for the current node is > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0processed.=22 > > > > If the P is unreachable in the later case too (value set to 2), then = I don't see what is the difference between using the values 1 and 2. > > > > In this case, the current node is not unreachable as we=E2=80=99ve al= ready taken it off the candidate list and processed the local prefixes. O= ptionally, the interface addresses on the current node have also been ins= talled. At this point, we are simply not using any of the links in the SP= =46 graph which will have the effect of preventing transit traffic. > > > > Thanks, > > Acee > > > > Thanks > > -Pushpasis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > > > After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, we are planning = on defining an SP=46 Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI analogous to = the one defined for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node Attribute T= LV, the status would have an additional value indicating the node should = not be used for transit traffic. > > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to BGP SP=46 > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A02 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit with respect to BGP= SP=46 > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A03-254 =E2=80=93 Undefined > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 255 =E2=80=93 R= eserved > > > > > > Comments=3F > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Acee > > > > > > > > > =46rom: Lsvr on behalf of Acee Lindem > > > Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM > > > To: Pushpasis Sarkar > > > Cc: =22YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA=22 , =22lsvr=40ietf.= org=22 > > > Subject: Re: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > > > Hi Pushpasis, > > > This OSP=46v3 R Bit and IS-IS O bit are basically the same function= ality. The node is not used for transit but is used for local prefixes. > > > Thanks, > > > Acee > > > > > > =46rom: Pushpasis Sarkar > > > Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM > > > To: Acee Lindem > > > Cc: =22YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA=22 , =22lsvr=40ietf.= org=22 > > > Subject: Re: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > > > Hi Chaitanya and Acee, > > > > > > How about the 'O' bit in Node-=46lag-Bits TLV defined in R=46C 7752= section 3.3.1.1=3F I suppose the node can set the 'O' bit when it wants = to take itself out from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more rel= ated to the scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. But = I suppose we can use that for BGP-LS-SP=46 as well. > > > > > > Thanks > > > -Pushpasis > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > > > > Hi Chaitanya, > > > > I think this is a good idea and will discuss with my co-authors. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Acee > > > > > > > > =46rom: =22YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA=22 > > > > Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM > > > > To: Acee Lindem , =22lsvr=40ietf.org=22 > > > > Subject: RE: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > > > > > Correct like a R-Bit. > > > > > > > > I have read this draft and I support it. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chaitanya > > > > > > > > > > > > This communication may contain information that is privileged, or= confidential.. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that a= ny dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strict= ly prohibited.=C2=A0 Anyone who receives this message in error should not= ify the sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it= from his or her computer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =46rom: Acee Lindem (acee) > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM > > > > To: YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA ; lsvr=40ietf.org > > > > Subject: Re: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > > > > > Hi Chaitanya, > > > > > > > > Exactly what do you mean by node cost out and what use case are y= ou trying to satisfy. If a node wants to remove itself from the topology,= it can simply withdraw its link NLRI. However, are you looking for a mec= hanism similar to the OSP=46v3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SP=46 Attribute=3F > > > > > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 R-bit > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 This bit (the =60Router' bit) indi= cates whether the originator is an > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 active router.=C2=A0 If the router= bit is clear, then routes that > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 transit the advertising node canno= t be computed.=C2=A0 Clearing the > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 router bit would be appropriate fo= r a multi-homed host that wants > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 to participate in routing, but doe= s not want to forward non- > > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 locally addressed packets. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Acee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =46rom: Lsvr on behalf of =22YADLAPALLI= , CHAITANYA=22 > > > > Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM > > > > To: =22lsvr=40ietf.org=22 > > > > Subject: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf > > > > > > > > Hi Authors, > > > > The draft does not explicitly call out mechanisms for node cost o= ut. It would be good to call out mechanisms to cost out a node explicitly= . > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chaitanya > > > > > > > > > > > > Chaitanya Yadlapalli > > > > Network Infrastructure And Services > > > > > > > > AT&T Services, Inc. > > > > 200 S Laurel Ave, Middletown, NJ 07722 > > > > o=C2=A0 732.420.7977=C2=A0 =7C=C2=A0 cy098d=40att.com > > > > > > > > This communication may contain information that is privileged, or= confidential.. 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Keyur,

RR (or route server in eBGP case) don't reset the N= H so if they are not in the forwarding path, traffic will never go throug= h them anyway (and you don=E2=80=99t want inconsistent connectivity graph= just because you happen to run RR on one of the devices in path).
Much more realistic use case would be traffic drain= ing, where, before you go into maintenance, you=E2=80=99d like to divert = as much traffic as possible (all transit).

Cheers,
Jeff
On Oct 3, 2019, 10:19 AM -0700, Key= ur Patel <keyur=40arrcus.com>, wrote:

Hi Santosh,

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We can add the use case in the applicability d= raft. This bit could be used when you have a RR/Controller based peering = model in CLOS (where RR/Controllers are not in the forwarding path). You = may want RR/Controller to announce its reachability using H-bit so that t= hey are not being used as a transit.

&=23160;

Regards,

Keyur

&=23160;

=46rom: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces=40ietf.org> on behalf of Santosh P K <santos= h.pallagatti=40gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 7:46 AM
To: =22Acee Lindem (acee)=22 <acee=40cisco.com>
Cc: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf=40gmail.com>, =22YADLAP= ALLI, CHAITANYA=22 <cy098d=40att.com>, =22lsvr=40ietf.org=22 <ls= vr=40ietf.org>
Subject: Re: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf
Resent-=46rom: <keyur=40arrcus.com>

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All,

&=23160; &=23160; If R-bit or H-bit functional= ity is being introduced then wanted to know should you not callout for us= e case here=3F Use-cases in applicability document does not cover this an= d would like to also understand how this can be used CLOS and non-CLOS/=46= AT-tree topology..&=23160;

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&=23160;

Thanks

Santosh P= K&=23160;&=23160;

&=23160;

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 6:10 AM Acee Lindem (ac= ee) <acee=40cisco.com> = wrote:

Hi Pushpasis,

&=23160;

=46rom: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf=40gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 3:34 PM
To: Acee Lindem <acee=40cisco.com>
Cc: =22YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA=22 <cy098d=40att.com>, =22lsvr=40ietf.org=22= <lsvr=40= ietf.org>
Subject: Re: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf

&=23160;

Hi Acee,&=23160;

&=23160;

Just saw the latest version of the dr= aft. I wanted&=23160;to understand what is the exact difference between t= he values 1 and 2. Just to clarify my doubt let's consider a prefix P tha= t is only originated by node N. Now what will be the reachability of pref= ix P in the two scenarios (first with SP=46 Status TLV value set to 1 vs = with SP=46 Status TLV value set to 2). Will P be unreachable in both case= s=3F My understanding is it should&=23160;still be reachable when the val= ue is set to 2.&=23160;

&=23160;

If my understanding is correct, then = perhaps we need more clarifications on the following text.. especially fo= r the case there is no next link from this node.

&=23160;

=22If the current Node NLRI attributes includes the SP=46 = status

&=23160; &=23160; &=23160; &=23160; &=2316= 0; TLV (Section 4.1.2) and the status indicates that the Node

&=23160; &=23160; &=23160; &=23160; &=2316= 0; doesn't support transit, the next link for the current node is<= /p>

&=23160; &=23160; &=23160; &=23160; &=23160;&=23160;processed.= =22

&=23160;

If the P is unreachable in the later = case too (value set to 2), then I don't see what is the difference betwee= n using the values 1 and 2.

