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Hi,

Hannes and me submitted a revision of the Bootstrapping TESLA Draft. We updated some text regarding the synchronization and added the IANA section. Feel free to send comments.

Regards
      Steffen

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet- Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Multicast Security Working Group of the IETF.

      Title       : Bootstrapping TESLA
      Author(s)   : S. Fries, H. Tschofenig
      Filename    : draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt
      Pages       : 13
      Date        : 2005-1-18
      
With the Timed Efficient Stream Loss-tolerant Authentication protocol (TESLA) a protocol for providing source authentication in multicast scenarios was introduced.  A mapping for TESLA to the Secure Real-time Transport Protocol (SRTP) has been published which assumes that some TESLA parameters are made available by out-of-band mechanisms.  This document describes payloads for bootstrapping these parameters with the help of the Multimedia Internet KEYing (MIKEY) protocol.

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    Steffen Fries,     Siemens AG, CT IC 3      
    Otto-Hahn-Ring 6,  D-81730 Munich, Germany
    Phone:  (+49) 89 / 636-53403,   
    Fax  :  (+49) 89 / 636-48000
    Email:  Steffen.Fries@siemens.com
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--===============0439851582== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec --===============0439851582==-- From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Wed Feb 2 02:49:47 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA11450 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D3D8D155; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:49:48 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5005D8D13F for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 75351 invoked by uid 3269); 2 Feb 2005 07:49:47 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 75347 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2005 07:49:46 -0000 Received: from goliath.siemens.de (192.35.17.28) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2005 07:49:46 -0000 Received: from mail3.siemens.de (mail3.siemens.de [139.25.208.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j127njJH017084; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:49:45 +0100 Received: from MCHN070C (mhpaba5c.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.204.46]) by mail3.siemens.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j127nifs007163; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:49:44 +0100 From: "Steffen Fries" Organization: Siemens AG To: msec@securemulticast.org, mmusic@ietf.org Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:49:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <42009421.27826.18217F57@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <42009389.29093.181F2DF2@localhost> References: <41FE4CAC.8060406@nortelnetworks.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Cc: hannes Tschofenig Subject: [MSEC] Resent: draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: steffen.fries@siemens.com List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Hi, > > Hannes and me submitted a revision of the Bootstrapping TESLA Draft. > We updated some text regarding the synchronization and added the IANA > section. Feel free to send comments. > > Regards > Steffen > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet- Drafts > directories. This draft is a work item of the Multicast Security > Working Group of the IETF. > > Title: Bootstrapping TESLA > Author(s): S. Fries, H. Tschofenig > Filename: draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt > Pages: 13 > Date: 2005-1-18 > > With the Timed Efficient Stream Loss-tolerant Authentication protocol > (TESLA) a protocol for providing source authentication in multicast > scenarios was introduced. A mapping for TESLA to the Secure Real-time > Transport Protocol (SRTP) has been published which assumes that some > TESLA parameters are made available by out-of-band mechanisms. This > document describes payloads for bootstrapping these parameters with > the help of the Multimedia Internet KEYing (MIKEY) protocol. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msec- bootstrapping- > tesla-00.txt > > To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > i- d-announce-request at ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the > body of the message. You can also visit > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D- announce to change your > subscription settings. > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After > logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft- ietf-msec- > bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt". > > A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in > http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > > Send a message to: > mailserv at ietf.org. > In the body type: > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping- tesla- > 00.txt". > > NOTE:The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use > this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before > the "FILE"command. To decode the response(s), you will > need "munpack" or MIME-compliant mail reader. Different > MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been > splitup into multiple messages), so check your local > documentation onhow to manipulate these messages. > > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. > > tesla-00.txt> > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce at ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Steffen Fries, Siemens AG, CT IC 3 > Otto-Hahn-Ring 6, D-81730 Munich, Germany > Phone: (+49) 89 / 636-53403, > Fax : (+49) 89 / 636-48000 > Email: Steffen.Fries@siemens.com > ----------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Wed Feb 2 05:17:04 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA25737 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 05:16:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7B98CA38; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 05:16:50 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C206F8C064 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 05:16:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8438 invoked by uid 3269); 2 Feb 2005 10:16:48 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 8420 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2005 10:16:48 -0000 Received: from firewall.vegastream.com (HELO vegastream.com) (217.205.209.100) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2005 10:16:48 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by vegastream.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:16:27 +0000 thread-index: AcUI/QekpJ5DiSFRScu1LH8xifIKYg== Received: from megatron.ietf.org ([132.151.6.71]) by vegastream.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 2 Feb 2005 07:58:47 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1CwFGQ-0001nx-A4; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 02:49:26 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1CwFEO-0001MT-D6 for mmusic@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 02:47:24 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA11242 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.siemens.de ([192.35.17.28]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CwFWh-0006xA-R6 for mmusic@ietf.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 03:06:16 -0500 Received: from mail3.siemens.de (mail3.siemens.de [139.25.208.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j127lDJH015127; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:47:13 +0100 Received: from MCHN070C (mhpaba5c.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.204.46]) by mail3.siemens.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j127lCfs004781; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:47:13 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Steffen Fries" Organization: Siemens AG To: , Message-ID: <011101c50910$40ee8f70$010113ac@vegastream> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:16:26 -0000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <41FE4CAC.8060406@nortelnetworks.com> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-Description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 825e642946eda55cd9bc654a36dab8c2 Subject: [MMUSIC] Re: [MSEC] [Fwd: I-DACTION:draft-ignjatic-msec-mikey-rsa-r-00.txt] X-BeenThere: mmusic@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0623562462==" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2005 07:58:47.0663 (UTC) FILETIME=[065FFFF0:01C508FD] Cc: hannes Tschofenig X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org Reply-To: steffen.fries@siemens.com List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0623562462== Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Description: Mail message body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,

