From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 6 20:12:21 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA14178 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:12:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae2Ei-0003AB-92 for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:11:52 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i071BqT6012153 for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:11:52 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae2Eh-00039w-SX for mobopts-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:11:52 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA14048 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae2Ef-0003kx-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:11:50 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae2Cp-0003TF-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:09:56 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae2Ay-0003FJ-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:08:00 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae2Az-0002to-5z; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:08:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae2Au-0002tH-Ce for mobopts@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:07:56 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA13513 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 20:07:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae2As-0003E7-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:07:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae291-00039G-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:05:59 -0500 Received: from mailout1.samsung.com ([203.254.224.24]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae279-00031F-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:04:03 -0500 Received: from custom-daemon.mailout1.samsung.com by mailout1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) id <0HR300216HLWRT@mailout1.samsung.com> for mobopts@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:03:32 +0900 (KST) Received: from ep_mmp1 (mailout1.samsung.com [203.254.224.24]) by mailout1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HR300A8WHLRFT@mailout1.samsung.com> for mobopts@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:03:27 +0900 (KST) Received: from andy ([168.219.203.230]) by mmp1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0HR300GHGHLRYV@mmp1.samsung.com> for mobopts@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:03:27 +0900 (KST) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:04:00 +0900 From: Soohong Daniel Park To: mobopts@irtf.org Message-id: <003001c3d4ba$227d52f0$e6cbdba8@andy> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: [Mobopts] [test] please ignore .... Sender: mobopts-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Mobility Optimizations List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,OPT_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park) Mobile Platform Laboratory, SAMSUNG Electronics _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 6 21:38:19 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA17129 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:38:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae3Zv-0006xv-Nz for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:37:52 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i072bpF8026767 for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:37:51 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae3Zu-0006xN-Rt for mobopts-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:37:51 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA17112 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:37:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae3Zs-0007VS-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:37:48 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae3Xy-0007Sg-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:35:51 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae3WB-0007Q6-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:33:59 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae3WD-0006eM-BM; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:34:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Ae3W2-0006da-UO for mobopts@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:33:51 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA16992 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 21:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae3W0-0007OP-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:33:48 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae3U8-0007LB-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:31:53 -0500 Received: from mailout3.samsung.com ([203.254.224.33]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Ae3SS-0007F9-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2004 21:30:09 -0500 Received: from custom-daemon.mailout3.samsung.com by mailout3.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) id <0HR300G01LLE9L@mailout3.samsung.com> for mobopts@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:29:38 +0900 (KST) Received: from ep_mmp2 (mailout3.samsung.com [203.254.224.33]) by mailout3.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HR300FH3LLDKM@mailout3.samsung.com> for mobopts@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:29:37 +0900 (KST) Received: from andy ([168.219.203.230]) by mmp2.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0HR3003R0LLD7L@mmp2.samsung.com> for mobopts@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:29:37 +0900 (KST) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:30:09 +0900 From: Soohong Daniel Park To: mobopts@irtf.org Cc: soohong.park@samsung.com, rajeev@iprg.nokia.com, waa@cs.umd.edu Message-id: <004801c3d4c6$2bd35870$e6cbdba8@andy> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: [Mobopts] Handover across different access networks Sender: mobopts-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Mobility Optimizations List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,OPT_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello I am glad to see MOBOPTS RG to discuss interesting issue related mobility. Charter of this RG wrote above issue as below "These considerations become even more challenging when a terminal handovers across different access networks, such as from a Wireless LAN to CDMA or to GPRS. Hence, it would be extremely useful to understand these problems as the transition to the Mobile Internet accelerates." I am trying to contribute this issue as IETF I-D and Whitepaper in IPv6 forum. In particular, whitepaper has been already released on the IPv6 forum mailing list. http://home.megapass.co.kr/~natpp00/MIPv6ApplicationNote3G-WiFiRoaming.p