&=23160;

In this case, the current node is not unreachable as w= e=E2=80=99ve already taken it off the candidate list and processed the lo= cal prefixes. Optionally, the interface addresses on the current node hav= e also been installed. At this point, we are simply not using any of the = links in the SP=46 graph which will have the effect of preventing transit= traffic.

&=23160;

Thanks,

Acee

&=231= 60;

Thanks

-Pushpasis

&=23160;

&=23160;

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&=23160;

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&=23160;

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM Acee= Lindem (acee) <acee=40cisco.com> wrote:

After discussion with my co-authors a= nd Pushpasis, we are planning on defining an SP=46 Status TLV for the Nod= e Attribute NLRI analogous to the one defined for Links and Prefixes. How= ever, for the Node Attribute TLV, the status would have an additional val= ue indicating the node should not be used for transit traffic.

&=23160;

&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=231= 60;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=2316= 0;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160= ;&=23160;&=23160; 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved

&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=231= 60;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=2316= 0;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160= ;&=23160;&=23160; 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to BGP SP=46<= /p>

&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=231= 60;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=2316= 0;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160= ;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;2 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit with r= espect to BGP SP=46

&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=231= 60;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=2316= 0;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;3-254 =E2=80=93 Undefined

&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=231= 60;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=2316= 0;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160; 255 =E2=80=93 = Reserved

&=23160;

Comments=3F

&=23160;

Thanks,

Acee

&=23160;

&=23160;

=46rom: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces=40ietf.org> on behalf of Acee Linde= m <ace= e=40cisco.com>
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf=40gmail.com>
= Cc: =22YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA=22 <cy098d=40att.com>, =22lsvr=40ietf.org=22= <lsvr=40= ietf.org>
Subject: Re: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf

&=23160;

Hi Pushpasis,

This OSP=46v3 R Bit and IS-IS O bit = are basically the same functionality. The node is not used for transit bu= t is used for local prefixes.

Thanks,

Acee

&=23160;

=46rom: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf=40gmail.com>
= Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee=40cisco.com>
Cc: =22YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA=22 <cy098d=40att.com>, =22lsvr=40ietf.org=22= <lsvr=40= ietf.org>
Subject: Re: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf

&=23160;

Hi Chaitanya and Acee,

&=23= 160;

How about the 'O' bit in Node-=46lag= -Bits TLV defined in R=46C 7752 section 3.3.1.1=3F I suppose the node can= set the 'O' bit when it wants to take itself out from all transit paths.= I know the 'O' bit is more related to the scenario when ISIS topology is= being exported in BGP-LS. But I suppose we can use that for BGP-LS-SP=46= as well.&=23160;

&=23= 160;

Thanks

-Pushpasis

&=23160;

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (ace= e) <ac= ee=40cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Chaitanya,

I think this is a good idea and will discuss wit= h my co-authors.

Thanks,
Acee

&=23160;

=46rom: =22YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA=22 <cy098d=40att.com>
= Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee=40cisco.com>, =22lsvr=40ietf.org=22 <lsvr=40ietf.org&= gt;
Subject: RE: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf

&=23160;

Correct like a R-Bit.

&=23160;

I have read this draft and I support it.

&=23160;

Thanks,

Chaitanya

&=23160;

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&=23160;

&=23160;

=46rom: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee=40cisco.com>=
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM
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&=23160;

Hi Chaitanya,

&=23160;

Exactly what do you mean by node cost out and wh= at use case are you trying to satisfy. If a node wants to remove itself f= rom the topology, it can simply withdraw its link NLRI. However, are you = looking for a mechanism similar to the OSP=46v3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SP=46= Attribute=3F

&=23160;

&=23160;&=23160; R-bit

&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160; This bi= t (the =60Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is an

&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160; active = router.&=23160; If the router bit is clear, then routes that

&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160; transit= the advertising node cannot be computed.&=23160; Clearing the

=

&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160; router = bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants

&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160; to part= icipate in routing, but does not want to forward non-

&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160;&=23160; locally= addressed packets.

&=23160;

Thanks,
Acee

&=23160;

&=23160;

&=23160;

&=23160;

=46rom: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces=40ietf.org> on behalf of =22= YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA=22 <cy098d=40att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM
To: =22lsvr=40ietf.org=22 <lsvr=40ietf.org>
Subject: =5BLsvr=5D Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf<= /p>

&=23160;

Hi Authors,

The draft does not explicitly call out mechanism= s for node cost out. It would be good to call out mechanisms to cost out = a node explicitly.

&=23160;

Thanks,

Chaitanya

&=23160;

&=23160;

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([2600:8801:880:3f6:f5ad:be4:ef6a:7b78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a8sm8943745pfa.182.2019.10.04.12.18.10 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Oct 2019 12:18:11 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) From: Jacob Uecker In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 12:18:09 -0700 Cc: Victor Kuarsingh , "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0376FDD5-BFAB-4BAC-9E89-15AA79FD2246@gmail.com> References: <581466F5-5291-478D-92E7-FEEE6FFB4EAD@arrcus.com> To: "lsvr@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October 7, 2019) X-BeenThere: lsvr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Link State Vector Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 19:18:14 -0000 I have read and support this draft.=20 I also plan on investigating the Arrcus implementation=20 Thanks, Jacob Uecker >> From: "Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)" = >> Date: Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 8:53 PM >> To: "lsvr@ietf.org" >> Cc: Victor Kuarsingh , = "draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org" >> Subject: WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October 7, 2019)=20= >> [corrected date typo] >> =20 >> Hi All, >> =20 >> The LSVR WG starts a fresh working group last call for = =E2=80=9Cdraft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05=E2=80=9D. Please send your comments = to the list before Monday October 7. >> (This is a 2nd WGLC following first WGLC 3-17 December 2018)=20 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf/ >> =20 >> Authors, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of any = relevant IPR. >> All, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of an = implementation. >> =20 >> Brgds, >> Gunter & Victor >> LSVR WG co-chairs >> =20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Lsvr mailing list >> Lsvr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Lsvr mailing list > Lsvr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr From nobody Sat Oct 5 11:38:46 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lsvr@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: lsvr@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252EB120890 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 11:38:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.748 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.748 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OiteBB2yeh0a for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 11:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io1-xd35.google.com (mail-io1-xd35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3F4F120104 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 2019 11:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io1-xd35.google.com with SMTP id n197so20412155iod.9 for ; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 11:38:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ch1wao5T9WJnbBMWoUAC8m6mtSNDFmvx38y68z3ssDk=; b=IoGVyRs46DTIQwq7Bzpy5W2udJuu6lkguBYfztLuTEjmRSTyV2wGAnNLlibmCqpfcV hXDg7Mby0msYPmRXyVVZDXpS2Hbgi2aV9VIu03sdnL4gERueTuhIDDLLIZpAdmE/isUS BUGrcJteniHZH3sng/CMubIsavzMoqXeKPqs30BHR60ZEg9LKY+m8DxPsbOD0mwszJaN XcS4y4qWrSUCsxj5tQPymNxUAKuX4lvPdIlYfLz87aIrLwGbYMCrwluTZgT/Dx4yMY+P KwTW2l9snCqHtl04omhYTEwbQX/w7Mvi9Gl5LyfR8z0alqDZTqxVSuvsFYS5kc72r8HU BQtw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ch1wao5T9WJnbBMWoUAC8m6mtSNDFmvx38y68z3ssDk=; b=J23amiImI8ntMF/A9r+3KtbUSXvgV14e1zMTc+QM9E7elxgSZd2bvXhYWtYyha53US FpS8LrHutKaSYdkND2g7CnF/jdEou9bdzYPV+gyj48gYPrrQnEjkUxPoxwSzeaH8rqdV AKuoj+rUHdKmg7d4yPoCVb33sCTURIgsLpjctlZTujkehl+aV3tOut7tTUH7KYzYAYSV t4N2vpHAzDv/fFAi7au+X01J58RAF3TolZY+9nY9e5yaj7+6Oz6qhgOey4yfkv1Z5ze1 +7pgAirzSnsoLXxszvd/dwFkRtHs7om9qlZPuG17Sn3ki2dDrQUUYC3uMyOslhzcAmc5 iHcA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXmiUa0ZpxhCSn85B4wYOA95rn3X/2BfNjo7s6A+/I/2bvpGgye g0j6IkmJLQ4I7FKDoicTx8BWONXxaAPSFpQHmjoE7Zw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyP3K9koWSRIF4BjMaEfKPzc7tS9lQ/jJzM6pemuOwgpKpuoynB/Z3xOhb6xcaS/JAXVpCmEU3F0ugalJVdEJ0= X-Received: by 2002:a92:d806:: with SMTP id y6mr10997657ilm.22.1570300722810; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 11:38:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Yan Filyurin Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 14:38:32 -0400 Message-ID: To: lsvr@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c615aa05942e20a8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 X-BeenThere: lsvr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Link State Vector Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2019 18:38:45 -0000 --000000000000c615aa05942e20a8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have read and support this draft. Per applicability draft our application will be a variation of sparse peering and in will apply to a non-datacenter application similar to what is described in section 6.6 (of applicability draft) . BGP peer discovery model, not in the draft but related to LSVR WG effort is of interest to us. I will reaching out to WG with some additional applications. Yan Filyurin Viasat --000000000000c615aa05942e20a8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable _______________________________________________
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I have read and support this draft.

