From rcallon@juniper.net Fri Jun 1 07:36:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDEBE11E8106 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:36:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.054 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.054 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.544, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TBimCAWfugL2 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og113.obsmtp.com (exprod7og113.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.179]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EF511E80B0 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob113.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT8jTcK8VX9EANfkmZQsiHSreauWL3/MJ@postini.com; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:36:35 PDT Received: from P-CLDFE02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.60) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:36:27 -0700 Received: from p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.25) by p-cldfe02-hq.jnpr.net (172.24.192.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:36:23 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::c126:c633:d2dc:8090%11]) with mapi; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:36:00 -0400 From: Ross Callon To: "mnapierala@att.com" , "Eric (erosen) Rosen" , "ice@cisco.com" , "'mpls@ietf.org'" Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:35:58 -0400 Thread-Topic: IPR on draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp Thread-Index: Ac1AA9vMuasKD//8Q/GvmerkJdr1Ew== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C70FE8EEDCEMBX01WFjnprn_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [mpls] IPR on draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:36:40 -0000 --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C70FE8EEDCEMBX01WFjnprn_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Working Group and authors; draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp is nearly ready to be called for potential WG adoption. Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp= ? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Ross (as MPLS WG co-chair) --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C70FE8EEDCEMBX01WFjnprn_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Working Group and authors;
 
draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp is nearly ready to be called for
potential WG adoption.
 
Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is = IPR
on the document that needs to be disclosed.
 
Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-napierala-mpls-targeted= -mldp?
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules <= /div>
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
 
If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond t= o
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant =
IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response=
has been received from each author and contributor.
 
If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author o= r
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of a= ny
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
 
Thanks, Ross
(as MPLS WG co-chair)
 
 
 --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C70FE8EEDCEMBX01WFjnprn_-- From rcallon@juniper.net Fri Jun 1 07:41:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48CA11E8106 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:41:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.017 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.017 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.446, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HmImIrBZmKbW for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og109.obsmtp.com (exprod7og109.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.171]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0CD11E80B4 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob109.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT8jUgKD93B7MkktfqtNMu9rNy5t2yKFg@postini.com; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:41:13 PDT Received: from P-CLDFE02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.60) by P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:39:17 -0700 Received: from p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.24) by p-cldfe02-hq.jnpr.net (172.24.192.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:39:15 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::d0d1:653d:5b91:a123%11]) with mapi; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:38:21 -0400 From: Ross Callon To: "aldrin.ietf@gmail.com" , Thomas Nadeau , "venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com" , Kannan KV Sampath , "ppan@infinera.com" , "Sami Boutros (sboutros)" , "'mpls@ietf.org'" Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:38:19 -0400 Thread-Topic: IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib Thread-Index: Ac1ABC/kDoU0JSZHR2SiOMlR5x/lBQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C70FE8EEE3EMBX01WFjnprn_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [mpls] IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:41:14 -0000 --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C70FE8EEE3EMBX01WFjnprn_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Working Group and authors; draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib is nearly ready to be called for potential WG adoption. Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Ross (as MPLS WG co-chair) --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C70FE8EEE3EMBX01WFjnprn_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Working Group and authors;
 
draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib is nearly ready to be called for
potential WG adoption.
 
Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is = IPR
on the document that needs to be disclosed.
 
Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib= ?
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules <= /div>
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
 
If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond t= o
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant =
IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response=
has been received from each author and contributor.
 
If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author o= r
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of a= ny
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
 
Thanks, Ross
(as MPLS WG co-chair)
 
 
 --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C70FE8EEE3EMBX01WFjnprn_-- From tnadeau@juniper.net Fri Jun 1 07:45:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6966F11E80E0 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:45:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08xRay79Ji6W for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og125.obsmtp.com (exprod7og125.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D017111E80F3 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob125.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT8jViDFGNC3QdzJyVDhJGztn+pWmnljp@postini.com; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:45:36 PDT Received: from p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.25) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:44:26 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::c126:c633:d2dc:8090%11]) with mapi; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:44:25 -0400 From: Thomas Nadeau To: Ross Callon , "aldrin.ietf@gmail.com" , "venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com" , Kannan KV Sampath , "ppan@infinera.com" , "Sami Boutros (sboutros)" , "'mpls@ietf.org'" Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:44:23 -0400 Thread-Topic: IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib Thread-Index: Ac1ABQnIEuJvfvIXRtO6m8MhVxsIog== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.0.120402 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:45:43 -0000 I have not claimed any IPR on this draft, nor do I know of any. --Tom From: Ross Callon > To: "aldrin.ietf@gmail.com" >, Thomas Nadeau >, "venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com" >, Kannan KV Sampath >, "ppan@infinera.com" >, "Sami Boutros (sboutros)" >, "'mpls@ietf.org'" > Subject: IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib Working Group and authors; draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib is nearly ready to be called for potential WG adoption. Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Ross (as MPLS WG co-chair) From ice@cisco.com Fri Jun 1 10:09:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E5B11E811C for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:09:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0G8lZ7a+6xc6 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC7211E808A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:09:14 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from stew-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q51H9Dbq005221 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:09:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ams-iwijnand-8712.cisco.com (ams-iwijnand-8712.cisco.com [10.55.191.147]) by stew-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q51H9AKS002984; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:09:10 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: IJsbrand Wijnands In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:09:10 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Ross Callon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Cc: "'mpls@ietf.org'" , "mnapierala@att.com" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR on draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:09:15 -0000 Hi Ross, To my knowledge, there is no IPR. Thx, Ice. On 01 Jun 2012, at 16:35, Ross Callon wrote: > Working Group and authors; >=20 > draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp is nearly ready to be called for > potential WG adoption. >=20 > Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is = IPR > on the document that needs to be disclosed. >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to = draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp? > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond = to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. >=20 > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author = or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of = any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >=20 > Thanks, Ross > (as MPLS WG co-chair) >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From erosen@cisco.com Fri Jun 1 10:24:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F8421F8810 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:24:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AaSQhl816iGP for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCDF11E80B4 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:24:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=erosen@cisco.com; l=101; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1338571489; x=1339781089; h=to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:reply-to:date:message-id:from; bh=D0UcB4lCtZ1hvaDgGC1xio1vUqNpay9HjbVYo7rjCc4=; b=M7Bmzc6IUfXtPfo0iAOBbZ8QmSUae5UDh7xS6TyxlwfCLdFE0J8h8Y9m maptdyMTzLF33V0wpw4IA6jPpYFaIUFlRIUTs44MXWnvwaB2ZVN/HotyT zLnEKyWD+CqMBI89APZaTWaWISHj4caCgr3Tg6l0b0rrtV7LiLAOng05f c=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,698,1330905600"; d="scan'208";a="88738689" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Jun 2012 17:24:48 +0000 Received: from erosen-linux.cisco.com (erosen-linux.cisco.com [161.44.70.34]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51HOlEf020791 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:24:48 GMT Received: from erosen-linux (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by erosen-linux.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q51HOllq025603; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:24:47 -0400 To: Ross Callon In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:35:58 -0400. Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:24:47 -0400 Message-ID: <25602.1338571487@erosen-linux> From: Eric Rosen Cc: "ice@cisco.com" , "mnapierala@att.com" , "'mpls@ietf.org'" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR on draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: erosen@cisco.com List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:24:52 -0000 Ross> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-napierala-mpls- Ross> targeted-mldp? No. From venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com Fri Jun 1 10:43:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D331A21F8A5B for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.464 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mo8tfcWQylBY for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC2C21F8A5A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vcqp1 with SMTP id p1so1617755vcq.31 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:43:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PHS1xPA3Irof+DGzZM7z2Ikb1OeYGQ4Y0rpCown6nK0=; b=e//zND7rK4tURNOMwXmIY45TzhPLTNrBwoqnzIIONPfOHe5E74AHTNVKZxxCcvUKJK kgckepjG/hrRpI6yI8f/tzg/Lb6sLKzmTxxZjn9+69anYwXW0Dao6Ff6PlZihlk7oy7Z eU4ojJNAyQuZjCJiTD5nQnIcnTNEO0yPkwpcmGvc7Upm61XnrESIIhnZf/iGwTo2KxZb TnJEnGtlWjxZx5qlQruqzm+oalUfmngcqvQdLC9XZVA0md2pPoS3VVRWeXnajHUgEX89 vobjFgz/JJFyQscTT7KTf33pxSAHwPQR5KCmyJ4mf4f0thwA5K/J++buPELrqoRJ7mln fhJQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.215.136 with SMTP id he8mr3450227vcb.13.1338572585714; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.193.6 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:43:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:43:05 -0700 Message-ID: From: Venkatesan Mahalingam To: Thomas Nadeau , Ross Callon , "aldrin.ietf@gmail.com" , Kannan KV Sampath , "ppan@infinera.com" , "Sami Boutros (sboutros)" , "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:43:07 -0000 I'm not aware of any IPR on this draft. Thanks, Venkat. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Thomas Nadeau wrote: > > I have not claimed any IPR on this draft, nor do I know of any. > > --Tom > > > From: Ross Callon > > To: "aldrin.ietf@gmail.com" >, Thomas Nadeau >, "venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com" >, Kannan KV Sampath >, "ppan@infinera.com" >, "Sami Boutros (sboutros)" >, "'mpls@ietf.org'" > > Subject: IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib > > Working Group and authors; > > draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib is nearly ready to be called for > potential WG adoption. > > Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is IPR > on the document that needs to be disclosed. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib? > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thanks, Ross > (as MPLS WG co-chair) > > From mn1921@att.com Fri Jun 1 12:04:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 525F111E80BD for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:04:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K5jdInQMDqMv for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com [209.65.160.94]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9188C11E8096 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.128.153] (EHLO nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com) by nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.11.0-10) with ESMTP id b4219cf4.2aaad2616940.599498.00-553.1671652.nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:04:43 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 4fc9124b47e633ec-2f2ba3352e7e84bc55896e5f3d95834c5da3c882 Received: from unknown [144.160.128.153] (EHLO flpi408.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com) by nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.11.0-10) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 14219cf4.0.599458.00-365.1671454.nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:04:34 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 4fc9124212ad04f9-d46747eb5d6b96b0b7325515e98d8fed185e48f2 Received: from enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by flpi408.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51J4WIs024841; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:04:33 -0700 Received: from fflint03.pst.cso.att.com (fflint03.pst.cso.att.com [150.234.39.63]) by flpi408.enaf.ffdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51J4PGI024615 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:04:28 -0700 Received: from MISOUT7MSGHUB9A.ITServices.sbc.com (misout7msghub9a.itservices.sbc.com [144.151.223.62]) by fflint03.pst.cso.att.com (RSA Interceptor); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:04:23 -0700 Received: from MISOUT7MSGUSR9I.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.56]) by MISOUT7MSGHUB9A.ITServices.sbc.com ([144.151.223.62]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.002; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:04:22 -0400 From: "NAPIERALA, MARIA H" To: "rcallon@juniper.net" Thread-Topic: IPR on draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp Thread-Index: Ac1AA9vMuasKD//8Q/GvmerkJdr1EwAJP50A Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 19:04:22 +0000 Message-ID: <1D70D757A2C9D54D83B4CBD7625FA80EB2BE15@MISOUT7MSGUSR9I.ITServices.sbc.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.91.76.245] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1D70D757A2C9D54D83B4CBD7625FA80EB2BE15MISOUT7MSGUSR9IIT_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.128.153] X-AnalysisOut: [v=1.0 c=1 a=yKoewWPzswEA:10 a=DKIkTDW-J1UA:10 a=ofMgfj31e3] X-AnalysisOut: [cA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=xwOvzTHDVLE4u4nGvK72ag==:17 a=Rd] X-AnalysisOut: [OC3neHhrZshkAW0H0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=] X-AnalysisOut: [SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=bq0tidLma3eXyX9eURQA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 ] X-AnalysisOut: [a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10] Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , IJsbrand Wijnands Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR on draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:04:44 -0000 --_000_1D70D757A2C9D54D83B4CBD7625FA80EB2BE15MISOUT7MSGUSR9IIT_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ross, > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-ml= dp? No. Maria --_000_1D70D757A2C9D54D83B4CBD7625FA80EB2BE15MISOUT7MSGUSR9IIT_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ross,

 

> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-napierala-mpls-target= ed-mldp?

 

 No.

 

Maria

--_000_1D70D757A2C9D54D83B4CBD7625FA80EB2BE15MISOUT7MSGUSR9IIT_-- From ping@pingpan.org Fri Jun 1 13:38:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E711A11E8097 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:38:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.841 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.841 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8BjRyffu5UgD for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og120.obsmtp.com (exprod7og120.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.18]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0132C11E808A for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx0-f175.google.com ([209.85.213.175]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob120.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT8koUKsOp2vbytP6ZMBM8lyznW9x5bYZ@postini.com; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:38:41 PDT Received: by mail-yx0-f175.google.com with SMTP id l13so2221127yen.20 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:38:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=DvybUn+sZTCZDqrF4ucBOvcYJ20DsjWCgVr2Fn45HYg=; b=L4ebytnsu/lDDf8bSSS+1suS28HChWvcXirwQ+2j3I0hU67e1RzH9jGSGvGAUY0Hh5 lYV9WPRBWLtCw4UMiB9wbDZ4vRut5GPsvh3eaqAIJrehOxFV5SgMvZJdl6WSG9LLBAOF +AW8ujch99rm/6Yy4OOY8rJjnc1g6HM0ax+hBfcsbFs7D2atRhY1+wz8Vj6kOfm2AMe/ hfuQ9pzr5pWF3ybQFzOTLXYaNc8csZBR3qMQrVs+6kbMVpCr6hqnTIvMqEQ92dcbozh7 6je9RB/Go9s+ZOrkmt1lqJAgIH0LntjCg18QZ/TBzirwAjMpckFQASBwRYUx1px3Vdwl dZhQ== Received: by 10.60.10.99 with SMTP id h3mr3959811oeb.72.1338583120202; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:38:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.70.132 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:37:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Ping Pan Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:37:59 +0900 Message-ID: To: Ross Callon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1fbfa61cd0504c16f2ba2 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnWlnYgPjirYj2QYz+k+PYJCR5Je/ERYdzR9g8WJYF1Y0EyJ6ppMEFftEe/M2aQFNhu0sMK Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "ppan@infinera.com" , "Sami Boutros \(sboutros\)" , Thomas Nadeau , "venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 20:38:44 -0000 --e89a8fb1fbfa61cd0504c16f2ba2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 None that I am aware of. Thanks! Ping On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Ross Callon wrote: > Working Group and authors; > > draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib is nearly ready to be called for > potential WG adoption. > > Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is IPR > on the document that needs to be disclosed. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib? > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thanks, Ross > (as MPLS WG co-chair) > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > --e89a8fb1fbfa61cd0504c16f2ba2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable None that I am aware of. Thanks! Ping

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--e89a8fb1fbfa61cd0504c16f2ba2-- From sboutros@cisco.com Fri Jun 1 14:39:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153E411E80F7 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:39:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7YcOUBMyacIT for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564BF11E8097 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:39:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=sboutros@cisco.com; l=4150; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1338586784; x=1339796384; h=subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id: references:to; bh=sYlmCf24bik0vwXjA1nUzMGTNv6QzGH6RT7/hh6tYs0=; b=Ygc04yYkO43+KxuDWdLrCsB8D8aYMY/qNUKOyd08pBHxMiALAYUAC7n2 SCoWaGOqQ57AlVg0IuLOQj+Ax5oR79A/Uy89aBCRJ481T4c8WLepUnZe+ qZgJQe2Aqo+m7fHLboF7M0LwYKj3uWxCFCAiONuwQf8wHGYcZSgXUWRHu g=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EALk1yU+tJV2Z/2dsb2JhbABFtECBB4IYAQEBAwEBAQEPAQpRBgUFCwsEFC4nMAYTIodkBQuYIJ9cBIsPhRVgA4hAjFmOD4FmgwCBPw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,700,1330905600"; d="scan'208,217";a="88805034" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Jun 2012 21:39:44 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-301.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-301.cisco.com [72.163.63.8]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q51Ldhn3013194; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 21:39:43 GMT Received: from xfe-rcd-101.cisco.com ([72.163.62.136]) by xbh-rcd-301.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:39:43 -0500 Received: from rtp-vpn2-1019.cisco.com ([10.82.243.251]) by xfe-rcd-101.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:39:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4851F5C5-11E0-4A10-829D-2736564755C5" From: Sami Boutros In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:39:40 -0700 Message-Id: References: To: Ping Pan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jun 2012 21:39:43.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[0EA20970:01CD403F] Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , Thomas Nadeau , "ppan@infinera.com" , "venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com" , Ross Callon Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 21:39:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_4851F5C5-11E0-4A10-829D-2736564755C5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii same here. Sami On Jun 1, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Ping Pan wrote: > None that I am aware of. Thanks! Ping > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Ross Callon wrote: > Working Group and authors; > > draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib is nearly ready to be called for > potential WG adoption. > > Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is IPR > on the document that needs to be disclosed. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib? > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thanks, Ross > (as MPLS WG co-chair) > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > --Apple-Mail=_4851F5C5-11E0-4A10-829D-2736564755C5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii same here.

Sami
On Jun 1, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Ping Pan wrote:

None that I am aware of. Thanks! Ping

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Ross Callon <rcallon@juniper.net> wrote:
Working Group and authors;
 
draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib is nearly ready to be called for
potential WG adoption.
 
Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is IPR
on the document that needs to be disclosed.
 
Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib?
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
 
If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response
has been received from each author and contributor.
 
If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
 
Thanks, Ross
(as MPLS WG co-chair)
 
 

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--Apple-Mail=_4851F5C5-11E0-4A10-829D-2736564755C5-- From Kannan.Sampath@aricent.com Fri Jun 1 16:55:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF0E121F873D for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:55:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.464 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TmJRYa-Zr35r for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (jaguar.aricent.com [180.151.2.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A70721F86C6 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jaguar.aricent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss71 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3052236B2C; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:22:45 +0530 (IST) Received: from GUREXHT01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM (gurexht01.asian.ad.aricent.com [10.203.171.136]) by jaguar.aricent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A41B36B29; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:22:45 +0530 (IST) Received: from GUREXMB02.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM ([10.203.171.134]) by GUREXHT01.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM ([10.203.171.136]) with mapi; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:25:14 +0530 From: Kannan KV Sampath To: "'venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com'" , "'tnadeau@juniper.net'" , "'rcallon@juniper.net'" , "'aldrin.ietf@gmail.com'" , "'ppan@infinera.com'" , "'sboutros@cisco.com'" , "'mpls@ietf.org'" Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:25:14 +0530 Thread-Topic: IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib Thread-Index: Ac1AHfynGfVlnYkFTpGt8w/4BY5P+wAM/+mZ Message-ID: <04EDFA4923CA7849A51A812953FF873602CEEBF07E@GUREXMB02.ASIAN.AD.ARICENT.COM> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:55:31 -0000 I have also not claimed any IPR on this draft, nor do I know of any. ----- Original Message ----- From: Venkatesan Mahalingam [mailto:venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 11:13 PM To: Thomas Nadeau ; Ross Callon ;= aldrin.ietf@gmail.com ; Kannan KV Sampath; ppan@inf= inera.com ; Sami Boutros (sboutros) = ; mpls@ietf.org Subject: Re: IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib I'm not aware of any IPR on this draft. Thanks, Venkat. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Thomas Nadeau wrote: > > I have not claimed any IPR on this draft, nor do I know of any. > > --Tom > > > From: Ross Callon > > To: "aldrin.ietf@gmail.com" >, Thomas Nadeau >, "venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com" >, Kannan KV Sampath >, "ppan@infinera.com" >, "Sami Boutros (sboutros)" >, "'mpls@ietf.org'" > > Subject: IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib > > Working Group and authors; > > draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib is nearly ready to be called for > potential WG adoption. > > Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is IPR > on the document that needs to be disclosed. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib? > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thanks, Ross > (as MPLS WG co-chair) > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D Please refer to http://www.aricent.com/legal/email_disclaimer.html for important disclosures regarding this electronic communication. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D From aldrin.ietf@gmail.com Fri Jun 1 17:53:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E722221F8714 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:53:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cBRx0nEWK92a for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pz0-f44.google.com (mail-pz0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682CA21F86AB for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dacx6 with SMTP id x6so3429101dac.31 for ; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:53:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=hckScsguKdSHUcXUFqCpFlL2dbBvs8NHPvMoOg6iQFM=; b=yIXs88qflKFRE6tNYUrDqT8I6K8b+j9kdxMgoh4yxhzqAxUrujfKOyjp6dmpR4hgVC h5/PfKLSMSKuj7pawW+zXKMDYMLuex/OJz9YOQacPHgH/MN0ky3kNpO+e7Tgoapj7I78 FSHGlmkrqFnYzSNuwUZhNvZWMPp6zAlwLKbE5SwLCZPcKzMzvDRIJN69sbcJYTNhogpf BhaDvKNKTlyOb+s5wh8CloTw9CaaG0YoqIk9R/6A9XgcBQIXdgKHIUGIYjyLFHNWPGDZ o1h2jqoyOyD52ZsVji/zYuh3rcbe1rVt+B7FPLa+Q6WD3eHPIvIyI0NOSquuNFc316DU 1QVw== Received: by 10.68.222.133 with SMTP id qm5mr4335963pbc.113.1338598398175; Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.3.168] (124x35x219x9.ap124.ftth.ucom.ne.jp. [124.35.219.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ms1sm4438397pbb.63.2012.06.01.17.53.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 01 Jun 2012 17:53:17 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-E4445924-F0D4-4C56-8529-81C3815BA948 Message-Id: <26B5F524-5B05-4DA8-93D4-99CBFF8CC064@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Sam Aldrin Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:53:10 +0900 To: Ross Callon Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "ppan@infinera.com" , "SamiBoutros \(sboutros\)" , Thomas Nadeau , "venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 00:53:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail-E4445924-F0D4-4C56-8529-81C3815BA948 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii None on my side. Sam Sent from my iPhone On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Ross Callon wrote: > Working Group and authors; > > draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib is nearly ready to be called for > potential WG adoption. > > Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is IPR > on the document that needs to be disclosed. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib? > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thanks, Ross > (as MPLS WG co-chair) > > --Apple-Mail-E4445924-F0D4-4C56-8529-81C3815BA948 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
None on my side.

Sam

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:38 PM, Ross Callon <rcallon@juniper.net> wrote:

Working Group and authors;
 
draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib is nearly ready to be called for
potential WG adoption.
 
Before the call for adoption, we would like to check whether there is IPR
on the document that needs to be disclosed.
 
Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib?
If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
 
If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response
has been received from each author and contributor.
 
If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
 
Thanks, Ross
(as MPLS WG co-chair)
 
 
--Apple-Mail-E4445924-F0D4-4C56-8529-81C3815BA948-- From loa@pi.nu Fri Jun 1 20:19:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7035121F8818 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 20:19:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J+v+LS2Fz5fk for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 20:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13C021F8817 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2012 20:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.36.55] (unknown [122.146.68.188]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 95D012A8005 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 05:19:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FC98640.1000604@pi.nu> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 05:19:28 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" References: <20120601151238.GV4067@pfrc> In-Reply-To: <20120601151238.GV4067@pfrc> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20120601151238.GV4067@pfrc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [mpls] Fwd: Adoption of draft-vkst-bfd-mpls-mib X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 03:19:28 -0000 Working Group, please be aware of that the the BFD working group started a poll on making draft-vkst-bfd-mpls-mib a working group document. Comments on this should go to rtg-bfd@ietf.org -Loa -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Adoption of draft-vkst-bfd-mpls-mib Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:12:38 -0400 From: Jeffrey Haas To: rtg-bfd@ietf.org Working Group, This begins a one week poll for the adoption of http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vkst-bfd-mpls-mib as a working group document. Note that this appears to be currently within the scope of our charter: : 1. Develop the MIB module for BFD and submit it to the IESG for publication : as a Proposed Standard. : : 5. Assist in the standardization of the BFD protocol for MPLS-TP. The : preferred solution will be interoperable with the current BFD specification. If our ADs disagree, we'll ask for a formal charter change to pick up this item. The room discussion regarding this draft during IETF 83 was positive. -- Jeff -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From adrian@olddog.co.uk Sat Jun 2 09:04:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1394421F85AA for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:04:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.548 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.548 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.051, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LwBKA24jsvyd for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4637921F85A8 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q52G4XB0021703; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:04:33 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q52G4WES021693 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:04:33 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 17:04:28 +0100 Message-ID: <046a01cd40d9$642e01b0$2c8a0510$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac1A2VVPrGeDu1lLTbKidFDiLwE3GQ== Content-Language: en-gb Cc: mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] Erratum against RFC 3811 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 16:04:36 -0000 Hi MPLS working group, Long ago, Vishwas raised an Erratum against RFC 3811 (the Textual Conventions MIB module for MPLS). You can see at http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?eid=1842 The essence of this is that the Syntax clause of the MplsExtendedTunnelId Textual Convention is wrong. He also thinks it should support IPv6 extended tunnel IDs. Without commenting on whether he is right or wrong, this type of change cannot be made using an Erratum. Please see point 7 of http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/errata-processing.html In my view, although only a few lines of text are proposed for modification, this change would make a technically un-interoperable change to existing implementations. Therefore it should be handled by discussion in the working group and a new RFC if there is consensus. I am rejecting the erratum. Thanks, Adrian From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sat Jun 2 09:28:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E5521F85C3; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:28:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.301 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.298, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JltkYLKWKqvP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2914621F8570; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 09:28:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.02 Message-ID: <20120602162807.6908.31949.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:28:07 -0700 Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-gtsm-08.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 16:28:07 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working= Group of the IETF. Title : The Generalized TTL Security Mechanism (GTSM) for Label = Distribution Protocol (LDP) Author(s) : Carlos Pignataro Rajiv Asati Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-gtsm-08.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2012-06-02 The Generalized TTL Security Mechanism (GTSM) describes a generalized use of a packet's Time to Live (TTL) (IPv4) or Hop Limit (IPv6) to verify that the packet was sourced by a node on a connected link, thereby protecting the router's IP control-plane from CPU utilization based attacks. This technique improves security and is used by many protocols. This document defines the GTSM use for the Label Distribution Protocol (LDP). This specification uses a bit reserved in RFC 5036 and therefore updates RFC 5036. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-gtsm-08.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-gtsm-08.txt The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-gtsm/ From loa@pi.nu Sat Jun 2 19:16:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032BC11E8073; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:16:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.509 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.509 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.045, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JoAdWVC8Oj6O; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6DD21F845A; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.36.55] (unknown [122.146.68.192]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B24E12A8002; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 04:16:17 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FCAC8F6.8060200@pi.nu> Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 04:16:22 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Nadeau , "aldrin.ietf@gmail.com" , "venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com" , Kannan KV Sampath , Sami Boutros , "ppan@infinera.com" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , Ross Callon Subject: Re: [mpls] Review for WG Adoption of draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 02:16:27 -0000 Authors, The review by Joan was part of the MPLS RT review prior to polling the document to become a working group. Though updating the draft prior to the poll is strictly not necessary to start the poll. However I would strongly prefer to poll an updated document. Could you please update and republish. /Loa (as wg chair) On 2012-05-23 23:16, Thomas Nadeau wrote: > > Hi Joan! > > Thanks for the review. Comments inline start with TOM: > > On 5/23/12 11:30 AM, "Joan Cucchiara" wrote: > >> >> Hello Authors, >> >> Thank you for proposing this solution. >> Please see my notes below. >> >> Thank you, >> -Joan >> >> 1) Coherency of document: >> A) Is document useful and likely to be used/useful in operational >> networks? >> >> This document contains a MIB Module with 2 tables. The tables allow >> creation of >> TP IDs of MPLS LSPs and Pseudowires. Also a pointer to rows in >> other MIBs Modules., i.e. to an MPLS Tunnel in the MPLS-TE-STD-MIB >> (RFC3012) >> or >> pseudowire in the PWE-STD-MIB (RFC5601). Since many vendors and >> operators >> support the MPLS-TE-STD-MIB and PW-STD-MIB, then one could agree with the >> authors that the architecture of this MIB is a viable approach. >> >> In other words, the authors are leveraging off of existing MIB >> implementations. >> They are doing this in a way which adheres to the rules of SMIv2 and I do >> think that the MIB is likely to be used/useful in operational networks. >> >> >> B) Is document technically sound? >> >> From a MIB perspective, no: >> >> I) Many objects are of type "DisplayString" which is used >> in SMIv1 but not in SMIv2. >> >> As the MIB Common TC doc specifies: >> >> https://svn.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-common-tcs >> >> >> "Note 2. DisplayString does not support internationalized text. >> It MUST NOT be used for objects that are required to >> hold internationalized text (which is always the case >> if the object is intended for use by humans [RFC2277]). >> Designers SHOULD consider using SnmpAdminString, >> Utf8String, or LongUtf8String for such objects." >> >> II) The term "Trap" is used in both the document and the MIB. >> This needs to be replaced by the term "Notification". Traps a mechanism >> in SNMPv1. Please see RFC3584. > > TOM: Ooops! We will fix this. > >> 2) Is document ready for WG adoption? >> >> I would ask that changes to remove DisplayString and use a TC which >> supports internationalization be done, and the term Trap removed >> prior to WG adoption for reasons stated above. >> >> This request should only take a few minutes of editing, but will bring >> the >> document upto SMIv2. > > TOM: Agree. There is no big issue fixing this. We will need to re-spin the > draft in a WG-approved format anyways, so we can fix this during those > edits. > >> >> Additionally, a few comments (mostly as fyi): >> >> I) this MIB contains configuration (read-create) objects. >> >> II) the document proposes to root the MIB under mplsStdMIB which was >> the convention for the set of MPLS MIBs in 2004 but guidelines have >> changed since then. >> >> III) The use of the accessible-for-notify and imports of >> IFMIB tables do not seem necessary in the MIB's current state. >> As the MIB is updated, this should be removed or clarified. > > TOM: Cool. > > --Tom > >> >> > -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com Sat Jun 2 21:13:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A5911E808A; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:13:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.464 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20EpJgNUx-OM; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0DC11E8088; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10so2206176vbb.31 for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:13:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jCJy8LpujX1EiPdLvhqXFaFYWFMEtF2dpvipJ8zk4cE=; b=shHvkktzp5nOr28rByAX+xj4LNZIuAiuI14aR3i9ven/md7fe06Irscga87AEarLFM PZjCwjNZSF2gpKAYbn6tFC6Gem1GsQQ0rBaYpcm8gqArTD9mxyx/hlV+007/e/cKWtjQ lzQoL/lQpdKd368Y3nPLP7fAIQKg28fKuvv9130QqmcJWocTgJeMuRSb+Z+bZ6qCgmmy njid2RdSHSnmHfPdqxV0OzLP3f0HL+/I4IFkH5E6bC/V/2/7djOHMh1Me+p7AP3IcH7U Tzd0f18X1B13S5loRteC2dsAGmfDAkCEDGLxmwgNrHxUaHfFeTsfHrDDsGRh0VuR/crE 9Gpg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.94.147 with SMTP id dc19mr7180112vdb.74.1338696808373; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.193.6 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:13:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCAC8F6.8060200@pi.nu> References: <4FCAC8F6.8060200@pi.nu> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:13:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Venkatesan Mahalingam To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "ppan@infinera.com" , Sami Boutros , Thomas Nadeau , "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , Ross Callon Subject: Re: [mpls] Review for WG Adoption of draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 04:13:30 -0000 Loa, > Could you please update and republish. Sure. We will address Joan's comments and republish the draft soon. Thanks, Venkat. On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Authors, > > The review by Joan was part of the MPLS RT review prior to polling the > document to become a working group. > > Though updating the draft prior to the poll is strictly not necessary > to start the poll. However I would strongly prefer to poll an updated > document. > > Could you please update and republish. > > /Loa > (as wg chair) > > > On 2012-05-23 23:16, Thomas Nadeau wrote: >> >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Hi Joan! >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Thanks for the review. Comments inline start with TOM: >> >> On 5/23/12 11:30 AM, "Joan Cucchiara" =A0wrot= e: >> >>> >>> Hello Authors, >>> >>> Thank you for proposing this solution. >>> Please see my notes below. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> =A0-Joan >>> >>> 1) Coherency of document: >>> A) Is document useful and likely to be used/useful in operational >>> networks? >>> >>> This document contains a MIB Module with 2 tables. =A0The tables allow >>> creation of >>> TP IDs of MPLS LSPs and Pseudowires. =A0 Also a pointer to rows in >>> other MIBs Modules., i.e. to an MPLS Tunnel in the MPLS-TE-STD-MIB >>> (RFC3012) >>> or >>> pseudowire in the PWE-STD-MIB (RFC5601). =A0 Since many vendors and >>> operators >>> support the MPLS-TE-STD-MIB and PW-STD-MIB, then one could agree with t= he >>> authors that the architecture of this MIB is a viable approach. >>> >>> In other words, the authors are leveraging off of existing MIB >>> implementations. >>> They are doing this in a way which adheres to the rules of SMIv2 and I = do >>> think that the MIB is likely to be used/useful in operational networks. >>> >>> >>> B) Is document technically sound? >>> >>> From a MIB perspective, no: >>> >>> I) Many objects are of type "DisplayString" which is used >>> in SMIv1 but not in SMIv2. >>> >>> As the MIB Common TC doc specifies: >>> >>> https://svn.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-common-tcs >>> >>> >>> =A0 "Note 2. =A0DisplayString does not support internationalized text. >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0It MUST NOT be used for objects that are require= d to >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0hold internationalized text (which is always the= case >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0if the object is intended for use by humans [RFC= 2277]). >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Designers SHOULD consider using SnmpAdminString, >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Utf8String, or LongUtf8String for such objects." >>> >>> II) The term "Trap" is used in both the document and the MIB. >>> This needs to be replaced by the term "Notification". =A0Traps a mechan= ism >>> in SNMPv1. =A0 Please see RFC3584. >> >> >> TOM: Ooops! We will fix this. >> >>> 2) Is document ready for WG adoption? >>> >>> I would ask that changes to remove DisplayString and use a TC which >>> supports internationalization be done, and the term Trap removed >>> prior to WG adoption for reasons stated above. >>> >>> This request should only take a few minutes of editing, but will bring >>> the >>> document upto SMIv2. >> >> >> TOM: Agree. There is no big issue fixing this. We will need to re-spin t= he >> draft in a WG-approved format anyways, so we can fix this during those >> edits. >> >>> >>> Additionally, a few comments (mostly as fyi): >>> >>> I) this MIB contains configuration (read-create) objects. >>> >>> II) the document proposes to root the MIB under mplsStdMIB which was >>> the convention for the set of MPLS MIBs in 2004 but guidelines have >>> changed since then. >>> >>> III) The use of the accessible-for-notify and imports of >>> IFMIB tables do not seem necessary in the MIB's current state. >>> As the MIB is updated, this should be removed or clarified. >> >> >> TOM: Cool. >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--Tom >> >>> >>> >> > > -- > > > Loa Andersson =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 email: loa.= andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0phone: +4= 6 10 717 52 13 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 +46 767 72 92 13 From saravanannarasimhan@gmail.com Sun Jun 3 00:12:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3F911E80AB for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 00:12:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gE0bVOq0TSOH for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 00:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gg0-f172.google.com (mail-gg0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2848F11E80A6 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 00:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ggnc4 with SMTP id c4so2788917ggn.31 for ; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 00:12:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DF/x20D/FVY+40In4pXjhA+8kr270nDZxJHzUNHjCTo=; b=m8xbBMhWdhkSS9vxIyqQGd4AuQMA5Wc6K4vc+l14LOQVXMumyZHSl6PSFZfSPZZiV2 m/3RhO/QpvnSC+QcaUVfsiG50dG2011ovpUOOFPCpf9qysPKN9GF0GJDF9AUDo0U95x7 XV3LvzqSFxrCEabYF6xyCxSswSGVZ8I3/ja3e03GViGP65v8f+Hi1yVfsqvlYP/0uxC7 ktbK05brwIX83kCgr1PXf2kUWihy8UEGPDsOtcfLZkbgc44KGkAYuEUDgusdRCAxkbuX JC0y/VT1QVwfpaCBDg7gUUOw1qvs2Fz4AOUK8uJ5Yb+aXj+sr4gqKqrNhrUgmEfq3wjI bCTw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.115.163 with SMTP id e23mr3307195yhh.95.1338707570810; Sun, 03 Jun 2012 00:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.147.4.30 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 00:12:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:42:50 +0530 Message-ID: From: Saravanan Narasimhan To: mpls@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf302d49be375ffe04c18c25f5 Subject: [mpls] Questions on BFD MPLS MIB X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 07:12:52 -0000 --20cf302d49be375ffe04c18c25f5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Authors, I have a question regarding the Section 5.2.1 of the draft draft-vkst-bfd-mpls-mib-02. It states that " bfdMplsSessMapType = teIpv4(3), -- OID of the first accessible object (mplsTunnelName) of -- the mplsTunnelEntry identifying the MPLS TE tunnel (being -- monitored using BFD) in the MPLS tunnel table. -- A value of zeroDotzero indicates that no association -- has been made as yet between the BFD session and the path -- being monitored. -- In the above OID example: -- 100 -> Tunnel Index -- 1 -> Tunnel instance -- 3221225985 -> Ingress LSR Id 192.0.2.1 -- 3221225987 -> Egress LSR Id 192.0.2.3 bfdMplsSessMapPointer = mplsTunnelName.100.1.3221225985.3221225987, bfdSessRowStatus = createAndGo } Similarly BFD session would be configured on the tail-end of the tunnel. " Here, at the tail-end of the tunnel, "Instance" is never really known. Tunnel can be setup with any tunnel instance (LSP ID) when it is signaled through RSVP-TE / CR-LDP. It need not be "1" as mentioned in the above example. So, We should be setting the map pointer as "bfdMplsSessMapPointer = mplsTunnelName.100.0.3221225985.3221225987". Am I right? Or should we take the approach as defined in PW-MPLS-STD-MIB (RFC 5602) where OutboundTunnel is mapped to the PW through individual objects (pwMplsOutboundTunnelIndex, pwMplsOutboundTunnelInstance, pwMplsOutboundTunnelLclLSR and pwMplsOutboundTunnelPeerLSR with pwMplsOutboundTunnelInstance as a READ-ONLY parameter) instead of a RowPointer approach done here. Please clarify. Also, Can you please clarify how this MIB can be used to monitor a tunnel setup through 1:1 protection support (RSVP-TE signaling as in RFC 4872) (2 LSP's -> Working and Protection)? Should we create 2 independent BFD sessions to monitor working and protection LSP or a single BFD session to monitor both? If we need to create 2 BFD sessions, how to map tunnel pointer to BFD session? Please clarify. Thank You, N.Saravanan --20cf302d49be375ffe04c18c25f5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Authors,

