From shanna@juniper.net Mon Jul 9 06:02:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9278F11E8087 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 06:02:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DiZzhetk2LLb for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 06:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og110.obsmtp.com (exprod7og110.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.173]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6583B11E8083 for ; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 06:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob110.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKT/rWlHIK7Au7s+0T5uZzTp0U87FuAHHC@postini.com; Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:03:19 PDT Received: from P-CLDFE02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.60) by P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 06:03:04 -0700 Received: from p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.24) by p-cldfe02-hq.jnpr.net (172.24.192.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 06:03:03 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::d0d1:653d:5b91:a123%11]) with mapi; Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:03:03 -0400 From: Stephen Hanna To: "nea@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:03:01 -0400 Thread-Topic: Consensus for Early Allocation of PT-TLS Port Number? 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X-BeenThere: nea@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Endpoint Assessment discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:27:09 -0000 --90e6ba6153b6862f7604c465931b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Yes, I think we should pursue early IANA port allocation for PT-TLS. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB Blue Roof Music/High North Inc http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com Winter 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 Summer PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Stephen Hanna wrote: > The PT-TLS editors have suggested that we apply to IANA > for early allocation of the PT-TLS port number. This > will enable implementers to create interoperable early > implementations of this protocol, since they will know > which port number to use for their implementations. > > RFC 4020 describes the process for early allocation. > The PT-TLS editors and NEA WG chairs believe that doing > early allocation for the PT-TLS port number is a good idea. > We'd like to check consensus in the NEA WG on whether > we should do early allocation. > > So we're doing a consensus check. Please respond to this > email with your views on this question: > > * Should we request early allocation of the PT-TLS > port number? > > A simple Yes or No will suffice. However, discussion is > welcome. > > This consensus check will end in one week, at 9 AM EDT > (1300 GMT) on Monday, July 16. If the consensus is > favorable, we will proceed with early allocation. > If not, the port number will be allocated when the > spec becomes an RFC. > > Thanks, > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Nea mailing list > Nea@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nea > --90e6ba6153b6862f7604c465931b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

Yes, I think we should pursue early IANA port allocation
for = PT-TLS.

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician= / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secr= etary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solution= s WG
Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SG
IETF Designated Expert = - IPP & Printer MIB
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthincmailto:bluer= oofmusic@gmail.com
Winter=A0 579 Park Place=A0 Saline, MI=A0 48176=A0 734-944-0094
Summer= =A0 PO Box 221=A0 Grand Marais, MI 49839=A0 906-494-2434



On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Stephen = Hanna <shanna@juniper.net> wrote:
The PT-TLS editors have suggested that we apply to IANA
for early allocation of the PT-TLS port number. This
will enable implementers to create interoperable early
implementations of this protocol, since they will know
which port number to use for their implementations.

RFC 4020 describes the process for early allocation.
The PT-TLS editors and NEA WG chairs believe that doing
early allocation for the PT-TLS port number is a good idea.
We'd like to check consensus in the NEA WG on whether
we should do early allocation.

So we're doing a consensus check. Please respond to this
email with your views on this question:

* Should we request early allocation of the PT-TLS
=A0 port number?

A simple Yes or No will suffice. However, discussion is
welcome.

This consensus check will end in one week, at 9 AM EDT
(1300 GMT) on Monday, July 16. If the consensus is
favorable, we will proceed with early allocation.
If not, the port number will be allocated when the
spec becomes an RFC.

Thanks,

Steve

_______________________________________________
Nea mailing list
Nea@ietf.org
htt= ps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nea

