From sentto-327560-14849-1073585635-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 12:25:55 2004 Received: from n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.99]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA15150 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:25:54 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14849-1073585635-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.95] by n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:13:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 92237 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 18:13:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 18:13:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 18:13:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.218.66.140] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:13:53 -0000 X-Sender: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 20412 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 03:35:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 03:35:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.64) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 03:35:29 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net ([68.19.87.232]) by imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040108033528.BYLO1884.imf16aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bellsouth.net> for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 22:35:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3FFCD032.E11DE060@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: "NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com" X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.64 From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net X-Yahoo-Profile: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 08 Jan 2004 18:13:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 22:36:18 -0500 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] PCTEL adds to Wi-Fi line with purchase of MAXRAD Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PCTEL adds to Wi-Fi line with purchase of MAXRAD January 6, 2004 BY HOWARD WOLINSKY Business Reporter PCTEL, (See http://www.pctel.com/index.php) the Chicago wireless communications technology company, has acquired MAXRAD, (See http://www.maxrad.com/index.cgi) a Hanover Park maker of antennas for wireless systems, expanding its wireless product line. "We're very excited about this acquisition," Chairman Martin Singer said of the $20 million purchase. "This helps us expand in the wireless arena. Everything we do now is wireless." Singer said Monday there are no plans for layoffs at MAXRAD, which employs about 90, most of them in Hanover Park. The acquisition doubles PCTEL's staff. The new company has 115 employees in the Chicago area. Steve Deppe, MAXRAD's president, will continue with PCTEL as a vice president and general manager of the MAXRAD operation. He said customers will benefit "from the enhanced synergies that come from being part of a larger focused wireless organization." Privately held MAXRAD is a major supplier of antennas to manufacturers of wireless equipment, including Motor-ola's two-way radios for public safety agencies, Cisco's routers, Trimble's Global Positioning System devices and Proxim's Wi-Fi access points. Germantown, Md.-based DTI, which PCTEL acquired last March, purchases MAXRAD antennas for software-defined radios used by cellular phone companies to test their systems and eliminate interference and by government agencies and the military to find and block intruders on secure radio networks. Singer noted MAXRAD has had significant growth in ant-ennas for Wi-Fi devices, a major PCTEL focus. He added that MAXRAD also was an attractive acquisition because "it has an incredibly well-established distribution network, reaching markets of interest to us," such as government agencies. He said he expects the MAXRAD unit will generate about $20 million in sales this year, adding to the $30 million estimated for the rest of PCTEL. PCTEL last year exited the modem business to devote itself to emerging wireless opportunities, especially Wi-Fi products. PCTEL developed the Segue Roaming Client to help people using Wi-Fi to seamlessly roam from one Wi-Fi network to another and to cellular networks. Shares closed Monday at $11.06, up 36 cents, or 3.4 percent. http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/cst-fin-pctel06.html -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEXTEL-1/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: NEXTEL-1-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From sentto-327560-14848-1073585627-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 12:26:25 2004 Received: from n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.71]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA15242 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:26:24 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14848-1073585627-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.156] by n16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:13:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 35547 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 18:13:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 18:13:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.99) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 18:13:40 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: zerg90@webtv.net Received: from [66.218.67.252] by n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:13:40 -0000 X-Sender: zerg90@webtv.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@onelist.com Received: (qmail 59946 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 13:52:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 13:52:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtpout-3101.bay.webtv.net) (209.240.204.192) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 13:52:11 -0000 Received: from storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net (bay-6me-tv-1a-natpool-1.bay.webtv.net [209.240.207.249]) by smtpout-3101.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id A6951BE18; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 05:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-f/mt.gso.26Feb98) id FAA13183; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 05:52:06 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQd3SzChE8bwh0Yt+s+nzENDrtLTgIVAIzcjKmjxJkinihig83TJqnSpny5 To: firerad2@onelist.com Cc: firerad2@smartgroups.com, firealert@onelist.com, NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <13626-3FFD6086-4239@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net> X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 209.240.204.192 X-eGroups-From: zerg90@webtv.net (Peter Sz) From: zerg90@webtv.net X-Yahoo-Profile: hithel X-eGroups-Edited-By: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 08 Jan 2004 18:13:40 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:52:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: [NEXTEL-1] 2 news articles Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody know if radio problems played a role in these incidents? Peter S SUICIDE plan may have led to shooting of 2 officers AL.com, AL ... The caller asked the dispatcher to send out FBI agents. When none responded, he called back and asked the dispatcher to send police officers. ... (only static was heard on the radio after the first officer arrived, and before the 2nd officer was killed) REACH crew never explained turnaround Santa Rosa Press Democrat, CA ... that the CDF station received no further communication from the flight crew after 7:31 pm, the time of the last transmission between the crew and a dispatcher ... -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From sentto-327560-14850-1073585638-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 12:28:29 2004 Received: from n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.76]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA15368 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:28:28 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14850-1073585638-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.157] by n20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:14:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 33896 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 18:13:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 18:13:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 18:13:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.218.67.131] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:13:56 -0000 X-Sender: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 63049 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 00:10:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 00:10:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.67) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 00:10:13 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net ([68.219.195.215]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040108001012.UQUI1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bellsouth.net>; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 19:10:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3FFCA01A.47BC2731@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: "NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com" , WFHSG X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.67 From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net X-Yahoo-Profile: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 08 Jan 2004 18:13:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.80 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 19:11:06 -0500 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] M/A-Com to provide 800 MHz IP-based OpenSky system to Central Arizona Project Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit M/A-COM Wins $5 Million Contract to Provide 800 MHz Interoperable Communications System for the Central Arizona Project OpenSky Network will Connect More Than 400 Personnel Along 336 Mile Aqueduct in Central and Southern Arizona Lowell, MA. January 6, 2004 M/A-COM, Inc., a business unit of Tyco Electronics and a leading manufacturer of critical radio systems deployed around the world, was awarded a $5 million contract to provide a digital wireless communications system for the Central Arizona Project (CAP) (See http://www.cap-az.com//index.cfm). M/A-COM will implement its OpenSky solution, a wireless private communications network based on Internet Protocol (IP) technologies that will connect more than 400 Central Arizona Project personnel and provide direct interoperability between CAP and emergency, municipal and other utility agencies. The OpenSky technology also will allow Central Arizona Project to host four conversations on each of their existing radio channels, substantially improving system capacity. Central Arizona Project operates and maintains a 336 mile long aqueduct that delivers water from the Colorado River to central and southern Arizona, providing a renewable source of water for residential, industrial and agricultural uses. M/A-COM is deploying an 800 MHz OpenSky digital wireless network for integrated voice and data connectivity along the entire aqueduct and along roads in the region. A key safety element of this digital wireless system is the incorporation of GPS (Global Positioning System) into each mobile radio. "The Central Arizona Project is the largest source of renewable water supply across central and southern Arizona," said Bruce Wilcox, Electronics Department Manager of Central Arizona Project. "Safeguarding this installation is critical for the well being of the state because it impacts everything from farming and irrigation to safe and clean drinking water. M/A-COM