Hannes and me submitted a revision of the Bootstrapping TESLA Draft. We updated some text regarding the synchronization and added the IANA section. Feel free to send comments.

Regards
      Steffen

----------------------------------------------------------------

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet- Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Multicast Security Working Group of the IETF.

      Title       : Bootstrapping TESLA
      Author(s)   : S. Fries, H. Tschofenig
      Filename    : draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt
      Pages       : 13
      Date        : 2005-1-18
      
With the Timed Efficient Stream Loss-tolerant Authentication protocol (TESLA) a protocol for providing source authentication in multicast scenarios was introduced.  A mapping for TESLA to the Secure Real-time Transport Protocol (SRTP) has been published which assumes that some TESLA parameters are made available by out-of-band mechanisms.  This document describes payloads for bootstrapping these parameters with the help of the Multimedia Internet KEYing (MIKEY) protocol.

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      MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility.  To use
      this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before
      the "FILE"  command.  To decode the response(s), you will
      need "munpack" or MIME-compliant mail reader.  Different
      MIME-compliant mail readers
      exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with
      "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been
      split up into multiple messages), so check your local
      documentation on  how to manipulate these messages.
            
            
Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader
implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft.

<ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msec- bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt>

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    Steffen Fries,     Siemens AG, CT IC 3      
    Otto-Hahn-Ring 6,  D-81730 Munich, Germany
    Phone:  (+49) 89 / 636-53403,   
    Fax  :  (+49) 89 / 636-48000
    Email:  Steffen.Fries@siemens.com
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--===============0623562462== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _______________________________________________ mmusic mailing list mmusic@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic --===============0623562462== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec --===============0623562462==-- From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Wed Feb 2 07:00:01 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA25739 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 05:16:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7475C8CBB2; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 05:16:54 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 643638CBAB for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 05:16:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 8449 invoked by uid 3269); 2 Feb 2005 10:16:53 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 8446 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2005 10:16:53 -0000 Received: from firewall.vegastream.com (HELO vegastream.com) (217.205.209.100) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2005 10:16:53 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by vegastream.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:16:27 +0000 thread-index: AcUI/bsP/9PzD7f0STirT92fvbfM/w== Received: from megatron.ietf.org ([132.151.6.71]) by vegastream.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:03:50 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1CwFSa-0004jO-WF; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 03:02:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1CwFGk-0001u3-Nv for mmusic@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 02:49:46 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA11447 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:49:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.siemens.de ([192.35.17.28]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CwFZ4-00071u-F9 for mmusic@ietf.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 03:08:42 -0500 Received: from mail3.siemens.de (mail3.siemens.de [139.25.208.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j127njJH017084; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:49:45 +0100 Received: from MCHN070C (mhpaba5c.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.204.46]) by mail3.siemens.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j127nifs007163; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:49:44 +0100 From: "Steffen Fries" Organization: Siemens AG To: , Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:16:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <011c01c50910$40f5bb60$010113ac@vegastream> Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Priority: normal In-Reply-To: <42009389.29093.181F2DF2@localhost> References: <41FE4CAC.8060406@nortelnetworks.com> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 386e0819b1192672467565a524848168 X-BeenThere: mmusic@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2005 08:03:50.0569 (UTC) FILETIME=[BAEBC990:01C508FD] Cc: hannes Tschofenig Subject: [MSEC] [MMUSIC] Resent: draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org Reply-To: steffen.fries@siemens.com.cnri.reston.va.us List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hi, > > Hannes and me submitted a revision of the Bootstrapping TESLA Draft. > We updated some text regarding the synchronization and added the IANA > section. Feel free to send comments. > > Regards > Steffen > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet- Drafts > directories. This draft is a work item of the Multicast Security > Working Group of the IETF. > > Title: Bootstrapping TESLA > Author(s): S. Fries, H. Tschofenig > Filename: draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt > Pages: 13 > Date: 2005-1-18 > > With the Timed Efficient Stream Loss-tolerant Authentication protocol > (TESLA) a protocol for providing source authentication in multicast > scenarios was introduced. A mapping for TESLA to the Secure Real-time > Transport Protocol (SRTP) has been published which assumes that some > TESLA parameters are made available by out-of-band mechanisms. This > document describes payloads for bootstrapping these parameters with > the help of the Multimedia Internet KEYing (MIKEY) protocol. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msec- bootstrapping- > tesla-00.txt > > To remove yourself from the I-D Announcement list, send a message to > i- d-announce-request at ietf.org with the word unsubscribe in the > body of the message. You can also visit > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/I-D- announce to change your > subscription settings. > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the > username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After > logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft- ietf-msec- > bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt". > > A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in > http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > > Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > > Send a message to: > mailserv at ietf.org. > In the body type: > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping- tesla- > 00.txt". > > NOTE:The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use > this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before > the "FILE"command. To decode the response(s), you will > need "munpack" or MIME-compliant mail reader. Different > MIME-compliant mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been > splitup into multiple messages), so check your local > documentation onhow to manipulate these messages. > > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. > > tesla-00.txt> > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce at ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Steffen Fries, Siemens AG, CT IC 3 > Otto-Hahn-Ring 6, D-81730 Munich, Germany > Phone: (+49) 89 / 636-53403, > Fax : (+49) 89 / 636-48000 > Email: Steffen.Fries@siemens.com > ----------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ mmusic mailing list mmusic@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Wed Feb 9 15:02:40 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id PAA07236 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:02:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BF88C0FB; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:01:49 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E6DEF8C012 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2005 15:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 81310 invoked by uid 3269); 9 Feb 2005 20:01:47 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 81307 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2005 20:01:47 -0000 Received: from smtp109.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (66.163.170.7) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2005 20:01:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mou1thardjon-l1.yahoo.com) (thardjono@66.94.16.65 with login) by smtp109.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2005 20:01:42 -0000 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050209114732.027d31c0@pop.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:01:17 -0800 To: msec@securemulticast.org From: Thomas Hardjono Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: canetti@watson.ibm.com Subject: [MSEC] Call for Agenda items for MSEC at IETF62 (Minneapolis) X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Folks, Please email Ran/myself with items for the agenda. So far we have the following agenda items: - WG Status review (Ran/Thomas) - Additional mode of key distribution for MIKEY (D. Ignjatic/L. Dondeti) Regards. Ran/thomas ---------- _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Tue Feb 15 14:51:07 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA01123 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3886C8CF36; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:51:07 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 33EA08CDFE for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:51:06 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 1090 invoked by uid 3269); 15 Feb 2005 19:50:11 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 1087 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2005 19:50:11 -0000 Received: from igw2.watson.ibm.com (129.34.20.6) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2005 19:50:11 -0000 Received: from sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com [129.34.20.40]) by igw2.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j1FJoAa282972 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:50:10 -0500 Received: from sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_2) with ESMTP id j1FJoAf53798 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:50:10 -0500 Received: from ornavella.watson.ibm.com (ornavella.watson.ibm.com [9.2.16.80]) by sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_1) with ESMTP id j1FJo9s53796 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:50:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (canetti@localhost) by ornavella.watson.ibm.com (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0/03-06-2002) with ESMTP id j1FJo8k28730 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:50:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:50:08 -0500 (EST) From: canetti To: msec@securemulticast.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [MSEC] Last call for draft-ietf-msec-newtype-keyid-01.txt X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Folks, This is a last call for draft-ietf-msec-newtype-keyid-01.txt. Please give it another reading and post your comments by March 1. Thanks, Thomas and Ran _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Tue Feb 15 23:37:08 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA15852 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:37:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24498C542; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:37:09 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 82F5A8C509 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:37:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 2751 invoked by uid 3269); 16 Feb 2005 04:37:09 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 2748 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2005 04:37:09 -0000 Received: from igw2.watson.ibm.com (129.34.20.6) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2005 04:37:09 -0000 Received: from sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com [129.34.20.40]) by igw2.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j1G4b8a115366 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:37:08 -0500 Received: from sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_2) with ESMTP id j1G4b8f36062 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:37:08 -0500 Received: from ornavella.watson.ibm.com (ornavella.watson.ibm.com [9.2.16.80]) by sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_1) with ESMTP id j1G4b7s62410 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:37:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (canetti@localhost) by ornavella.watson.ibm.com (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0/03-06-2002) with ESMTP id j1G4b6H32796 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:37:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:37:06 -0500 (EST) From: canetti To: msec@securemulticast.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [MSEC] last call for draft-ietf-msec-srtp-tesla-03.txt X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Folks, This is a last call on draft-ietf-msec-srtp-tesla-03.txt. Please post your comments before March 1. Note: following the discussion on the list few months ago, the draft now states that a recipient SHOULD drop a packet if it does not manage to authenticate it because it arrived too late. Thomas and Ran _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Wed Feb 16 04:53:00 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA19254 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35C58C4CA; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:53:01 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CA10F8C4C3 for ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 87517 invoked by uid 3269); 16 Feb 2005 09:53:00 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 87507 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2005 09:53:00 -0000 Received: from thoth.sbs.de (192.35.17.2) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2005 09:53:00 -0000 Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by thoth.sbs.