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From: "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com>
To: William Lupton <wlupton@broadband-forum.org>
CC: "netconf@ietf.org" <netconf@ietf.org>, "alex@clemm.org" <alex@clemm.org>
Thread-Topic: [netconf] YANG Push drafts comments
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Thanks. No more questions or comments. Cheers, W.

On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 17:18, Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com> wrote:

> Thanks William.   And some more thoughts back to you (and one to Alex)...
>
>
>
> *From:* William Lupton, January 30, 2019 4:54 AM
>
> Thanks Eric. Please see some follow-ups below (I've removed items where I
> have no further comment). Cheers, W.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 20:31, Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com> wrote:
>
> Hi William,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the interest, thoughts in-line...
>
>
>
> *From:* netconf <netconf-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *William Lupton
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2019 6:41 AM
> *To:* netconf@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [netconf] YANG Push drafts comments
>
>
>
> 1.      General:
>
> 1.      Why is the subscription id optional? Without it, will the
> receiver always be able to tell how to handle an event message?
>
> I assume you are referring to the pushed notification messages carrying
> event records.  The RFC-5277 one way notification doesn=E2=80=99t support=
 a
> subscription-id object in its current event schema, so we can=E2=80=99t e=
mbed this
> object for subscribed-notifications.  This is one reason that
> draft-ietf-netconf-notification-messages was adopted.  For YANG push, we =
do
> have a subscription-id in the notification definition, which is then
> carried within the RFC-5277 one-way notification.
>
>
>
> I would expect this question to arise in the minds of many readers. A not=
e
> might be useful?
>
>
>
> <Eric>   Notes on this topic were included in earlier versions of the
> document (e.g., version 10).   However other reviewers asked to remove
> these notes as they weren=E2=80=99t explicitly needed for this specificat=
ion.    In
> the end, the work on draft-ietf-netconf-notification-messages will restar=
t
> after we get done these drafts, and hopefully will drive text back to thi=
s
> document to cover this concern.
>
>
>
> 2.      draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications:
>
>
>
> 3.      Event record:
>
> 1.      So does the "event record" term apply to all the drafts? If so,
> does "event" apply to all the drafts? (This note is in the context of a
> later note about the fact that "event stream" appears to be specific to
> this draft.)
>
> Subscribing to an event stream is different than a subscribing to a
> datastore. [...]
>
>
>
> This was a terminology comment. I felt that it wasn't always clear which
> terms were generic and would apply to all drafts. "event record", "event"
> and "event stream" caused me particular problems. It was just a comment..=
.
> if people don't think there's a need for clarification (or greater rigor =
in
> the use of terms) then that's fine.
>
>
>
> <Eric>  The original =E2=80=9Cevent=E2=80=9D came from RFC-5277.   But RF=
C-5277 didn=E2=80=99t
> have a separate term for the entity against which filter was applied (i.e=
.,
> an event record).  We also needed to tweak the definition of =E2=80=9Ceve=
nt stream=E2=80=9D
> from the original RFC-5277 =E2=80=9Cstream=E2=80=9D.  This was needed bec=
ause the original
> definition was NETCONF specific.
>
>
>
> With that as a starting point, we then had terminology established where
> any event could be documented via an event record, and placed on an event
> stream.  This includes a populating an event stream with the set of
> notifications coming from a separate YANG push subscription.  Event recor=
ds
> generated this way would look 100% identical what would come from origina=
l
> YANG Push subscription.  This was not accidental.  And as a result it
> becomes possible for a publisher implementation to internally populate an
> event stream through the under-the-covers use of YANG push software.
>
>
>
> Based on this, the terminology was constructed not to exclude the
> possibility that a push update could be an event record.   But it was fel=
t
> these were internal publisher complexities on corner cases.  And getting =
to
> these details might confuse the casual reader.   So as a result, we simpl=
y
> avoided the use of =E2=80=98event records=E2=80=99  within YANG Push.  I =
guess this is a
> long way of saying that I hope the current text is sufficient.
>
>
>
> 4.      Event stream:
>
> 1.      Having now read most of the YANG Push draft, I realize that
> "Event streams" are a legacy thing and are not used by YANG Push. This
> could be made clear. Otherwise it looks like these are a base concept tha=
t
> will be built on.
>
> I think event streams are useful.  I don=E2=80=99t consider them legacy.
>
>
>
> I didn't mean "legacy" pejoratively. Reading the draft I was thinking "Ah=
,
> event streams are a core concept that will be leveraged by the other
> drafts". So I was surprised to discover that YANG Push doesn't use them.
> Assuming that I'm correct here, I think that a note (either here or in YA=
NG
> Push) could be helpful.
>
>
>
> <Eric> If we do this, the right place would be YANG Push.  I will leave
> the call on this to Alex. (cc=E2=80=99ed)
>
>
>
> 3.      So referring to them as sets of Events (rather than sets of Event
> streams) seems inaccurate.
>
> I don=E2=80=99t see any text on either sets of events, or sets of event s=
treams.
>
>
>
> Sorry, part of this got lost in translation. I intended to refer to the
> fact that:
>
>    - Event stream is defined (1.2) as "A continuous, chronologically
>    ordered set of events..."
>    - And then later (2.1) it seems to be suggested that an event stream
>    is a set of event records (rather than a set of events)
>
> (But re-reading it just now, I'm not sure whether it really says this! I
> also note that you commented on this point later. So we can drop this one=
.)
>
>
>
> 5.      Notification message:
>