offered a network solution that will easily adapt to our current communications systems. OpenSky's TDMA technology will give CAP additional voice capacity and data capability while improving coverage in the more rural areas of our service area, helping to ensure the safety of our employees and the public." Design and installation of the system has begun with full implementation to be completed in the summer of 2004. In addition to ground communications, M/A-COM's OpenSky IP network will provide interconnectivity with all of the Project's helicopters, which operate on conventional VHF channels. This is accomplished with M/A-COM's IP gateways, which establish permanent and user-transparent links between different radio systems. "We are honored to have been awarded such an important and critical project for the state of Arizona," said Tom Hoyne, Director, Utility Markets for M/A-COM, Inc. Capacity and interoperability were critical factors in CAP's decision criteria and M/A-COM was selected because our solution best met those requirements. M/A-COM offered a fully interoperable 800 MHz communications network that will enable CAP personnel to tap into outside public safety agencies and first responders in times of crisis." About the OpenSky Network The OpenSky system is a wireless private network that enables efficient voice and data communications between municipal, utility and public safety departments. The technology behind OpenSky - end-to-end Internet Protocol (IP) and a time-division multiple access (TDMA) airlink - allows for multiple features including: a.. Digital and analog radio interoperability with systems of any type, including those not part of the OpenSky network b.. Enhanced data capability for quick exchange of data files, including work orders and telemetry, with mobile and fixed devices c.. Efficient use of radio frequencies by allowing four simultaneous conversations on each radio frequency channel d.. Integrated Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking capability for increased safety e.. 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From sentto-327560-14853-1073586552-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 12:38:35 2004 Received: from n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.66]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA17482 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:38:34 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14853-1073586552-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.156] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:29:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 80718 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 18:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 18:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 18:29:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.218.67.191] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:29:07 -0000 X-Sender: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 6416 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 18:24:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 18:24:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.67) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 18:24:48 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net ([68.223.74.186]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040108182448.KDAN1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bellsouth.net>; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:24:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3FFDA0A8.8C7D4314@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: WFHSG , "NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com" X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.67 From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net X-Yahoo-Profile: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 08 Jan 2004 18:29:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.80 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:25:44 -0500 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] GPS / AVL Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -------- Original Message -------- From: "Larry Norman" Subject: GPS / AVL I have an application for 20 AVL units in a county wide area of operation. I need simple location on demand information without any telemetry type functions. I would like some input on the advantages and disadvantages of satellite applications, cellular applications, typical recurring costs, and experience with tracking service providers and equipment manufacturers. I would also like advice from people who have added AVL to an existing two-way radio system; equipment options, software options, etc. Thanks, Larry Norman Pike Electric Mount Airy, NC -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From sentto-327560-14851-1073586548-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 12:49:04 2004 Received: from n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.105]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA17803 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:49:04 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14851-1073586548-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.96] by n37.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:29:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 44471 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 18:29:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 18:29:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.66) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 18:29:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.218.67.191] by n11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:29:07 -0000 X-Sender: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 31932 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 18:26:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 18:26:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.67) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 18:26:11 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net ([68.223.74.186]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040108182611.KDOM1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:26:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FFDA0FD.94271D7E@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: "NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com" X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.67 From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net X-Yahoo-Profile: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 08 Jan 2004 18:29:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.66 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:27:09 -0500 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] RE:Consumers Union "Escape Cell Hell" web site Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -------- Original Message -------- From: "Smith, William E. (US-BKTN-Telecom)" Subject: RE: Consumers Union "Escape Cell Hell" web site I'm not impressed. From a quick look at the site, it has some basic problems, such as complaining about not being able to take your phone from a TDMA carrier to a CDMA carrier. I don't know of any phones that do both. Then again, I'm only a cellular user. I've always been given literature with a disclaimer about coverage. Not only when I first signed up, but when I changed plans too. As for billing, I've only had one problem since I first got a cell phone back in 1986 and that was a typo when I upgraded my plan which cost me $30.00 and was promptly credited and the typo resolved when I noticed it on my bill. I would have thought an outfit like Consumer's would have done at least some basic research on the subject but it doesn't look like it. These are my opinions and NOT those of my employer! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From sentto-327560-14854-1073587025-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 12:49:36 2004 Received: from n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.82]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id MAA17884 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:49:35 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14854-1073587025-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.201] by n26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:37:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 95894 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 18:37:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 18:37:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 18:37:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.218.67.138] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:37:01 -0000 X-Sender: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 95954 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 18:30:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 18:30:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.67) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 18:30:56 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net ([68.223.74.186]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040108183056.KFOT1950.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:30:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FFDA219.FB6ED84C@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: "NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com" X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.67 From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net X-Yahoo-Profile: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 08 Jan 2004 18:37:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:31:53 -0500 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] Motorola gets license on tracking tech Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Motorola gets license on tracking tech By BRUCE MEYERSON AP BUSINESS WRITER Thursday, January 8, 2004 NEW YORK Motorola Inc. is licensing wireless technology (See http://www.woz.com/) from a startup led by Apple Computer co-founder Steve Wozniak to develop devices and services that can monitor the locations of people, pets or important possessions. The vague announcement, slated for release Thursday, does not call for the development of any particular type of device or the addition of the technology to specific products already made by Motorola such as cell phones, pagers and walkie-talkies. Still, the deal marks the first major technology endorsement for Wheels of Zeus Inc., which hopes to parlay a combination of innovation and Wozniak's cachet into success despite the existence of other devices that can track the location of children, pets and Alzheimer's patients. "We're trying to make new inroads and do something that has been done at higher cost and bring it down to everyday prices," Wozniak said in an interview with The Associated Press. The wireless platform, dubbed "wOzNet" as a play on Wozniak's nickname, uses a wireless tag that picks up signals from global positioning satellites, then transmits that information up to several miles to a base station or other receiving device using a low-power radio signal - the same spectrum used by many cordless phones. Motorola plans to use the technology within its home broadband division, which makes cable TV boxes, modems and wireless networking products. More specific product announcements could come later in 2004, both companies said. Potential product developments might include a standalone tracking device and base station as well as integration within cell phones and other portable devices, personal computers and future home networking systems. Likewise, the wireless tracking is handled in different ways. One possibility is direct communication between two devices. "Let's say you're a parent, you have four kids, and as soon as they hit the amusement park they run in four directions," said Vince Izzo, director of business development in consumer solutions business for Motorola Broadband. "You could set the thing to let you know if any of them is more than 50 feet away from you." Going a step further, if a parent wants to monitor an older child without going to the amusement park, a cell phone company or the operators of the park could track the child's location and transmit that information over the Internet to a base station at home. Wozniak said he personally prefers the notion of using a device and base station designed specifically for tracking rather than incorporating the technology in a cell phone and a home computer. "I don't like the approach where the computer gets used for 10 different things," he said. "If the thermostat is on the wall, leave it on the wall. I don't like complicating your computer life." He'd also rather have the tracking devices communicate directly rather than through a service provider charging a fee. Between regular telephone service, cellular, cable TV and Wi-Fi, "People are getting a little leery of one more high-priced monthly service bill," Wozniak said. Gina Clark, vice president of marketing and business development for Wheels of Zeus, said the company continues to seek other partners in developing uses for its technology, but that "our premier partner is clearly Motorola" for consumer products. \ http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&oi=news&start=0&num=1&q=http://www.chicagotribune.com/technology/chi-040108moto,1,1364685.story%3Fcoll%3Dchi-technology-hed -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG Yahoo! 