From rkoodli@cisco.com Fri Jun 24 17:30:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobopts@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A859311E807E for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:30:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -108.532 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-108.532 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DU1YVjs-11-v for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-3.cisco.com (sj-iport-3.cisco.com [171.71.176.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F36A11E8078 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:30:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=rkoodli@cisco.com; l=1447; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1308961843; x=1310171443; h=date:subject:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pp89Jw5ydVhDfpg+V+I9zXi+dAi5dkZ6Z698Zluu+O0=; b=PcJy0YxPD5JyRVDiet7mvPzuThuJirNDx3nMq8YidsYqnstTjdyUabWA N4XUc0nYFYS+zVqBD46CpjyxKB8uuD7tnHRsG6aRfoK4Vklg+vmrs4JGF h0Tu6GUDokeCKYLO3Wjd2qhqTmTjRyiBcoyavrWC3kzjmenlM9etwdgsy I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnwMALArBU6tJXG+/2dsb2JhbABSiRKPTI5iAnesC514hi0EhymKUoRxhy+EEg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,422,1304294400"; d="scan'208";a="346964011" Received: from rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com ([173.37.113.190]) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2011 00:30:42 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-101.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-101.cisco.com [72.163.62.138]) by rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p5P0Ug7O031450; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 00:30:42 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-111.cisco.com ([72.163.62.153]) by xbh-rcd-101.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:30:42 -0500 Received: from 171.70.249.123 ([171.70.249.123]) by XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com ([72.163.62.153]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 00:30:41 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.24.0.100205 Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:37:56 -0700 From: Rajeev Koodli To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: RG Status, Meeting in Quebec City Thread-Index: AcwkpcbGUfl9b9JrwUuVyFafHjHOjgOKllTV In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jun 2011 00:30:42.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D70E9E0:01CC32CF] Cc: Suresh Krishnan Subject: [Mobopts] RG Status, Meeting in Quebec City X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 00:30:44 -0000 Hello folks, It's been a while.. I wanted to share with you a quick status update. First, RFC 6252 (Media Independent Pre-authentication Framework) was published. Congratulations to the authors and the RG! So, we have published all the outstanding documents (5 RFCs in all). Next, let me introduce Suresh Krishnan as the new co-chair of MobOpts. Suresh is keen on providing the rejuvenation the RG can benefit from, and will the lead the effort. We have had some exchange on this. The thinking is to broaden the scope of the mobility work, including (but not limited to) the following: - Investigate new mobility mechanisms and architectures, publish them as peer-reviewed publications. - Investigate privacy in mobile networks, especially with IPv6 - Investigate mobile device policy management for functions such as network discovery, congestion reporting and flow management - provide a general forum for discussing mobility studies in a larger sense such as vehicular networks, personal area networks, 4G performance studies, testbed evaluations etc. - provide a forum for discussing experimental testbeds, results and so forth. We would like to hear your thoughts. We are on the agenda for the Quebec City IETF. Please let us know if you would like to request a slot on any relevant topic. At this point, we are open for any new relevant topics. Regards, -Rajeev Koodli, Suresh Krishnan From ashutosh.dutta@ieee.org Sat Jun 25 06:49:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobopts@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED2A21F8548 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 06:49:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CqupXwAuhyQs for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 06:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paneer.cc.columbia.edu (paneer.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB4E21F8549 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 06:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kiwi.cc.columbia.edu (kiwi.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.28.104]) by paneer.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p5PDnNBW018902; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:49:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiwi.cc.columbia.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kiwi.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p5PDnMbp000574; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from www@localhost) by kiwi.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.13.0/Submit) id p5PDnMNb000571; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 115.184.170.106 ([115.184.170.106]) by cubmail.cc.columbia.edu (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:49:22 -0400 Message-ID: <20110625094922.z6667kkkgkc0w4c8@cubmail.cc.columbia.