I have a question regarding t= he Section 5.2.1 of the draft draft-vkst-bfd-mpls-mib-02.

It states = that

" bfdMplsSessMapType =3D teIpv4(3),

=A0--= OID of the first accessible object (mplsTunnelName) of
=A0-- the mplsTunnelEntry identifying the MPLS TE tunnel (being= =20 -- monitored using BFD) in the MPLS tunnel table.=20
=A0-- A value of zeroDotzero indicates that no association -- has been made as yet between the BFD session and the path
=A0-- being monitored.=20
=A0-- In the above OID example:=20
=A0-- 100 -> Tunnel Index
=A0-- 1 -> Tunnel instance=20
=A0-- 3221225985 -> Ingress LSR Id 192.0.2.1
=A0-- 3221225987 -> Egress LSR Id 192.0.2.3

=A0=A0=A0 bfdMplsSessMapPointer=20 =3D mplsTunnelName.100.1.3221225985.3221225987, =20
=A0=A0=A0 bfdSessRowStatus =3D createAndGo
}

Similarly BFD session would be configured on the tail-end o= f=20 the tunnel.

"

Here, at the tail-end of the tunne= l, "Instance" is never really known. Tunnel can be setup with any= tunnel instance (LSP ID) when it is signaled through RSVP-TE / CR-LDP. It = need not be "1" as mentioned in the above example.

So, We should be setting the map pointer as

"bfdMplsSessMa= pPointer =3D mplsTunnelName.100.0.3221225985.3221225987". Am I right?<= br>
Or should we take the approach as defined in PW-MPLS-STD-MIB (RFC 56= 02) where OutboundTunnel is mapped to the PW through individual objects (pw= MplsOutboundTunnelIndex, pwMplsOutboundTunnelInstance, pwMplsOutboundTunnel= LclLSR and pwMplsOutboundTunnelPeerLSR with pwMplsOutboundTunnelInstance as= a READ-ONLY parameter) instead of a RowPointer approach done here. Please = clarify.

Also, Can you please clarify how this MIB can be used to monitor a tunn= el setup through 1:1 protection support (RSVP-TE signaling as in RFC 4872) = (2 LSP's -> Working and Protection)?

Should we create 2 inde= pendent BFD sessions to monitor working and protection LSP or a single BFD = session to monitor both?

If we need to create 2 BFD sessions, how to map tunnel pointer to BFD s= ession?

Please clarify.

Thank You,
N.Saravanan
--20cf302d49be375ffe04c18c25f5-- From jcucchiara@mindspring.com Sun Jun 3 23:16:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8670421F8821; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:16:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.687 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.687 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.911, BAYES_00=-2.599, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KpmCtKj--SIQ; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171D021F881C; Sun, 3 Jun 2012 23:16:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=FnmTmjIjiw1ar5ZjCtZuY4c3Afm+3Nk7wfyEwZY+eWrXqXVQc44G9gBUTju9G6qe; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.41.69.138] (helo=JoanPC) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SbQa7-0007OX-Jv; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 02:15:59 -0400 Message-ID: <0eb801cd4219$c9fc8e80$6701a8c0@JoanPC> From: "Joan Cucchiara" To: , , "Kannan KV Sampath" , , "Thomas Nadeau" Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 02:17:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-ELNK-Trace: 4d68bbe9cb71969ea344cf2d1a8e60840a9da525759e2654ba516fb0838684aed774e1c454f248d80cdf93a589ab4c3c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 24.41.69.138 Cc: "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , Ross Callon Subject: [mpls] MIB Dr. Review: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-te-mib-03.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 06:16:02 -0000 Hello, This document is clearly written and the examples are great! Thanks for that! Review is divided into sections. General Comments are followed by specific sections. The MIB Modules were compiled by smiLint and results are in each MIB Modules' section. There are some warnings, but think these should be fixed. My major concern is contained in the General Comments section below. Thanks, -Joan General Comments ----------------- Major concern: I would like to express that I can see why the MIB Modules are designed as they are. Namely, so mplsTunnelTable (in rfc3812) can be used for MPLS-TP Tunnels also. I do see there is likely to be value in doing that. However, my concern is that the semantic definition of two indices for mplsTunnelTable (mplsTunnelIngressLSRId, mplsTunnelEgressLSRId) are being semantically redefined in the MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB, and this breaks the rules of the SMI and there is a chance that legacy implementations could be jeopardized. The index being proposed is: mplsNodeConfigLocalId mplsNodeConfigLocalId OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX MplsLocalId MAX-ACCESS not-accessible STATUS current DESCRIPTION "This object allows the administrator to assign a unique local identifier to map Global_Node_ID or ICC." ::= { mplsNodeConfigEntry 1 } Where the TC MplsLocalId is: MplsLocalId ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION DISPLAY-HINT "d" STATUS current DESCRIPTION "This textual convention is used in accommodating the bigger size Global_Node_ID and/or ICC with lower size LSR identifier in order to index the mplsTunnelTable. The Local Identifier is configured between 1 and 16777215, as valid IP address range starts from 16777216(01.00.00.00). This range is chosen to identify the mplsTunnelTable's Ingress/Egress LSR-id is IP address or Local identifier, if the configured range is not IP address, administrator is expected to retrieve the complete information (Global_Node_ID or ICC) from mplsNodeConfigTable. This way, existing mplsTunnelTable is reused for bidirectional tunnel extensions for MPLS based transport networks. This Local Identifier allows the administrator to assign a unique identifier to map Global_Node_ID and/or ICC." SYNTAX Unsigned32(1..16777215) The MPLS-TE-STD-MIB (rfc3812) and the MPLS-TC-STD-MIB (rfc3811) have described the MplsExtendedTunnelId as: MplsTunnelEntry ::= SEQUENCE { ..... mplsTunnelIngressLSRId MplsExtendedTunnelId, mplsTunnelEgressLSRId MplsExtendedTunnelId, mplsTunnelIngressLSRId OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX MplsExtendedTunnelId MAX-ACCESS not-accessible STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Identity of the ingress LSR associated with this tunnel instance. When the MPLS signalling protocol is rsvp(2) this value SHOULD be equal to the Tunnel Sender Address in the Sender Template object and MAY be equal to the Extended Tunnel Id field in the SESSION object. When the MPLS signalling protocol is crldp(3) this value SHOULD be equal to the Ingress LSR Router ID field in the LSPID TLV object." REFERENCE "1. RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels, Awduche et al, RFC 3209, December 2001 2. Constraint-Based LSP Setup using LDP, Jamoussi (Editor), RFC 3212, January 2002" ::= { mplsTunnelEntry 3 } mplsTunnelEgressLSRId OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX MplsExtendedTunnelId MAX-ACCESS not-accessible STATUS current DESCRIPTION "Identity of the egress LSR associated with this tunnel instance." ::= { mplsTunnelEntry 4 } The TC from MPLS-TC-STD-MIB (rfc3811) is: MplsExtendedTunnelId ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION STATUS current DESCRIPTION "A unique identifier for an MPLS Tunnel. This may represent an IPv4 address of the ingress or egress LSR for the tunnel. This value is derived from the Extended Tunnel Id in RSVP or the Ingress Router ID for CR-LDP." REFERENCE "RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels, [RFC3209]. Constraint-Based LSP Setup using LDP, [RFC3212]." SYNTAX Unsigned32(0..4294967295) So, while I agree that mplsTunnelIngressLSRID and mplsTunnelEgressLSRId and mplsNodeConfigLocalId are all 32-bit values, the following 2 TCs are not semantically the same: MplsExtendedTunnelId ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION STATUS current DESCRIPTION "A unique identifier for an MPLS Tunnel. This may represent an IPv4 address of the ingress or egress LSR for the tunnel. This value is derived from the Extended Tunnel Id in RSVP or the Ingress Router ID for CR-LDP." REFERENCE "RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels, [RFC3209]. Constraint-Based LSP Setup using LDP, [RFC3212]." SYNTAX Unsigned32(0..4294967295) MplsLocalId ::= TEXTUAL-CONVENTION DISPLAY-HINT "d" STATUS current DESCRIPTION "This textual convention is used in accommodating the bigger size Global_Node_ID and/or ICC with lower size LSR identifier in order to index the mplsTunnelTable. The Local Identifier is configured between 1 and 16777215, as valid IP address range starts from 16777216(01.00.00.00). This range is chosen to identify the mplsTunnelTable's Ingress/Egress LSR-id is IP address or Local identifier, if the configured range is not IP address, administrator is expected to retrieve the complete information (Global_Node_ID or ICC) from mplsNodeConfigTable. This way, existing mplsTunnelTable is reused for bidirectional tunnel extensions for MPLS based transport networks. This Local Identifier allows the administrator to assign a unique identifier to map Global_Node_ID and/or ICC." SYNTAX Unsigned32(1..16777215) Therefore, I believe this is a semantic redefinition and could potentially cause issues for some legacy implementations. *) There were some warning generated by smiLint that should probably be fixed (please see individual MIB Modules discussion below.) *) MIB should be capitalized consistently. Sometimes mib is used, so please use capitals. *) There are 4 MIB Modules in this document which pertain to MPLS-TP. The proposal is to root them under mplsStdMIB. This has not been the convention for sometime. However, if the authors feel strongly about using mplsStdMIB, then please let me know. *) The word "traps" appears as a MIB comment in the MIB Modules. Please either remove the comment or use the notifications where appropriate. Traps are a SNMPv1 mechanism. *) MIB Guidelines suggest naming conventions to be used within a MIB Module (for tables, rows and objects within a row), This was not followed in these MIB Modules. As an example: MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB has the following table names: mplsNodeConfigTable mplsNodeIpMapTable mplsNodeIccMapTable mplsTunnelExtTable This is also the case in the other MIB Module(s). Please take a look at Appendix C of the MIB Guidelines (rfc4181). Section 4. Motivations ---------------------- Awkward. Section doesn't specify motivations, expect something like, This document provides a MIB Module which supports configuration of .... and monitoring of ....etc. Section 7. MIB Module Interdependencies How is this possible, since MPLS-TE-STD-MIB was defined so long ago? .. - MPLS-TE-STD-MIB [RFC3812] contains references to objects in MPLS-ID-STD-MIB. MPLS-TC-EXT-STD-MIB ========================== *) The name of this MIB Module is misleading. The TCs defined are specific to MPLS-TP so could this name be more specific, for example, MPLS-TP-TC-STD-MIB ? *) These TCs should have references. They are originally defined elsewhere, so why aren't their references? *) MplsNodeId DESCRIPTION ...LSR's /32 IPv4 loopback address What is meant by /32 ? MPLS-ID-STD-MIB ========================= SMILINT ------- mibs/MPLS-ID-STD-MIB:70: [5] {identifier-external-case-match} warning: identifier `mplsGlobalId' differs from `MPLS-TC-EXT-STD-MIB::MplsGlobalId' only in case mibs/MPLS-TC-EXT-STD-MIB:61: [6] {previous-definition} info: previous definition of `MplsGlobalId' mibs/MPLS-ID-STD-MIB:94: [5] {identifier-external-case-match} warning: identifier `mplsNodeId' differs from `MPLS-TC-EXT-STD-MIB::MplsNodeId' only in case mibs/MPLS-TC-EXT-STD-MIB:88: [6] {previous-definition} info: previous definition of `MplsNodeId' mibs/MPLS-ID-STD-MIB:4: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier `NOTIFICATION-TYPE' imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI' is never used mibs/MPLS-ID-STD-MIB:6: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier `NOTIFICATION-GROUP' imported from module `SNMPv2-CONF' is never used MPLS-LSR-EXT-MIB =================== *) The name of this MIB Module is too broad because MIB Module is specific to MPLS-TP, so something like MPLS-TP-LSR-EXT-MIB would be more appropriate IMHO. *) Is mplsXCExtTunnelPointer supposed to be read-only? The DESCRIPTION seems to indicate read-create? (leads to following question regarding compliance stmts....) *) The FullCompliance and ReadOnlyCompliance are confusing. Why does the mplsXCExtTunnelPointer object appear in both? MPLS-TE-EXT-MIB =================== SMILINT mibs/MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB:22: [4] {module-identity-registration} warning: uncontrolled IETF module identity registration mibs/MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB:4: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier `Unsigned32' imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI' is never used mibs/MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB:5: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier `Gauge32' imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI' is never used mibs/MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB:5: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier `NOTIFICATION-TYPE' imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI' is never used mibs/MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB:9: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier `NOTIFICATION-GROUP' imported from module `SNMPv2-CONF' is never used *) Warnings of severity [5] should be fixed. *) The name of this MIB Module is too broad also. MIB is specific to MPLS-TP and the name of the MIB Module should reflect that. One example is, MPLS-TP-TE-EXT-MIB. From tnadeau@juniper.net Mon Jun 4 09:17:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EC321F87E0; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:17:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.517 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.517 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wsbDpVIrX1n2; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og123.obsmtp.com (exprod7og123.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D8521F878E; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob123.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT8zfnNBw5jlwqocK3aIxUjVo2Jt+bn/F@postini.com; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:17:44 PDT Received: from p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.24) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 09:16:45 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::d0d1:653d:5b91:a123%11]) with mapi; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 12:16:21 -0400 From: Thomas Nadeau To: Loa Andersson Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 12:16:21 -0400 Thread-Topic: Review for WG Adoption of draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-02.txt Thread-Index: Ac1CbWEnaoiQRWEnQzOYxa2o9Epciw== Message-ID: <23EA0526-866E-4151-BBF6-6C26DE0A44AF@juniper.net> References: <4FCAC8F6.8060200@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FCAC8F6.8060200@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "ppan@infinera.com" , Sami Boutros , Ross Callon , "MIB Doctors \(E-mail\)" , "venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com" Subject: Re: [mpls] Review for WG Adoption of draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:17:46 -0000 yes we will update. thanks again Joan for reviewing! Tom=20 On Jun 2, 2012, at 10:16 PM, "Loa Andersson" wrote: > Authors, >=20 > The review by Joan was part of the MPLS RT review prior to polling the > document to become a working group. >=20 > Though updating the draft prior to the poll is strictly not necessary > to start the poll. However I would strongly prefer to poll an updated > document. >=20 > Could you please update and republish. >=20 > /Loa > (as wg chair) >=20 > On 2012-05-23 23:16, Thomas Nadeau wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Joan! >>=20 >> Thanks for the review. Comments inline start with TOM: >>=20 >> On 5/23/12 11:30 AM, "Joan Cucchiara" wrote: >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Hello Authors, >>>=20 >>> Thank you for proposing this solution. >>> Please see my notes below. >>>=20 >>> Thank you, >>> -Joan >>>=20 >>> 1) Coherency of document: >>> A) Is document useful and likely to be used/useful in operational >>> networks? >>>=20 >>> This document contains a MIB Module with 2 tables. The tables allow >>> creation of >>> TP IDs of MPLS LSPs and Pseudowires. Also a pointer to rows in >>> other MIBs Modules., i.e. to an MPLS Tunnel in the MPLS-TE-STD-MIB >>> (RFC3012) >>> or >>> pseudowire in the PWE-STD-MIB (RFC5601). Since many vendors and >>> operators >>> support the MPLS-TE-STD-MIB and PW-STD-MIB, then one could agree with t= he >>> authors that the architecture of this MIB is a viable approach. >>>=20 >>> In other words, the authors are leveraging off of existing MIB >>> implementations. >>> They are doing this in a way which adheres to the rules of SMIv2 and I = do >>> think that the MIB is likely to be used/useful in operational networks. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> B) Is document technically sound? >>>=20 >>> From a MIB perspective, no: >>>=20 >>> I) Many objects are of type "DisplayString" which is used >>> in SMIv1 but not in SMIv2. >>>=20 >>> As the MIB Common TC doc specifies: >>>=20 >>> https://svn.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/mib-common-tcs >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> "Note 2. DisplayString does not support internationalized text. >>> It MUST NOT be used for objects that are required to >>> hold internationalized text (which is always the case >>> if the object is intended for use by humans [RFC2277]). >>> Designers SHOULD consider using SnmpAdminString, >>> Utf8String, or LongUtf8String for such objects." >>>=20 >>> II) The term "Trap" is used in both the document and the MIB. >>> This needs to be replaced by the term "Notification". Traps a mechanis= m >>> in SNMPv1. Please see RFC3584. >>=20 >> TOM: Ooops! We will fix this. >>=20 >>> 2) Is document ready for WG adoption? >>>=20 >>> I would ask that changes to remove DisplayString and use a TC which >>> supports internationalization be done, and the term Trap removed >>> prior to WG adoption for reasons stated above. >>>=20 >>> This request should only take a few minutes of editing, but will bring >>> the >>> document upto SMIv2. >>=20 >> TOM: Agree. There is no big issue fixing this. We will need to re-spin t= he >> draft in a WG-approved format anyways, so we can fix this during those >> edits. >>=20 >>>=20 >>> Additionally, a few comments (mostly as fyi): >>>=20 >>> I) this MIB contains configuration (read-create) objects. >>>=20 >>> II) the document proposes to root the MIB under mplsStdMIB which was >>> the convention for the set of MPLS MIBs in 2004 but guidelines have >>> changed since then. >>>=20 >>> III) The use of the accessible-for-notify and imports of >>> IFMIB tables do not seem necessary in the MIB's current state. >>> As the MIB is updated, this should be removed or clarified. >>=20 >> TOM: Cool. >>=20 >> --Tom >>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 From tnadeau@lucidvision.com Mon Jun 4 11:29:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F58711E80B1 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kHYew3ZuPjjn for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lucidvision.com (lucidvision.com [72.71.250.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B88311E809B for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2429C214E8F7; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:29:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at www.lucidvision.com Received: from lucidvision.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (static-72-71-250-34.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cMEt+Ry-lTzd; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:29:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.25.119] (ns-visitor-nsrp.juniper.net [208.223.208.242]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E24214E8F3; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:29:12 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Thomas Nadeau In-Reply-To: <046a01cd40d9$642e01b0$2c8a0510$@olddog.co.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:29:39 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <16948FDB-D05A-41C1-9DD3-AF67BD7D9A37@lucidvision.com> References: <046a01cd40d9$642e01b0$2c8a0510$@olddog.co.uk> To: adrian@olddog.co.uk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: mpls@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Erratum against RFC 3811 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:29:15 -0000 I agree.=20 --Tom On Jun 2, 2012:12:04 PM, at 12:04 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote: > Hi MPLS working group, >=20 > Long ago, Vishwas raised an Erratum against RFC 3811 (the Textual = Conventions > MIB module for MPLS). >=20 > You can see at http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?eid=3D1842 >=20 > The essence of this is that the Syntax clause of the = MplsExtendedTunnelId > Textual Convention is wrong. He also thinks it should support IPv6 = extended > tunnel IDs. >=20 > Without commenting on whether he is right or wrong, this type of = change cannot > be made using an Erratum. Please see point 7 of > http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/errata-processing.html=20 >=20 > In my view, although only a few lines of text are proposed for = modification, > this change would make a technically un-interoperable change to = existing > implementations. Therefore it should be handled by discussion in the = working > group and a new RFC if there is consensus. I am rejecting the erratum. >=20 > Thanks, > Adrian >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >=20 From vishwas.ietf@gmail.com Mon Jun 4 15:37:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A3421F8781 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:37:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.376 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.222, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E77m1osUA+De for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998E721F86C9 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbeh20 with SMTP id eh20so9180790obb.31 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:37:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Tu7R0diKaup6MaOI6OglxhRKhRbn2r2bCwrSnuKGnFE=; b=CQ8FX/OdY/etA/4+Eli3OQaXj+aLVlj5DgerMmarRPGzOYaeuCUsPTy7d9rGCyaoaF 9NrNsDd3X2DM29Zz1MV4w5G3OE0Pbj1M4KqiG5y/sN/sX0xuDfhxXWXd41Pjx26LtkZM rNHY1vap5G8ZRsvlHO828zl5UxceplqZbAgf2pHPCtxKWmK0GTFHkfI624Jf3OdQ6g7p ixo7QyGsh685a9xcvPED044jFYUDsTBAwEP8PfsYqh8OF1KhAauyQ2SxWUxGa+1R1G80 gvRwSKFARsCwPsCBH7088+kzhFho6S5D8i9tWInEiLT442X8umiERnJiSjtEFA/KOmCW UfDw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.20.70 with SMTP id l6mr13827587oee.38.1338849466108; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.214.33 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:37:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <046a01cd40d9$642e01b0$2c8a0510$@olddog.co.uk> References: <046a01cd40d9$642e01b0$2c8a0510$@olddog.co.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:37:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Vishwas Manral To: adrian@olddog.co.uk Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb20674d5cc3804c1ad2e88 Cc: mpls@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Erratum against RFC 3811 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2012 22:37:47 -0000 --e89a8fb20674d5cc3804c1ad2e88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Adrian, I agree we can reject the Errata, the changes effect much more than the specification itself. I found the issues, when working on MPLS for IPv6 about 4 years ago. The bigger issue for me, however is how to correct such errors. We had to make changes to our MIB implementation to get this working internally - because of the discrepancy between the MIB and the technology specification. Do you think I should revive the draft? http://potaroo.net/ietf/idref/draft-manral-mpls-rfc3811bis/ Thanks, Vishwas On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote: > Hi MPLS working group, > > Long ago, Vishwas raised an Erratum against RFC 3811 (the Textual > Conventions > MIB module for MPLS). > > You can see at http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?eid=1842 > > The essence of this is that the Syntax clause of the MplsExtendedTunnelId > Textual Convention is wrong. He also thinks it should support IPv6 extended > tunnel IDs. > > Without commenting on whether he is right or wrong, this type of change > cannot > be made using an Erratum. Please see point 7 of > http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/errata-processing.html > > In my view, although only a few lines of text are proposed for > modification, > this change would make a technically un-interoperable change to existing > implementations. Therefore it should be handled by discussion in the > working > group and a new RFC if there is consensus. I am rejecting the erratum. > > Thanks, > Adrian > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --e89a8fb20674d5cc3804c1ad2e88 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Adrian,

I agree we can reject the Errata, the changes effect much= more than the specification itself.

I found the issues, when worki= ng on MPLS for IPv6 about 4 years ago. The bigger issue for me, however is = how to correct such errors. We had to make changes to our MIB implementatio= n to get this working internally - because of the discrepancy between the M= IB and the technology specification.

Do you think I should revive the draft?
http://potaroo.net/ietf/idref/d= raft-manral-mpls-rfc3811bis/

Thanks,
Vishwas

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk&g= t; wrote:
Hi MPLS working group,

Long ago, Vishwas raised an Erratum against RFC 3811 (the Textual Conventio= ns
MIB module for MPLS).

You can see at http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?eid= =3D1842

The essence of this is that the Syntax clause of the MplsExtendedTunnelId Textual Convention is wrong. He also thinks it should support IPv6 extended=
tunnel IDs.

Without commenting on whether he is right or wrong, this type of change can= not
be made using an Erratum. Please see point 7 of
http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/errata-processing.html<= br>
In my view, although only a few lines of text are proposed for modification= ,
this change would make a technically un-interoperable change to existing implementations. Therefore it should be handled by discussion in the workin= g
group and a new RFC if there is consensus. I am rejecting the erratum.