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Hitachi and Pharos Partner to Bring Pharos' GPS/LBS Application to Hitachi G1000
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--------------AC3C88A488313ABA0D71C29A-- From sentto-327560-14841-1073503568-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 14:27:24 2004 Received: from n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.78]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA27993 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:27:22 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14841-1073503568-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.193] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2004 19:26:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 70164 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2004 19:26:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2004 19:26:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.106) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2004 19:26:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.218.67.136] by n38.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2004 19:25:57 -0000 X-Sender: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 53683 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2004 19:25:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2004 19:25:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.70) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2004 19:25:11 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net ([68.154.42.71]) by imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040107192511.OKNG1951.imf22aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bellsouth.net>; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:25:11 -0500 Message-ID: <3FFC5D4E.A2D06053@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: "NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com" , WFHSG X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.70 From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net X-Yahoo-Profile: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 07 Jan 2004 19:25:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.106 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:26:06 -0500 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] Amendment of Parts 1, 22, 24, 27, and 90 to Streamline and Harmonize Various Rules Affecting Wireless Radio Services Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the Matter of Biennial Regulatory Review Amendment of Parts 1, 22, 24, 27, and 90 to Streamline and Harmonize Various Rules Affecting Wireless Radio Services WT Docket No. 03-264 Released January 7, 2004 http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-03-334A1.doc -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From sentto-327560-14852-1073586549-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 14:27:27 2004 Received: from n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.78]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA28006 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:27:25 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14852-1073586549-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.195] by n22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:29:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 56399 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 18:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 18:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.80) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 18:29:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: hrasmussen@nc.rr.com Received: from [66.218.67.191] by n24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 18:29:07 -0000 X-Sender: hrasmussen@nc.rr.com X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75322 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 18:26:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 18:26:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay2.softcomca.com) (168.144.1.60) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 18:26:45 -0000 Received: from M2W054.mail2web.com ([168.144.251.161]) by relay2.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:26:45 -0500 Message-ID: <39020-22004148182644403@M2W054.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jan 2004 18:26:45.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[F8808C90:01C3D614] X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 168.144.1.60 From: "hrasmussen@nc.rr.com" X-Originating-IP: 4.21.127.252 X-Yahoo-Profile: hbwr X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 08 Jan 2004 18:29:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.80 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:26:44 -0500 Subject: RE: [NEXTEL-1] M/A-Com to provide 800 MHz IP-based OpenSky system toCentral Arizona Project Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did they ever make the Pennsylvania system work? Rik Rasmussen radios4sale Yahoo Group Moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/radios4sale/ Original Message: ----------------- From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 19:11:06 -0500 To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com, WFHSG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [NEXTEL-1] M/A-Com to provide 800 MHz IP-based OpenSky system toCentral Arizona Project M/A-COM Wins $5 Million Contract to Provide 800 MHz Interoperable Communications System for the Central Arizona Project OpenSky Network will Connect More Than 400 Personnel Along 336 Mile Aqueduct in Central and Southern Arizona Lowell, MA. January 6, 2004 M/A-COM, Inc., a business unit of Tyco Electronics and a leading manufacturer of critical radio systems deployed around the world, was awarded a $5 million contract to provide a digital wireless communications system for the Central Arizona Project (CAP) (See http://www.cap-az.com//index.cfm). M/A-COM will implement its OpenSky solution, a wireless private communications network based on Internet Protocol (IP) technologies that will connect more than 400 Central Arizona Project personnel and provide direct interoperability between CAP and emergency, municipal and other utility agencies. The OpenSky technology also will allow Central Arizona Project to host four conversations on each of their existing radio channels, substantially improving system capacity. Central Arizona Project operates and maintains a 336 mile long aqueduct that delivers water from the Colorado River to central and southern Arizona, providing a renewable source of water for residential, industrial and agricultural uses. M/A-COM is deploying an 800 MHz OpenSky digital wireless network for integrated voice and data connectivity along the entire aqueduct and along roads in the region. A key safety element of this digital wireless system is the incorporation of GPS (Global Positioning System) into each mobile radio. "The Central Arizona Project is the largest source of renewable water supply across central and southern Arizona," said Bruce Wilcox, Electronics Department Manager of Central Arizona Project. "Safeguarding this installation is critical for the well being of the state because it impacts everything from farming and irrigation to safe and clean drinking water. M/A-COM offered a network solution that will easily adapt to our current communications systems. OpenSky's TDMA technology will give CAP additional voice capacity and data capability while improving coverage in the more rural areas of our service area, helping to ensure the safety of our employees and the public." Design and installation of the system has begun with full implementation to be completed in the summer of 2004. In addition to ground communications, M/A-COM's OpenSky IP network will provide interconnectivity with all of the Project's helicopters, which operate on conventional VHF channels. This is accomplished with M/A-COM's IP gateways, which establish permanent and user-transparent links between different radio systems. "We are honored to have been awarded such an important and critical project for the state of Arizona," said Tom Hoyne, Director, Utility Markets for M/A-COM, Inc. Capacity and interoperability were critical factors in CAP's decision criteria and M/A-COM was selected because our solution best met those requirements. M/A-COM offered a fully interoperable 800 MHz communications network that will enable CAP personnel to tap into outside public safety agencies and first responders in times of crisis." About the OpenSky Network The OpenSky system is a wireless private network that enables efficient voice and data communications between municipal, utility and public safety departments. The technology behind OpenSky - end-to-end Internet Protocol (IP) and a time-division multiple access (TDMA) airlink - allows for multiple features including: a.. Digital and analog radio interoperability with systems of any type, including those not part of the OpenSky network b.. Enhanced data capability for quick exchange of data files, including work orders and telemetry, with mobile and fixed devices c.. Efficient use of radio frequencies by allowing four simultaneous conversations on each radio frequency channel d.. Integrated Global Positioning System (GPS) tracking capability for increased safety e.. 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From sentto-327560-14856-1073593526-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 14:35:50 2004 Received: from n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.90]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA28143 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:35:43 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14856-1073593526-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.94] by n6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2004 20:25:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 5828 invoked by uid 7800); 8 Jan 2004 20:25:24 -0000 X-Sender: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 64740 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 20:23:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 20:23:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.68) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 20:23:56 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net ([68.223.101.148]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040108202355.VLSM18522.