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 09:49:22 -0400 From: Ashutosh Dutta To: Rajeev Koodli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-CubMail-Sender: ad37@columbia.edu X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.4 Cc: Suresh Krishnan , mobopts@irtf.org Subject: Re: [Mobopts] RG Status, Meeting in Quebec City X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:49:32 -0000 Dear Rajeev, On behalf of the authors of RFC 6252, I would like to =20 thank you and the WG members for the comments and suggestions during =20 the review process. It is indeed good to know the revival of MOBOPTS WG. Mobility =20 Optimization is an important topic and MOBOPTS WG can certainly =20 contribute to further research. I hope we can continue to have some =20 interesting items being discussed in the WG. Look forward to working =20 with you and Suresh Krishnan, the new WG Co-chair. The suggested charter and the items look very promising for MOBOPTS. I =20 would be happy to contribute to its success. Regards Ashutosh Quoting Rajeev Koodli : > > Hello folks, > > It's been a while.. I wanted to share with you a quick status update. > > First, RFC 6252 (Media Independent Pre-authentication Framework) was > published. Congratulations to the authors and the RG! So, we have publishe= d > all the outstanding documents (5 RFCs in all). > > Next, let me introduce Suresh Krishnan as the new co-chair of MobOpts. > Suresh is keen on providing the rejuvenation the RG can benefit from, and > will the lead the effort. > > We have had some exchange on this. The thinking is to broaden the scope of > the mobility work, including (but not limited to) the following: > > - Investigate new mobility mechanisms and architectures, publish them as > peer-reviewed publications. > > - Investigate privacy in mobile networks, especially with IPv6 > > - Investigate mobile device policy management for functions such as networ= k > discovery, congestion reporting and flow management > > - provide a general forum for discussing mobility studies in a larger sens= e > such as vehicular networks, personal area networks, 4G performance studies= , > testbed evaluations etc. > > - provide a forum for discussing experimental testbeds, results and so > forth. > > We would like to hear your thoughts. > > We are on the agenda for the Quebec City IETF. Please let us know if you > would like to request a slot on any relevant topic. At this point, we are > open for any new relevant topics. > > Regards, > > -Rajeev Koodli, Suresh Krishnan > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mobopts mailing list > Mobopts@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts > > From behcetsarikaya@yahoo.com Mon Jun 27 09:42:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobopts@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4466611E8139 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:42:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V-p-xrJGic2A for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nm24-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm24-vm1.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.227]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C241E11E810D for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [98.139.91.64] by nm24.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2011 16:11:12 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.57] by tm4.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2011 16:11:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2011 16:11:12 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 732048.13181.bm@omp1057.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 3622 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jun 2011 16:11:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1309191072; bh=/QD4apBVHdp7FyuG2t+pM0/mqimIWF00XdC9mcWg/tQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fS7d45uKAhFrU9kz1mqJSurph6M88iz9NPGFpZ7GhVroO95vFIMy05wGo6CNuX1ZTo7IY/jb6UztuQAz+c8bXNDfF5ApIBhZC9nlb1BumvKgjNG9/JKlYr5uN3xejDhR4fbcJ+/Zq6GajToqRDYuKWmEkcnkgWn+g2ZKbmr8hfo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=j+lbnP3rnr4bO866EvdyHkrc5s0c4no5J0BriK4oZMXAb0rWwYN7uSgAj59YiHWZfVjImpqQLj/b8iGQog8UEsx9AesQu4XiR7Jj5YAIpxDuXH2IipptI1MXeSqT89jjZgJmzEG5HImMdbi14bdN0evt7SIsp2Cg43gCjtlmEN8=; X-YMail-OSG: z9023asVM1mdp4DvuSaJS.YC9dDGcj5DktRhm9jckUfq.hb YRS3KKXMWHiJ9MBOOQ5.QjUXnPYF7qVM6IRaPyX0N9hZ6EynUhScQLsQ_vu3 w8AvIYex9DwxrSd4886wdZ7uIhvk4NtR8Pors.gJqrXqs6d7_Fm5ddAXnTPk H.r4d9AUhKzEAubSIukF94WOMgcHB0wSsbGupR_Ug927q6XKd0BScsvDtIyT S4URqpRzwfpGlOjLsJagizZJ1pIFl3hikc8B07x95OpjpQiwsdIzgNibaGN_ WyGfgFGG13g.S7FcuzTdX2uECgAayGW_syh4Cp.A5C4s2sr1nI69izI_fx27 msOh7cZxgadptP6d7BeEsblheZ6br6kzpHX_5PM__lKL4TmSoz4BHzVRta3I ol5b6nHaRPp2kXg-- Received: from [206.16.17.212] by web111413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:11:11 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/572 YahooMailWebService/0.8.112.307740 References: Message-ID: <1309191071.3488.YahooMailRC@web111413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Behcet Sarikaya To: Rajeev Koodli , mobopts@irtf.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Suresh Krishnan Subject: Re: [Mobopts] RG Status, Meeting in Quebec City X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Behcet Sarikaya List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:42:00 -0000 Hi Rajeev, As for - Investigate new mobility mechanisms and architectures, publish them as peer-reviewed publications. Does this item include dmm? As you know currently all dmm drafts are submitted to mext :-). Regards, Behcet > > Hello folks, > > It's been a while.. I wanted to share with you a quick status update. > > First, RFC 6252 (Media Independent Pre-authentication Framework) was > published. Congratulations to the authors and the RG! So, we have published > all the outstanding documents (5 RFCs in all). > > Next, let me introduce Suresh Krishnan as the new co-chair of MobOpts. > Suresh is keen on providing the rejuvenation the RG can benefit from, and > will the lead the effort. > > We have had some exchange on this. The thinking is to broaden the scope of > the mobility work, including (but not limited to) the following: > > - Investigate new mobility mechanisms and architectures, publish them as > peer-reviewed publications. > > - Investigate privacy in mobile networks, especially with IPv6 > > - Investigate mobile