From petercon@microsoft.com Wed Feb 29 12:43:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ltru@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ltru@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341A721E8096 for ; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:43:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RiEo0yLGYOgL for ; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from TX2EHSOBE007.bigfish.com (tx2ehsobe003.messaging.microsoft.com [65.55.88.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE8021E8095 for ; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail78-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.246) by TX2EHSOBE007.bigfish.com (10.9.40.27) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:43:56 +0000 Received: from mail78-tx2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail78-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB7880430; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:43:56 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: -6 X-BigFish: VS-6(zzc85fh1528M4015Izz1202hzz8275bh8275dhz2fh2a8h668h839h) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:131.107.125.8; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail78-tx2: domain of microsoft.com designates 131.107.125.8 as permitted sender) client-ip=131.107.125.8; envelope-from=petercon@microsoft.com; helo=TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ; icrosoft.com ; Received: from mail78-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail78-tx2 (MessageSwitch) id 1330548233987081_18642; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TX2EHSMHS020.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.235]) by mail78-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0F5E0043; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (131.107.125.8) by TX2EHSMHS020.bigfish.com (10.9.99.120) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:43:52 +0000 Received: from TK5EX14MBXC301.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([169.254.1.125]) by TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com ([157.54.79.174]) with mapi id 14.02.0283.004; Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:43:21 +0000 From: Peter Constable To: "ietf-languages@alvestrand.no" , "LTRU Working Group (ltru@ietf.org)" Thread-Topic: Windows 8 user languages and BCP 47 Thread-Index: Acz3H0fPkN7I0+1WSEuckTDiOOODxQ== Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:43:21 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [157.54.51.75] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_E0DDD339C9D52947B80DA5D631F0349924CA2CTK5EX14MBXC301red_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com Subject: [Ltru] Windows 8 user languages and BCP 47 X-BeenThere: ltru@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Language Tag Registry Update working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:43:59 -0000 --_000_E0DDD339C9D52947B80DA5D631F0349924CA2CTK5EX14MBXC301red_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [I know this will sound like a product plug. It may be that in part, but I = really do want to applaud BCP 47.] The Windows 8 Consumer Preview went live today for the public to download a= nd try out. One of the changes in this release is in the area of internatio= nal settings, with the new Language control panel as the focal point. In pr= evious versions of Windows, users were very limited (relative to the thousa= nds of known languages) in terms of getting Windows to recognize the langua= ges that they use. Thanks to ISO 639-3 and BCP 47, this is radically change= d in Windows 8: users are now able to indicate preferences from thousands o= f languages (and tens of thousands of language-script pairings). To keep from having an overwhelming number of options from being presented,= we don't list every possibility by default. But using the search feature w= hen you add a language, you can search on many additional language names, a= nd you can also search using a BCP 47 tag. Any "valid" BCP 47 language tag = will be accepted, and that language can be added to your user profile. For = our purposes, "valid" means (i) subtags are known (we'll have a snapshot of= LTRU), (ii) the script for the language is known (either an explicit scrip= t subtag or the script can be implied from the language subtag), and (iii) = the script is one for which Windows 8 has text display support (I've lost c= ount-close to 50). So, for instance, users can add to their profile languages such as sga-Oghm= (Old Irish written in Ogham script) or tlh-Latn (Klingon written in Latin = script). And with that, they can search for web content in those languages,= or edit documents in those languages, or write apps or language tools like= spelling checkers for those languages. It's a milestone with personal significance for me-I started looking into h= ow thousands of lesser-known languages could be supported in commercial sof= tware over 12 years ago. I want to give a big thanks to everyone who was in= volved in the (sometimes arduous) work on BCP 47 during that time. I see th= is a great success for BCP 47, and I hope it will lead to lots of success s= tories for smaller language communities throughout the world. Thanks, all! Peter Constable --_000_E0DDD339C9D52947B80DA5D631F0349924CA2CTK5EX14MBXC301red_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

[I know this will sound like a product plug. It may = be that in part, but I really do want to applaud BCP 47.]

 

The Windows 8 Consumer Preview went live today for t= he public to download and try out. One of the changes in this release is in= the area of international settings, with the new Language control panel as= the focal point. In previous versions of Windows, users were very limited (relative to the thousands of known la= nguages) in terms of getting Windows to recognize the languages that they u= se. Thanks to ISO 639-3 and BCP 47, this is radically changed in Windows 8:= users are now able to indicate preferences from thousands of languages (and tens of thousands of language= -script pairings).

 

To keep from having an overwhelming number of option= s from being presented, we don’t list every possibility by default. B= ut using the search feature when you add a language, you can search on many= additional language names, and you can also search using a BCP 47 tag. Any “valid” BCP 47 language ta= g will be accepted, and that language can be added to your user profile. Fo= r our purposes, “valid” means (i) subtags are known (we’l= l have a snapshot of LTRU), (ii) the script for the language is known (either an explicit script subtag or the script can be implied from = the language subtag), and (iii) the script is one for which Windows 8 has t= ext display support (I’ve lost count—close to 50).

 

So, for instance, users can add to their profile lan= guages such as sga-Oghm (Old Irish written in Ogham script) or tlh-Latn (Kl= ingon written in Latin script). And with that, they can search for web cont= ent in those languages, or edit documents in those languages, or write apps or language tools like spelling checkers= for those languages.

 

It’s a milestone with personal significance fo= r me—I started looking into how thousands of lesser-known languages c= ould be supported in commercial software over 12 years ago. I want to give = a big thanks to everyone who was involved in the (sometimes arduous) work on BCP 47 during that time. I see this a great su= ccess for BCP 47, and I hope it will lead to lots of success stories for sm= aller language communities throughout the world.

 

 

Thanks, all!

Peter Constable

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