Thanks,
Adrian

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mpls mailing list
mpls@ietf.org
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--e89a8fb20674d5cc3804c1ad2e88-- From loa@pi.nu Mon Jun 4 19:42:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C851711E80C2 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:42:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.565 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.565 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.034, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ESuBJiZIt0xU for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36A011E80B4 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.36.55] (unknown [122.146.68.192]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A5E62A8002; Tue, 5 Jun 2012 04:41:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FCD71F9.8090304@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 04:42:01 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team References: <4FAD27C6.7060309@pi.nu> <4FADD6B2.90705@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FADD6B2.90705@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [mpls] Correction: mpls working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-te-mib-03 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 02:42:02 -0000 Working group, this working last call is close. We have comments from Joan Cucchiara as part of an early MIB Doctor review. Joan have several comments, especially she points out that the draft redefines mplsTunnelTable (in rfc3812) in a way that breaks SMI. There are also comments on individual sections and some smilint warnings. The authors should work with Joan and the MID Doctors to resolve these comments before we go ahead. /Loa (as wg co-chair) On 2012-05-12 05:19, Loa Andersson wrote: > Folks, > > my web-mail sometimes cut the subject line; the correct > subject should be "mpls working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-te-mib-03". > > /Loa > > On 2012-05-11 16:52, Loa Andersson wrote: >> Worling Group, >> >> this is to start a two week (+) working group last call on >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-te-mib-03. >> >> Please send your comments to the MPLS wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org) >> before eob June 4 2012. >> >> All the co-authors has responded that they are not aware of >> existing IPR's for this draft. However the call for IPR >> declarations from other working group members are still >> open (end date is May 18th), but since all the authors has >> responded to the IPR call and we for other reasons allow for an >> extra week of wg last call we see no reason to wait starting >> this wg last call. >> >> /Loa >> for the wg co-chairs > -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From venkatflex@gmail.com Mon Jun 4 20:28:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F6C11E80B4; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:28:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WGLtuImQ4bNL; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82ED21F86A0; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vbbez10 with SMTP id ez10so3268977vbb.31 for ; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:28:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JnjCCBWbkJa6wZVQcqw7oErAeDGaclj8/MM7MqeK4s4=; b=Z4gje8XpJSm3AW8FNkRSwBHGnPx5+Mx8zNIcucG3MKpX5mzajKa6w2gq2e5+XSCt4d mKS58I1yAiwmBouazLPknyrpq7qJm8GbixQsDNdBE0hvjserLsu9Jb3qk7uUU0PccIOn PLL/sFc83fLWRIryqJGGrFAOFGZr3mNhJ/HlHhUJXuK8LVDEsuyMo3MtDkkquzbJGgIY TJDWBznxPl7csx0mf6GJR90agxn9V54wyO5XRwVTOrpIyVG3XlyauhSAwKzv67K0qd87 vr7xxNbDBOFeKb/gFBzvRAV+3gv3e85n/Qa2IUHYYjEgM3Q76BukQ94q+iSdSaLDmqpG rC8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.94.36 with SMTP id cz4mr13005260vdb.10.1338866907306; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 20:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.34.205 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:28:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 20:28:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: venkatesan mahalingam To: Saravanan Narasimhan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: mpls@ietf.org, rtg-bfd@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Questions on BFD MPLS MIB X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 03:28:29 -0000 Hi, Please find below the comments inline with the tag [VM]. Thanks, Venkat. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Saravanan Narasimhan wrote: > Hi Authors, > > I have a question regarding the Section 5.2.1 of the draft > draft-vkst-bfd-mpls-mib-02. > > It states that > > " bfdMplsSessMapType =3D teIpv4(3), > > =A0-- OID of the first accessible object (mplsTunnelName) of > =A0-- the mplsTunnelEntry identifying the MPLS TE tunnel (being -- monito= red > using BFD) in the MPLS tunnel table. > =A0-- A value of zeroDotzero indicates that no association -- has been ma= de as > yet between the BFD session and the path > =A0-- being monitored. > =A0-- In the above OID example: > =A0-- 100 -> Tunnel Index > =A0-- 1 -> Tunnel instance > =A0-- 3221225985 -> Ingress LSR Id 192.0.2.1 > =A0-- 3221225987 -> Egress LSR Id 192.0.2.3 > > =A0=A0=A0 bfdMplsSessMapPointer =3D mplsTunnelName.100.1.3221225985.32212= 25987, > =A0=A0=A0 bfdSessRowStatus =3D createAndGo > } > > Similarly BFD session would be configured on the tail-end of the tunnel. > > " > > Here, at the tail-end of the tunnel, "Instance" is never really known. > Tunnel can be setup with any tunnel instance (LSP ID) when it is signaled > through RSVP-TE / CR-LDP. It need not be "1" as mentioned in the above > example. > > So, We should be setting the map pointer as > > "bfdMplsSessMapPointer =3D mplsTunnelName.100.0.3221225985.3221225987". A= m I > right? [VM] If I'm not wrong, tunnel instance 0 is reserved for configured tunnel, we should be able to get the LSP-id through RSVP-TE or out-of-band signalling (LSP Ping). > Or should we take the approach as defined in PW-MPLS-STD-MIB (RFC 5602) > where OutboundTunnel is mapped to the PW through individual objects > (pwMplsOutboundTunnelIndex, pwMplsOutboundTunnelInstance, > pwMplsOutboundTunnelLclLSR and pwMplsOutboundTunnelPeerLSR with > pwMplsOutboundTunnelInstance as a READ-ONLY parameter) instead of a > RowPointer approach done here. Please clarify. [VM] RowPointer approach should be fine. > Also, Can you please clarify how this MIB can be used to monitor a tunnel > setup through 1:1 protection support (RSVP-TE signaling as in RFC 4872) (= 2 > LSP's -> Working and Protection)? > > Should we create 2 independent BFD sessions to monitor working and > protection LSP or a single BFD session to monitor both? [VM] Yes, two independent BFD sessions are required to monitor both working and protection paths. > If we need to create 2 BFD sessions, how to map tunnel pointer to BFD > session? [VM] Either you can configure tunnel pointers at the head and tail nodes manually or use out-of-band signalling using on-demand CV. > > Please clarify. > > Thank You, > N.Saravanan > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > From loa@pi.nu Thu Jun 7 00:41:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADCF21F85BD for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:41:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.498 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.498 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.034, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MaoSPOoVxXeA for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C870C21F865B for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.36.55] (unknown [122.146.68.192]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C07EE2A8003; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:41:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FD05B14.1090004@pi.nu> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:41:08 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:41:14 -0000 Working Group, this is to start a two week poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt to see if we want to adopt it as a working group document. 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Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:01:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qy4DeoIeooWh for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rad.co.il (mailrelay02-q.rad.co.il [94.188.133.159]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0690121F84EC for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 02:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by MailRelay02 (envelope-from muly?i@rad.com) with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Jun 2012 11:35:43 +0300 Received: from EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il ([192.114.24.28]) by EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il ([192.114.24.28]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:01:45 +0300 From: Muly Ilan To: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt Thread-Index: AQHNRID0vSryWVlyaECShZ3CO/94R5bujt9Q Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:01:44 +0000 Message-ID: <32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042B0C7D@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> References: <4FD05B14.1090004@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FD05B14.1090004@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-AU, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.17.170.136] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Commtouch-Refid: str=0001.0A090204.4FD06DFA.0061,ss=1,fgs=0 Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: Re: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:01:54 -0000 I support this draft to become a WG document. Muly -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa= Andersson Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:41 AM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt Working Group, this is to start a two week poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt to see if we want to adopt it as a working group document. The poll ends June 23. Please send comments to the MPLS working group mailing list. /Loa as wg co-chair --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 ____________= ___________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From scott.mansfield@ericsson.com Thu Jun 7 05:10:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D784121F8687 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 05:10:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.172 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.172 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.292, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uACricQAy2S2 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 05:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF0921F85BE for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 05:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id q57CA416029297; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 07:10:06 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.31]) by eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) with mapi; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:10:00 -0400 From: Scott Mansfield To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 08:09:41 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt Thread-Index: Ac1EgPAHfvHRbOOzSqKBcn2DTgjt0gAJWlaQ Message-ID: References: <4FD05B14.1090004@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FD05B14.1090004@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: Re: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:10:10 -0000 Support -scott.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On=20 > Behalf Of Loa Andersson > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 3:41 AM > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team > Subject: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt >=20 > Working Group, >=20 > this is to start a two week poll on=20 > draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt > to see if we want to adopt it as a working group document. >=20 > The poll ends June 23. >=20 > Please send comments to the MPLS working group mailing list. >=20 > /Loa > as wg co-chair > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email:=20 > loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92=20 > 13 _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > = From jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com Thu Jun 7 10:09:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6D921F876E for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:09:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.532 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.532 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2MhA9p6lX6uW for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F26921F86BE for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id q57H9Q9U020247; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:09:29 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.31]) by eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) with mapi; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:09:24 -0400 From: Jeff Tantsura To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:09:22 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt Thread-Index: Ac1EgPAHfvHRbOOzSqKBcn2DTgjt0gAT0YFg Message-ID: <0ED867EB33AB2B45AAB470D5A64CDBF6218E52C534@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> References: <4FD05B14.1090004@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FD05B14.1090004@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:09:30 -0000 Yes/support Regards, Jeff -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa= Andersson Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 12:41 AM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt Working Group, this is to start a two week poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt to see if we want to adopt it as a working group document. The poll ends June 23. Please send comments to the MPLS working group mailing list. /Loa as wg co-chair --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 ____________= ___________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com Thu Jun 7 15:35:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EAA11E80DF for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:35:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.532 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.532 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30cLA641j3BO for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAA911E80DE for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vcqp1 with SMTP id p1so685921vcq.31 for ; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:35:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GGFFkHMkX9/tyvc1o6NySabO4ZPFq1hewiyrXvvNXb4=; b=C6IcGXglKcMu2OaJbnnj/5OAWArVpRwhbasD+XFhTlv7BkASofo3tCBBVrUoDQ420b TNRjDHDRfUY/PVDTO1aO37TRTlP86yXIGmJv7Lr/aOg4yFPcSkW/t74G4HKwZZ7FOYvr WOiRtKH7WixnSqope0+U2Jez38+9l8LV5DtTpNZh4wx0Od09vzHzpyowOY1RdBH8ou76 GsdhzBnnhUyT7dFjuVqq9cXns/b2EjxffOHpKxA/v9UFqbO9/kAb90fWBZwHVqmk/Y3t gcFRzZIFQux7MYug0mdfLD1xK5uajKnm+3VbBhhOls+ewrfazVacg3DnBmidTjBSGsbt f13A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.23.144 with SMTP id m16mr3344454vdf.77.1339108503912; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.193.6 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:35:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042B1CFE@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> References: <32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042B1CFE@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:35:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: Venkatesan Mahalingam To: Muly Ilan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "tnadeau@juniper.net" , Sam Aldrin , mpls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Typos and editing in draft-ietf-mpls-tp-te-mib-03 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:35:05 -0000 Hi, Thanks for your comments, we will fix typos and indentation in the next ver= sion. Regards, Venkat. On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Muly Ilan wrote: > Hi, > > > > Sorry for the very late response. Only noticed it now. > > > > 1.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Section 9.2.6 should be renamed to =93Reverse direct= ion > mplsTunnelEntry=94 instead of =93Forward direction mplsTunnelEntry=94. > > 2.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Missing CRs in section 9.2.8 causing indentation pro= blems. > > 3.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 In section 9.2.10 change =93mplsXCExtTunnelPointer= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =3D > mplsTunnelName.1.1.1.2=94 to =93mplsXCExtTunnelPointer=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0 =3D > mplsTunnelName.2.1.2.1=94. > > > > > > Muly From lizhong.jin@zte.com.cn Thu Jun 7 20:24:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A7011E80AB for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:24:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.703 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.703 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE=0.76, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hlvZWLIIELnd for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx5.zte.com.cn (mx6.zte.com.cn [95.130.199.165]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4316221F85F4 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.30.17.100] by mx5.zte.com.cn with surfront esmtp id 28620806486374; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:22:49 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.30.3.20] by [192.168.168.16] with StormMail ESMTP id 71343.1180738496; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:23:46 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse01.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id q583Nq6C083823; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:23:52 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from lizhong.jin@zte.com.cn) In-Reply-To: To: mpls@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Lizhong Jin Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 11:22:59 +0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.1FP4|July 25, 2010) at 2012-06-08 11:23:53, Serialize complete at 2012-06-08 11:23:53 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0012A93B48257A17_=" X-MAIL: mse01.zte.com.cn q583Nq6C083823 Subject: Re: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 03:24:06 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0012A93B48257A17_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Yes, support. Lizhong ----------------------------------- > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:41:08 +0200 > From: Loa Andersson > To: "mpls@ietf.org" > Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , MPLS-TP > ad hoc team > Subject: [mpls] poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt > Message-ID: <4FD05B14.1090004@pi.nu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Working Group, > > this is to start a two week poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt > to see if we want to adopt it as a working group document. > > The poll ends June 23. > > Please send comments to the MPLS working group mailing list. > > /Loa > as wg co-chair > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > > --=_alternative 0012A93B48257A17_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
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> Working Group,
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> this is to start a two week poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt
> to see if we want to adopt it as a working group document.
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> The poll ends June 23.
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> Please send comments to the MPLS working group mailing list.
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> /Loa
> as wg co-chair
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> Loa Andersson                         email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com
> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager            loa@pi.nu
> Ericsson Inc                          phone: +46 10 717 52 13
>                                               +46 767 72 92 13
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> --=_alternative 0012A93B48257A17_=-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Jun 8 09:16:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F395621F88C1; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 09:16:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.527 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.527 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.072, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jym1zV791CBn; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 09:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34E821F88B0; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 09:16:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.02 Message-ID: <20120608161601.16183.96620.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 09:16:01 -0700 Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 16:16:04 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working= Group of the IETF. Title : Updates to LDP for IPv6 Author(s) : Rajiv Asati Vishwas Manral Rajiv Papneja Carlos Pignataro Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2012-06-08 The Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) specification defines procedures to exchange label bindings over either IPv4, IPv6 or both networks. This document corrects and clarifies the LDP behavior when IPv6 network is used (with or without IPv4). This document updates RFC 5036. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07.txt The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6/ From eric.gray@ericsson.com Fri Jun 8 13:29:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D2D11E8139 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:29:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IWDeM-92XpmG for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr3.ericy.com (imr3.ericy.com [198.24.6.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9DE21F8681 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 13:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) by imr3.ericy.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q58KSqwQ009111 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 8 Jun 2012 15:28:58 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.31]) by eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) with mapi; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:28:54 -0400 From: Eric Gray To: Loa Andersson , "draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv@tools.ietf.org" Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:28:53 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls] wg last call on gach-adv and ethernet-addressing drafts Thread-Index: Ac0+EExyzMXIBzMZQPmWsrlacY8pgwHnVW4Q Message-ID: References: <4FC58D13.6050803@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FC58D13.6050803@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: Re: [mpls] wg last call on gach-adv and ethernet-addressing drafts X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 20:29:00 -0000 My Last call review comments on draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv-02: In general, this is a very well written draft that is nearly ready to publish. There is one major issue that needs to be addressed. Major Issue: There is an important point that does not appear to have been=20 made sufficiently clear in the IANA Considerations section. For the TLV types, I assume that the TLV type numbers (section 9.4) are intended to be allocated within the context of an=20 application ID (allocated according to section 9.3). This is very much not clear. In fact, reading section 9.4 as=20 it now stands, it looks as if there is a single context for TLV IDs, that there are a maximum number of TLV IDs available of 255, and that five of these are used by the application in this draft. This seems odd, given that the number space for application IDs is from 0x000 to 0xFFFF. It would seem that we anticipate we will have a lot of applications for this protocol, but not too many will actually need to say anything. Hence my assumption about the intent of the TLV type number=20 space. Please clarify what you are really expecting from this TLV Type Registry. Minor Issue: In the second pargraph on page 4, I believe one can also use=20 LLDP to discover the MAC address of an adjacent Ethernet peer. The authors mention this proposed GAP protocol standard can be used to exchange information similar to the use of LLDP, and then follows this immediately with a special case to find out an adjacent peer's MAC address in the case where IP isn't supported - using GAP. Have the authors given any thought to the possibility that the fact that IP is not supported may be attributable to the fact that Ethernet _is_ supported for L2 peer-to-peer exchanges, including LLDP? IMO, this makes the "special case" not so much so. I think - given that there are a few things we know about this case (e.g. - both Ethernet and MPLS are presumed to apply), it=20 would be useful to be clear about when it would be the case that: 1) IP is not present, 2) Ethernet is present, 3) Knowing the MAC address of an adjacent Ethernet entity is=20 needed, and 4) LLDP is not already used. NIT: I find the phrase "a primary purpose" somewhat jarring in the Introduction. Is there more than one "primary" purpose? Perhaps "One key" as opposed to "A primary"? -- Eric Gray -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa= Andersson Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:00 PM To: mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: [mpls] wg last call on gach-adv and ethernet-addressing drafts Working Group, This is to start a two week working group last call on two drafts: - draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv-02; and - draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-01 Please send comments to the mpls working group list. The working group last call ends June 15, 2012. Thanks, Loa (as MPLS WG co-chair) --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From eric.gray@ericsson.com Fri Jun 8 14:16:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D18C11E819B for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 14:16:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qUIi9Qn47RMF for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 14:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265F011E8142 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 14:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.32]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id q58LGLIB020580; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 16:16:23 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.31]) by eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.32]) with mapi; Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:16:16 -0400 From: Eric Gray To: Loa Andersson , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing@tools.iet.org" Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:16:14 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls] wg last call on gach-adv and ethernet-addressing drafts Thread-Index: Ac0+EExyzMXIBzMZQPmWsrlacY8pgwHpazyw Message-ID: References: <4FC58D13.6050803@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FC58D13.6050803@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: Re: [mpls] wg last call on gach-adv and ethernet-addressing drafts X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 21:16:25 -0000 My Last Call comments on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-01 In general, this draft is nearly ready for publishing as an RFC. There are issues the working group and authors should consider. Major Issue: This is listed here because I am uncertain of the degree to which this may be a major or minor issue. The issue is with the inclusion of MTU as a discoverable parameter (Section 4). One reason for using a protocol other than LLDP to discover the Ethernet MAC address of an adjacent LSR, is where a physical link may include one or more intermediate bridges. If this is the case, and LLDP is not in use, then the MTU of the Ethernet end-stations (the peer/adjacent LSRs) may not be useful, since the intervening bridges could conceivably have a lower MTU. Minor Issues: IANA Considerations - Why do the authors create yet another registry for IANA to maintain, instead of using TLVs (with type numbers taken from the regitry that was created in the GAP specification - from which this draft already takes a new application identifier)? This appears to set a very nasty precedent: each new application ID specified from an IANA registry may establish a new registry. Does IANA have the head-room for this? NITs: IANA Considerations - Not sure why section 6.1 is included. There is no action required=20 of IANA here, AFAICT. Minimally, the authors should explicitly state that no further action is required from IANA by this section. -- Eric Gray -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa= Andersson Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:00 PM To: mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: [mpls] wg last call on gach-adv and ethernet-addressing drafts Working Group, This is to start a two week working group last call on two drafts: - draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv-02; and - draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-01 Please send comments to the mpls working group list. The working group last call ends June 15, 2012. Thanks, Loa (as MPLS WG co-chair) --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From stbryant@cisco.com Sat Jun 9 02:03:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FBD21F89F4 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 02:03:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.529 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.529 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, OBSCURED_EMAIL=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MsH4qENvHQZi for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 02:03:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A9C21F89FD for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 02:03:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=stbryant@cisco.com; l=3781; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1339232591; x=1340442191; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:mime-version:to:subject: content-transfer-encoding; bh=CdiJkdY83JJ4J+9D4IcXxVKDgzDeJTBUaltmab7FID4=; b=hSqLRlqzIPBnhvAjLl8es1Fh0aolpVl8XMgFeqU8y1Csq5H+VmiB9WXF WYihFlXQzeu0m9VHD2hK6s181CFRZKKfSqKbSPidmvpBia5vTuaFetSSl l34GS94leACFe0cR/UeNamd/g0Ii3WZ/R+LM0IIu/oJ7PWjTg2dwGykND o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAL0Q00+Q/khL/2dsb2JhbABFtFmBB4IxAQIjLxE9FhgDAgECAUsBDAgBAR6HaZh0g0cQgU6aNZEQA5UejhWBBGKCYQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,741,1330905600"; d="scan'208";a="139401720" Received: from ams-core-2.cisco.com ([144.254.72.75]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Jun 2012 09:03:09 +0000 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.70.36]) by ams-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q59934QN006246 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 9 Jun 2012 09:03:04 GMT Received: from stbryant-mac2.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cisco.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id q59932dS019979; Sat, 9 Jun 2012 10:03:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4FD31147.7090506@cisco.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 10:03:03 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label@tools.ietf.org, "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [mpls] draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label - OAM text X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: stbryant@cisco.com List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2012 09:03:13 -0000 6. Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) and Entropy Labels The LSP traceroute procedures of [RFC4379] allow an ingress LSR to obtain label ranges that can be used to send packets on every path to the egress LSR. SB> I know this is what RFC4379 says, but I am concerned about SB> how well this work in practical applications. SB> What you are asking the LSR to do is to invert the hash and SB> return the set of ranges that it will sent down each path. SB> Depending on the hash this could be a very large response. SB> In the pathological case this could be 10^6/(ECMP splits) SB> returned values. It works by having ingress LSR sequentially ask the transit LSRs along a particular path to a given egress LSR to return a label range such that the inclusion of a label in that range in a packet will cause the replying transit LSR to send that packet out the egress interface for that path. SB> Again help me to understand this. Depending on the hash and SB> depolarization constants it seems to me that you could have SB> to try all of the ranges returned from the first hop before SB> you get to a value that causes the packet to go down the path SB> you need to use in the last hop. In the pathological case SB> (and remember the hash is not defined) that could require SB> testing 10^6 label values. The ingress provides the label range returned by transit LSR N to transit LSR N + 1, which returns a label range which is less than or equal in span to the range provided to it. This process iterates until the penultimate transit LSR replies to the ingress LSR with a label range that is acceptable to it and to all LSRs along path preceding it for forwarding a packet along the path. SB> This is not clear to me, it depends on the hash. If the hash SB> simply chops the label range up into ranges and allocates SB> sequential groups, that would work. However the hash is not SB> defined, and could be somewhat crypto like (indeed I would SB> hope it was to extract maximum entropy from the labels SB> which would tend to be systematically allocated). In the SB> latter case, I am not sure that you could trace the path SB> within the stability interval of the network. However, the LSP traceroute procedures do not specify where in the label stack the value from the label range is to be placed, whether deep packet inspection is allowed and if so, which keys and key values are to be used. This memo updates LSP traceroute by specifying that the value from the label range is to be placed in the entropy label. Deep packet inspection is thus not necessary, although an LSR may use it, provided it do so consistently, i.e., if the label range to go to a given downstream LSR is computed with deep packet inspection, then the data path should use the same approach and the same keys. SB> That would allow you to get a TR to go the way you wanted, although SB> it is not obvious to me that you can easily map this to the path SB> of a data packet, or an IP ping being carried between the two SB> PEs. In order to have a BFD session on a given path, a value from the label range for that path should be used as the EL value for BFD packets sent on that path. SB> Again I am concerned that you are making a number of assumptions SB> here about the ECMP behaviour of the P routers and in SB> particular their hash function and hash function input SB> parameters. It maybe that I am misunderstanding things here, but I am not convinced that this provides the required functionality when deployed across a network with the currently deployed LSRs. - Stewart From loa@pi.nu Sun Jun 10 23:20:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F89321F8484 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:20:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SkkzgnFF6So7 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:20:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D681E21F849A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6FF92A8004; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:20:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:20:35 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv@tools.ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:20:37 -0000 Working Group, this is to start a one week working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07. Bckground - the draft was passed working group last call in August last year, and it should from that perspective be OK to request publication. However; - it is a bit too long ago - after the wg last call a discussion, that did not really cause any changes to the draft, that generated great interest. The background was that for the 32-bit LSR-id an routeable IPv4 address has often been used in IPv4 networks. Thre were interest of using an routeabel IPv6 address for LSR-id in IPv6 networks. It was decided not to go down this path, since it would have huge impact on the LDP protocol itself and all the HW implementations. This working group last call is limited to the changes between version -06 and -07. Also since this draft was through wg last call before we explicitly started to poll for IPRs on our draft, we need to do that now. Listed authors need to make an explicit statement to the working group and working group chairs that all the IPRs they now of has been disclosed or that they are not aware of any IPRs Other working group members that har aware of IPRs should state so on the working group mailing list. This working group last call and IPR poll ends June 18th, 2012. /Loa for the mpls wg co-chairs -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com Sun Jun 10 23:26:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E2921F84FA for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:26:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tnuq8SdWHBDY for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021EF21F8470 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id q5B6Qfoj007315; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:26:42 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.64]) by eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) with mapi; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:26:39 -0400 From: Jeff Tantsura To: Loa Andersson Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:27:14 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 Thread-Index: Ac1HmyhGxjjYxZ8/TaGYHoqrqcg0+w== Message-ID: <2570A917-4933-4F82-8C91-A67FF37A8968@ericsson.com> References: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:26:50 -0000 Yes/support - stable and well written doc. Regards, Jeff On Jun 10, 2012, at 23:20, "Loa Andersson" wrote: > Working Group, >=20 > this is to start a one week working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07. >=20 > Bckground - the draft was passed working group last call in August > last year, and it should from that perspective be OK to request > publication. >=20 > However; >=20 > - it is a bit too long ago > - after the wg last call a discussion, that did not really cause any > changes to the draft, that generated great interest. > The background was that for the 32-bit LSR-id an routeable IPv4 > address has often been used in IPv4 networks. Thre were interest of > using an routeabel IPv6 address for LSR-id in IPv6 networks. > It was decided not to go down this path, since it would have huge > impact on the LDP protocol itself and all the HW implementations. >=20 > This working group last call is limited to the changes between version > -06 and -07. >=20 > Also since this draft was through wg last call before we explicitly > started to poll for IPRs on our draft, we need to do that now. >=20 > Listed authors need to make an explicit statement to the working group > and working group chairs that all the IPRs they now of has been > disclosed or that they are not aware of any IPRs >=20 > Other working group members that har aware of IPRs should state so on > the working group mailing list. >=20 > This working group last call and IPR poll ends June 18th, 2012. >=20 > /Loa > for the mpls wg co-chairs >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From lizhong.jin@zte.com.cn Mon Jun 11 01:55:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639BF21F8505 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:55:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.838 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.838 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE=0.76, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3J9faeCdzuog for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx5.zte.com.cn (mx6.zte.com.cn [95.130.199.165]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D4621F8554 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 01:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.30.17.99] by mx5.zte.com.cn with surfront esmtp id 28620806486374; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:53:54 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.30.3.21] by [192.168.168.15] with StormMail ESMTP id 52926.1933666294; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:55:39 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse02.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id q5B8tN9r097243; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:55:23 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from lizhong.jin@zte.com.cn) In-Reply-To: To: loa@pi.nu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Lizhong Jin Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:55:22 +0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.1FP4|July 25, 2010) at 2012-06-11 16:55:26, Serialize complete at 2012-06-11 16:55:26 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0031048F48257A1A_=" X-MAIL: mse02.zte.com.cn q5B8tN9r097243 Cc: mpls@ietf.org, ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int Subject: Re: [mpls] wg last call on ethernet-addressing drafts X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 08:55:47 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0031048F48257A1A_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi authors, I review draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing, and have two comments: 1. When advertising the MAC address in "Ethernet Interface Parameters" ADB, I think Interface Identifier TLV in "G-ACh Advertisement Protocol" ADB should also be carried. Is there any required relationship of "Lifetime" in the two ADBs, should be same? 2. For the "Ethernet Interface Parameters" application, is it allowed to apply GAP Request, Flush or Suppress message specified in [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv]? E.g, to use GAP Request to request MAC address. Hope to be more clear in Section 4. Thanks Lizhong > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 04:59:31 +0200 > From: Loa Andersson > To: "mpls@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team > > Subject: [mpls] wg last call on gach-adv and ethernet-addressing > drafts > Message-ID: <4FC58D13.6050803@pi.nu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Working Group, > > > This is to start a two week working group last call on two drafts: > > - draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv-02; and > - draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-01 > > Please send comments to the mpls working group list. > > The working group last call ends June 15, 2012. > > > Thanks, Loa > > (as MPLS WG co-chair) > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > > --=_alternative 0031048F48257A1A_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi authors,
I review draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing, and have two comments:
1. When advertising the MAC address in "Ethernet Interface Parameters" ADB, I think Interface Identifier TLV in "G-ACh Advertisement Protocol" ADB should also be carried. Is there any required relationship of "Lifetime" in the two ADBs, should be same?
2. For the "Ethernet Interface Parameters" application, is it allowed to apply GAP Request, Flush or Suppress message specified in [I-D.ietf-mpls-gach-adv]? E.g, to use GAP Request to request MAC address.

Hope to be more clear in Section 4.

Thanks
Lizhong

 
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> This is to start a two week working group last call on two drafts:
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> - draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv-02; and
> - draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-01
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> Please send comments to the mpls working group list.
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> The working group last call ends June 15, 2012.
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> Thanks, Loa
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> (as MPLS WG co-chair)
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> Loa Andersson                         email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com
> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager            loa@pi.nu
> Ericsson Inc                          phone: +46 10 717 52 13
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> --=_alternative 0031048F48257A1A_=-- From vishwas.ietf@gmail.com Mon Jun 11 09:13:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140D421F85DA for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:13:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RgU4x2pBoabb for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2846E21F859A for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obbeh20 with SMTP id eh20so9729839obb.31 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:13:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=MarV5g5AUrFn17119ooiqha2q5sxZbmxZeftajXJ33c=; b=P5arcrn9qJ11biyX24H5voANY2VQaoLQOG9pyx9IxeSu6BnNE7KNKd1l4YaPo18OvZ P7un9ePR3i0cjwqBKJZ/j+Dhofs/+PZmVU5bMCVtPtRyP9YVOnRUV1y0X9Zmo+9XZynM wM7V4DY2gDbyJJq/EDY36Mqn9ijE1qrx6LBksHxMdLaIsd+uCXIEHqyWymwk4VhVNRau 1aHMFLA3QkJIOGnXPWjmQUUaCjVdhVdgjKbGYbtODh7wsC+IziO1qizEmcNMeOLepEnU E6V/vRIim+39Cl4UhWzJDp312SftnLXazK38u85jXEqpbY6rhW4Byq50MsFD4Q8VUyiw J3LA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.18.137 with SMTP id w9mr16978257obd.75.1339431208623; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.214.33 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:13:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FD601DC.5050603@pi.nu> References: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> <4FD601DC.5050603@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:13:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Vishwas Manral To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043bdf32641d9004c234a1ef Cc: mpls@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, "draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:13:30 -0000 --f46d043bdf32641d9004c234a1ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Loa, There are no IPR that I know of directly related to this work. Thanks, Vishwas >> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Loa Andersson > > wrote: >> >> Working Group, >> >> this is to start a one week working group last call on >> draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07. >> >> Bckground - the draft was passed working group last call in August >> last year, and it should from that perspective be OK to request >> publication. >> >> However; >> >> - it is a bit too long ago >> - after the wg last call a discussion, that did not really cause any >> changes to the draft, that generated great interest. >> The background was that for the 32-bit LSR-id an routeable IPv4 >> address has often been used in IPv4 networks. Thre were interest of >> using an routeabel IPv6 address for LSR-id in IPv6 networks. >> It was decided not to go down this path, since it would have huge >> impact on the LDP protocol itself and all the HW implementations. >> >> This working group last call is limited to the changes between version >> -06 and -07. >> >> Also since this draft was through wg last call before we explicitly >> started to poll for IPRs on our draft, we need to do that now. >> >> Listed authors need to make an explicit statement to the working group >> and working group chairs that all the IPRs they now of has been >> disclosed or that they are not aware of any IPRs >> >> Other working group members that har aware of IPRs should state so on >> the working group mailing list. >> >> This working group last call and IPR poll ends June 18th, 2012. >> >> /Loa >> for the mpls wg co-chairs >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: >> loa.andersson@ericsson.com >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu >> >> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >> >> +46 767 72 92 13 >> _________________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/__listinfo/mpls >> >> >> >> > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > --f46d043bdf32641d9004c234a1ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Loa,

There are no IPR that I know of directly related to this wor= k.

Thanks,
Vishwas


On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu
<mailto:loa@pi.nu>= > wrote:

=A0 =A0Working Group,

=A0 =A0this is to start a one week working group last call on
=A0 =A0draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07.

=A0 =A0Bckground - the draft was passed working group last call in August<= br> =A0 =A0last year, and it should from that perspective be OK to request
=A0 =A0publication.

=A0 =A0However;

=A0 =A0- it is a bit too long ago
=A0 =A0- after the wg last call a discussion, that did not really cause an= y
=A0 =A0 =A0changes to the draft, that generated great interest.
=A0 =A0 =A0The background was that for the 32-bit LSR-id an routeable IPv4=
=A0 =A0 =A0address has often been used in IPv4 networks. Thre were interes= t of
=A0 =A0 =A0using an routeabel =A0IPv6 address for LSR-id in IPv6 networks.=
=A0 =A0 =A0It was decided not to go down this path, since it would have hu= ge
=A0 =A0 =A0impact on the LDP protocol itself and all the HW implementation= s.

=A0 =A0This working group last call is limited to the changes between vers= ion
=A0 =A0-06 and -07.

=A0 =A0Also since this draft was through wg last call before we explicitly=
=A0 =A0started to poll for IPRs on our draft, we need to do that now.

=A0 =A0Listed authors need to make an explicit statement to the working gr= oup
=A0 =A0and working group chairs that all the IPRs they now of has been
=A0 =A0disclosed or that they are not aware of any IPRs

=A0 =A0Other working group members that har aware of IPRs should state so = on
=A0 =A0the working group mailing list.

=A0 =A0This working group last call and IPR poll ends June 18th, 2012.