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j1G9qwFF005680; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:52:58 +0100 Received: from moody.mchh.siemens.de (moody.mchh.siemens.de [139.21.205.85]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j1G9qvHY018796; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:52:57 +0100 Received: from mchh246e.mchh.siemens.de (mchh246e.mchh.siemens.de [139.21.200.56]) by moody.mchh.siemens.de (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j1G9quoJ026213; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:52:56 +0100 Received: by mchh246e.mchh.siemens.de with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:52:54 +0100 Message-ID: <8C878B55C96F924389908D4A7384842A03A02E7A@mchh2c7e.mchh.siemens.de> From: Euchner Martin To: "'housley@vigilsec.com'" , "'thardjono@verisign.com'" , Euchner Martin Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:52:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain Cc: msec@securemulticast.org Subject: [MSEC] RE: Last Call: 'HMAC-authenticated Diffie-Hellman for MIKEY' to P roposed Standard X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org The last call period of draft-ietf-msec-mikey-dhhmac-09.txt has ended yesterday. I have not received or seen any comments against the draft. With kind regards Martin Euchner. -----Original Message----- From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG Sent: Dienstag, 1. Februar 2005 20:19 To: IETF-Announce Cc: msec@securemulticast.org Subject: Last Call: 'HMAC-authenticated Diffie-Hellman for MIKEY' to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from the Multicast Security WG to consider the following document: - 'HMAC-authenticated Diffie-Hellman for MIKEY' as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2005-02-15. The file can be obtained via http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msec-mikey-dhhmac-08.txt _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Thu Feb 17 10:48:01 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA08819 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:48:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7F18D149; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:48:02 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7819D8D107 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:48:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56427 invoked by uid 3269); 17 Feb 2005 15:48:00 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 56424 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2005 15:48:00 -0000 Received: from igw2.watson.ibm.com (129.34.20.6) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2005 15:48:00 -0000 Received: from sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com [129.34.20.40]) by igw2.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j1HFlxa311552 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:47:59 -0500 Received: from sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_2) with ESMTP id j1HFlwf62828 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:47:58 -0500 Received: from ornavella.watson.ibm.com (ornavella.watson.ibm.com [9.2.16.80]) by sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_1) with ESMTP id j1HFlws62826 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:47:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (canetti@localhost) by ornavella.watson.ibm.com (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0/03-06-2002) with ESMTP id j1HFlvT30862 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:47:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:47:56 -0500 (EST) From: canetti To: msec@securemulticast.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [MSEC] draft-ietf-mmusic-kmgmt-ext-13.txt X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Folks, The security ADs have asked for an MSEC review of the following ID (which is handled in mmusic): http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mmusic-kmgmt-ext-13.txt The ID is indeed very relevant to MSEC, in that it describes how to use key management protocols in order to secure the data in a potentially one to many setting. Please take the time to review the ID and comment to the list. Thomas and Ran _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Thu Feb 17 10:53:31 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA09707 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784458CA9F; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:53:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A99B8C3F2 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:53:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 57541 invoked by uid 3269); 17 Feb 2005 15:53:30 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 57537 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2005 15:53:29 -0000 Received: from igw2.watson.ibm.com (129.34.20.6) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 17 Feb 2005 15:53:29 -0000 Received: from sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com [129.34.20.41]) by igw2.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j1HFrSa210154 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:53:28 -0500 Received: from sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_2) with ESMTP id j1HFrSJ37632 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:53:28 -0500 Received: from ornavella.watson.ibm.com (ornavella.watson.ibm.com [9.2.16.80]) by sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_1) with ESMTP id j1HFrR537474 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:53:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (canetti@localhost) by ornavella.watson.ibm.com (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0/03-06-2002) with ESMTP id j1HFrQM32278 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:53:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:53:25 -0500 (EST) From: canetti To: msec@securemulticast.org Subject: Re: [MSEC] draft-ietf-mmusic-kmgmt-ext-13.txt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Forgot to mention: The document is under IESG review and is held back for our review. So please take the time to go over it in the next few days. Thanks, Thomas and Ran On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, canetti wrote: > > Folks, > > The security ADs have asked for an MSEC review of the following ID > (which is handled in mmusic): > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mmusic-kmgmt-ext-13.txt > > The ID is indeed very relevant to MSEC, in that it describes how to use > key management protocols in order to secure the data in a potentially > one to many setting. Please take the time to review the ID and comment to > the list. > > Thomas and Ran > _______________________________________________ > msec mailing list > msec@securemulticast.org > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec > _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Fri Feb 18 12:51:51 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA13054 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D1D8CF89; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:51:50 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ECAE98CF78 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 