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>
>
>As far as admission control is concerned, I don't think we have to change
>anything in DIAMETER for host-AR authentication, or for MR-AR
>authentication. Accounting is a different story.. NEMO might move from
>cheaper access network to a more expensive access network. NEMO
>does not have to authenticate the hosts again, but does it want to
>increase the rates that are applied to the hosts? Does it want to inform
>them?
>  
>
It seems that AAA can normally not handle these types of changes but 
there is a draft reflecting from the current practice implemented in 
RADIUS servers that allows dynamic changes to a user session 
(draft-chiba-radius). So maybe we can assume that AAA has this capability.

  We also need to identify where NAS can be placed, but I am not sure if 
MR or HA would be better?


Regards,
--behcet



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                            CALL FOR PAPERS
                                   
                             MobiCom 2003
              The Ninth Annual International Conference
                  on Mobile Computing and Networking
                                   
                        September 14-19, 2003
                      San Diego, California, USA
                http://www.sigmobile.org/mobicom/2003/
                                   
                      Sponsored by ACM SIGMOBILE

ACM MobiCom 2003, the Ninth Annual International Conference on Mobile
Computing and Networking, is the ninth in a series of annual conferences
sponsored by ACM SIGMOBILE dedicated to addressing the challenges in the
areas of mobile computing and wireless and mobile networking.  The MobiCom
conference series serves as the premier international forum addressing
networks, systems, algorithms, and applications that support the symbiosis
of mobile computers and wireless networks.  MobiCom is a highly selective,
single-track conference focusing on all issues in mobile computing and
wireless and mobile networking at the link layer and above.  MobiCom 2003
will be held September 14-19, 2003, at the Westin Horton Plaza Hotel in
beautiful, sunny San Diego, California.

PAPERS: Authors are invited to submit full papers presenting new research
related to the theory or practice of mobile computing and networking.  All
submissions must describe original research, not published or currently
under review for another conference or journal.  Areas of interest include,
but are not limited to:

 - Applications and computing services supporting mobile users
 - Architectures, protocols, and algorithms to cope with mobility,
   limited bandwidth, or intermittent connectivity
 - Database and data management issues in mobile computing
 - Operating system and middleware support for mobile computing
   and networking
 - Distributed systems aspects of mobile computing
 - New mobile and wireless applications
 - Integration and interworking of wired and wireless networks
 - Performance of mobile and wireless networks and systems
 - Location-dependent applications and protocols
 - Security and privacy of mobile/wireless systems
 - Mobile ad hoc and sensor networks
 - Wireless multimedia systems
 - Algorithms and protocols for power management and control 
 - Service creation and management environments for mobile/wireless systems 

The program committee will referee all papers, and accepted papers will be
published in the conference proceedings.  Papers of particular merit will
be proposed for publication in the ACM/Kluwer Wireless Networks (WINET)
and Mobile Networks and Applications (MONET) journals.

CHALLENGES PAPERS: The conference also solicits short papers (maximum of
8 pages) that challenge the mobile computing community with revolutionary
new technologies or visionary applications.  Such papers should provide
stimulating ideas or grand visions that may open up exciting avenues of
far-reaching future research; descriptions of new products or simple
evolution of existing work are not appropriate as Challenges Papers.
Challenges Papers will be reviewed and should be submitted using the
normal submission procedure but must be clearly identified as intended
as Challenges Papers.

SUBMISSION INSTRUCTIONS: All paper submissions will be handled
electronically.  Authors should prepare a Portable Document Format (PDF)
or PostScript version of their full paper.  Papers must be no longer than
15 pages (8 pages for Challenges submissions), in font size no smaller than
10 points, and must fit properly on US "Letter"-sized paper (8.5x11 inches)
with reasonable margins.  Detailed instructions on the paper submission
procedure and format will be available on the conference web pages.  The
paper submission deadline for all papers is March 5, 2003.

All submitted papers will be judged based on their quality through
double-blind reviewing, where the identities of the authors are withheld
from the reviewers.  Authors' names must not appear in the paper or in the
PostScript or PDF file.  Submitted papers (or substantially similar papers)
must not be currently under review for any other publication.  Please
direct any questions about the paper submission process to the Program
Co-Chairs at mobicom_pcchairs@acm.org.

TUTORIALS: Proposals for tutorials are solicited.  Evaluation of tutorial
proposals will be based on the expertise and experience of the instructors,
and on the relevance of the subject matter.  Potential instructors are
requested to submit a tutorial proposal of at most 5 pages, including a
biographical sketch, to the Tutorial Co-Chairs by April 7, 2003.