=A0 =A0/Loa
=A0 =A0for the mpls wg co-chairs


=A0 =A0--


=A0 =A0Loa Andersson =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 email= :
=A0 =A0loa= .andersson@ericsson.com <mailto:loa.andersson@ericsson.com>
=A0 =A0Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu <mailto:loa@pi.nu>

=A0 =A0Ericsson Inc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0pho= ne: +46 10 717 52 13
=A0 =A0<tel:%2B46%2010%20717%2052%2013>
=A0 =A0+46 767 72 92 13 <tel:%2B46%20767%2072%2092%2013>= ;
=A0 =A0_________________________________________________
=A0 =A0mpls mailing list
=A0 =A0mpls@ietf.org <mailto:mpls@ietf.o= rg>
=A0 =A0https://www.ietf.org/mailman/__listinfo/mpls
=A0 =A0<https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls>



--


Loa Andersson =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 email: loa.andersson@eri= csson.com
Sr Strategy and Standards Manager =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0loa@pi.nu
Ericsson Inc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0phone: +46 10 717 52 13
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 +46 767 72 92 13


--f46d043bdf32641d9004c234a1ef-- From agmalis@gmail.com Mon Jun 11 17:11:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CEC21F84FE for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:11:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hcjUBFAej5AP for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27EC421F83EF for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yhq56 with SMTP id 56so3568280yhq.31 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:11:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aHlP4xdkgI3xNW6SdicbXMNiZFW4owb1I9cGxHWl7Gk=; b=btNZ121hS9EaHMJeaVnpDjExKiDJxt1biIAQlFnUWakJU9LEPJl5acgAZvPhmpGKii eqljMq6QRhe+LEHloY6Rjxg6q3UELKjgEH6Nijtz/2cqY9ZTG3nmjih1dnDPleiOJ1J/ 8xbV4n+5egDmdWu0gQEewc+rARl4qunlRUVq6bjjsAraoaZynT6rcfZTQfrgFd+RHtx5 GVpONIEAMrSWP/Mu2V2o2fCN+jSTkNhg+kRGSsP9TyUq/yN2s7wdAglYWMY3lnVsg0Vf XyZw8da+m6UcemFUgxxMnV+gngN1curdNNANdjil7u+vBocq5rCLxELfV2o+EYHMZdG+ gPYw== Received: by 10.50.188.233 with SMTP id gd9mr7303448igc.73.1339459896299; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:11:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.64.77.78 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:11:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> References: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:11:16 +0900 Message-ID: To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:11:37 -0000 I've looked at the changes from -06 to -07 and they look fine for publicati= on. BTW to the WG - it's really easy to review the changes by using this URL: https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?difftype=3D--hwdiff&url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-l= dp-ipv6-07.txt Cheers, Andy On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > this is to start a one week working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07. > > Bckground - the draft was passed working group last call in August > last year, and it should from that perspective be OK to request > publication. > > However; > > - it is a bit too long ago > - after the wg last call a discussion, that did not really cause any > =A0changes to the draft, that generated great interest. > =A0The background was that for the 32-bit LSR-id an routeable IPv4 > =A0address has often been used in IPv4 networks. Thre were interest of > =A0using an routeabel =A0IPv6 address for LSR-id in IPv6 networks. > =A0It was decided not to go down this path, since it would have huge > =A0impact on the LDP protocol itself and all the HW implementations. > > This working group last call is limited to the changes between version > -06 and -07. > > Also since this draft was through wg last call before we explicitly > started to poll for IPRs on our draft, we need to do that now. > > Listed authors need to make an explicit statement to the working group > and working group chairs that all the IPRs they now of has been > disclosed or that they are not aware of any IPRs > > Other working group members that har aware of IPRs should state so on > the working group mailing list. > > This working group last call and IPR poll ends June 18th, 2012. > > /Loa > for the mpls wg co-chairs > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 email: loa.= andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0phone: +4= 6 10 717 52 13 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Jun 11 20:59:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211DF11E80A2; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:59:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3mG3FVxR7NdT; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52F711E8087; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:59:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.20 Message-ID: <20120612035958.11219.16258.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:59:58 -0700 Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design-02.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:59:59 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Gro= up of the IETF. Title : MPLS-TP Applicability; Use Cases and Design Author(s) : Luyuan Fang Nabil Bitar Raymond Zhang Masahiro DAIKOKU Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design-02.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2012-06-11 Abstract: This document provides applicability, use case studies and network design considerations for Multiprotocol Label Switching Transport profile (MPLS-TP). In the recent years, MPLS-TP has emerged as the technology of choice for the new generation of packet transport. Many service providers (SPs) are working to replace the legacy transport technologies, e.g. SONET/SDH, TDM, and ATM technologies, with MPLS-TP for packet transport, in order to achieve higher efficiency, lower operational cost, while maintaining transport characteristics. The use cases for MPLS-TP include Metro Ethernet access and aggregation, Mobile backhaul, and packet optical transport. The design considerations discussed in this documents ranging from operational experience; standards compliance; technology maturity; end-to-end forwarding and OAM consistency; compatibility with IP/MPLS networks; multi-vendor interoperability; and optimization vs. simplicity design trade off discussion. The general design principle is to provide reliable, manageable, and scalable transport solutions. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/submission.filename }}-02 A diff from previous version is available at: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-desig= n-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Mon Jun 11 21:16:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A3511E8091 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:16:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.363 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.363 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.237, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wpn-52UOdh+U for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3ED611E8087 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id B695DB1E003; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:16:08 -0700 (PDT) To: Kam.Lam@Alcatel-Lucent.com, Scott.Mansfield@Ericsson.com, Kam.Lam@Alcatel-Lucent.com, stbryant@cisco.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, loa@pi.nu, swallow@cisco.com, rcallon@juniper.net From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20120612041608.B695DB1E003@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5951 (3254) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:16:16 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5951, "Network Management Requirements for MPLS-based Transport Networks". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5951&eid=3254 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Adrian Farrel Section: 6.3 Original Text ------------- 1) In addition to the requirement to support static provisioning of transport paths (defined in RFC 5645 [7], Section 2.1 Corrected Text -------------- 1) In addition to the requirement to support static provisioning of transport paths (defined in RFC 5654 [7], Section 2.1 Notes ----- Digits in RFC number transposed Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC5951 (draft-ietf-mpls-tp-nm-req-06) -------------------------------------- Title : Network Management Requirements for MPLS-based Transport Networks Publication Date : September 2010 Author(s) : K. Lam, S. Mansfield, E. Gray Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Multiprotocol Label Switching Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From loa@pi.nu Mon Jun 11 21:35:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A5521F8523 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:35:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zzHnOyGuIV+U for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD3321F8512 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C02412A8004; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 06:35:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FD6C6F0.3000701@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 06:34:56 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:35:18 -0000 Working Group and authors; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to be sent to working group last call. Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Loa (as MPLS WG co-chair) -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From lufang@cisco.com Mon Jun 11 21:41:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3449911E808C for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:41:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PjuLAbr1LoXo for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25B811E8087 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:41:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=lufang@cisco.com; l=1954; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1339476100; x=1340685700; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date: message-id:in-reply-to:references:from:to:cc; bh=lehKcV3Q45YDNyT6QBz2TzxgfOY9YG3yd3N/2EprazI=; b=HA3W0wINUHm8QDArVx88vbLSqq+xXnvK/13d4GE5dey+dsfsqWSZMAAw 2qRURHpgTPCzOvsQZo0LxoLD6Rzayay4ZZjsLX+cVOdiL/H0pX9tjUjC1 85AkihFiMHOCpQai/4TFOBQUwtFHpE2CIEc4ZMfLO4smUPidhFHeaK9q/ M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFANfH1k+tJV2Z/2dsb2JhbABFtR2BB4IYAQEBAwEBAQEPAR0KNAYFBQcCAgIBCBEEAQELBhcBBgEaDB8JCAEBBAESCBqHZAULmH+fawQEix+FMWADiECadIFmgn6BQQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,753,1330905600"; d="scan'208";a="91561031" Received: from rcdn-core-2.cisco.com ([173.37.93.153]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2012 04:41:40 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com [72.163.62.200]) by rcdn-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5C4feP2019833; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:41:40 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-201.cisco.com ([72.163.62.208]) by xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:41:40 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 23:41:35 -0500 Message-ID: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095446B8@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD6C6F0.3000701@pi.nu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design thread-index: Ac1IVMnjz5c+o7FITyGPtm3RGuCWzAAAHUXA References: <4FD6C6F0.3000701@pi.nu> From: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" To: "Loa Andersson" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2012 04:41:40.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[A88D1250:01CD4855] Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 04:41:42 -0000 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? No. Thanks, Luyuan > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and- > design@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design >=20 > Working Group and authors; >=20 > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to > be sent to working group last call. >=20 > Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there > is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. >=20 > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of > any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >=20 > Thanks, Loa > (as MPLS WG co-chair) >=20 > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From cpignata@cisco.com Mon Jun 11 22:11:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F21E21F857D for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:11:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oyMfLhEb6o1y for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7263C21F8555 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:11:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=cpignata@cisco.com; l=2111; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1339477873; x=1340687473; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=7SgIwDR65BzryO6suP/hG1Aqp7A6yCqzIB+D1zzds7o=; b=C8HE+2WDL+a9Y/d7eGxNLxICcZ3mNAL14U0UYY1bgeug8juxJWD9JL8Y ZApbrCq1/lJmnjH2WEDgr4mlMPHTx0wINSr+9sKSFuJuVnyyoow2z0nd3 B6CZytIYdw389MHwahJcJ3zfkuoJK/umtIOtklByeEkxjfz6q+O7a9fcn 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EAA7P1k+tJV2c/2dsb2JhbABFtR+BB4IYAQEBAwEBAQEPASc0CwUJAgIBCDYQGwwLJQIEDgUih2QFC5kAn2sEBIsfFIUdYAOVH44VgWaCYIFWCQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,753,1330905600"; d="scan'208";a="91611855" Received: from rcdn-core-5.cisco.com ([173.37.93.156]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Jun 2012 05:11:13 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com [173.36.12.88]) by rcdn-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5C5BCGE012771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:11:12 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([169.254.5.100]) by xhc-aln-x14.cisco.com ([173.36.12.88]) with mapi id 14.02.0283.003; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:11:12 -0500 From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" To: Loa Andersson Thread-Topic: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 Thread-Index: AQHNR5pbpHts/BfI20mTjRCwahGmr5b2JFzt Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:11:12 +0000 Message-ID: References: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-18964.004 x-tm-as-result: No--44.184500-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 05:11:15 -0000 Thank you, Loa.=20 I am not aware of any IPR relevant to this I-D Thumb typed by Carlos Pignataro. Excuze typofraphicak errows On Jun 10, 2012, at 11:20 PM, "Loa Andersson" wrote: > Working Group, >=20 > this is to start a one week working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07. >=20 > Bckground - the draft was passed working group last call in August > last year, and it should from that perspective be OK to request > publication. >=20 > However; >=20 > - it is a bit too long ago > - after the wg last call a discussion, that did not really cause any > changes to the draft, that generated great interest. > The background was that for the 32-bit LSR-id an routeable IPv4 > address has often been used in IPv4 networks. Thre were interest of > using an routeabel IPv6 address for LSR-id in IPv6 networks. > It was decided not to go down this path, since it would have huge > impact on the LDP protocol itself and all the HW implementations. >=20 > This working group last call is limited to the changes between version > -06 and -07. >=20 > Also since this draft was through wg last call before we explicitly > started to poll for IPRs on our draft, we need to do that now. >=20 > Listed authors need to make an explicit statement to the working group > and working group chairs that all the IPRs they now of has been > disclosed or that they are not aware of any IPRs >=20 > Other working group members that har aware of IPRs should state so on > the working group mailing list. >=20 > This working group last call and IPR poll ends June 18th, 2012. >=20 > /Loa > for the mpls wg co-chairs >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >=20 From muly_i@rad.com Tue Jun 12 06:36:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1696F21F8592 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 06:36:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.462 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yjEmjeWp7jSW for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 06:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rad.co.il (mailrelay01.rad.co.il [62.0.23.252]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33F221F8532 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 06:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by MailRelay01 (envelope-from muly?i@rad.com) with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Jun 2012 16:17:39 +0300 Received: from EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il ([192.114.24.28]) by EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il ([192.114.24.28]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 16:36:12 +0300 From: Muly Ilan To: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Comments to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03 Thread-Index: Ac1IoFO7IWKTJMD2SICoICVQM9aplA== Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:36:12 +0000 Message-ID: <32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C249E@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> Accept-Language: en-AU, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.17.170.136] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C249EEXRAD5adradcoil_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Commtouch-Refid: str=0001.0A0B020A.4FD745CD.021D,ss=1,fgs=0 Subject: [mpls] Comments to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:36:20 -0000 --_000_32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C249EEXRAD5adradcoil_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, It seems that the case of associated bidirectional LSPs is not fully covere= d by the current draft. According to the MPLS-TP OAM framework, in this case two independent unidir= ectional MEs should be defined to independently monitor each direction. 1. It would be helpful if there was an indication in the mplsOamIdMeT= able whether the ME is uni or bi directional. 2. For associated bidirectional LSPs there are two separate entries i= n the mplsTunnelTable. Thus, the mplsOamIdMeServicePointer of each of the u= nidirectional MEs shall point to its relevant entry i.e. to the forward or = the reverse tunnel entry. This is another reason to keep the pointer in the= ME table and not in the MEG table. The description of mplsOamIdMeServicePo= inter should be expanded. 3. A proactive OAM session would utilize both MEs (one ME for transmi= ssion of OAM packets and the other for reception). This can be indicated by= having the same value of mplsOamIdMeProactiveOamSessIndex. Its worth notin= g it in the description of mplsOamIdMeProactiveOamSessIndex. Regards, Muly --_000_32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C249EEXRAD5adradcoil_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

It seems that the case of associated bidirectional L= SPs is not fully covered by the current draft.

According to the MPLS-TP OAM framework, in this case= two independent unidirectional MEs should be defined to independently moni= tor each direction.

 

1.     &= nbsp; It would be helpful if the= re was an indication in the mplsOamIdMeTable whether the ME is uni or bi di= rectional.

2.     &= nbsp; For associated bidirection= al LSPs there are two separate entries in the mplsTunnelTable. Thus, the mp= lsOamIdMeServicePointer of each of the unidirectional MEs shall point to it= s relevant entry i.e. to the forward or the reverse tunnel entry. This is another reason to keep the pointer in= the ME table and not in the MEG table. The description of mplsOamIdMeServi= cePointer should be expanded.

3.     &= nbsp; A proactive OAM session wo= uld utilize both MEs (one ME for transmission of OAM packets and the other = for reception). This can be indicated by having the same value of mplsOamId= MeProactiveOamSessIndex. Its worth noting it in the description of mplsOamIdMeProactiveOamSessIndex.

 

Regards,

 

Muly

--_000_32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C249EEXRAD5adradcoil_-- From mustapha.aissaoui@alcatel-lucent.com Tue Jun 12 07:16:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2084B21F8623 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:16:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FpqO2tvLLGrB for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail4.lucent.com (ihemail4.lucent.com [135.245.0.39]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF7B21F85CD for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.9]) by ihemail4.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id q5CEGaDZ025920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:16:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from USNAVSXCHHUB02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsxchhub02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.111]) by usnavsmail1.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id q5CEGZ3x005405 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:16:36 -0500 Received: from USNAVSXCHMBSC2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.3.39.145]) by USNAVSXCHHUB02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.3.39.111]) with mapi; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:16:35 -0500 From: "Aissaoui, Mustapha (Mustapha)" To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:16:34 -0500 Thread-Topic: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 Thread-Index: Ac1HmljznUyESw72Q6unCMPP2wK6jAAU7uyg Message-ID: <5DF53972F7E9134782DCE51624466FE50BD73F76E0@USNAVSXCHMBSC2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.39 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 135.3.39.9 Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:16:42 -0000 Hi Loa, I raised a couple of major issues with this draft and proposed a solution t= o address them. I have discussed these at length with the authors on this m= ailing list but it does not seem we are making any progress to address it.= =20 I have summarized the issues below as well as a possible solution. Since th= es issues cause backward compatibility with RFC 5036, I do not believe we c= an publish the draft in its current version. Regards, Mustapha. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Issues in draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6: 1. Current version of LDP IPv6 draft mandates maintaining a Hello adjacency= for each of IPv4 and IPv6 over a dual-stack interface between two LSRs but= will bootstrap a single LDP session (IPv4 or IPv6). RFC 5036 allows bootst= rapping of an IPv6 session by an IPv6 Hello adjacency OR bootstrapping of a= n IPv4 LDP session by an IPv4 Hello Adjacency over the same IP interface.=20 The proposal in this draft doubles number of Hello adjacencies and breaks b= ackward compatibility with RFC 5036 for no gain.=20 2. Current version of LDP IPv6 draft ties the FEC types resolved over a giv= en interface to the type of adjacency. This violates RFC 5036 which allows = any FEC type (unicast IPv4, unicast IPv6, mLDP p2mp FEC, PW FEC) over an in= terface regardless of the Hello adjacency is IPv4 or IPv6. A Hello adjacenc= y over a link is an assertion that a link is associated with the LDP sessio= n with the peer, meaning FECs exchanged over the session can be programmed = over those links, and nothing else. The control of which FEC type is resolv= ed over which interface is controlled via LDP capability and/or LDP FEC pol= icies. 3. There is no need to maintain two link Hello adjacencies over the same in= terface for resolving an IPv4 or an IPv6 FEC. We just published a draft to = specify LDP adjacency capability negotiation. This is the correct way to co= ntrol which FECs can be resolved to a link such that we can keep IPv6 and I= Pv4 FEC resolution compatible with RFC 5036 in the case of dual-stack inter= faces: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-pdutta-mpls-ldp-adj-capability-00.txt =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa= Andersson Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:21 AM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv@tools.ietf.= org Subject: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 Working Group, this is to start a one week working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-= ipv6-07. Bckground - the draft was passed working group last call in August last yea= r, and it should from that perspective be OK to request publication. However; - it is a bit too long ago - after the wg last call a discussion, that did not really cause any changes to the draft, that generated great interest. The background was that for the 32-bit LSR-id an routeable IPv4 address has often been used in IPv4 networks. Thre were interest of using an routeabel IPv6 address for LSR-id in IPv6 networks. It was decided not to go down this path, since it would have huge impact on the LDP protocol itself and all the HW implementations. This working group last call is limited to the changes between version -06 and -07. Also since this draft was through wg last call before we explicitly started= to poll for IPRs on our draft, we need to do that now. Listed authors need to make an explicit statement to the working group and = working group chairs that all the IPRs they now of has been disclosed or th= at they are not aware of any IPRs Other working group members that har aware of IPRs should state so on the w= orking group mailing list. This working group last call and IPR poll ends June 18th, 2012. /Loa for the mpls wg co-chairs --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 ____________= ___________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From aldrin.ietf@gmail.com Tue Jun 12 20:39:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A5711E8098 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:39:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sicWYBTkcigE for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8B511E808D for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so1695778pbc.31 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:39:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=+K4sI0OJtkXLvdK+n9u0FCd+Ryo89lr6Pu6apa1W1gg=; b=c31L3JZHzHL+UdzJGAAorci1+k6sg2W/gS7c6Hk3ObNhEYBs5jLvWI/wJXqcXY0ySY tM5Burz1w5HnDt93JmgBxTqIP6kPbhyArtUlrzbCD88sWD57oLgsY/Bw20OZL72S5P5c 0i4k/LhHCAUDm4D6+iTGHtDY36ztw0f74ttv3T3ojzBldEQ+n8qZXDucUbprGEoIVEss 4RlJU4DlqS5Sn7SLDdYQru6DJnFT+JiXfN99G3dSK8VaWJ8pxE2yF8ZW/BKh7Wtos8W0 VQ6pBh54Zm+DuJtM57oTs39iM7SfWjJ6zprSvpUI6XSkvOE0iDTq/u+ou8oT8lCRdsX7 09bw== Received: by 10.68.129.198 with SMTP id ny6mr45053807pbb.22.1339558740577; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-107-3-156-34.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [107.3.156.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jv6sm4207342pbc.40.2012.06.12.20.38.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_823B18B9-FC02-4FDC-A4AD-35BE13AB1929" From: Sam Aldrin In-Reply-To: <32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C249E@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:38:57 -0700 Message-Id: <9C859F03-7197-40A6-86D9-B00D309B653D@gmail.com> References: <32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C249E@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> To: Muly Ilan X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Comments to draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 03:39:01 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_823B18B9-FC02-4FDC-A4AD-35BE13AB1929 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Muly, Thanks for the email. Please see inline for my comments. -sam On Jun 12, 2012, at 6:36 AM, Muly Ilan wrote: > Hi, > =20 > It seems that the case of associated bidirectional LSPs is not fully = covered by the current draft. > According to the MPLS-TP OAM framework, in this case two independent = unidirectional MEs should be defined to independently monitor each = direction. > =20 > 1. It would be helpful if there was an indication in the = mplsOamIdMeTable whether the ME is uni or bi directional. %sam - Sure thing. We should be able to add a new object to indicate = that, in the next version. > 2. For associated bidirectional LSPs there are two separate = entries in the mplsTunnelTable. Thus, the mplsOamIdMeServicePointer of = each of the unidirectional MEs shall point to its relevant entry i.e. to = the forward or the reverse tunnel entry. This is another reason to keep = the pointer in the ME table and not in the MEG table. The description of = mplsOamIdMeServicePointer should be expanded. %sam - We make/add appropriate changes to the description. > 3. A proactive OAM session would utilize both MEs (one ME for = transmission of OAM packets and the other for reception). This can be = indicated by having the same value of mplsOamIdMeProactiveOamSessIndex. = Its worth noting it in the description of = mplsOamIdMeProactiveOamSessIndex. %sam - Will fix the description. > =20 > Regards, > =20 > Muly > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --Apple-Mail=_823B18B9-FC02-4FDC-A4AD-35BE13AB1929 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi Muly,

Thanks for the = email.
Please see inline for my = comments.

-sam
On Jun 12, 2012, at = 6:36 AM, Muly Ilan wrote:

Hi,
 
It seems that the case of = associated bidirectional LSPs is not fully covered by the current = draft.
According to the MPLS-TP OAM framework, in this = case two independent unidirectional MEs should be defined to = independently monitor each direction.
 
       It would be helpful if there was an indication in the = mplsOamIdMeTable whether the ME is uni or bi = directional.
%sam - Sure thing. We = should be able to add a new object to indicate that, in the next = version.
2. For associated bidirectional LSPs there are two = separate entries in the mplsTunnelTable. Thus, the = mplsOamIdMeServicePointer of each of the unidirectional MEs shall point = to its relevant entry i.e. to the forward or the reverse tunnel entry. = This is another reason to keep the pointer in the ME table and not in = the MEG table. The description of mplsOamIdMeServicePointer should be = expanded.
%sam - We make/add = appropriate changes to the description.
3. A proactive OAM session would utilize both MEs (one = ME for transmission of OAM packets and the other for reception). This = can be indicated by having the same value of = mplsOamIdMeProactiveOamSessIndex. Its worth noting it in the description = of = mplsOamIdMeProactiveOamSessIndex.
%sa= m - Will fix the description.
 
 
Muly
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, Thomas Nadeau , venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com, Ross Callon Subject: Re: [mpls] MIB Dr. Review: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-te-mib-03.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 04:01:15 -0000 Hi Joan, Thank you for the detailed review. Appreciate that very much. Please find my comments inline with %sam. -sam On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Joan Cucchiara wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > This document is clearly written and the examples are great! Thanks = for that! >=20 > Review is divided into sections. General Comments are followed by = specific sections. > The MIB Modules were compiled by smiLint and results are in each MIB = Modules' > section. There are some warnings, but think these should be fixed. >=20 > My major concern is contained in the General Comments section below. >=20 > Thanks, > -Joan >=20 >=20 > General Comments > ----------------- >=20 > Major concern: >=20 > I would like to express that I can see why the MIB Modules > are designed as they are. Namely, so mplsTunnelTable (in rfc3812) > can be used for MPLS-TP Tunnels also. I do see there is likely to > be value in doing that. However, my concern is that > the semantic definition of two indices for mplsTunnelTable > (mplsTunnelIngressLSRId, mplsTunnelEgressLSRId) > are being semantically redefined in the MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB, and this > breaks the rules of the SMI and there is a chance that legacy > implementations could be jeopardized. >=20 > The index being proposed is: mplsNodeConfigLocalId >=20 > mplsNodeConfigLocalId OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX MplsLocalId > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This object allows the administrator to assign a unique > local identifier to map Global_Node_ID or ICC." > ::=3D { mplsNodeConfigEntry 1 } >=20 > Where the TC MplsLocalId is: >=20 > MplsLocalId ::=3D TEXTUAL-CONVENTION > DISPLAY-HINT "d" > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This textual convention is used in accommodating the bigger > size Global_Node_ID and/or ICC with lower size LSR > identifier in order to index the mplsTunnelTable. >=20 > The Local Identifier is configured between 1 and 16777215, > as valid IP address range starts from 16777216(01.00.00.00). > This range is chosen to identify the mplsTunnelTable's > Ingress/Egress LSR-id is IP address or Local identifier, > if the configured range is not IP address, administrator is > expected to retrieve the complete information > (Global_Node_ID or ICC) from mplsNodeConfigTable. This way, > existing mplsTunnelTable is reused for bidirectional tunnel > extensions for MPLS based transport networks. >=20 > This Local Identifier allows the administrator to assign > a unique identifier to map Global_Node_ID and/or ICC." > SYNTAX Unsigned32(1..16777215) >=20 >=20 >=20 > The MPLS-TE-STD-MIB (rfc3812) and the MPLS-TC-STD-MIB (rfc3811) > have described the MplsExtendedTunnelId as: >=20 > MplsTunnelEntry ::=3D SEQUENCE { > ..... > mplsTunnelIngressLSRId MplsExtendedTunnelId, > mplsTunnelEgressLSRId MplsExtendedTunnelId, >=20 >=20 >=20 > mplsTunnelIngressLSRId OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX MplsExtendedTunnelId > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Identity of the ingress LSR associated with this > tunnel instance. When the MPLS signalling protocol > is rsvp(2) this value SHOULD be equal to the Tunnel > Sender Address in the Sender Template object and MAY > be equal to the Extended Tunnel Id field in the > SESSION object. When the MPLS signalling protocol is > crldp(3) this value SHOULD be equal to the Ingress > LSR Router ID field in the LSPID TLV object." > REFERENCE > "1. RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels, > Awduche et al, RFC 3209, December 2001 > 2. Constraint-Based LSP Setup using LDP, Jamoussi > (Editor), RFC 3212, January 2002" > ::=3D { mplsTunnelEntry 3 } >=20 > mplsTunnelEgressLSRId OBJECT-TYPE > SYNTAX MplsExtendedTunnelId > MAX-ACCESS not-accessible > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "Identity of the egress LSR associated with this > tunnel instance." > ::=3D { mplsTunnelEntry 4 } >=20 >=20 > The TC from MPLS-TC-STD-MIB (rfc3811) is: > MplsExtendedTunnelId ::=3D TEXTUAL-CONVENTION > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "A unique identifier for an MPLS Tunnel. This may > represent an IPv4 address of the ingress or egress > LSR for the tunnel. This value is derived from the > Extended Tunnel Id in RSVP or the Ingress Router ID > for CR-LDP." > REFERENCE > "RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels, > [RFC3209]. >=20 > Constraint-Based LSP Setup using LDP, [RFC3212]." > SYNTAX Unsigned32(0..4294967295) >=20 >=20 > So, while I agree that mplsTunnelIngressLSRID and = mplsTunnelEgressLSRId > and mplsNodeConfigLocalId are all 32-bit values, the following 2 TCs = are not semantically the same: >=20 >=20 > MplsExtendedTunnelId ::=3D TEXTUAL-CONVENTION > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "A unique identifier for an MPLS Tunnel. This may > represent an IPv4 address of the ingress or egress > LSR for the tunnel. This value is derived from the > Extended Tunnel Id in RSVP or the Ingress Router ID > for CR-LDP." > REFERENCE > "RSVP-TE: Extensions to RSVP for LSP Tunnels, > [RFC3209]. >=20 > Constraint-Based LSP Setup using LDP, [RFC3212]." > SYNTAX Unsigned32(0..4294967295) >=20 > MplsLocalId ::=3D TEXTUAL-CONVENTION > DISPLAY-HINT "d" > STATUS current > DESCRIPTION > "This textual convention is used in accommodating the bigger > size Global_Node_ID and/or ICC with lower size LSR > identifier in order to index the mplsTunnelTable. >=20 > The Local Identifier is configured between 1 and 16777215, > as valid IP address range starts from 16777216(01.00.00.00). > This range is chosen to identify the mplsTunnelTable's > Ingress/Egress LSR-id is IP address or Local identifier, > if the configured range is not IP address, administrator is > expected to retrieve the complete information > (Global_Node_ID or ICC) from mplsNodeConfigTable. This way, > existing mplsTunnelTable is reused for bidirectional tunnel > extensions for MPLS based transport networks. >=20 > This Local Identifier allows the administrator to assign > a unique identifier to map Global_Node_ID and/or ICC." > SYNTAX Unsigned32(1..16777215) >=20 > Therefore, I believe this is a semantic redefinition and could = potentially cause > issues for some legacy implementations. %sam - Very good point. Thinking more about it, we should be able to use = mplsExtendedTunnelId itself, instead of mplsLocalId. As the = mplsExtendedTunnelId could have IP address or LSR identifier, we should = just use it as LSR identifier. Instead of specifying or mandating what = the identifier should be, we should leave as implementation specific, = when used for identifying Egress and Egress LSR's.=20 Having said that, we could still provide text with guidance, like we did = to describe what LocalId is and how it is derived to identify Egress and = Ingress LSR's for TP tunnels. At the end of the day, the Egress LSR and = Ingress LSR identifiers should be unique, for a TP tunnel, on a given = LSR (based on GlobalID etc). We will reword the text and make appropriate changes to reflect the = same. This will ensure the semantics are not redefined and legacy = implementations are nor broken. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > *) There were some warning generated by smiLint that should probably > be fixed (please see individual MIB Modules discussion below.) >=20 %Sam - nod. >=20 >=20 >=20 > *) MIB should be capitalized consistently. Sometimes mib is used, so > please use capitals. %sam - nod >=20 >=20 > *) There are 4 MIB Modules in this document which pertain to > MPLS-TP. The proposal is to root them under mplsStdMIB. > This has not been the convention for sometime. However, if the > authors feel strongly about using mplsStdMIB, then please let me > know. %sam - we went back and forth on this, amongst ourselves and gotten some = feed back from WG chairs and others as well. Essentially, MPLS-TP is = MPLS, so, we shouldn't be defining it as MPLS-TP. So, all the changes or = extensions we are proposing are not just for MPLS-TP but MPLS in = general. In the future, we should be able to use these extensions not = only for TP tunnels, but other types, which we already foresee = happening. This was the primary reason for not forking out MPLS-TP = specific MIB's, rather re-use and hang off of existing MPLS MIB's. Does that answer your concern? >=20 >=20 >=20 > *) The word "traps" appears as a MIB comment in the MIB Modules. = Please either remove > the comment or use the notifications where appropriate. Traps are a = SNMPv1 > mechanism. %sam - nod >=20 >=20 > *) MIB Guidelines suggest naming conventions to be used > within a MIB Module (for tables, rows and objects within a row), > This was not followed in these MIB Modules. As an example: >=20 > MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB has the following table names: >=20 > mplsNodeConfigTable > mplsNodeIpMapTable > mplsNodeIccMapTable > mplsTunnelExtTable >=20 > This is also the case in the other MIB Module(s). Please take a look > at Appendix C of the MIB Guidelines (rfc4181). %sam - nod. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Section 4. Motivations > ---------------------- > Awkward. Section doesn't specify motivations, expect something > like, This document provides a MIB Module which supports > configuration of .... and monitoring of ....etc. %sam - nod. >=20 >=20 > Section 7. MIB Module Interdependencies >=20 >=20 > How is this possible, since MPLS-TE-STD-MIB was defined so long ago? >=20 > .. - MPLS-TE-STD-MIB [RFC3812] contains references to objects = in > MPLS-ID-STD-MIB. %sam - it is a mistake. will fix it. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > MPLS-TC-EXT-STD-MIB > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D >=20 > *) The name of this MIB Module is misleading. > The TCs defined are specific to MPLS-TP so could this name > be more specific, for example, MPLS-TP-TC-STD-MIB ? %sam - same reasoning given above. We want to keep MIB generic and not = TP specific. This was the guidance we got, to remove 'TP', as we had = 'TP' in every object as well.=20 >=20 > *) These TCs should have references. They are > originally defined elsewhere, so why aren't their references? >=20 %sam - will add. >=20 >=20 >=20 > *) MplsNodeId >=20 > DESCRIPTION > ...LSR's /32 IPv4 loopback address >=20 > What is meant by /32 ? %sam - :-). will fix it. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > MPLS-ID-STD-MIB > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D >=20 > SMILINT > ------- >=20 > mibs/MPLS-ID-STD-MIB:70: [5] {identifier-external-case-match} warning: = identifier `mplsGlobalId' differs from = `MPLS-TC-EXT-STD-MIB::MplsGlobalId' only in case > mibs/MPLS-TC-EXT-STD-MIB:61: [6] {previous-definition} info: previous = definition of `MplsGlobalId' > mibs/MPLS-ID-STD-MIB:94: [5] {identifier-external-case-match} warning: = identifier `mplsNodeId' differs from `MPLS-TC-EXT-STD-MIB::MplsNodeId' = only in case > mibs/MPLS-TC-EXT-STD-MIB:88: [6] {previous-definition} info: previous = definition of `MplsNodeId' >=20 > mibs/MPLS-ID-STD-MIB:4: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier = `NOTIFICATION-TYPE' imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI' is never used > mibs/MPLS-ID-STD-MIB:6: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier = `NOTIFICATION-GROUP' imported from module `SNMPv2-CONF' is never used >=20 %sam - nod. >=20 >=20 >=20 > MPLS-LSR-EXT-MIB > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > *) The name of this MIB Module is too broad because MIB Module > is specific to MPLS-TP, so something like MPLS-TP-LSR-EXT-MIB > would be more appropriate IMHO. %sam - same reasons given above. >=20 > *) Is mplsXCExtTunnelPointer supposed to be read-only? > The DESCRIPTION seems to indicate read-create? > (leads to following question regarding compliance stmts....) >=20 %sam - will fix it. Initially we had it as read create. >=20 > *) The FullCompliance and ReadOnlyCompliance > are confusing. Why does the mplsXCExtTunnelPointer object > appear in both? >=20 %sam - will fix it. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > MPLS-TE-EXT-MIB > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=20 > SMILINT > mibs/MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB:22: [4] {module-identity-registration} = warning: uncontrolled IETF module identity registration > mibs/MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB:4: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier = `Unsigned32' imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI' is never used > mibs/MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB:5: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier = `Gauge32' imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI' is never used > mibs/MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB:5: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier = `NOTIFICATION-TYPE' imported from module `SNMPv2-SMI' is never used > mibs/MPLS-TE-EXT-STD-MIB:9: [5] {import-unused} warning: identifier = `NOTIFICATION-GROUP' imported from module `SNMPv2-CONF' is never used >=20 >=20 > *) Warnings of severity [5] should be fixed. %sam - nod >=20 >=20 > *) The name of this MIB Module is too broad also. MIB is specific > to MPLS-TP and the name of the MIB Module should reflect that. > One example is, MPLS-TP-TE-EXT-MIB. %sam - same reasons given above. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From ms-daikoku@kddi.com Tue Jun 12 23:52:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FE521F8620 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:52:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.399 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_22=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_39=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P6hhdR6rZXao for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UTMC1104.kddi.com (athena.kddi.com [210.141.112.39]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C6721F8625 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from UTMC1134 (unknown [10.5.16.201]) by UTMC1104.kddi.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CFE3E2A16; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:52:32 +0900 (JST) Received: from UTMC1122.kddi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.kddi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38198A5E0; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:52:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from LTMC1005.kddi.com (unknown [10.5.16.216]) by UTMC1122.kddi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C0EA5D5; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:52:20 +0900 (JST) Received: from LTMC1005.kddi.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by LTMC1005.kddi.com with ESMTP id q5D6qKTJ011845; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:52:20 +0900 Received: from LTMC1005.kddi.com.mid_7511106 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by LTMC1005.kddi.com with ESMTP id q5D6nx8E010591; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:49:59 +0900 Received: from KDDI-0803PC0021 ([10.200.131.200] [10.200.131.200]) by post-zip.kddi.com with ESMTPA; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:49:59 +0900 To: loa@pi.nu From: Masahiro DAIKOKU Message-Id: <201206131549.CGB48973.tNVEPTBJLL@kddi.com> X-Mailer: Winbiff [Version 2.51 PL4] X-Accept-Language: ja,en,zh Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:49:52 +0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-SA-MID: 7511106 X-WAuditID: 1206131552210020427381 Cc: mpls@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: ms-daikoku@kddi.com List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 06:52:43 -0000 Dear Loa Andersson , Sorry for not getting back to you soon. > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? 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Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:01:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.395 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.395 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.204, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EK8WKrQ5F+8c; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF60121F850B; Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:01:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: IETF Secretariat To: jdrake@juniper.net, kireeti@juniper.net, shane@level3.net, wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com, lucy.yong@huawei.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.20 Message-ID: <20120613220105.4652.71767.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 15:01:05 -0700 Cc: mpls@ietf.org, rcallon@juniper.net, ipr-announce@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] IPR Disclosure: Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 22:01:06 -0000 Dear John Drake, Kireeti Kompella, Shane Amante, Wim Henderickx, Lucy Yong: An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "The Use of Entropy Labels in MPLS Forwarding" (draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label) was subm= itted to the IETF Secretariat on 2012-06-13 and has been posted on the "IETF Page= of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1797/). The title of the IPR disclosure is "Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03.""); The IETF Secretariat From rcallon@juniper.net Thu Jun 14 08:39:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C230321F86F9 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:39:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X-xCLxSiQT6q for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:39:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og101.obsmtp.com (exprod7og101.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.155]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84E121F86E4 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob101.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT9oFuH3AiWwpE9U8y9hc6evk40OgumWi@postini.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:39:36 PDT Received: from P-CLDFE01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.59) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:31:33 -0700 Received: from p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.25) by p-cldfe01-hq.jnpr.net (172.24.192.59) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:31:33 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::c126:c633:d2dc:8090%11]) with mapi; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:31:32 -0400 From: Ross Callon To: "'mpls@ietf.org'" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:31:30 -0400 Thread-Topic: WG last call on draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03 Thread-Index: Ac1KQsVGDx8a5azLRhOz/KpWme3OhA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C7117E47B5EMBX01WFjnprn_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [mpls] WG last call on draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:39:37 -0000 --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C7117E47B5EMBX01WFjnprn_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Working Group; This is to start a two week working group last call on: - draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03 Please send comments to the mpls working group list. The working group last call ends June 28, 2012. Also, please note that there was an IPR disclosure on this document sent to= the MPLS mailing list yesterday, with the subject line "IPR Disclosure: Ci= sco's Statement of IPR Related to draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03". Thanks, Ross (as MPLS WG co-chair) --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C7117E47B5EMBX01WFjnprn_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Working Group;
 
This is to start a two week working group last call on:
 
- draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03
 
Please send comments to the mpls working group list.
 
