From nobody Thu Jul 2 17:23:01 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mops@ietf.org Delivered-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE973A0957; Thu, 2 Jul 2020 17:20:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: mops@ietf.org, evyncke@cisco.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.7.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <159373563736.30173.1293760005770099904@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 17:20:37 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Mops] mops - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 108 X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 00:20:49 -0000 Dear Leslie Daigle, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. mops Session 1 (0:50 requested) Tuesday, 28 July 2020, Session II 1300-1350 Room Name: Room 4 size: 4 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/108/sessions/mops.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Media OPerationS Area Name: Operations and Management Area Session Requester: Leslie Daigle Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 50 Minutes Number of Attendees: 30 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair Conflict: gendispatch add taps secdispatch iccrg Technology Overlap: dispatch mboned Key Participant Conflict: tsvwg quic People who must be present: Sanjay Mishra Glenn Deen Leslie Daigle Spencer Dawkins Eric Vyncke Kyle Rose Jake Holland Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Sun Jul 12 18:08:45 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mops@ietf.org Delivered-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B69E3A00D6; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:08:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mops@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.8.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mops@ietf.org Message-ID: <159460252346.22492.16146253459323820357@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 18:08:43 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Mops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-02.txt X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2020 01:08:44 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Media OPerationS WG of the IETF. Title : Operational Considerations for Streaming Media Authors : Jake Holland Ali Begen Spencer Dawkins Filename : draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-02.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2020-07-12 Abstract: This document provides an overview of operational networking issues that pertain to quality of experience in delivery of video and other high-bitrate media over the internet. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 12:44 AM Leslie Daigle wrote: > Hi, > > This is what we have so far by way of agenda =E2=80=94 thoughts/additions= ? It will > be just a 50min session. > > DRAFT > > Media OPerationS (MOPS) WG > > IETF 108 (Virtual) > > > DRAFT Agenda > > Intro > > Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc, > [5min] chair(s) > > Review of concrete work items: > > [10min] Draft of edge network operational considerations for streaming > media > Jake Holland > draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons > > Updates from other work > [20min] =E2=80=9CBest Practices for the End-to-End Workflow Monitoring=E2= =80=9D from SVA > QoE WG > Chris Kulbakas > > General discussion of issues > > > Operational Issues Observed > > > [10min] Update on/for/from Hackathon comparative study of media transport > protocols > Dr. Alex Gouaillard > > AOB > > Leslie. > > -- > ------------------------------ > > Leslie Daigle > Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises > ldaigle@thinkingcat.com > -- > Mops mailing list > Mops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mops > --=20 Alex. Gouaillard, PhD, PhD, MBA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- President - CoSMo Software Consulting, Singapore ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------- sg.linkedin.com/agouaillard - --000000000000b5780e05aa4f6b06 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
so tuesday, 28th of july, session II ?

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020= at 12:44 AM Leslie Daigle <l= daigle@thinkingcat.com> wrote:

Hi,

This is what we have so far by way of agenda =E2=80=94 thou= ghts/additions? It will be just a 50min session.

DRAFT

Media OPerationS (MOPS) WG

IETF 108 (Virtual)
<Date =E2=80=94 TBD>
<Location =E2=80=94 TBD>
DRAFT Agenda

Intro

Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc,
[5min] chair(s)

Review of concrete work items:

[10min] Draft of edge network operational considerations fo= r streaming media
Jake Holland
draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons

Updates from other work
[20min] =E2=80=9CBest Practices for the End-to-End Workflow Monitoring=E2= =80=9D from SVA QoE WG
Chris Kulbakas

General discussion of issues
<tbd>

Operational Issues Observed
<tbd>

[10min] Update on/for/from Hackathon comparative study of m= edia transport protocols
Dr. Alex Gouaillard

AOB

Leslie.

--

Leslie Daigle
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises

ldaigle@thinkingcat.com=

--
Mops mailing list
Mops@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mops


--
Alex. Gouaillard, PhD, PhD, MBA
-------------= -----------------------------------------------------------------------
President - CoSMo Software Consulting, Singapore
---------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------=

