From sarikaya2012@gmail.com Thu Oct 4 15:23:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346F221F8507 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:23:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.488 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.488 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.111, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UPOIm8kjmkWV for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB53E21F8504 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 9so2564651iec.31 for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:23:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fsjyKVtOZ1OdM9gTYDDo4/v0EzSUoJQKbTsVf7G6k4U=; b=l2YIxHRmCmzevvLCFepkD9LogMovK9sxMRn3EoKw4rVo5DKECxdkCJHFfRFhEHfKbe 3O2etxMBS1JtpHp6Usbjk/igOgJeXGWKcg65PzOPU+h7dv5I0ZK0zQIgp07Ptnk/PKkj ILOsvLDXHY56v5IwDE0Hnesr04dRCu/OwiRk5Wn0IiqWYe6gGnJeabitpRcBtW1rfqd2 PhhHzZVylH8wlH1opqtRI62+nDOWbdYi3DTVqePQz8DzqhvufnraF4ltVrSfCljncHb4 hFKdUL2XIsmlMhkVjnJPcy1bTkmAvAnyU97CVgX0uXwDf279YkQCC0yO4Ks+lwaoMVaa ZOMw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.47.129 with SMTP id d1mr17374173ign.45.1349389437217; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 15:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.85.26 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:23:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Behcet Sarikaya To: multimob@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [multimob] IETF 85 Session X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: sarikaya@ieee.org List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 22:23:58 -0000 Hi all, We have been scheduled a 2 and a half hour session as follows: multimob Session 1 (2:30:00) Wednesday, Morning Session I 0900-1130 Room Name: Room 209 of course this could change before it becomes final. In Atlanta, we can spend some time on the handover solutions other than the WG draft with the aim of coming to a consensus agreement on the next steps. Feel free to ask for slots for Atlanta session. 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Schmidt" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "multimob@ietf.org" References: <20121020120401.15030.78489.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20121020120401.15030.78489.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20121020120401.15030.78489.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at informatik.haw-hamburg.de Subject: [multimob] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast-07.txt X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 12:06:27 -0000 Hi all, FYI. Cheers, Thomas -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast-07.txt Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:04:01 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: schmidt@informatik.haw-hamburg.de CC: gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk, rkoodli@cisco.com, mw@link-lab.net A new version of I-D, draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast-07.txt has been successfully submitted by Thomas C. Schmidt and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast Revision: 07 Title: Multicast Listener Extensions for MIPv6 and PMIPv6 Fast Handovers Creation date: 2012-10-20 WG ID: Individual Submission Number of pages: 27 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast-07.txt Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast-07 Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-schmidt-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast-07 Abstract: Fast handover protocols for MIPv6 and PMIPv6 define mobility management procedures that support unicast communication at reduced handover latency. Fast handover base operations do not affect multicast communication, and hence do not accelerate handover management for native multicast listeners. Many multicast applications like IPTV or conferencing, though, are comprised of delay-sensitive real-time traffic and will benefit from fast handover execution. This document specifies extension of the Mobile IPv6 Fast Handovers (FMIPv6) and the Fast Handovers for Proxy Mobile IPv6 (PFMIPv6) protocols to include multicast traffic management in fast handover operations. This multicast support is provided first at the control plane by a management of rapid context transfer between access routers, second at the data plane by an optional fast traffic forwarding that MAY include buffering. The IETF Secretariat From lmcm@tid.es Mon Oct 22 02:01:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499E621F88F3 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:01:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5b3rdiPpnEJz for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from correo-bck.tid.es (correo-bck.tid.es [195.235.93.200]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C02421F8870 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbrightmailg02.hi.inet (Sbrightmailg02.hi.inet [10.95.78.105]) by tid.hi.inet (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0MCA00KFHEE4CB@tid.hi.inet> for multimob@ietf.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:01:21 +0200 (MEST) Received: from vanvan (vanvan.hi.inet [10.95.78.49]) by sbrightmailg02.hi.inet (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 5A.30.05494.06B05805; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:01:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from correo.tid.es (mailhost.hi.inet [10.95.64.100]) by tid.hi.inet (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPS id <0MCA009S6EE7G5@tid.hi.inet> for multimob@ietf.