PANELS: Panels are solicited that examine innovative, controversial,
or otherwise provocative issues of interest.  Panel proposals should
not exceed 3 pages, including biographical sketches of the panelists.
Potential panel organizers should contact the Panel Co-Chairs by
April 21, 2003.

RESEARCH DEMOS AND EXHIBITS: Proposals for research demos are solicited.
Proposals should not exceed 3 pages and should include a description of the
demo and equipment to be used.  Send proposals to the Research Demo Chair
by July 26, 2003.  We are also planning an Expo featuring exhibits of the
latest mobile computing products and services.

BEST STUDENT PAPER AWARD: Papers with a student as a primary author will be
considered for the Best Student Paper award, with a cash award of $1000
USD.  Students must indicate with their submission that they would like to
be considered for this award.

IMPORTANT DATES:    Paper submissions due:        March 5, 2003
                    Notification of acceptance:   June 16, 2003
                    Camera-ready version due:     July 18, 2003

GENERAL CHAIR:      David B. Johnson
                    Rice University
                    dbj@cs.rice.edu

PROGRAM CO-CHAIRS:  Anthony D. Joseph
                    University of California, Berkeley
                    adj@eecs.berkeley.edu

                    Nitin H. Vaidya
                    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign  
                    nhv@uiuc.edu

FOR MORE INFORMATION: Please contact the General Chair or Program
Co-Chairs for more information.  For information on ACM SIGMOBILE and the
MobiCom series of conferences, see http://www.sigmobile.org/ or contact
mobicom_info@acm.org.




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Call for Papers - IP Mobility 2003
IEEE VTC Symposium on IP Mobility
October 4-9, 2003 Orlando, FL, USA

in Conjunction with IEEE VTC Fall 2003
Submission Deadline: February 15, 2003

Scope
=====
Mobility support in IP network has been an area of active research and 
development. The impacts of mobility and wireless medium at all layers 
of Internet architecture have generated wide range of interest in the 
research community. IETF has been working on standardizing protocols for 
inter-domain and intra-domain mobility, context transfer, routing for 
network mobility and ad-hoc networks. This symposium is aimed at 
providing researchers and practitioners a forum for presenting their 
research at all layers of Internet architecture and sharing experiences. 
It will provide a unique opportunity to people from academia and 
industry to exchange their ideas on short-term and long-term research 
issues. The theme of this symposium is **Support for Network Mobility**. 
The outcome of the symposium is expected to present a view on how close 
to reality is IP Mobility and set a direction for research to deal with 
emerging issues. The papers must discuss issues and solutions related to 
support for wireless medium and mobility in IP network. The symposium 
solicits papers related to but not limited to the following areas:   

* Routing for host (e.g. terminals) and network (e.g. trains, buses) 
mobility, protocols and performance
* New approaches to wide-area and local mobility
* Quality of Service models, resource management, and provisioning
* Traffic Engineering in mobile wireless IP access networks
* Transport protocol design for mobile wireless networks
* Security including security threat models, threat analysis and their 
impact on routing
* Application level protocol design and performance
* Mobile and wireless applications, their service requirements and 
performance
* Content delivery support in IP network for mobile users
* Multicasting for mobile wireless services
* Emerging network architectures (e.g. multi-hop ad-hoc network, sensor 
network)
* Internetworking of different network types (e.g. ad-hoc to cellular, 
wireless LAN to cellular)
* Inter-vehicular network architecture
* Mobile wireless IP access network deployment and management

Posters are also solicited on the projects related to the symposium theme.

Submission Instructions
=======================
Authors MUST submit an extended abstract (up to 2 pages) through the 
EDAS web site (http://www.edas.info/), together with a short abstract 
(approximately 150 words) in the EDAS web site form. Please note that 
the potential authors should create your own account in the EDAS web 
site (http://www.edas.info/) before submitting paper(s). Although either 
MS Word or PDF file format is acceptable when submitting the extended 
abstracts, it is strongly suggested that authors should submit papers 
using PDF format. The submission(s) should include complete contacting 
information of the author(s), such as the name, mailing address, 
telephone and fax numbers, and email address. All submitted papers are 
subject to peer review. Submissions can also be made using the links of 
call for technical papers in the conference web site: 
http://www.vtc2003.org/.