> 1.      I don't find "The time the event was generated by the event
> source" quite clear. Is it the time at which the change occurred or was
> detected (event occurrence time), or the time at which the message was
> created? Probably the former?
>
> I can=E2=80=99t find the exact text quote:  "The time the event was gener=
ated by
> the event source" .   Where is this?
>
>
>
> Sorry. The actual text is from RFC 5277, describing eventTime. Obviously
> I'm not suggesting that RFC 5277 be changed!
>
>
>
> <Eric>  Yes, I never did like that text from RFC-5277.   I checked into
> why RFC-5277 was written this way several years a while ago.   Basically
> different implementations handled this in different ways, and they wanted
> text which wouldn=E2=80=99t preclude different implementations.
>
>
>
> Eric
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks. No more questions or comments. Cheers, W.</div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 1=
 Feb 2019 at 17:18, Eric Voit (evoit) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:evoit@cisco.com=
">evoit@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
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<div class=3D"gmail-m_1532641109160430866WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks William.=C2=A0=C2=A0 And some more thoughts b=
ack to you (and one to Alex)...<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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eft:1.5pt solid blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt">
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top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> William Lupton, January 30, 2019 4:54 A=
M<br>
<br>
<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks Eric. Please see some follow-ups below (I&#39=
;ve removed items where I have no further comment). Cheers, W.<u></u><u></u=
></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 at 20:31, Eric Voit (evoit) &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:evoit@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">evoit@cisco.com</a>&gt=
; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi William,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks for the interest, thoughts in-line...<u></u><=
u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<div style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-l=
eft:1.5pt solid blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> netconf &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:netconf-b=
ounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">netconf-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>William Lupton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 29, 2019 6:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:netconf@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">netconf@ie=
tf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [netconf] YANG Push drafts comments<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:47.25pt;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">1.</span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">General:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:83.25pt;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">1.</span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Why is the subscription id optional? =
Without it, will the receiver always be able to tell how to handle an event=
 message?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white">
I assume you are referring to the pushed notification messages carrying eve=
nt records.=C2=A0 The RFC-5277 one way notification doesn=E2=80=99t support=
 a subscription-id object in its current event schema, so we can=E2=80=99t =
embed this object for subscribed-notifications.=C2=A0 This
 is one reason that draft-ietf-netconf-notification-messages was adopted.=
=C2=A0 For YANG push, we do have a subscription-id in the notification defi=
nition, which is then carried within the RFC-5277 one-way notification.<u><=
/u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I would expect this question to arise in the minds o=
f many readers. A note might be useful?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&lt;Eric&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0 Notes on this topic were in=
cluded in earlier versions of the document (e.g., version 10).=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
However other reviewers asked to remove these notes as they weren=E2=80=99t=
 explicitly needed for this specification.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0In the end, th=
e work on
 draft-ietf-netconf-notification-messages will restart after we get done th=
ese drafts, and hopefully will drive text back to this document to cover th=
is concern.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-l=
eft:1.5pt solid blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:47.25pt;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">2.</span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notific=
ations:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white">
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:83.25pt;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">3.</span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Event record:</span><u></u><u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:119.25pt;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">1.</span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">So does the &quot;event record&quot; =
term apply to all the drafts? If so, does &quot;event&quot; apply to all th=
e drafts? (This note is in the context of a later note about the fact that =
&quot;event stream&quot; appears to be specific to this draft.)</span><u></=
u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white">
Subscribing to an event stream is different than a subscribing to a datasto=
re. [...]<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This was a terminology comment. I felt that it wasn&=
#39;t always clear which terms were generic and would apply to all drafts. =
&quot;event record&quot;, &quot;event&quot; and &quot;event stream&quot; ca=
used me particular problems. It was just a comment... if people don&#39;t
 think there&#39;s a need for clarification (or greater rigor in the use of=