df Can I discuss this issue on this RG as interesting item ? If you have any question or comment, let me know it Cheers Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park) Mobile Platform Laboratory, SAMSUNG Electronics _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 7 18:06:42 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA11802 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:06:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeMkh-0007Zy-42 for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:06:15 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i07N6FC7029130 for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:06:15 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeMkg-0007Zl-V1 for mobopts-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:06:15 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA11722 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:06:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeMke-0006u5-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:06:12 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeMit-0006q5-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:04:24 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeMhW-0006ln-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:02:58 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeMhY-0007PQ-LZ; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:03:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeMgr-0007Oc-PA for mobopts@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:02:18 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA11319 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 18:02:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeMgp-0006jJ-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:02:15 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeMex-0006eZ-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:00:19 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com ([205.226.5.69]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeMdI-0006Vd-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:58:36 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id i07Mw2t20254; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:58:02 -0800 X-mProtect: <200401072258> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from rajeev.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.2.90, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com smtpdKO6HCC; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:58:00 PST Message-ID: <3FFC8EEE.85A257DD@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 14:57:50 -0800 From: Rajeev Koodli Organization: Nokia Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Soohong Daniel Park CC: mobopts@irtf.org, waa@cs.umd.edu References: <004801c3d4c6$2bd35870$e6cbdba8@andy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Mobopts] Re: Handover across different access networks Sender: mobopts-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Mobility Optimizations List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,OPT_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Daniel, > > I am trying to contribute this issue as IETF I-D and Whitepaper in IPv6 > forum. > In particular, whitepaper has been already released on the IPv6 forum > mailing list. > http://home.megapass.co.kr/~natpp00/MIPv6ApplicationNote3G-WiFiRoaming.p > df > > Can I discuss this issue on this RG as interesting item ? > please go ahead. What would help is a description of what problems you are trying to address, in addition to any solution itself. Regards, -Rajeev > > If you have any question or comment, let me know it > > Cheers > > Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park) > Mobile Platform Laboratory, SAMSUNG Electronics > _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Jan 16 05:20:52 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA08020 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhR5U-0001Q6-Jh for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:20:25 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0GAKOS5005457 for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:20:24 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhR5U-0001Pw-5m for mobopts-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:20:24 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA08013 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhR5Q-0000IP-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:20:20 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AhR4V-0000Do-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:19:24 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhR47-00009f-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:18:59 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhR49-0001GA-B4; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:19:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AhR3W-0001Ek-94 for mobopts@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:18:22 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA07952 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:18:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhR3S-00007g-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:18:19 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AhR2R-00003W-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:17:16 -0500 Received: from mailout1.samsung.com ([203.254.224.24]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AhR1Z-0007lr-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:16:21 -0500 Received: from custom-daemon.mailout1.samsung.com by mailout1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) id <0HRK00E05V6E2Q@mailout1.samsung.com> for mobopts@irtf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:15:50 +0900 (KST) Received: from ep_mmp1 (mailout1.samsung.com [203.254.224.24]) by mailout1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HRK00D25V69B6@mailout1.samsung.com> for mobopts@irtf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:15:45 +0900 (KST) Received: from LocalHost ([168.219.203.183]) by mmp1.samsung.