The working group last call ends June 28, 2012.
 
Also, please note that there was an IPR disclosure on this document se= nt to the MPLS mailing list yesterday, with the subject line “IPR Dis= closure: Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-= 03”.
 
Thanks, Ross
(as MPLS WG co-chair)
 
 
 --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C7117E47B5EMBX01WFjnprn_-- From lufang@cisco.com Thu Jun 14 08:56:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BEA21F870B for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:56:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X3joxPp-5Z8P for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC19321F8705 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:56:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=lufang@cisco.com; l=2318; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1339689365; x=1340898965; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date: message-id:in-reply-to:references:from:to:cc; bh=968kQagPg9+RUZx77q/ZSEW02GJKVYMPrexNIdPoolQ=; b=Rb9bJQ4nnf4CIklkf8CtMtmktalqtB69yducREvveFZoE+Z6LBBrgf+u Tcr2QNcQJdBqNXje8mI4+y9g19pRIX37v8hYeuTexsUce84F6Y43vFzNj oCU9esuNvAD6N9wS80mtKYSjnZJtn+uhDlCh6IWrvTDs1VCJHYta2Yjbl 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFAEQJ2k+tJXHA/2dsb2JhbABFtTyBB4IYAQEBBAEBAQ8BHQo0BgUMAgICAQgRBAEBCwYXAQYBGgwfCQgBAQQBEggah2kLmW2gDAQEiy4ahRdgA4hBmnaBZoJ+gUE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,770,1330905600"; d="scan'208";a="92474379" Received: from rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com ([173.37.113.192]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Jun 2012 15:56:05 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-301.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-301.cisco.com [72.163.63.8]) by rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5EFu4OF025197; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:56:05 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-201.cisco.com ([72.163.62.208]) by xbh-rcd-301.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:56:04 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:56:02 -0500 Message-ID: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095453D3@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD6C6F0.3000701@pi.nu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design Thread-Index: Ac1IVMnjz5c+o7FITyGPtm3RGuCWzAB7kJpw References: <4FD6C6F0.3000701@pi.nu> From: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" To: "Loa Andersson" , , "Nabil Bitar" , "Zhang, Raymond (Raymond)" , , , "Mach Chen" , "Dan Frost (danfrost)" , , , , "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" , "Lei Wang" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2012 15:56:04.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[3418F770:01CD4A46] Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:56:06 -0000 Hi Loa, In addition to the co-authors answered to you and the list, there were also several folks answered in separate mails which the MPLS WG chairs were copied, but WG list was not in the copy. We are trying to get everyone answer to the list. Raymond, Ping, Lei, Nurit, and Jianping, Could you please re-send your responses by replying this mail? Thx. Other co-authors who did not respond to the poll yet, please provide your answers. Thanks, Luyuan > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and- > design@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design >=20 > Working Group and authors; >=20 > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to > be sent to working group last call. >=20 > Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there > is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. >=20 > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of > any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >=20 > Thanks, Loa > (as MPLS WG co-chair) >=20 > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nabil.n.bitar@verizon.com Thu Jun 14 09:50:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B93921F86EF for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:50:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Rq+7NljMKJP for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fldsmtpe02.verizon.com (fldsmtpe02.verizon.com [140.108.26.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3273B21F86D7 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:50:09 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi02.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.144]) by fldsmtpe02.verizon.com with ESMTP; 14 Jun 2012 16:50:08 +0000 From: "Bitar, Nabil N" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,770,1330905600"; d="scan'208";a="282549116" Received: from fldp1lumxc7hb05.verizon.com (HELO FLDP1LUMXC7HB05.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.75.87]) by fldsmtpi02.verizon.com with ESMTP; 14 Jun 2012 16:50:01 +0000 Received: from fldp1lumxc7v63.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.45.45]) by FLDP1LUMXC7HB05.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.75.87]) with mapi; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:50:01 -0400 To: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" , Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:49:57 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design Thread-Index: Ac1KTb0poSBG2I+bQyeR3d307s8jRQ== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095446B8@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.10.0.110310 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:50:11 -0000 I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft either. Thanks, Nabil On 6/12/12 12:41 AM, "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" wrote: >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to >draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? >No. > >Thanks, >Luyuan > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >Of >> Loa Andersson >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM >> To: mpls@ietf.org >> Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and- >> design@tools.ietf.org >> Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design >>=20 >> Working Group and authors; >>=20 >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to >> be sent to working group last call. >>=20 >> Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there >> is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. >>=20 >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? >>=20 >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >>=20 >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond >to >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >> IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response >> has been received from each author and contributor. >>=20 >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author >or >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of >> any >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >>=20 >> Thanks, Loa >> (as MPLS WG co-chair) >>=20 >> -- >>=20 >>=20 >> Loa Andersson email: >loa.andersson@ericsson.com >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu >> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >> +46 767 72 92 13 >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From curtis@occnc.com Thu Jun 14 10:55:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2249321F866A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:55:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.85 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.85 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4MexzTaI0Tt2 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.ipv6.occnc.com (gateway.ipv6.occnc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1545::1:132]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F03821F8668 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newharbor.ipv6.occnc.com (newharbor.ipv6.occnc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1545::1:320]) (authenticated bits=0) by gateway.ipv6.occnc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5EHsxFx027014; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from curtis@occnc.com) Message-Id: <201206141754.q5EHsxFx027014@gateway.ipv6.occnc.com> To: Ross Callon From: Curtis Villamizar In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:31:30 EDT." Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:54:59 -0400 Cc: "'mpls@ietf.org'" Subject: Re: [mpls] WG last call on draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: curtis@occnc.com List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:55:05 -0000 In message Ross Callon writes: > Working Group; > > This is to start a two week working group last call on: > > - draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03 > > Please send comments to the mpls working group list. > > The working group last call ends June 28, 2012. > > Also, please note that there was an IPR disclosure on this document > sent to the MPLS mailing list yesterday, with the subject line "IPR > Disclosure: Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to > draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03". > > Thanks, Ross > (as MPLS WG co-chair) Ross, I just reread the new draft. It is very clear. It adds a worthwhile and well thought out mechanism to MPLS. Two nits, one potential problem but maybe one that is best addressed later if problems with legacy LSR occur. IMHO - Illustrative examples are usually put in appendices. Maybe section 8 should be moved to an appendix (it would become Appendix B). Curtis Nit 1: Old: The term 'label' is used both for the entire 32-bit label and the 20- bit label field within a label. It should be clear from the context which is meant. Better: The term 'label' is used both for the entire 32-bit label stack entry and the 20-bit label field within a label stack entry. It should be clear from the context which is meant. Why: Label stack entry and label field are completely unambiguous and are the terms used in RFC 3032. Using label alone is common and this paragraph is a good clarification, but it is a better clarification if the full terms that "label" is replacing are spelled out. Nit 2: Old: This is accomplished by REQUIRING that the label immediately preceding an entropy label (EL) in the MPLS label stack be an 'entropy label indicator' (ELI). New: This is accomplished by REQUIRING that the label immediately preceding an entropy label (EL) in the MPLS label stack be an 'entropy label indicator' (ELI), where preceding means closer to the top of the label stack (farther from bottom of stack indication). Why: The existing wording might not be as clear to the MPLS neophyte that preceding implies the order of stack processing. AFAIK "preceding" is not defined anywhere. More than a nit (maybe): Old: b. X MAY insert several entropy labels in the stack (each, of course, preceded by an ELI), potentially one for each hierarchical tunnel, provided that the egress for that tunnel has indicated that it can process ELs for that tunnel. Potential issue: Many existing LSR are unable to handle label stacks in excess of a small number of labels (six, eight being common). In some LSR when no BOS is found in a limited depth search, unexpected behaviour may result, possibly packet discard. This may be a reason for BOS=1 at ELI, but a better alternative exists. It might be better to put BOS (S=1) at ELI, only if it is the second or later ELI in the stack. This keeps stack depth down for older LSR that may have a problem with it. Having popped an ELI and EL at an egress, the S-bit of the next EL can be changed to S=0. This would result in: No RFC4928 concerns if EL values avoid 4 or 6 in the first nibble of an EL that follows an ELI with BOS=1. Legacy load balance continues to work, acting on the top ELI. Label stack depth seen by legacy LSR is never increased by more than three labels (first EL and ELI with BOS=0, and second ELI with BOS=1). BTW - If you leave this out, it will simplify things. If you add it, it just provides a means of addressing problems with legacy LSR should those problems be significant. I am concerned due to prior discussions with chip vendors about their handling of deep label stacks and hashing label stacks, with "no BOS found" being an error. I am also concerned because one chip vendor claimed that hashing on more than three labels would be easy - just cycle the packet through twice (and get half the PPS, thinking that was OK on the basis that such packets might be rare). Even in cases where we saw issues in evaluation and were sufficiently interested to point out the issues and ask for changes, others have used earlier iterations of these chips. If I remember correctly, one chip vendor circa 2006 thought that a max of two labels is all that was ever needed, LDP and PW, based on a prior customer input (all that customer thought they needed). Perhaps this handling of BOS at ELI can be included as an optional behavior but if so, another capability must be indicated. The operation can be summarized as "hiding a prior EL and the rest of stack when adding an additional ELI and EL if the egress is able to reverse the process". The capability can be indicated with two values of "Type" in LDP signaling. It would require two bits in the Attribute Flags TLV for RSVP-TE signaling. The downside to this is constraining the depth of the search for another EL after ELI, EL POP. It would be best if the egress could indicate how deep the next EL could be. This means more than two Attribute Flags TLV bits or two values of Type in LDP ELC. Possibly an extension could be proposed later if problems occur. From PPan@infinera.com Thu Jun 14 11:22:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FD521F864A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:22:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5vmPnWNIh6Td for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sv-casht-prod1.infinera.com (sv-casht-prod1.infinera.com [8.4.225.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6AC21F8646 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SV-EXDB-PROD2.infinera.com ([fe80::1d05:1822:aaea:ff52]) by sv-casht-prod1.infinera.com ([10.100.97.218]) with mapi id 14.02.0283.003; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:22:34 -0700 From: Ping Pan To: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" , Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" , Nabil Bitar , "Zhang, Raymond (Raymond)" , "ms-daikoku@kddi.com" , Mach Chen , "Dan Frost (danfrost)" , "klyap@xo.com" , "henry.yu@twtelecom.com" , "zhangjp@shtel.com.cn" , "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" , Lei Wang Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design Thread-Index: Ac1IVMnjz5c+o7FITyGPtm3RGuCWzAB7kJpwAAXlewA= Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:22:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: <4FD6C6F0.3000701@pi.nu> <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095453D3@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095453D3@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.100.96.93] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:22:35 -0000 Not from our side. Thanks! Regards, Ping -----Original Message----- From: Luyuan Fang (lufang) [mailto:lufang@cisco.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 8:56 AM To: Loa Andersson; mpls@ietf.org; Nabil Bitar; Zhang, Raymond (Raymond); ms= -daikoku@kddi.com; Ping Pan; Mach Chen; Dan Frost (danfrost); klyap@xo.com;= henry.yu@twtelecom.com; zhangjp@shtel.com.cn; Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Ho= d HaSharon); Lei Wang Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@too= ls.ietf.org Subject: RE: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design Hi Loa, In addition to the co-authors answered to you and the list, there were also= several folks answered in separate mails which the MPLS WG chairs were cop= ied, but WG list was not in the copy. We are trying to get everyone answer = to the list. Raymond, Ping, Lei, Nurit, and Jianping, Could you please re-send your resp= onses by replying this mail? Thx. Other co-authors who did not respond to the poll yet, please provide your a= nswers. Thanks, Luyuan > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-=20 > design@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design >=20 > Working Group and authors; >=20 > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to be sent=20 > to working group last call. >=20 > Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there is=20 > IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to=20 > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules=20 > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant=20 > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response=20 > has been received from each author and contributor. >=20 > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of=20 > any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF=20 > rules. >=20 > Thanks, Loa > (as MPLS WG co-chair) >=20 > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From loa@pi.nu Thu Jun 14 11:34:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D6921F8716 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:34:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AW2Ga7-sPJGb for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9357C21F8668 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D2112A8002; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:34:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FDA2ECB.8050800@pi.nu> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:34:51 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" References: <4FD6C6F0.3000701@pi.nu> <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095453D3@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095453D3@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mpls@ietf.org, ms-daikoku@kddi.com, Lei Wang , ppan@infinera.com, "Zhang, Raymond \(Raymond\)" , zhangjp@shtel.com.cn, henry.yu@twtelecom.com, klyap@xo.com, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, Nabil Bitar Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:34:56 -0000 Luyuan, the only two that has not answered (as far as I can see) are: Kam Lee Yap, XO Communications Henry Yu, Time W Telecom I appreciate your efforts to have the statements made on the list. /Loa On 2012-06-14 17:56, Luyuan Fang (lufang) wrote: > Hi Loa, > > In addition to the co-authors answered to you and the list, there were > also several folks answered in separate mails which the MPLS WG chairs > were copied, but WG list was not in the copy. We are trying to get > everyone answer to the list. > > Raymond, Ping, Lei, Nurit, and Jianping, > Could you please re-send your responses by replying this mail? Thx. > > Other co-authors who did not respond to the poll yet, please provide > your answers. > > Thanks, > Luyuan > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of >> Loa Andersson >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM >> To: mpls@ietf.org >> Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and- >> design@tools.ietf.org >> Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design >> >> Working Group and authors; >> >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to >> be sent to working group last call. >> >> Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there >> is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. >> >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? >> >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >> >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond > to >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >> IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response >> has been received from each author and contributor. >> >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author > or >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of >> any >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >> >> Thanks, Loa >> (as MPLS WG co-chair) >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: > loa.andersson@ericsson.com >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu >> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >> +46 767 72 92 13 >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From lufang@cisco.com Thu Jun 14 11:37:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8388721F8740 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e-q+fAPX84CA for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A558321F8738 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:37:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=lufang@cisco.com; l=4239; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1339699039; x=1340908639; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date: message-id:in-reply-to:references:from:to:cc; bh=0pJb/ijQC9F/2vEpasQoYJuPqfSpYVgn66X1iYmUipM=; b=fCBI7h9KF2+LfoP9y15WvHU/FIKilVpiccE9Xix3GscFZjSNSVWgb681 GzBsA6v2vWq6eA6kvPrDE1OJNeJlDKVq4tkzfvLwwkoCyBT+yGkXri0dC ogRnDpJF0eqpZypmQJeMtuFMHEFmfUWG5Q1NacunHC8qYf1mmq5gBBlxY I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFAEAu2k+tJXHB/2dsb2JhbABFtT2BB4IYAQEBBAEBAQ8BHQo0BgUMAgICAQgRBAEBAQoGFwEGARoMHwkIAQEEEwgah2kLmWigEAQEiy4ahRdgA4hBmnaBZoJ+gUE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,772,1330905600"; d="scan'208";a="92575534" Received: from rcdn-core2-6.cisco.com ([173.37.113.193]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Jun 2012 18:37:19 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com [72.163.62.201]) by rcdn-core2-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5EIbJ4I029532; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:37:19 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-201.cisco.com ([72.163.62.208]) by xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:37:18 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:37:15 -0500 Message-ID: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095FECD8@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <8CF05297-8ECD-40BF-A768-D9C56AEF40F5@twtelecom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design Thread-Index: Ac1IVMnjz5c+o7FITyGPtm3RGuCWzAB7kJpwAAZOiBsAABCOEA== References: <4FD6C6F0.3000701@pi.nu>, <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095453D3@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> <8CF05297-8ECD-40BF-A768-D9C56AEF40F5@twtelecom.com> From: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" To: "Yu, Henry" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2012 18:37:18.0931 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA755230:01CD4A5C] Cc: mpls@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org, ms-daikoku@kddi.com, Lei Wang , ppan@infinera.com, "Zhang, Raymond \(Raymond\)" , zhangjp@shtel.com.cn, klyap@xo.com, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, Nabil Bitar Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:37:20 -0000 Thanks, Henry!=20 Will correct your address. > -----Original Message----- > From: Yu, Henry [mailto:henry.yu@twtelecom.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:34 PM > To: Luyuan Fang (lufang) > Cc: Loa Andersson; mpls@ietf.org; Nabil Bitar; Zhang, Raymond > (Raymond); ms-daikoku@kddi.com; ppan@infinera.com; Mach Chen; Dan Frost > (danfrost); klyap@xo.com; zhangjp@shtel.com.cn; Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - > IL/Hod HaSharon); Lei Wang; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf- > mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design >=20 > No IPR issues on my side. My corporation should be "tw telecom" > versus " Time W Telecom". >=20 > Thanks >=20 > On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:56 AM, "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" > wrote: >=20 > > Hi Loa, > > > > In addition to the co-authors answered to you and the list, there > were > > also several folks answered in separate mails which the MPLS WG > chairs > > were copied, but WG list was not in the copy. We are trying to get > > everyone answer to the list. > > > > Raymond, Ping, Lei, Nurit, and Jianping, > > Could you please re-send your responses by replying this mail? Thx. > > > > Other co-authors who did not respond to the poll yet, please provide > > your answers. > > > > Thanks, > > Luyuan > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > > Of > >> Loa Andersson > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM > >> To: mpls@ietf.org > >> Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and- > >> design@tools.ietf.org > >> Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design > >> > >> Working Group and authors; > >> > >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to > >> be sent to working group last call. > >> > >> Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there > >> is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. > >> > >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? > >> > >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > >> > >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond > > to > >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any > relevant > >> IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a > response > >> has been received from each author and contributor. > >> > >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author > > or > >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of > >> any > >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > >> > >> Thanks, Loa > >> (as MPLS WG co-chair) > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> Loa Andersson email: > > loa.andersson@ericsson.com > >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > >> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > >> +46 767 72 92 13 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mpls mailing list > >> mpls@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > >=20 >=20 > ------------- >=20 >=20 >=20 > The content contained in this electronic message is not intended to > constitute formation of a contract binding tw telecom. tw telecom will > be contractually bound only upon execution, by an authorized officer, > of a contract including agreed terms and conditions or by express > application of its tariffs. 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If you have received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the > sender of this E-Mail or by telephone. >=20 From loa@pi.nu Thu Jun 14 11:37:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9AD21F8749 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:37:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L54Y9Eqgyd3s for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AA221F8746 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 11:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 115732A8002; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:37:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FDA2F71.5000606@pi.nu> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:37:37 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" References: <4FD6C6F0.3000701@pi.nu> <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095453D3@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> <4FDA2ECB.8050800@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FDA2ECB.8050800@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mpls@ietf.org, ms-daikoku@kddi.com, Lei Wang , ppan@infinera.com, "Zhang, Raymond \(Raymond\)" , zhangjp@shtel.com.cn, henry.yu@twtelecom.com, klyap@xo.com, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, Nabil Bitar Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:37:44 -0000 All, Henry's mail and mine were cross posted :) /Loa On 2012-06-14 20:34, Loa Andersson wrote: > Luyuan, > > the only two that has not answered (as far as I can see) are: > > Kam Lee Yap, XO Communications > Henry Yu, Time W Telecom > > I appreciate your efforts to have the statements made on the list. > > /Loa > > On 2012-06-14 17:56, Luyuan Fang (lufang) wrote: >> Hi Loa, >> >> In addition to the co-authors answered to you and the list, there were >> also several folks answered in separate mails which the MPLS WG chairs >> were copied, but WG list was not in the copy. We are trying to get >> everyone answer to the list. >> >> Raymond, Ping, Lei, Nurit, and Jianping, >> Could you please re-send your responses by replying this mail? Thx. >> >> Other co-authors who did not respond to the poll yet, please provide >> your answers. >> >> Thanks, >> Luyuan >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >> Of >>> Loa Andersson >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM >>> To: mpls@ietf.org >>> Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and- >>> design@tools.ietf.org >>> Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design >>> >>> Working Group and authors; >>> >>> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to >>> be sent to working group last call. >>> >>> Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there >>> is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. >>> >>> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to >>> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? >>> >>> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >>> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >>> >>> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond >> to >>> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >>> IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response >>> has been received from each author and contributor. >>> >>> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author >> or >>> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of >>> any >>> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >>> >>> Thanks, Loa >>> (as MPLS WG co-chair) >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Loa Andersson email: >> loa.andersson@ericsson.com >>> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu >>> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >>> +46 767 72 92 13 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpls mailing list >>> mpls@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From kireeti@juniper.net Thu Jun 14 13:44:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACE521F8550 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:44:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_32=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vm35TZXC+Vbj for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og114.obsmtp.com (exprod7og114.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.215]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCC721F852A for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob114.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT9pNFLa9Q7YkOdkdiTzhTBzhPhfXmb9H@postini.com; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:44:06 PDT Received: from EMBX01-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::c821:7c81:f21f:8bc7]) by P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::88f9:77fd:dfc:4d51%11]) with mapi; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:39:18 -0700 From: Kireeti Kompella To: "curtis@occnc.com" Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:39:17 -0700 Thread-Topic: [mpls] WG last call on draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03 Thread-Index: Ac1KbcTJmAnm8kyrQxehXvfULlyugA== Message-ID: References: <201206141754.q5EHsxFx027014@gateway.ipv6.occnc.com> In-Reply-To: <201206141754.q5EHsxFx027014@gateway.ipv6.occnc.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Ross Callon , "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] WG last call on draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:44:07 -0000 Hi Curtis, Thanks for your comments! I'm fine with the fixes for Nit 1 and 2. See inline for the "More than a nit". On Jun 14, 2012, at 10:54 , Curtis Villamizar wrote: >=20 > In message > Ross Callon writes: >=20 >> Working Group; >>=20 >> This is to start a two week working group last call on: >>=20 >> - draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03 >>=20 >> Please send comments to the mpls working group list. >>=20 >> The working group last call ends June 28, 2012. >>=20 >> Also, please note that there was an IPR disclosure on this document >> sent to the MPLS mailing list yesterday, with the subject line "IPR >> Disclosure: Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to >> draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03". >>=20 >> Thanks, Ross >> (as MPLS WG co-chair) >=20 >=20 > Ross, >=20 > I just reread the new draft. It is very clear. It adds a worthwhile > and well thought out mechanism to MPLS. >=20 > Two nits, one potential problem but maybe one that is best addressed > later if problems with legacy LSR occur. >=20 > IMHO - Illustrative examples are usually put in appendices. Maybe > section 8 should be moved to an appendix (it would become Appendix B). >=20 > Curtis >=20 >=20 > Nit 1: >=20 > Old: >=20 > The term 'label' is used both for the entire 32-bit label and the 20- > bit label field within a label. It should be clear from the context > which is meant. >=20 > Better: >=20 > The term 'label' is used both for the entire 32-bit label stack > entry and the 20-bit label field within a label stack entry. It > should be clear from the context which is meant. >=20 > Why: >=20 > Label stack entry and label field are completely unambiguous and > are the terms used in RFC 3032. Using label alone is common and > this paragraph is a good clarification, but it is a better > clarification if the full terms that "label" is replacing are > spelled out. >=20 > Nit 2: >=20 > Old: >=20 > This is accomplished by REQUIRING that the label > immediately preceding an entropy label (EL) in the MPLS label stack > be an 'entropy label indicator' (ELI). >=20 > New: >=20 > This is accomplished by REQUIRING that the label immediately > preceding an entropy label (EL) in the MPLS label stack be an > 'entropy label indicator' (ELI), where preceding means closer to > the top of the label stack (farther from bottom of stack > indication). >=20 > Why: >=20 > The existing wording might not be as clear to the MPLS neophyte > that preceding implies the order of stack processing. AFAIK > "preceding" is not defined anywhere. >=20 > More than a nit (maybe): >=20 > Old: >=20 > b. X MAY insert several entropy labels in the stack (each, of > course, preceded by an ELI), potentially one for each > hierarchical tunnel, provided that the egress for that tunnel > has indicated that it can process ELs for that tunnel. >=20 > Potential issue: >=20 > Many existing LSR are unable to handle label stacks in excess of a > small number of labels (six, eight being common). =20 Let me see if I understand: even if an LSR is simply label switching on the= top label, it may search the top 6-8 labels for one that has a BoS bit set= ? And do funky things if such is not found? > In some LSR when > no BOS is found in a limited depth search, unexpected behaviour may > result, possibly packet discard. This may be a reason for BOS=3D1 at > ELI, but a better alternative exists. I'd be more afraid of setting BOS to 1 in the middle of the label stack tha= n of legacy LSRs dropping packets with too many labels (for them). The for= mer violates the MPLS label architecture; the latter is a particular implem= entation issue. > It might be better to put BOS (S=3D1) at ELI, only if it is the > second or later ELI in the stack. =20 This is still scary; moreover, in case of hierarchical tunnels or CsC VPNs,= different LSRs may insert the ELI+EL pair. Good point for the MPLS WG at large to mull over. My inclination is to lea= ve this as it currently is, or at most point out the legacy LSR issue witho= ut attempting to fix it. Kireeti. > This keeps stack depth down for > older LSR that may have a problem with it. Having popped an ELI > and EL at an egress, the S-bit of the next EL can be changed to > S=3D0. >=20 > This would result in: >=20 > No RFC4928 concerns if EL values avoid 4 or 6 in the first nibble > of an EL that follows an ELI with BOS=3D1. >=20 > Legacy load balance continues to work, acting on the top ELI. >=20 > Label stack depth seen by legacy LSR is never increased by more > than three labels (first EL and ELI with BOS=3D0, and second ELI > with BOS=3D1). >=20 > BTW - If you leave this out, it will simplify things. If you add > it, it just provides a means of addressing problems with legacy LSR > should those problems be significant. >=20 > I am concerned due to prior discussions with chip vendors about > their handling of deep label stacks and hashing label stacks, with > "no BOS found" being an error. I am also concerned because one > chip vendor claimed that hashing on more than three labels would be > easy - just cycle the packet through twice (and get half the PPS, > thinking that was OK on the basis that such packets might be rare). > Even in cases where we saw issues in evaluation and were > sufficiently interested to point out the issues and ask for > changes, others have used earlier iterations of these chips. > If I remember correctly, one chip vendor circa 2006 thought that a > max of two labels is all that was ever needed, LDP and PW, based on > a prior customer input (all that customer thought they needed). >=20 > Perhaps this handling of BOS at ELI can be included as an optional > behavior but if so, another capability must be indicated. The > operation can be summarized as "hiding a prior EL and the rest of > stack when adding an additional ELI and EL if the egress is able to > reverse the process". The capability can be indicated with two > values of "Type" in LDP signaling. It would require two bits in > the Attribute Flags TLV for RSVP-TE signaling. >=20 > The downside to this is constraining the depth of the search for > another EL after ELI, EL POP. It would be best if the egress could > indicate how deep the next EL could be. This means more than two > Attribute Flags TLV bits or two values of Type in LDP ELC. > Possibly an extension could be proposed later if problems occur. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From curtis@occnc.com Thu Jun 14 17:30:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648CC11E8083 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:30:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.020, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_32=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id za38kBVSCgAz for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.ipv6.occnc.com (gateway.ipv6.occnc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1545::1:132]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6383611E8072 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newharbor.ipv6.occnc.com (newharbor.ipv6.occnc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1545::1:320]) (authenticated bits=0) by gateway.ipv6.occnc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5F0UZdw035927; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 17:30:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from curtis@occnc.com) Message-Id: <201206150030.q5F0UZdw035927@gateway.ipv6.occnc.com> To: Kireeti Kompella From: Curtis Villamizar In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:39:17 PDT." Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:30:35 -0400 Cc: Ross Callon , "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] WG last call on draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: curtis@occnc.com List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 00:30:45 -0000 Kireeti, Thanks for the reply. I'm fine with taking the nits and leaving the "More than a nit" comment alone as you suggested. You may be right about the BOS in the middle of stack being worse than the potential problem it would be trying to avoid. Curtis In message Kireeti Kompella writes: Hi Curtis, Thanks for your comments! I'm fine with the fixes for Nit 1 and 2. See inline for the "More than a nit". On Jun 14, 2012, at 10:54 , Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > In message > Ross Callon writes: > >> Working Group; >> >> This is to start a two week working group last call on: >> >> - draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03 >> >> Please send comments to the mpls working group list. >> >> The working group last call ends June 28, 2012. >> >> Also, please note that there was an IPR disclosure on this document >> sent to the MPLS mailing list yesterday, with the subject line "IPR >> Disclosure: Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to >> draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-03". >> >> Thanks, Ross >> (as MPLS WG co-chair) > > > Ross, > > I just reread the new draft. It is very clear. It adds a worthwhile > and well thought out mechanism to MPLS. > > Two nits, one potential problem but maybe one that is best addressed > later if problems with legacy LSR occur. > > IMHO - Illustrative examples are usually put in appendices. Maybe > section 8 should be moved to an appendix (it would become Appendix B). > > Curtis > > > Nit 1: > > Old: > > The term 'label' is used both for the entire 32-bit label and the 20- > bit label field within a label. It should be clear from the context > which is meant. > > Better: > > The term 'label' is used both for the entire 32-bit label stack > entry and the 20-bit label field within a label stack entry. It > should be clear from the context which is meant. > > Why: > > Label stack entry and label field are completely unambiguous and > are the terms used in RFC 3032. Using label alone is common and > this paragraph is a good clarification, but it is a better > clarification if the full terms that "label" is replacing are > spelled out. > > Nit 2: > > Old: > > This is accomplished by REQUIRING that the label > immediately preceding an entropy label (EL) in the MPLS label stack > be an 'entropy label indicator' (ELI). > > New: > > This is accomplished by REQUIRING that the label immediately > preceding an entropy label (EL) in the MPLS label stack be an > 'entropy label indicator' (ELI), where preceding means closer to > the top of the label stack (farther from bottom of stack > indication). > > Why: > > The existing wording might not be as clear to the MPLS neophyte > that preceding implies the order of stack processing. AFAIK > "preceding" is not defined anywhere. > > More than a nit (maybe): > > Old: > > b. X MAY insert several entropy labels in the stack (each, of > course, preceded by an ELI), potentially one for each > hierarchical tunnel, provided that the egress for that tunnel > has indicated that it can process ELs for that tunnel. > > Potential issue: > > Many existing LSR are unable to handle label stacks in excess of a > small number of labels (six, eight being common). Let me see if I understand: even if an LSR is simply label switching on the top label, it may search the top 6-8 labels for one that has a BoS bit set? And do funky things if such is not found? > In some LSR when > no BOS is found in a limited depth search, unexpected behaviour may > result, possibly packet discard. This may be a reason for BOS=1 at > ELI, but a better alternative exists. I'd be more afraid of setting BOS to 1 in the middle of the label stack than of legacy LSRs dropping packets with too many labels (for them). The former violates the MPLS label architecture; the latter is a particular implementation issue. > It might be better to put BOS (S=1) at ELI, only if it is the > second or later ELI in the stack. This is still scary; moreover, in case of hierarchical tunnels or CsC VPNs, different LSRs may insert the ELI+EL pair. Good point for the MPLS WG at large to mull over. My inclination is to leave this as it currently is, or at most point out the legacy LSR issue without attempting to fix it. Kireeti. > This keeps stack depth down for > older LSR that may have a problem with it. Having popped an ELI > and EL at an egress, the S-bit of the next EL can be changed to > S=0. > > This would result in: > > No RFC4928 concerns if EL values avoid 4 or 6 in the first nibble > of an EL that follows an ELI with BOS=1. > > Legacy load balance continues to work, acting on the top ELI. > > Label stack depth seen by legacy LSR is never increased by more > than three labels (first EL and ELI with BOS=0, and second ELI > with BOS=1). > > BTW - If you leave this out, it will simplify things. If you add > it, it just provides a means of addressing problems with legacy LSR > should those problems be significant. > > I am concerned due to prior discussions with chip vendors about > their handling of deep label stacks and hashing label stacks, with > "no BOS found" being an error. I am also concerned because one > chip vendor claimed that hashing on more than three labels would be > easy - just cycle the packet through twice (and get half the PPS, > thinking that was OK on the basis that such packets might be rare). > Even in cases where we saw issues in evaluation and were > sufficiently interested to point out the issues and ask for > changes, others have used earlier iterations of these chips. > If I remember correctly, one chip vendor circa 2006 thought that a > max of two labels is all that was ever needed, LDP and PW, based on > a prior customer input (all that customer thought they needed). > > Perhaps this handling of BOS at ELI can be included as an optional > behavior but if so, another capability must be indicated. The > operation can be summarized as "hiding a prior EL and the rest of > stack when adding an additional ELI and EL if the egress is able to > reverse the process". The capability can be indicated with two > values of "Type" in LDP signaling. It would require two bits in > the Attribute Flags TLV for RSVP-TE signaling. > > The downside to this is constraining the depth of the search for > another EL after ELI, EL POP. It would be best if the egress could > indicate how deep the next EL could be. This means more than two > Attribute Flags TLV bits or two values of Type in LDP ELC. > Possibly an extension could be proposed later if problems occur. > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From nurit.sprecher@nsn.com Fri Jun 15 02:23:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AFF21F85A5 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 02:23:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.148 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.148 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NSaNJTzSr8vl for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 02:23:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (demumfd001.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.32]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4876C21F859A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 02:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd001.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q5F9NV9u025304 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:23:31 +0200 Received: from demuexc022.nsn-intra.net (demuexc022.nsn-intra.net [10.150.128.35]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q5F9NSVH017220; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:23:28 +0200 Received: from DEMUEXC013.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.24]) by demuexc022.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:23:28 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD4AD8.85AC3E31" Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:23:26 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RE: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design Thread-Index: Ac1KmzH8JlvBoKX7TEmi5WzQaxkW9QAPUPFg References: From: "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jun 2012 09:23:28.0398 (UTC) FILETIME=[85EE22E0:01CD4AD8] X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate-size: 34737 X-purgate-ID: 151667::1339752212-00003CDD-5063C60E/0-0/0-0 Cc: mpls@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org, ms-daikoku@kddi.com, lei.wang@limenetworks.no, ppan@infinera.com, raymond.zhang@alcatel-lucent.com, henry.yu@twtelecom.com, klyap@xo.com, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, nabil.bitar@verizon.com Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 09:23:55 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD4AD8.85AC3E31 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am not aware of a related IPR. Best regards, Nurit =20 From: ext zhangjp@shtel.com.cn [mailto:zhangjp@shtel.com.cn]=20 Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 5:04 AM To: lufang@cisco.com Cc: danfrost@cisco.com; = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org; = henry.yu@twtelecom.com; klyap@xo.com; lei.wang@limenetworks.no; = loa@pi.nu; mach.chen@huawei.com; mpls@ietf.org; = mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; ms-daikoku@kddi.com; = nabil.bitar@verizon.com; Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon); = ppan@infinera.com; raymond.zhang@alcatel-lucent.com Subject: =B4=F0=B8=B4: RE: [mpls] IPR poll on = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design =20 Hi, no IPR issues from my side. Thanks, Jian Ping Zhang =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=D2=D4= =CF=C2=CA=C7=D4=AD=D0=C5=CF=A2=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA"Luyuan Fang (lufang)"=20 =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA"Loa Andersson" , , "Nabil Bitar" , "Zhang, = Raymond (Raymond)" , , , "Mach Chen" , "Dan Frost (danfrost)" , , , , = "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" , "Lei Wang"=20 =B3=AD =CB=CD=A3=BA,=20 =C3=DC =CB=CD=A3=BA=20 =D6=F7 =CC=E2=A3=BARE: [mpls] IPR poll on = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design=20 =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4=A3=BA2012-06-14 10:56 EST=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Hi Loa, In addition to the co-authors answered to you and the list, there were also several folks answered in separate mails which the MPLS WG chairs were copied, but WG list was not in the copy. We are trying to get everyone answer to the list. Raymond, Ping, Lei, Nurit, and Jianping, Could you please re-send your responses by replying this mail? Thx. Other co-authors who did not respond to the poll yet, please provide your answers. Thanks, Luyuan > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Loa Andersson > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and- > design@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design > > Working Group and authors; > > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to > be sent to working group last call. > > Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there > is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of > any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thanks, Loa > (as MPLS WG co-chair) > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD4AD8.85AC3E31 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am not = aware of a related IPR.

