From cakulev@alcatel-lucent.com Fri Oct 16 08:18:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: msec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: msec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F27328C216 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:18:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q90A6JhEVRuO for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com (ihemail2.lucent.com [135.245.0.35]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FBB3A685B for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihrh1.emsr.lucent.com (h135-1-218-53.lucent.com [135.1.218.53]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id n9GFIVWx017330 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:18:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from USNAVSXCHHUB02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com (usnavsxchhub02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com [135.3.39.111]) by ihrh1.emsr.lucent.com (8.13.8/emsr) with ESMTP id n9GFIVCU020323 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:18:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from USNAVSXCHMBSA3.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.3.39.127]) by USNAVSXCHHUB02.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.3.39.111]) with mapi; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:18:31 -0500 From: "Cakulev, Violeta (Violeta)" To: "msec@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 10:18:30 -0500 Thread-Topic: draft-cakulev-mikey-ibake-00 Thread-Index: AcpNA8oqxN9jopXsSnyBqbllpSn+WQBbjeIw Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.35 Subject: [MSEC] draft-cakulev-mikey-ibake-00 X-BeenThere: msec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Security List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:18:29 -0000 All, I've uploaded a draft on a new mode of MIKEY that is based on Identity Base= d Authenticated Key Exchange framework. Identity Based Authenticated Key Exchange (IBAKE) framework was presented i= n the last saag meeting. This draft specifies the application of IBAKE for multimedia Internet keyin= g. All comments are highly appreciated. Thanks, -Violeta A new version of I-D, draft-cakulev-mikey-ibake-00.txt has been successfuly= submitted by Violeta Cakulev and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-cakulev-mikey-ibake Revision: 00 Title: MIKEY-IBAKE: Identity-Based Mode of Key Distribution in Mu= ltimedia Internet KEYing (MIKEY) Creation_date: 2009-10-14 WG ID: Independent Submission Number_of_pages: 33 Abstract: This document describes a key management protocol variant for the multimedi= a Internet keying (MIKEY) protocol which relies on trusted key management s= ervice. In particular, this variant utilizes Identity Based Authenticated = Key Exchange framework which allows the participating clients to perform mu= tual authentication and derive a session key in an 'asymmetric identity bas= ed encryption' framework. This framework, in addition to providing mutual authentication, eliminates = the key escrow problem that is common in standard Identity Based Encryption= while simultaneously providing perfect forward and backwards secrecy. The IETF Secretariat. From bew@cisco.com Wed Oct 21 09:34:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: msec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: msec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92083A69BF for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:34:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vhPZWnIBYYDV for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F273A69B6 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:34:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=bew@cisco.com; l=280; q=dns/txt; s=sjiport06001; t=1256142873; x=1257352473; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Brian=20Weis=20|Subject:=20Call =20for=20agenda=20items|Date:=20Wed,=2021=20Oct=202009=20 09:34:31=20-0700|Message-Id:=20<68DBBA51-F49A-4018-86EA-2 702B790E71B@cisco.com>|To:=20msec@ietf.org|Mime-Version: =201.0=20(Apple=20Message=20framework=20v936) |Content-Transfer-Encoding:=207bit; bh=C2mq9JOGKeCPTWyDLtja2aLDG/XQcAeVKvSKi5+Er88=; b=r49vA5Qr99h+h0+tJIv7MA1LMxBRrs6DgTN531TMs8upcUGWZb4nRdhr g4deK0sDPr+U/fwUaabXEbPgweTVEQBRtIwdrCnYEEDR5o+L2SOvtQlbd F1czsAmI3rVMNyrNgxxqzL2JHo1quwC8KdgPiABilJMP8cpAlsPscy/jq w=; Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAJzU3kqrR7Hu/2dsb2JhbADDeIkaCY80gk6BYwQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,598,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="414488242" Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com ([171.71.177.238]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 21 Oct 2009 16:34:33 +0000 Received: from stealth-10-32-244-214.cisco.com (stealth-10-32-244-214.cisco.com [10.32.244.214]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9LGYWi9025637 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:34:32 GMT Message-Id: <68DBBA51-F49A-4018-86EA-2702B790E71B@cisco.com> From: Brian Weis To: msec@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:34:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Subject: [MSEC] Call for agenda items X-BeenThere: msec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Security List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:34:25 -0000 Folks, MSEC WG will be meeting in Hiroshima. If you would like to propose an agenda item, please send it to me or post it to the list. Thanks, Brian -- Brian Weis Router/Switch Security Group, ARTG, Cisco Systems Telephone: +1 408 526 4796 Email: bew@cisco.com From dbernard@ozonline.com.au Wed Oct 21 13:52:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: msec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: msec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B8E28C14E for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:52:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.329 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.329 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.371, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_AU=0.377, HOST_EQ_AU=0.327, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R+ApIlKSrTNh for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.ozonline.com.au (smtp.ozonline.com.au [203.4.248.46]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3090328C14C for ; Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DanielPC (adsl-syd-4-240.ozonline.com.au [210.4.231.240]) by smtp.ozonline.com.au (8.13.7/8.13.7) with SMTP id n9LKq9mu004820; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:52:10 +1100 Message-ID: <26D8D86F2C4E47DCA2243295FFAB9D35@DanielPC> From: "DB" To: "Brian Weis" , References: <68DBBA51-F49A-4018-86EA-2702B790E71B@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <68DBBA51-F49A-4018-86EA-2702B790E71B@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 07:51:49 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 Subject: Re: [MSEC] Call for agenda items X-BeenThere: msec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Security List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:52:07 -0000 I dont know how this works, but could this be included in your next agenda? I need your inputs and comments, http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-d-sec-udt-00 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Weis" To: Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:34 AM Subject: [MSEC] Call for agenda items > Folks, > > MSEC WG will be meeting in Hiroshima. If you would like to propose an > agenda item, please send it to me or post it to the list. > > Thanks, > Brian > > -- > Brian Weis > Router/Switch Security Group, ARTG, Cisco Systems > Telephone: +1 408 526 4796 > Email: bew@cisco.