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Leslie. On 13 Jul 2020, at 5:35, Alexandre GOUAILLARD wrote: > so tuesday, 28th of july, session II ? > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 12:44 AM Leslie Daigle = > > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is what we have so far by way of agenda =E2=80=94 thoughts/additi= ons? = >> It will >> be just a 50min session. >> >> DRAFT >> >> Media OPerationS (MOPS) WG >> >> IETF 108 (Virtual) >> >> >> DRAFT Agenda >> >> Intro >> >> Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc, >> [5min] chair(s) >> >> Review of concrete work items: >> >> [10min] Draft of edge network operational considerations for = >> streaming >> media >> Jake Holland >> draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons >> >> Updates from other work >> [20min] =E2=80=9CBest Practices for the End-to-End Workflow Monitoring= =E2=80=9D = >> from SVA >> QoE WG >> Chris Kulbakas >> >> General discussion of issues >> >> >> Operational Issues Observed >> >> >> [10min] Update on/for/from Hackathon comparative study of media = >> transport >> protocols >> Dr. Alex Gouaillard >> >> AOB >> >> Leslie. >> >> -- >> ------------------------------ >> >> Leslie Daigle >> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises >> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com >> -- >> Mops mailing list >> Mops@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mops >> > > > -- = > Alex. Gouaillard, PhD, PhD, MBA > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- > President - CoSMo Software Consulting, Singapore > -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------- > sg.linkedin.com/agouaillard > > - -- = ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_09888095-A945-4E6B-B8C2-85642A93DB34_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Tuesday, July 28, at 13h00 UTC+2, wherever that lands in = the slots list=E2=80=A6.

Leslie.

On 13 Jul 2020, at 5:35, Alexandre GOUAILLARD wrote:

so tuesday, 28th of july, session II ?

On Fri, Jun 26, 20= 20 at 12:44 AM Leslie Daigle <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com> wrote:
<= u>

Hi,

This is what we have so far by way of agenda =E2=80=94 th= oughts/additions? It will be just a 50min session.

DRAFT

Media OPerationS (MOPS) WG

IETF 108 (Virtual)
<Date =E2=80=94 TBD>
<Location =E2=80=94 TBD>
DRAFT Agenda

Intro

Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc,
[5min] chair(s)

Review of concrete work items:

[10min] Draft of edge network operational considerations = for streaming media
Jake Holland
draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons

Updates from other work
[20min] =E2=80=9CBest Practices for the End-to-End Workflow Monitoring=E2= =80=9D from SVA QoE WG
Chris Kulbakas

General discussion of issues
<tbd>

Operational Issues Observed
<tbd>

[10min] Update on/for/from Hackathon comparative study of= media transport protocols
Dr. Alex Gouaillard

AOB

Leslie.

--

Leslie Daigle
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises

ldaigle@thinkingcat.com=

--
Mops mailing list
Mops@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mops


--
Alex. Gouaillard, PhD, PhD, MBA
--------= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---
President - CoSMo Software Consulting, Singapore
= -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -----------

--

Leslie Daigle
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises

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charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I=E2=80=99ve posted the current draft agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/108/materials/agenda-108-mops-00 Media OPerationS (MOPS) WG =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D IETF 108 (Virtual) Tuesday, July 28, 2020 13h00-13h50 UTC+2 Virtual DRAFT Agenda =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Intro ----- * Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc, [5min] chair(s) Review of concrete work items ----------------------------- * [10min] Draft of edge network operational considerations for streaming=20 media Jake Holland draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons Updates from other work ----------------------- * [20min] =E2=80=9CBest Practices for the End-to-End Workflow Monitoring=E2= =80=9D=20 from SVA QoE WG Chris Kulbakas * [10min] Update on/for/from Hackathon comparative study of media=20 transport protocols Dr. Alex Gouaillard AOB --- * Media Operations Use Case for an Augmented Reality Application on Edge=20 Computing Infrastructure Renan Krishna draft-krishna-mops-ar-use-case-00 * General discussion of issues * Operational Issues Observed --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_F1570B3F-945F-4932-A8AE-1D37CFEF87D0_= Content-Type: text/html; 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Hi,

I=E2=80=99ve posted the current draft agenda:

https://datatracker.ietf= =2Eorg/meeting/108/materials/agenda-108-mops-00

Media OPerationS (MOPS) WG

IETF 108 (Virtual)
Tuesday, July 28, 2020
13h00-13h50 UTC+2
Virtual

DRAFT Agenda

Intro

  • Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc, [5min] chair(s)

Review of concrete work items

  • [10min] Draft of edge network operational considerations for streamin= g media Jake Holland draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons

Updates from other work

  • [20min] =E2=80=9CBest Practices for the End-to-End Wo= rkflow Monitoring=E2=80=9D from SVA QoE WG
    Chris Kulbakas

  • [10min] Update on/for/from Hackathon comparative stud= y of media transport protocols
    Dr. Alex Gouaillard

AOB

  • Media Operations Use Case for an Augmented Reality Application on Edg= e Computing Infrastructure Renan Krishna draft-krishna-mops-ar-use-case-00
  • General discussion of issues
  • Operational Issues Observed