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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "nea@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Nea] Consensus for Early Allocation of PT-TLS Port Number? X-BeenThere: nea@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Endpoint Assessment discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:05:55 -0000 On 07/16/2012 05:36 PM, Stephen Hanna wrote: > Although there was not much discussion on this topic, > it was all in favor of early allocation. Since there > are clear benefits of early allocation (enabling early > prototyping and implementations of PT-TLS), I declare > that there is WG consensus in favor. > > The WG chairs will (the approval of the Area Directors) > request early allocation of a port number from IANA > for PT-TLS, as called for in RFC 4020. I'm fine with that. Cheers, S. > > Thanks, > > Steve > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stephen Hanna >> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:03 AM >> To: nea@ietf.org >> Subject: Consensus for Early Allocation of PT-TLS Port Number? >> >> The PT-TLS editors have suggested that we apply to IANA >> for early allocation of the PT-TLS port number. This >> will enable implementers to create interoperable early >> implementations of this protocol, since they will know >> which port number to use for their implementations. >> >> RFC 4020 describes the process for early allocation. >> The PT-TLS editors and NEA WG chairs believe that doing >> early allocation for the PT-TLS port number is a good idea. >> We'd like to check consensus in the NEA WG on whether >> we should do early allocation. >> >> So we're doing a consensus check. Please respond to this >> email with your views on this question: >> >> * Should we request early allocation of the PT-TLS >> port number? >> >> A simple Yes or No will suffice. However, discussion is >> welcome. >> >> This consensus check will end in one week, at 9 AM EDT >> (1300 GMT) on Monday, July 16. If the consensus is >> favorable, we will proceed with early allocation. >> If not, the port number will be allocated when the >> spec becomes an RFC. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Nea mailing list > Nea@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nea > > From shanna@juniper.net Mon Jul 16 10:23:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4DC11E823E for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:23:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qD+HWjUPfGgS for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og120.obsmtp.com (exprod7og120.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.18]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018F211E823D for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob120.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUAROTikKHBJcSWtFpLhBewRyTf7rrMU8@postini.com; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:24:33 PDT Received: from p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.25) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:23:40 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::c126:c633:d2dc:8090%11]) with mapi; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:23:14 -0400 From: Stephen Hanna To: Stephen Farrell Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:23:13 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Nea] Consensus for Early Allocation of PT-TLS Port Number? Thread-Index: Ac1jdVtt00PhTusJQGieDopI4608jgAAk1Yg Message-ID: References: <50044A17.6050304@cs.tcd.ie> In-Reply-To: <50044A17.6050304@cs.tcd.ie> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "nea@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Nea] Consensus for Early Allocation of PT-TLS Port Number? X-BeenThere: nea@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Endpoint Assessment discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:23:51 -0000 Great! I'll do it now. Thanks, Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie] > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 1:07 PM > To: Stephen Hanna > Cc: nea@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Nea] Consensus for Early Allocation of PT-TLS Port > Number? >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 07/16/2012 05:36 PM, Stephen Hanna wrote: > > Although there was not much discussion on this topic, > > it was all in favor of early allocation. Since there > > are clear benefits of early allocation (enabling early > > prototyping and implementations of PT-TLS), I declare > > that there is WG consensus in favor. > > > > The WG chairs will (the approval of the Area Directors) > > request early allocation of a port number from IANA > > for PT-TLS, as called for in RFC 4020. >=20 > I'm fine with that. >=20 > Cheers, > S. >=20 > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steve > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Stephen Hanna > >> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:03 AM > >> To: nea@ietf.org > >> Subject: Consensus for Early Allocation of PT-TLS Port Number? > >> > >> The PT-TLS editors have suggested