65954 invoked by uid 3269); 18 Feb 2005 17:51:48 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 65951 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2005 17:51:48 -0000 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (64.233.170.203) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2005 17:51:48 -0000 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id y7so606699rne for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:51:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=qn85wCRPrtZ6iSmQTPPuDICRlwcI2n2TMW2G+Py2GeA58Nnh2eFzOW1rawPLmKDGWmMJSlMq2fkIy1/4PbhTwJludf2kI7pvJ226rUeOvPFna7G+Hm31JyudUF+bAOq+sefvQD+DDO9VyQdFagrNpJ/rGh4z3RzuyPMq9cSTyiI= Received: by 10.38.78.59 with SMTP id a59mr124129rnb; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.82.11 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:51:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <920567a605021809513c258ec0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 12:51:47 -0500 From: Roger Khazan To: msec@securemulticast.org Subject: [MSEC] applications and motivation for mcast and group security In-Reply-To: <920567a605021711584813b625@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <920567a605021711584813b625@mail.gmail.com> X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Roger Khazan List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been reading a lot about multicast and group security and I am having hard time finding information about specific applications and motivation, especially for decentralized solutions. One application that comes to mind is group chat and shared collaborative workspace. But there must be others... I am wondering if people could share with me their thoughts and knowledge about *specific* applications that require multicast security and group security. Also, which specific applications require (or can benefit from) *decentralized* key agreement solutions? Which ones assume *centralized* solutions? I am looking for both single-sender and multi-sender applications. Don't limit yourself to collaborative applications; maybe there are some involving sensors or multicast tree management, or some military applications? I am looking for specific descriptions, not just general areas. Are there systems *deployed in the world* today that utilize multicast and group security? Which ones? Which schemes do they use? Are there examples in the past where we did not have group security in place, but we wish we did? I'd like someone to make a compelling case why all this stuff is necessary. If you work on designing group security schemes, which big problem are you fixing? Which prototype systems have been implemented and are available for download and/or purchase? Once I get responses from individual contributors, I will compile this information and either send it to the list or provide it to the individual contributors. Or, you can post your responses to the list. Thank you, Roger Khazan MIT Lincoln Laboratory _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Fri Feb 18 23:01:58 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA20371 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2818C289; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:01:58 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 52D128C29B for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:01:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63146 invoked by uid 3269); 19 Feb 2005 04:01:57 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 63115 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2005 04:01:52 -0000 Received: from igw2.watson.ibm.com (129.34.20.6) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2005 04:01:52 -0000 Received: from sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com [129.34.20.40]) by igw2.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j1J41qa487810 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:01:52 -0500 Received: from sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_2) with ESMTP id j1J41of38456 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:01:50 -0500 Received: from mgsmtp00 (mgsmtp00.watson.ibm.com [9.2.40.58]) by sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_1) with ESMTP id j1J41os44010 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:01:50 -0500 Received: from ornavella.watson.ibm.com ([9.2.16.80]) by mgsmtp00.watson.ibm.com ID IMFd1108785618.1; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:00:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (canetti@localhost) by ornavella.watson.ibm.com (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0/03-06-2002) with ESMTP id j1J41lq35540; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:01:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:01:47 -0500 (EST) From: canetti To: Euchner Martin Subject: Re: [MSEC] RE: Last Call: 'HMAC-authenticated Diffie-Hellman for MIKEY' to P roposed Standard In-Reply-To: <8C878B55C96F924389908D4A7384842A03A02E7A@mchh2c7e.mchh.siemens.de> Message-ID: References: <8C878B55C96F924389908D4A7384842A03A02E7A@mchh2c7e.mchh.siemens.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "'housley@vigilsec.com'" , "'thardjono@verisign.com'" , msec@securemulticast.org X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Martin, According to the I-D tracker this draft is under IESG review. (And this is consistent with my memory...) Ran On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Euchner Martin wrote: > The last call period of draft-ietf-msec-mikey-dhhmac-09.txt has ended yesterday. > > I have not received or seen any comments against the draft. > > With kind regards > > Martin Euchner. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of The IESG > Sent: Dienstag, 1. Februar 2005 20:19 > To: IETF-Announce > Cc: msec@securemulticast.org > Subject: Last Call: 'HMAC-authenticated Diffie-Hellman for MIKEY' to Proposed Standard > > The IESG has received a request from the Multicast Security WG to consider the > following document: > > - 'HMAC-authenticated Diffie-Hellman for MIKEY' > as a Proposed Standard > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits > final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the > iesg@ietf.org or ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2005-02-15. > > The file can be obtained via > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-msec-mikey-dhhmac-08.txt > > > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > _______________________________________________ > msec mailing list > msec@securemulticast.org > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec > _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Fri Feb 18 23:05:31 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA20695 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:05:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BEF8C282; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:05:32 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 73BB78C20B for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:05:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 63664 invoked by uid 3269); 19 Feb 2005 04:05:31 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 63661 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2005 04:05:31 -0000 Received: from igw2.watson.ibm.com (129.34.20.6) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2005 04:05:31 -0000 Received: from sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com [129.34.20.40]) by igw2.