device policy management for functions such as network > discovery, congestion reporting and flow management > > - provide a general forum for discussing mobility studies in a larger sense > such as vehicular networks, personal area networks, 4G performance studies, > testbed evaluations etc. > > - provide a forum for discussing experimental testbeds, results and so > forth. > > We would like to hear your thoughts. > > We are on the agenda for the Quebec City IETF. Please let us know if you > would like to request a slot on any relevant topic. At this point, we are > open for any new relevant topics. > > Regards, > > -Rajeev Koodli, Suresh Krishnan > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mobopts mailing list > Mobopts@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/mobopts > From suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com Mon Jun 27 10:05:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobopts@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9789111E8111 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:05:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.402, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wi3mxR8BvguS for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9873B11E810D for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.32]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id p5RH5Dak015404; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:05:23 -0500 Received: from [142.133.10.107] (147.117.20.214) by eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se (147.117.20.92) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.137.0; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:05:17 -0400 Message-ID: <4E08B69F.7090906@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:58:07 -0400 From: Suresh Krishnan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20101027) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Behcet Sarikaya References: <1309191071.3488.YahooMailRC@web111413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1309191071.3488.YahooMailRC@web111413.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mobopts@irtf.org" Subject: Re: [Mobopts] RG Status, Meeting in Quebec City X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:05:27 -0000 Hi Behcet, On 11-06-27 12:11 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: > Hi Rajeev, > > > As for > - Investigate new mobility mechanisms and architectures, publish them as > peer-reviewed publications. > > Does this item include dmm? dmm as in "operational considerations for the use of (ds)mip6 protocols unchanged in a distributed fashion", no. Otherwise, DMM as the concept of distributed mobility management is certainly fair game. The goal is to allow people to present alternative (read non-mip*) based mobility management schemes as well. > As you know currently all dmm drafts are submitted to mext :-). Right. And it will stay that way :-). Thanks Suresh From lars.eggert@nokia.com Tue Jun 28 22:25:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mobopts@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mobopts@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528EF21F8728 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:25:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.800, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yz9cwnAtysWw for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-da01.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78E721F84D5 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (esdhcp030222.research.nokia.com [172.21.30.222]) by mgw-da01.nokia.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id p5T5P6gJ000419 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:25:07 +0300 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.1 at fit.nokia.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Lars Eggert In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:25:03 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1F2C0C3D-66C3-4E03-898D-3B9240A6DCE2@nokia.com> References: To: Rajeev Koodli X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mail.fit.nokia.com); Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:25:03 +0300 (EEST) X-Nokia-AV: Clean Cc: Suresh Krishnan , mobopts@irtf.org Subject: Re: [Mobopts] RG Status, Meeting in Quebec City X-BeenThere: mobopts@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobility Optimizations List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 05:25:12 -0000 Hi, On 2011-6-25, at 3:37, Rajeev Koodli wrote: > Next, let me introduce Suresh Krishnan as the new co-chair of MobOpts. > Suresh is keen on providing the rejuvenation the RG can benefit from, = and > will the lead the effort. welcome, Suresh! > We have had some exchange on this. The thinking is to broaden the = scope of > the mobility work, including (but not limited to) the following: >=20 > - Investigate new mobility mechanisms and architectures, publish them = as > peer-reviewed publications. >=20 > - Investigate privacy in mobile networks, especially with IPv6 >=20 > - Investigate mobile device policy management for functions such as = network > discovery, congestion reporting and flow management >=20 > - provide a general forum for discussing mobility studies in a larger = sense > such as vehicular networks, personal area networks, 4G performance = studies, > testbed evaluations etc. >=20 > - provide a forum for discussing experimental testbeds, results and so > forth. >=20 > We would like to hear your thoughts. This is a good plan for MOBOPTS to stay active and relevant. But it is = also significantly broadening the charter compared to what we currently = have. This is not an issue per se, but the IAB and myself will want to = see substantial, continuous and relevant researcher participation in the = RG, before approving a new charter. I hope that the meeting in Quebec = will put us on the track for that to occur. Thanks, Lars=