From nobody Tue Apr 5 10:01:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AFF12D8A1 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 10:01:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CT_3PKv-d85e for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 10:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz131.inmotionhosting.com (biz131.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64F6E12D8A2 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 10:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [64.31.33.167] (port=64677 helo=Steves-MacBook-Air.local) by biz131.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1anULW-0005b8-Em for modern@ietf.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2016 10:00:59 -0700 To: "modern@ietf.org" From: Steve Donovan Message-ID: <5703EF44.7020709@usdonovans.com> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 14:00:52 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz131.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - usdonovans.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: biz131.inmotionhosting.com: authenticated_id: srdonovan@usdonovans.com X-Authenticated-Sender: biz131.inmotionhosting.com: srdonovan@usdonovans.com Archived-At: Subject: [Modern] New version of MODERN problems draft X-BeenThere: modern@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managing, Ordering, Distributing, Exposing, & Registering telephone Numbers non-WG discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2016 17:01:08 -0000 All, For those who haven't seen it, there is a new version of the MODERN problems draft that was submitted by Jon and Tom. Updates to this version were based on the discussions during the interim meeting. This will be the basis for discussion during this weeks MODERN working group meeting, with the intent to make a consensus call on it becoming a working group draft. The new version of the draft can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-peterson-modern-problems/ Regards, Steve From nobody Tue Apr 5 10:03:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E28A12D86E for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 10:03:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3TxbSJK3ZeAp for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 10:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1on0713.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fc10::713]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 546A212D140 for ; 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Best regards, Pierce Gorman Office: 913-439-4368 pierce.gorman@sprint.com -----Original Message----- From: Modern [mailto:modern-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Steve Donovan Sent: April 05, 2016 12:01 PM To: modern@ietf.org Subject: [Modern] New version of MODERN problems draft All, For those who haven't seen it, there is a new version of the MODERN problem= s draft that was submitted by Jon and Tom. Updates to this version were ba= sed on the discussions during the interim meeting. This will be the basis f= or discussion during this weeks MODERN working group meeting, with the inte= nt to make a consensus call on it becoming a working group draft. 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Best regards, Pierce Gorman Office: 913-439-4368 pierce.gorman@sprint.com -----Original Message----- From: Modern [mailto:modern-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Steve Donovan Sent: April 05, 2016 12:01 PM To: modern@ietf.org Subject: [Modern] New version of MODERN problems draft All, For those who haven't seen it, there is a new version of the MODERN problem= s draft that was submitted by Jon and Tom. Updates to this version were ba= sed on the discussions during the interim meeting. This will be the basis f= or discussion during this weeks MODERN working group meeting, with the inte= nt to make a consensus call on it becoming a working group draft. The new version of the draft can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-peterson-modern-problems/ Regards, Steve _______________________________________________ Modern mailing list Modern@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/modern ________________________________ This e-mail may contain Sprint proprietary information intended for the sol= e use of the recipient(s). Any use by others is prohibited. If you are not = the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies of = the message. _______________________________________________ Modern mailing list Modern@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/modern From nobody Tue Apr 5 10:34:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BEB12D775 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 10:34:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VWAq-WStrLsX for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz131.inmotionhosting.com (biz131.inmotionhosting.com [66.117.3.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A2EC12D766 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2016 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [64.31.33.197] (port=50516 helo=Steves-MacBook-Air.local) by biz131.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1anUs6-000Vme-LN; Tue, 05 Apr 2016 10:34:39 -0700 To: "Gorman, Pierce A [CTO]" , "modern@ietf.org" References: <5703EF44.7020709@usdonovans.com> <52d0ad3e7db54e5186b6f073d0ca9000@PLSWE13M08.ad.sprint.com> From: Steve Donovan Message-ID: <5703F728.9040004@usdonovans.com> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 14:34:32 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <52d0ad3e7db54e5186b6f073d0ca9000@PLSWE13M08.ad.sprint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz131.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - usdonovans.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: biz131.inmotionhosting.com: authenticated_id: srdonovan@usdonovans.com X-Authenticated-Sender: biz131.inmotionhosting.com: srdonovan@usdonovans.