Per= applicability draft our application will be a variation of sparse peering = and in will apply to a non-datacenter application similar to what is descri= bed in section 6.6 (of applicability draft) .=C2=A0=C2=A0

BGP peer discovery model, not in the draft but related to LSVR WG e= ffort is of interest to us.=C2=A0=C2=A0

I will rea= ching out to WG with some additional applications.=C2=A0

Yan Filyurin
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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As document contributor, I have no awareness of IPR. G/ From: Lsvr On Behalf Of Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia= - BE/Antwerp) Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 05:53 To: lsvr@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Victor Kuarsingh Subject: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October 7, 2019= ) [corrected date typo] Hi All, The LSVR WG starts a fresh working group last call for "draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp= -spf-05". Please send your comments to the list before Monday October 7. (This is a 2nd WGLC following first WGLC 3-17 December 2018) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf/ Authors, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of any relevant IP= R. All, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of an implementation. Brgds, Gunter & Victor LSVR WG co-chairs --_000_AM0PR07MB5137707E7679C1A086E0B6CAE09B0AM0PR07MB5137eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As document contributor, I have no awareness of IPR.=

 

G/

 

From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> O= n Behalf Of Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 05:53
To: lsvr@ietf.org
Cc: draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jv= knet.com>
Subject: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October = 7, 2019)

 

[corrected date typo]

 

Hi Al=
l,
 =
;
The L=
SVR WG starts a fresh working group last call for “draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05”. Please send your comments to t=
he list before Monday October 7.
(This=
 is a 2nd WGLC following first WGLC 3-17 December 2018) 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp=
-spf/

 =
;


Autho=
rs, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of any relevant IPR.


All, =
please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of an implementation.


 =
;


Brgds,<=
/p>

Gunter & Victor<=
/o:p>


LSVR WG co-chairs


 
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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi WG, The WGLC is running towards an end today EOB 7 October. Please find a kind reminder that all document contributors have provided an= answer regarding awareness of relevant IPR. G/ From: Lsvr On Behalf Of Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia= - BE/Antwerp) Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 05:53 To: lsvr@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Victor Kuarsingh Subject: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October 7, 2019= ) [corrected date typo] Hi All, The LSVR WG starts a fresh working group last call for "draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp= -spf-05". Please send your comments to the list before Monday October 7. (This is a 2nd WGLC following first WGLC 3-17 December 2018) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf/ Authors, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of any relevant IP= R. All, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of an implementation. Brgds, Gunter & Victor LSVR WG co-chairs --_000_AM0PR07MB5137650CFF8A40CE1478F78CE09B0AM0PR07MB5137eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi WG,

 

The WGLC is running towards an end today EOB 7 Octob= er.

Please find a kind reminder that all document contri= butors have provided an answer regarding awareness of relevant IPR.

 

G/

 

 

From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> O= n Behalf Of Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 05:53
To: lsvr@ietf.org
Cc: draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jv= knet.com>
Subject: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October = 7, 2019)

 

[corrected date typo]

 

Hi Al=
l,
 =
;
The L=
SVR WG starts a fresh working group last call for “draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05”. Please send your comments to t=
he list before Monday October 7.
(This=
 is a 2nd WGLC following first WGLC 3-17 December 2018) 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp=
-spf/

 =
;


Autho=
rs, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of any relevant IPR.


All, =
please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of an implementation.


 =
;


Brgds,<=
/p>

Gunter & Victor<=
/o:p>


LSVR WG co-chairs


 
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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi WG, The WGLC is running towards an end today EOB 7 October. Please find a kind reminder that *not* all document contributors have provi= ded an answer regarding awareness of relevant IPR. G/ From: Lsvr > On Behalf = Of Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 05:53 To: lsvr@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Victor Kuarsingh > Subject: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October 7, 2019= ) [corrected date typo] Hi All, The LSVR WG starts a fresh working group last call for "draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp= -spf-05". Please send your comments to the list before Monday October 7. (This is a 2nd WGLC following first WGLC 3-17 December 2018) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf/ Authors, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of any relevant IP= R. All, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of an implementation. 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Hi WG,

 

The WGLC is running towards an end today EOB 7 Octob= er.

Please find a kind reminder that *not* all do= cument contributors have provided an answer regarding awareness of relevant= IPR.

 

G/

 

 

From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 05:53
To: lsvr@ietf.org
Cc: draft-ietf-l= svr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jvknet.com>
Subject: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October = 7, 2019)

 

[corrected date typo]

 

Hi Al=
l,
 =
;
The L=
SVR WG starts a fresh working group last call for “draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05”. Please send your comments to t=
he list before Monday October 7.
(This=
 is a 2nd WGLC following first WGLC 3-17 December 2018) 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp=
-spf/

 =
;


Autho=
rs, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of any relevant IPR.


All, =
please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of an implementation.