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:23:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3FFDBC94.87345989@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: "NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com" X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.68 From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net X-Yahoo-Profile: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via email; 8 Jan 2004 20:25:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:24:52 -0500 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] DUKES COUNTY, MASSACHUSETTS-Waiver of Section 90.20(d)(47) to Use VHF Frequency 166.250 MHz Outside the Regulatory Maximum of 150 miles From New York, N.Y Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Before the Federal Communications Commission Washington, D.C. 20554 In the Matter of Application of DUKES COUNTY, MASSACHUSETTS For Waiver of Section 90.20(d)(47) to Use VHF Frequency 166.250 MHz Outside the Regulatory Maximum of 150 miles From New York, N.Y. ) FCC File No. 0000819118 MEMORANDUM OPINION AND ORDER Adopted: January 7, 2004 Released: January 8, 2004 By the Chief, Public Safety and Critical Infrastructure Division, Wireless Telecommunications Bureau: 1. Introduction. We have before us a request for waiver of Section 90.20(d)(47) of the Commission's Rules filed by the County of Dukes County, Massachusetts, Office of the Sheriff (Dukes), on June 12, 2002 (Dukes Waiver Request). Dukes seeks the waiver in order to utilize frequency 166.250 MHz for public safety operations 175 miles from New York City. For the reasons discussed below, we grant the Dukes Waiver Request. Furthermore, on our own motion, we grant Dukes a waiver of Section 2.106, note US11, of the Commission’s Rules so that it may utilize frequency 166.250 MHz for public safety operations. 2. Background. Frequency 166.250 MHz is allocated to Federal Government (Government) use on a primary basis. Additionally, non-Federal Government (non-Government) operations on this frequency are authorized on a secondary, non-interference basis to Government operations. Specifically, non-Government remote pickup broadcast base and land mobile stations are authorized at points more than 150 miles of New York City, and non-Government base, fixed and land mobile stations in the Public Safety Radio Services are authorized at points within 150 miles of New York City. 3. Dukes is responsible for providing emergency communication services to all local police, fire and EMS, with all dispatch services emanating from the Dukes County Sheriff’s Communication Center at Martha’s Vineyard Airport in Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts, approximately 173 miles from New York City. Dukes asserts that in an effort to overcome the problem of radio “dead spots” created by the hilly terrain on the west side of the island, it constructed an antenna tower on the highest hill in the area, and is in the process of installing antennas. However, Dukes asserts that it is experiencing frequency congestion that could be overcome by use of frequency 166.250 MHz. Thus, Dukes requests a waiver of Section 90.20(d)(47). 4. In conjunction with its waiver request, Dukes has filed a memorandum from the International Municipal Signal Association (IMSA), an FCC-certified frequency coordinator for the Public Safety Pool, supporting Dukes’ request. IMSA states that allowing Dukes to use frequency 166.250 MHz is “an ideal solution to the difficult problem of finding a suitably clear Public Safety channel for an island with huge seasonal population differentials and thus communications needs.” IMSA further indicates that “[e]xtensive searching revealed that the extreme congestion in the VHF bands and the susceptibility of Martha’s Vineyard to radio interference from Cape Cod, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Long Island, NY based stations preclude…frequency coordination for a Fire or EMS channel, and for inter-service frequencies from other public safety [frequency coordinators].” IMSA also submitted an amendment to its memorandum, including an attachment setting forth the public safety frequencies, and demonstrating that none of these frequencies are available or technically feasible. Furthermore, given its location (four miles off the southern coast of Massachusetts) and proposed power level (10 watts total power output for the base station), granting the captioned application “would cause no greater impact on [remote pickup broadcast licensees]” as compared to the impact from higher power public safety licensees within 150 miles of New York City. In this connection, on October 8, 2003, Dukes filed letters of concurrence from Hall Communications, Inc. and Sandab Communication, LTD, co-channel licensees operating on frequency 166.250 MHz in New Bedford, Massachusetts, and Barnstable, Massachusetts, respectively, acceding to Dukes’ proposed operations. 5. Discussion. To obtain a waiver of the Commission's Rules, a petitioner must demonstrate that a grant of the waiver would be in the public interest and the underlying purpose of the rule(s) would be frustrated or not served by application to the present case. Alternatively, a petitioner must show that, in view of unique or unusual factual circumstances, application of the rule(s) would be inequitable, unduly burdensome, or contrary to the public interest, or that the applicant has no reasonable alternative. Based on the record in this proceeding, we find that the request for waiver of Section 90.20(d)(47) of the Commission's Rules is warranted because Dukes has demonstrated that it is faced with unique factual circumstances such that application of the rule would be contrary to the public interest, and Dukes has no reasonable alternative. 6. We find that Dukes’ geographical area of operation presents unique factual circumstances. In this regard, we acknowledge Dukes’ representation that it is attempting to remedy the problem of radio dead spots due to the hilly terrain in certain areas of Martha’s Vineyard. Additionally, we credit IMSA’s contention that the huge seasonal population differentials have resulted in unique communications needs. Furthermore, the susceptibility of Martha’s Vineyard to radio interference from four different areas—namely, Cape Cod, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Long Island, N.Y.—also place Martha’s Vineyard in a unique situation. We also are persuaded that granting the requested waiver is in the public interest because it would significantly enhance Dukes' coverage, system reliability, and ability to dispatch emergency communications in the Martha’s Vineyard area, thereby promoting effective public safety communications. 7. In addition, we find that Dukes has no reasonable alternative. In this regard, we note IMSA's assertion, supported by an extensive search of the Public Safety Pool VHF frequencies, that extreme congestion in the VHF bands and the susceptibility of Martha’s Vineyard to radio interference from surrounding areas precluded frequency coordination of a Fire or EMS channel and for inter-service frequencies from other public safety services to meet the identified communications need. We further note that IMSA has provided an annotated printout of public safety channels from Local Government, Fire, Police, Highway Maintenance, Emergency Medical, Special Emergency and Forestry Conservation Radio Services that have been examined and determined to be unavailable or technically infeasible. Therefore, we grant Dukes’ request for a waiver of Section 90.20(d)(47) of the Commission’s Rules. 8. In a related matter, we note that in addition to obtaining a waiver of Section 90.20(d)(47), Dukes must also obtain a waiver of note US11 to the Table of Frequency Allocations in Section 2.106 of the Commission’s Rules to operate on 166.250 MHz. As discussed above, like Section 90.20(d)(47), note US11 restricts assignment of 166.250 MHz for public safety operations to within 150 miles of New York City. Although a waiver of note US11 is likewise required, Dukes has not requested a waiver thereof. Therefore, on our own motion, we grant Dukes a waiver of note US11, for reasons discussed above. 9. As noted above, non-Government use of 166.250 MHz is secondary to Government use. As such, this waiver is issued subject to the condition that harmful interference will not be caused to Federal government stations. Dukes is hereby advised that Federal government stations may be transitioning to narrowband operations and most are required to do so by January 1, 2005, i.e., operating 12.5 kHz bandwidth equipment--in some cases using center frequencies "offset" 12.5 kHz from Dukes’ center frequency(s). Federal government stations are licensed by the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA). Information on the Federal government's transition to narrowband operations is available on NTIA's Office of Spectrum Management home page at: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/osmhome.html. Non-Federal licensees should also note that operation of "25 kHz equipment" increases the likelihood of causing interference to Federal government stations. If interference is caused, non-Federal users must cease operating and modify operations so as not to cause harmful interference to Federal government stations. 10. Accordingly, IT IS ORDERED that, pursuant to Section 4(i) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, 47 U.S.C. § 154(i), and Sections 1.3 and 1.925 of the Commission's Rules, 47 C.F.R. §§ 1.3, 1,925, the Request for Waiver filed by the County of Dukes County, Massachusetts, on January 18, 2002, IS GRANTED, as set forth above. 11. IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, pursuant and Section 4(i) and 309(a) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, 47 U.S.C. § 154(i), 309(a), that the Licensing and Technical Analysis Branch SHALL PROCESS FCC File No. 0000819118 in accordance with the Commission’s Rules and this Memorandum Opinion and Order. Any grant of the captioned application SHALL BE CONDITIONED as set forth in paragraph 9, above. 12. This action is taken under delegated authority pursuant to Sections 0.131 and 0.331 of the Commission’s Rules, 47 C.F.R. §§ 0.131, 0.331. FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION D’wana R. 