that we apply to IANA > >> for early allocation of the PT-TLS port number. This > >> will enable implementers to create interoperable early > >> implementations of this protocol, since they will know > >> which port number to use for their implementations. > >> > >> RFC 4020 describes the process for early allocation. > >> The PT-TLS editors and NEA WG chairs believe that doing > >> early allocation for the PT-TLS port number is a good idea. > >> We'd like to check consensus in the NEA WG on whether > >> we should do early allocation. > >> > >> So we're doing a consensus check. Please respond to this > >> email with your views on this question: > >> > >> * Should we request early allocation of the PT-TLS > >> port number? > >> > >> A simple Yes or No will suffice. However, discussion is > >> welcome. > >> > >> This consensus check will end in one week, at 9 AM EDT > >> (1300 GMT) on Monday, July 16. If the consensus is > >> favorable, we will proceed with early allocation. > >> If not, the port number will be allocated when the > >> spec becomes an RFC. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nea mailing list > > Nea@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nea > > > > From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Jul 16 15:20:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FEB21F86D3; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:20:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.515 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.515 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.084, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S248srS8Uu-M; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB3B21F86C6; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:20:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.30p3 Message-ID: <20120716222006.14833.70302.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:20:06 -0700 Cc: nea@ietf.org Subject: [Nea] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nea-pt-eap-03.txt X-BeenThere: nea@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Endpoint Assessment discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:20:07 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Network Endpoint Assessment Working Group= of the IETF. Title : PT-EAP: Posture Transport (PT) Protocol For EAP Tunnel M= ethods Author(s) : Nancy Cam-Winget Paul Sangster Filename : draft-ietf-nea-pt-eap-03.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2012-07-16 Abstract: This document specifies PT-EAP, an EAP based Posture Transport (PT) protocol designed to be used only inside a TLS protected tunnel method. The document also describes the intended applicability of PT-EAP. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nea-pt-eap There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nea-pt-eap-03 A diff from previous version is available at: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-nea-pt-eap-03 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From ncamwing@cisco.com Mon Jul 16 15:20:49 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2ED311E8297 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:20:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Nj1rNW4g+Br for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F62611E828C for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:20:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ncamwing@cisco.com; l=3008; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1342477295; x=1343686895; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=HIwZo+32bRRALUoTqy3Je5CSlNWRHGGULlNNEAslb9g=; b=TCM1T0TNH0Rvz3VeYh01bQw31qqo/JDnr1fW5pAxQ6ngxl2CC8Ug4Tkb RMGSXLGSIaXkmNIaakGsT4LVKtlxxoRsu0pJtwoA0xsxFxbSCTPyxBDDE ayFHqNqOJTct4R3a7rWHPVztxZ1vc0FPp+S9uCe2NzVW2VAj3LBAVVvUo g=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAIeSBFCtJV2c/2dsb2JhbABFuVCBB4IgAQEBAwEBAQEPAVsdAQhtCyUBAQQBEiKHZQYLnBmgFQSLVYYyA5U7jiCBZoJfgVc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,597,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="102399963" Received: from rcdn-core-5.cisco.com ([173.37.93.156]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Jul 2012 22:21:35 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com [173.36.12.76]) by rcdn-core-5.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GMLYF1001503 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:21:34 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([169.254.5.178]) by xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com ([173.36.12.76]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:21:34 -0500 From: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" To: Alan DeKok , "nea@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [Nea] Review of draft-ietf-nea-pt-eap-02.txt Thread-Index: Ac1D5asVP70KIL6wTXaXici8Duo5nwfquu0A Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:21:33 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4FCF567D.900@deployingradius.