Best = regards,

Nurit<= /o:p>

 =

From:= = ext zhangjp@shtel.com.cn [mailto:zhangjp@shtel.com.cn]
Sent: = Friday, June 15, 2012 5:04 AM
To: = lufang@cisco.com
Cc: danfrost@cisco.com; = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org; = henry.yu@twtelecom.com; klyap@xo.com; lei.wang@limenetworks.no; = loa@pi.nu; mach.chen@huawei.com; mpls@ietf.org; = mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; ms-daikoku@kddi.com; = nabil.bitar@verizon.com; Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon); = ppan@infinera.com; raymond.zhang@alcatel-lucent.com
Subject: = =B4=F0=B8=B4: RE: = [mpls] IPR poll on = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design

 

Hi, no IPR issues from my = side.

Thanks,

Jian Ping = Zhang

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=D2=D4=CF=C2=CA=C7=D4=AD=D0=C5=CF=A2=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =
=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA"Luyuan Fang = (lufang)"
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA"Loa Andersson" , = , "Nabil Bitar" , "Zhang, Raymond (Raymond)" , , , = "Mach Chen" , "Dan Frost (danfrost)" , , , , = "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" , "Lei = Wang"
=B3=AD  =CB=CD=A3=BA,
=C3=DC  =CB=CD=A3=BA
=D6=F7  =CC=E2=A3=BARE: [mpls] IPR poll on = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4=A3=BA2012-06-14 10:56 EST =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


Hi = Loa,

In addition to the co-authors answered to you and = the list, there were
also several folks answered in separate = mails which the MPLS WG chairs
were copied, but WG list was = not in the copy. We are trying to get
everyone answer to the = list.

Raymond, Ping, Lei, Nurit, and = Jianping,
Could you please re-send your responses by = replying this mail? Thx.

Other co-authors who did not = respond to the poll yet, please provide
your = answers.

Thanks,
Luyuan


&= gt; -----Original Message-----
> From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf
Of
> Loa Andersson
> = Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM
> To: mpls@ietf.org
> Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org= ; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-
> design@tools.ietf.org
<= tt>> Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design
>
>= Working Group and authors;
>
> = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready = to
> be sent to working group last = call.
>
> Before the working group last, = we would like to check whether there
> is IPR on the = document that needs to be disclosed.
>
> = Are you aware of any IPR that applies to
> = draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design?
>
>= ; If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR = rules
> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more = details).
>
> If you are listed as a = document author or contributor please = respond
to
> this email regardless of whether = or not you are aware of any relevant
> IPR. The documents = will not advance to the next stage until a response
> has = been received from each author and = contributor.
>
> If you are on the MPLS WG = email list but are not listed as an = author
or
> contributor, then please = explicitly respond only if you are aware of
> = any
> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance = with IETF rules.
>
> Thanks, = Loa
> (as MPLS WG = co-chair)
>
> = --
>
>
> Loa Andersson =                     =     email:
loa.andersson@ericsson.com=
> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager       =      loa@pi.nu
> Ericsson Inc =                     =      phone: +46 10 717 52 13
>   =                     =                     =     +46 767 72 92 13
> = _______________________________________________
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> mpls@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/= mailman/listinfo/mpls


------_=_NextPart_001_01CD4AD8.85AC3E31-- From jdrake@juniper.net Fri Jun 15 04:33:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CADC621F8622 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:33:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.905 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.905 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=4.693, BAYES_00=-2.599, OBSCURED_EMAIL=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H7IWxl2qQEUv for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og110.obsmtp.com (exprod7og110.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.173]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D633021F8600 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob110.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT9sdjkA4O7l6EB51TaukmQfD2ScrpwEf@postini.com; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:33:40 PDT Received: from EMBX01-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::c821:7c81:f21f:8bc7]) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([::1]) with mapi; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:32:36 -0700 From: John E Drake To: "stbryant@cisco.com" , "draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 04:32:34 -0700 Thread-Topic: [mpls] draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label - OAM text Thread-Index: Ac1GHrjga4hmISbAR7WG07/k7qYwogEVOfvQ Message-ID: <5E893DB832F57341992548CDBB333163A5A6B05AC0@EMBX01-HQ.jnpr.net> References: <4FD31147.7090506@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4FD31147.7090506@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [mpls] draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label - OAM text X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:33:41 -0000 Stewart, The Entropy Label draft does not change the behavior of RFC 4379, so these = questions are really on the operation of RFC 4379 and should probably be di= rected to its authors. Briefly, though, the operation is basically the sam= e whether using multipath types 4 & 8 (destination IP address) or type 9 (l= abel) and types 4 & 8 have been in production networks for quite some time. Thanks, John Sent from my iPhone >-----Original Message----- >From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >Stewart Bryant >Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 2:03 AM >To: draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label@tools.ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org >Subject: [mpls] draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label - OAM text > >6. Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM) and Entropy Labels > > > The LSP traceroute procedures of [RFC4379] allow an ingress LSR to > obtain label ranges that can be used to send packets on every path >to > the egress LSR. > >SB> I know this is what RFC4379 says, but I am concerned about how well >SB> this work in practical applications. >SB> What you are asking the LSR to do is to invert the hash and return >SB> the set of ranges that it will sent down each path. >SB> Depending on the hash this could be a very large response. >SB> In the pathological case this could be 10^6/(ECMP splits) returned >SB> values. > > It works by having ingress LSR sequentially ask the > transit LSRs along a particular path to a given egress LSR to return > a label range such that the inclusion of a label in that range in a > packet will cause the replying transit LSR to send that packet out > the egress interface for that path. > >SB> Again help me to understand this. Depending on the hash and >SB> depolarization constants it seems to me that you could have to try >SB> all of the ranges returned from the first hop before you get to a >SB> value that causes the packet to go down the path you need to use in >SB> the last hop. In the pathological case (and remember the hash is not >SB> defined) that could require testing 10^6 label values. > > The ingress provides the label > range returned by transit LSR N to transit LSR N + 1, which returns >a > label range which is less than or equal in span to the range >provided > to it. This process iterates until the penultimate transit LSR > replies to the ingress LSR with a label range that is acceptable to > it and to all LSRs along path preceding it for forwarding a packet > along the path. > >SB> This is not clear to me, it depends on the hash. If the hash simply >SB> chops the label range up into ranges and allocates sequential >SB> groups, that would work. However the hash is not defined, and could >SB> be somewhat crypto like (indeed I would hope it was to extract >SB> maximum entropy from the labels which would tend to be >SB> systematically allocated). In the latter case, I am not sure that >SB> you could trace the path within the stability interval of the >SB> network. > > However, the LSP traceroute procedures do not specify where in the > label stack the value from the label range is to be placed, whether > deep packet inspection is allowed and if so, which keys and key > values are to be used. > > This memo updates LSP traceroute by specifying that the value from > the label range is to be placed in the entropy label. Deep packet > inspection is thus not necessary, although an LSR may use it, > provided it do so consistently, i.e., if the label range to go to a > given downstream LSR is computed with deep packet inspection, then > the data path should use the same approach and the same keys. > >SB> That would allow you to get a TR to go the way you wanted, although >SB> it is not obvious to me that you can easily map this to the path of >SB> a data packet, or an IP ping being carried between the two PEs. > > In order to have a BFD session on a given path, a value from the > label range for that path should be used as the EL value for BFD > packets sent on that path. > >SB> Again I am concerned that you are making a number of assumptions >SB> here about the ECMP behaviour of the P routers and in particular >SB> their hash function and hash function input parameters. > >It maybe that I am misunderstanding things here, but I am not convinced >that this provides the required functionality when deployed across a >network with the currently deployed LSRs. > >- Stewart > >_______________________________________________ >mpls mailing list >mpls@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From jmh@joelhalpern.com Sat Jun 16 11:59:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB08021F8475 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:59:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.273 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.273 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H6OGio++iB28 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from morbo.mail.tigertech.net (morbo.mail.tigertech.net [67.131.251.54]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA56221F8472 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailc2.tigertech.net (mailc2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.156]) by morbo.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E31558123 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3504E1BCF6D5 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:59:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at c2.tigertech.net Received: from [10.10.10.105] (pool-71-161-51-75.clppva.btas.verizon.net [71.161.51.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailc2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A403E1BCF6CF for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 11:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDCD78C.6000907@joelhalpern.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:59:24 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [mpls] Review of draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv-02 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:59:31 -0000 (Sorry this is a day light. Messy travel schedule.) This document is clear, concise, and useful. However, I do have some comments and questions. The TLV structure is carefully laid out so that the Length is on a 16 bit boundary, and the whole thing can be processed on 32 bit boundaries. However, there is no requirement for padding or alignment on TLVs. As such, implementations must allow for someone defining a TLV that takes an odd number of bytes, thus apparently removing all the advantage of the alignment care. What is the point of the Message Identifier? It is set by the sender as they please. It is never sent back to the sender. So the receiver can not do anything with it, since they have no idea how it was set. And the sender can not do anything with it, since they sender never sees it again. This field either needs more explaantion, or needs to be removed. Section 4 on the G-ACh Advertisement Protocol TLVs starts by saying that the TLVS for the GAP protocol itself "represent metadata and processing instructions rather than static data that is meant to be retained." But information like Source Address distinctly appears to be static data meant to be retained. yes, it should be included in each GAP message. But it seems likely that the primary use of having the information would be based on retention / reuse. In section 3, 4th paragraph, the text says The payload of a GAP message is an Application Data Block (ADB) consisting of one or more block elements. But, the payload consists of a fixed header followed by the ADB. Since this fixed header is not inherited from some other document, and is described here, the summary should mention it. This one is probably obvious to folks who have been following the G-ACh work more closely, so it may not be a real issue. The GAP Request TLV (section 4.2) asks for a response. In an MPLS-TP network where, for example, the LSPs and their usage are provisioned, is the assumption that that the end-points know which LSP goes back to the end-point from which the request was received? Such knowledge is presumably NOT on the basis of the Source Address field. Is more explanation of this useful? For the GAP Suppress TLV (section 4.4) I presume a length of 2 and a Duration of 0 would remove all previously specified suppressions? It would seem this should be stated. On a related note, why does this TLV need a duration? Shouldn't the lifetime specified at the application level be sufficient? Also, this is another example of Application 0 information that is retained. If a receiver has data for application A, TLV A-X, and receives a new message with application A, lifetime 0, TLV A-X, is that normally an instruction to delete the stored information about A-X? In order to avoid an argument about key management, would an exemplary (non-normative) reference to the karp keytables draft as a way the key-IDs and keys might be managed be useful? In section 6.2, first paragraph, there should probably be a phrase noting that the Authentication data is set as described in the algorithm below. Yours, Joel M. Halpern From jmh@joelhalpern.com Sat Jun 16 12:10:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F3821F84D8 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:10:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.273 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.273 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v1fhIWL4gBbk for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from morbo.mail.tigertech.net (morbo.mail.tigertech.net [67.131.251.54]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CA021F84A2 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailb2.tigertech.net (mailb2.tigertech.net [208.80.4.154]) by morbo.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C316FA63E3 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FE31C085A for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:10:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at b2.tigertech.net Received: from [10.10.10.105] (pool-71-161-51-75.clppva.btas.verizon.net [71.161.51.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailb2.tigertech.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DDD51C078F for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FDCDA0D.6010204@joelhalpern.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:10:05 -0400 From: "Joel M. Halpern" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [mpls] Comment on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 19:10:13 -0000 In reviewing this document (sorry I am a day late for the WG LC end), a question occurred to me regarding the material in section 2. Is there reason to believe that existing implementations will process received frames on pt-to-pt Ethernet links where the destination address is 01-00-5E-90-00-00? If so, should that reason be mentioned (or am I just missing the obvious here?) If not, is this a safe recommendation? Otherwise, this is clear and useful. Thank you, Joel From rajiva@cisco.com Sat Jun 16 18:52:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FCF21F85D5 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:52:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.689, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4zA3WIU7Ds+Q for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3441121F85C0 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:52:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=rajiva@cisco.com; l=2470; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1339897931; x=1341107531; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date: message-id:in-reply-to:references:from:to:cc; bh=gTl3x5EddBqNHacEbUYDziHyRJj5kaG8wq3yVRMLyng=; b=g1K+8uKvSmbfW7epG+m/YkpOyomsck2p2/iObDNlk8vE+XGx/HMZy2O5 pbrrUBY5MdZ+5+7Uifar0MV26wPm2dAYZ8Y6CcVLU0FtI3YL7gLpXl6aw yjskCFCt9cMjCxFAiFX/kdBtDN4O/V77GNpxwpkcsIowI2/XVDRDmExhO E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFAM023U+tJV2a/2dsb2JhbABFtVWBB4IYAQEBBAEBAQ8BHQo0CwwCAgIBCBEEAQELBhcBBgEaDB8JCAEBBAESCBqHaQuYd556BASLNBSFR2ADiEKaeYFmgn6BOAk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,784,1330905600"; d="scan'208";a="93140636" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Jun 2012 01:52:10 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com [72.163.62.200]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5H1qAbc012488; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 01:52:10 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-212.cisco.com ([72.163.62.219]) by xbh-rcd-201.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:52:10 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:52:08 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5DF53972F7E9134782DCE51624466FE50BD73F76E0@USNAVSXCHMBSC2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 Thread-Index: Ac1HmljznUyESw72Q6unCMPP2wK6jAAU7uygAQ9Wd5A= References: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> <5DF53972F7E9134782DCE51624466FE50BD73F76E0@USNAVSXCHMBSC2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com> From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" To: "Loa Andersson" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jun 2012 01:52:10.0612 (UTC) FILETIME=[CF236340:01CD4C2B] Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 01:52:12 -0000 Loa, I am not aware of any IPR on this. Cheers, Rajiv=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Loa Andersson > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:21 AM > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand- > cv@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 >=20 > Working Group, >=20 > this is to start a one week working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp- > ipv6-07. >=20 > Bckground - the draft was passed working group last call in August last year, > and it should from that perspective be OK to request publication. >=20 > However; >=20 > - it is a bit too long ago > - after the wg last call a discussion, that did not really cause any > changes to the draft, that generated great interest. > The background was that for the 32-bit LSR-id an routeable IPv4 > address has often been used in IPv4 networks. Thre were interest of > using an routeabel IPv6 address for LSR-id in IPv6 networks. > It was decided not to go down this path, since it would have huge > impact on the LDP protocol itself and all the HW implementations. >=20 > This working group last call is limited to the changes between version > -06 and -07. >=20 > Also since this draft was through wg last call before we explicitly started to > poll for IPRs on our draft, we need to do that now. >=20 > Listed authors need to make an explicit statement to the working group and > working group chairs that all the IPRs they now of has been disclosed or that > they are not aware of any IPRs >=20 > Other working group members that har aware of IPRs should state so on the > working group mailing list. >=20 > This working group last call and IPR poll ends June 18th, 2012. >=20 > /Loa > for the mpls wg co-chairs >=20 >=20 > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From muly_i@rad.com Sun Jun 17 09:14:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA51521F85F8 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:14:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.008 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.008 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.589, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GHFTz-HuAkEC for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rad.co.il (mailrelay01.rad.co.il [62.0.23.252]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F03F21F85E0 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Internal Mail-Server by MailRelay01 (envelope-from muly?i@rad.com) with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 17 Jun 2012 18:55:49 +0300 Received: from EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il ([192.114.24.28]) by EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il ([192.114.24.28]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:14:40 +0300 From: Muly Ilan To: "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: LSP ping as bootstrap for G-ACh encapsulated BFD Thread-Index: Ac1MpEwc7lLKqFncQ4ebgze3TT5Trg== Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:14:40 +0000 Message-ID: <32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C27ED@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il> Accept-Language: en-AU, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.17.170.136] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C27EDEXRAD5adradcoil_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Commtouch-Refid: str=0001.0A090204.4FDE0271.0075,ss=1,fgs=0 Subject: [mpls] LSP ping as bootstrap for G-ACh encapsulated BFD X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 16:14:52 -0000 --_000_32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C27EDEXRAD5adradcoil_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, We plan to implement the CC-CV-RDI functionality per RFC6428. Is it mandatory to support LSP ping as a bootstrap for the BFD i.e. using L= SP ping with TLV type 15 in the echo request/reply to exchange discriminato= r values? RFC6428 is quite vague on this issue. It only states "Overall operation is = as specified in RFC 5880 [4] and augmented for MPLS in RFC 5884 [8].". IMHO, the initial value of the remote discriminator can be zero and replace= d with the correct value when the 1st control packet is received from the p= eer. This behavior complies with another statement of the RFC "The transmitted Y= our Discriminator value MUST reflect back the received value of the My Disc= riminator field or be set to zero if that value is not known". Thanks, Muly --_000_32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C27EDEXRAD5adradcoil_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

We plan to implement the CC-CV-RDI functionality per= RFC6428.

 

Is it mandatory to support LSP ping as a bootstrap f= or the BFD i.e. using LSP ping with TLV type 15 in the echo request/reply t= o exchange discriminator values?

 

RFC6428 is quite vague= on this issue. It only states “Overall operation is as specified in RFC 5880 [4] and augme= nted for MPLS in RFC 5884 [8].”.

 

IMHO, the initial value of the remote discriminator = can be zero and replaced with the correct value when the 1st con= trol packet is received from the peer.

This behavior complies with another statement of the= RFC “The transm= itted Your Discriminator value MUST reflect back the received value of the = My Discriminator field or be set to zero if that value is not known”.

 

 

Thanks,

 

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--_000_32CB7A1F0806AB4688CE3F22C29DAC87042C27EDEXRAD5adradcoil_-- From loa@pi.nu Sun Jun 17 10:35:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4AD421F864C for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:35:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pLwGnASIVvK2 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D000921F8638 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B47512A8002; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:35:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FDE156F.9010007@pi.nu> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 19:35:43 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mpls@ietf.org References: <4FC58D13.6050803@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FC58D13.6050803@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team , draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv@tools.ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing@tools.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] Working group last call closed: wg last call on gach-adv and ethernet-addressing drafts X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 17:35:46 -0000 Working Group, this working group last call is closed. We have comments, can the authors please working with the commenters, verify the comment resolutions on the working group mailing list and republish the draft. /Loa (as working group chair) On 2012-05-30 04:59, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > > This is to start a two week working group last call on two drafts: > > - draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv-02; and > - draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-01 > > Please send comments to the mpls working group list. > > The working group last call ends June 15, 2012. > > > Thanks, Loa > > (as MPLS WG co-chair) > -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Sun Jun 17 23:26:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB21821F8466; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:26:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.121 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.121 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.479, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ae+UxAaogg5L; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6BE11E80BA; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 9687472E042; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:26:04 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20120618062604.9687472E042@rfc-editor.org> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 23:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mpls@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [mpls] RFC 6639 on Multiprotocol Label Switching Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) MIB-Based Management Overview X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:26:41 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6639 Title: Multiprotocol Label Switching Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) MIB-Based Management Overview Author: D. King, Ed., M. Venkatesan, Ed. Status: Informational Stream: IETF Date: June 2012 Mailbox: daniel@olddog.co.uk, venkat.mahalingams@gmail.com Pages: 29 Characters: 58669 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-mib-management-overview-08.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6639.txt A range of Management Information Base (MIB) modules has been developed to help model and manage the various aspects of Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) networks. These MIB modules are defined in separate documents that focus on the specific areas of responsibility of the modules that they describe. The MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) is a profile of MPLS functionality specific to the construction of packet-switched transport networks. This document describes the MIB-based architecture for MPLS-TP, indicates the interrelationships between different existing MIB modules that can be leveraged for MPLS-TP network management, and identifies areas where additional MIB modules are required. This document is not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is published for informational purposes. This document is a product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group of the IETF. INFORMATIONAL: This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. To subscribe or unsubscribe, see http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist For searching the RFC series, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.html. For downloading RFCs, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Mon Jun 18 07:21:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5399621F86D8 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:21:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.146 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.146 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.454, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8KVgssvDR64R for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA60321F86CF for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id BC86E72E002; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:21:06 -0700 (PDT) To: james_luciani@mindspring.com, hans@ipunplugged.com, jcucchiara@mindspring.com, stbryant@cisco.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, loa@pi.nu, swallow@cisco.com, rcallon@juniper.net From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20120618142106.BC86E72E002@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mpls@ietf.org, daniel.cohn.ietf@gmail.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [mpls] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC3815 (3261) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:21:37 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3815, "Definitions of Managed Objects for the Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS), Label Distribution Protocol (LDP)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3815&eid=3261 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Daniel Cohn Section: 3.5.9 Original Text ------------- The mplsLdpFecTable is a table which contains FEC (Forwarding Equivalence Class) information. Each entry/row represents a single FEC Element. There is also an LDP LSP FEC Table, mplsLdpLspFecTable, which associates FECs with the LSPs. Corrected Text -------------- The mplsFecTable is a table which contains FEC (Forwarding Equivalence Class) information. Each entry/row represents a single FEC Element. There is also an LDP LSP FEC Table, mplsLdpLspFecTable, which associates FECs with the LSPs. Notes ----- Since draft-06 the mplsLdpFecTable has been renamed mplsFecTable Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC3815 (draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-mib-14) -------------------------------------- Title : Definitions of Managed Objects for the Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS), Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) Publication Date : June 2004 Author(s) : J. Cucchiara, H. Sjostrand, J. Luciani Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Multiprotocol Label Switching Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From wwwrun@rfc-editor.org Mon Jun 18 07:23:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2F921F86D5 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:23:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.163 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.163 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.437, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O+SSIGeS+-4Q for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B1321F86D3 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id C377672E004; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:22:32 -0700 (PDT) To: james_luciani@mindspring.com, hans@ipunplugged.com, jcucchiara@mindspring.com, stbryant@cisco.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, loa@pi.nu, swallow@cisco.com, rcallon@juniper.net From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20120618142232.C377672E004@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mpls@ietf.org, daniel.cohn.ietf@gmail.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [mpls] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC3815 (3262) X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 14:23:06 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC3815, "Definitions of Managed Objects for the Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS), Label Distribution Protocol (LDP)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3815&eid=3262 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Daniel Cohn Section: 4 Original Text ------------- mplsFecLastChange OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX TimeStamp MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "The value of sysUpTime at the time of the most recent addition/deletion of an entry to/from the mplsLdpFectTable or the most recent change in values to any objects in the mplsLdpFecTable. If no such changes have occurred since the last re-initialization of the local management subsystem, then this object contains a zero value." ::= { mplsFecObjects 1 } Corrected Text -------------- mplsFecLastChange OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX TimeStamp MAX-ACCESS read-only STATUS current DESCRIPTION "The value of sysUpTime at the time of the most recent addition/deletion of an entry to/from the mplsFecTable or the most recent change in values to any objects in the mplsFecTable. If no such changes have occurred since the last re-initialization of the local management subsystem, then this object contains a zero value." ::= { mplsFecObjects 1 } Notes ----- Since draft-06 mplsLdpFecTable has been renamed to mplsFecTable Instructions: ------------- This errata is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC3815 (draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-mib-14) -------------------------------------- Title : Definitions of Managed Objects for the Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS), Label Distribution Protocol (LDP) Publication Date : June 2004 Author(s) : J. Cucchiara, H. Sjostrand, J. Luciani Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Multiprotocol Label Switching Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From loa@pi.nu Mon Jun 18 09:03:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A53AA21F86EC for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:03:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7QHE1SuPBhXb for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABE621F86DF for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B0CF2A8002; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:03:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FDF5151.5070102@pi.nu> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:03:29 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team , draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design-02 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:03:30 -0000 Working Group, this is to start a two week working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design-02. Please send your comments to the MPLS wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). We have done a poll among the authors and on the mpls wg mailing list. All the authors has responded that they are not aware any IPR claims on this document. Most of the authors have responded on the wg mailing list, but four authors have only sent the mail to the working group chairs. While this is enough for the wg group chairs to go ahead and start the working group last call, we would also like the remaining authors to send their statement to the working group mailing list. We are not aware of any IPR claims on this document. This working group last call ends July 3rd, 2012. /Loa (for the wg co-chairs) -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From lei.wang@limenetworks.no Mon Jun 18 09:16:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A543121F8621 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:16:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.161 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.161 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_BLANKS=0.041, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id belyEoGZyWY0 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.domeneshop.no (smtp.domeneshop.no [194.63.252.54]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F23221F860B for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:16:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [95.130.216.74] (helo=[192.168.2.129]) by smtp.domeneshop.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SgedA-0005sj-QJ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:16:45 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.2.120421 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:16:40 +0200 From: Lei Wang To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="B_3422888204_45223099" Cc: "Luyuan Fang \(lufang\)" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:16:47 -0000 > Denne meldingen er i MIME-format. Siden e-postleseren ikke forstŒr dette formatet, kan det hende at noe av eller hele denne meldingen ikke kan lese. --B_3422888204_45223099 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3422888204_45250022" --B_3422888204_45250022 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit (Resending after mailinglist subscription) No IPR issues from my side. Regards, Lei Wang -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design Working Group and authors; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to be sent to working group last call. Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Loa (as MPLS WG co-chair) Lei Wang Lime Networks Strandveien 30, 1366 Lysaker Telephone: +47 21 420 430 Mobile: +47 4790 0098 lei.wang@limenetworks.no --B_3422888204_45250022 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
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No IPR issues from my side.

Regards,
Lei Wang

-----Original Message-----
Loa Andersson
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Subject: [mpls] IPR poll= on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design

Working Group and authors;

draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly rea= dy to
be sent t= o working group last call.

is IPR on the documen= t that needs to be disclosed.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to
draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design?

If so, has this IPR been disc= losed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more detail= s).

<= div style=3D"font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium; ">If you are listed as = a document author or contributor please respond to
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Thanks, Loa
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Message-ID: <8CF05297-8ECD-40BF-A768-D9C56AEF40F5@twtelecom.com> References: <4FD6C6F0.3000701@pi.nu>, <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095453D3@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095453D3@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: twtelecom.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:55:00 -0700 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org" , "ms-daikoku@kddi.com" , Lei Wang , "ppan@infinera.com" , "Zhang, Raymond \(Raymond\)" , "zhangjp@shtel.com.cn" , "klyap@xo.com" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , Nabil Bitar Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:34:42 -0000 No IPR issues on my side. My corporation should be "tw telecom" versus " = Time W Telecom". Thanks On Jun 14, 2012, at 9:56 AM, "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" wrot= e: > Hi Loa, > > In addition to the co-authors answered to you and the list, there were > also several folks answered in separate mails which the MPLS WG chairs > were copied, but WG list was not in the copy. We are trying to get > everyone answer to the list. > > Raymond, Ping, Lei, Nurit, and Jianping, > Could you please re-send your responses by replying this mail? Thx. > > Other co-authors who did not respond to the poll yet, please provide > your answers. > > Thanks, > Luyuan > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of >> Loa Andersson >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM >> To: mpls@ietf.org >> Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and- >> design@tools.ietf.org >> Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design >> >> Working Group and authors; >> >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to >> be sent to working group last call. >> >> Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there >> is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. >> >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? >> >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >> >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond > to >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant >> IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response >> has been received from each author and contributor. >> >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author > or >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of >> any >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >> >> Thanks, Loa >> (as MPLS WG co-chair) >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: > loa.andersson@ericsson.com >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu >> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >> +46 767 72 92 13 >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > ------------- The content contained in this electronic message is not intended to constit= ute formation of a contract binding tw telecom. tw telecom will be contract= ually bound only upon execution, by an authorized officer, of a contract in= cluding agreed terms and conditions or by express application of its tariff= s. This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to= which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended r= ecipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message t= o the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, d= istribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have = received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply= ing to the sender of this E-Mail or by telephone. From lei.wang@limenetworks.no Sun Jun 17 13:12:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ABB21F8512 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:12:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.826 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.826 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.988, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_BLANKS=0.041, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HHfWUaWikqHM for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.domeneshop.no (smtp.domeneshop.no [194.63.252.54]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC23C21F84D0 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:12:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 166.80-203-72.nextgentel.com ([80.203.72.166] helo=[10.0.0.68]) by smtp.domeneshop.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SgLpz-0007WK-Od; Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:12:44 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.2.120421 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:12:35 +0200 From: Lei Wang To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="B_3422815963_42425105" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:54:58 -0700 Cc: "Luyuan Fang \(lufang\)" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 20:37:47 -0000 > Denne meldingen er i MIME-format. Siden e-postleseren ikke forstŒr dette formatet, kan det hende at noe av eller hele denne meldingen ikke kan lese. --B_3422815963_42425105 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3422815963_42466548" --B_3422815963_42466548 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit No IPR issues from my side. Regards, Lei Wang -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design@tools.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design Working Group and authors; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to be sent to working group last call. Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Loa (as MPLS WG co-chair) Lei Wang Lime Networks Strandveien 30, 1366 Lysaker Telephone: +47 21 420 430 Mobile: +47 4790 0098 lei.wang@limenetworks.no --B_3422815963_42466548 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
No IPR issues from my side.