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--------------610D83D17EEE56DEE383F254-- From sentto-327560-14858-1073679586-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 15:20:43 2004 Received: from n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.85]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA07824 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 15:20:37 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14858-1073679586-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.197] by n29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2004 20:19:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 96489 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2004 20:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jan 2004 20:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.102) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2004 20:19:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.218.66.141] by n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2004 20:19:39 -0000 X-Sender: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43361 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 20:50:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Jan 2004 20:50:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.68) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 20:50:01 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net ([68.223.101.148]) by imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040108205000.VYBU18522.imf20aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bellsouth.net> for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:50:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3FFDC2B2.C2496322@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: "NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com" X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.68 From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net X-Yahoo-Profile: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 09 Jan 2004 20:19:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.102 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:50:58 -0500 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] VZ to roll out EV-DO nationwide Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Verizon Going Nationwide With EV-DO By Brad Smith January 8, 2004 news@2 direct LAS VEGAS Verizon Wireless today announced that it plans to expand its CDMA2000 1XEV-DO deployment beyond the current two markets -- San Diego and Washington, D.C. -- effectively upping the ante on the U.S. wireless broadband data landscape. 1XEV-DO offers speeds of 300 to 500 kilobits per second, or about 10 times the average dial-up connection speed. That will be a significant increase over AT&T Wireless' EDGE network, which currently claims to be the fastest wide-area network in the United States. AT&T Wireless launched its EDGE service nationwide late last year and the service offers data rates of about 140 kbps. Verizon says it will spend $1 billion over the next two years to launch the EV-DO network. But unlike its initial commercial deployment last fall, which focused on enterprises users, Jim Straight, the carrier's president of wireless data and Internet service, said the company's nationwide deployment will be marketed to both consumers and enterprises. Verizon plans to have a number of EV-DO handsets available to consumers this year, Straight says. Verizon sees a huge opportunity in the consumer market for high-speed services such as video and high-resolution photos, Straight said. Consumers also will want a wider selection of devices than the laptop PCMCIA card that is now available, he said. "This is going mass market," Straight said in an interview. "There are a lot more devices coming." The introduction of EV-DO handsets and the focus on the consumer market is significant, according to analyst Iain Gillott, president of iGillott Research. "I've seen the other EV-DO stuff such as PDAs and handsets and they are very cool. They can do music and true multimedia." In addition, Gillott says, Verizon's deployment likely will increase the gap between CDMA and GSM networks in the United States. "This announcement just made the chasm between CDMA and GSM/GPRS a little bit wider." Straight said the carrier will have a number of EV-DO devices this year, including a one-megapixel camera phone. He also said Verizon Wireless will support most operating systems, including Palm and Microsoft, although he declined to go into specifics. The carrier didn't provide any timeline for its EV-DO rollout except that it will occur city by city over the next two years. Straight declined to say how many cities might be launched by year-end. An industry source told Wireless Week that Verizon Wireless pushed up the nationwide launch because of the success it has had in San Diego and Washington, D.C. The source said Verizon Wireless had more customers on it EV-DO network in those cities than on its slower 1X data network, which was launched nearly two years ago. Straight confirmed that the EV-DO launch went much better than expected. Its subscriber numbers outpaced the 1X launch in the first months, he said, declining to give specific numbers. Wireless Week Senior Editor Sue Marek contributed to this report. -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. 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W., Washington, D.C. The Meeting will focus on presentations by senior agency officials regarding implementations of the agency’s strategic plan and a comprehensive review of FCC policies and procedures. Presentations will be made in five panels: Panel One will feature the Managing Director and the Chief of the Office of Strategic Planning and Policy Analysis in a joint presentation. Panel Two will feature the Chiefs of the Enforcement Bureau and the Consumer and Governmental Affairs Bureau. Panel Three will feature the Chiefs of the Office of Engineering and Technology, the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau, and the International Bureau. Panel Four will feature the General Counsel and the Director of the Office of Communications Business Opportunities. Panel Five will feature the Chiefs of the Wireline Competition Bureau and the Media Bureau. Additional information concerning this meeting may be obtained from Audrey Spivack or David Fiske, Office of Media Relations, (202) 418-0500; TTY 1-888-835-5322. Audio/Video coverage of the meeting will be broadcast live over the Internet from the FCC's Audio/Video Events web page at www.fcc.gov/realaudio http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-242773A1.doc -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEXTEL-1/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: NEXTEL-1-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! 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SUICIDE plan may have led to shooting of 2 officers AL.com, AL ... The caller asked the dispatcher to send out FBI agents. When none responded, he called back and asked the dispatcher to send police officers. ... (only static was heard on the radio after the first officer arrived, and before the 2nd officer was killed) REACH crew never explained turnaround Santa Rosa Press Democrat, CA ... that the CDF station received no further communication from the flight crew after 7:31 pm, the time of the last transmission between the crew and a dispatcher ... -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG Yahoo! 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Headquartered in California, they have been in business 7 (some agents have been with them for over 5 years), and successfully launched their entrepreneurial model in several locations nationwide. At the start of this rejuvenating New Year, Dallas, Boston and southern California have been targeted as the ideal geographies to actively build up markets. Offered at this time are home-based 1099 contractor situations, working on a commission schedule. Both full-time and part-time are available, making it workable for those who have other ongoing business ventures. Income is based on 15-20% of minimum $50K - $150K gross monthly projected sales (which is currently being achieved by established sales contractors, working 20-30 hours per week). Ambitous and resourceful Sales Agents will develop and manage leads, market to qualified prospects, collect pertinent information for projects and market research. Candidates must have 5+ years experience in a senior-level sales capacity, a track record of consistently earning 100K+ annually, extensive experience with the consultative sales process and selling to upper-level management. Knowledge of the telecom industry and the DFW marketplace will help you hit the ground running. For more information about our client and these unique opportunities, please contact Barbara Siegel at careerstudio@aol.com. (No relocation is offered.) Career Studio National Executive Search Firm Coral Springs, FL 954-755-4855 -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG Yahoo! 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with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2004 21:20:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 17812 invoked by uid 7800); 7 Jan 2004 21:20:33 -0000 X-Sender: sick1man2002@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 41044 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2004 20:32:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2004 20:32:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.64) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2004 20:32:06 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.254] by n1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2004 20:31:28 -0000 To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.64 From: "sick1man2002" X-Originating-IP: 152.163.252.8 X-Yahoo-Profile: sick1man2002 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via email; 7 Jan 2004 21:20:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:31:28 -0000 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] emergency phone calls Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i have a old uniden prepaid cell phone model pcd2000a they went digital from analog service. my question can a cell phone still dial 911 only, even if the service is outdated. for emergency use only. -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From sentto-327560-14846-1073514591-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 17:31:21 2004 Received: from n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.93]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id RAA24275 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:31:19 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14846-1073514591-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.160] by n9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2004 22:29:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 41430 invoked by uid 7800); 7 Jan 2004 22:29:50 -0000 X-Sender: ken@steinhoff.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 11586 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2004 22:23:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m19.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2004 22:23:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO steinhoff.net) (65.57.232.100) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2004 22:23:46 -0000 Received: from pbpost0582 (ksteinhoff.pbpost.com [169.137.60.110]) by steinhoff.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id i07MNCnA004732; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:23:12 -0500 To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 65.57.232.100 From: Ken Steinhoff X-Yahoo-Profile: k0kls X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via email; 7 Jan 2004 22:29:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:23:33 -0500 Subject: Re: [NEXTEL-1] emergency phone calls Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 20:31:28 -0000, you wrote: >i have a old uniden prepaid cell phone model pcd2000a >they went digital from analog service. my question can a cell phone >still dial 911 only, even if the service is outdated. for emergency >use only. Most every phone has the capability to dial 9-1-1 even if you aren't paying for service. Back in the days when we used Nextel for radio-only, we told our folks that they could use them for 9-1-1 and I called EMS dispatch on one of them to confirm it. On another occasion, we had to take the phone switch down. I made non-service radios available for 9-1-1 calls to several departments in the building. I won't say that it'll work with every phone and every place, but it's worth a try. -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG ------------------------ Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From sentto-327560-14861-1073764014-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 14:50:00 2004 Received: from n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.99]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id OAA15214 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:49:54 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14861-1073764014-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.95] by n31.