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j1J45Ua329694 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:05:30 -0500 Received: from sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_2) with ESMTP id j1J45Uf45980 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:05:30 -0500 Received: from mgsmtp00 (mgsmtp00.watson.ibm.com [9.2.40.58]) by sp1n294en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_1) with ESMTP id j1J45Ts61340 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:05:29 -0500 Received: from ornavella.watson.ibm.com ([9.2.16.80]) by mgsmtp00.watson.ibm.com ID IMFd1108785838.1; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:03:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (canetti@localhost) by ornavella.watson.ibm.com (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0/03-06-2002) with ESMTP id j1J45SF16514 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:05:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 23:05:27 -0500 (EST) From: canetti To: msec@securemulticast.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [MSEC] last call for draft-ietf-msec-srtp-tesla-03.txt X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Folks, This is a last call for the I-D: draft-ietf-msec-srtp-tesla-03.txt Recall that in the last MSEC meeting there was a discussion whether to join this draft with the srtp-tesla draft (or alternatively with mikey) but the consensus in the end was to keep it as a separate document. Please post your comments by Friday, March 4. Best, Thomas and Ran _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Sat Feb 19 20:56:02 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA28871 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0878C53B; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:56:03 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B2FF8C163 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 85824 invoked by uid 3269); 20 Feb 2005 01:56:02 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 85821 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2005 01:56:01 -0000 Received: from sj-iport-3-in.cisco.com (HELO sj-iport-3.cisco.com) (171.71.176.72) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2005 01:56:01 -0000 Received: from sj-core-1.cisco.com (171.71.177.237) by sj-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Feb 2005 19:09:48 +0000 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="3.90,100,1107734400"; d="scan'208"; a="226965300:sNHT21045108" Received: from imail.cisco.com (imail.cisco.com [128.107.200.91]) by sj-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j1K1tuuC010233; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (sjc-vpn1-695.cisco.com [10.21.98.183]) by imail.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1K1ob2J008257; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:50:37 -0800 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8b3650a3948223aaa6db7dd58bff8a0a@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Baugher Subject: Re: [MSEC] last call for draft-ietf-msec-srtp-tesla-03.txt Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:55:56 -0800 To: canetti X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) IIM-SIG: v:"1.1"; h:"imail.cisco.com"; d:"cisco.com"; z:"home"; m:"krs"; t:"1108864237.594376"; x:"432200"; a:"rsa-sha1"; b:"nofws:745"; e:"Iw=="; n:"sQYarK2E51MdcTiUqeif3F7cWdxIfoCiXhdfb9vD5ee/j0jXL15gbFxF2p" "XIweAblu0N6XAgK7k+wrbr7bQDJaCDqOmzqpRUBjIRQAXQ7NzadpmR3pUL6wxaRUtW+c43sl9jC" "50Qg1sXHpPjt8Y+Y16ioyQAQAdSunM4YhevURc="; s:"MWnu4kgogwJClbw4PBxa9eqOQw4k4Z/0XMhK/St5VUWwi5/Dj2ps12cCNLbFTIwB/DsGlVoW" "I9oUgoWnEVSCvahdsiqwd0K8sHqIV4ZwGG9B2OLrtCnJycHViR3bW2Tuq+7Q6ODpQq9CbrlPHfc" "m43eG3XnO+rVbECquLsEVj0Q="; c:"From: Mark Baugher "; c:"Subject: Re: [MSEC] last call for draft-ietf-msec-srtp-tesla-03.txt"; c:"Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:55:56 -0800" IIM-VERIFY: s:"y"; v:"y"; r:"60"; h:"imail.cisco.com"; c:"message from imail.cisco.com verified; " Cc: msec@securemulticast.org X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ran, On Feb 18, 2005, at 8:05 PM, canetti wrote: > > Folks, > > This is a last call for the I-D: > > draft-ietf-msec-srtp-tesla-03.txt > > Recall that in the last MSEC meeting there was a discussion whether to > join this draft with the srtp-tesla draft (or alternatively with mikey) > but the consensus in the end was to keep it as a separate document. I don't recall any such discussion. I don't recall ever considering merging srtp-tesla with anything. There is another draft floating around on how to signal srtp-tesla in MIKEY. I offered to put that in the srtp-tesla draft along with a Security Descriptions signaling section. We decided not to do that. Mark > > > Please post your comments by Friday, March 4. > > Best, > > Thomas and Ran > > _______________________________________________ > msec mailing list > msec@securemulticast.org > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec > _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Sat Feb 19 22:32:55 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA04481 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:32:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F528CA8E; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:32:57 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C1B6A8C859 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:32:55 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4518 invoked by uid 3269); 20 Feb 2005 03:32:55 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 4515 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2005 03:32:55 -0000 Received: from igw2.watson.ibm.com (129.34.20.6) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2005 03:32:55 -0000 Received: from sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com [129.34.20.41]) by igw2.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j1K3Wsa203804 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:32:54 -0500 Received: from sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_2) with ESMTP id j1K3WsJ38986 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:32:54 -0500 Received: from mgsmtp00 (mgsmtp00.watson.ibm.com [9.2.40.58]) by sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_1) with ESMTP id j1K3Wr535600 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:32:53 -0500 Received: from ornavella.watson.ibm.com ([9.2.16.80]) by mgsmtp00.watson.ibm.com ID IMFd1108870279.1; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:31:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (canetti@localhost) by ornavella.watson.ibm.com (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0/03-06-2002) with ESMTP id j1K3Wpr32924; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:32:51 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:32:36 -0500 (EST) From: canetti To: Mark Baugher Subject: Re: [MSEC] last call for draft-ietf-msec-srtp-tesla-03.txt In-Reply-To: <8b3650a3948223aaa6db7dd58bff8a0a@cisco.com> Message-ID: References: <8b3650a3948223aaa6db7dd58bff8a0a@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: msec@securemulticast.org X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org oops... I meant draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt. Sorry, and thanks Mark for the catch! (At least this way I know that someone is reading these mails... :) I'll post a corrceted last call. Ran