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.1.120420 x-originating-ip: [10.154.14.28] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19042.007 x-tm-as-result: No--48.206600-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <0BC6F05FA668C94E857DB537983C9C05@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Nea] Review of draft-ietf-nea-pt-eap-02.txt X-BeenThere: nea@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Endpoint Assessment discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:20:50 -0000 Hi Alan, Thanks for the review and I've tried to accommodate most of your comments in the -03 version just posted, so please see my responses below: On 6/6/12 6:09 AM, "Alan DeKok" wrote: > > Some minor notes: > >Section 1: > > The PT-EAP protocol > must be protected by an outer EAP TLS-based tunnel to ensure the > exchanged messages are protected from a variety of threats from > hostile intermediaries. > > That should probably be MUST instead of "must". [NCW] Agreed and fixed in latest revision. > > I also suggest adding text saying: > > The encapsulating EAP TLS-based tunnel MUST first authenticate > the user prior to using PT-EAP. > > i.e. using EAP-TLS + PT-EAP might be OK. Using EAP-TTLS with *only* >PT-EAP inside the TLS tunnel should be forbidden. [NCW] There is language in the Security Considerations and noted in Section 5. But as mutual authentication can be achieved also during Tunnel establishment it can be just that (e.g. No inner method)=8A. Can you let me know if there is more language that should be added to address your concern? > > >Section 3.3: > > Type > > TBD > > Suggestion: add a discussion of what the type field means, and what it >is likely to be used for. [NCW] Right, it is the EAP method type, and text has been added. > > > Data > > Variable length data. The length of the Data field in a > particular PT-EAP message may be determined by subtracting the > length of the PT-EAP header fields from the value of the two octet > Length field. > > It's worth saying what the data is expected to be. Right now, >transport of JPGs inside of PT-EAP seems to be allowed. [NCW] Thanks, new text has been added to limit it to PB messages > > >Section 4.2.1: > > In order to protect against NEA assessment message theft, the EAP > tunnel method carrying PT-EAP must provide strong cryptographic > authentication, integrity and confidentiality protection. > > That should probably be MUST instead of "must". [NCW] Done. > > >Section 4.2.3: > > The > strong integrity protections (hashing) offered by EAP-TTLS allows the > PT-EAP message recipients to detect message alterations by other > types of network based adversaries. > > Is "hashing" a method of strong integrity protection? Or is it just >using the TLS message integrity methods? [NCW] It is really the EAP Tunnel base protection, so I've updated text to reflect this. > >Section 7: > > There is no IANA considerations for the "Type" field. Since it is >being defined here, I presume there will be an IANA "PT-EAP Type" >registry. > > It would be good to add a section (7.2) describing this registry. [NCW] I've updated the PT-EAP method Type to reflect this in Section 7 as well. > > Alan DeKok. > >_______________________________________________ >Nea mailing list >Nea@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nea From ncamwing@cisco.com Mon Jul 16 15:23:52 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC56411E82F3; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:23:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DEcQynCHmzh5; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68CF11E82BB; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:23:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ncamwing@cisco.com; l=1860; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1342477478; x=1343687078; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=FiENO7MsVxKUULA/3+PJ7e1SqWfBSsXqEYY4cjjZH3w=; b=KV6yhABGzL0VtpFOrs/cBHpcTwY6fqXfz+pTA4zFv0YGMzWeWPfkBHSt xPY8jtMarHtCKtvli3sMmOhHOcNqmIv9cbASMpCtpXJDD4ZZGqXjhQSuU TT2K8cgGJERahvAkyrFC70jDm5QFjyg6Ju98/M6dvcW/+iUS+xcCRNLVI I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAB+UBFCtJXG+/2dsb2JhbABFDrlCgQeCIgEEAQEBDwEnNAsSAQg2NwslAQEEAQ0FIodrC5wWoBUEkgcDlTuOIIFmgiY5gVgj X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,597,1336348800"; d="scan'208";a="102431297" Received: from rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com ([173.37.113.190]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Jul 2012 22:24:37 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com [173.36.12.84]) by rcdn-core2-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GMOb40019919 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:24:37 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([169.254.5.178]) by xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com ([173.36.12.84]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:24:37 -0500 From: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" To: Sam Hartman , "Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)" Thread-Topic: [Emu] A review Re: [Nea] I-D Action:draft-ietf-nea-pt-eap-02.txt Thread-Index: Ac1EreMkT97p5sCYR0SslYIFdX3xvQe4yAgA Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:24:36 