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Brgds,<=
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Gunter & Victor<=
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LSVR WG co-chairs


 
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=?utf-8?q?ft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05_=28to_end_October_7=2C_2019=29?= X-BeenThere: lsvr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Link State Vector Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 17:35:55 -0000 ------=_Part_3095665_130145655.1570469745432 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3095662_769079912.1570469745364" ------=_Part_3095662_769079912.1570469745364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,I read the draft and personally support it. SY,Boris =D0=9E=D1=82=D0=BF=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D0=BB=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B8=D0=B7 Y= ahoo =D0=9F=D0=BE=D1=87=D1=82=D1=8B =D0=B4=D0=BB=D1=8F Android=20 =20 =D0=BF=D0=BD, 23 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82. 2019 =D0=B2 6:48 Van De Velde,= Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0= =BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB(-=D0=B0): Hi All, =C2=A0 The LSVR WG starts a fresh w= orking group last call for =E2=80=9Cdraft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05=E2=80=9D. Pl= ease send your comments to the list before Monday October 7. (This is a 2nd= WGLC following first WGLC 3-17 December 2019) https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf/ =C2=A0 Authors, please reply on-list indicat= ing if you're aware of any relevant IPR. All, please reply on-list indicati= ng if you're aware of an implementation. =C2=A0=20 Brgds, =20 Gunter & Victor =20 LSVR WG co-chairs =20 =C2=A0 _______________________________________________ Lsvr mailing list Lsvr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr =20 ------=_Part_3095662_769079912.1570469745364 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,
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to the list before Monday October 7.
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(This is a 2nd WGL=
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Authors, please reply on-list=
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Brgds,
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Gunter & Victor
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LSVR WG co-chairs
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There is sufficient support for closing the WGLC successfully. I'll start the shepherd write-up for this document before sending towards I= ESG Authors: 1. There is one person from document contributor list that did not comme= nt on LSVR WG list about IPR awareness. This needs to be completed before d= ocument can progress. 2. Authors, will there be a re-edit based upon comments received during = WGLC? 3. Authors, please confirm 'on-list' that all issues discovered during r= outing directorate review have been sufficiently addressed? Kind Regards, G/ From: Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 10:36 To: Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) ; lsvr@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Victor Kuarsingh Subject: RE: WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October 7, 2019) Hi WG, The WGLC is running towards an end today EOB 7 October. Please find a kind reminder that *not* all document contributors have provi= ded an answer regarding awareness of relevant IPR. G/ From: Lsvr > On Behalf = Of Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 05:53 To: lsvr@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Victor Kuarsingh > Subject: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October 7, 2019= ) [corrected date typo] Hi All, The LSVR WG starts a fresh working group last call for "draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp= -spf-05". Please send your comments to the list before Monday October 7. (This is a 2nd WGLC following first WGLC 3-17 December 2018) https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf/ Authors, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of any relevant IP= R. All, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of an implementation. Brgds, Gunter & Victor LSVR WG co-chairs --_000_AM0PR07MB513785AEEE7CB47D026CB513E09A0AM0PR07MB5137eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The WGLC for “draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf” h= as been completed.

There is sufficient support for closing the WGLC suc= cessfully.

 

I’ll start the shepherd write-up for this docu= ment before sending towards IESG

 

Authors:

  1. There is one person from document contributor list that did not comme= nt on LSVR WG list about IPR awareness. This needs to be completed before d= ocument can progress.
  2. Authors, will there be a re-ed= it based upon comments received during WGLC?
  3. Authors, please confirm ‘on-list’ that al= l issues discovered during routing directorate review have been sufficientl= y addressed?

 

Kind Regards,

G/

 

 

From: Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwer= p) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 10:36
To: Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <gunter.van_de_veld= e@nokia.com>; lsvr@ietf.org
Cc: draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jv= knet.com>
Subject: RE: WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October 7, = 2019)

 

 

Hi WG,

 

The WGLC is running towards an end today EOB 7 Octob= er.

Please find a kind reminder that *not* all do= cument contributors have provided an answer regarding awareness of relevant= IPR.

 

G/

 

 

From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2019 05:53
To: lsvr@ietf.org
Cc: draft-ietf-l= svr-bgp-spf@ietf.org; Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jvknet.com>
Subject: [Lsvr] WGLC for draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05 (to end October = 7, 2019)

 

[corrected date typo]

 

Hi Al=
l,
 =
;
The L=
SVR WG starts a fresh working group last call for “draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf-05”. Please send your comments to t=
he list before Monday October 7.
(This=
 is a 2nd WGLC following first WGLC 3-17 December 2018) 
https:/=
/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf/
 =
;
Autho=
rs, please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of any relevant IPR.
All, =
please reply on-list indicating if you're aware of an implementation.
 =
;

Brgds,<= /p>

Gunter & Victor<= /o:p>

LSVR WG co-chairs

 

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"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b56db0059488bf9a" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf X-BeenThere: lsvr@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Link State Vector Routing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 06:45:41 -0000 --000000000000b56db0059488bf9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *Hi Acee, * *Needed one more clarification below.* On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:03 AM Pushpasis Sarkar wrote: > Hi Acee, > > Just saw the latest version of the draft. I wanted to understand what is > the exact difference between the values 1 and 2. Just to clarify my doubt > let's consider a prefix P that is only originated by node N. Now what wil= l > be the reachability of prefix P in the two scenarios (first with SPF Stat= us > TLV value set to 1 vs with SPF Status TLV value set to 2). Will P be > unreachable in both cases? My understanding is it should still be reachab= le > when the value is set to 2. > > If my understanding is correct, then perhaps we need more clarifications > on the following text.. especially for the case there is no next link fro= m > this node. > > "If the current Node NLRI attributes includes the SPF status > > TLV (Section 4.1.2) and the status indicates that the Node > > doesn't support transit, the next link for the current node is > processed." > *[Pushpasis] This condition applies to all the links originating from this current node NLRI. So does it mean none of the links origination from the current node will be processed? If so, the last statement ("the next link for the current node is processed") part is misleading. We can perhaps re-work to avoid processing any of the links from the current node NLRI under such scenario in a different step between step 4 and step 5.* *Thanks* *-Pushpasis* > If the P is unreachable in the later case too (value set to 2), then I > don't see what is the difference between using the values 1 and 2. > > Thanks > -Pushpasis > > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) > wrote: > >> After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, we are planning on >> defining an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI analogous to the = one >> defined for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node Attribute TLV, the >> status would have an additional value indicating the node should not be >> used for transit traffic. >> >> >> >> 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved >> >> 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to B= GP SPF >> >> 2 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit with= respect >> to BGP SPF >> >> 3-254 =E2=80=93 Undefined >> >> 255 =E2=80=93 Reserved >> >> >> >> Comments? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Acee >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Lsvr on behalf of Acee Lindem < >> acee@cisco.com> >> *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM >> *To: *Pushpasis Sarkar >> *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < >> lsvr@ietf.org> >> *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >> >> >> >> Hi Pushpasis, >> >> This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS-IS O bit are basically the same functionality. >> The node is not used for transit but is used for local prefixes. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Acee >> >> >> >> *From: *Pushpasis Sarkar >> *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM >> *To: *Acee Lindem >> *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < >> lsvr@ietf.org> >> *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >> >> >> >> Hi Chaitanya and Acee, >> >> >> >> How about the 'O' bit in Node-Flag-Bits TLV defined in RFC 7752 section >> 3.3.1.1? I suppose the node can set the 'O' bit when it wants to take >> itself out from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related to >> the scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. But I suppo= se >> we can use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well. >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> -Pushpasis >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (acee) >> wrote: >> >> Hi Chaitanya, >> >> I think this is a good idea and will discuss with my co-authors. >> >> Thanks, >> Acee >> >> >> >> *From: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" >> *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM >> *To: *Acee Lindem , "lsvr@ietf.org" >> *Subject: *RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >> >> >> >> Correct like a R-Bit. >> >> >> >> I have read this draft and I support it. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chaitanya >> >> >> >> >> >> This communication may contain information that is privileged, or >> confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that an= y >> dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly >> prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the >> sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from h= is >> or her computer. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Acee Lindem (acee) >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM >> *To:* YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA ; lsvr@ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >> >> >> >> Hi Chaitanya, >> >> >> >> Exactly what do you mean by node cost out and what use case are you >> trying to satisfy. If a node wants to remove itself from the topology, i= t >> can simply withdraw its link NLRI. However, are you looking for a mechan= ism >> similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute? >> >> >> >> R-bit >> >> This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is an >> >> active router. If the router bit is clear, then routes that >> >> transit the advertising node cannot be computed. Clearing the >> >> router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants >> >> to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non- >> >> locally addressed packets. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Acee >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Lsvr on behalf of "YADLAPALLI, >> CHAITANYA" >> *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM >> *To: *"lsvr@ietf.org" >> *Subject: *[Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >> >> >> >> Hi Authors, >> >> The draft does not explicitly call out mechanisms for node cost out. It >> would be good to call out mechanisms to cost out a node explicitly. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chaitanya >> >> >> >> >> >> *Chaitanya Yadlapalli* >> >> Network Infrastructure And Services >> >> >> >> *AT&T Services, Inc.* >> >> 200 S Laurel Ave, Middletown, NJ 07722 >> >> o 732.420.7977 | cy098d@att.com >> >> >> >> This communication may contain information that is privileged, or >> confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that an= y >> dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly >> prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the >> sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from h= is >> or her computer. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Lsvr mailing list >> Lsvr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr >> >> --000000000000b56db0059488bf9a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Acee,=C2=A0