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:01:20 +0200 (MEST) Received: from EX10-MB1-MAD.hi.inet ([169.254.1.178]) by ex10-htcas4-mad.hi.inet ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:01:15 +0200 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 09:01:15 +0000 From: LUIS MIGUEL CONTRERAS MURILLO In-reply-to: X-Originating-IP: [10.95.64.115] To: "Rahman, Akbar" Message-id: <823234EF5C7C334998D973D822FF801B1B84F739@EX10-MB1-MAD.hi.inet> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_yvM3Tgs2kj6i0Au6J7qQ0Q)" Content-language: es-ES Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Thread-topic: [multimob] Volunteers to review draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-01 Thread-index: Ac2cJEgS6uBlH8gaSBqw89rjTInmgwUDrkbw X-AuditID: 0a5f4e69-b7fc06d000001576-e0-50850b60eacb X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA02SbUgTYQDHfe5u2216dc6XPdoLNtIPleY0yCIiiELQYlgRmKAnu+0Ot2l3 U7RPiikhaWaJOhKWLHNiLFSc2oia9MEsDUwsMCEWlE4CJc3ZGN3tsPbt99z/7YF7cFTtlaXi rNVGc1bKrJWrMFXpZV1mWWyTPjvYr8nrXm/DzoF8pzOI6EGx6oyBNrM1NHf8bJmKWQpzVe4h pLZ5aQepB0O3kRagxCF5ArqcCwqJk+GHZbe8BahwNekBcHb2DyIdQgB+3+mRSYceABu9M6gY wch06Gh2AZHlpA7aJzpkIieQV+CXxbGIR0kWwi33CyBNpMHQrB8TOZHMhaE7jsgcSk4C2DnV FQkQZAGc3piWSRwPtx8sRwIoaYHjvT0KiTXw0c79iAeQB6BrbgZIpVfh6O9+ucQ5cHT9pVwa JqHTO4dKnARX/OFIVi1s3R3zKNpBsj1qzh41Z4+akzgLfup8KJf4KOx/HEAlzoTdYR8W/d0B FIMgmS/nWBNjs1Cs2ZSdk8WwWayVtg0D6fex4+DpxGEfIHGgjSPSOhv0ahlVw9dZfCAFR7RJ hFvRpFfvKa801DEUz5Ry1Waa9wGIo9pE4kKMoBEGqu4WzVXuSvtxXAuJ6ypBiudoE11rZM3C i9mVEVwpxuOEOC16CL6KsvCsSdLfgnT8zVrvV6DGrJVWOlVDUKKJFE1MtfVfzyrQCBdOIAyi Gic8yX8Nq0I5IpSfjG0Qy23Ufym1Hjj9jpv4sUMpIbKrscJfM5VxMH/+fEDRqjvVem3z/ec+ V29wHusaKKlYGA4Wt2dsD5IgP8P4Y/Xea8vIt7ZA4VpRWlWux7H+811e/2ZHodL4KvzrovfS vi1v3w3X6eXMxI8VRc+nC4yUqWRgb9hjcj2TPdkIjCytxDBz9sXJFS3GM5TuCMrx1F/DWjPM TwMAAA== References: Cc: "multimob@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [multimob] Volunteers to review draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-01 X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 09:01:33 -0000 --Boundary_(ID_yvM3Tgs2kj6i0Au6J7qQ0Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Akbar, I'm very sorry for our late response. Thank you very much for your in-deep = review and valuable comments. We have included the majority of them. Please= , see in line specific answers to your comments/suggestions Thanks again, Luis De: multimob-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:multimob-bounces@ietf.org] En nombre = de Rahman, Akbar Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 26 de septiembre de 2012 22:20 Para: sarikaya@ieee.org; multimob@ietf.org Asunto: Re: [multimob] Volunteers to review draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handov= er-01 Hi, As per my action, I have reviewed draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-01 and = have the following feedback to the authors: 1. In general, the I-D is well written and in pretty good technical shape.= However, I had the following comments that I suggest be incorporated into= an update before the WGLC. Detailed Comments: 2. Section 1 (Introduction) o I find the last paragraph in this section ("The solution described in = this document ...") to be ambiguous and hard to "prove". How can you reall= y demonstrate that the approach can be applied to "possible architectural e= volutions"? I would suggest removing this type of claim unless you can be = more specific. [Luis>>] This paragraph was written having in mind the architectural evolut= ions described in [I-D.ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt]. As this proposal is an a= dd-on to the set of PMIPv6 protocols, and there is no compatibility issues = identified with the solutions in [I-D.ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt], we think = that this statement remains valid at least for the mentioned architectural = evolutions. According to your suggestion we propose to modify the text in t= he following way: "The solution described in this document can be also appl= ied to the solutions described in [I-D.ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt]". o The above comment also applies to the similar statement in the abstrac= t, and section 6. [Luis>>] Similar change applies to section 6. For the abstract we modify th= e text in the following way: "These extensions are not only applicable to t= he base solution for multicast support in Proxy Mobile IPv6, but they can also be applied to other solutions being de= veloped to avoid the tunnel convergence problem." o In paragraph 3, should it be "active multicast content delivery" inste= ad of "active multicast subscription"? [Luis>>] The sentence "active multicast subscription" appears twice in the = paragraph, but our understanding is that in both cases it is the most appro= priate concept. By now we have not changed it, but, please provide addition= al comments on this if you feel it is necessary to change that. o In paragraph 4, I was not really sure if the base [RFC5949] can perfor= m the mechanism or not? (I.E. Does it necessarily require modifications to= [RFC5949] to perform the mechanism?) [Luis>>] We propose to change the wording, by using "could potentially be a= ccomplished by using some adaptation of [RFC5949] to multicast traffic" ins= tead of "can be accomplished by using [RFC5949] or some evolution of it " 3. Section 2 (Terminology) o The description of "Proactive handover" is confusing ("... the MN de-r= egistration from the pMAG previously to receive the MN registration from th= e nMAG"). [Luis>>] As per your comment, we propose the following definition: "A proac= tive handover is a handover event where the MN is firstly de-registered on = the LMA by the pMAG, and later on it is registered by the nMAG as consequen= ce of changing the point of attachment." 4. Section 3 (Overview) o It would help a lot for readability (and understandability) to have a = high level architecture picture in this section. Something along the lines= of Figure 1 of RFC 6224 would be an obvious starting point. [Luis>>] Done. We have included a high level figure showing the main idea o= f the solution. o The 2nd paragraph stresses that subscription info for an MN to the LMA= is only updated after a handover event. This may be true, but later secti= ons (e.g. Fig. 1) do specify other new info being exchanged without a hando= ver event. So this should also be mentioned for balance. [Luis>>] Agree. According to your suggestion we propose to include the foll= owing text: "However it should be noted that some signaling is needed to di= fferentiate what MNs are maintaining active subscriptions in order to restr= ict the optimization procedure to them in case of handover." 