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.1.120420 x-originating-ip: [10.154.14.28] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19042.007 x-tm-as-result: No--38.167100-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <74B9EA7406605F46BDAF34259013D78E@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "nea@ietf.org" , "emu@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Nea] [Emu] A review Re: I-D Action:draft-ietf-nea-pt-eap-02.txt X-BeenThere: nea@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Endpoint Assessment discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:23:52 -0000 Hi Joe and Sam, I've updated the PT-EAP draft to -03 version and included a new paragraph in section 3.4 to read: Note that tls-unique, as opposed to invoking a mutual cryptographic binding, is used as there is no keying material being generated by PT-EAP (the method is defined to facilitate the transport of posture data and is not an authentication method). However, the NEA Client may host an EMA which can be used as the means to cryptographically bind the tls-unique content that may be validated by the Posture Validator interfacing with the EAP Server. The binding of the tls-unique to the client authentication prevents the client's message from being used in another context. This prevents a poorly configured client from unintentionally compromising the NEA system. Strong mutual authentication of the NEA server and client is still REQUIRED to prevent the disclosure of possibly sensitive NEA client information to attacker. To address the comments below. Can you please review the updated draft and let me know if that is sufficient? Thanks, Nancy. On 6/7/12 6:02 AM, "Sam Hartman" wrote: >>>>>> "Joe" =3D=3D Joe Salowey writes: > > Joe> So, is your concern with using only MSK crypto binding with an >inner EAP authentication method used to authenticate an >unauthenticated/poorly authenticated tunnel or is it more specific to the >nea-pt-eap method? > Joe> For the first concern it may be sufficient to discuss the issue >in the security considerations. > >Sounds good to me and that is my concern. > >I see no reason EAP-PT needs more text than what we did for the cb >draft. >_______________________________________________ >Emu mailing list >Emu@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emu From ncamwing@cisco.com Mon Jul 16 15:43:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CC021F867F for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:43:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.496 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.496 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.102, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NX2WNbsmuaz0 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 176FF21F8674 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ncamwing@cisco.com; l=1222; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1342478640; x=1343688240; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=2zcgFkZ+ZQQFK3yI3JfYDy0EDPd7pr5pSl0auDOwBQ8=; b=PG/JzkZgFmOPW3+ct1U3rK8tZ1Vlzfn+zau1o/kx/OOSltS56HRkzHHQ s1Xw5MzYSuGaRVE8/FBVtFw8axHjkscTOcySwb2y+AFR8ubCYaWFYkZuq GREs0BN2LXcKh9iOTq2mhyUduEuGlE99NI8RitFRSypjHhIIFsY1adX/V M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAGKYBFCtJXG//2dsb2JhbABFgkq3B4EHghcQEgF4AQsBdCcENYdrmwCBKKAekgcDlTuOIIFmgl8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,597,1336348800"; d="scan'208,217";a="102401467" Received: from rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com ([173.37.113.191]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Jul 2012 22:43:59 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com [173.37.183.88]) by rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q6GMhxZq004792 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:43:59 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([169.254.5.178]) by xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com ([173.37.183.88]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:43:59 -0500 From: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" To: "nea@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: PT-EAP v03 posted Thread-Index: AQHNY6R8RmvcTIdUOUiao0EYFd/jug== Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:43:58 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.1.120420 x-originating-ip: [10.154.14.28] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19042.007 x-tm-as-result: No--25.258600-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CC29E73DE695ncamwingciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Nea] PT-EAP v03 posted X-BeenThere: nea@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Endpoint Assessment discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:43:16 -0000 --_000_CC29E73DE695ncamwingciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I've just posted draft-ietf-nea-pt-eap-03 updating text based on Sujing Zho= u, Sam Hartman and Alan DeKok's feedback; these comments were posted as a result of the request for review to the EMU= WG. 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Hi,

