From nobody Tue Aug 2 13:54:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF89812D0E6 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 13:54:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.736 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.736 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNRESOLVED_TEMPLATE=1.252] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=akamai.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NxreQcMyTK06 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 13:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com (prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com [23.79.238.179]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DAB12B017 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 13:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss70 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0473F402C for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:54:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prod-mail-relay10.akamai.com (prod-mail-relay10.akamai.com [172.27.118.251]) by prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1549B3F4004 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:54:41 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=akamai.com; s=a1; t=1470171281; bh=7D7SjQau3+hvq7PBu7/Sai9kEG1ATu8tyfor+ltvLRw=; l=864; h=Date:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=COOoFhH1HDFtlSGykCcXOXB+w6tT9HL/ZdHN/bETY1i8L1RVlyA5l785QsHy7C9MF eHqRgrDDn4UILZsdU7EDTlaohb9WsXG9SgMjvsJHG0hPN+h3HF+oTdx+G1aXmTbasZ +PMANPhS9GgVEoPwhszpMlXW0ws0utcY6Axya53M= Received: from bos-lpbwe.kendall.corp.akamai.com (bos-lpbwe.kendall.corp.akamai.com [172.28.9.166]) by prod-mail-relay10.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA9C1FC8D for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:54:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dplonka by bos-lpbwe.kendall.corp.akamai.com with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bUgi0-0001ee-QT for maprg@irtf.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 16:54:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 16:54:40 -0400 From: Dave Plonka To: maprg@irtf.org Message-ID: <20160802205440.GB6220@akamai.com> References: <51B23B63-8C99-4153-9D23-AAEAE9AA9F32@netapp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <51B23B63-8C99-4153-9D23-AAEAE9AA9F32@netapp.com> X-URL: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/ X-VMS-Error: %SYSTEM-F-CHAINW, chained write received X-Shakespearean-Insult: Thou villainous flap-mouthed coxcomb User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: [Maprg] final call for feedback Re: Decision to charter X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 20:54:44 -0000 Hi MAP RG folks, This is an inviation for final feedback on chartering the Research Group! Proposed charter is attached. I've made only minor revisions (essentially formatting). Thanks! Dave On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 02:30:24PM +0000, Eggert, Lars wrote: > Hi, > > I have gotten a lot of good feedback about the proposed MAPRG, and my own impression is also positive. Hence, I've decided to formally charter the RG. > > The first step is for the group to decide whether the current proposed charter text (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-irtf-maprg/) still captures the intended research focus of the group. > > Lars > _______________________________________________ > Maprg mailing list > Maprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg -- plonka@akamai.com http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/ Cambridge, MA From nobody Tue Aug 2 13:56:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4049912D5DE for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 13:55:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.736 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.736 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNRESOLVED_TEMPLATE=1.252] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=akamai.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e4vb8iCIR1-k for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 13:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com (prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com [23.79.238.179]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A18D12D0E6 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 13:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss70 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DAD3F4024 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:55:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prod-mail-relay10.akamai.com (prod-mail-relay10.akamai.com [172.27.118.251]) by prod-mail-xrelay05.