Regards,
Lei Wang

-----Original Message-----
Loa Andersson
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM
To: mpls@ietf.org
<= div style=3D"font-family: Consolas; font-size: medium; ">Subject: [mpls] IPR p= oll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design

Working Group and authors;

draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly = ready to
be sen= t to working group last call.

Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there
is IPR on the docu= ment that needs to be disclosed.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to
draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design?

If so, has this IPR been d= isclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more det= ails).

If you are listed = as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or n= ot you are aware of any relevant
IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage unti= l a response
ha= s been received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not li= sted as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of a= ny
IPR that has= not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thanks, Loa
(as MPLS WG co-chair)

=
Lei Wang
Lime Networks
Strandveien 30, 1366 Lysaker
= Telephone: +47 21 420 430
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" size=3D"3">Mobile: +47 4790 0098
lei.wang@limenetworks.no

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(205.158.160.37) by CH1EHSMHS013.bigfish.com (10.43.70.13) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:00:00 +0000 Received: from VAHERNHC30.corp.inthosts.net ([10.38.20.49]) by TXPLANGWOUT02.pla.dc.xo.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:00:01 -0500 Received: from VAHERNEXCH20.corp.inthosts.net ([fe80::ad07:24b4:7c30:68d5]) by VAHERNHC30.corp.inthosts.net ([fe80::9159:a1ba:82d4:91d8%13]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:00:56 -0400 From: "Yap, Kam Lee" Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal Priority: normal To: Loa Andersson , "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design thread-index: Ac1IVMnjz5c+o7FITyGPtm3RGuCWzAB7kJpwAA63Q4AAu2KXsA== Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:00:55 +0000 Message-ID: References: <4FD6C6F0.3000701@pi.nu> <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25095453D3@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> <4FDA2ECB.8050800@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FDA2ECB.8050800@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.31.118.47] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2012 16:00:01.0312 (UTC) FILETIME=[6AD9F200:01CD4D6B] X-OriginatorOrg: xo.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 13:54:58 -0700 Cc: mpls@ietf.org, ms-daikoku@kddi.com, Lei Wang , ppan@infinera.com, "Zhang, Raymond \(Raymond\)" , zhangjp@shtel.com.cn, henry.yu@twtelecom.com, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, Nabil Bitar Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 16:01:23 -0000 No IPR issue here. thanks, Kam Lee Yap > -----Original Message----- > From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu] > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:35 PM > To: Luyuan Fang (lufang) > Cc: mpls@ietf.org; Nabil Bitar; Zhang, Raymond (Raymond); ms- > daikoku@kddi.com; ppan@infinera.com; Mach Chen; Dan Frost (danfrost); Yap= , > Kam Lee; henry.yu@twtelecom.com; zhangjp@shtel.com.cn; Sprecher, Nurit > (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon); Lei Wang; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design >=20 > Luyuan, >=20 > the only two that has not answered (as far as I can see) are: >=20 > Kam Lee Yap, XO Communications > Henry Yu, Time W Telecom >=20 > I appreciate your efforts to have the statements made on the list. >=20 > /Loa >=20 > On 2012-06-14 17:56, Luyuan Fang (lufang) wrote: > > Hi Loa, > > > > In addition to the co-authors answered to you and the list, there were > > also several folks answered in separate mails which the MPLS WG chairs > > were copied, but WG list was not in the copy. We are trying to get > > everyone answer to the list. > > > > Raymond, Ping, Lei, Nurit, and Jianping, > > Could you please re-send your responses by replying this mail? Thx. > > > > Other co-authors who did not respond to the poll yet, please provide > > your answers. > > > > Thanks, > > Luyuan > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > > Of > >> Loa Andersson > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:35 AM > >> To: mpls@ietf.org > >> Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and- > >> design@tools.ietf.org > >> Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design > >> > >> Working Group and authors; > >> > >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to > >> be sent to working group last call. > >> > >> Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there > >> is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. > >> > >> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > >> draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? > >> > >> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > >> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > >> > >> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond > > to > >> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > >> IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > >> has been received from each author and contributor. > >> > >> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author > > or > >> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of > >> any > >> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > >> > >> Thanks, Loa > >> (as MPLS WG co-chair) > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> Loa Andersson email: > > loa.andersson@ericsson.com > >> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > >> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > >> +46 767 72 92 13 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mpls mailing list > >> mpls@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >=20 > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 From rajiv.ietf@gmail.com Mon Jun 18 19:47:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFD211E80BB for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:47:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VcMFy+UBMMGq for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gg0-f172.google.com (mail-gg0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFCEB11E8080 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ggnc4 with SMTP id c4so4708031ggn.31 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:47:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=huvQVQ80yQZXb9RCHZXGbT5QknfOHCi94erjI5fXchY=; b=XcG5lekJdVC8zGgc12v1jH9BxVr77FzHf8Uu0TxpWuGlJbhESleHymCBZtv5IGFAMi cwj9Li5YOA6RUtR4t8WLnQrZub3hHTUxzQ0Hkd0E82fc7yz47jSaOJZR3FY/FDeu5aQy ConRS0hAGLMOfNylvZ70QBzlyrefCNy0cEdbjHwow1J9W6j6IL257BALP2weqUBfvsE4 GhK5xEzRlhPbzzPkYsKR5A8K0XJ8dLX/D9AKxxD4OyBnw+O/Yx4XYlokIFOzvAtDFcwi KuxS+yioE0yzBYVeFt1Bnod+ObE/C7rJ8xxh75XGjHH6ZlRyyMOOWwWQzyAjMhFYKJTE qlAg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.76.137 with SMTP id k9mr10241210igw.25.1340074020178; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.39.237 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:47:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52B0D42F4BADB144B850705C4549F6EA017F6C65@dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <52B0D42F4BADB144B850705C4549F6EA017F6C65@dfweml511-mbs.china.huawei.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 22:47:00 -0400 Message-ID: From: Rajiv Papneja To: Loa Andersson , mpls@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f23433bf20b9704c2ca4bf6 Subject: Re: [mpls] FW: wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 02:47:02 -0000 --e89a8f23433bf20b9704c2ca4bf6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Loa, I am not aware of any IPR related to this I-D. Thanks, - Rajiv > > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Loa Andersson > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:21 AM > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 > > Working Group, > > this is to start a one week working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07. > > Bckground - the draft was passed working group last call in August > last year, and it should from that perspective be OK to request > publication. > > However; > > - it is a bit too long ago > - after the wg last call a discussion, that did not really cause any > changes to the draft, that generated great interest. > The background was that for the 32-bit LSR-id an routeable IPv4 > address has often been used in IPv4 networks. Thre were interest of > using an routeabel IPv6 address for LSR-id in IPv6 networks. > It was decided not to go down this path, since it would have huge > impact on the LDP protocol itself and all the HW implementations. > > This working group last call is limited to the changes between version > -06 and -07. > > Also since this draft was through wg last call before we explicitly > started to poll for IPRs on our draft, we need to do that now. > > Listed authors need to make an explicit statement to the working group > and working group chairs that all the IPRs they now of has been > disclosed or that they are not aware of any IPRs > > Other working group members that har aware of IPRs should state so on > the working group mailing list. > > This working group last call and IPR poll ends June 18th, 2012. > > /Loa > for the mpls wg co-chairs > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > --e89a8f23433bf20b9704c2ca4bf6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Loa,

I am not aware of any IPR related to = this I-D.=A0

Thanks,
- Rajiv



-----Original Message-----
From: mpls-bounc= es@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 2:21 AM
To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: mpls-ch= airs@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv@tools.iet= f.org
Subject: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07
Working Group,

this is to start a one week working group last call on
draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07.

Bckground - the draft was passed working group last call in August
last year, and it should from that perspective be OK to request
publication.

However;

- it is a bit too long ago
- after the wg last call a discussion, that did not really cause any
=A0 changes to the draft, that generated great interest.
=A0 The background was that for the 32-bit LSR-id an routeable IPv4
=A0 address has often been used in IPv4 networks. Thre were interest of =A0 using an routeabel =A0IPv6 address for LSR-id in IPv6 networks.
=A0 It was decided not to go down this path, since it would have huge
=A0 impact on the LDP protocol itself and all the HW implementations.

This working group last call is limited to the changes between version
-06 and -07.

Also since this draft was through wg last call before we explicitly
started to poll for IPRs on our draft, we need to do that now.

Listed authors need to make an explicit statement to the working group
and working group chairs that all the IPRs they now of has been
disclosed or that they are not aware of any IPRs

Other working group members that har aware of IPRs should state so on
the working group mailing list.

This working group last call and IPR poll ends June 18th, 2012.

/Loa
for the mpls wg co-chairs


--


Loa Andersson =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 email: loa.andersson@eri= csson.com
Sr Strategy and Standards Manager =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0loa@pi.nu
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Loa Andersson writes: > Working Group and authors; > > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design - is nearly ready to > be sent to working group last call. > > Before the working group last, we would like to check whether there > is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thanks, Loa > (as MPLS WG co-chair) From rcallon@juniper.net Wed Jun 20 07:08:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC5821F875A for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:08:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.435 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.435 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.163, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4jQY810GpTG4 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og104.obsmtp.com (exprod7og104.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.161]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CC121F8743 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob104.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT+HZSpglFjukcZ2jVTLwx07RgrzVJRZL@postini.com; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:08:11 PDT Received: from P-CLDFE01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.59) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:06:46 -0700 Received: from p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.24) by p-cldfe01-hq.jnpr.net (172.24.192.59) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:06:46 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::d0d1:653d:5b91:a123%11]) with mapi; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:06:45 -0400 From: Ross Callon To: "'mpls@ietf.org'" Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:06:43 -0400 Thread-Topic: Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp Thread-Index: Ac1O7ewcHjJvSpZkQUCneMr882zwBw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C7120F219DEMBX01WFjnprn_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:08:12 -0000 --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C7120F219DEMBX01WFjnprn_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Working Group, This is to start a poll to see if there is support to adopt draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp as an mpls working group draft. Pleased send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@iet= f.org). Due to the upcoming July 4th holiday in the US the poll will be extended fo= r an additional week (beyond the normal two week poll). This poll ends at t= he end of the day July 11, 2012 Ross for the mpls wg chairs --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C7120F219DEMBX01WFjnprn_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Working Group,
 
This is to start a poll to see if there is support to adopt
 
   draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp
 
as an mpls working group draft.
 
Pleased send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org<= /font>).
 
Due to the upcoming July 4th holiday in the US the poll will be extend= ed for an additional week (beyond the normal two week poll). This poll ends= at the end of the day July 11, 2012
 
Ross
for the mpls wg chairs
 
 
 --_000_DF7F294AF4153D498141CBEFADB17704C7120F219DEMBX01WFjnprn_-- From Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com Wed Jun 20 07:11:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F0B721F8724 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:11:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tsi5OL2fZvyD for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.bemta3.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta3.messagelabs.com [195.245.230.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A0021F870B for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 07:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [85.158.138.51:3733] by server-9.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 64/E2-10419-FF9D1EF4; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:11:11 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1340201464!28715583!1 X-Originating-IP: [168.87.1.157] X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.10; banners=-,-,- Received: (qmail 3122 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2012 14:11:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fridlpvsb005.ecitele.com) (168.87.1.157) by server-9.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 2012 14:11:04 -0000 X-AuditID: a8571406-b7f656d0000010a7-9f-4fe1d9f6af6b Received: from FRIDWPPCH002.ecitele.com (fridwppch002.ecitele.com [10.1.16.53]) by fridlpvsb005.ecitele.com (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id AA.FD.04263.6F9D1EF4; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:11:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from FRIDWPPMB001.ecitele.com ([169.254.3.23]) by FRIDWPPCH002.ecitele.com ([10.1.16.53]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:10:58 +0200 From: Alexander Vainshtein To: "kireeti@juniper.net" , "swallow@cisco.com" Thread-Topic: A question about RFC 4379 "Detecting MPLS Data Plane Failures" Thread-Index: Ac1O7oIIKGcMgCvNTI29FIMsYNRQ/A== Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:10:56 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.4.42.92] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F9336571731ADE42A5397FC831CEAA02093A51FRIDWPPMB001ecite_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA3VTbUgTYRzv2W2303Z1zukeh8RxEUHlmJSwwI0KQ6XEyKKQcF3b03a03Y3d NO1Lyz5E9iEL6WUUWa1Se7HWh5L8YCaUL5QfknzrRdQwCwmjV1F6zksTovv0e/6/F37P3f8o wjhOWihBDKOQyPs5MlGbCBZZMr71DRXaGtpS7T8exvX2/mv1OvtATSXYQOTVTN3T5cViPzV5 ryp79NuI4gjI5kVRCvNhxHqQ7HZw20JCGe+u4FjB4+AyOTbo590ogMSwg+ODQSR6OGci+8+T jWWCyCLRLXkE0evg8osKM+z2rPUZmZxzh0+QWZQR4AU/G0CyzHsRiydKb9Gz9w7h+9w9qA++ Lyi/0P1FFwEnc6pAAgWZdXD6Ra1Wxamw+00jWQUSKSPzEsA7LT/+HGIA9rUO6hQVyThg/OZr UsEmphjePvJs1k0w2+HF9lGg4GQmF3Y1xTCmsGYrPNa5W5Vb4YeRBr2CtcwKeOL61dlImimA kcHp2RiAS3zvuKVRI82wf+SSRi3HwFjzC0LFKfDD8IxOxctgZf1LvaqXYPNME6lmJsH28yN/ LpYGH9f1aquBKbogNrrAEl1gUedrYO2jSVLFq+H1yx+JOdzVMqxZOK8F+gYA94cEjz9YJu+z 2bKsyC2EkR9Z3VIgDvDC1O0ykQ9BpNraChgKcAa6Lmuo0Kjjy+SKQCtIozRcCl3Qi0dL9kme Ch8v+1yhUj+SWwGkCM5Ej93FHO3hKw6hkDRHbcYv8RRhWeyWlE8cdq212f5/4Mx043ZnoZHx 4iU8gFAQheZy0imKg7QTr7MxKYS8qHy/4A//pTVUglLDgGtkKxpaDvIBWfCqfAdIs5jpVIVg FMJXKs57x4EZXzaZzlFYA17Eedc4DtTgwF+575RA/GPMU5YIcG05ntZ5+Keh7Yk0tVNX0nFm wFU21nHWLK0sKunquxi9v0NX3jgqnK4mD6cEl5j6Z/wPiNHMo3lvS5InPp2Tx6n0XNOeUp9L POhi4w5X9aaJZ2uuTManlkeeHml6PrA0bLj69Ub7op4ioq3zU1vW4gsbnMWu6ZXW/OaR5vSN M1FOK/v4zFVESOZ/AyHhmPP9AwAA Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , Evgeny Sandler Subject: [mpls] A question about RFC 4379 "Detecting MPLS Data Plane Failures" X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:11:15 -0000 --_000_F9336571731ADE42A5397FC831CEAA02093A51FRIDWPPMB001ecite_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Kireeti and Gorge, hi! My colleague and I have found the following test in Section 4.5 "Sending an= MPLS Echo Reply" of RFC 4379: If the Reply Mode in the echo request is "Reply via an IPv4 UDP packet with= Router Alert", then the IP header MUST contain the Router Alert IP option.= If the reply is sent over an LSP, the topmost label MUST in this case be t= he Router Alert label (1) (see [LABEL-STACK]). I think that this text admits two different interpretations: 1. Always add the Router Alert label on top of the label stack of the= LSP thru which the MPLS Echo reply is sent 2. Add the Router Alert label on top of the label stack of the LSP thr= u which the MPLS Echo reply is sent if the requested reply mode is "Reply wi= th Router Alert". The ambiguity exists because: 1. The text is broken into two sentences separated by full stop 2. The meaning of "this case" in the 2nd sentence is not clear. My gut feeling is that the 2nd interpretation is correct, but no the 1st. D= id I miss something? If not, do you think a new erratum is required? (I've c= hecked the current ones, and they do not deal with this issue). Regards, and lots of thanks in advance, Sasha This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains informat= ion which is CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If yo= u have received this transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phon= e or fax, and then delete the original and all copies thereof. --_000_F9336571731ADE42A5397FC831CEAA02093A51FRIDWPPMB001ecite_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Kireeti and Gorge, hi!

 

My colleague and I have found the following test in S= ection 4.5 “Sending an MPLS Echo Reply” of RFC 43= 79:

If the Reply= Mode in the echo request is "Reply via an IPv4 UDP packet with Router= Alert", then the IP header MUST contain the Router Alert IP option.  If the reply is sent over an LSP, the topmost label= MUST in this case be the Router Alert label (1) (see [LABEL-STACK]).

 

I think that this text a= dmits two different interpretations:

1.       Always add the Route= r Alert label on top of the label stack of the LSP thru which the MPLS Echo= reply is sent

2.       Add the Router Alert label= on top of the label stack of the LSP thru which the MPLS Echo reply is sent if the requested reply mode is “Reply with Router Alert”.=

 

The ambiguity exists because:

1.     &n= bsp; The text is broken into two= sentences separated by full stop

2.     &n= bsp; The meaning of “this= case” in the 2nd sentence is not clear.

 

My gut feeling is that the 2nd interpretat= ion is correct, but no the 1st.  Did I miss something? If no= t, do you think a new erratum is required? (I’ve checked the current o= nes, and they do not deal with this issue).

 

Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,

     Sasha

 

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--_000_F9336571731ADE42A5397FC831CEAA02093A51FRIDWPPMB001ecite_-- From loa@pi.nu Wed Jun 20 09:28:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D251A21F8714 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:28:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GD4SgHDHSMWB for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A405721F8713 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46A9E2A8002; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:28:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FE1FA37.2060505@pi.nu> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:28:39 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" References: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FD58E33.6080204@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] wg last call and IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07 X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:28:45 -0000 Working Group, this working last call has been closed. We have had comments, could the authors plese work with the commenter to resolve the comments and if necessary republish a new version of the draft! /Loa On 2012-06-11 08:20, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > this is to start a one week working group last call on > draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-ipv6-07. > > Bckground - the draft was passed working group last call in August > last year, and it should from that perspective be OK to request > publication. > > However; > > - it is a bit too long ago > - after the wg last call a discussion, that did not really cause any > changes to the draft, that generated great interest. > The background was that for the 32-bit LSR-id an routeable IPv4 > address has often been used in IPv4 networks. Thre were interest of > using an routeabel IPv6 address for LSR-id in IPv6 networks. > It was decided not to go down this path, since it would have huge > impact on the LDP protocol itself and all the HW implementations. > > This working group last call is limited to the changes between version > -06 and -07. > > Also since this draft was through wg last call before we explicitly > started to poll for IPRs on our draft, we need to do that now. > > Listed authors need to make an explicit statement to the working group > and working group chairs that all the IPRs they now of has been > disclosed or that they are not aware of any IPRs > > Other working group members that har aware of IPRs should state so on > the working group mailing list. > > This working group last call and IPR poll ends June 18th, 2012. > > /Loa > for the mpls wg co-chairs > > -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From loa@pi.nu Wed Jun 20 09:40:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58FBA21F8755 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:40:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S9Z+c-cPn+w6 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9874B21F8743 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 913CE2A8002; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:40:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FE1FD06.2020405@pi.nu> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 18:40:38 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" , Adrian Farrel , draft-raza-mpls-ldp-applicability-label-adv@tools.ietf.org, "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-raza-mpls-ldp-applicability-label-adv X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:40:40 -0000 Working Group and authors; draft-raza-mpls-ldp-applicability-label-adv - is nearly ready to be polled to see if we have support to make it a working group document. Before the poll, we would like to check whether there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-raza-mpls-ldp-applicability-label-adv? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Loa (as MPLS WG co-chair) -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From skraza@cisco.com Wed Jun 20 09:41:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 918B221F84F0 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:41:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.532 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.532 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7L4gabdT2vEz for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B67721F8575 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:41:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=skraza@cisco.com; l=1357; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1340210509; x=1341420109; h=date:subject:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:mime-version: content-transfer-encoding; bh=9WXZxnwcZOob7r3NBzVK+COllG8IyWDxyW0StaGe9CE=; b=IY8rdn6KXraooC3QD8xXsaqT4o2iZ9TOWdelSU65dYWdkZG8NwDlNAix LV2RKohdZ1FEtPwvAKtab+FzApWopyFuODdG1WyhFJhyQIWmLI4mbNtXm 20GcWBGFRPCIXkBMOR9djXR/re/Z6kQy6SOHM1JD5nIjUGvqA+KErmKLG 8=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhkGAPv74U+tJV2c/2dsb2JhbABCA7VNAoEHghgBAQEDARIBJwIBGBEOCg0BCIEdAQEEARIih2QFmRWgQ44ogyEDlSqOGyeBP4J7gUM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,445,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="94225513" Received: from rcdn-core-5.cisco.com ([173.37.93.156]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Jun 2012 16:41:48 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-102.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-102.cisco.com [72.163.62.139]) by rcdn-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5KGfm8U001368; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:41:48 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-103.cisco.com ([72.163.62.145]) by xbh-rcd-102.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:41:48 -0500 Received: from 161.44.213.83 ([161.44.213.83]) by XMB-RCD-103.cisco.com ([72.163.62.145]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:41:48 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.32.0.111121 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:41:47 -0400 From: Kamran Raza To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" , Adrian Farrel , , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-raza-mpls-ldp-applicability-label-adv Thread-Index: Ac1PA5Uv3/CbDTLusU+Wx4r7w5sa1Q== In-Reply-To: <4FE1FD06.2020405@pi.nu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jun 2012 16:41:48.0840 (UTC) FILETIME=[9647DA80:01CD4F03] Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-raza-mpls-ldp-applicability-label-adv X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:41:50 -0000 I am not aware of any IPR on this draft. Thx. On 12-06-20 12:40 PM, "Loa Andersson" wrote: > Working Group and authors; > > draft-raza-mpls-ldp-applicability-label-adv - is nearly ready to > be polled to see if we have support to make it a working group > document. > > Before the poll, we would like to check whether there is IPR on > the document that needs to be disclosed. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-raza-mpls-ldp-applicability-label-adv? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thanks, Loa > (as MPLS WG co-chair) -- Syed Kamran Raza Technical Leader, SPRSG IOS-XR Routing (MPLS) Cisco Systems, Inc., Kanata, ON, K2K 3E8, Canada Ph: +1 (613) 254-4520 http://www.cisco.com From lufang@cisco.com Wed Jun 20 17:07:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A0E11E808C for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:07:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hrNAA37HPZ4v for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60FF11E8079 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 17:07:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=lufang@cisco.com; l=7049; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1340237272; x=1341446872; h=mime-version:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: references:from:to; bh=dLBj6hcEJGzHWSmhrSV44nk2o2Bl/jQNCMiQx8Wl2V0=; b=BPAXm7rTJKAfrE69KXyBo1asbD4jNMoYXRvjbZpgLMdS9TV+3ldur/AX A6UgPUQWxcfv/gDkcmaq8HtGLxV6FPIgZIY38S+jtxW7QncVJ5XMvMCaq k/uK4LFA9v69W95gdOxH1m+EDV05RdtK8VYhSk92ZKKEbTN0+pwsFVQXy k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFAPVk4k+tJXG8/2dsb2JhbABFgkWzE4EHghgBAQEEEgEJEQM+GwIBCA4DBAEBCwYXAQYBRQkIAQEEARIIGodpmWugMYsuhTtgA4hGmn+BZoJ9 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,447,1336348800"; d="scan'208,217";a="94337730" Received: from rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com ([173.37.113.188]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Jun 2012 00:07:51 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-102.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-102.cisco.com [72.163.62.139]) by rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5L07pq4005042; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:07:51 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-201.cisco.com ([72.163.62.208]) by xbh-rcd-102.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:07:51 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD4F41.E598AA5B" Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 19:07:47 -0500 Message-ID: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25096C1B3D@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp Thread-Index: Ac1O7ewcHjJvSpZkQUCneMr882zwBwAU+CSw References: From: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" To: "Ross Callon" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2012 00:07:51.0134 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5D9D7E0:01CD4F41] Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 00:07:52 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD4F41.E598AA5B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Support. Luyuan =20 From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ross Callon Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:07 PM To: 'mpls@ietf.org' Subject: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp =20 Working Group, =20 This is to start a poll to see if there is support to adopt =20 draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp =20 as an mpls working group draft. =20 Pleased send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). =20 Due to the upcoming July 4th holiday in the US the poll will be extended for an additional week (beyond the normal two week poll). This poll ends at the end of the day July 11, 2012 =20 Ross for the mpls wg chairs =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD4F41.E598AA5B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Support.

Luyuan

 

From:= mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of = Ross Callon
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:07 PM
To: 'mpls@ietf.org'
Subject: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp

 

Working Group,

 <= /p>

This is to start a poll to see if there is support to = adopt

 <= /p>

   draft-n= apierala-mpls-targeted-mldp

 <= /p>

as an mpls working group draft.

 <= /p>

Pleased send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

 <= /p>

Due to the upcoming July 4th holiday in the US the poll will be extended for an additional week (beyond the normal two week poll). This poll ends at the = end of the day July 11, 2012

 <= /p>

Ross

for the mpls wg chairs

 

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01CD4F41.E598AA5B-- From rajiva@cisco.com Wed Jun 20 20:21:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76E111E80BD for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:21:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.35 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.35 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.215, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uPBnvoaz2uFD for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:21:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAD411E8073 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 20:21:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=rajiva@cisco.com; l=7678; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1340248903; x=1341458503; h=subject:references:content-transfer-encoding:from: in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:cc:mime-version; bh=53m1bbmr0DUicGg1tOD/mD3v46XmZ78rutPEhcQL4Xk=; b=KkZUMX59GDZrrM1S5ZGorSQ+vkJnHKd1zyVpu9U9kox1Si54pe53pjE2 ZTqoCwPw/JqOZ7t+6Kk6Nd086ZbZM3UPZlNbB5N/OMKwzXA7pjStie9ab W5uiJbQZqkJR7MT56t53pBZ/WMiyOiFYmKzNG7BVb9hfkA5zxoM+zSb1T M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYFAM2S4k+tJXG9/2dsb2JhbABFgkWDE69/AoEHghgBAQEDAQEBAQ8BEApBCwULAgEIEQQBASgDAgInHwkIAQEEEyKHZAULmVKNF5MMBIsuhQkyYAOIE40XjhuBZoJ7 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,449,1336348800"; d="scan'208,217";a="94443866" Received: from rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com ([173.37.113.189]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Jun 2012 03:21:43 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com [72.163.62.201]) by rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5L3Lhu2027258; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 03:21:43 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-212.cisco.com ([72.163.62.219]) by xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:21:43 -0500 Received: from 72.163.62.219 ([72.163.62.219]) by XMB-RCD-212.cisco.com ([72.163.62.219]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 03:21:42 +0000 References: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25096C1B3D@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-43451787-C763-4D19-9821-87F169513EAD"; charset="iso-8859-1" Thread-Topic: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption fordraft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp Thread-Index: Ac1PXPrZQ1P7x7zBShCPPfMU8uiTog== In-Reply-To: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25096C1B3D@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> Message-ID: <22505235-E7BA-4B48-ADDF-9C319F5B148A@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:21:36 -0400 To: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2012 03:21:43.0568 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB526900:01CD4F5C] Cc: Ross Callon , mpls@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption fordraft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 03:21:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail-43451787-C763-4D19-9821-87F169513EAD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Support Cheers, Rajiv Sent from my Phone On Jun 20, 2012, at 8:08 PM, "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" wrote= : > Support. > Luyuan > =20 > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ro= ss Callon > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:07 PM > To: 'mpls@ietf.org' > Subject: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mld= p > =20 > Working Group, > =20 > This is to start a poll to see if there is support to adopt > =20 > draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp > =20 > as an mpls working group draft. > =20 > Pleased send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@ie= tf.org). > =20 > Due to the upcoming July 4th holiday in the US the poll will be extended f= or an additional week (beyond the normal two week poll). This poll ends at t= he end of the day July 11, 2012 > =20 > Ross > for the mpls wg chairs > =20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls --Apple-Mail-43451787-C763-4D19-9821-87F169513EAD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Support

Cheers,
Rajiv

Sent from my Phone

On Jun 20, 2012, at 8:08 PM, "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" <lufang@cisco.com> wrote:

Support.

Luyuan

 

From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ross Callon
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:07 PM
To: 'mpls@ietf.org'
Subject: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp

 

Working Group,

 

This is to start a poll to see if there is support to adopt

 

   draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp

 

as an mpls working group draft.

 

Pleased send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

 

Due to the upcoming July 4th holiday in the US the poll will be extended for an additional week (beyond the normal two week poll). This poll ends at the end of the day July 11, 2012

 

Ross

for the mpls wg chairs

 

 

_______________________________________________
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--Apple-Mail-43451787-C763-4D19-9821-87F169513EAD-- From skraza@cisco.com Thu Jun 21 07:20:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E9921F86E8 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:20:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.833 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.833 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.699, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8hxMiplt3Eax for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5CF21F86DE for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:20:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=skraza@cisco.com; l=3970; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1340288400; x=1341498000; h=date:subject:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=aQ2SJOPjY5MrcxBdY+LNw75p3fYuc12VNUJzXM2U/ik=; b=O9WKNFzr2UawqEbM9/wog6U9FXmuVAGFyG7f7bISNlQB4V/dfetHnLu3 fwQPQ2qVom1nnE4Vc508EKwLZHCvIeAKC1Ky3ebbYXGtZYC/U9pgDYHfw 6H+QtZXqJncbVBkupgnSVTnCoHgCcH3FBhyTRiiezXZ65lmcpblRFNAkV E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIFAJgs40+tJV2Y/2dsb2JhbABCA4JFsXuBEQKBB4IYAQEBAwEBAQEPASoYEQgQDQEIBAoxLh8RAQEEARIih2QFC5oFoA6LLoJ8gyEDlSqOGyeBP4J7 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,451,1336348800"; d="scan'208,217";a="94585366" Received: from rcdn-core-1.cisco.com ([173.37.93.152]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Jun 2012 14:20:00 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-302.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-302.cisco.com [72.163.63.9]) by rcdn-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5LEJxEN009373; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:19:59 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-103.cisco.com ([72.163.62.145]) by xbh-rcd-302.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 21 Jun 2012 09:19:59 -0500 Received: from 161.44.213.83 ([161.44.213.83]) by XMB-RCD-103.cisco.com ([72.163.62.145]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:19:59 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.32.0.111121 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:19:59 -0400 From: Kamran Raza To: Ross Callon , "'mpls@ietf.org'" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp Thread-Index: Ac1O7ewcHjJvSpZkQUCneMr882zwBwAywRSc In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3423118800_1621294" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2012 14:19:59.0784 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0E6B280:01CD4FB8] Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 14:20:01 -0000 > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3423118800_1621294 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Support. On 12-06-20 10:06 AM, "Ross Callon" wrote: > Working Group, > > This is to start a poll to see if there is support to adopt > > draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp > > as an mpls working group draft. > > Pleased send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list > (mpls@ietf.org ). > > Due to the upcoming July 4th holiday in the US the poll will be extended for > an additional week (beyond the normal two week poll). This poll ends at the > end of the day July 11, 2012 > > Ross > for the mpls wg chairs > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls -- Syed Kamran Raza Technical Leader, SPRSG IOS-XR Routing (MPLS) Cisco Systems, Inc., Kanata, ON, K2K 3E8, Canada Ph: +1 (613) 254-4520 http://www.cisco.com --B_3423118800_1621294 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-ml= dp Support.


On 12-06-20 10:06 AM, "Ross Callon" <rcallon@juniper.net> wrote:

Working Group,
 
This is to start a poll to see if there is support to adopt
 
   draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp
 
as an mpls working group draft.
 
Pleased send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org <mailto:mpls@ietf.org> ).
 