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2004 19:46:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 83167 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2004 19:46:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2004 19:46:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.73) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2004 19:46:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: no_reply@yahoogroups.com Received: from [66.218.67.156] by n18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2004 19:46:53 -0000 X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 63252 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2004 23:18:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jan 2004 23:18:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.77) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jan 2004 23:18:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.114] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jan 2004 23:18:30 -0000 To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.77 From: sparkie_rf X-Yahoo-Profile: sparkie_rf X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 10 Jan 2004 19:46:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.73 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 23:18:30 -0000 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] Wireless Hacking at Burger King Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is kinda funny, and we can only expect more of this. ------------------ Burger King customers told: 'You are too fat to have a Whopper' Police believe teenage pranksters are hacking into the wireless frequency of a US Burger King drive-through speaker to tell potential customers they are too fat for fast food. Policeman Gerry Scherlink said the pranksters told one customer who had just placed an order: "You don't need a couple of Whoppers. You are too fat. Pull ahead." The offenders are reportedly tapping into the wireless frequency at the restaurant in Troy, Michigan. Police believe the culprits are watching and broadcasting from close range. Officer Scherlinck said the men are telling customers who order a Coca-Cola that, "We don't have Coke." And when the customer asks what they do have, the hacker would say: "We don't have anything. Pull ahead." But what has managers concerned is the profanity the hackers are using, according to police. A drive-through customer has told police if he had children with him in the car and someone used profanity, he would have been upset. Burger King franchise owner Tony Versace issued the following statement in response to the incidents: "We apologise to our customers who've been insulted by the use of this drive-through speaker." Management at the fast-food restaurant are reportedly trying to change the radio frequency used for the speakers, reports Local 4. Story filed: 09:37 Friday 9th January 2004 see: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_853744.html? menu=news.latestheadlines -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEXTEL-1/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: NEXTEL-1-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From sentto-327560-14862-1073765331-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 15:09:25 2004 Received: from n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.77]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA16681 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:09:23 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14862-1073765331-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2004 20:08:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 24033 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2004 20:08:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2004 20:08:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.83) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2004 20:08:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.218.67.181] by n27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2004 20:08:48 -0000 X-Sender: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 28444 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2004 19:52:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m9.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2004 19:52:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.66) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2004 19:52:06 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net ([68.217.73.177]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040110195206.LKJG1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:52:06 -0500 Message-ID: <40005816.59390539@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: "NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com" X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.66 From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net X-Yahoo-Profile: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 10 Jan 2004 20:08:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.83 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:52:54 -0500 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] Energy and Commerce Hearing Notices Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B637601DBA9123E9D9FD247A" --------------B637601DBA9123E9D9FD247A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet has scheduled a hearing on Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 10:00 a.m. in 2123 Rayburn House Office Building. This hearing is entitled "'Can you say that on TV?': An Examination of the FCC's Enforcement with Respect to Broadcast Indecency." Witnesses will be by invitation only. For the latest information, please visit http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/Hearings/01282004hearing1165/hearing.htm The Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet has scheduled a hearing on Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 10:00 a.m. in 2322 Rayburn House Office Building. This hearing is entitled "The Current State of Competition in the Communications Marketplace." Witnesses will be by invitation only. For the latest information, please visit http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/Hearings/02042004hearing1164/hearing.htm ---------------------------------------- The House Committee on Energy and Commerce W.J. "Billy" Tauzin, Chairman (202) 225-2927 http://www.house.gov/commerce --------------B637601DBA9123E9D9FD247A Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  
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The Subcommittee on Telecommunications and the Internet has scheduled a hearing on Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 10:00 a.m. in 2322 Rayburn House Office Building. This hearing is entitled "The Current State of Competition in the Communications Marketplace." Witnesses will be by invitation only.

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--------------B637601DBA9123E9D9FD247A-- From sentto-327560-14863-1073765343-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 15:09:37 2004 Received: from n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.88]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA16718 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:09:36 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14863-1073765343-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.66.97] by n4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2004 20:09:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 34239 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2004 20:08:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m14.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2004 20:08:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.92) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2004 20:08:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.218.67.188] by n8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2004 20:08:58 -0000 X-Sender: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 6816 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2004 19:59:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2004 19:59:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.66) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2004 19:59:51 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net ([68.217.73.177]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040110195950.LMRD1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:59:50 -0500 Message-ID: <400059E5.45961DD1@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: "NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com" X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.66 From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net X-Yahoo-Profile: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 10 Jan 2004 20:08:55 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.92 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:00:38 -0500 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] Thomas W. Hazlett, former chief economist at the FCC Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 9 Fourth Quarter 2003 t r e n d s A half century on, the blissfully naïve have switched sides. Today it is obvious to regulators that they cannot fathom the countless shapes and sizes of wireless services, or the potentially limitless configurations of wireless markets. Private entrepreneurs must be unleashed to discover the efficiencies beyond. As the FCC’s Spectrum Policy Task Force Report noted last year, “the government has an almost impossible task trying to keep pace with the ever-increasing demand for spectrum and the continuing advances in wireless technology and applications.” From their lips to God’s ears. Despite frequent press references to our “crowded radio waves,” most of the valuable frequencies are barely used. Rather, it is the lobby of the FCC that is crowded – jam-packed with applicants. It is no anomaly that federal rules keep 67 television channels in reserve for Springfield, Mass., a city with just three TV stations on the air. Indeed, to get a sense of the pervasive misuse of a valuable natural resource, one need only look at the variety of wireless services that petitioners at the FCC would like to deliver to the good people of Springfield by using those idle channels. Were competitors free to offer any noninterfering wireless service, via any business model at any frequency, the productivity gains would be enormous. Given flexible rights, spectrum licensees would become de facto spectrum owners, and the search for property improvements would be on. by thom a s w. h a z l e t t stephen schudlich (all) the chief economist of the Federal Communications Commission, dismissed law student Leo Herzel’s proposal in the University of Chicago Law Review to auction broadcast TV licenses. Chiding Herzel’s blissful naïveté, Smythe scoffed that markets could not possibly handle the complex task of coordinating airwave use. In 1951,Dallas Smythe, TOM HAZLETT is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute for Policy Research and a columnist for the Financial Times’ New Economic Policy Forum. Consumer benefits would run the gamut: better coverage (and fewer dropped calls) on cellular phones, faster (and less expensive) broadband access to the Internet, wireless competition to cable and satellite TV. Perhaps most important are the creative applications yet unknown. The long march to a consensus among economists was set in motion in 1959 by an influential article in the Journal of Law and Economics on the value of making markets in spectrum by the University of Chicago’s Ronald Coase, who would later win a Nobel Prize in economics. It took policymakers