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Leslie Daigle
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises

ldaigle@thinkingcat.com

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone, We have submitted a draft titled: Media Operations Use Case for an Augmented Reality Application on Edge Comp= uting Infrastructure * https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-krishna-mops-ar-use-case-00 This is a use case draft describing transmission of an application on the = Internet that has several unique characteristics of Augmented Reality (AR)= applications. We look forward to presenting it in the IETF-108 virtual me= eting. Any feedback in the meantime would be much appreciated! Regards, Renan Dr. Renan Krishna Staff Engineer | InterDigital T: +44-20-39221788 E: Renan.Krishna@InterDigital.com --_000_DM6PR10MB43169398C618D0CA8951AB9F977C0DM6PR10MB4316namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Everyone,

 

We have submitted a draft titled:

Media Operations Use Case for an = Augmented Reality Application on Edge Computing Infrastructure

 

This is a use case draft  describing transmissi= on of an application on the Internet  that has several unique characte= ristics of Augmented Reality (AR)  applications. We look forward to pr= esenting it in the IETF-108 virtual meeting.  Any feedback in the meantime would be much appreciated!

 

Regards,

Renan

 

 <= /p>

 

Dr. Renan Krishna

Staff E= ngineer | InterDigital

T:=  +44-20-39221788

E:=   Renan.Krishna@I= nterDigital.com

 

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X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 22:14:07 -0000 --=_MailMate_7E57E61D-C8E1-4652-8B7E-C3F559BA3DB2_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Looking for volunteer jabber scribe and minutes taker for next week=E2=80= =99s=20 meeting. It would be lovely to head into the session with those details=20 set :-) If you are willing to do either, please let Kyle or myself know. Thanks, Leslie. --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_7E57E61D-C8E1-4652-8B7E-C3F559BA3DB2_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=_MailMate_7E57E61D-C8E1-4652-8B7E-C3F559BA3DB2_=-- From nobody Thu Jul 23 09:40:12 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573CD3A09BB for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:40:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.118 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.118 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Kyle & I participated in yesterday=E2=80=99s second and final WG chair te= st=20 session for the new online participation setup that will be used for=20 IETF 108 (based solely on MeetEcho technology). I strongly suggest that you take the opportunity to review the available=20 material before your first IETF meeting next week. My biggest takeaway=20 from the test session was: it=E2=80=99s similar to, but not the same as,= =20 every other tool we=E2=80=99ve used for online meetings, so there will be= some=20 hiccups. You=E2=80=99ve probably seen this elsewhere, but the key thing is that th= e=20 Meetecho session is linked to the video camera icon with the tool tip=20 =E2=80=9CMeetecho video stream" on the datatracker agenda page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda/ And it will be live 10min before our session. There are test sessions pointed at in the documentation. Here are some pointers: RESOURCES + IETF 108 session chair guide https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/108/session-chair-guide/ + IETF 108 participant guide https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/108/session-participant-guide/ + Tutorial video from Meetecho https://youtu.be/cniAxuMczEk + Meetecho documentation for IETF 108 https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/Documentation-Meetecho-IETF.pdf + Recordings of Meetecho test sessions for IETF 108 - Participant test session recording https://youtu.be/SiD3Rj-Beag - Chair test session recording https://youtu.be/vMY1MHgjE_c Leslie. --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_A47E8301-6E5E-4DC1-A4BD-942E09BE3F57_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

Kyle & I participated in yesterday=E2=80=99s second a= nd final WG chair test session for the new online participation setup tha= t will be used for IETF 108 (based solely on MeetEcho technology).

I strongly suggest that you take the opportunity to revie= w the available material before your first IETF meeting next week. My bi= ggest takeaway from the test session was: it=E2=80=99s similar to, but n= ot the same as, every other tool we=E2=80=99ve used for online meetings, = so there will be some hiccups.

You=E2=80=99ve probably seen this elsewhere, but the key = thing is that the Meetecho session is linked to the video camera icon wit= h the tool tip =E2=80=9CMeetecho video stream" on the datatracker agenda = page:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda/<= /p>

And it will be live 10min before our session.

There are test sessions pointed at in the documentation.<= /p>

Here are some pointers:

RESOURCES

Leslie.