Due to the upcoming July 4th holiday in the US the poll will be extended fo= r an additional week (beyond the normal two week poll). This poll ends at th= e end of the day July 11, 2012
 
Ross
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--B_3423118800_1621294-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Jun 22 07:31:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A7A21F8568; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:31:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.507 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.092, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vc5etLvo0cVk; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E2621F8566; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:31:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.21 Message-ID: <20120622143151.9815.10110.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 07:31:51 -0700 Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-mldp-in-band-signaling-06.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:31:52 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Gro= up of the IETF. Title : Multipoint LDP in-band signaling for Point-to-Multipoint= and Multipoint- to-Multipoint Label Switched Paths Author(s) : IJsbrand Wijnands Toerless Eckert Nicolai Leymann Maria Napierala Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-mldp-in-band-signaling-06.txt Pages : 14 Date : 2012-06-22 Abstract: Consider an IP multicast tree, constructed by Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM), needs to pass through an MPLS domain in which Multipoint LDP (mLDP) Point-to-Multipoint and/or Multipoint-to- Multipoint Labels Switched Paths (LSPs) can be created. The part of the IP multicast tree that traverses the MPLS domain can be instantiated as a multipoint LSP. When a PIM Join message is received at the border of the MPLS domain, information from that message is encoded into mLDP messages. When the mLDP messages reach the border of the next IP domain, the encoded information is used to generate PIM messages that can be sent through the IP domain. The result is an IP multicast tree consisting of a set of IP multicast sub-trees that are spliced together with a multipoint LSP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-mldp-in-band-signaling There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-mldp-in-band-signaling-06 A diff from previous version is available at: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-mpls-mldp-in-band-signaling= -06 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From loa@pi.nu Sun Jun 24 00:31:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C2821F86B2 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:31:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_SUB_OBFU_OTHER=0.135, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QTJZaFFkWQ+w for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA45521F867B for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7BA02A8003; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 09:31:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FE6C249.40802@pi.nu> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 09:31:21 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" References: <4FD05B14.1090004@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FD05B14.1090004@pi.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team Subject: [mpls] Closed: Re: poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 07:31:27 -0000 Working Group, this poll has ended and we have a new working group document. Can the authors please publish *the same version* of the document as we polled as draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03. /Loa as wg co-chair On 2012-06-07 09:41, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group, > > this is to start a two week poll on draft-vkst-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-03.txt > to see if we want to adopt it as a working group document. > > The poll ends June 23. > > Please send comments to the MPLS working group mailing list. > > /Loa > as wg co-chair -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Jun 24 23:41:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2255521F8568; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:41:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.566 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.566 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZhV5qEQPXbio; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B178821F850C; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:41:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.21 Message-ID: <20120625064107.29831.41550.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:41:07 -0700 Cc: mpls@ietf.org Subject: [mpls] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-00.txt X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:41:15 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Gro= up of the IETF. Title : MPLS-TP Operations, Administration, and Management (OAM)= Identifiers Management Information Base (MIB) Author(s) : Sam Aldrin Venkatesan Mahalingam Kannan KV Sampath Thomas D. Nadeau Sami Boutros Ping Pan Filename : draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-00.txt Pages : 25 Date : 2012-06-24 Abstract: This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB) for use with network management protocols in the Internet community. In particular, it describes Operations, Administration, and Management (OAM) identifiers related managed objects for Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) based Transport Profile (TP). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-id-mib-00 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From loa@pi.nu Tue Jun 26 02:48:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF8921F85C3 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:48:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.592 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.592 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WFKFPaCZHc4C for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015D421F85A8 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 02:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CCF6A2A8003; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:48:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FE9855D.1030004@pi.nu> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:48:13 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:48:17 -0000 Working Group and authors; the authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers-03 has asked that the draft is working group last called. Before the working group last call, we would like to check whether there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. This poll ends July 10th. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Loa (as MPLS WG co-chair) -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From lmartini@cisco.com Tue Jun 26 11:15:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15DB21F8559; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:15:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6pzkrMweEqxA; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from napoleon.monoski.com (napoleon.monoski.com [70.90.113.113]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1593C21F8551; Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:15:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from confusion.monoski.com (confusion.monoski.com [209.245.27.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by napoleon.monoski.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5QHHA7o020332 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:17:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4FE9FC09.7070208@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 12:14:33 -0600 From: Luca Martini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Callon References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-review@ietf.org" , "Sami Boutros \(sboutros\)" , pwe3 , "thomas.morin@orange.com" Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-raza-mpls-ldp-applicability-label-adv X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 18:15:51 -0000 WG, I read and reviewed the draft-raza-mpls-ldp-applicability-label-adv-02.txt. I have a few suggestions : - The current editor should search and replace 3036 with 5036. - In Section 4 I think we need to indicate that all future LDP applications MUST indicate the desired advertisement mode. ( instead of a RECOMMEND ) I am currently editing rfc4447bis, so I will include the suggested text in it. The document is certainly useful and needed, but I find it a bit verbose to just say one simple thing: "the A-bit only applied to LDP applications defined in RFC5036" I believe this document is ready to be adopted as a WG document , and progressed quickly , since it is very simple. Luca On 06/20/12 08:14, Ross Callon wrote: > You have been selected as an MPLS Review team reviewers for > draft-raza-mpls-ldp-applicability-label-adv. > Reviews should comment on whether the document is coherent, is it useful > (ie, is it likely to be actually useful in operational networks), and is > the document technically sound? We are interested in knowing whether the > document is ready to be considered for WG adoption (ie, it doesn’t have to > be perfect at this point, but should be a good start). > Reviews should be sent to the document authors, WG co-chairs and > secretary, > and CC’d to the MPLS WG email list. If necessary, comments may be sent > privately to only the WG chairs. > Are you able to review this draft by July 11, 2012 (this is giving you an > extra week due to the July 4th holiday)? > Thanks, Ross > (as MPLS WG chair) From loa@pi.nu Wed Jun 27 03:25:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F18C21F864B for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 03:25:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.444 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.444 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.145, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xXMxmQEuEGil for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 03:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF2121F8659 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 03:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E0252A8003; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:25:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FEADF9F.3070200@pi.nu> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:25:35 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org" References: <20120626171506.16927.15857.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20120626171506.16927.15857.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20120626171506.16927.15857.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [mpls] =?windows-1252?q?Fwd=3A_New_Liaison_Statement=2C_=22Revisi?= =?windows-1252?q?on_of_Recommendation_ITU-T_G=2E8131_=96_Linear_protectio?= =?windows-1252?q?n_switching_for_MPLS-TP_networks=22?= X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:25:39 -0000 Folks, we need a handful of volunteers to review this. Please volunteer and tell the wg chairs that u did! The dead-line is August 10, and the wg chairs will need a week to complie comments. You probably need to do the review before going to Vancouver, but as long as u have sent us the comment Aug 3rd, it is fine. /Loa as mpls wg co-chair -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Liaison Statement, "Revision of Recommendation ITU-T G.8131 – Linear protection switching for MPLS-TP networks" Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:15:06 -0700 From: Liaison Statement Management Tool To: Loa Andersson , George Swallow , Ross Callon CC: Stewart Bryant , Adrian Farrel , Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List , John Drake , Scott Mansfield , Yoshinori Koike , Ghani Abbas , Huub van Helvoort , Malcolm Betts , Hing-Kam Lam , Yoichi Maeda , Steve Trowbridge , OTA Hiroshi , ITU TSBSG15 , Eliot Lear , Bilel Jamoussi , Yoshinori Koike , Ghani Abbas , Huub van Helvoort , Malcolm Betts , Hing-Kam Lam Title: Revision of Recommendation ITU-T G.8131 – Linear protection switching for MPLS-TP networks Submission Date: 2012-06-24 URL of the IETF Web page: http://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1162/ Please reply by 2012-08-10 From: ITU-T SG 15 (Greg Jones ) To: Multiprotocol Label Switching (Loa Andersson , George Swallow , Ross Callon ) Cc: Stewart Bryant ,Adrian Farrel ,Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List ,John Drake ,Scott Mansfield ,Yoshinori Koike ,Ghani Abbas ,Huub van Helvoort ,Malcolm Betts ,Hing-Kam Lam ,Yoichi Maeda ,Steve Trowbridge ,OTA Hiroshi ,ITU TSBSG15 ,Eliot Lear ,Bilel Jamoussi Reponse Contact: Yoshinori Koike , Ghani Abbas , Huub van Helvoort , Malcolm Betts , Hing-Kam Lam Technical Contact: Purpose: For action Body: Attachments: Revision of Recommendation ITU-T G.8131 – Linear protection switching for MPLS-TP networks https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2012-06-24-itu-t-sg-15-mpls-revision-of-recommendation-itu-t-g8131-linear-protection-switching-for-mpls-tp-networks-attachment-1.doc -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From Rolf.Winter@neclab.eu Wed Jun 27 07:21:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A7C21F8798 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:21:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LeJdQBov9sug for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEBB21F8778 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 07:21:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928DB101673; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:26:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jq7WjugoyAtG; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:26:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from METHONE.office.hd (methone.office.hd [192.168.24.54]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771F0101669; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:25:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from PALLENE.office.hd ([169.254.1.191]) by METHONE.office.hd ([192.168.24.54]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:23:05 +0200 From: Rolf Winter To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org Thread-Index: AQHNU4EQs9hBlwlqpk2T4e6tBdRc2ZcOOSnw Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:23:05 +0000 Message-ID: <791AD3077F94194BB2BDD13565B6295D2513199B@PALLENE.office.hd> References: <4FE9855D.1030004@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FE9855D.1030004@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.7.0.204] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:21:39 -0000 Hi, I am not aware of any IPR regarding this document. Best, Rolf NEC Europe Limited | Registered Office: NEC House, 1 Victoria Road, London = W3 6BL | Registered in England 2832014=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Loa Andersson > Sent: Dienstag, 26. Juni 2012 11:48 > To: mpls@ietf.org > Cc: mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc > team; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org > Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t- > identifiers@tools.ietf.org >=20 > Working Group and authors; >=20 > the authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers-03 has asked that > the draft is working group last called. >=20 > Before the working group last call, we would like to check whether > there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. This poll ends > July 10th. >=20 > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t- > identifiers? >=20 > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >=20 > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list. The > documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been > received from each author and contributor. >=20 > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of > any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. >=20 > Thanks, Loa > (as MPLS WG co-chair) >=20 > -- >=20 >=20 > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From skraza@cisco.com Wed Jun 27 09:56:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C3E11E80D6 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:56:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31hUNDc2jNi0 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B156B21F87AB for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:56:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=skraza@cisco.com; l=2046; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1340816179; x=1342025779; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=7+0cMbqWVz0Uf/oZ+sk3RbPzB3MfveOdiF89uXEw4Xw=; b=iOUpcxkMIsmLlRpjf8CpPhWSPtFIfz4Z+VJ4BefRMrrKy2fPwGI1T8rF olM0IiGT00VVBYTxSniu7AYunaLoO4Ggsth4lsK0Dzc5QBd9Y/hNS8PtV uAcuhrqJXsz8gp5RNmUpOSn02LSH5w0siUJnhSqR4+WeUSZjInoqJzLxP Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EABQ060+tJXHA/2dsb2JhbABFtimBB4IfEgEnPxIBCDZCJQEBBAENBSKHaZkroESRQQOVMo4dgWaCXw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,483,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="96549191" Received: from rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com ([173.37.113.192]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Jun 2012 16:56:14 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x11.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x11.cisco.com [173.37.183.85]) by rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q5RGuEB6004556 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:56:14 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x03.cisco.com ([169.254.6.225]) by xhc-rcd-x11.cisco.com ([173.37.183.85]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:56:11 -0500 From: "Kamran Raza (skraza)" To: "verozheng@huawei.com" , "mach@huawei.com" , "manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com" Thread-Topic: review of draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth Thread-Index: Ac1Kyra9kYQ1JPUoSrCfinw5+Yy1eAJw2kYA Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:56:10 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4FDAE7DB.8010108@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.10.0.110310 x-originating-ip: [10.86.253.187] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19000.003 x-tm-as-result: No--35.419700-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <7FEA020CE6823E47932E9D8D3E154F02@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] review of draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:56:21 -0000 I've reviewed the draft draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth mainly from LDP point of view and here is the summary of my review: 1. Draft Proposal:=20 The draft describes a mechanism to secure the LDP Hello messages using some hashing algorithms. While this draft covers both the basic (link) and extended (tgt) hellos, its main beneficiary is tgt-hellos. 2. Protocol correctness: a- The document has lot more details on crypto area than LDP side of things. b- In some text, I found bit inconsistent/incorrect use of LDP adjacency and session terms - e.g. "Periodic Hello messages are sent to keep the LDP sessions alive." c- The new TLV is defined with U/F bits as 0/0. Since this is an extension to base spec, this TLV should be defined as U/F as 1/0, IMO. d- increasing sequence number in subsequent Hellos: some text needed on seq number wrapping. e- the procedures for hashing etc are well defined, but I believe that LDP procedures need more info + clarifications (e.g on mismatch scenarios, capable/incapable scenario) f- The description on Authentication key was not entirely clear to me. 3. Summary of review: a- is document coherent? Good details on crypto area, less on LDP side. Suggest to cut down some details in crypto, and add some more details in LDP sections b. is it useful?=20 Yes. c. is it likely to be actually useful in operational networks? I think so. d. is technically sound ? Need minor work/clarification. e. is ready to be considered for WG adoption ? I believe that we may need one more revision of the doc to address above comments, and then it should be ready for WG adoption call. [ I can sync up with authors on my comments to help them understand Things which were not clear to me and/or needed some re-work] Rgds, --Kamran On 12-06-15 3:44 AM, "Loa Andersson" wrote: >Kamran, > >can you review draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth as part of the >process to adopt the document as a working group document. > >/Loa From gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com Wed Jun 27 12:21:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91D321F8746 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:21:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UXuOHcRZ3J+g for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACD521F8722 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id q5RJKuq1027535; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:20:59 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0715.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.50]) by eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) with mapi; Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:20:53 -0400 From: Gregory Mirsky To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org" Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:20:52 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls] Fwd: New Liaison Statement, "Revision of Recommendation ITU-T G.8131 - Linear protection switching for MPLS-TP networks" Thread-Index: Ac1UTziRXYsPXdGKShGrFZMX5dtXtAASqDZA Message-ID: References: <20120626171506.16927.15857.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <4FEADF9F.3070200@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FEADF9F.3070200@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [mpls] Fwd: New Liaison Statement, "Revision of Recommendation ITU-T G.8131 - Linear protection switching for MPLS-TP networks" X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 19:21:01 -0000 =20 I'll take it on. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa= Andersson Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 3:26 AM To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org Subject: [mpls] Fwd: New Liaison Statement, "Revision of Recommendation ITU= -T G.8131 - Linear protection switching for MPLS-TP networks" Folks, we need a handful of volunteers to review this. Please volunteer and tell t= he wg chairs that u did! The dead-line is August 10, and the wg chairs will= need a week to complie comments. You probably need to do the review before going to Vancouver, but as long a= s u have sent us the comment Aug 3rd, it is fine. /Loa as mpls wg co-chair -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Liaison Statement, "Revision of Recommendation ITU-T G.8131 - = Linear protection switching for MPLS-TP networks" Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 10:15:06 -0700 From: Liaison Statement Management Tool To: Loa Andersson , George Swallow , Ross Cal= lon CC: Stewart Bryant , Adrian Farrel , Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List , John Drak= e , Scott Mansfield , Yos= hinori Koike , Ghani Abbas , Huub van Helvoort , Malcolm Betts = , Hing-Kam Lam , Yoic= hi Maeda , Steve Trowbridge , OTA Hiroshi , ITU TSBSG15 , Eliot Lear , Bilel Jamoussi , Yoshinori Koike , Ghani Abbas , Huub van Helvoort , Malcolm = Betts , Hing-Kam Lam Title: Revision of Recommendation ITU-T G.8131 - Linear protection switchin= g for MPLS-TP networks Submission Date: 2012-06-24 URL of the IETF Web page= : http://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1162/ Please reply by 2012-08-10 From: ITU-T SG 15 (Greg Jones ) To: Multiprotocol Label Switching (Loa Andersson , George Swallo= w , Ross Callon ) Cc: Stewart Bryant ,Adrian Farrel = ,Multiprotocol Label Switching Discussion List ,John Drake <= jdrake@juniper.net>,Scott Mansfield ,Yoshinor= i Koike ,Ghani Abbas ,Huub van Helvoort ,Malcolm Betts ,Hing-Kam Lam ,Yoichi Maeda <= yoichi.maeda@ttc.or.jp>,Steve Trowbridge ,OTA Hiroshi ,ITU TSBSG15 ,Eliot L= ear ,Bilel Jamoussi Reponse Conta= ct: Yoshinori Koike , Ghani Abbas , Huub van Helvoort , Malcolm= Betts , Hing-Kam Lam Technical Contact: Purpose: For action Body: Attachments: Revision of Recommendation ITU-T G.8131 - Linear protection switching = for MPLS-TP networks =20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/liaison-2012-06-24-itu-t-sg-= 15-mpls-revision-of-recommendation-itu-t-g8131-linear-protection-switching-= for-mpls-tp-networks-attachment-1.doc --=20 Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From michelg@upperside.fr Thu Jun 28 07:19:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD1421F8596 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 07:19:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id py7Af9rYYd2g for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 07:19:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp03.msg.oleane.net (smtp03.msg.oleane.net [62.161.4.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC3021F8595 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 07:19:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MichelGosseDel ([195.6.217.229]) (authenticated) by smtp03.msg.oleane.net (MSA) with ESMTP id q5SEJpQX030822 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:19:51 +0200 X-Oleane-Rep: REPA From: "Michel Gosse" To: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:19:51 +0200 Message-ID: <004401cd5539$1503f490$3f0bddb0$@upperside.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01CD5549.D88D87E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac1VON+qvzq+Hn0fSi2Nhpl4Z9QDCQ== Content-Language: fr X-PMX-Spam: Probability=10% X-PFSI-Info: PMX 5.5.9.395186, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2012.6.28.140315 (no antivirus check) X-Orange-Auth: bWcyNjMtM0B1cHBlc2lkZS5mci5mdG8= Subject: [mpls] MPLS World Congress: CFP dead line extension X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:19:56 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CD5549.D88D87E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The 15th edition of the MPLS & Ethernet World Congress will take place in Paris from 19 to 22 March, 2013. The 2013 edition will place particular emphasis on Cloud, SDN and MPLS End-to-end issues. The Call for Proposals dead line has been extended to July 15th. More info: http://www.uppersideconferences.com/mpls2013/mpls2013cfp.html ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CD5549.D88D87E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The 15th = edition of the MPLS & = Ethernet World Congress will = take place in Paris from 19 = to 22 March, 2013. =

 

The 2013 = edition will place particular emphasis on Cloud, SDN and MPLS End-to-end = issues.

 

The Call for = Proposals dead line has been = extended to July 15th.

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0045_01CD5549.D88D87E0-- From loa@pi.nu Thu Jun 28 13:01:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E7421F8554 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:01:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H3uHdKz5yyf8 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6B521F8551 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.64] (81-236-221-144-no93.tbcn.telia.com [81.236.221.144]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E09D2A8003; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:01:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FECB7F8.5020507@pi.nu> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:00:56 +0200 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , Martin Vigoureux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:01:21 -0000 Working Group and authors; the authors of draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth is ready to be adopted as a working group draft, modulo an quick update based on comments from the MPLS-RT review. The poll will be started as soon as we have version -05 of the document. Hovwever this does not need to stop us from starting the IPR poll on this document to check whether there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. This poll ends July 13th. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Loa (as MPLS WG co-chair) -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From huub.van.helvoort@huawei.com Thu Jun 28 13:24:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6850321F8503 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:24:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DP4PeYIQn2kR for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfwrgout.huawei.com (dfwrgout.huawei.com [206.16.17.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509FC21F8501 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.9.243 (EHLO dfweml202-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.9.243]) by dfwrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.2.3-GA FastPath) with ESMTP id AHH21269; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:24:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from DFWEML404-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.203) by dfweml202-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.9.108) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:22:08 -0700 Received: from LHREML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) by dfweml404-hub.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.203) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:22:04 -0700 Received: from LHREML508-MBX.china.huawei.com ([10.201.4.175]) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:21:59 +0100 From: Huub helvoort To: Loa Andersson , "mpls@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org Thread-Index: AQHNU4DrrLwRHIJweESXNZxlFeYwFJcQMBFa Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:21:59 +0000 Message-ID: <73E555AA235F3846B8051DB38C8776271CF7D7AF@lhreml508-mbx> References: <4FE9855D.1030004@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <4FE9855D.1030004@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-GB X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.200.216.106] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:24:09 -0000 Hello, I am not aware of any IPR related to this document. Regards, Huub. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else... ________________________________________ From: Loa Andersson [loa@pi.nu] Sent: 26 June 2012 11:48 To: mpls@ietf.org Cc: MPLS-TP ad hoc team; mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; mpls-ads@tools.ietf.or= g; draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org; Martin Vigoureux Subject: IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org Working Group and authors; the authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers-03 has asked that the draft is working group last called. Before the working group last call, we would like to check whether there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. This poll ends July 10th. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Loa (as MPLS WG co-chair) -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13= From manavbhatia@gmail.com Thu Jun 28 14:25:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDE511E80A3 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.932 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.932 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SNsFdVxxjvko for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f42.google.com (mail-yw0-f42.google.com [209.85.213.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4825711E8087 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by yhfq11 with SMTP id q11so2771015yhf.15 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:25:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=q93IuXdUS2DmKYt+GEcVCEFsx4OVN/MREVgVXLzXemw=; b=CLaE6OsFOOG7vqfuENXBvAugWltwa5IHi6Ra6D47ZOC6FIb/K0x10RWfw3QzJ/oI9r OYHFc/A2Lu9agDwzkDUa9xvgPHaXZAaIfdTNO0aMUDjpQeDhzYHvTxfjrD0tzcaDIdrQ pKqsAgwZF9rcV/tRHBlGMzXMov4U9B6uTF4jELxmLLv8p+cuKJ/4GfC5mRmB1Cx/Uhn6 uVoJQJ377wxadHMxF1CMgK1CeVEuvfFgjw9kUfMv5uQNkYEi8BWxkSCANbyGAGeKOS3s vLrn6vNQTRRO7e9GbmlaD1+tJI0pKKRTs6AJkppGSomRD9RxpFvwkKL2/IPQw9ojh/Hc mMww== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.165.13 with SMTP id s13mr1788185ano.1.1340918734187; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.108.140 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:25:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FECB7F8.5020507@pi.nu> References: <4FECB7F8.5020507@pi.nu> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 02:55:34 +0530 Message-ID: From: Manav Bhatia To: Loa Andersson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bac6d2eea004c38ef8b6 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:25:41 -0000 --001636c5bac6d2eea004c38ef8b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Speaking as a co-author of draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-**crypto-auth: I am not aware of an IPR that applies to this draft. Cheers, Manav On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Loa Andersson wrote: > Working Group and authors; > > the authors of draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-**crypto-auth is ready to > be adopted as a working group draft, modulo an quick update based > on comments from the MPLS-RT review. The poll will be started as > soon as we have version -05 of the document. > > Hovwever this does not need to stop us from starting the IPR poll > on this document to check whether there is IPR on the document that > needs to be disclosed. This poll ends July 13th. > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-**crypto-auth? > > If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules > (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to > this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant > IPR. The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list. The > documents will not advance to the next stage until a response > has been received from each author and contributor. > > If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or > contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any > IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. > > Thanks, Loa > (as MPLS WG co-chair) > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com > Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu > Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 > +46 767 72 92 13 > > ______________________________**_________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/mpls > --001636c5bac6d2eea004c38ef8b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Speaking as a co-author of=A0draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth:=

I am not aware of an IPR that applies to this draft.
Cheers, Manav

On Fri, Ju= n 29, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote:
Working Group and authors;

the authors of draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth is ready to be adopted as a working group draft, modulo an quick update based
on comments from the MPLS-RT review. The poll will be started as
soon as we have version -05 of the document.

Hovwever this does not need to stop us from starting the IPR poll
on this document to check whether there is IPR on the document that
needs to be disclosed. This poll ends July 13th.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to
draft-zheng-mpls-ldp-hello-crypto-auth?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list. The documen= ts will not advance to the next stage until a response
has been received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thanks, Loa
(as MPLS WG co-chair)

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--001636c5bac6d2eea004c38ef8b6-- From ice@cisco.com Thu Jun 28 22:50:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7AB11E80A3 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:50:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.524 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.524 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kFMuTRSnhWeW for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C092E11E8085 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:50:49 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from stew-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5T5omHE026572 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:50:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ams-iwijnand-8719.cisco.com (ams-iwijnand-8719.cisco.com [10.55.191.154]) by stew-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q5T5ojrx002416; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:50:45 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: IJsbrand Wijnands In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:50:45 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Cc: Ross Callon Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 05:50:50 -0000 Hi WG, I just want to point out that = 'draft-wijnands-mpls-mldp-node-protection-01' has a Normative reference = to 'draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp'. If the WG is interested to = driving mLDP node protection forwarded, it helps to get this draft = accepted as WG document. Thx, Ice. > Working Group, >=20 > This is to start a poll to see if there is support to adopt >=20 > draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp >=20 > as an mpls working group draft. >=20 > Pleased send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list = (mpls@ietf.org). >=20 > Due to the upcoming July 4th holiday in the US the poll will be = extended for an additional week (beyond the normal two week poll). This = poll ends at the end of the day July 11, 2012 >=20 > Ross > for the mpls wg chairs >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls From martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com Fri Jun 29 06:05:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50A421F8747 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:05:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OXATm7M8Wtdm for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr (smail3.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C800221F8715 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 06:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.63]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id q5TD30nA012299 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:05:41 +0200 Received: from [172.27.205.189] (135.120.57.7) by FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (135.120.45.63) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:05:39 +0200 Message-ID: <4FEDA81E.2030304@alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:05:34 +0200 From: Martin Vigoureux Organization: Alcatel-Lucent User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "MPLS @ IETF" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.83 Cc: "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Subject: [mpls] Slots requests for IETF 84 - Vancouver X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 13:05:45 -0000 All, it is time we start building the agenda for Vancouver. The current IETF agenda, still subject to change, is available at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/84/agenda.txt The MPLS WG sessions are scheduled: Monday, Morning Session I 0900-1130 and Friday, Morning Session I 0900-1100 Please send *me* (replying to this e-mail and copying the co-chairs) your request for a presentation slot, indicating: draft name, speaker and desired duration (presentation + Q&As). Timeslots longer than 10 minutes are only given on an exceptional basis. If you require more than 10 minutes please explain your reason and how you plan to use the time. Requests with missing information will not be considered. Please send the requests before July 16th. Thank you. Martin From lizho.jin@gmail.com Fri Jun 29 07:31:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A71E221F8741 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:31:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m7zP-+0BQet1 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gh0-f172.google.com (mail-gh0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5579221F8755 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ghbg16 with SMTP id g16so3113441ghb.31 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:31:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KkSOqA5jXrQxIQY7bXatSll0TwpzhpFolHCx/amdH1o=; b=jDLScIwTcfbJkebseWZZGBxyuZN38kfnc0xkF89dC9WkFhoAY1FuHCxjPqQ2eFrAvR vA4M+Re8U/HP08glx/iA1SGtEWgdp6cZD1vxIRKPnrFBlUOTgmrK2W65fvvwaY+WL9wD ez57gLVYHdu9LYDoGQbBBXt2ZJweBMDlEGfjEJvoH2Hd0fboLTVk0K6YVCnNGqnusGGJ pqM8c/TRuu3rLFYD5EvD8xP3xWf5t/i3KN+e3P4itBMfX9Qwhj6QNl0VQ0NcmCa3HEB0 FPwhv9Dm1AE9MkVL/UyDwEDf/UuL/R/52Jhfqv2h9xohO+gP2sPDBAKigBpeb3wap3f3 j7cw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.197.194 with SMTP id iw2mr1294694igc.31.1340980292555; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.106.198 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:31:32 +0800 Message-ID: From: Lizhong Jin To: mpls@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93404cdfd157f04c39d4d07 Cc: rcallon@juniper.net Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:31:35 -0000 --14dae93404cdfd157f04c39d4d07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, support. Lizhong > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 10:06:43 -0400 > From: Ross Callon > To: "'mpls@ietf.org'" > Subject: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for > draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Working Group, > > This is to start a poll to see if there is support to adopt > > draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp > > as an mpls working group draft. > > Pleased send your comments to the mpls working group mailing list ( > mpls@ietf.org). > > Due to the upcoming July 4th holiday in the US the poll will be extended > for an additional week (beyond the normal two week poll). 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Yes, support.
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Working Group,

This is to start a poll to see if there is suppor= t to adopt

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as an mpls = working group draft.

Pleased send your comments to the mpls working = group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org<m= ailto:mpls@ietf.org>).

Due to the upcoming July 4th holiday in the US the poll will be extende= d for an additional week (beyond the normal two week poll). This poll ends = at the end of the day July 11, 2012

Ross
for the mpls wg chairs

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--14dae93404cdfd157f04c39d4d07-- From malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn Fri Jun 29 07:44:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC58C21F8714 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:44:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.838 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.838 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_DOUBLE_IP_LOOSE=0.76, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3GejsCmra6YQ for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx5.zte.com.cn (mx6.zte.com.cn [95.130.199.165]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF4F21F86E3 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 07:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.30.17.100] by mx5.zte.com.cn with surfront esmtp id 28620806486374; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:39:10 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.30.3.20] by [192.168.168.16] with StormMail ESMTP id 21663.6004712494; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:43:55 +0800 (CST) Received: from notes_smtp.zte.com.cn ([10.30.1.239]) by mse01.zte.com.cn with ESMTP id q5TEi0Kd019198; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 22:44:00 +0800 (GMT-8) (envelope-from Malcolm.BETTS@zte.com.cn) In-Reply-To: <4FE9855D.1030004@pi.nu> References: <4FE9855D.1030004@pi.nu> To: Loa Andersson MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: D4591DF4:29DF52A6-85257A2C:0050DB2D; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.5.1 September 28, 2009 Message-ID: From: Malcolm.BETTS@zte.com.cn Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 10:43:49 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes_smtp/zte_ltd(Release 8.5.1FP4|July 25, 2010) at 2012-06-29 22:44:02, Serialize complete at 2012-06-29 22:44:02 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0050EEB685257A2C_=" X-MAIL: mse01.zte.com.cn q5TEi0Kd019198 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" , MPLS-TP ad hoc team , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 14:44:26 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0050EEB685257A2C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft. Regards, Malcolm Loa Andersson 26/06/2012 05:48 AM To "mpls@ietf.org" cc MPLS-TP ad hoc team , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "mpls-ads@tools.ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org" , Martin Vigoureux Subject IPR poll on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers@tools.ietf.org Working Group and authors; the authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers-03 has asked that the draft is working group last called. Before the working group last call, we would like to check whether there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. This poll ends July 10th. Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers? If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list. The documents will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and contributor. If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules. Thanks, Loa (as MPLS WG co-chair) -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 --=_alternative 0050EEB685257A2C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" I am not aware of any IPR related to this draft.

Regards,

Malcolm



Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>

26/06/2012 05:48 AM

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cc
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Subject
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Working Group and authors;

the authors of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers-03 has
asked that the draft is working group last called.

Before the working group last call, we would like to check whether
there is IPR on the document that needs to be disclosed. This poll ends
July 10th.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to
draft-ietf-mpls-tp-itu-t-identifiers?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
IPR. The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list. The
documents will not advance to the next stage until a response
has been received from each author and contributor.

If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thanks, Loa
(as MPLS WG co-chair)

--


Loa Andersson                         email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com
Sr Strategy and Standards Manager            loa@pi.nu
Ericsson Inc                          phone: +46 10 717 52 13
                                             +46 767 72 92 13
--=_alternative 0050EEB685257A2C_=-- From jeff.tantsura@ericsson.com Fri Jun 29 23:31:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF96221F86DC for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 23:31:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e-SGts8nUSCv for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 23:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4569921F863E for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2012 23:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id q5U6VKgH002847; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 01:31:21 -0500 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.215]) by eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) with mapi; Sat, 30 Jun 2012 02:31:14 -0400 From: Jeff Tantsura To: Ross Callon Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 02:31:12 -0400 Thread-Topic: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp Thread-Index: Ac1WifICxdZaB5FoQkuc8KCIviB/Fw== Message-ID: <46A60CE1-A83E-4ACF-B78B-D0D7E2E4A7C0@ericsson.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll for WG adoption for draft-napierala-mpls-targeted-mldp X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 06:31:22 -0000 WWVzL3N1cHBvcnQNCg0KUmVnYXJkcywNCkplZmYNCg0KT24gSnVuIDIwLCAyMDEyLCBhdCAxNzow OCwgIlJvc3MgQ2FsbG9uIiA8cmNhbGxvbkBqdW5pcGVyLm5ldDxtYWlsdG86cmNhbGxvbkBqdW5p cGVyLm5ldD4+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQpXb3JraW5nIEdyb3VwLA0KDQpUaGlzIGlzIHRvIHN0YXJ0IGEg cG9sbCB0byBzZWUgaWYgdGhlcmUgaXMgc3VwcG9ydCB0byBhZG9wdA0KDQogICBkcmFmdC1uYXBp ZXJhbGEtbXBscy10YXJnZXRlZC1tbGRwDQoNCmFzIGFuIG1wbHMgd29ya2luZyBncm91cCBkcmFm dC4NCg0KUGxlYXNlZCBzZW5kIHlvdXIgY29tbWVudHMgdG8gdGhlIG1wbHMgd29ya2luZyBncm91 cCBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QgKG1wbHNAaWV0Zi5vcmc8bWFpbHRvOm1wbHNAaWV0Zi5vcmc+KS4NCg0K RHVlIHRvIHRoZSB1cGNvbWluZyBKdWx5IDR0aCBob2xpZGF5IGluIHRoZSBVUyB0aGUgcG9sbCB3 aWxsIGJlIGV4dGVuZGVkIGZvciBhbiBhZGRpdGlvbmFsIHdlZWsgKGJleW9uZCB0aGUgbm9ybWFs IHR3byB3ZWVrIHBvbGwpLiBUaGlzIHBvbGwgZW5kcyBhdCB0aGUgZW5kIG9mIHRoZSBkYXkgSnVs eSAxMSwgMjAxMg0KDQpSb3NzDQpmb3IgdGhlIG1wbHMgd2cgY2hhaXJzDQoNCg0KX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCm1wbHMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0 DQptcGxzQGlldGYub3JnPG1haWx0bzptcGxzQGlldGYub3JnPg0KaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaWV0Zi5v cmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9tcGxzDQo=