decades to catch on, but in recent years they have joined the ranks of believers in droves. Two years ago, 37 “concerned economists,” including the aforementioned Nobel Laureate Coase, petitioned the FCC to “eliminate all wireless license requirements unrelated to interference or anticompetitive concentration.” Yet, when the Spectrum Policy Task Force reported its findings, the consensus promoting spectrum markets had mysteriously vaporized. In fact, the task force called on regulators to continue to assign spectrum use in much the same way that has deprived Spring- field of most of the benefits of the airwaves. While flexibility was endorsed in theory, plans to extend flexible rights to licensees were largely set aside. New emphasis was placed on imposing technical standards on spectrum users – precisely the function best left to free markets. allocating spectrum and assigning licenses FCC regulation of radio spectrum is a twostage process. In the first, “block allocation,” the Commission decides what specific frequencies shall be used for. Zoning each band, the Commission defines services, prescribes technologies, dictates business models and mandates emission standards. It also determines market structure. If it sets the band aside for unlicensed use, it also controls interference by setting power limits and regulating the equipment permitted. For licensed bands, regulators decide how many firms shall compete and how much bandwidth each licensee shall have. The Commission then doles out licenses. Since 1994, this has primarily been done via auctions. Through 2002, high bids totaled $41 billion, though, thanks to defaults and legal wrangling, only $14 billion ended up in the U.S. Treasury. The licenses do not convey ownership rights to spectrum. For example, if a company is licensed to deliver satellite radio services, it may not decide on its own to use the spectrum for terrestrial services. The licensee enjoys exclusive use of the allocated bandwidth – but only to operate as regulators specify. This sharply limits competition. For example, satellite radio operators cannot confront local radio stations with a truly competitive product because they are not allowed to deliver local news or other programs by means of supplementary terrestrial broadcasts. And, no surprise, such rigidities are strongly supported by incumbent licensees. Potential users must petition the agency to gain a spectrum allocation, proving that their new wireless systems serve “the public interest.” The claims are, of course, challenged – and rechallenged – by incumbents bearing lawyers. In the rare case in which an entrepreneur wins FCC support to provide a novel wireless service, he or she wins thanks – but not a license. The innovator must, instead, buy one at auction. In the final humiliation of the upstart, the FCC pockets much of the expected economic profit from new use of spectrum, while rival firms are given an 10 The Milken Institute Review t r e n d s opportunity to outbid the innovator and appropriate the business model. Multiply this maze of roadblocks and disincentives by an order of worldly magnitude. Scores of new wireless technologies are stifled as their inventors struggle to scale regulatory walls; scores more remain undiscovered as economic incentives to research and development are eviscerated. Inefficiencies plague technical progress – for example, Americans view TV pixels arrayed as per the state-ofthe- art standard of 1941. Billions of dollars in consumer benefits are lost as U.S. wireless operators utilize just 150 megahertz (MHz) of bandwidth, scarcely half the average allocation in countries of the European Union. the task force punts In the Spectrum Policy Task Force Report, the misallocation problem is outlined in standard terms.Curiously, however, new technology is cited as the villain. Until the wonders of the digital era, we are told, demand for spectrum access was low and the old regime worked reasonably well. Now, new rules are needed for new times. Policymakers should understand that “one size does not fit all,” and pick their regulatory models with care. Their choices, the report states, are three: 1. Exclusive use, in which a licensee has exclusive, flexible and transferable rights to use specified spectrum. Think cellular telephone services. 2. The commons, which allows unlimited numbers to share frequencies set aside for unlicensed use, with operations restricted through power limits and technical standards, but with no right to protection from interference. Think cordless phones. 3. Command-and-control, traditional spectrum management in the U.S. in which regulators mandate spectrum for specific uses via regulated technologies. Think over-the-airTV. The report builds its assessment on this taxonomy, arguing that models 1 and 2 should be extended, and model 3 attenuated. It offers only vague criteria for selecting the appropriate model, advising that the Commission must not forget that “one size does not fit all.” The hoary “public interest” standard almost looks definitive by comparison. The report offers a sort of false trichotomy, with very costly implications. By quarantining property rights to the “exclusive use” slot, it misses the essential fact that private economic incentives drive spectrum use 11 Fourth Quarter 2003 everywhere. Unlicensed bands prosper not by abolishing exclusivity, but by giving users the ability to assert very localized rights. The Starbucks Wi-Fi hotspot network uses unlicensed frequencies, but Starbucks and its partner, TMobile, only invest to create their network in the expectation that they will be able to prevent free-riding. This expectation rests in part on TMobile’s exclusion of non-subscribers, and in part on the Commission’s tight limits on transmission power, which keeps neighboring frequencies apart. But by ignoring the potential for exclusivity embedded in the electromagnetic commons, the Commission stops short of seeing how entrepreneurial initiative could be extended.Why not allow Starbucks – or university and corporate networks – to exclude interlopers or to enjoin malicious interference? The Commission’s taxonomy also misses the huge importance of the “commons” embedded within the “exclusive.” The most successful spectrum-sharing now takes place under the auspices of cellular and personal communications services (PCS) licensees – the closest we have to spectrum owners – which organize collective use of airwaves for more than 150 million mobile phone subscribers, thousands of manufacturers (from chipmakers to handset suppliers) and scores of virtual networks (from personal digital assistants to text-based wireless Web applications). The average consumer cost is 10 cents a minute, including long distance and roaming. If these networks were allowed to use additional spectrum, they would undoubtedly expand into high-speed data, providing ubiquitous coverage for Internet access (now lacking with Wi-Fi hotspots). Indeed, a company called Monet Networks now provides 300 kbps to 700 kbps wireless access to subscribers at prices comparable to cable modems and DSL. Monet is licensed to operate on PCS frequencies in the upper Midwest, where wireless voice traffic is less dense. Market solutions, it seems, rush in where licenses are flexible (as in PCS), and spectrum access is cheap. Injecting more flexible, exclusive-use spectrum rights into the market would pump up all kinds of wireless applications, including those of the “commons.” But on the question of freeing spectrum for flexible, exclusive use, the report is a flop. The FCC’s November 1999 spectrum policy statement specifically targeted 183 MHz to be transferred to five service categories, with licensees awarded liberal use rights. The task force provides no progress report on that goal; if it had bothered, it might have noted two salient points. First, none of the 183 MHz services had been put into productive use in the intervening three years. Second, this policy failure is incessant – a reality that begs for an explanation.Why does the FCC have such a difficult time making good on its plans to 12 The Milken Institute Review t r e n d s expand market access to radio spectrum? The problem lies in “command-and-control” spectrum allocation, which the report ignores altogether. Indeed, it embraces this approach by arguing for administrative discretion in avoiding “one size fits all,” and using vague criteria to pick and choose between more exclusive spectrum here, more unlicensed spectrum there. A consumerfriendly solution would allow markets to determine how airwaves are used. the fcc zones more spectrum That command-and-control clings to life in the Commission’s spectrum regime is illustrated vividly in the first agency rulemaking in response to the report. In December 2002, a Notice of Inquiry was issued to consider rules allowing unlicensed devices to share television channels. The notice pats the agency on the back, noting that: The Commission’s rules for unlicensed transmitters have been a tremendous success. Awide varietyof devices have beendeveloped and introduced under these rules for consumer and business use, including cordless telephones, home security systems, electronic toys, antipilfering and inventory control systems and computer local area networks.… The success of our unlicensed device rules … shows that there could be significant benefits to the economy, businesses and the general public in making additional spectrum available for unlicensed transmitters. Missing in the notice is any sense of what unlicensed use may have cost. No mention is made of the alternatives sacrificed so that the 2.4 GHz band could be reserved for cordless phones, wireless local networks and other applications. But let’s assume that the existing band is every bit the smashing success the Commission means to assert. This does not imply that allocating the next band to unlicensed use will produce similar results. Indeed, an argument for unlicensed spectrum cited by the report is to encourage users to invest in equipment that overcomes crowding. Perhaps the 2.4 GHz unlicensed band should continue to develop on this margin, using more sophisticated technology to permit more intensive exploitation of the current allocation. It all depends. How much do the upgrades cost? What other technologies are waiting to use the TV band, and how important are they? Which can be efficiently shared with low-power applications, and which need bandwidth all to themselves? The FCC does not know and does not try to learn. That, after all, would be to take on what the task force called the “almost impossible task of trying to keep pace with the everincreasing demand for spectrum and the continuing advances in wireless technology and applications.” Instead, the report simply assumes away the issue. In advancing an allocation limiting new TV band use to unlicensed devices selected by regulators, government planners defoliate the “almost impossible” thicket they profess to fear. A vast array of wireless technologies will be precluded by the FCC’s edict, which mandates those systems most appealing to commissioners. But first, we wait. A long delay was officially kicked off in December 2002. Champions of unlicensed devices will now seek rules to share channels with TV broadcasters. Insiders familiar with the FCC’s interest group pecking order may liken this to a nature documentary featuring a pack of hyenas cornering a gimpy antelope. Except these predators will chew their meals very slowly. a cheap spectrum policy There is a market solution. In 1996, the then- Chair of the Senate Commerce Committee, 13 Fourth Quarter 2003 South Dakota Republican Larry Pressler, proposed issuing “overlays” to reallocate TV spectrum. This approach would grandfather existing TV stations, while allowing new licensees to use the “white space” around incumbents’ signals. Entrants could