I've just posted draft-ietf-nea-pt-eap-03 updating text based on = Sujing Zhou, Sam Hartman and Alan DeKok's feedback;
these comments were posted as a result of the request for review to th= e EMU WG.  

Thanks, Nancy.
--_000_CC29E73DE695ncamwingciscocom_-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Jul 16 16:29:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FB711E828C; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:29:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.526 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.526 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.073, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nt4S8qHhaHgi; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFBE11E8256; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:29:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.30p3 Message-ID: <20120716232921.21202.46555.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 16:29:21 -0700 Cc: nea@ietf.org Subject: [Nea] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06.txt X-BeenThere: nea@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Endpoint Assessment discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:29:22 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Network Endpoint Assessment Working Group= of the IETF. Title : PT-TLS: A TCP-based Posture Transport (PT) Protocol Author(s) : Paul Sangster Nancy Cam-Winget Joseph Salowey Filename : draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06.txt Pages : 44 Date : 2012-07-16 Abstract: This document specifies PT-TLS, a TCP-based Posture Transport (PT) protocol. The PT-TLS protocol carries the Network Endpoint Assessment (NEA) message exchange under the protection of a Transport Layer Security (TLS) secured tunnel. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06 A diff from previous version is available at: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie Fri Jul 20 13:57:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAA121F85E4 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:57:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.512 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.512 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.087, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Og3lk-p8u9tW for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scss.tcd.ie (hermes.scss.tcd.ie [IPv6:2001:770:10:200:889f:cdff:fe8d:ccd2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D0521F8554 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 13:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6F717148B for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:58:18 +0100 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:user-agent:from:date:message-id:received :received:x-virus-scanned; s=cs; t=1342817898; bh=ym2uAvgUqpJbk0 7+N5E8ey5Oqsce5rPZH3etULe8UlU=; b=1IL2ArUIl4OlYhw1kO1KTQS+2lWg4k oLA0VxWgjzMaomzghEOzwxEtfhXGiMa3bChzZmXqJzAi+9ibaLYLyJj2vYQ2YsuH NV1RHy4qkR5taIuT51tg2rBFu+eq5bcBeMsjuNIF0GqYe/KNn3fHOmgPGk1NYMPX SJJjosMFYHrg+xdioB9ypS/4lOxjabwwI3av5q9hXNyH8A9RW4pideWkN6cr8MpC gcOAPfOOvL4dRly8M2Xbc9ODieeRpPYWLi7ykiLgYeSOy8dQCUCM62jF7jEHVj8N HHrWnWipQhKpLH3Zkiy9zNv8egPrlvAJuC636MVrhnPpSs3tMSrRXyuQ== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at scss.tcd.ie Received: from scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with ESMTP id sDNVeA6FFBgv for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:58:18 +0100 (IST) Received: from [10.87.48.3] (unknown [86.41.13.69]) by smtp.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 27664171475 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:58:18 +0100 (IST) Message-ID: <5009C669.3040406@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:58:17 +0100 From: Stephen Farrell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nea@ietf.org References: <20120716232921.21202.46555.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20120716232921.21202.46555.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Nea] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06.txt X-BeenThere: nea@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Endpoint Assessment discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 20:57:23 -0000 Thanks folks for taking the reviews into account. I've put this on the Aug 30th telechat, since we've the IETF meeting and my vacation in the meantime. If doing it two weeks earlier helps a lot let me know and I can put it on for Aug 16th. That does give time to get the port sorted though. Cheers, S On 07/17/2012 12:29 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Network Endpoint Assessment Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : PT-TLS: A TCP-based Posture Transport (PT) Protocol > Author(s) : Paul Sangster > Nancy Cam-Winget > Joseph Salowey > Filename : draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06.txt > Pages : 44 > Date : 2012-07-16 > > Abstract: > This document specifies PT-TLS, a TCP-based Posture Transport (PT) > protocol. The PT-TLS protocol carries the Network Endpoint > Assessment (NEA) message exchange under the protection of a > Transport Layer Security (TLS) secured tunnel. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06 > > A diff from previous version is available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Nea mailing list > Nea@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nea > > From shanna@juniper.net Fri Jul 20 14:23:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB12611E809C for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:23:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1D0O5lBUbbiI for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og105.obsmtp.com (exprod7og105.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.163]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4B711E808D for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob105.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUAnMccshJ+q3KPEsNFhmeSFYo72XiOFd@postini.com; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:24:04 PDT Received: from P-CLDFE01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.59) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:23:53 -0700 Received: from p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.25) by p-cldfe01-hq.jnpr.net (172.24.192.59) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 14:23:53 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::c126:c633:d2dc:8090%11]) with mapi; Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:23:52 -0400 From: Stephen Hanna To: Stephen Farrell , "nea@ietf.org" Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:23:51 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Nea] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06.txt Thread-Index: Ac1mumkmo+L9vyQISi+gRrcGJDll5QAA3wbw Message-ID: References: <20120716232921.21202.46555.