5. Section 4.2.1.1.2 (De-registration process) o In the S=3D1 description, it refers to the "IP addresses of the subscr= ibed group and the source providing it". I interpret the "source" to be re= ferring to the Source-Specific Multicast (SSM) of [RFC4604]. But I underst= and that an MN can also do a non SSM Join (i.e. indicate only the subscribe= d group IP address and no source). Is this supported in the draft? (This = comment applies to many places in the document). [Luis>>] Certainly, it seems more appropriate to refer to the "multicast co= ntext" or "multicast status information" rather than "IP addresses of the s= ubscribed group and the source providing it". This last sentence is out-of-= date once we have introduced in version -01 the new format for the Active M= ulticast Subscription mobility option (in section 4.1.1.2) including the Mu= lticast Address record inherited from RFC3810, as suggested by Hitoshi Asae= da in a previous review of the document. So, I agree we have to re-write th= ese kind of sentences in the sense I mention at the beginning. We have upda= ted the document accordingly. 6. Section 5.1.1 (Multicast Activity set to ON) o In Figure 1 and the corresponding text it indicates that the "Act Ind(= start)" for the particular MN is sent by the MAG to the LMA as soon as the = MLD Report is sent. I understand that this message will be sent for each s= imilar MN that attaches to the MAG (along with a corresponding ACK). What = are the signaling load implications for this between the MAG and the LMA? [Luis>>] This signaling message is used to allow the LMA to distinguish amo= ng MNs with on-going multicast subscription, and MN without active multicas= t status. This differentiation further allows to apply the optimization pro= cedure only to those MNs with active multicast subscription (no actions are= taken for MN without active multicast subscription). The signaling load of= the multicast activity represents one message (and the corresponding ack) = once the MN firstly subscribes to a multicast group, and another message (a= nd the corresponding ack) when the MN terminates the multicast subscription= at all. So, it can be seen as two pair of messages for the duration of the= multicast session. This mechanism is intended to avoid the unnecessary app= lication of this optimization procedure for MNs not having an active multic= ast subscription during a handover event, then preventing the LMA and the M= AGs to implement unnecessary actions in case of no active multicast session= during handover. In order to clarify this we have included the motivation = of this signaling in the document in section 5.1. o (My understanding is that in Fig. 1 the flag "A=3D1" is sent in a PBU = which normally would not have been sent at this point for unicast. Please = correct me if I am wrong). [Luis>>] Not actually. We define specific purpose messages for this in sect= ions 4.3.2.1 and 4.3.2.2. Using the regular PBU/BPA signaling exchange coul= d have been adopted instead, but in our opinion the use of specific purpose= messages represents a more lightweight method for signaling this issue. 7. Section 7 (Benefits of layer-2 triggers for fast handover) o It was unclear what the main point of this section is (i.e. what is th= e standards text)? I especially found the last sentence confusing ("... an= d that not all the multicast applications could take benefit of it, that fu= nctionality could be seen as optional for multicast handover optimization."= ) [Luis>>] We agree on removing this section. 8. Section 8 (Security Considerations) o You obviously need to complete this section before WGLC. [Luis>>] Agree. We have completed this section. 9. Section 10 (Contributors) o Somehow the phrase ".. has largely contributed.." does not read well (= perhaps just change "largely" to "extensively"). [Luis>>] Done. 10.General: I recall that the authors mentioned that they would do some sim= ulations to prove the benefit of this approach vs the baseline [RFC6224] ap= proach. I think that will be very useful so that the WG can trade the comp= lexity vs. performance benefits of this approach. I did in general find th= e complexity of even understanding all the different options (reactive vs. = proactive, Flag setting, prevention of unicast traffic delays, etc.) to be = a bit daunting. I had to go back to your PPT presentations from the IETF m= eetings to piece everything together (as those slides nicely captured the h= igh level flow). If we had the simulations then we could justify all the c= omplexity. Or even better perhaps support fewer options that give the majo= rity of the benefits? This to me is a key open issue. [Luis>>] For the sake of simplicity we have included a performance comparis= on analysis between this proposal and the base protocol focusing on the del= ay reduction that this method achieves. That's all. /Akbar -----Original Message----- From: multimob-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:m= ultimob-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Behcet Sarikaya Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:38 PM To: multimob@ietf.org Subject: [multimob] Volunteers to review draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-= 01 Hi all, In IETF84, three people volunteered to review draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-01, Thomas, Akbar and Costas. The volunteers, thanks for volunteering and please post your reviews on the list soon. Regards, Behcet _______________________________________________ multimob mailing list multimob@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/multimob ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Hi Akbar,