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.17 (built Jun 23 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0HRK00820V69MI@mmp1.samsung.com> for mobopts@irtf.org; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:15:45 +0900 (KST) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:15:32 +0900 From: Soohong Daniel Park To: mobopts@irtf.org Message-id: <003d01c3dc19$ace5a490$b7cbdba8@LocalHost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: [Mobopts] [Note] Copyright problem in 3G-WLAN paper Sender: mobopts-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Mobility Optimizations List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,OPT_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Dear MOBOPTS members. Originally, I wrote a paper " Mobile IPv6 Application Note " and forwarded it to the IPv6 forum and forwarded it to this mailing list. This paper described 3G and WiFi Interworking based on MIPv6 and was proposed to provide IPv6 application for anyone who may wish to get information about this topic. However there are critical problem and my serious fault. For the section of Tight Coupling vs. Loose Coupling Architecture in this paper, I refered and cited texts and a figure from the Design and Implementation of a WLAN/CDMA2000 Interworking Architecture - written by Milind M. Buddhikot,Girish Chandranmenon, Seungjae Han, Yui-Wah Lee, Scott C. Miller and Luca Salgarelli in November 2003 Issue of IEEE Communications Magazine. However I didn't address this reference in this paper. So I am sending my apology to let everyone know this fault. I deeply apologize to authors of original paper for my mistake. with best wishes Daniel PS: Aside from this problem, I will send our draft which will address 3G and WLAN Interworking based on Mobile IPv6, particularly, this draft will include fast handover consideration such as Layer 2 Hint method and DNA (Detecting Network Attachment) BoF solutions as well. Sorry to bother you again. Daniel (Soohong Daniel Park) Mobile Platform Laboratory, SAMSUNG Electronics. _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From exim@www1.ietf.org Mon Jan 26 20:55:32 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA01675 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlIRT-0006Gv-67 for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:55:03 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0R1t3s9024103 for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:55:03 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlIRT-0006Gd-0y for mobopts-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:55:03 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA01527 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlIRQ-0005l5-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:55:00 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlIPt-0005U0-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:53:26 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlIPT-0005RR-04 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:52:59 -0500 Received: from optimus22.ietf.org ([132.151.6.22] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AlIIl-0002Lm-0D for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:46:03 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlIIj-0005oF-NT; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:46:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlII4-0005nl-3S for mobopts@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:45:20 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA01379 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:45:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlII1-0005Br-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:45:17 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlIH3-0005Ab-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:44:18 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com ([205.226.5.69]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlIGg-00059O-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:43:54 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id i0R1hGL09907 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:43:16 -0800 X-mProtect: <200401270143> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from rajeev.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.2.90, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com smtpdTPOgq2; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:43:14 PST Message-ID: <4015C228.261D61E6@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:43:04 -0800 From: Rajeev Koodli Organization: Nokia Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mobopts@irtf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Mobopts] Proposals for discussion Sender: mobopts-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Mobility Optimizations List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,OPT_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello folks, Welcome to Mobopts! We would like to solicit proposals for discussion. Few nits below: A proposal should clearly identify how the problem is relevant for the research group and how the solution will be used, for instance, in IETF and IEEE or elsewhere. Proposals that are supported either through implementation results or simulation results are strongly preferred. Proposals that provide simulation environment and modeling tools for benchmarking performance are highly encouraged. We would like to extend a warm invite to researchers from academia. Welcome again, and we look forward to your proposals. Rajeev Koodli and Bill Arbaugh (chairs as charged) _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 01:33:01 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA08706 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:33:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlMm0-0002Qb-Qr for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:32:33 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0R6WW1X009332 for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:32:32 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlMm0-0002QR-N1 for mobopts-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:32:32 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA08699 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:32:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlMlx-0002Ck-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:32:29 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlMl3-0002AN-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:31:34 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlMkW-000285-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:31:00 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlMkY-0002LK-9d; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:31:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlMk3-0002KM-KM for mobopts@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:30:31 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id BAA08656 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlMk0-00026v-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:30:28 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlMj5-000253-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:29:32 -0500 Received: from key1.docomolabs-usa.com ([216.98.102.225] helo=fridge.docomolabs-usa.com ident=fwuser) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlMiP-00023H-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:28:49 -0500 