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EE83F4014 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:55:55 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=akamai.com; s=a1; t=1470171355; bh=3L0tNu9iOsNHvB4NPqNY3LQbPwkUTOoEkOfjTtPkmNY=; l=3316; h=Date:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=Xln3YOfJLu/r+EFXTqVtw5tWKM1jvcKwkBy5HnYgcb1W3IzBCv9wusUJJwUwlLr7N PTqQ1clubpZQQx1tcLWH5Hc8sIZthKhBcIIsxYBhHa6V5XCuDC4RSEsCfK+pAornwD niRuAayBT0ZyXgbGyEfF97LAgiCoOqe/3HzT4ucU= Received: from bos-lpbwe.kendall.corp.akamai.com (bos-lpbwe.kendall.corp.akamai.com [172.28.9.166]) by prod-mail-relay10.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D611FC86 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:55:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dplonka by bos-lpbwe.kendall.corp.akamai.com with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bUgjD-0001fM-4m for maprg@irtf.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 16:55:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 16:55:55 -0400 From: Dave Plonka To: maprg@irtf.org Message-ID: <20160802205555.GC6220@akamai.com> References: <51B23B63-8C99-4153-9D23-AAEAE9AA9F32@netapp.com> <20160802205440.GB6220@akamai.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160802205440.GB6220@akamai.com> X-URL: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/ X-VMS-Error: %SYSTEM-F-CHAINW, chained write received X-Shakespearean-Insult: Thou villainous flap-mouthed coxcomb User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Maprg] final call for feedback Re: Decision to charter X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 20:55:58 -0000 --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:54:40PM -0400, Dave Plonka wrote: > > Hi MAP RG folks, > > This is an inviation for final feedback on chartering the Research Group! > > Proposed charter is attached. I mean it's attached here. :) -- plonka@akamai.com http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/ Cambridge, MA --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="charter-irtf-maprg-00-01.txt" Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) RG =============================================== Our Internet has grown into something that differs from what was envisioned. Its protocols sometimes operate in an environment other than than that for which they were designed. For instance, some network elements treat some protocols differently than others and those protocols themselves are sometimes reused and abused in ways initially unforeseen. The Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) Research Group (RG) explores such phenomena by measurement with the aim to inform protocol engineering and practice. Many protocol engineering efforts in a standards development context, as well as best practices for the operation of IETF-defined protocols, can benefit from insight provided by Internet measurements of various kinds. Likewise, Internet measurement research efforts can stand to gain from contacts with the IETF. The Measurement and Analysis for Protocol Engineering (MAP) Research Group aims to provide a forum for interchange between these two communities, supporting: - exchange of measurement-derived insight; - discussion of techniques and best practices for measurement relevant to protocol engineering and network operations; - collaborations to share data supporting these measurements; and - a "landing pad" for the Internet measurement community to introduce its efforts to the IETF. Measurements of any layer of the Internet protocol stack or aspect of Internet operations are in-scope for the RG, provided they are relevant to protocol engineering work within the IETF or the operation of IETF protocols. Membership ---------- Membership in the MAP RG is open to all interested parties. Meetings -------- The MAP RG will meet one to three times per year, as deemed necessary by the chairs and according to demand. At least one MAP RG meeting will be co-located with an IETF meeting per year. Given the MAP RG's charter to bridge the gap between Internet standards and measurement communities, the MAP RG may also meet collocated with relevant academic conferences or network operator forums, as appropriate. Meetings are by default open with open attendance and published proceedings, with remote participation and recording as provided by the meeting venue, according to the IRTF's IPR policy. This is always the case with at least one MAP RG meeting co-located with an IETF meeting noted above. However, as deemed necessary, the chairs may hold virtual or physical meetings with restricted attendance to discuss observations which cannot be shared openly, provided that some outcome of such a meeting may be openly shared with the community. --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- From nobody Tue Aug 2 15:23:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1517E12D9DB for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 15:23:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=it-uc3m-es.