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Modern] New version of MODERN problems draft X-BeenThere: modern@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managing, Ordering, Distributing, Exposing, & Registering telephone Numbers non-WG discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2016 17:34:41 -0000 Pierce, Look here: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/95/remote-participation.html for information on remote participation. Regards, Steve On 4/5/16 2:03 PM, Gorman, Pierce A [CTO] wrote: > Will remote access be provided for the meeting in Buenos Aires? > > Best regards, > > > Pierce Gorman > Office: 913-439-4368 > pierce.gorman@sprint.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Modern [mailto:modern-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Steve Donovan > Sent: April 05, 2016 12:01 PM > To: modern@ietf.org > Subject: [Modern] New version of MODERN problems draft > > All, > > For those who haven't seen it, there is a new version of the MODERN problems draft that was submitted by Jon and Tom. Updates to this version were based on the discussions during the interim meeting. This will be the basis for discussion during this weeks MODERN working group meeting, with the intent to make a consensus call on it becoming a working group draft. > > The new version of the draft can be found here: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-peterson-modern-problems/ > > Regards, > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Modern mailing list > Modern@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/modern > > ________________________________ > > This e-mail may contain Sprint proprietary information intended for the sole use of the recipient(s). Any use by others is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies of the message. From nobody Tue Apr 12 12:12:58 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA6512E7E8 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:12:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8fayqiHwzIdE for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz131.inmotionhosting.com (biz131.inmotionhosting.com [74.124.197.190]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BEDB512E7DA for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpe-97-99-50-102.tx.res.rr.com ([97.99.50.102]:53001 helo=Steves-MacBook-Air.local) by biz131.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1aq3k2-002i07-GD for modern@ietf.org; Tue, 12 Apr 2016 12:12:55 -0700 References: To: "modern@ietf.org" From: Steve Donovan X-Forwarded-Message-Id: Message-ID: <570D48B1.8010603@usdonovans.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 14:12:49 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz131.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - usdonovans.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: biz131.inmotionhosting.com: authenticated_id: srdonovan@usdonovans.com X-Authenticated-Sender: biz131.inmotionhosting.com: srdonovan@usdonovans.com Archived-At: Subject: [Modern] MODERN notes X-BeenThere: modern@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managing, Ordering, Distributing, Exposing, & Registering telephone Numbers non-WG discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 19:12:57 -0000 All, Please find the notes for the MODERN working group meeting during IETF 95 in Buenos Aires below. Thanks to Chris Seal for agreeing to take notes. Please let me know if any updates to the minutes are required. Regards, Steve ----- Jon Peterson - draft-peterson-modern-problems-04 MODERN hasn't been an easy topic - lots of differing opinion. Slow progress - JP keen to see speedier progress. JP. Wants agreement from room that this edition is a good start - else why bother. Enterprise Role is optional - not necessarily there - User could have direct relationship with CSP (Registrar). Questions: * Chair: How many have read draft? Answer: Only a small number of hands up. * Peter K online. Does a single CSP provide all services? JP: Not necessarily * Comment from Henning S online - looks like good as starting point. * Chris Seal. What/where is the actual problem statement (as not presented). It is in Section 1 of draft-peterson-modern- problems-04. Chair: Call to accept draft-peterson-modern-problems-04. General Hum in Room + 1 online. No Hums against. Will confirm consensus on the WG list. Alissa - if document isn't advanced to a WG document, then there will be discussions on the future of the working group. ------- Tom McGarry https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/slides/slides-95-modern-0.pdf US wants nationwide non-geographical number portability solution. Presentation is informational - not intended to be progressed. Steve - Might be worth keeping the document going as a good use case to guide and exercise other MODERN work. Alissa - Some discussion in IESG about not publishing similar drafts, i.e. whether it's worth pushing through with RFC number as an informational draft ----- Chris Wendt - on DRiP https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/95/slides/slides-95-modern-1.pdf JP. There will be a future requirement for reconciliation. Chair: Should DRiP be separate or include in MODERN? Feedback from several that it could be included. Alissa - would just about fit in to Charter (with a squint) at a suitable milestone. From nobody Wed Apr 13 11:20:11 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF29D12D123 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:20:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.121 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MCKLaVyu6X9o for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz131.inmotionhosting.com (biz131.inmotionhosting.com [74.124.197.190]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 289BD12B078 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpe-97-99-50-102.tx.res.rr.com ([97.99.50.102]:58881 helo=Steves-MacBook-Air.local) by biz131.