 

I’m very sorry f= or our late response. Thank you very much for your in-deep review and valua= ble comments. We have included the majority of them. Please, see in line sp= ecific answers to your comments/suggestions

 

Thanks again,

 

Luis

 

 

De: multimob-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:multimob-bounces@ietf.org= ] En nombre de Rahman, Akbar
Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 26 de septiembre de 2012 22:20
Para: sarikaya@ieee.org; multimob@ietf.org
Asunto: Re: [multimob] Volunteers to review draft-ietf-multimob-fast= -handover-01

 

Hi,

 

 

As per my action, I have reviewed draft-ietf-mult= imob-fast-handover-01 and have the following feedback to the authors:

 

 

1.=   In general, the I-D is well written and in pretty good techni= cal shape.  However, I had the following comments that I suggest be in= corporated into an update before the WGLC.

 

Detailed Comments= :

2.=   Section 1 (Introduction)

o =    I find the last paragraph in this section (“The = solution described in this document …”) to be ambiguous and har= d to “prove”.  How can you really demonstrate that the app= roach can be applied to “possible architectural evolutions”?&nb= sp; I would suggest removing this type of claim unless you can be more specific.

[Luis>>] This paragraph was writte= n having in mind the architectural evolutions described in [I-D.ietf-multim= ob-pmipv6-ropt]. As this proposal is an add-on to the set of PMIPv6 protocols, and there is no compatibility issues identified w= ith the solutions in [I-D.ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt], we think that this st= atement remains valid at least for the mentioned architectural evolutions. = According to your suggestion we propose to modify the text in the following way: “The solution descr= ibed in this document can be also applied to the solutions described in [I-= D.ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt]”.

o =    The above comment also applies to the similar statemen= t in the abstract, and section 6.

[Luis>>] Similar change applies to= section 6. For the abstract we modify the text in the following way: ̶= 1;These extensions are not only applicable to the base solution for multicast support in

Proxy Mobile I= Pv6, but they can also be applied to other solutions being developed to avo= id the tunnel convergence problem.”

o =    In paragraph 3, should it be “active multicast c= ontent delivery” instead of “active multicast subscription̶= 1;?

[Luis>>] The sentence “activ= e multicast subscription” appears twice in the paragraph, but our und= erstanding is that in both cases it is the most appropriate concept. By now we have not changed it, but, please provide additional comments on = this if you feel it is necessary to change that.

o =    In paragraph 4, I was not really sure if the base [RFC= 5949] can perform the mechanism or not?  (I.E. Does it necessarily req= uire modifications to [RFC5949] to perform the mechanism?)

[Luis>>] We propose to change the = wording, by using “could potentially be accomplished by using some ad= aptation of [RFC5949] to multicast traffic” instead of “can be accomplished by using [RFC5949] or some evolution of it ”

 

3.=   Section 2 (Terminology)

o =    The description of “Proactive handover” is= confusing (“… the MN de-registration from the pMAG previously = to receive the MN registration from the nMAG”).

[Luis>>] As per your comment, we p= ropose the following definition: ”A proactive handover is a handover = event where the MN is firstly de-registered on the LMA by the pMAG, and later on it is registered by the nMAG as consequence of changing= the point of attachment.”

 

4.=   Section 3 (Overview)

o =    It would help a lot for readability (and understandabi= lity) to have a high level architecture picture in this section.  Some= thing along the lines of Figure 1 of RFC 6224 would be an obvious starting = point.