 terms) then that&#39;s fine.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&lt;Eric&gt;=C2=A0 The original =E2=80=9Cevent=E2=80=
=9D came from RFC-5277.=C2=A0=C2=A0 But RFC-5277 didn=E2=80=99t have a sepa=
rate term for the entity against which filter was applied (i.e., an event r=
ecord).=C2=A0 We also needed to tweak the definition of =E2=80=9Cevent stre=
am=E2=80=9D from the original
 RFC-5277 =E2=80=9Cstream=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 This was needed because the origi=
nal definition was NETCONF specific.=C2=A0
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">With that as a starting point, we then had terminolo=
gy established where any event could be documented via an event record, and=
 placed on an event stream.=C2=A0 This includes a populating an event strea=
m with the set of notifications coming
 from a separate YANG push subscription.=C2=A0 Event records generated this=
 way would look 100% identical what would come from original YANG Push subs=
cription.=C2=A0 This was not accidental.=C2=A0 And as a result it becomes p=
ossible for a publisher implementation to internally
 populate an event stream through the under-the-covers use of YANG push sof=
tware. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Based on this, the terminology was constructed not t=
o exclude the possibility that a push update could be an event record. =C2=
=A0=C2=A0But it was felt these were internal publisher complexities on corn=
er cases.=C2=A0 And getting to these details might
 confuse the casual reader.=C2=A0=C2=A0 So as a result, we simply avoided t=
he use of =E2=80=98event records=E2=80=99=C2=A0 within YANG Push.=C2=A0 I g=
uess this is a long way of saying that I hope the current text is sufficien=
t.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-l=
eft:1.5pt solid blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:83.25pt;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">4.</span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Event stream:</span><u></u><u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:119.25pt;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">1.</span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Having now read most of the YANG Push=
 draft, I realize that &quot;Event streams&quot; are a legacy thing and are=
 not used by YANG Push. This could be made clear. Otherwise it looks like t=
hese are a base concept that will be built
 on.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white">
I think event streams are useful.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t consider them legac=
y.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I didn&#39;t mean &quot;legacy&quot; pejoratively. R=
eading the draft I was thinking &quot;Ah, event streams are a core concept =
that will be leveraged by the other drafts&quot;. So I was surprised to dis=
cover that YANG Push doesn&#39;t use them. Assuming that I&#39;m correct
 here, I think that a note (either here or in YANG Push) could be helpful.<=
u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&lt;Eric&gt; If we do this, the right place would be=
 YANG Push.=C2=A0 I will leave the call on this to Alex. (cc=E2=80=99ed)<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-l=
eft:1.5pt solid blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:119.25pt;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">3.</span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">So referring to them as sets of Event=
s (rather than sets of Event streams) seems inaccurate.</span><u></u><u></u=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white">
I don=E2=80=99t see any text on either sets of events, or sets of event str=
eams.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sorry, part of this got lost in translation. I inten=
ded to refer to the fact that:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<ul type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal">
Event stream is defined (1.2) as &quot;A continuous, chronologically ordere=
d set of events...&quot;<u></u><u></u></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal">
And then later (2.1) it seems to be suggested that an event stream is a set=
 of event records (rather than a set of events)<u></u><u></u></li></ul>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">(But re-reading it just now, I&#39;m not sure whethe=
r it really says this! I also note that you commented on this point later. =
So we can drop this one.)<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-l=
eft:1.5pt solid blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:83.25pt;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">5.</span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">Notification message:</span><u></u><u=
></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:119.25pt;background:white">
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt">1.</span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt">I don&#39;t find &quot;The time the e=
vent was generated by the event source&quot;=C2=A0quite clear. Is it the ti=
me at which the change occurred or was detected (event occurrence time), or=
 the time at which the message was created? Probably
 the former?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white">
I can=E2=80=99t find the exact text quote:=C2=A0 <span style=3D"font-size:1=
2pt">&quot;The time the event was generated by the event source&quot;=C2=A0=
.
</span>=C2=A0=C2=A0Where is this?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sorry. The actual text is from RFC 5277, describing =
eventTime. Obviously I&#39;m not suggesting that RFC 5277 be changed!<u></u=
><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&lt;Eric&gt;=C2=A0 Yes, I never did like that text f=
rom RFC-5277.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I checked into why RFC-5277 was written this way =
several years a while ago.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Basically different implementations =
handled this in different ways, and they wanted text which wouldn=E2=80=99t
 preclude different implementations.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Eric <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>