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > MSEC mailing list > MSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/msec > > _____________________________________________________ > This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line > see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning > From john.mattsson@ericsson.com Mon Oct 26 02:50:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: msec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: msec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068783A6808 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:50:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Un2MdXFXet-P for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw5.ericsson.se (mailgw5.ericsson.se [193.180.251.36]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD0D3A687C for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:50:14 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb24-b7b12ae000007bda-93-4ae570e25469 Received: from esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw5.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 17.CF.31706.2E075EA4; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:50:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from esealmw121.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.200.80]) by esealmw127.eemea.ericsson.se with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:50:25 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:50:25 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: New draft: draft-mattsson-mikey-ticket-00 Thread-Index: AcpWIb3MZNy3s1x9RlCN2LI5roDAzw== From: "John Mattsson" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2009 09:50:25.0957 (UTC) FILETIME=[BE44CD50:01CA5621] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: [MSEC] New draft: draft-mattsson-mikey-ticket-00 X-BeenThere: msec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Security List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:50:16 -0000 Dear all, We have submitted the draft "MIKEY-TICKET: An Additional Mode of Key Distribution in Multimedia Internet KEYing (MIKEY)" It introduces a set of new MIKEY modes that go under the common name MIKEY-TICKET. It supports a ticket concept, similar to that in Kerberos [RFC4120], which is used to identify and deliver keys. A high level outline of MIKEY-TICKET as defined herein is that the Initiator requests keys and a ticket from the KMS (Key Management Service) and sends the ticket containing a reference to the keys, or the enveloped keys, to the Responder. The Responder then sends the ticket to the KMS, which returns the appropriate keys. The other modes are obtained from the above principle by short-cutting some of the signaling exchanges. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mattsson-mikey-ticket-00 MIKEY-TICKET is primarily designed to fulfill the requirements for media plane security in the 3GPP IP Multimedia Subsystem (IMS). http://www.3gpp.org/ftp/Specs/html-info/33328.htm Comments/recommendations would be appreciated. Best regards, John Mattsson From bew@cisco.com Mon Oct 26 19:46:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: msec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: msec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA70D3A67DA for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:46:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fyRMQlKDa4HG for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A733A677E for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:46:35 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: sj-iport-6.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAED85UqrR7H+/2dsb2JhbADAa4knCY4+glWBagQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,629,1249257600"; d="scan'208";a="418491243" Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com ([171.71.177.254]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2009 02:46:49 +0000 Received: from stealth-10-32-244-214.cisco.com (stealth-10-32-244-214.cisco.com [10.32.244.214]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9R2kn5K012507; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:46:49 GMT From: Brian Weis To: DB In-Reply-To: <26D8D86F2C4E47DCA2243295FFAB9D35@DanielPC> X-Priority: 3 References: <68DBBA51-F49A-4018-86EA-2702B790E71B@cisco.com> <26D8D86F2C4E47DCA2243295FFAB9D35@DanielPC> Message-Id: <14D29AF6-9540-4101-84CD-9975005B6B79@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:46:49 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: msec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [MSEC] Call for agenda items X-BeenThere: msec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Security List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:46:36 -0000 Hi DB, I've briefly reviewed this draft, and I don't think it fits into our charter which is summarized thusly: "The purpose of the MSEC WG is to standardize protocols for securing group communication over internets, and in particular over the global Internet." UDT doesn't seem to to be intended for multicast traffic, which is the most common type of group communication, and indeed the "M" in MSEC. I wish you the best in finding an appropriate working group for your work. Thanks, Brian On Oct 21, 2009, at 1:51 PM, DB wrote: > I dont know how this works, but could this be included in your next > agenda? > I need your inputs and comments, > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-d-sec-udt-00 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Weis" > To: > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:34 AM > Subject: [MSEC] Call for agenda items > > >> Folks, >> MSEC WG will be meeting in Hiroshima. If you would like to propose >> an agenda item, please send it to me or post it to the list. >> Thanks, >> Brian >> -- >> Brian Weis >> Router/Switch Security Group, ARTG, Cisco Systems >> Telephone: +1 408 526 4796 >> Email: bew@cisco.com >> _______________________________________________ >> MSEC mailing list >> MSEC@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/msec >> _____________________________________________________ >> This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line >> see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning >> > -- Brian Weis Router/Switch Security Group, ARTG, Cisco Systems Telephone: +1 408 526 4796 Email: bew@cisco.com