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f2id0TfeeQVV for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 15:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CD3F12D60A for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 15:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id o80so310222702wme.1 for ; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 15:23:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=it-uc3m-es.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ho3bXkzoBvPKB5i/OHMpp7MLujKqYOUm7xPprQ1+TLk=; b=g0JHCk20RY0qdgvzdsIy84RUpLIY/ef2Ti1Hup8QCDuVlvHAcycHPKchUXGTh1P04j JJ6p2IPrmKvwN0m+UEOQDUJEpSwi94Rgc8TvVRp03xrkFMFGkDH0xMUjyS9dIVBAR6cY 5TlFNLwVZx4cfBaNkxI8v/A02yL0nZhQ/8aI8H4YfGuG4FHKHjSSlAgC1PYgvp8SLej5 NcUiteqEyNfKi5anzQFInvIxgmi+E9JabNp5v0/xC0tkvB00CPax70qXNtTOYHNP7i9x D1Ahh/qbmh3RCrbNj+BbbSvA2xLwQsZhF0iXzqdfTYfsfHPxGHX5yn+kaesYYvPis60N g7xQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ho3bXkzoBvPKB5i/OHMpp7MLujKqYOUm7xPprQ1+TLk=; b=ST8P0H2+BLd8GE0oVAOu7QwBzdW5EqXpSjK9vERvhNtzs8nAfBdAd0CxGPCJP2FBy6 pLdvXdA8khYNNf1EwsrGdg2amOcrizeMU+uRyqc/SRM+JiQCgWyYtcQXn1gqzsvLUkdL EG3pko3WHKUJspR7/8kGJh+t5Sg25OPALrtwoGD/Sreo6qLU3sbO8jz/3ISHOJCWKweb wI43XWNl5LhHNYscSB+45KKw2T5TARaVl7CmSeOnUdhTD/1gNA+WmpvRLn6uCm5ScdYE BPALWmJynAWZVqK78PE5w9HoMXoLeIu0sUyZ2ZoqXNmhsGYUp13Y4JTezAQw7VF9poou 5sbg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvwOQ9KzCMNoNd0e26ET0vqhQzlx9mHq5UxG+HrkOGTH6rTD6rRedhIf6a5/p4MUZem X-Received: by 10.28.64.86 with SMTP id n83mr67308105wma.52.1470176620466; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 15:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Macintosh-6.local (69.173.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es. [95.16.173.69]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x6sm4577357wjk.26.2016.08.02.15.23.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Aug 2016 15:23:39 -0700 (PDT) To: maprg@irtf.org References: <51B23B63-8C99-4153-9D23-AAEAE9AA9F32@netapp.com> <20160802205440.GB6220@akamai.com> <20160802205555.GC6220@akamai.com> From: marcelo bagnulo braun Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 00:23:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160802205555.GC6220@akamai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Maprg] final call for feedback Re: Decision to charter X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 22:23:45 -0000 Looks good to me. El 02/08/16 a las 22:55, Dave Plonka escribió: > On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 04:54:40PM -0400, Dave Plonka wrote: >> Hi MAP RG folks, >> >> This is an inviation for final feedback on chartering the Research Group! >> >> Proposed charter is attached. > I mean it's attached here. :) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maprg mailing list > Maprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg From nobody Wed Aug 3 01:43:30 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 401D212B074 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 01:43:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ogggr-_iR5ma for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 01:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-x22d.google.com (mail-yw0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38BAD12B02B for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 01:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id r9so221619419ywg.0 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2016 01:43:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6ofSZgZzZXMWYWfOuGK3SJzYfapk1ULkcyPrdasj0h0=; b=Ebb3lrQdsAwSK5hUU2AbB6LZyZfCHe/oZPjwz2EcigQW6hHRkj+k/2THyya7uNdWOt asKWfvnbXHBgohMM8ujIp9BLiqiVZu5wRUASUQo4UgIL/k55KTZE4hVmYlxt10XxwF5+ ckWCL+ZlhKjADRzzkbqovkmfMdZd9FNOGKFbw6tf+b+sItx7+DyMrULGjUakXv++0R+k ZBH7541ELJX8fRfrgpDQmvJ4N3/x0UbpeGakk/O58HBr868bZunWaI1cbxhzwcFHcOqo liRsDljapqD1oG4BXdn1jsUMRsAKjVaKwNnjJFVV/tIxzhk0FA6HsqDBXcSRONEFUC65 4x5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6ofSZgZzZXMWYWfOuGK3SJzYfapk1ULkcyPrdasj0h0=; b=XPFjLiZU1HXlI4GqnjGYqoteodcbw+XvCt4QFflFhhPkLGaUZAvcb4cxecpPC9DzzW lcShoMv7hWqdbJcDzMVeaYO/sGsteaxvTeWkBM7C3U/k9CtuDvsFXMzPgc+t6gFnoOLH IHr/wE77bYhNJRoNw+nlfNrehRR5RcmrNhq5jGy87aMFFp+WahiPMybKUZ4csgqs/MVo 6yVRwsfOGPshvWy86LoEPMIZ4aRIQ82MT9srWRZbCh+PqrePOxQ/c4Xrr0iBZxDEw5p7 5wDnZY6sbiAHUITVAwZyz6h9kEghhNi1xSzoXr756JV+zCu7Xyzb+1ezOiadrom/eoZQ rJfg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoout8G8q78iHvI+8KDb4IxJd8sHuzkpGtlxWSwBEA5YQph0To24EPU/Sp57OyYYlgLw== X-Received: by 10.129.56.6 with SMTP id f6mr41633477ywa.277.1470213805857; Wed, 03 Aug 2016 01:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from still.local (184-14-200-84.dr03.chtn.wv.frontiernet.net. [184.14.200.84]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id v185sm2811634ywd.47.2016.08.03.01.43.24 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Aug 2016 01:43:24 -0700 (PDT) To: maprg@irtf.org References: <51B23B63-8C99-4153-9D23-AAEAE9AA9F32@netapp.com> <20160802205440.GB6220@akamai.com> From: Tim Wicinski Message-ID: <86da4a27-e0c2-8799-106b-d8d071007149@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 04:43:24 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/50.0a2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160802205440.GB6220@akamai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Maprg] final call for feedback Re: Decision to charter X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 08:43:29 -0000 I like it, but this piece: "the MAP RG may also meet collocated with relevant academic conference" I think if the goal is outreach, we should do more than "may", and be a 'should' tim On 8/2/16 4:54 PM, Dave Plonka wrote: > > Hi MAP RG folks, > > This is an inviation for final feedback on chartering the Research Group! > > Proposed charter is attached. > I've made only minor revisions (essentially formatting). > > Thanks! > Dave > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 02:30:24PM +0000, Eggert, Lars wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have gotten a lot of good feedback about the proposed MAPRG, and my own impression is also positive. Hence, I've decided to formally charter the RG. >> >> The first step is for the group to decide whether the current proposed charter text (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-irtf-maprg/) still captures the intended research focus of the group. >> >> Lars > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Maprg mailing list >> Maprg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg > > From nobody Wed Aug 3 01:54:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED5A12D1AA for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 01:54:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.487 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.487 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.287] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 90g9Jw8X817C for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 01:54:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch (smtp.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.219]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D488512B074 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 01:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE46D9303; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 10:54:03 +0200 (MEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new on smtp.ee.ethz.ch Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uaedwP6A34L1; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 10:54:02 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [192.168.178.33] (p5DEC26BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.236.38.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mirjak) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB634D9302; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 10:54:02 +0200 (MEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: =?utf-8?Q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= In-Reply-To: <86da4a27-e0c2-8799-106b-d8d071007149@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 10:54:02 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1FAB294A-8A77-4F60-9D63-968A648F547B@tik.ee.ethz.ch> References: <51B23B63-8C99-4153-9D23-AAEAE9AA9F32@netapp.com> <20160802205440.GB6220@akamai.com> <86da4a27-e0c2-8799-106b-d8d071007149@gmail.com> To: Tim Wicinski X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Cc: maprg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [Maprg] final call for feedback Re: Decision to charter X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 08:54:07 -0000 I=E2=80=99d say the foremost goal is to bring researchers and their work = to the IETF because we are looking for data than can be an interesting = input for the on-going protocol design in the IETF itself. Collocating somewhere else is an option we might consider at some point = depending on how the interest in maprg evolves but don=E2=80=99t really = have any plan yet. Mirja =20 > Am 03.08.2016 um 10:43 schrieb Tim Wicinski : >=20 >=20 > I like it, but this piece: >=20 > "the MAP RG may also meet collocated with relevant academic = conference" >=20 > I think if the goal is outreach, we should do more than "may", and be = a 'should' >=20 > tim >=20 > On 8/2/16 4:54 PM, Dave Plonka wrote: >>=20 >> Hi MAP RG folks, >>=20 >> This is an inviation for final feedback on chartering the Research = Group! >>=20 >> Proposed charter is attached. >> I've made only minor revisions (essentially formatting). >>=20 >> Thanks! >> Dave >>=20 >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 02:30:24PM +0000, Eggert, Lars wrote: >>> Hi, >>>=20 >>> I have gotten a lot of good feedback about the proposed MAPRG, and = my own impression is also positive. Hence, I've decided to formally = charter the RG. >>>=20 >>> The first step is for the group to decide whether the current = proposed charter text = (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-irtf-maprg/) still captures = the intended research focus of the group. >>>=20 >>> Lars >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maprg mailing list >>> Maprg@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Maprg mailing list > Maprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg From nobody Wed Aug 3 02:09:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1999127078 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 02:08:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JfTHofMSJitH for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 02:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io0-x230.google.com (mail-io0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19FAB12B043 for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 02:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io0-x230.google.com with SMTP id b62so237426063iod.3 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2016 02:08:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=qVeJ41UB/jP7bnrOx8hKWgf+6OAccoY7B+Fw2a5vQgI=; b=DnvsLxe6++cPzXpSevWCnoVgrCCM5M8UalDtPaXHwKsNKkp7NoKyx1BLBDWx8ovlfN oySK45DbXx5R0iQFQ6cZzA7X2vkK93AWmhiiLc9WH+t4lqVqVMNejZ7RzBr5ePUB5tir VSb+CldVYKkTZaBs0nB8461AVddbXJCow3FZf4yaFHca/F4ufmLEoZMM2JuZI9aZ5g4O BoDUdTil5dkUtfhhwV3+sDOgo+BcrprYWcPdkmFS6z0avt63ZMxE7sOQogVbyA/4ZytQ /APCyydix+qOmPLdbdSB9fhcuHaMh+s9T3EhmsjesOKfjIFMCD54wZzPgoKCnhWezWWn OX6g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qVeJ41UB/jP7bnrOx8hKWgf+6OAccoY7B+Fw2a5vQgI=; b=JCvrHO2q4Xyd14eBnvuFkOhbYC6P2rzbSbVMCeOfp4fW0cSttyArHlPbooaBC0Feow d0+RzsVbKx982MnxbQLwA2Xl3n/oFdKksxaASmCT4Z4Oo/AJOrB3h/BlS3DQV0bV23C9 uzQYJ0Ckm2gFKMGw3JIZKlKIdVIojDGLdI572Z3HgLuu/4s4O8401F3EY6j8Ro7bjHCi J//5ws1gX5JQhtPk4kasQ61UV0JwHjySZgyufEMcOD4kaFqDXn/2N6WHzIM4y4pL0gse YYMv417jcwrtlMh9leKrQmGPy3yLAdIkYlS0US+gzQyypdozewQ8iTeGJcQUTUPTeox4 emyg== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouughRJr8BCuj9Z30RCEXm4IMfGKi/y59aeOdj3Es4kxUkSUzV7cH0WEqgEANpW8EYf8wM4ZvASePXEB1Q== X-Received: by 10.107.25.75 with SMTP id 72mr67224584ioz.50.1470215336414; Wed, 03 Aug 2016 02:08:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.79.96.135 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Aug 2016 02:08:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1FAB294A-8A77-4F60-9D63-968A648F547B@tik.ee.ethz.ch> References: <51B23B63-8C99-4153-9D23-AAEAE9AA9F32@netapp.com> <20160802205440.GB6220@akamai.com> <86da4a27-e0c2-8799-106b-d8d071007149@gmail.com> <1FAB294A-8A77-4F60-9D63-968A648F547B@tik.ee.ethz.ch> From: tjw ietf Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 05:08:55 -0400 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fe4deded1080539272e53 Archived-At: Cc: maprg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [Maprg] final call for feedback Re: Decision to charter X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 09:08:59 -0000 --001a113fe4deded1080539272e53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, If the goal is to bring this research to the IETF, that's fine. On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 4:54 AM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind < mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch> wrote: > I=E2=80=99d say the foremost goal is to bring researchers and their work = to the > IETF because we are looking for data than can be an interesting input for > the on-going protocol design in the IETF itself. > > Collocating somewhere else is an option we might consider at some point > depending on how the interest in maprg evolves but don=E2=80=99t really h= ave any > plan yet. > > Mirja > > > > Am 03.08.2016 um 10:43 schrieb Tim Wicinski : > > > > > > I like it, but this piece: > > > > "the MAP RG may also meet collocated with relevant academic conference" > > > > I think if the goal is outreach, we should do more than "may", and be a > 'should' > > > > tim > > > > On 8/2/16 4:54 PM, Dave Plonka wrote: > >> > >> Hi MAP RG folks, > >> > >> This is an inviation for final feedback on chartering the Research > Group! > >> > >> Proposed charter is attached. > >> I've made only minor revisions (essentially formatting). > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Dave > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 02:30:24PM +0000, Eggert, Lars wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I have gotten a lot of good feedback about the proposed MAPRG, and my > own impression is also positive. Hence, I've decided to formally charter > the RG. > >>> > >>> The first step is for the group to decide whether the current propose= d > charter text (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-irtf-maprg/) still > captures the intended research focus of the group. > >>> > >>> Lars > >> > >> > >> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Maprg mailing list > >>> Maprg@irtf.org > >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Maprg mailing list > > Maprg@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg > > --001a113fe4deded1080539272e53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK, If the goal is to bring this research to the IETF, tha= t's fine. =C2=A0 =C2=A0