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1aqPOY-002Jty-1V for modern@ietf.org; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:20:09 -0700 To: "modern@ietf.org" From: Steve Donovan Message-ID: <570E8DD5.7070702@usdonovans.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:20:05 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz131.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - usdonovans.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: biz131.inmotionhosting.com: authenticated_id: srdonovan@usdonovans.com X-Authenticated-Sender: biz131.inmotionhosting.com: srdonovan@usdonovans.com Archived-At: Subject: [Modern] MODERN problem statement X-BeenThere: modern@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managing, Ordering, Distributing, Exposing, & Registering telephone Numbers non-WG discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 18:20:10 -0000 All, During the MODERN meeting at IETF 95 in Buenos Aires, we had strong consensus to make draft-peterson-modern-problems-04.txt a working group document. For those not familiar with IETF processes, this does not mean that the contents of the document are final, it just means that the document will the starting point for addressing the architecture milestone in the MODERN charter. Please post comments on the list by next Wednesday. Assuming the consensus expressed in the meeting carries over to the list then the document will become a working group document on Wednesday, April 20th. Regards, Steve From nobody Wed Apr 13 15:18:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E28D312E564 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:18:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oZUKLRhGaSLQ for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35EC912E561 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.10] (cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id u3DMHZlP021996 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:18:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4] claimed to be [10.0.1.10] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "Steve Donovan" , "Modern List" Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:18:01 -0500 Message-ID: <344F81CF-9888-47BA-8C41-6FD4D957828E@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <570E8DD5.7070702@usdonovans.com> References: <570E8DD5.7070702@usdonovans.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.4r5234) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Modern] MODERN problem statement X-BeenThere: modern@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managing, Ordering, Distributing, Exposing, & Registering telephone Numbers non-WG discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 22:18:04 -0000 (as individual) I support adoption. Ben. On 13 Apr 2016, at 13:20, Steve Donovan wrote: > All, > > During the MODERN meeting at IETF 95 in Buenos Aires, we had strong > consensus to make draft-peterson-modern-problems-04.txt a working > group document. > > For those not familiar with IETF processes, this does not mean that > the contents of the document are final, it just means that the > document will the starting point for addressing the architecture > milestone in the MODERN charter. > > Please post comments on the list by next Wednesday. Assuming the > consensus expressed in the meeting carries over to the list then the > document will become a working group document on Wednesday, April > 20th. > > Regards, > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Modern mailing list > Modern@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/modern From nobody Thu Apr 14 03:27:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A1F12E03A for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 03:27:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.996, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d0OKPFTsog8V for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 03:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E02AB12DED6 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 03:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3EARrOl030808 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 14 Apr 2016 10:27:54 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3EARr5b024692 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 14 Apr 2016 10:27:53 GMT Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3EARruZ025635; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 10:27:53 GMT Received: from [10.234.247.179] (/47.60.54.71) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 14 Apr 2016 03:27:53 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <570E8DD5.7070702@usdonovans.com> From: Victor Pascual Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <570E8DD5.7070702@usdonovans.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 11:55:31 +0200 To: Steve Donovan X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12D508) X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] Archived-At: Cc: "modern@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Modern] MODERN problem statement X-BeenThere: modern@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managing, Ordering, Distributing, Exposing, & Registering telephone Numbers non-WG discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 10:27:57 -0000 I support adoption > On 13 Apr 2016, at 20:20, Steve Donovan wrote: >=20 > All, >=20 > During the MODERN meeting at IETF 95 in Buenos Aires, we had strong consen= sus to make draft-peterson-modern-problems-04.txt a working group document. >=20 > For those not familiar with IETF processes, this does not mean that the co= ntents of the document are final, it just means that the document will the s= tarting point for addressing the architecture milestone in the MODERN charte= r. >=20 > Please post comments on the list by next Wednesday. 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DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:SN1PR08MB1360; H:SN1PR08MB1360.namprd08.