[Luis>>] Done. We have included a = high level figure showing the main idea of the solution.

o =    The 2nd paragraph stresses that subscriptio= n info for an MN to the LMA is only updated after a handover event.  T= his may be true, but later sections (e.g. Fig. 1) do specify other new info= being exchanged without a handover event.  So this should also be mentioned for balance.

[Luis>>] Agree. According to your = suggestion we propose to include the following text: ”However it shou= ld be noted that some signaling is needed to differentiate what MNs are maintaining active subscriptions in order to restrict the optimiza= tion procedure to them in case of handover.”

 

5.=   Section 4.2.1.1.2 (De-registration process)

o =    In the S=3D1 description, it refers to the “IP a= ddresses of the subscribed group and the source providing it”.  = I interpret the “source” to be referring to the Source-Specific= Multicast (SSM) of [RFC4604].  But I understand that an MN can also do a non SSM Join (i.e. indicate only the subscribed group IP address= and no source).  Is this supported in the draft?  (This comment = applies to many places in the document).

[Luis>>] Certainly, it seems more = appropriate to refer to the “multicast context” or “multi= cast status information” rather than “IP addresses of the subsc= ribed group and the source providing it”. This last sentence is out-of-date once= we have introduced in version -01 the new format for the Active Multicast = Subscription mobility option (in section 4.1.1.2) including the Multicast A= ddress record inherited from RFC3810, as suggested by Hitoshi Asaeda in a previous review of the document. So, I= agree we have to re-write these kind of sentences in the sense I mention a= t the beginning. We have updated the document accordingly.

 

6.=   Section 5.1.1 (Multicast Activity set to ON)

o =    In Figure 1 and the corresponding text it indicates th= at the “Act Ind(start)” for the particular MN is sent by the MA= G to the LMA as soon as the MLD Report is sent.  I understand that thi= s message will be sent for each similar MN that attaches to the MAG (along with a corresponding ACK).  What are the signaling = load implications for this between the MAG and the LMA?

[Luis>>] This signaling message is= used to allow the LMA to distinguish among MNs with on-going multicast sub= scription, and MN without active multicast status. This differentiation further allows to apply the optimization procedure only to= those MNs with active multicast subscription (no actions are taken for MN = without active multicast subscription). The signaling load of the multicast= activity represents one message (and the corresponding ack) once the MN firstly subscribes to a multicast = group, and another message (and the corresponding ack) when the MN terminat= es the multicast subscription at all. So, it can be seen as two pair of mes= sages for the duration of the multicast session. This mechanism is intended to avoid the unnecessary application o= f this optimization procedure for MNs not having an active multicast subscr= iption during a handover event, then preventing the LMA and the MAGs to imp= lement unnecessary actions in case of no active multicast session during handover. In order to clarify this w= e have included the motivation of this signaling in the document in section= 5.1.

o =    (My understanding is that in Fig. 1 the flag “A= =3D1” is sent in a PBU which normally would not have been sent at thi= s point for unicast.  Please correct me if I am wrong).

[Luis>>] Not actually. We define s= pecific purpose messages for this in sections 4.3.2.1 and 4.3.2.2. Using th= e regular PBU/BPA signaling exchange could have been adopted instead, but in our opinion the use of specific purpose messages represent= s a more lightweight method for signaling this issue.

 

7.=   Section 7 (Benefits of layer-2 triggers for fast handover)

o =    It was unclear what the main point of this section is = (i.e. what is the standards text)?  I especially found the last senten= ce confusing (“… and that not all the multicast applications co= uld take benefit of it, that functionality could be seen as optional for multicast handover optimization.”)

[Luis>>] We agree on removing this= section.

 

8.=   Section 8 (Security Considerations)

o =    You obviously need to complete this section before WGL= C.

[Luis>>] Agree. We have completed = this section.

 

9.=   Section 10 (Contributors)

o =    Somehow the phrase “.. has largely contributed..= ” does not read well (perhaps just change “largely” to &#= 8220;extensively”).

[Luis>>] Done.

 

10.General: I recall that the authors mentioned th= at they would do some simulations to prove the benefit of this approach vs = the baseline [RFC6224] approach.  I think that will be very useful so that the WG can trade the complexity vs. perfo= rmance benefits of this approach.  I did in general find the complexit= y of even understanding all the different options (reactive vs. proactive, = Flag setting, prevention of unicast traffic delays, etc.) to be a bit daunting.  I had to go back to your PPT pre= sentations from the IETF meetings to piece everything together (as those sl= ides nicely captured the high level flow).  If we had the simulations = then we could justify all the complexity.  Or even better perhaps support fewer options that give the majority of the= benefits?  This to me is a key open issue.

[Luis>>] For the sake of simplicit= y we have included a performance comparison analysis between this proposal = and the base protocol focusing on the delay reduction that this method achieves.

 

 

That’s all.