--

Leslie Daigle
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises

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charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I=E2=80=99ve posted a corrected agenda in the meeting materials, and I=E2= =80=99m=20 sure everyone is following the IETF agenda not my text agenda below, but=20 to be clear: MOPS is set to go at 13h00 UTC on Tuesday Not UTC+2 as originally stated in the agenda file. Apologies for any confusion. Leslie. On 13 Jul 2020, at 17:27, Leslie Daigle wrote: > Hi, > > I=E2=80=99ve posted the current draft agenda: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/108/materials/agenda-108-mops-00 > > Media OPerationS (MOPS) WG > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D > > IETF 108 (Virtual) > Tuesday, July 28, 2020 > 13h00-13h50 UTC+2 > Virtual > > DRAFT Agenda > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > Intro > ----- > > * Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc, > [5min] chair(s) > > Review of concrete work items > ----------------------------- > > * [10min] Draft of edge network operational considerations for=20 > streaming media > Jake Holland > draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons > > Updates from other work > ----------------------- > * [20min] =E2=80=9CBest Practices for the End-to-End Workflow Monitorin= g=E2=80=9D=20 > from SVA QoE WG > Chris Kulbakas > > * [10min] Update on/for/from Hackathon comparative study of media=20 > transport protocols > Dr. Alex Gouaillard > > AOB > --- > * Media Operations Use Case for an Augmented Reality Application on=20 > Edge Computing Infrastructure > Renan Krishna > draft-krishna-mops-ar-use-case-00 > * General discussion of issues > * Operational Issues Observed > > --=20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Leslie Daigle > Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises > ldaigle@thinkingcat.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > --=20 > Mops mailing list > Mops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mops --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_F4F33552-5FDC-4B32-95E5-777BF7A55126_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

I=E2=80=99ve posted a corrected agenda in the meeting mat= erials, and I=E2=80=99m sure everyone is following the IETF agenda not my= text agenda below, but to be clear:

MOPS is set to go=
 at 13h00 UTC on Tuesday

Not UTC+2 as originally stated in the agenda file.

Apologies for any confusion.

Leslie.

On 13 Jul 2020, at 17:27, Leslie Daigle wrote:

Hi,

I=E2=80=99ve posted the current draft agenda:

https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/meeting/108/materials/agenda-108-mops-00

Media OPerationS (MOPS) WG

IETF 108 (Virtual)
Tuesday, July 28, 2020
13h00-13h50 UTC+2
Virtual

DRAFT Agenda

Intro

  • Agenda Bashing, Blue Sheets, etc, [5min] chair(s)

Review of concrete work items

  • [10min] Draft of edge network operational considerations for streamin= g media Jake Holland draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons

Updates from other work

  • [20min] =E2=80=9CBest Practices for the End-to-End Wo= rkflow Monitoring=E2=80=9D from SVA QoE WG
    Chris Kulbakas

  • [10min] Update on/for/from Hackathon comparative stud= y of media transport protocols
    Dr. Alex Gouaillard

AOB

  • Media Operations Use Case for an Augmented Reality Application on Edg= e Computing Infrastructure Renan Krishna draft-krishna-mops-ar-use-case-00
  • General discussion of issues
  • Operational Issues Observed

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Leslie Daigle
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises

ldaigle@thinkingcat.com

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Leslie Daigle
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ldaigle@thinkingcat.com

--=_MailMate_F4F33552-5FDC-4B32-95E5-777BF7A55126_=-- From nobody Tue Jul 28 06:44:12 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6263A0C58 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:44:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.079 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.079 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD=1.999, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=aruba.it Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1RqXo0d61LWK for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:43:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpcmd15177.aruba.it (smtpweb147.aruba.it [62.149.158.147]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4FB3A0C75 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 06:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lminiero ([93.35.209.44]) by Aruba Outgoing Smtp with ESMTPSA id 0PtSk1IuProxN0PtSkuEmS; Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:43:47 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=aruba.it; s=a1; t=1595943827; bh=AWlvKF5QaV8JCGpjWRPy39FURaXCMfFb3Mv6LYGZORA=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RY40lqaTaZ2tzv3EqZGw3PKwLg+GSk5cc2ghXCsgnyQzLogVjT8+p/xUGIimI90lF slnZWNhSBPNPTZgwAsi0b7eEFsKUFS6POUHdVGGvChZJWYbpSFhoUs+tkPrQVD0/3I IbD03FN+TP8EKhZUHvH0wsCF1cBC7MTbo6ZfWKW5lMDV8UPQJHgAZO4AcdC6N61fhu 6khDjfg020lsVTdAkL4OoHyLbyyHGK8WGorLqFca0S3mEWEqCXs7oHZK3i1i4MpWuz Nl/aFG/XZGMAdE6GP4RnMevKocvuYetKAJksyQf7a8J6Z/fXlgy0CWQ7rTcd0dwCbC 12Dly5A07dUrw== Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:43:45 +0200 From: Lorenzo Miniero To: mops@ietf.org Message-ID: <20200728154345.49b9ef80@lminiero> Organization: Meetecho X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.5 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfKBku4g8lsMpmpt1c7Rs0xrQFdwwtYo2GmLieg1MCNuJZutU3EpzgiIVZhCyPJXUrhKkHT/ghigjXh9xhO9I5T/ltjz49o8ibLouNf0bSRnVBB7MM9ho iskcIQhfjfRSQ5Uea3BqOdm3MSg32z7N2x8= Archived-At: Subject: [Mops] Streaming an IETF meeting X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:44:01 -0000 Hi all, there seemed to be some interest, on the MOPS jabber room, on the way we designed and implemented the remote participation platform for the IETF meeting, so I'm sharing a presentation I made a couple of weeks ago at an online event called CommCon: https://commcon.xyz/session/turning-live-events-to-virtual-with-janus The link above contains a link to both the slides (on SlideShare) and the video of the presentation itself (YouTube). It covers some of the media-related aspects of the platform, even though it might not go as much in detail as you may be interested in. In case there's anything more specific you're curious about, please don't hesitate to ask. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. First of all, thank you for the session! Special thanks to Alexandre for summarizing thoughts and TODOs towards the = comparison of protocols. Sadly we didn't have much time to discuss the comparison initiative. As a follow up to some questions raised on SRT please see my comments below= . 1. SRT versioning and maturity. SRT is the implementation driven protocol. We are working on the RFC. It will follow the informational track, and will= describe how things are done in the existing implementation. So it is safe to take the latest library version from GitHub for comparison= . 2. Is SRT a transport protocol? Yes. SRT is a transport protocol agnostic to the payload being transmitted.= Any type of content can be sent over SRT: media streams, files, messages, = etc. 3. Is SRT fully or partially reliable? SRT has both modes: fully reliable and partially reliable. Partially reliable mode is used for live media contribution and distributio= n. In this mode SRT also manages the end-to-end latency. Those packets that failed to be recovered within the specified latency wind= ow are dropped by SRT to maintain the end-to-end latency constraint. Fully reliable mode is used in case there is no latency constraints, e.g. f= ile transfer, DASH/HLS segments transfer, message exchange, etc. In this mode SRT tries to recover every lost packet until it succeeds. 4. SRT goes over TCP? SRT uses UDP with packet re-transmission (ARQ), FEC, path redundancy (aka b= onding coming in v1.5.0). 5. Does SRT overlap with QUIC? SRT overlaps with QUIC only in fully-reliable transmission mode. Both protocols are built on top of UDP and provide fully reliable delivery. QUIC datagram does not overlap with the partially reliable mode of SRT. Unlike QUIC datagram, SRT tries to recover lost packets within the latency = constraints. All packet recovery techniques can still be used in this mode. 6. Where does SRT stand? The main use case for SRT is 6.1. 6.1. Low-latency contribution and distribution. Protocols to compare with: = RTMP, RTP, RTSP. There is a comparison of SRT vs RTMP performed by Haivision. Potentially some thoughts and workflows could be taken from there to start = with. https://www.haivision.com/resources/white-paper/srt-versus-rtmp/ 6.2. Fully-reliable transport. Protocols to compare with: QUIC, TCP. The initial goal was to compare low latency protocols. So probably to reduc= e the scope it is better to start with 6.1 . Kind regards, Maxim Sharabayko From: Kyle Rose Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 00:37 To: Leslie Daigle Cc: Alexandre GOUAILLARD; Deen, Glenn; mops@ietf.org; Maxim Sharabay= ko Subject: Re: [Mops] Low latency protocol comparision On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 6:16 PM Leslie Daigle > wrote: Hi, Speaking as only one of the chairs of this group, I have to say I like how = this is shaping up. My only question is whether there is work to be done even at the IETF 108 h= ackathon, in order to establish the test cases and test suite? Happy to hear from the other co-chair of this group :^) and any other group= participants. Heh... As the other co-chair, Leslie and I are in alignment on this. If th= ere's prep work to be done at the 108 hackathon, great! If not, BKK (or, li= kely, the virtual replacement for it) sounds like a plan. Even if we don't = do anything at the 108 hackathon, there's probably a bit of prep we'll want= to do prior to the 109 hackathon, including coordinating with Charles on a= ny special network setup we might need should the meeting be held in person= . Kyle --_000_QB1PR01MB3826C7AB8B98C00C3938B68BB2730QB1PR01MB3826CANP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi.

 

First of all, thank you for the session!

Special thanks to Alexandre for summarizing thoughts= and TODOs towards the comparison of protocols.

Sadly we didn't have much time to discuss the compar= ison initiative.

 

As a follow up to some questions raised on SRT pleas= e see my comments below.

 

1. SRT versioning and maturity.

 

SRT is the implementation driven protocol.

We are working on the RFC. It will follow the inform= ational track, and will describe how things are done in the existing implem= entation.

So it is safe to take the latest library version fro= m GitHub for comparison.

 

2. Is SRT a transport protocol?

 

Yes. SRT is a transport protocol agnostic to the pay= load being transmitted. Any type of content can be sent over SRT: media str= eams, files, messages, etc.

 

3. Is SRT fully or partially reliable?

 

SRT has both modes: fully reliable and partially rel= iable.

 

Partially reliable mode is used for live media contr= ibution and distribution. In this mode SRT also manages the end-to-end late= ncy.

Those packets that failed to be recovered within the= specified latency window are dropped by SRT to maintain the end-to-end lat= ency constraint.

 

Fully reliable mode is used in case there is no late= ncy constraints, e.g. file transfer, DASH/HLS segments transfer, message ex= change, etc.

In this mode SRT tries to recover every lost packet = until it succeeds.

 

4. SRT goes over TCP?

 

SRT uses UDP with packet re-transmission (ARQ), FEC,= path redundancy (aka bonding coming in v1.5.0).

 

5. Does SRT overlap with QUIC?

 

SRT overlaps with QUIC only in fully-reliable transm= ission mode.

Both protocols are built on top of UDP and provide f= ully reliable delivery.

 

QUIC datagram does not overlap with the partially re= liable mode of SRT.

Unlike QUIC datagram, SRT tries to recover lost pack= ets within the latency constraints.

All packet recovery techniques can still be used in = this mode.

 

6. Where does SRT stand?

 

The main use case for SRT is 6.1.

 

6.1. Low-latency contribution and distribution. Prot= ocols to compare with: RTMP, RTP, RTSP.

There is a comparison of SRT vs RTMP performed by Ha= ivision.

Potentially some thoughts and workflows could be tak= en from there to start with.

https://www.haivision.com/resources/white-paper/srt-= versus-rtmp/

 

6.2. Fully-reliable transport. Protocols to compare = with: QUIC, TCP.

 

The initial goal was to compare low latency protocol= s. So probably to reduce the scope it is better to start with 6.1 .

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Maxim Sharabayko

 

From: Kyle Rose
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 00:37
To: Leslie Daigle
Cc: Alexandre GOUAILLARD; Deen, Glenn; mops@ietf.org; Maxim Sharabayko
Subject: Re: [Mops] Low latency protocol comparision

 

On Wed, Jun 24, 202= 0 at 6:16 PM Leslie Daigle <l= daigle@thinkingcat.com> wrote:

Hi,<= /span>

Speaking as onl= y one of the chairs of this group, I have to say I like how this is shaping= up.

My only questio= n is whether there is work to be done even at the IETF 108 hackathon, in or= der to establish the test cases and test suite?

Happy to hear f= rom the other co-chair of this group :^) and any other group participants.<= o:p>

 

Heh...  As the other co-chair, Leslie and I are in alignment on this. If the= re's prep work to be done at the 108 hackathon, great! If not, BKK (or, lik= ely, the virtual replacement for it) sounds like a plan. Even if we don't do anything at the 108 hackathon, there's pr= obably a bit of prep we'll want to do prior to the 109 hackathon, including= coordinating with Charles on any special network setup we might need shoul= d the meeting be held in person.

 

Kyle

 

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charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The focus of discussion stems from a comparison of low-latency=20 protocols; since that comparison was deemed inadequate, the question is=20 whether we can set up a better comparison framework and testing at a=20 hackathon. At which point I=E2=80=99d say we could/should test any interested protoc= ol. At no point is this discussion (or this WG) about which protocols should=20 be standardized by the IETF. Leslie. On 28 Jul 2020, at 15:02, Ross Finlayson wrote: > According to this Wikipedia page > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliable_Internet_Stream_Transport > there=E2=80=99s another protocol - =E2=80=9CRIST=E2=80=9D - that=E2=80=99= s "intended as a more=20 > reliable successor to Secure Reliable Transport, and as an open=20 > alternative to proprietary commercial options=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D > > If that=E2=80=99s the case, shouldn=E2=80=99t the IETF be focused on=20 > documenting/standardizing *this* protocol, rather than SRT? > =09 > > Ross Finlayson > Live Networks, Inc. > http://www.live555.com/ > > --=20 > Mops mailing list > Mops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mops --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_A86F0949-1DBD-4532-A4FA-B6ED35EB294E_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The focus of discussion stems from a comparison of low-la= tency protocols; since that comparison was deemed inadequate, the questio= n is whether we can set up a better comparison framework and testing at a= hackathon.

At which point I=E2=80=99d say we could/should test any i= nterested protocol.

At no point is this discussion (or this WG) about which p= rotocols should be standardized by the IETF.

Leslie.

On 28 Jul 2020, at 15:02, Ross Finlayson wrote:

A= ccording to this Wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliable_Internet= _Stream_Transport
there=E2=80=99s another protocol - =E2=80=9CRIST=E2=80=9D - that=E2=80=99= s "intended as a more reliable successor to Secure Reliable Transport, an= d as an open alternative to proprietary commercial options=E2=80=A6=E2=80= =9D

If that=E2=80=99s the case, shouldn=E2=80=99t the IETF be focused on docu= menting/standardizing *this* protocol, rather than SRT?


Ross Finlayson
Live Networks, Inc.
http://www.live5= 55.com/

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([2605:e000:141b:121:4c2c:6f91:1f03:3d35]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p9sm8840pja.4.2020.07.28.13.28.46 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Glenn Deen In-Reply-To: <73DC917C-835C-4F98-8FB0-4968BE58F486@live555.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 13:28:46 -0700 Cc: "mops@ietf.org" Message-Id: References: <73DC917C-835C-4F98-8FB0-4968BE58F486@live555.com> To: Ross Finlayson X-Mailer: iPad Mail (17F80) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Mops] [EXTERNAL] Re: Low latency protocol comparision X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2020 20:28:51 -0000 Hi Ross, That=E2=80=99s a good question. =20 SRT is in wide use today as a production protocol, and is also open source (= to be clear as a top quick read of the wiki article may lead someone to thin= k that it isn=E2=80=99t.) and it has marketplace adopters that are interes= ted in seeing it evolve, and hopefully some of them would contribute or supp= ort any work we did. Despite the statement in the Wikipedia article that RIST is intended as a re= placement for SRT that doesn=E2=80=99t necessarily mean that the marketplace= is agreeing to drop SRT.=20 I don=E2=80=99t mean to be nasty to RIST, perhaps the market may go that wa= y someday, but I see a widely adopted protocol in SRT and a set of features= that it could use as improvements and work that=E2=80=99s relevant the tran= sport and media operations work at the ietf. Glenn=20 > On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:03 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote= : >=20 > =EF=BB=BFAccording to this Wikipedia page > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliable_Inte= rnet_Stream_Transport__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!4OdDk9MtuOz667GINmkargAg3Ak-6qYTcjj= qijoznxzVxOKk_IcTuUCljNTpxnjo$=20 > there=E2=80=99s another protocol - =E2=80=9CRIST=E2=80=9D - that=E2=80=99s= "intended as a more reliable successor to Secure Reliable Transport, and as= an open alternative to proprietary commercial options=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D >=20 > If that=E2=80=99s the case, shouldn=E2=80=99t the IETF be focused on docum= enting/standardizing *this* protocol, rather than SRT? > =20 >=20 > Ross Finlayson > Live Networks, Inc. > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.live555.com/__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!4Od= Dk9MtuOz667GINmkargAg3Ak-6qYTcjjqijoznxzVxOKk_IcTuUCljDLUkQCR$=20 >=20 > --=20 > Mops mailing list > Mops@ietf.org > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mops__;!= !PIZeeW5wscynRQ!4OdDk9MtuOz667GINmkargAg3Ak-6qYTcjjqijoznxzVxOKk_IcTuUCljHaW= 6KP4$=20 From nobody Wed Jul 29 03:04:28 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9933A0593 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 03:04:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gdDn8LPM76BN for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 03:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lj1-x230.google.com (mail-lj1-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60A7E3A058F for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 03:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x230.google.com with SMTP id h19so24371668ljg.13 for ; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 03:04:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bM3FLugI59dllbMGHnqE4dv7zuwCbgk0JFakO5+3wvE=; b=SpUhlQ8A6U5Q868kkW5yLVby5wTrLn6DmtBvOneb7BHDXg3EjjKRgYf73dfwLlc7OW 9Hb6bqvOY22dLKZm4HDsl3yb2r27wg/9es0HtkLGr7GakBs0TmY80pf1RHZLNDoYgDig hOgwtLOXf706QhqRtl7KGBO480SKjPULu0v3ZA7R5rBdUWecSu9Q5u92fSC0A1JbNcud ngYdC4Hv8qEHSx6hIV0Vpxwy2013DaiOqBPrA9u18CNj6Z0J5c7UAMo5fYuHrQ5tckX1 Bg/Licm+W8WVNON+i49HTQGgmIhplzH9acoPk/Ju7aOndUF/LRBzb9x9dEBMhSEak5HA i7kw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bM3FLugI59dllbMGHnqE4dv7zuwCbgk0JFakO5+3wvE=; b=VPNaCDSHvqte8T1Np/tku+vFE5Xe2o6HRd3j3yCqkpgtoSgyH3jE7/cebGyWX7OXY+ n5kcH01h/tXBv7OFESs4gcVuWFN6wV/LAO2VCQhVizqXHAkuzGgTsJ+Dr5m6d/PNaVAb wJWkJV4+9WLjh8zr16oCnfK2CTufGcmQciVvhE20CW6XK95usAV4PFCsFUenbyVJUWr3 L6q4dqRAfItx8if+tjfKa8LEeCZSqjiZQZGvE4COeaOSMObWoBDEBgUVLypW0hmkiMaO IoTiACo7b8Io4KSmQd6sfbnSHqS+5bIEiUwRV9M7ZOxMHN/9Fcx4BAmXTBolvGUfYd4h VzJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531MAQty0cZY1TZy+Y4G2cuCPag8yyJl6byGCp0CEOSVD4eykK7A 64cfosjb55f7v3C83f7IWV+xaTfYU4oUiuiKeoY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy/uz2/p6QDvm7p10rb/R2TO7IZ+ZVsA2jK13cb5b7mKo9mTHrav9E7P5h1T1tqyLtg6Xgm5eTDxXMMEAmnfj8= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:1213:: with SMTP id i19mr6285053lja.191.1596017059595; Wed, 29 Jul 2020 03:04:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <17635DFD-B536-4B22-8A5D-314BCBEFF19C@nbcuni.com> <7D14F27F-5914-46EC-9E27-9A61D3CEF820@haivision.com> In-Reply-To: From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 05:03:53 -0500 Message-ID: To: Maxim Sharabayko Cc: "mops@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e489af05ab91addf" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Mops] Low latency protocol comparision X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 10:04:25 -0000 --000000000000e489af05ab91addf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, Maxim, On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:06 AM Maxim Sharabayko < maxsharabayko@haivision.com> wrote: > Hi. > > > > First of all, thank you for the session! > > Special thanks to Alexandre for summarizing thoughts and TODOs towards the > comparison of protocols. > > Sadly we didn't have much time to discuss the comparison initiative. > > > > As a follow up to some questions raised on SRT please see my comments > below. > > > > 1. SRT versioning and maturity. > > > > SRT is the implementation driven protocol. > > We are working on the RFC. It will follow the informational track, and > will describe how things are done in the existing implementation. > > So it is safe to take the latest library version from GitHub for > comparison. > Could you confirm that this draft is ready for clarifying issues and pull requests from the rest of us? I'd definitely like to see it move forward toward publication (since as Ross said, it IS widely deployed). Best, Spencer --000000000000e489af05ab91addf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, Maxim,=C2=A0

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 1= 0:06 AM Maxim Sharabayko <maxsharabayko@haivision.com> wrote:

Hi.

=C2=A0

First of all, thank you for the session!

Special thanks to Alexandre for summarizing thoughts= and TODOs towards the comparison of protocols.

Sadly we didn't have much time to discuss the co= mparison initiative.

=C2=A0

As a follow up to some questions raised on SRT pleas= e see my comments below.

=C2=A0

1. SRT versioning and maturity.

=C2=A0

SRT is the implementation driven protocol.

We are working on the RFC. It will follow the inform= ational track, and will describe how things are done in the existing implem= entation.

So it is safe to take the latest library version fro= m GitHub for comparison.


Co= uld you confirm that this draft is ready for clarifying issues and pull req= uests from the rest of us?

I'd definitely like= to see it move forward toward publication (since as Ross said, it IS widel= y deployed).

Best,

Spence= r
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Subject: [Mops] Draft Minutes for IETF 108 MOPS WG session X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2020 13:06:04 -0000 --=_MailMate_B3282E62-8A1A-46D5-A441-3D3F8B293302_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Thanks to everyone who came out for the MOPS WG session yesterday. All the session slides are now available on the meeting materials page. With thanks to Glenn Deen for taking notes, please review the current=20 draft minutes, available here: =20 https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-108-mops# and you can make any=20 updates if you feel there are changes needed to better reflect the=20 meeting=E2=80=99s discussions. We=E2=80=99ll plan to publish the minutes in a week. Thanks, Leslie. --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_B3282E62-8A1A-46D5-A441-3D3F8B293302_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

Thanks to everyone who came out for the MOPS WG session y= esterday.

All the session slides are now available on the meeting m= aterials page.

With thanks to Glenn Deen for taking notes, please review= the current draft minutes, available here: https://codimd.ietf.= org/notes-ietf-108-mops# and you can make any updates if you feel the= re are changes needed to better reflect the meeting=E2=80=99s discussions= =2E

We=E2=80=99ll plan to publish the minutes in a week.

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Thanks,
Leslie.

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Leslie Daigle
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ldaigle@thinkingcat.com

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