From mobike-bounces@machshav.com Thu Nov 09 22:03:56 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiMgO-00037a-49 for mobike-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:03:56 -0500 Received: from machshav.com ([147.28.0.16]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiMgJ-0004wa-Oq for mobike-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:03:56 -0500 Received: by machshav.com (Postfix, from userid 512) id B1097FB2E0; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from machshav.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by machshav.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998A1FB2D8; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:03:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: mobike@machshav.com Delivered-To: mobike@machshav.com Received: by machshav.com (Postfix, from userid 512) id 7F45CFB2D8; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:03:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by machshav.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9750FB2D1 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id p31so404934ugc for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.204.7 with SMTP id b7mr2090076hug.1163127811021; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.106.16 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:03:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:03:31 -0500 From: "Shaili Desai" To: mobike@machshav.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Mobike] MOBIKE -IPv6 X-BeenThere: mobike@machshav.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile/Multihoming IKEv2 IETF list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1280550486==" Sender: mobike-bounces@machshav.com Errors-To: mobike-bounces@machshav.com X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 50a516d93fd399dc60588708fd9a3002 --===============1280550486== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_47061_24770985.1163127811001" ------=_Part_47061_24770985.1163127811001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello all I am new to this group.I am doing my project in Mobile VPN and was going through the RFCs and drafts on MOBIKE but had a query,whether MOBIKE is applicable to IPv6 as of now. Thanks in advance. -- Thanx Shaili Desai Master's Candidate Telecommunications and Management University of Maryland,College Park,USA ------=_Part_47061_24770985.1163127811001 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hello all
 
I am new to this group.I am doing my project in Mobile VPN and was going through the RFCs and drafts on MOBIKE but had a query,whether MOBIKE is applicable to IPv6 as of now.
 
Thanks in advance.

--
Thanx
Shaili Desai
Master's Candidate
Telecommunications and Management
University of Maryland,College Park,USA
------=_Part_47061_24770985.1163127811001-- --===============1280550486== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mobike mailing list Mobike@machshav.com https://www.machshav.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mobike --===============1280550486==-- From mobike-bounces@machshav.com Thu Nov 09 22:28:30 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiN4A-0001P5-Ul for mobike-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:28:30 -0500 Received: from machshav.com ([147.28.0.16]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GiN46-0003Y7-Ic for mobike-archive@lists.ietf.org; Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:28:30 -0500 Received: by machshav.com (Postfix, from userid 512) id 26F4BFB2E4; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from machshav.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by machshav.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4598BFB2D8; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:28:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: mobike@machshav.com Delivered-To: mobike@machshav.com Received: by machshav.com (Postfix, from userid 512) id 2BB30FB2D9; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.kivinen.iki.fi (fireball.acr.fi [83.145.195.1]) by machshav.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A907FB2D2 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id kAA3SB39026075 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 10 Nov 2006 05:28:12 +0200 (EET) Received: (from kivinen@localhost) by fireball.kivinen.iki.fi (8.13.8/8.12.11) id kAA3SBsV021771; Fri, 10 Nov 2006 05:28:11 +0200 (EET) X-Authentication-Warning: fireball.kivinen.iki.fi: kivinen set sender to kivinen@iki.fi using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <17747.61899.656127.167080@fireball.kivinen.iki.fi> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 05:28:11 +0200 From: Tero Kivinen To: "Shaili Desai" In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.4.1 X-Edit-Time: 2 min X-Total-Time: 2 min Cc: mobike@machshav.com Subject: [Mobike] MOBIKE -IPv6 X-BeenThere: mobike@machshav.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile/Multihoming IKEv2 IETF list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mobike-bounces@machshav.com Errors-To: mobike-bounces@machshav.com X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7a6398bf8aaeabc7a7bb696b6b0a2aad Shaili Desai writes: > I am new to this group.I am doing my project in Mobile VPN and was going > through the RFCs and drafts on MOBIKE but had a query,whether MOBIKE is > applicable to IPv6 as of now. It should work with IPv4, IPv6 or mixed IPv4/IPv6 network, even when moving from IPv4 address to IPv6 addres and back. -- kivinen@safenet-inc.com _______________________________________________ Mobike mailing list Mobike@machshav.com https://www.machshav.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mobike From mobike-bounces@machshav.com Mon Nov 13 00:46:37 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjUeT-00079q-Sx for mobike-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:46:37 -0500 Received: from machshav.com ([147.28.0.16]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GjUeS-00012K-Dj for mobike-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:46:37 -0500 Received: by machshav.com (Postfix, from userid 512) id AAEE3FB2C2; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from machshav.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by machshav.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B949EFB2B0; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:46:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: mobike@machshav.com Delivered-To: mobike@machshav.com Received: by machshav.com (Postfix, from userid 512) id AA755FB2B7; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by machshav.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BB9FB2AC for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id x37so1802023nfc for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.171.13 with SMTP id t13mr5851453hue.1163396782035; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.106.16 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:46:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:46:22 -0500 From: "Shaili Desai" To: mobike@machshav.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Mobike] MOBIKE -existing Mobile VPN X-BeenThere: mobike@machshav.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile/Multihoming IKEv2 IETF list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1372484361==" Sender: mobike-bounces@machshav.com Errors-To: mobike-bounces@machshav.com X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Scan-Signature: b280b4db656c3ca28dd62e5e0b03daa8 --===============1372484361== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_77775_628606.1163396782020" ------=_Part_77775_628606.1163396782020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello all I was reading through RFC 4555 and could understand that MOBIKE adds additional notification messages containing additional IP addresses and sends these notifications when it detects mutlitple IP addresses. I have couple of questions: 1)How does MOBIKE add more features than existing Mobile VPN solutions like Cisco Mobile VPN and also Netmotion Wireless.Though Netmotion does it through Virtual IP addresses. I am not able to figure out,that Cisco Mobile VPN makes IPsec tunnel run inside MIP tunnel and so to end user it is still transparent and it maintains the VPN connection with mobility. 2) So does MOBIKE , implement MIP tunnel inside the IPsec tunnel?As in the RFC it says the outer header is the address which would change and not the inner header of the tunnel. So, does MOBIKE apply the case 1, that is section 2.1 of RFC 4093? 3) Also are there any figures and data available which says that MOBIKE does improve the performance over existing Mobile VPN solutions.Were there any performance tests which gave us the data, that clearly states the requirement of MOBIKE over existing Mobile VPN solutions? It would be great if someone can respond to my query. I am trying to work on Mobile VPN for heterogenous networks, as my MS research study at University of Maryland. And if someone can help me answer these questions, I would be more than glad. Thanks in advance and sorry if I am asking too naive questions. -- Thanx Shaili Desai Master's Candidate Telecommunications and Management University of Maryland,College Park,USA ------=_Part_77775_628606.1163396782020 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hello all
 