 

 

/Akbar

 

-----Original Message-----
From: multimob-bounces@ietf.or= g [mailto:multimob-bounces= @ietf.org] On Behalf Of Behcet Sarikaya
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:38 PM
To: multimob@ietf.org
Subject: [multimob] Volunteers to review draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-= 01

 

Hi all,

 

In IETF84, three people volunteered to review

draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-01,

 

Thomas, Akbar and Costas.

 

The volunteers, thanks for volunteering and pleas= e post your reviews

on the list soon.

 

Regards,

 

Behcet

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 --Boundary_(ID_yvM3Tgs2kj6i0Au6J7qQ0Q)-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Oct 22 02:08:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B79321F8C4D; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:08:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XAWEp9URbFhy; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C71421F8BF1; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:08:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121022090806.6938.78743.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:08:06 -0700 Cc: multimob@ietf.org Subject: [multimob] I-D Action: draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-02.txt X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 09:08:08 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multicast Mobility Working Group of the I= ETF. Title : PMIPv6 multicast handover optimization by the Subscripti= on Information Acquisition through the LMA (SIAL) Author(s) : Luis M. Contreras Carlos J. Bernardos Ignacio Soto Filename : draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-02.txt Pages : 42 Date : 2012-10-22 Abstract: This document specifies a multicast handover optimization mechanism for Proxy Mobile IPv6 to accelerate the delivery of multicast traffic to mobile nodes after handovers. The mechanism is based on speeding up the acquisition of mobile nodes' multicast context by the mobile access gateways. To do that, extensions to the current Proxy Mobile IPv6 protocol are proposed. These extensions are not only applicable to the base solution for multicast support in Proxy Mobile IPv6, but they can also be applied to other solutions being developed to avoid the tunnel convergence problem. Furthermore, they are also independent of the role played by the mobile access gateway within the multicast network (either acting as multicast listener discovery proxy or multicast router). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Oct 22 11:07:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B945321F8B66; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:07:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QCiVw4l13uZp; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CF511E80F5; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:07:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121022180703.7551.40147.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:07:03 -0700 Cc: multimob@ietf.org Subject: [multimob] I-D Action: draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-03.txt X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:07:12 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multicast Mobility Working Group of the I= ETF. Title : PMIPv6 multicast handover optimization by the Subscripti= on Information Acquisition through the LMA (SIAL) Author(s) : Luis M. Contreras Carlos J. Bernardos Ignacio Soto Filename : draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-03.txt Pages : 42 Date : 2012-10-22 Abstract: This document specifies a multicast handover optimization mechanism for Proxy Mobile IPv6 to accelerate the delivery of multicast traffic to mobile nodes after handovers. The mechanism is based on speeding up the acquisition of mobile nodes' multicast context by the mobile access gateways. To do that, extensions to the current Proxy Mobile IPv6 protocol are proposed. These extensions are not only applicable to the base solution for multicast support in Proxy Mobile IPv6, but they can also be applied to other solutions being developed to avoid the tunnel convergence problem. Furthermore, they are also independent of the role played by the mobile access gateway within the multicast network (either acting as multicast listener discovery proxy or multicast router). The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-multimob-fast-handover-03 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From sfigueiredo@av.it.pt Mon Oct 22 12:10:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABD011E809C for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:10:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sGufrdeTmfsi for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av.it.pt (mail.av.it.pt [193.136.92.53]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101C921F849D for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [193.136.93.233] (account sfigueiredo@av.it.pt [193.136.93.233] verified) by av.it.pt (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTPSA id 66713764 for multimob@ietf.org; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:10:24 +0100 Message-ID: <50859A22.9050406@av.it.pt> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:10:26 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?U8OpcmdpbyBGaWd1ZWlyZWRv?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121011 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimob@ietf.org References: <20121022185922.7529.40290.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20121022185922.7529.40290.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [multimob] New Version Notification for draft-sfigueiredo-multimob-use-case-dmm-03.txt X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:10:35 -0000 Dear all, We updated our draft on "P Multicast Use Cases and Analysis over Distributed Mobility Management". The major changes are summarized as follows: - added a clear separation between the operation description and the analysis of the pros and cons for each use case (reflecting the comments received in the previous meeting); - we now consider the use cases where multicast router is deployed in MARs; - extended Assumptions section; - added a Table summarizing the provided analysis. You can find the updated draft in the link below: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-sfigueiredo-multimob-use-case-dmm-03.txt We'll appreciate very much your comments and reviews. Best regards, Sérgio On 10/22/2012 07:59 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > A new version of I-D, draft-sfigueiredo-multimob-use-case-dmm-03.txt > has been successfully