Needed one more clarification =C2=A0below.

On Wed, Oct 2= , 2019 at 1:03 AM Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Hi Acee= ,=C2=A0

Just saw the latest version of the draft. I want= ed=C2=A0to understand what is the exact difference between the values 1 and= 2. Just to clarify my doubt let's consider a prefix P that is only ori= ginated by node N. Now what will be the reachability of prefix P in the two= scenarios (first with SPF Status TLV value set to 1 vs with SPF Status TLV= value set to 2). Will P be unreachable in both cases? My understanding is = it should=C2=A0still be reachable when the value is set to 2.=C2=A0

If my understanding is correct, then perhaps we need more= clarifications on the following text.. especially for the case there is no= next link from this node.

"If the c= urrent Node NLRI attributes includes the SPF status

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TLV (Section 4.1.2) and the sta= tus indicates that the Node

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 doesn't support transit, the next link for the curren= t node is

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0processed."
[Pushpas= is] This condition applies to all the links originating from this current n= ode NLRI. So does it mean none of the links origination from the current no= de will be processed? If so, the last statement ("the next link for=C2= =A0the current node is processed") part is misleading. We can perhaps = re-work to avoid processing any of the links from the current node NLRI und= er such=C2=A0scenario=C2=A0in a different step=C2=A0between step 4 and step= 5.=C2=A0

Thanks
-Pushpasi= s


If the P is unreachable in the later case too = (value set to 2), then I don't see what is the difference between using= the values 1 and 2.

Thanks
-Pushpasis





<= /div>

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, w= e are planning on defining an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI an= alogous to the one defined for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node At= tribute TLV, the status would have an additional value indicating the node should not be used for transit tra= ffic.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to BGP S= PF

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A02 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit wit= h respect to BGP SPF

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A03-254 =E2=80=93 Un= defined

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= 255 =E2=80=93 Reserved

=C2=A0

Comments?

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org>= ; on behalf of Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Pushpasis, =

This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS= -IS O bit are basically the same functionality. The node is not used for tr= ansit but is used for local prefixes.

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0

From: Pushpasis Sarkar <= pushpasis.iet= f@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Chaitanya and Acee,

=C2=A0

How about the 'O' bit in Node-Flag-B= its TLV defined in RFC 7752 section 3.3.1.1? I suppose the node can set the= 'O' bit when it wants to take itself out from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related to the = scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. But I suppose we c= an use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Thanks

-Pushpasis

=C2=A0

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <<= a href=3D"mailto:acee@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">acee@cisco.com> w= rote:

Hi Chaitanya,

I think this is a good idea an= d will discuss with my co-authors.

Thanks,
Acee

=C2=A0

= From: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Correct like a = R-Bit.

=C2=A0

I have read this draft and I support it.

=C2=A0

Thanks,<= u>

Chaitanya

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Thi= s communication may contain information that is privileged, or confidential= . If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any dissemination= , distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.=C2=A0 Anyone who receives this messa= ge in error should notify the sender immediately by telephone or by return = e-mail and delete it from his or her computer.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM
To: YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA <cy098d@att.com>; lsvr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Chaitanya,

=C2=A0

Exactly what do you mean by no= de cost out and what use case are you trying to satisfy. If a node wants to= remove itself from the topology, it can simply withdraw its link NLRI. How= ever, are you looking for a mechanism similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute?=

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0 R-bit

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is an

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= active router.=C2=A0 If the router bit is clear, then routes that

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= transit the advertising node cannot be computed.=C2=A0 Clearing the=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non-=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= locally addressed packets.

=C2=A0

Thanks,
Acee

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

= From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA&quo= t; <cy098d@att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM
To: "lsvr@ie= tf.org" <lsv= r@ietf.org>
Subject: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Authors,

The draft does not explicitly = call out mechanisms for node cost out. It would be good to call out mechani= sms to cost out a node explicitly.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Chaitanya=

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Chaitanya Yadlapalli

Network Infrastr= ucture And Services=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0

AT&T Services, Inc.

200 S Laurel Ave= , Middletown, NJ 07722

o=C2=A0 732.420.7977=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 cy098d@att.com

=C2=A0

Thi= s communication may contain information that is privileged, or confidential= . If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any dissemination= , distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.=C2=A0 Anyone who receives this messa= ge in error should notify the sender immediately by telephone or by return = e-mail and delete it from his or her computer.=C2=A0

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Please send us (lsrv-chairs@ietf.org) any requ= ests for presentation slots. Thanks, Gunter & Victor PS: The IETF 106 Preliminary Agenda has been posted.. The final agenda will= be published on Friday, October 25, 2019. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/agenda.html https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/agenda.txt --_000_AM0PR07MB51379FF872DD22AB78BBEBD7E0690AM0PR07MB5137eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

The LSVR (link-state-vector-routing) WG will be mee=
ting on Tuesday, November 19th, 2019 from 13:30 to 15:00 AM.
 
Please send us (lsrv-chairs@ietf.org) any requests for presentation slots.
 