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 4:54 AM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch> wrote:
I=E2=80=99d say the foremost goal is to bring rese= archers and their work to the IETF because we are looking for data than can= be an interesting input for the on-going protocol design in the IETF itsel= f.

Collocating somewhere else is an option we might consider at some point dep= ending on how the interest in maprg evolves but don=E2=80=99t really have a= ny plan yet.

Mirja


> Am 03.08.2016 um 10:43 schrieb Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com>:
>
>
> I like it, but this piece:
>
> "the MAP RG may also meet collocated with relevant academic confe= rence"
>
> I think if the goal is outreach, we should do more than "may"= ;, and be a 'should'
>
> tim
>
> On 8/2/16 4:54 PM, Dave Plonka wrote:
>>
>> Hi MAP RG folks,
>>
>> This is an inviation for final feedback on chartering the Research= Group!
>>
>> Proposed charter is attached.
>> I've made only minor revisions (essentially formatting).
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Dave
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 02:30:24PM +0000, Eggert, Lars wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have gotten a lot of good feedback about the proposed MAPRG,= and my own impression is also positive. Hence, I've decided to formall= y charter the RG.
>>>
>>> The first step is for the group to decide whether the current = proposed charter text (https://datatracker.ietf.= org/doc/charter-irtf-maprg/) still captures the intended research focus= of the group.
>>>
>>> Lars
>>
>>
>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Maprg mailing list
>>> Maprg@irtf.org
>>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg<= /a>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Maprg mailing list
> Maprg@irtf.org
> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg


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X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 15:45:39 -0000 Hi all! We have uploaded the meeting minutes: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-maprg If you have spoken at the mic, please check. There are also 1-2 people where the name is missing! Please let us know if there are any edits to do! A big thanks to Michael Welzl for taking the minutes! Mirja and Dave From nobody Tue Aug 9 09:02:16 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3388412D5D5 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 09:02:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.716 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.716 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.247, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNRESOLVED_TEMPLATE=1.252] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=akamai.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b1SLbO1TmP_X for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 09:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prod-mail-xrelay07.akamai.com (prod-mail-xrelay07.akamai.com [23.79.238.175]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC55912D53B for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 09:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prod-mail-xrelay07.akamai.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss70 (Postfix) with ESMTP id D517843344D; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 16:02:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from prod-mail-relay10.akamai.com (prod-mail-relay10.akamai.com [172.27.118.251]) by prod-mail-xrelay07.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE44433410; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 16:02:11 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=akamai.com; s=a1; t=1470758531; bh=dWB2jFlVYhMyz0SdzTQAHXSOQujAu4JIZQkelenhGck=; l=808; h=Date:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=k4TBUIZIaYIH3E9wR3VH9r5q2DSUeJ3FNYC0PEb1/5F0e5QlF7rekmiiQ/8NOrVVx mnogyV9Hcb93zGi03cbh68iGBCN8Ubcjz7fAudZJE/W80dxlMTFQuYC0v0AAuiLKB6 0T4EeTevFUnUGOd8hwBEHrem2InK/vbExWsoa/fw= Received: from bos-lpbwe.kendall.corp.akamai.com (bos-lpbwe.kendall.corp.akamai.com [172.28.9.166]) by prod-mail-relay10.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0C01FCC7; Tue, 9 Aug 2016 16:02:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dplonka by bos-lpbwe.kendall.corp.akamai.com with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bX9Tn-0007Q0-14; Tue, 09 Aug 2016 12:02:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 12:02:11 -0400 From: Dave Plonka To: maprg@irtf.org Message-ID: <20160809160210.GA28482@akamai.com> References: <57A9FA68.8020800@tik.ee.ethz.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <57A9FA68.8020800@tik.ee.ethz.ch> X-URL: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/ X-VMS-Error: %SYSTEM-W-IVLOGTAB, invalid logical name table X-Shakespearean-Insult: Thou impertinent knotty-pated measle User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Cc: Mirja =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=FChlewind?= Subject: Re: [Maprg] Minutes uploaded! X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:02:14 -0000 On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 05:44:40PM +0200, Mirja Kühlewind wrote: > > We have uploaded the meeting minutes: > > https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-maprg > > If you have spoken at the mic, please check. There are also 1-2 > people where the name is missing! Please let us know if there are > any edits to do! The YouTube version of the MeetEcho video recording is here: IETF96-MAPRG-20160718-1800 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkAS_Ht6J6U It's convenient in that it autoplays and you can specify a start time in the URL, e.g.: Beyond Counting: ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkAS_Ht6J6U#t=25m9s > A big thanks to Michael Welzl for taking the minutes! Thanks, Michael! 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On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Dave Plonka wrote: > > Hi MAP RG folks, > > This is an inviation for final feedback on chartering the Research Group! > > Proposed charter is attached. > I've made only minor revisions (essentially formatting). > > Thanks! > Dave > I applaud the decision to request chartering MAPRG, and several times, I've said "this is a job for MAPRG" in discussions in the IETF TSV area. Thank you folks for acting like an IRTF research group for a year[1]. It will be great when that's official. :-) Spencer [1] from https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7418#section-3: The current IRTF Chair, Lars Eggert, is fond of saying, "Just act like an IRTF research group for a year, and we'll see if you are one." > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 02:30:24PM +0000, Eggert, Lars wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have gotten a lot of good feedback about the proposed MAPRG, and my > own impression is also positive. Hence, I've decided to formally charter > the RG. > > > > The first step is for the group to decide whether the current proposed > charter text (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-irtf-maprg/) still > captures the intended research focus of the group. > > > > Lars > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Maprg mailing list > > Maprg@irtf.org > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg > > > -- > plonka@akamai.com http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/ Cambridge, MA > > _______________________________________________ > Maprg mailing list > Maprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg > --f403045c6656ee66ba0539cc32a4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Speaking as an IETF AD here ...
=
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Dave Plonka = <plonka@akamai.com> wrote:

Hi MAP RG folks,

This is an inviation for final feedback on chartering the Research Group!
Proposed charter is attached.
I've made only minor revisions (essentially formatting).

Thanks!
Dave

I applaud the decision to request = chartering MAPRG, and several times, I've said "this is a job for = MAPRG" in discussions in the IETF TSV area.