submitted by Sergio Figueiredo and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Filename: draft-sfigueiredo-multimob-use-case-dmm > Revision: 03 > Title: IP Multicast Use Cases and Analysis over Distributed Mobility Management > Creation date: 2012-10-22 > WG ID: Individual Submission > Number of pages: 18 > URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sfigueiredo-multimob-use-case-dmm-03.txt > Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sfigueiredo-multimob-use-case-dmm > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sfigueiredo-multimob-use-case-dmm-03 > Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-sfigueiredo-multimob-use-case-dmm-03 > > Abstract: > Mobile networks are changing towards distributed mobility management > (DMM), tackling inefficiencies of existing mobility protocols > regarding network management and packet routing. Identifying IP > multicast use cases applicable to DMM is a logical step before > exploring solution spaces. This document describes use cases where IP > multicast is applied in DMM environments, considering two main > deployment options: multicast router or MLD-Proxy deployment at a > Mobility Access Router (MAR). Due to the lack of standard terminology, > we refer to MAR as the entity embedding mobility-related functions, > e.g. providing network access and flow anchoring capabilities. Each > deployment option is thoroughly analyzed regarding its advantages and > disadvantages, and both multicast listener and source mobility > support are considered. > > > > > The IETF Secretariat > From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Oct 22 13:33:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF4C21F8451; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:33:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TLICTLR8tAs4; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730E621F8434; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:33:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121022203316.15909.82915.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:33:16 -0700 Cc: multimob@ietf.org Subject: [multimob] I-D Action: draft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt-02.txt X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 20:33:17 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multicast Mobility Working Group of the I= ETF. Title : Multicast Mobility Routing Optimizations for Proxy Mobil= e IPv6 Author(s) : Juan Carlos Zuniga Luis M. Contreras Carlos J. Bernardos Seil Jeon Younghan Kim Filename : draft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt-02.txt Pages : 30 Date : 2012-10-22 Abstract: The MULTIMOB group has specified a base solution to support IP multicasting in a PMIPv6 domain [RFC6224]. In this document, some enhancements to the base solution are described. These enhancements include the use of a multicast tree mobility anchor as the topological anchor point for multicast traffic, as well as a direct routing option where the MAG can provide access to multicast content in the local network. These enhancements provide benefits such as reducing multicast traffic replication and supporting different PMIPv6 deployment scenarios. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From sarikaya2012@gmail.com Mon Oct 22 14:51:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC0E1F042B for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:51:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hwpe5rOjSRwC for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DACF21F88C1 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 9so5164298iec.31 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:51:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SkItUutdHiujUsBjOuHFw6Vd0nHWC6b0cQpqQWQwv0o=; b=eKwlofZN8e13IJLHwF3DNBkSFU5uRWFfJADfqP0mxWPfM3tAkNIcpMNZaCKBIHWTus lEfZ7nXbliSU4HiPh5iJy4aYsmHBQheJuY4MHdoZdpPYcIhEFUEvxl57JEEOK1WqENDn RDgkGyvgb+BeXLmIjsa+iXWFke4YecCm3rXelAZazz8RL4EogVSCd24mU9SokIoBPvSg pc38ZbhaNikLOzla+nH2V2gNNxHYygJVP8ZLMjmGmHByRRLA0hcz7678jb69RPbWI0OR YZQljYO4g+FrSM1KnYNLO+Hu5+R28/DxJ77ORiTUUvKlzXW45XSKksQ4VqBhpqMDsy+3 jWcA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.173.37 with SMTP id bh5mr10974072igc.45.1350942687908; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.85.26 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 16:51:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Behcet Sarikaya To: multimob@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [multimob] IETF 85 Agenda X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: sarikaya@ieee.org List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:51:30 -0000 Hi all, A draft agenda for Multimob session has been posted. Regards, Behcet From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Oct 22 14:55:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A232A21F847C; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:55:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KSZhLl9YGFxF; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3F021F846B; Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:54:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.34 Message-ID: <20121022215459.9272.3770.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:54:59 -0700 Cc: multimob@ietf.org Subject: [multimob] I-D Action: draft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-source-02.txt X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:55:06 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multicast Mobility Working Group of the I= ETF. Title : Mobile Multicast Sender Support in Proxy Mobile IPv6 (PM= IPv6) Domains Author(s) : Thomas C. Schmidt Shuai Gao Hong-Ke Zhang Matthias Waehlisch Filename : draft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-source-02.txt Pages : 26 Date : 2012-10-22 Abstract: Multicast communication can be enabled in Proxy Mobile IPv6 domains via the Local Mobility Anchors by deploying MLD Proxy functions at Mobile Access Gateways, via a direct traffic distribution within an ISP's access network, or by selective route optimization schemes. This document describes the support of mobile multicast senders in Proxy Mobile IPv6 domains for all three scenarios. Protocol optimizations for synchronizing PMIPv6 with PIM, as well as extended MLD Proxy functions are presented. Mobile sources always remain agnostic of multicast mobility operations. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-source There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-source-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-source-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From cjbc@it.uc3m.es Tue Oct 23 11:31:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D938F11E80EE for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:31:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.492 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.492 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_21=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XHilJDAPY5V0 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp01.uc3m.es (smtp01.uc3m.es [163.117.176.131]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C009711E80DC for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:31:36 -0700 (PDT) X-uc3m-safe: yes Received: from [163.117.139.72] (acorde.it.uc3m.es [163.117.139.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: cjbc@smtp01.uc3m.es) by smtp01.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 016DDCB296C for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:31:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1351017094.27864.43.camel@acorde.it.uc3m.es> From: Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano To: multimob@ietf.org Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:31:34 +0200 Organization: Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-w08BT9ajWsgaF7lvwxAV" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.3-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-6.8.0.1017-19300.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--8.763-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--8.763-7.0-31-1 Subject: [multimob] [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt-02.txt] X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjbc@it.uc3m.es List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:31:38 -0000 --=-w08BT9ajWsgaF7lvwxAV Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 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charset="us-ascii" Sender: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (smtp01.uc3m.es); Mon, 22 Oct 2012 22:33:45 +0200 (CEST) X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.1.0.1224-6.8.0.1017-19296.001 X-TM-AS-Result: No--5.964-7.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--5.964-7.0-31-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Multicast Mobility Working Group of the I= ETF. Title : Multicast Mobility Routing Optimizations for Proxy Mobil= e IPv6 Author(s) : Juan Carlos Zuniga Luis M. Contreras Carlos J. Bernardos Seil Jeon Younghan Kim Filename : draft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-ropt-02.txt Pages : 30 Date : 2012-10-22 Abstract: The MULTIMOB group has specified a base solution to support IP multicasting in a PMIPv6 domain [RFC6224]. In this document, some enhancements to the base solution are described. These enhancements include the use of a multicast tree mobility anchor as the topological anchor point for multicast traffic, as well as a direct routing option where the MAG can provide access to multicast content in the local network. These enhancements provide benefits such as reducing multicast traffic replication and supporting different PMIPv6 deployment scenarios. 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X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:47:46 -0000 Hi all, The latest agenda is posted at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/agenda/agenda-85-multimob Please take a look and let us know if any changes are needed? Regards, Behcet From asaeda@sfc.wide.ad.jp Wed Oct 24 19:11:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FD41F0C4A for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:11:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.096 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.096 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RELAY_IS_203=0.994, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dc3f1fN4rbqv for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.142.130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A07F1F0C3A for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [202.249.37.10]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28D442780EC for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:10:57 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 11:10:58 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20121025.111058.187877044.asaeda@sfc.wide.ad.jp> To: multimob@ietf.org From: Hitoshi Asaeda In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [multimob] IETF 85 Agenda X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 02:11:03 -0000 Hi, Please allocate a 10 to 20 min time slot for the following draft. "Multicast Routing Optimization by PIM-SM with PMIPv6" http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-asaeda-multimob-pmip6-extension-11 This is already -11 version. I'd like to know whether people want "Multicast Routing Optimization by PIM-SM with PMIPv6" or not in this meeting. Comment welcome. Regards, -- Hitoshi Asaeda From sarikaya2012@gmail.com Fri Oct 26 14:07:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: multimob@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D7C21F8666 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:07:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.529 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.529 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UOponAmjhAIB for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651CD21F862B for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 9so4979337iec.31 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:07:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=jelNw40yRSlB2YIKbrAgcLpa4lN/FdoZsDiyP0dteFA=; b=KFMXFPOe/l3KYcspehLQBn0+FzuU/cQ5rC1cXeMaaJioAlR68Wn+ScTNRZKcmwai4E 7Ro1jkfrSGRdNl+i2Y96xRFQNZozeIYPwwgZi+8y+t0cR1czgyUwtZpenOOVpX9LPsoH Mxpr570JFqM2TPyyE8H0Gp0kHjMbJbnkCsS3sFJBpcfhfQwe/w3eJHNOoeBuXkymkKks /m+0myAhO4lmtq3EQGGZVpR95crK5T80iuobFBbt4aMfJRY6WuCvMwX4FhxB/ZZCEFOC pH4kmB9r7yqRQxmOHelfAsrVihOaIE/ShrYlHlIDBAZXLrlCP0Ph+m7yOTrzm5NtKHjd d7qg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.247.136 with SMTP id mc8mr12758058icb.36.1351285639742; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.85.26 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:07:19 -0500 Message-ID: From: Behcet Sarikaya To: multimob@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [multimob] Presentations for IETF 85 X-BeenThere: multimob@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: sarikaya@ieee.org List-Id: Multicast Mobility List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:07:21 -0000 Hi all, It seems like the agenda at http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/agenda/agenda-85-multimob is now stable. It is time to submit the presentations. Please submit your presentation to multimob-chairs@tools.ietf.org Regards, Behcet