Thanks,
Gunter & Victor
 
PS: The IETF 106 Preliminary Agenda has been posted=
.. The final agenda will be published on Friday, October 25, 2019.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/agenda.html

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/agenda.txt=

 

 

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Regards, Paul ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Date: Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 8:02 AM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-congdon-lsvr-lldp-tlvs-00.txt To: Paul Bottorff , Paul Congdon < paul.congdon@tallac.com> A new version of I-D, draft-congdon-lsvr-lldp-tlvs-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Paul Congdon and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-congdon-lsvr-lldp-tlvs Revision: 00 Title: LSVR IETF Organizationally Specific TLVs for IEEE Std 802.1AB (LLDP) Document date: 2019-10-22 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 16 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-congdon-lsvr-lldp-tlvs-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-congdon-lsvr-lldp-tlvs/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-congdon-lsvr-lldp-tlvs-00 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-congdon-lsvr-lldp-tlvs Abstract: IEEE Std 802.1AB, commonly known as the Link Layer Discovery Protocol (LLDP), provides a means for individual organizations to define their own Type-Length-Value (TLV) objects for exchange over the protocol. The IETF is a standards development organization with an IANA OUI (RFC 7042) that can be used in LLDP organizationally specific TLVs. This document specifies IETF Organizationally Specific TLVs that support LSVR protocols. 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Hello LSVR,

I wanted to make you aw= are of this initial draft.

Regards,
Paul=

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0IEEE Std 802.1AB, commonly known as the Link Layer Discovery =C2=A0 =C2=A0Protocol (LLDP), provides a means for individual organizations= to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0define their own Type-Length-Value (TLV) objects for exchange = over
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the protocol.=C2=A0 The IETF is a standards development organi= zation with
=C2=A0 =C2=A0an IANA OUI (RFC 7042) that can be used in LLDP organizational= ly
=C2=A0 =C2=A0specific TLVs.=C2=A0 This document specifies IETF Organization= ally
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Specific TLVs that support LSVR protocols.




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We have code added for encode and decode and wanted to understand if we can get some hexdump to interop. Thanks Santosh P K On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:15 PM Pushpasis Sarkar wrote: > *Hi Acee, * > > *Needed one more clarification below.* > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:03 AM Pushpasis Sarkar > wrote: > >> Hi Acee, >> >> Just saw the latest version of the draft. I wanted to understand what is >> the exact difference between the values 1 and 2. Just to clarify my doub= t >> let's consider a prefix P that is only originated by node N. Now what wi= ll >> be the reachability of prefix P in the two scenarios (first with SPF Sta= tus >> TLV value set to 1 vs with SPF Status TLV value set to 2). Will P be >> unreachable in both cases? My understanding is it should still be reacha= ble >> when the value is set to 2. >> >> If my understanding is correct, then perhaps we need more clarifications >> on the following text.. especially for the case there is no next link fr= om >> this node. >> >> "If the current Node NLRI attributes includes the SPF status >> >> TLV (Section 4.1.2) and the status indicates that the Node >> >> doesn't support transit, the next link for the current node is >> processed." >> > *[Pushpasis] This condition applies to all the links originating from thi= s > current node NLRI. So does it mean none of the links origination from the > current node will be processed? If so, the last statement ("the next link > for the current node is processed") part is misleading. We can perhaps > re-work to avoid processing any of the links from the current node NLRI > under such scenario in a different step between step 4 and step 5.* > > *Thanks* > *-Pushpasis* > > >> If the P is unreachable in the later case too (value set to 2), then I >> don't see what is the difference between using the values 1 and 2. >> >> Thanks >> -Pushpasis >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) >> wrote: >> >>> After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, we are planning on >>> defining an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI analogous to the= one >>> defined for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node Attribute TLV, th= e >>> status would have an additional value indicating the node should not be >>> used for transit traffic. >>> >>> >>> >>> 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved >>> >>> 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to = BGP SPF >>> >>> 2 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit wit= h respect >>> to BGP SPF >>> >>> 3-254 =E2=80=93 Undefined >>> >>> 255 =E2=80=93 Reserved >>> >>> >>> >>> Comments? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Acee >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Lsvr on behalf of Acee Lindem < >>> acee@cisco.com> >>> *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM >>> *To: *Pushpasis Sarkar >>> *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < >>> lsvr@ietf.org> >>> *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Pushpasis, >>> >>> This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS-IS O bit are basically the same functionality. >>> The node is not used for transit but is used for local prefixes. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Acee >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Pushpasis Sarkar >>> *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM >>> *To: *Acee Lindem >>> *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < >>> lsvr@ietf.org> >>> *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Chaitanya and Acee, >>> >>> >>> >>> How about the 'O' bit in Node-Flag-Bits TLV defined in RFC 7752 section >>> 3.3.1.1? I suppose the node can set the 'O' bit when it wants to take >>> itself out from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related t= o >>> the scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. But I supp= ose >>> we can use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> -Pushpasis >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (acee) >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Chaitanya, >>> >>> I think this is a good idea and will discuss with my co-authors. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Acee >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" >>> *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM >>> *To: *Acee Lindem , "lsvr@ietf.org" >>> *Subject: *RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >>> >>> >>> >>> Correct like a R-Bit. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have read this draft and I support it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Chaitanya >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This communication may contain information that is privileged, or >>> confidential.. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that = any >>> dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictl= y >>> prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify th= e >>> sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from = his >>> or her computer. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Acee Lindem (acee) >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM >>> *To:* YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA ; lsvr@ietf.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Chaitanya, >>> >>> >>> >>> Exactly what do you mean by node cost out and what use case are you >>> trying to satisfy. If a node wants to remove itself from the topology, = it >>> can simply withdraw its link NLRI. However, are you looking for a mecha= nism >>> similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute? >>> >>> >>> >>> R-bit >>> >>> This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is a= n >>> >>> active router. If the router bit is clear, then routes that >>> >>> transit the advertising node cannot be computed. Clearing the >>> >>> router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants >>> >>> to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non- >>> >>> locally addressed packets. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Acee >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *Lsvr on behalf of "YADLAPALLI, >>> CHAITANYA" >>> *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM >>> *To: *"lsvr@ietf.org" >>> *Subject: *[Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Authors, >>> >>> The draft does not explicitly call out mechanisms for node cost out. It >>> would be good to call out mechanisms to cost out a node explicitly. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Chaitanya >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Chaitanya Yadlapalli* >>> >>> Network Infrastructure And Services >>> >>> >>> >>> *AT&T Services, Inc.* >>> >>> 200 S Laurel Ave, Middletown, NJ 07722 >>> >>> o 732.420.7977 | cy098d@att.com >>> >>> >>> >>> This communication may contain information that is privileged, or >>> confidential.. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that = any >>> dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictl= y >>> prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify th= e >>> sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from = his >>> or her computer. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Lsvr mailing list >>> Lsvr@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > Lsvr mailing list > Lsvr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr > --0000000000006465630595f9cbcf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Can anyone please help me= with BGP-LS-SPF packet hex dump? We have code added for encode and decode = and wanted to understand if we can get some hexdump to interop.=C2=A0

Thanks
Santosh P K=C2=A0

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Thu, Oct= 10, 2019 at 12:15 PM Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi= Acee,=C2=A0

Needed one more clarification= =C2=A0below.