I was reading through RFC 4555 and could understand that MOBIKE adds additional notification messages containing additional IP addresses and sends these notifications when it detects mutlitple IP addresses.
I have couple of questions:
 
1)How does MOBIKE add more features than existing Mobile VPN solutions like Cisco Mobile VPN and also Netmotion Wireless.Though Netmotion does it through Virtual IP addresses.
I am not able to figure out,that Cisco Mobile VPN makes IPsec tunnel run inside MIP tunnel and so to end user it  is still transparent and it maintains the VPN connection with mobility.
2) So does MOBIKE , implement MIP tunnel inside the IPsec tunnel?As in the RFC it says the outer header is the address which would change and not the inner header of the tunnel. So, does MOBIKE apply the case 1, that is section 2.1 of RFC 4093?
3) Also are there any figures and data available which says that MOBIKE does improve the performance over existing Mobile VPN solutions.Were there any performance tests which gave us the data, that clearly states the requirement of MOBIKE over existing Mobile VPN solutions?
It would be great if someone can respond to my query. I am trying to work on Mobile VPN for heterogenous networks, as my MS research study at University of Maryland.
 
And if  someone can help me answer these questions, I would be more than glad.
 
Thanks in advance and sorry if I am asking too naive questions.

--
Thanx
Shaili Desai
Master's Candidate
Telecommunications and Management
University of Maryland,College Park,USA
------=_Part_77775_628606.1163396782020-- --===============1372484361== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mobike mailing list Mobike@machshav.com https://www.machshav.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/mobike --===============1372484361==-- From mobike-bounces@machshav.com Mon Nov 27 12:15:14 2006 Received: from [10.91.34.44] (helo=ietf-mx.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gok4Y-00033K-Us for mobike-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:15:14 -0500 Received: from machshav.com ([147.28.0.16]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gok4R-0002Yh-NU for mobike-archive@lists.ietf.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:15:14 -0500 Received: by machshav.com (Postfix, from userid 512) id CB2F8FB518; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from machshav.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by machshav.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18946FB510; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:14:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: mobike@machshav.com Delivered-To: mobike@machshav.com Received: by machshav.com (Postfix, from userid 512) id EC457FB513; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from michael.checkpoint.com (michael.checkpoint.com [194.29.32.68]) by machshav.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F813FB50E for ; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with SMTP id kARHEA6D027712; Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:14:23 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: <200611271714.kARHEA6D027712@michael.checkpoint.com> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:13:38 +0200 From: Yaron Sheffer To: ipsec@ietf.org, mobike@machshav.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Outlook Connector 7.1.228.0 X-imss-version: 2.043 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-scores: Clean:99.90000 C:2 M:6 S:5 R:5 X-imss-settings: Baseline:1 C:1 M:1 S:1 R:1 (0.0000 0.0000) Cc: Yoav Nir Subject: [Mobike] FW: I-D ACTION:draft-sheffer-ipsec-secure-beacon-01.txt X-BeenThere: mobike@machshav.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9rc1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile/Multihoming IKEv2 IETF list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mobike-bounces@machshav.com Errors-To: mobike-bounces@machshav.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 0fa76816851382eb71b0a882ccdc29ac Hi, Sorry if you receive this mail twice. Yoav and I would appreciate any comments you may have to this draft, either privately or to the IPsec mailing list. Thanks, Yaron -----Original Message----- From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org] Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 17:50 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-sheffer-ipsec-secure-beacon-01.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Secure Beacon: Securely Detecting a Trusted Network Author(s) : Y. Nir, Y. Sheffer Filename : draft-sheffer-ipsec-secure-beacon-01.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2006-11-27 Remote access clients, in particular IPsec-based ones, are heavily deployed in enterprise environments. In many enterprises the security policy allows remote-access clients to switch to unprotected operation when entering the trusted network. This document specifies a method that lets a client detect this situation in a secure manner, with the help of a security gateway. We propose a minor extension to IKEv2 to achieve this goal. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sheffer-ipsec-secure-beacon-01.txt To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to i-d-announce-request@ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. You can also visit https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D-announce to change your subscription settings. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-sheffer-ipsec-secure-beacon-01.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv@ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-sheffer-ipsec-secure-beacon-01.txt". 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