then attempt to negotiate voluntary agreements in which, for a price, the old users move and release their spectrum for new services. The idea builds on the overlays used in PCS, where new licensees either avoided incumbents’ transmissions or paid them to relocate. Such overlays would effectively establish ownership, triggering market solutions. Instead of government-imposed interference standards determining if radio can share frequencies used by a UHF TV station, the overlay rights holder searches for a profitable solution. In particular, these owners would voluntarily select from a rich mix of interference rules and spectrum-sharing arrangements in a competitive quest for product development. If new “software defined” radios – or other technologies – can share spectrum with TV broadcasters, market incentives will drive implementation. The degree of interference permitted would be subject to negotiation between the parties. ArrayComm – the provider of an innovative technology offering high-speed wireless Internet access in Australia – does not fit the FCC’s preferred regulatory dress in the TV band. The firm told the task force that it opposes “the indiscriminate call for more unlicensed spectrum” as the broadband solution. With the power limits necessary to keep unlicensed users in their own space, “one would have to deploy hundreds of thousands of access points” to rival the national coverage they could deliver (using higher emission levels in licensed spectrum) with about 20,000 sites. ArrayComm objects to the “uncritical exaltation of unlicensed spectrum.” Yet, the Spectrum Policy Task Force Report proposes large new unlicensed allocations, while planned licensed allocations are actually reduced. The task force report proposed just 100 MHz of bandwidth for new licensed services over five years. This shrank the (entirely unfulfilled) 183 MHz proposal of three years previous, and was tiny in comparison to an FCC senior staff proposal issued the same day. The latter asked the Commission to auction flexible rights for the use of 438 MHz of the most valuable portions of the spectrum in a “big bang.” The policy would give spectrum markets the scale and liquidity to invite substantial risk capital. commands and controls With the tepid task force proposal for licensed spectrum, however, innovative market structures are destroyed even before they are imagined. The result will not be mitigated by the report’s misplaced attention on front-loading interference standards. The report states that the Commission must “[c]learly and exhaustively define spectrum users’ rights and responsibilities.” But trying to anticipate the myriad dimensions of conflict merely delays competition. The productive solution is to authorize new users quickly while planning 14 The Milken Institute Review t r e n d s The call for regulation is a plea for help: Stop me before I protect low quality receivers again. for fair and efficient dispute resolution. New rules are generally not needed; if the FCC already has one thing going for it, it is an abundance of administrative law. Historical practice forms the basis of reasonable expectations. Other countries have not found it chaotic to define rights to radio spectrum in sketchy fashion, allowing arbitrators and courts to resolve issues as they arise. In 1996, for example, Guatemala introduced explicit spectrum property rights. Spectrum users define their airspace with six simple variables: frequency, location, hours of operation, maximum transmission power, maximum power emitted at the border of adjacent frequencies, and duration of the right. In such an environment, a thousand market structures can bloom, along with rules to accommodate them. Even when advocating deregulation, the report embraces command-andcontrol. For instance, in its frustration with rules that waste spectrum in the name of protecting antiquated technologies, the Commission recommends regulations for receiving equipment – a major extension of the Commission’s mandate. But poor receivers do not cause interference; they are a problem because the FCC continues to block new uses that might make them obsolete. The call for regulation is a plea for help: Stop me before I protect low quality receivers again. The better approach, surely, is for structural reforms that eliminate this interference at its source – namely, at the FCC. The “command-and-control” that the report ostensibly schedules for phasing out is continually resuscitated with technocratic determination. Consider, for example, how a receiver standard for transistor radios would play out. With better radios, more stations might be able to broadcast in a specific locality, giving listeners more choices. Let us assume that the new programs are worth the extra cost of designing and manufacturing better radios. Yet, some consumers, perhaps in rural areas where the new stations are unlikely to materialize, will not want to pay for new equipment. Receiver standards set by government bludgeon the resolution of these differences, imposing a political one-size-fitsall fix. This, according to the Spectrum Policy Task Force Report, is just where we do not want to be. The FCC, it seems, is caught between an acknowledgement of the compelling need to let markets decide how spectrum is used and an irresistible urge to force the market to accept the Commission’s guesses about how spectrum can be used most efficiently. Consumers are paying the price for the contradiction and – if this report is a forecast of future Commission policies – will continue to do so for years to come. 15 Fourth Quarter 2003 M http://www.milkeninstitute.org/publications/review/2003_12/09_15mr20.pdf -- "NEXTEL-1 IT'S NOT JUST NEXTEL" Note The New address Subscribe to Nextel-1: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL-1 "NEXTEL2 FOR iDEN SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS" Subscribe to Nextel2: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/NEXTEL2 "WIRELESS FORUM HOMELAND SECURITY GROUP" The Complete Resource for Wireless Homeland Security. Subscribe to WFHSG: http://www.groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/WFHSG Yahoo! 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Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From sentto-327560-14864-1073765391-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 15:10:25 2004 Received: from n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com (n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.66.102]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with SMTP id PAA16797 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:10:24 -0500 (EST) X-eGroups-Return: sentto-327560-14864-1073765391-mobileip-archive=lists.ietf.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Received: from [66.218.67.200] by n34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2004 20:09:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 28371 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2004 20:09:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2004 20:09:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n39.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.107) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2004 20:09:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net Received: from [66.218.67.180] by n39.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jan 2004 20:09:50 -0000 X-Sender: Marcelrf@bellsouth.net X-Apparently-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 9132 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2004 20:03:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2004 20:03:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net) (205.152.59.66) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2004 20:03:32 -0000 Received: from bellsouth.net ([68.217.73.177]) by imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040110200331.LNRZ1950.imf18aec.mail.bellsouth.net@bellsouth.net> for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:03:31 -0500 Message-ID: <40005AC1.154440B2@bellsouth.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: "NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com" X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 205.152.59.66 From: Marcelrf@Bellsouth.net X-Yahoo-Profile: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Edited-By: marcel_rf1 X-eGroups-Approved-By: marcel_rf1 via web; 10 Jan 2004 20:09:49 -0000 X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.107 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com; contact NEXTEL-1-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 15:04:17 -0500 Subject: [NEXTEL-1] Regulating Internet Phones May Backfire Reply-To: NEXTEL-1@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FCC Chief: Regulating Internet Phones May Backfire Fri Jan 9 2004 By Ben Berkowitz LAS VEGAS Rapidly expanding voice communications over the Internet should be protected from excessive government regulation and from being pigeonholed as traditional phone service, the top U.S. telecommunications regulator said on Friday. Harm from misregulation of Internet phone service could take "decades to fix," said Federal Communications Commission Chairman Michael Powell, speaking at the Consumer Electronics Show here. "You (can) create a very hostile regulatory environment for voice-over-IP providers in the United States," Powell said. Powell's comments were welcomed by the largest provider of Internet-based phone service, Vonage Holdings Corp., http://www.vonage.com which has 92,000 customers and is expecting 250,000 customers by the end of the year. "One thing you don't want to do is accelerate the movement of technology, jobs and infrastructure away from the United States, and outside the reach of the government if they ever want to reach into it," Vonage Chief Executive Jeffrey Citron said in an interview with Reuters. Companies like privately held Vonage have seen rapid growth in recent months as people embrace lower-cost communications online with quality comparable to traditional phone service. The technology has recently attracted the attention of large telecommunications providers including AT&T Corp., which also intend to provide Internet phone service. In other comments, Powell said his commission needs to do more work this year on promoting and expanding high-speed communications over the Internet, which he said is crucial to the economy's future. "I think it is the most dramatic and meaningful stimulus to our economic productivity and growth," he said. "I think it is the most promising development for job creation." Powell, however, was most vocal about the technology known as voice over Internet protocol, or VoIP. He added "there is nothing to stop" the companies from moving to other countries and setting up computer systems to serve U.S. customers. A major danger, he said, is people saying "'Oh VoIP, it's just telephony. It looks like a duck; it quacks like a duck; regulate it like a duck."' GRAPPLING WITH REGULATIONS Last year, the state of Minnesota tried to impose telephone regulations on Vonage, a leader in the VoIP business that lets a user hook up a regular telephone to a special adapter and in some cases even keep their traditional phone number. But a federal judge ruled in October that Vonage was an information service rather than a telecommunications service, and that state regulation of it would run counter to congressional intent to keep the Internet free of regulation. "We should be starting on the cleanest slate possible," Powell said. "I don't think you should ask a Vonage ... to hire an 80-person lobbying staff and legal staff." Indeed, Vonage's Citron said the Minnesota case was very costly to the Edison, New Jersey-based company, even though it prevailed in the case, which he called a "travesty." 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