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:03 AM Pushpasis Sarkar <= pushpasis.iet= f@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Acee,=C2=A0

Just saw the latest version of the dr= aft. I wanted=C2=A0to understand what is the exact difference between the v= alues 1 and 2. Just to clarify my doubt let's consider a prefix P that = is only originated by node N. Now what will be the reachability of prefix P= in the two scenarios (first with SPF Status TLV value set to 1 vs with SPF= Status TLV value set to 2). Will P be unreachable in both cases? My unders= tanding is it should=C2=A0still be reachable when the value is set to 2.=C2= =A0

If my understanding is correct, then perhaps w= e need more clarifications on the following text.. especially for the case = there is no next link from this node.

"If the current Node NLRI attributes includes the SPF status
=

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TLV (Section 4.1.2) = and the status indicates that the Node

=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 doesn't support transit, the next link for= the current node is

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0= processed."
[Pushpasis] This condition applies to all the links originating from t= his current node NLRI. So does it mean none of the links origination from t= he current node will be processed? If so, the last statement ("the nex= t link for=C2=A0the current node is processed") part is misleading. We= can perhaps re-work to avoid processing any of the links from the current = node NLRI under such=C2=A0scenario=C2=A0in a different step=C2=A0between st= ep 4 and step 5.=C2=A0

Thanks
-Pushpasis

=
= If the P is unreachable in the later case too (value set to 2), then I don&= #39;t see what is the difference between using the values 1 and 2.

Thanks
-Pushpasis






On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at = 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, w= e are planning on defining an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI an= alogous to the one defined for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node At= tribute TLV, the status would have an additional value indicating the node should not be used for transit tra= ffic.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to BGP S= PF

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A02 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit wit= h respect to BGP SPF

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A03-254 =E2=80=93 Un= defined

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= 255 =E2=80=93 Reserved

=C2=A0

Comments?

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org>= ; on behalf of Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Pushpasis, =

This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS= -IS O bit are basically the same functionality. The node is not used for tr= ansit but is used for local prefixes.

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0

From: Pushpasis Sarkar <= pushpasis.iet= f@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Chaitanya and Acee,

=C2=A0

How about the 'O' bit in Node-Flag-B= its TLV defined in RFC 7752 section 3.3.1.1? I suppose the node can set the= 'O' bit when it wants to take itself out from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related to the = scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. But I suppose we c= an use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Thanks

-Pushpasis

=C2=A0

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <<= a href=3D"mailto:acee@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">acee@cisco.com> w= rote:

Hi Chaitanya,

I think this is a good idea an= d will discuss with my co-authors.

Thanks,
Acee

=C2=A0

= From: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Correct like a = R-Bit.

=C2=A0

I have read this draft and I support it.

=C2=A0

Thanks,<= u>

Chaitanya

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Thi= s communication may contain information that is privileged, or confidential= .. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any disseminatio= n, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.=C2=A0 Anyone who receives this messa= ge in error should notify the sender immediately by telephone or by return = e-mail and delete it from his or her computer.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM
To: YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA <cy098d@att.com>; lsvr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Chaitanya,

=C2=A0

Exactly what do you mean by no= de cost out and what use case are you trying to satisfy. If a node wants to= remove itself from the topology, it can simply withdraw its link NLRI. How= ever, are you looking for a mechanism similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute?=

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0 R-bit

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is an

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= active router.=C2=A0 If the router bit is clear, then routes that

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= transit the advertising node cannot be computed.=C2=A0 Clearing the=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non-=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= locally addressed packets.

=C2=A0

Thanks,
Acee

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

= From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA&quo= t; <cy098d@att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM
To: "lsvr@ie= tf.org" <lsv= r@ietf.org>
Subject: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Authors,

The draft does not explicitly = call out mechanisms for node cost out. It would be good to call out mechani= sms to cost out a node explicitly.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Chaitanya=

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Chaitanya Yadlapalli

Network Infrastr= ucture And Services=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0

AT&T Services, Inc.

200 S Laurel Ave= , Middletown, NJ 07722

o=C2=A0 732.420.7977=C2=A0 |=C2=A0 cy098d@att.com

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I will try to get some packet captures from our implementations and send it to you at the earliest possible. Thanks -Pushpasis On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:32 PM Santosh P K wrote: > All, > Can anyone please help me with BGP-LS-SPF packet hex dump? We have cod= e > added for encode and decode and wanted to understand if we can get some > hexdump to interop. > > Thanks > Santosh P K > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:15 PM Pushpasis Sarkar < > pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > >> *Hi Acee, * >> >> *Needed one more clarification below.* >> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 1:03 AM Pushpasis Sarkar >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Acee, >>> >>> Just saw the latest version of the draft. I wanted to understand what i= s >>> the exact difference between the values 1 and 2. Just to clarify my dou= bt >>> let's consider a prefix P that is only originated by node N. Now what w= ill >>> be the reachability of prefix P in the two scenarios (first with SPF St= atus >>> TLV value set to 1 vs with SPF Status TLV value set to 2). Will P be >>> unreachable in both cases? My understanding is it should still be reach= able >>> when the value is set to 2. >>> >>> If my understanding is correct, then perhaps we need more clarification= s >>> on the following text.. especially for the case there is no next link f= rom >>> this node. >>> >>> "If the current Node NLRI attributes includes the SPF status >>> >>> TLV (Section 4.1.2) and the status indicates that the Node >>> >>> doesn't support transit, the next link for the current node i= s >>> processed." >>> >> *[Pushpasis] This condition applies to all the links originating from >> this current node NLRI. So does it mean none of the links origination fr= om >> the current node will be processed? If so, the last statement ("the next >> link for the current node is processed") part is misleading. We can perh= aps >> re-work to avoid processing any of the links from the current node NLRI >> under such scenario in a different step between step 4 and step 5.* >> >> *Thanks* >> *-Pushpasis* >> >> >>> If the P is unreachable in the later case too (value set to 2), then I >>> don't see what is the difference between using the values 1 and 2. >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Pushpasis >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) >>> wrote: >>> >>>> After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, we are planning on >>>> defining an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI analogous to th= e one >>>> defined for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node Attribute TLV, t= he >>>> status would have an additional value indicating the node should not b= e >>>> used for transit traffic. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved >>>> >>>> 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to= BGP SPF >>>> >>>> 2 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit wi= th >>>> respect to BGP SPF >>>> >>>> 3-254 =E2=80=93 Undefined >>>> >>>> 255 =E2=80=93 Reserved >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Comments? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Acee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *Lsvr on behalf of Acee Lindem < >>>> acee@cisco.com> >>>> *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM >>>> *To: *Pushpasis Sarkar >>>> *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < >>>> lsvr@ietf.org> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Pushpasis, >>>> >>>> This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS-IS O bit are basically the same functionality= . >>>> The node is not used for transit but is used for local prefixes. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Acee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *Pushpasis Sarkar >>>> *Date: *Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM >>>> *To: *Acee Lindem >>>> *Cc: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" , "lsvr@ietf.org" < >>>> lsvr@ietf.org> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Chaitanya and Acee, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> How about the 'O' bit in Node-Flag-Bits TLV defined in RFC 7752 sectio= n >>>> 3.3.1.1? I suppose the node can set the 'O' bit when it wants to take >>>> itself out from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related = to >>>> the scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. But I sup= pose >>>> we can use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> -Pushpasis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (acee) >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Chaitanya, >>>> >>>> I think this is a good idea and will discuss with my co-authors. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Acee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *"YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" >>>> *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM >>>> *To: *Acee Lindem , "lsvr@ietf.org" >>>> *Subject: *RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Correct like a R-Bit. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have read this draft and I support it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Chaitanya >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This communication may contain information that is privileged, or >>>> confidential.. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that= any >>>> dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strict= ly >>>> prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify t= he >>>> sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from= his >>>> or her computer. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Acee Lindem (acee) >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:42 AM >>>> *To:* YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA ; lsvr@ietf.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Chaitanya, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Exactly what do you mean by node cost out and what use case are you >>>> trying to satisfy. If a node wants to remove itself from the topology,= it >>>> can simply withdraw its link NLRI. However, are you looking for a mech= anism >>>> similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> R-bit >>>> >>>> This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is = an >>>> >>>> active router. If the router bit is clear, then routes that >>>> >>>> transit the advertising node cannot be computed. Clearing the >>>> >>>> router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that want= s >>>> >>>> to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non- >>>> >>>> locally addressed packets. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Acee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *Lsvr on behalf of "YADLAPALLI, >>>> CHAITANYA" >>>> *Date: *Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM >>>> *To: *"lsvr@ietf.org" >>>> *Subject: *[Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Authors, >>>> >>>> The draft does not explicitly call out mechanisms for node cost out. I= t >>>> would be good to call out mechanisms to cost out a node explicitly. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Chaitanya >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Chaitanya Yadlapalli* >>>> >>>> Network Infrastructure And Services >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *AT&T Services, Inc.* >>>> >>>> 200 S Laurel Ave, Middletown, NJ 07722 >>>> >>>> o 732.420.7977 | cy098d@att.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This communication may contain information that is privileged, or >>>> confidential.. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that= any >>>> dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strict= ly >>>> prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify t= he >>>> sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from= his >>>> or her computer. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Lsvr mailing list >>>> Lsvr@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> Lsvr mailing list >> Lsvr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsvr >> > --00000000000000646c0595fb56eb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Santosh,