On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, Mark Baugher wrote: > Ran, > > On Feb 18, 2005, at 8:05 PM, canetti wrote: > > > > > Folks, > > > > This is a last call for the I-D: > > > > draft-ietf-msec-srtp-tesla-03.txt > > > > Recall that in the last MSEC meeting there was a discussion whether to > > join this draft with the srtp-tesla draft (or alternatively with mikey) > > but the consensus in the end was to keep it as a separate document. > > I don't recall any such discussion. I don't recall ever considering > merging srtp-tesla with anything. There is another draft floating > around on how to signal srtp-tesla in MIKEY. I offered to put that in > the srtp-tesla draft along with a Security Descriptions signaling > section. We decided not to do that. > > Mark > > > > > > Please post your comments by Friday, March 4. > > > > Best, > > > > Thomas and Ran > > > > _______________________________________________ > > msec mailing list > > msec@securemulticast.org > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec > > > _______________________________________________ > msec mailing list > msec@securemulticast.org > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec > _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Sat Feb 19 22:35:55 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA04651 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:35:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2388C976; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:35:57 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 22AAC8C859 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:35:56 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 4987 invoked by uid 3269); 20 Feb 2005 03:35:55 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 4984 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2005 03:35:55 -0000 Received: from igw2.watson.ibm.com (129.34.20.6) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2005 03:35:55 -0000 Received: from sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com [129.34.20.41]) by igw2.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.4) with ESMTP id j1K3Zta203866 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:35:55 -0500 Received: from sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_2) with ESMTP id j1K3ZsJ44686 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:35:54 -0500 Received: from mgsmtp00 (mgsmtp00.watson.ibm.com [9.2.40.58]) by sp1n293en1.watson.ibm.com (8.11.7-20030924/8.11.7/01-14-2004_1) with ESMTP id j1K3Zs544684 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:35:54 -0500 Received: from ornavella.watson.ibm.com ([9.2.16.80]) by mgsmtp00.watson.ibm.com ID IMFd1108870460.1; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:34:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (canetti@localhost) by ornavella.watson.ibm.com (AIX5.1/8.11.6p2/8.11.0/03-06-2002) with ESMTP id j1K3Zq931894 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:35:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 22:35:52 -0500 (EST) From: canetti To: msec@securemulticast.org Subject: Re: [MSEC] last call for draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Folks, This is a last call for the I-D: draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping-tesla-00.txt Recall that in the last MSEC meeting there was a discussion whether to join this draft with the srtp-tesla draft (or alternatively with mikey) but the consensus in the end was to keep it as a separate document. Please post your comments by Friday, March 4. Best, Thomas and Ran _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Tue Feb 22 18:17:31 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA07214 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9AE8C63E; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:17:07 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CDC48C498 for ; Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:17:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 68281 invoked by uid 3269); 22 Feb 2005 23:17:04 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 68278 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2005 23:17:04 -0000 Received: from smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (66.163.169.226) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2005 23:17:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mou1thardjon-l1.yahoo.com) (thardjono@67.161.47.160 with login) by smtp106.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2005 23:17:03 -0000 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050211112850.028a4228@pop.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 15:17:00 -0800 To: msec@securemulticast.org From: Thomas Hardjono Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: thardjono@yahoo.com Subject: [MSEC] Call for Agenda items for MSEC at IETF62 (Minneapolis) X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Folks, As of today, MSEC scheduled as follows for Minneapolis: WEDNESDAY, March 9, 2005 0900-1130 Morning Sessions SEC msec Multicast Security WG So far we have the following agenda items: - WG Status review (Ran/Thomas) - Additional mode of key distribution for MIKEY (D. Ignjatic/L. Dondeti) - MIKEY - using elliptic-curve cryptographic methods (Mitch Blaser) Please email Ran/myself with additional agenda items. Regards. Ran/thomas ---------- _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Wed Feb 23 05:03:03 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id FAA25733 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:03:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A380B8C7C7; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:02:58 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C4BEF8C7B6 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 05:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 9663 invoked by uid 3269); 23 Feb 2005 10:02:57 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 9658 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2005 10:02:57 -0000 Received: from tama5.ecl.ntt.co.jp (129.60.39.102) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2005 10:02:57 -0000 Received: from vcs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (vcs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.39.110]) by tama5.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1NA1W8J020137; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:01:32 +0900 (JST) Received: from vcs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vcs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1NA1WqG011685; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:01:32 +0900 (JST) Received: from mfs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (mfs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.39.112]) by vcs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1NA1VIa011674; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:01:31 +0900 (JST) Received: from mfs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mfs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1NA1V5q026713; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:01:31 +0900 (JST) Received: from nttmail3.ecl.ntt.co.jp ([129.60.39.100]) by mfs3.rdh.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1NA1UpV026710; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:01:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from eclscan3.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp (eclscan3.