T= hank you folks for acting like an IRTF research group for a year[1]. It wil= l be great when that's official. :-)

Spencer

[1] from https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7418#section-3:=C2=A0

   The current IRTF Chair, Lars=
 Eggert, is fond of saying, "Just act
   like an IRTF research group for a year, and we'll see if you are
   one."
=C2=A0

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 02:30:24PM +0000, Eggert, Lars wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have gotten a lot of good feedback about the proposed MAPRG, and my = own impression is also positive. Hence, I've decided to formally charte= r the RG.
>
> The first step is for the group to decide whether the current proposed= charter text (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-irtf-maprg/) still captures the intended research focus of= the group.
>
> Lars



> _______________________________________________
> Maprg mailing list
> Maprg@irtf.org
> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg=


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plonka@akamai.com=C2=A0 http= ://www.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/=C2=A0 Cambridge, MA

_______________________________________________
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Maprg@irtf.org
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boundary="Apple-Mail=_EC5DE3A7-45C7-4936-A82C-1BAC2D0AE01E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: Internet Architecture Board , "Internet Research Steering Group \(irsg@irtf.org\)" Subject: [Maprg] MAPRG chartered X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 11:06:28 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_EC5DE3A7-45C7-4936-A82C-1BAC2D0AE01E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, the MAPRG was just officially chartered: https://irtf.org/maprg Lars --Apple-Mail=_EC5DE3A7-45C7-4936-A82C-1BAC2D0AE01E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXutuAAAoJEFS1wwm/cMFX/uUP/2iDI7BPQmHDKF/1MOontNMD L4NQm1iIuMCeRyU8b11cQT84eqhv5GRsfg5pKDoWv1cHb7h5hCHvhZEm6kByuw9/ GsOsSG8xefpxr8egdLXpE6ijQ+MyB1+3IDPi1w+U8PkfS+fh9+j7sIofzpJGIaEH GpUP3qSpYUChRphmZEjTph8QH5R0ddJUxHaLTXXMFNgW7jF8U7mQo+ZO1uZrL9pn h+yADBs/YH0iqC7nmHLcRa6CbWxasMPmAUcY2xwHKsGLVdGJevXlXdEdThfkLHA2 ZqqIM09Z9MUxJuVWtdirpyeXvxyJCwOdQI25/l2SFfs5QFtCcAeeJdmcCfFVOgyr iHR68DfgP6GQcNhqCrOsMN9CqtOXnP2EFlWJfmZIKoaCdZI8mlxxO3h4pgm5h4H9 geok+DV4of6+o17mmhG0viswBFkH3Z+CVyHYq5Y0TuOg3ezyrMrcK5ke205m4O1T ZH1VVS9sof31uCrRyu+3EhcP5d/Y4jko/39myT9nNkz+zjQqdE8usQEy0cSRd4N7 atOIm+EiJ98bInegrxpx3/R30FP29DzA03vqEt52punI/YUhIZHdAxOXUQtEMgpU Kv+NZ1UwecIZxd5ZP8fcbO1KgHuqYzUnC1x/HV8PIVggm7ebKvpQgYuT7U3mhV86 8vf7cnzBWRQgTs+7RLIe =4fea -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_EC5DE3A7-45C7-4936-A82C-1BAC2D0AE01E-- From nobody Mon Aug 22 05:50:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA34712D18A for ; 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boundary=94eb2c07e9de911d71053aa970d2 Archived-At: Cc: "maprg@irtf.org" , "Eggert, Lars" Subject: Re: [Maprg] MAPRG chartered X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2016 13:58:18 -0000 --94eb2c07e9de911d71053aa970d2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lars, On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind < mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch> wrote: > Yeah! Thanks! Thanks from me as well! Spencer > > > On 22.08.2016 13:01, Eggert, Lars wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> the MAPRG was just officially chartered: https://irtf.org/maprg >> >> Lars >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maprg mailing list >> Maprg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Maprg mailing list > Maprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg > --94eb2c07e9de911d71053aa970d2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lars,

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:49 AM, Mirja K=C3=BChlewind <= mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch> wrote:
Yeah! Thanks!

Thanks from me = as well!

Spencer
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On 22.08.2016 13:01, Eggert, Lars wrote:
Hi,

the MAPRG was just officially chartered: https://irtf.org/maprg

Lars



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Great news - thanks!

I'm looking forward to the= group continuing to deliver timely, real measurement results that are pert= inent to Internet development and operation.

Dave

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:01 AM, Egg= ert, Lars <lars@netapp.com> wrote:
Hi,

the MAPRG was just officially chartered: https://irtf.org/maprg

Lars

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