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5009C669.3040406@cs.tcd.ie> In-Reply-To: <5009C669.3040406@cs.tcd.ie> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Nea] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06.txt X-BeenThere: nea@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Endpoint Assessment discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 21:23:10 -0000 Thanks, Stephen. That sounds great! Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: nea-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:nea-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Stephen Farrell > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 4:58 PM > To: nea@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Nea] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06.txt >=20 >=20 > Thanks folks for taking the reviews into account. >=20 > I've put this on the Aug 30th telechat, since we've > the IETF meeting and my vacation in the meantime. > If doing it two weeks earlier helps a lot let me > know and I can put it on for Aug 16th. >=20 > That does give time to get the port sorted though. >=20 > Cheers, > S >=20 > On 07/17/2012 12:29 AM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > This draft is a work item of the Network Endpoint Assessment Working > Group of the IETF. > > > > Title : PT-TLS: A TCP-based Posture Transport (PT) > Protocol > > Author(s) : Paul Sangster > > Nancy Cam-Winget > > Joseph Salowey > > Filename : draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06.txt > > Pages : 44 > > Date : 2012-07-16 > > > > Abstract: > > This document specifies PT-TLS, a TCP-based Posture Transport (PT) > > protocol. The PT-TLS protocol carries the Network Endpoint > > Assessment (NEA) message exchange under the protection of a > > Transport Layer Security (TLS) secured tunnel. > > > > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls > > > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06 > > > > A diff from previous version is available at: > > http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-06 > > > > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nea mailing list > > Nea@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nea > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Nea mailing list > Nea@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nea From shanna@juniper.net Mon Jul 30 18:37:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nea@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580B421F84A7 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:37:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -107.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-107.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 82nx2yd-u2jD for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og111.obsmtp.com (exprod7og111.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.175]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263EF21F843E for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob111.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUBc2quzH4FS5Q8H3y/v+4AewVm1CKyM+@postini.com; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:37:43 PDT Received: from p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.25) by P-EMHUB01-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:36:09 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::c126:c633:d2dc:8090%11]) with mapi; Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:36:07 -0400 From: Stephen Hanna To: "nea@ietf.org" Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 21:36:07 -0400 Thread-Topic: [sacm] Agenda and Remote Participation Info for the SACM Side Meeting Thread-Index: AQHNbrzb/GXZquUOeEe++AxCoQoboQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [Nea] Fwd: [sacm] Agenda and Remote Participation Info for the SACM Side Meeting X-BeenThere: nea@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Endpoint Assessment discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 01:37:44 -0000 The SACM (Security Automation and Continuous Monitoring) side meeting descr= ibed in the attached email may be of interest to NEA participants. Remote p= articipation is possible, as you will see. Thanks, Steve Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone ----- Forwarded message ----- From: "Waltermire, David A." To: "sacm@ietf.org" Subject: [sacm] Agenda and Remote Participation Info for the SACM Side Meet= ing Date: Mon, Jul 30, 2012 6:16 pm As a reminder, the Security Automation and Continuous Monitoring (SACM) eff= ort is going to have a Side meeting at the IETF 84 meeting in Vancouver lat= er this week. A description of the meeting, the date/time, web meeting det= ails, and the agenda for the meeting follow. SACM Side Meeting IETF 84 Security Automation and Continuous Monitoring =96 SACM (pronounced as Sack-= em) Side Meeting Chairs: David Waltermire, Kent Landfield Description: A side meeting to continue the discussions around security aut= omation and continuous monitoring working group development efforts. In thi= s meeting we will be reviewing the Use Case document and then focusing on a= draft charter for the potential working group. Here are the meeting specifics: Date: Thursday, August 2, 2012 Time: 18:30 =96 20:00 PDT Room: Plaza C Thanks to Nancy Cam-Winget for organizing the webex. See conference call an= d web meeting details below. Agenda: * Agenda Bashing * Status of work since last IETF meeting * Internet Draft Discussions to: - support the charter/use cases - other potential future drafts * Discuss draft WG Charter Current Drafts: - http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-waltermire-sacm-use-cases-01.txt - draft-wa= ltermire-sacm-use-cases-01 - Analysis of Security Automation and Continuous= Monitoring (SACM) Use Cases - http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-waltermire-content-repository-00.txt - draf= t-waltermire-content-repository-00 - Automated XML Content Data Exchange an= d Management ________________________________________ From: Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) [ncamwing@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:05 PM To: Moriarty, Kathleen Subject: FW: (Forward to attendees) Meeting invitation: SACM BOF From: Nancy Cam-Winget > Reply-To: "ncamwing@cisco.com" > Date: Monday, July 30, 2012 5:04 PM To: "ncamwing@cisco.com" > Subject: (Forward to attendees) Meeting invitation: SACM BOF **** You can forward this email invitation to attendees **** Hello , Nancy Cam-Winget invites you to attend this online meeting. 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