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.5.69]) by nttmail3.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1NA1UJ5012474; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:01:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from eclscan3.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eclscan3.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1NA1UOd005394; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:01:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from imf.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp (imf0.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp [129.60.5.144]) by eclscan3.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1NA1T3E005390; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:01:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from hiroshi-tp3.lab.ntt.co.jp by imf.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp (8.9.3p2/3.7W) with ESMTP id TAA29059; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:01:29 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20050223190101.03ec0f50@imf.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp> X-Sender: ho016@imf.m.ecl.ntt.co.jp X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6J Jr6-rev2 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 19:01:09 +0900 To: msec@securemulticast.org From: Hiroshi Ohta Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [MSEC] New and Revised drafts on well managed IP multicasting X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, We submitted a new and a revised I-Ds as below and planning to present in mboned session in the coming IETF-62 meeting. Any comments/feedbacks are welcome. New draft: Revised draft: ... to be posted soon Best regards, Hiroshi ---------------------------------------- Hiroshi OHTA NTT Network Service Systems Laboratories Tel: +81 422 59 3617 Fax: +81 422 59 5636 E-mail: ohta.hiroshi@lab.ntt.co.jp _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Wed Feb 23 14:42:45 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA04306 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:42:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F4C28C834; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:42:37 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ECEE68C61A for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 19650 invoked by uid 3269); 23 Feb 2005 19:42:35 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 19646 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2005 19:42:35 -0000 Received: from smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (66.163.169.227) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2005 19:42:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mou1thardjon-l1.yahoo.com) (thardjono@67.161.47.160 with login) by smtp107.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2005 19:42:34 -0000 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050223110113.028c4100@pop.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:42:01 -0800 To: msec@securemulticast.org, housley@vigilsec.com, hartmans-ietf@mit.edu From: Thomas Hardjono Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Cc: canetti@watson.ibm.com, thardjono@verisign.com, ldondeti@nortel.com Subject: [MSEC] Stepping-down from MSEC co-chair + Lakshminath as new co-chair X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Folks, After nearly 5 years in SMuG and MSEC, I've decided its time to step-down as co-chair of MSEC. My day-job has a focus away from multicast security. In addition, I'm currently also a co-chair of a different group (NB. doing 2 co-chair tasks is rather a handful:) With Ran's agreement, Lakshminath Dondeti has kindly accepted the role of the new MSEC Co-Chair. Lakshminath has been involved in multicast security since the SMuG days in 1999, and thus he is aware of the history and the work-items of SMuG and MSEC. As usual, I will still be attending the IETF and MSEC meetings, and will continue to handle the MSEC mailing-list and MSEC website. For the transition period, please copy Lakshminath on your emails to Ran/myself concerning drafts and other MSEC issues. Thanks very much for everybody's kind help with running MSEC. Its been a pleasure working closely with the SMuG/MSEC community. Regards. thomas ------ _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec From msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Fri Feb 25 18:01:50 2005 Received: from six.pairlist.net (six.pairlist.net [209.68.2.254]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA11222 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from six.pairlist.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5388E8CAEA; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:01:50 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: msec@lists6.securemulticast.org Delivered-To: msec@six.pairlist.net Received: from klesh.pair.com (klesh.pair.com [209.68.2.45]) by six.pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 327948C6C5 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 18:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 20935 invoked by uid 3269); 25 Feb 2005 23:01:49 -0000 Delivered-To: ietfsmug-securemulticast:org-msec@securemulticast.org Received: (qmail 20932 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2005 23:01:49 -0000 Received: from sj-iport-5.cisco.com (171.68.10.87) by klesh.pair.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2005 23:01:49 -0000 Received: from sj-core-3.cisco.com (171.68.223.137) by sj-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 25 Feb 2005 15:02:36 -0800 X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-IronPort-AV: i="3.90,118,1107763200"; d="scan'208"; a="163850962:sNHT20691704" Received: from cisco.com (stealth-10-32-244-211.cisco.com [10.32.244.211]) by sj-core-3.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with SMTP id j1PN1gwN012121; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:01:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <421FAE86.7070108@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:02:30 -0800 From: Brian Weis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: canetti Subject: Re: [MSEC] last call for draft-ietf-msec-srtp-tesla-03.txt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: msec@securemulticast.org X-BeenThere: msec@securemulticast.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "IETF Multicast Security \(MSEC\) WG list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Errors-To: msec-bounces@securemulticast.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've reviewed the draft, and it seems complete to me. Brian canetti wrote: >Folks, > >This is a last call on draft-ietf-msec-srtp-tesla-03.txt. >Please post your comments before March 1. > >Note: following the discussion on the list few months ago, the draft now >states that a recipient SHOULD drop a packet if it does not manage to >authenticate it because it arrived too late. > >Thomas and Ran > >_______________________________________________ >msec mailing list >msec@securemulticast.org >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec > > > -- Brian Weis Advanced Security Development, Security Technology Group, Cisco Systems Telephone: +1 408 526 4796 Email: bew@cisco.com _______________________________________________ msec mailing list msec@securemulticast.org http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/msec