Good to know about the prog= ress on your side. I will try to get some packet captures from our implemen= tations and send it to you at the earliest possible.

Thanks
-Pushpasis

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:32 PM Santosh= P K <santosh.pallagatti= @gmail.com> wrote:
= All,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Can anyone please help me with BGP-LS-SPF packe= t hex dump? We have code added for encode and decode and wanted to understa= nd if we can get some hexdump to interop.=C2=A0

Thanks
Santosh P K=C2=A0

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:15 PM = Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Hi Acee,=C2=A0

Needed one more clarification =C2=A0below.

On Wed, Oct 2= , 2019 at 1:03 AM Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Hi Acee,=C2=A0

Just saw the latest version of = the draft. I wanted=C2=A0to understand what is the exact difference between= the values 1 and 2. Just to clarify my doubt let's consider a prefix P= that is only originated by node N. Now what will be the reachability of pr= efix P in the two scenarios (first with SPF Status TLV value set to 1 vs wi= th SPF Status TLV value set to 2). Will P be unreachable in both cases? My = understanding is it should=C2=A0still be reachable when the value is set to= 2.=C2=A0

If my understanding is correct, then per= haps we need more clarifications on the following text.. especially for the= case there is no next link from this node.

"If the current Node NLRI attributes includes the SPF status=

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 TLV (Section 4= .1.2) and the status indicates that the Node

= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 doesn't support transit, the next li= nk for the current node is

=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0processed."
[Pushpasis] This condition applies to all the links originating fr= om this current node NLRI. So does it mean none of the links origination fr= om the current node will be processed? If so, the last statement ("the= next link for=C2=A0the current node is processed") part is misleading= . We can perhaps re-work to avoid processing any of the links from the curr= ent node NLRI under such=C2=A0scenario=C2=A0in a different step=C2=A0betwee= n step 4 and step 5.=C2=A0

Thanks
=
-Pushpasis


If the P is unreachable in th= e later case too (value set to 2), then I don't see what is the differe= nce between using the values 1 and 2.

Thanks
-Pushpasis






On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:15 PM Acee Lindem (acee) &= lt;acee@cisco.com&g= t; wrote:

After discussion with my co-authors and Pushpasis, w= e are planning on defining an SPF Status TLV for the Node Attribute NLRI an= alogous to the one defined for Links and Prefixes. However, for the Node At= tribute TLV, the status would have an additional value indicating the node should not be used for transit tra= ffic.

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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0 =E2=80=93 Reserved

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1 =E2=80=93 Node unreachable with respect to BGP S= PF

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A02 =E2=80=93 Node does not support transit wit= h respect to BGP SPF

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A03-254 =E2=80=93 Un= defined

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= 255 =E2=80=93 Reserved

=C2=A0

Comments?

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Acee

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=C2=A0

From: Lsvr <lsvr-bounces@ietf.org>= ; on behalf of Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 10:15 AM
To: Pushpasis Sarkar <pushpasis.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Pushpasis, =

This OSPFv3 R Bit and IS= -IS O bit are basically the same functionality. The node is not used for tr= ansit but is used for local prefixes.

Thanks,

Acee

=C2=A0

From: Pushpasis Sarkar <= pushpasis.iet= f@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 2:53 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
Cc: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Chaitanya and Acee,

=C2=A0

How about the 'O' bit in Node-Flag-B= its TLV defined in RFC 7752 section 3.3.1.1? I suppose the node can set the= 'O' bit when it wants to take itself out from all transit paths. I know the 'O' bit is more related to the = scenario when ISIS topology is being exported in BGP-LS. But I suppose we c= an use that for BGP-LS-SPF as well.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Thanks

-Pushpasis

=C2=A0

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:35 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <<= a href=3D"mailto:acee@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">acee@cisco.com> w= rote:

Hi Chaitanya,

I think this is a good idea an= d will discuss with my co-authors.

Thanks,
Acee

=C2=A0

= From: "YADLAPALLI, CHAITANYA" <cy098d@att.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 11:02 AM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>, "lsvr@ietf.org" <lsvr@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Correct like a = R-Bit.

=C2=A0

I have read this draft and I support it.

=C2=A0

Thanks,<= u>

Chaitanya

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From: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
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=C2=A0

Hi Chaitanya,

=C2=A0

Exactly what do you mean by no= de cost out and what use case are you trying to satisfy. If a node wants to= remove itself from the topology, it can simply withdraw its link NLRI. How= ever, are you looking for a mechanism similar to the OSPFv3 R-Bit as a Node NLRI SPF Attribute?=

=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0 R-bit

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= This bit (the `Router' bit) indicates whether the originator is an

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= active router.=C2=A0 If the router bit is clear, then routes that

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= transit the advertising node cannot be computed.=C2=A0 Clearing the=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= router bit would be appropriate for a multi-homed host that wants

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= to participate in routing, but does not want to forward non-=

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= locally addressed packets.

=C2=A0

Thanks,
Acee

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Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 10:31 AM
To: "lsvr@ie= tf.org" <lsv= r@ietf.org>
Subject: [Lsvr] Mail regarding draft-ietf-lsvr-bgp-spf=

=C2=A0

Hi Authors,

The draft does not explicitly = call out mechanisms for node cost out. It would be good to call out mechani= sms to cost out a node explicitly.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Chaitanya=

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