Message-ID: <009901c3e49e$e11d37e0$536015ac@dclkempt40> From: "James Kempf" To: "Rajeev Koodli" , References: <4015C228.261D61E6@iprg.nokia.com> Subject: Re: [Mobopts] Proposals for discussion Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:29:11 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mobopts-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Mobility Optimizations List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,OPT_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rajeev, What do you mean by proposals? I've not particpated actively in an RG before, but I thought the procedure is similar to conference papers, i.e. people do research (directed at charter objectives naturally) then bring the results to the RG to discuss. jak ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rajeev Koodli" To: Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 5:43 PM Subject: [Mobopts] Proposals for discussion > > Hello folks, > > Welcome to Mobopts! > > We would like to solicit proposals for discussion. Few nits below: > > A proposal should clearly identify how the problem is relevant > for the research group and how the solution will be used, for > instance, in IETF and IEEE or elsewhere. > > Proposals that are supported either through implementation results or > simulation results are strongly preferred. Proposals that provide > simulation environment and modeling tools for benchmarking performance > are highly encouraged. > > We would like to extend a warm invite to researchers from academia. > > Welcome again, and we look forward to your proposals. > > Rajeev Koodli and Bill Arbaugh > (chairs as charged) > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mobopts mailing list > Mobopts@irtf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts > _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 12:35:22 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15738 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:35:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlX71-0004XF-Pn for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:34:55 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0RHYtx9017426 for mobopts-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:34:55 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlX71-0004Wy-J9 for mobopts-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:34:55 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15718 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:34:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlX70-0002CT-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:34:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlX68-00029L-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:34:00 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlX5D-00025k-00 for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:33:03 -0500 Received: from optimus22.ietf.org ([132.151.6.22] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AlX5E-0002MS-Nv for mobopts-web-archive@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:33:04 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlX5C-0004Te-CL; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:33:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlX4V-0004RM-Ld for mobopts@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:32:19 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA15571 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:32:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlX4U-00020k-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:32:18 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlX3W-0001qL-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:31:19 -0500 Received: from darkstar.iprg.nokia.com ([205.226.5.69]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlX21-0001Tt-00 for mobopts@irtf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:29:45 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com (8.11.0/8.11.0-DARKSTAR) id i0RHT8s04256; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:29:08 -0800 X-mProtect: <200401271729> Nokia Silicon Valley Messaging Protection Received: from rajeev.iprg.nokia.com (205.226.2.90, claiming to be "iprg.nokia.com") by darkstar.iprg.nokia.com smtpd55fUQd; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:29:07 PST Message-ID: <40169FD5.DE6247B3@iprg.nokia.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 09:28:54 -0800 From: Rajeev Koodli Organization: Nokia Research Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Kempf CC: mobopts@irtf.org Subject: Re: [Mobopts] Proposals for discussion References: <4015C228.261D61E6@iprg.nokia.com> <009901c3e49e$e11d37e0$536015ac@dclkempt40> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: mobopts-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: mobopts-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: IP Mobility Optimizations List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,OPT_HEADER autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jim, by proposals I mean input (research results, new concepts that need further interaction, information about new tools for experimentation, etc) to the RG to stimulate discussion. So, your analogy to conferences is on the dot, except that the CFP always open :-) Regards, -Rajeev James Kempf wrote: > Hi Rajeev, > > What do you mean by proposals? I've not particpated actively in an RG > before, but I thought the procedure is similar to conference papers, i.e. > people do research (directed at charter objectives naturally) then bring > the results to the RG to discuss. > > jak > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rajeev Koodli" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 5:43 PM > Subject: [Mobopts] Proposals for discussion > > > > > Hello folks, > > > > Welcome to Mobopts! > > > > We would like to solicit proposals for discussion. Few nits below: > > > > A proposal should clearly identify how the problem is relevant > > for the research group and how the solution will be used, for > > instance, in IETF and IEEE or elsewhere. > > > > Proposals that are supported either through implementation results or > > simulation results are strongly preferred. Proposals that provide > > simulation environment and modeling tools for benchmarking performance > > are highly encouraged. > > > > We would like to extend a warm invite to researchers from academia. > > > > Welcome again, and we look forward to your proposals. > > > > Rajeev Koodli and Bill Arbaugh > > (chairs as charged) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mobopts mailing list > > Mobopts@irtf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts > > _______________________________________________ Mobopts mailing list Mobopts@irtf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts