From nobody Sun Nov 1 00:41:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE193A0B96 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 00:41:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mnot.net header.b=fbA3wuOA; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=LnZ7dvVt Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x2cfRTI0tUgX for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 00:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F3263A0B95 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 00:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9788D60C for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 02:32:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 01 Nov 2020 02:32:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mnot.net; h= content-type:mime-version:from:to:subject:message-id:date; s= fm1; bh=PNANzDXUftnFMvYGSIpkRUG9GmPja5Lfl0DdNMHCBdo=; b=fbA3wuOA WDEWTaE04DTDUvTA+etwbrWoj2rz3kb6juTt4JtUqjo2kUrDrmrmmGqbLga79wdz UK7k6Oj3zY+RUPBJHXGj+JLjSrUmAhA/bMIHeobMbdV7wMrktjPUM4HejFQ4FHfX VwaSr4wZ/3ePPDDHWCbdQTkPtZ/vi8v1JyI4adjW3IOcONzgHJL+62OiCmgeJeE5 Zfj+aWcp1hc0piEjJeCjQwTivOjRD0aZXuv88wRUHBsuq1+Sg/zlBUniG4j3vczo lqTDAdbHinVXSHs6gC82HHjeS6IzbkR7eTHMvaN1FZd26urCggF2ECHTERoEQ/lo YO3nw1LcYgBlrA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=PNANzDXUftnFMvYGSIpkRUG9GmPja 5Lfl0DdNMHCBdo=; b=LnZ7dvVtJR8330tWjbGYBQc9FEmsXsPNQl34i8iZ40mrO tXHdKnkaoDi+H4MQLKRw+f+v3dAO56PzRTH565DPGgzkPYni6hpmL5uCLYw+jvnv q8TlKGOTeoqBCCaaeiHjQrSU2krbA/OrKtKXc8uhs8lhQE57XnizA+jYv9f11T0G 0MfLGgCWwYyxF5UyKul+wemRMToK4QH3q1rSSR7EPbMuBU6TPuaPNqBwD5YbEFys jewhjQEoR/g2veR8pdXYGJ/PGjuwFli0oFDNW9i+9uQcB67BglGs2B7+7SN6s8x/ CVyaw0CA76NQi45jr1iOCXyfzsPCOUz+7LZ9ujbpw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrleekgddutdekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpegtggfhvffusegrtddtredttdejne cuhfhrohhmpeftvghpohhsihhtohhrhicutegtthhivhhithihucfuuhhmmhgrrhihuceu ohhtuceoughopghnohhtpghrvghplhihsehmnhhothdrnhgvtheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvg hrnhepkeefvdduteejvdefkeehieevuefgfefhteetveegffekffefteffvdelheduieet necuffhomhgrihhnpehgihhthhhusgdrtghomhenucfkphepuddtgedrvddutddrudehrd egjeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpeefnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegu ohgpnhhothgprhgvphhlhiesmhhnohhtrdhnvght X-ME-Proxy: Received: from fv-az60-664.internal.cloudapp.net (unknown [104.210.15.47]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 084943064610 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2020 02:32:59 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============1232314402297293522==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Repository Activity Summary Bot To: mops@ietf.org Message-Id: <20201101073259.084943064610@mailuser.nyi.internal> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 02:32:59 -0500 (EST) Archived-At: Subject: [Mops] Weekly github digest (MOPS Activity Summary) X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2020 07:41:28 -0000 --===============1232314402297293522== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Events without label "editorial" Issues ------ * ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons (+3/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC10) 3 issues created: - Adaptive bitrate at low-latency (by kixelated) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues= /32=20 - Add section on ads? (by GrumpyOldTroll) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues= /31=20 - Normalize the whitespace/line wrap strategy (by GrumpyOldTroll) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues= /29=20 8 issues received 10 new comments: - #32 Adaptive bitrate at low-latency (1 by agouaillard) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues= /32=20 - #31 Add section on ads? (1 by acbegen) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues= /31=20 - #29 Normalize the whitespace/line wrap strategy (3 by GrumpyOldTroll, e= nglishm-llnw) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues= /29=20 - #26 historical charts of usage patterns with references (1 by acbegen) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues= /26=20 - #22 Discussion on contention and/or fairness in the network (1 by acbeg= en) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues= /22=20 - #13 Applicability of pre-placement and caching (1 by SpencerDawkins) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues= /13=20 - #12 Articulate the sources of constraints on bandwidth at different poi= nts of the network (1 by acbegen) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues= /12=20 - #4 E2E encryption (1 by agouaillard) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues= /4=20 Pull requests ------------- * ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons (+3/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC3) 3 pull requests submitted: - Update draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons.md section on caching and cache= preloading. (by SpencerDawkins) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/pull/3= 0=20 - updated history of presentations (by GrumpyOldTroll) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/pull/2= 8=20 - Proposed fix for issue #3 (latency section) (by GrumpyOldTroll) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/pull/2= 7=20 3 pull requests received 3 new comments: - #30 Update draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons.md section on caching and c= ache preloading. (1 by GrumpyOldTroll) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/pull/3= 0=20 - #28 updated history of presentations (1 by GrumpyOldTroll) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/pull/2= 8=20 - #27 Proposed fix for issue #3 (latency section) (1 by acbegen) https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/pull/2= 7=20 1 pull requests merged: - updated history of presentations https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/pull/2= 8=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons --===============1232314402297293522== Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Weekly github digest (MOPS Activity Summary)

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ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons (+3/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC3)

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Re: MOPS Virtual Interim -- Minutes X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2020 20:01:41 -0000 --=_MailMate_AD7A5D7F-6F87-46CB-AE20-61BB7A842E16_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi again, I=E2=80=99ve now had a report of someone who thought they=E2=80=99d been = added to=20 the blue sheet section, but that disappeared. If you attended the MOPS virtual interim, please check the minutes draft=20 (link in original message below) and make sure you are there/add=20 yourself if necessary. Thanks, Leslie. On 30 Oct 2020, at 16:42, Leslie Daigle wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks to everyone who participated in today=E2=80=99s MOPS virtual int= erim=20 > meeting =E2=80=94 good turnout, good discussion, and good progress on t= he=20 > opscon document. > > For those of you who were present, could you take a quick look at the=20 > codimd minutes and review for accuracy? We=E2=80=99ll plan to make the= se=20 > official mid-next week (say, Wednesday, by end of day, in whatever=20 > timezone). > > https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-interim-2020-mops-02-mops > > Thanks, > Leslie. > > --=20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Leslie Daigle > Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises > ldaigle@thinkingcat.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > --=20 > Mops mailing list > Mops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mops --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_AD7A5D7F-6F87-46CB-AE20-61BB7A842E16_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi again,

I=E2=80=99ve now had a report of someone who thought they= =E2=80=99d been added to the blue sheet section, but that disappeared.

If you attended the MOPS virtual interim, please check th= e minutes draft (link in original message below) and make sure you are th= ere/add yourself if necessary.

Thanks,
Leslie.

On 30 Oct 2020, at 16:42, Leslie Daigle wrote:

Hi,

Thanks to everyone who participated in today=E2=80=99s MO= PS virtual interim meeting =E2=80=94 good turnout, good discussion, and g= ood progress on the opscon document.

For those of you who were present, could you take a quick= look at the codimd minutes and review for accuracy? We=E2=80=99ll plan = to make these official mid-next week (say, Wednesday, by end of day, in w= hatever timezone).

https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-i= nterim-2020-mops-02-mops

Thanks,
Leslie.

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--=_MailMate_AD7A5D7F-6F87-46CB-AE20-61BB7A842E16_=-- From nobody Mon Nov 2 12:30:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mops@ietf.org Delivered-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18F73A0DDB; Mon, 2 Nov 2020 12:30:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: mops@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.21.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: mops@ietf.org Message-ID: <160434902262.23568.6868201368243008124@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2020 12:30:22 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Mops] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-03.txt X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2020 20:30:23 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Media OPerationS WG of the IETF. Title : Operational Considerations for Streaming Media Authors : Jake Holland Ali Begen Spencer Dawkins Filename : draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-03.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2020-11-02 Abstract: This document provides an overview of operational networking issues that pertain to quality of experience in delivery of video and other high-bitrate media over the internet. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/ There is also an HTML version available at: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-03.html A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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--===============5354230076071555322==-- From nobody Mon Nov 9 15:24:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E7E3A0FCC for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:24:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=thinkingcat.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G9d4cER0ChHN for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from bee.birch.relay.mailchannels.net (bee.birch.relay.mailchannels.net [23.83.209.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EA553A0FC9 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:24:22 -0800 (PST) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|ldaigle@thinkingcat.com Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6096654163B; Mon, 9 Nov 2020 23:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a50.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-9-134.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.9.134]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E9496541667; Mon, 9 Nov 2020 23:24:21 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|ldaigle@thinkingcat.com Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a50.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.10); Mon, 09 Nov 2020 23:24:22 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|ldaigle@thinkingcat.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Keen-Chemical: 7c67635e4a27dc87_1604964262192_982309404 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1604964262192:1390278342 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1604964262192 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a50.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a50.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD42A7E66B; Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:24:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=thinkingcat.com; h=from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=thinkingcat.com; bh=kWuFKjo8PpemY0 3KfO+bCHgrrCA=; b=Je/ujnZAbvEWNlI9AsqpvbNB50Czd0FecYfKOPzOCz42Gs O2zTs9/b0eNbTXJ3DZfWjH848RGTBffRzQSerJtkyEHoXivDj84HXf+ypWNetTH3 HDKG8HX8alXjAqeEA5UDSmfq+UjikJW9czFo0ipf086csm5yIEDlIUdFjR4p8= Received: from [169.254.1.54] (vtelinet-216-66-102-83.vermontel.net [216.66.102.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ldaigle@thinkingcat.com) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a50.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E0AB37E390; Mon, 9 Nov 2020 15:24:19 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a50 From: "Leslie Daigle" To: "Holland, Jake" Cc: mops@ietf.org, "Kyle Rose" Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 18:23:53 -0500 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13.2r5673) Message-ID: <8E668A40-6E21-4F59-9F3D-D4E52C3CD05F@thinkingcat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_MailMate_9332E5FF-4661-4501-B93D-16E7A171693C_=" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Mops] Revised milestone proposal for last call of MOPS ops-cons doc? X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 23:24:24 -0000 --=_MailMate_9332E5FF-4661-4501-B93D-16E7A171693C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jake, Following up the discussion at the MOPS virtual interim meeting =E2=80=94= have=20 you conferred with your co-authors and determined a realistic=20 alternative proposed milestone date for: Nov 2020 Last-call document on operational considerations for low=20 latency streaming video applications Thanks, Leslie. --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_9332E5FF-4661-4501-B93D-16E7A171693C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=_MailMate_9332E5FF-4661-4501-B93D-16E7A171693C_=-- From nobody Tue Nov 10 07:14:14 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mops@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715743A0D4F for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 07:14:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=akamai.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QrUjcaqZ2BaE for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 07:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx0b-00190b01.pphosted.com (mx0b-00190b01.pphosted.com [IPv6:2620:100:9005:57f::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B817C3A100D for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 07:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0050102.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0050102.ppops.net-00190b01. 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markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Here is the updated agenda for the MOPS meeting this week. 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Thanks, in particular, to Mike English, who was our minutes taker! Particularly for those who were present =E2=80=94 please review these min= utes=20 and make any appropriate fixes/ask any requisite questions: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-109-mops# I have not conferred with my co-chair (who is free to jump in with his=20 own opinion!), but my sense is that we=E2=80=99ll aim to publish them as = final=20 on Monday, November 30 (i.e., immediately following the US Thanksgiving=20 holiday). Best, Leslie. --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_EE4D2D78-D0E2-4F72-8A86-BBE8ED37BDBE_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

Thanks to everyone who participated =E2=80=94 we had a go= od MOPS WG session at virtual IETF 109, with about 40 attendees consisten= tly through the meeting.

Thanks, in particular, to Mike English, who was our minut= es taker!

Particularly for those who were present =E2=80=94 please = review these minutes and make any appropriate fixes/ask any requisite que= stions:

https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-109-mops#<= /p>

I have not conferred with my co-chair (who is free to jum= p in with his own opinion!), but my sense is that we=E2=80=99ll aim to pu= blish them as final on Monday, November 30 (i.e., immediately following t= he US Thanksgiving holiday).

Best,
Leslie.

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Leslie Daigle
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ldaigle@thinkingcat.com

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(Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 065567EF68; Fri, 20 Nov 2020 15:42:01 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a66 From: "Leslie Daigle" To: mops@ietf.org Cc: "Kyle Rose" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 18:41:56 -0500 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13.2r5673) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_MailMate_CF48E6F2-3225-44B8-B9C4-846082FB7BAF_=" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Mops] MOPS at 109 virtual -- takeaways X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 23:42:08 -0000 --=_MailMate_CF48E6F2-3225-44B8-B9C4-846082FB7BAF_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, again, to everyone who participated in the MOPS @ IETF 109=20 Virtual meeting the other day. As noted, there was good discussion and onward interest in the material=20 of mops. Key items for action are on the milestone updates (including=20 the documents referenced), and the update of the augmented reality draft=20 for consideration as a WG item. 1/ Continue the milestone update discussion on list. I=E2=80=99ll send a separate mail on a separate thread to follow up with=20 specifics. 2/ draft-krishna-mops-ar-use-case=20 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-krishna-mops-ar-use-case/) Authors need to update it, and then we=E2=80=99ll have a discussion of wh= ether=20 the WG will adopt it. Leslie. --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_CF48E6F2-3225-44B8-B9C4-846082FB7BAF_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks, again, to everyone who participated in the MOPS @= IETF 109 Virtual meeting the other day.

As noted, there was good discussion and onward interest i= n the material of mops. Key items for action are on the milestone update= s (including the documents referenced), and the update of the augmented r= eality draft for consideration as a WG item.

1/ Continue the milestone update discussion on list.

I=E2=80=99ll send a separate mail on a separate thread to= follow up with specifics.

2/ draft-krishna-mops-ar-use-case (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-krishna-mops-ar-use-case/)

Authors need to update it, and then we=E2=80=99ll have a = discussion of whether the WG will adopt it.

Leslie.

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X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 23:44:05 -0000 --=_MailMate_E25F6AD8-CDE5-4320-A06E-E3D0E3353505_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed; markup=markdown Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Following up the discussion of milestones topic =E2=80=94 here is the=20 beginning of a proposal, from my notes of the meeting. While those of us on the WG call agreed that most of them =E2=80=9Cseem a= bout=20 right=E2=80=9D, we still need volunteers for key documents =E2=80=94 plea= se see in=20 line, and share thoughts. OpsCons doc: Move to June 2021 =E2=80=94 was Nov 2020 Last-call document on operatio= nal=20 considerations for low latency streaming video applications DONE: Jul 2020 Revised draft operational considerations for low latency=20 streaming video applications DONE: Feb 2020 Initial draft operational considerations for low latency=20 streaming video applications Refer to documents needing volunteers: Nov 2020 Last-call document on edge network considerations for=20 streaming media Jul 2020 Revised draft of edge network operational considerations for=20 streaming media Jul 2020 Last-call document on Society of Motion Picture and Television=20 Engineers (SMPTE) protocol reliance on IETF protocols (including=20 explicit outreach to SMPTE) Jul 2020 Last-call document on Streaming Video Alliance (SVA) reliance=20 on IETF protocols (including explicit outreach to SVA) Mar 2020 Draft documenting Society of Motion Picture and Television=20 Engineers (SMPTE) protocol reliance on IETF protocols Mar 2020 Draft documenting Streaming Video Alliance (SVA) reliance on=20 IETF protocols I believe Glenn Deen is going to come back with a proposal for who might=20 author the SVA document. I believe Shuai Zhao expressed support for the edge network operational=20 considerations for streaming media document at the MOPS WG meeting =E2=80= =94=20 not sure he volunteered? :^) For the SMPTE document =E2=80=94 Kyle & I suggest pushing that off to _st= art_=20 in May of next year, and we can revisit then whether we drop it=20 altogether. It still seems like an important document to have, but=20 because 2020 is 2020, we aren=E2=80=99t getting the right participation t= o get=20 it done. Unchanged: Nov 2021 IESG to decide whether continue, re-charter or close MOPS WG Nov 2020 Develop work items specific to media acquisition and delivery Leslie. --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- --=_MailMate_E25F6AD8-CDE5-4320-A06E-E3D0E3353505_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Following up the discussion of milestones topic =E2=80=94= here is the beginning of a proposal, from my notes of the meeting.

While those of us on the WG call agreed that most of them= =E2=80=9Cseem about right=E2=80=9D, we still need volunteers for key doc= uments =E2=80=94 please see in line, and share thoughts.

OpsCons doc:

Move to June 2021 =E2=80=94 was Nov 2020 Last-call d= ocument on operational considerations for low latency streaming video app= lications
DONE: Jul 2020 Revised draft operational considerations for low laten= cy streaming video applications
DONE: Feb 2020 Initial draft operational considerations for low laten= cy streaming video applications

Refer to documents needing volunteers:

Nov 2020 Last-call document on edge network considera= tions for streaming media
Jul 2020 Revised draft of edge network operational considerations for= streaming media
Jul 2020 Last-call document on Society of Motion Picture and Televisi= on Engineers (SMPTE) protocol reliance on IETF protocols (including expli= cit outreach to SMPTE)
Jul 2020 Last-call document on Streaming Video Alliance (SVA) relianc= e on IETF protocols (including explicit outreach to SVA)
Mar 2020 Draft documenting Society of Motion Picture and Television E= ngineers (SMPTE) protocol reliance on IETF protocols
Mar 2020 Draft documenting Streaming Video Alliance (SVA) reliance on= IETF protocols

I believe Glenn Deen is going to come back with a proposa= l for who might author the SVA document.
I believe Shuai Zhao expressed support for the edge network operational c= onsiderations for streaming media document at the MOPS WG meeting =E2=80=94= not sure he volunteered? :^)

For the SMPTE document =E2=80=94 Kyle & I suggest pus= hing that off to start in May of next year, and we can revisit t= hen whether we drop it altogether. It still seems like an important docu= ment to have, but because 2020 is 2020, we aren=E2=80=99t getting the rig= ht participation to get it done.

Unchanged:
Nov 2021 IESG to decide whether continue, re-charter or close MOPS WG=
Nov 2020 Develop work items specific to media acquisition and deliver= y

Leslie.

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ldaigle@thinkingcat.com

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