Important Dates
Extended Abstract Due:  February 15, 2003
Acceptance Notification:  April 15, 2003
Camera Ready Copy of Full Paper Due:  July 15, 2003
Symposium Date:  October 4, 2003

Organization
============

Program Co-Chairs:

Muhammad Jaseemuddin (jaseem@ee.ryerson.ca)
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering
Ryerson University
Toronto, Canada

Hongyi Li (hyli@nortelnetworks.com)
Wireless Technology Lab
Nortel Networks
Ottawa, Canada

Publicity Co-Chair:

Junaid Zubairi (junaid.zubairi@fredonia.edu)
Department of Mathematics and Computer Science
SUNY at Fredonia
Fredonia, NY, USA

Technical Program Committee
===========================
* Ahmed Helmy (USC)
* Yasser Rasheed (Intel)
* Raouf Boutaba (University of Waterloo)
* Sajal Das (The University of Texas at Arlington)
* Haseeb Akhtar (inCode Telecom group, CA)
* Lars Wolf (TU Braunschweig, Germany)
* Samir R. Das (SUNY at Stony Brook)
* Thiery Ernst (Wide, Keio U Japan)
* Abdelsalam Helal (U of Florida, Gainesville)




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Dear Chairs,

I just received an announcement from IETF of draft agenda and couldn't
find about NEMO WG. Are we going to meet in San Francisco?

Regards,
Inkyu


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> I just received an announcement from IETF of draft agenda and couldn't
> find about NEMO WG. Are we going to meet in San Francisco?

Dear Inkyu, all,

There are no reasons why we wouldn't meet. The IETF agenda scheduling
has just started; we haven't yet asked for a slot, However, I think we
first need to know how much time we need. This depends on the
discussion on this list, the agenda, and the draft that we will see,
etc.

The mailing list has been rather silent over the last 5 weeks. I guess
(and hope) we will see more activity in the next weeks. I've myself
been silent, but I've been working on the requirements meanwhile. In
December, we had some sort of agreement between requirement drafts
authors that I would merge all the drafts in one. This WG requirement
document is almost ready and will be posted on this list probably by
the end of next week.

We are now waiting for contributions for the following milestones
(would be nice to see some drafts).

Priority:
- threat analysis
- discussion on the Basic NEMO support solutions

Less important, but important anyway:
- analysis of the solution space for route optimization (i.e. all
  potential approaches like routing protocols, not only MIP-based
  approaches)


Thierry.






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Thierry Ernst wrote:

>
>Dear Inkyu, all,
>
>There are no reasons why we wouldn't meet. The IETF agenda scheduling
>has just started; we haven't yet asked for a slot, However, I think we
>first need to know how much time we need. This depends on the
>discussion on this list, the agenda, and the draft that we will see,
>etc.
>
>The mailing list has been rather silent over the last 5 weeks. I guess
>(and hope) we will see more activity in the next weeks. I've myself
>been silent, but I've been working on the requirements meanwhile. In
>December, we had some sort of agreement between requirement drafts
>authors that I would merge all the drafts in one. This WG requirement
>document is almost ready and will be posted on this list probably by
>the end of next week.
>  
>
I did not know this but I support it, it is a good step in the right 
direction.

>We are now waiting for contributions for the following milestones
>(would be nice to see some drafts).
>
>Priority:
>- threat analysis
>- discussion on the Basic NEMO support solutions
>
>Less important, but important anyway:
>- analysis of the solution space for route optimization (i.e. all
>  potential approaches like routing protocols, not only MIP-based
>  approaches)
>
>
>Thierry.
>  
>
Yes definitely a meeting in San Francisco.
BR,
-- 
Behcet 



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Dear Inkyu, all,

There are no reasons why we wouldn't meet. The IETF agenda scheduling
has just started; we haven't yet asked for a slot, However, I think we
first need to know how much time we need. This depends on the
discussion on this list, the agenda, and the draft that we will see,
etc.

The mailing list has been rather silent over the last 5 weeks. I guess
(and hope) we will see more activity in the next weeks. I've myself
been silent, but I've been working on the requirements meanwhile. In
December, we had some sort of agreement between requirement drafts
authors that I would merge all the drafts in one. This WG requirement
document is almost ready and will be posted on this list probably by
the end of next week.
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I did not know this but I support it, it is a good step in the right direction.<br>
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  <pre wrap="">
We are now waiting for contributions for the following milestones
(would be nice to see some drafts).

Priority:
- threat analysis
- discussion on the Basic NEMO support solutions

Less important, but important anyway:
- analysis of the solution space for route optimization (i.e. all
  potential approaches like routing protocols, not only MIP-based
  approaches)


Thierry.
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BR,
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Behcet </pre>
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