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: peerlessnetwork.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 15 Apr 2016 14:52:06.4885 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: e440ed07-2da5-4814-b654-d9e0c1fa3507 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: SN1PR08MB1360 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Modern] MODERN problem statement X-BeenThere: modern@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managing, Ordering, Distributing, Exposing, & Registering telephone Numbers non-WG discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 14:52:29 -0000 SSBzdXBwb3J0IGFkb3B0aW9uLg0KDQpKaW0gQnJld2VyDQoNClZpY2UgUHJlc2lkZW50DQoNClBl ZXJsZXNzIE5ldHdvcmsNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KT24gNC8xMy8xNiwgMToyMCBQTSwg Ik1vZGVybiBvbiBiZWhhbGYgb2YgU3RldmUgRG9ub3ZhbiIgPG1vZGVybi1ib3VuY2VzQGlldGYu b3JnIG9uIGJlaGFsZiBvZiBzcmRvbm92YW5AdXNkb25vdmFucy5jb20+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQo+QWxs LA0KPg0KPkR1cmluZyB0aGUgTU9ERVJOIG1lZXRpbmcgYXQgSUVURiA5NSBpbiBCdWVub3MgQWly ZXMsIHdlIGhhZCBzdHJvbmcgDQo+Y29uc2Vuc3VzIHRvIG1ha2UgZHJhZnQtcGV0ZXJzb24tbW9k ZXJuLXByb2JsZW1zLTA0LnR4dCBhIHdvcmtpbmcgZ3JvdXAgDQo+ZG9jdW1lbnQuDQo+DQo+Rm9y IHRob3NlIG5vdCBmYW1pbGlhciB3aXRoIElFVEYgcHJvY2Vzc2VzLCB0aGlzIGRvZXMgbm90IG1l YW4gdGhhdCB0aGUgDQo+Y29udGVudHMgb2YgdGhlIGRvY3VtZW50IGFyZSBmaW5hbCwgaXQganVz dCBtZWFucyB0aGF0IHRoZSBkb2N1bWVudCB3aWxsIA0KPnRoZSBzdGFydGluZyBwb2ludCBmb3Ig YWRkcmVzc2luZyB0aGUgYXJjaGl0ZWN0dXJlIG1pbGVzdG9uZSBpbiB0aGUgDQo+TU9ERVJOIGNo YXJ0ZXIuDQo+DQo+UGxlYXNlIHBvc3QgY29tbWVudHMgb24gdGhlIGxpc3QgYnkgbmV4dCBXZWRu ZXNkYXkuICBBc3N1bWluZyB0aGUgDQo+Y29uc2Vuc3VzIGV4cHJlc3NlZCBpbiB0aGUgbWVldGlu ZyBjYXJyaWVzIG92ZXIgdG8gdGhlIGxpc3QgdGhlbiB0aGUgDQo+ZG9jdW1lbnQgd2lsbCBiZWNv bWUgYSB3b3JraW5nIGdyb3VwIGRvY3VtZW50IG9uIFdlZG5lc2RheSwgQXByaWwgMjB0aC4NCj4N Cj5SZWdhcmRzLA0KPg0KPlN0ZXZlDQo+DQo+X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCj5Nb2Rlcm4gbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0DQo+TW9kZXJuQGlldGYub3Jn DQo+aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaWV0Zi5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9tb2Rlcm4NCg== From nobody Thu Apr 21 05:06:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8225612E62B for ; 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Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <570E8DD5.7070702@usdonovans.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz131.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - usdonovans.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: biz131.inmotionhosting.com: authenticated_id: srdonovan@usdonovans.com X-Authenticated-Sender: biz131.inmotionhosting.com: srdonovan@usdonovans.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Modern] MODERN problem statement X-BeenThere: modern@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Managing, Ordering, Distributing, Exposing, & Registering telephone Numbers non-WG discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 12:06:41 -0000 All, Based on consensus reached during the meeting in Buenos Aires and confirmed on the MODERN mailing list, the Modern Problems draft is now a working group draft. Regards, Steve On 4/13/16 1:20 PM, Steve Donovan wrote: > All, > > During the MODERN meeting at IETF 95 in Buenos Aires, we had strong > consensus to make draft-peterson-modern-problems-04.txt a working > group document. > > For those not familiar with IETF processes, this does not mean that > the contents of the document are final, it just means that the > document will the starting point for addressing the architecture > milestone in the MODERN charter. > > Please post comments on the list by next Wednesday. Assuming the > consensus expressed in the meeting carries over to the list then the > document will become a working group document on Wednesday, April 20th. > > Regards, > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Modern mailing list > Modern@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/modern From nobody Thu Apr 21 10:30:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: modern@ietf.org Delivered-To: modern@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A7412E079; Thu, 21 Apr 2016 10:30:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.19.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20160421173026.19654.28516.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 10:30:26 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: modern@ietf.org Subject: [Modern] I-D Action: draft-ietf-modern-problem-framework-00.txt X-BeenThere: modern@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: "Managing, Ordering, Distributing, Exposing, & Registering telephone Numbers non-WG discussion list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 17:30:26 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Managing, Ordering, Distributing, Exposing, & Registering telephone Numbers of the IETF. Title : Modern Problem Statement, Use Cases, and Framework Authors : Jon Peterson Tom McGarry Filename : draft-ietf-modern-problem-framework-00.txt Pages : 22 Date : 2016-04-21 Abstract: The functions of the public switched telephone network (PSTN) are rapidly migrating to the Internet. This is generating new requirements for many traditional elements of the PSTN, including telephone numbers (TNs). TNs no longer serve simply as telephone routing addresses, they are now identifiers which may be used by Internet-based services for a variety of purposes including session establishment, identity verification, and service enablement. This problem statement examines how the existing tools for allocating and managing telephone numbers do not align with the use cases of the Internet environment, and proposes a framework for Internet-based services relying on TNs. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-modern-problem-framework/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-modern-problem-framework-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/