</blockquote></div>

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This draft is a work item of the Network Configuration WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Subscription to YANG Datastores
        Authors         : Alexander Clemm
                          Eric Voit
                          Alberto Gonzalez Prieto
                          Ambika Prasad Tripathy
                          Einar Nilsen-Nygaard
                          Andy Bierman
                          Balazs Lengyel
	Filename        : draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push-22.txt
	Pages           : 58
	Date            : 2019-02-04

Abstract:
   Via the mechanism described in this document, subscriber applications
   may request a continuous, customized stream of updates from a YANG
   datastore.  Providing such visibility into updates enables new
   capabilities based on the remote mirroring and monitoring of
   configuration and operational state.


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Hi Martin,

Thank you for your review!  We have just posted an updated revision =
(-22)
per your comments.  (Please see replies inline, <ALEX>)

--- Alex

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Subject: [netconf] Yangdoctors last call review of
draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push

Hi,

This is my YANG doctor's review of draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push-21.

Reviewer: Martin Bj=F6rklund
Review result: Ready with Issues


o  General

  Check the output of idnits.  Specifically, add the 2119
  boilerplate.

  Also, since the YANG module uses 2119 language, add the YANG-ified
  version of the boilerplate to the description statement in the
  module, just before the copyright.

  <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
 =20

o  General

  The module is inconsistently indented and formatted.  The RFC editor
  will enforce consistent formatting, so in order to make their life
  easier it is better to do this work before it reaches them.

  Attached is a cleaned up version of the YANG module where I have
  done the following changes:

    o  pyang -f yang --keep-comments --yang-line-length 69

       (requires pyang 1.7.8)

    o  added newlines in long descriptions, to make separate
       paragraphs

    o  added extra space after "." in description statement (most of
       them already had two spaces)

    o  formatted some paragraphs (I use fill-paragraph in emacs, =
manually)

    o  added the 2119 boilerplate

  NOTE: I haven't done any other of the changes that I propose in
  this review.

  <ALEX> Thank you </ALEX>

o  Figure 6

  The tree diagram for push-change-update doesn't match the module.

  OLD:

     notifications:
       +---n push-update
       |  +--ro id?      sn:subscription-id
       |  +--ro datastore-contents?   <anydata>
       |  +--ro incomplete-update?     empty
       +---n push-change-update {on-change}?
          +--ro id?     sn:subscription-id
          +--ro datastore-changes?
          |  +--ro yang-patch
          |     +--ro patch-id        string
          |     +--ro ypatch:comment?    string
          |     +--ro ypatch:edit* [edit-id]
          |        +--ro ypatch:edit-id      string
          |        +--ro ypatch:operation    enumeration
          |        +--ro ypatch:target       target-resource-offset
          |        +--ro ypatch:point?       target-resource-offset
          |        +--ro ypatch:where?       enumeration
          |        +--ro ypatch:value?
          +--ro incomplete-update?    empty

  NEW:

     notifications:
       +---n push-update
       |  +--ro id?                   sn:subscription-id
       |  +--ro datastore-contents?   <anydata>
       |  +--ro incomplete-update?    empty
       +---n push-change-update {on-change}?
          +--ro id?                  sn:subscription-id
          +--ro datastore-changes
          |  +--ro yang-patch
          |     +--ro patch-id    string
          |     +--ro comment?    string
          |     +--ro edit* [edit-id]
          |        +--ro edit-id      string
          |        +--ro operation    enumeration
          |        +--ro target       target-resource-offset
          |        +--ro point?       target-resource-offset
          |        +--ro where?       enumeration
          |        +--ro value?       <anydata>
          +--ro incomplete-update?   empty

<ALEX> Updated </ALEX>
         =20
o  Figure 6

  The purpose of including tree diagrams is to give a easy-to-read
  overview to the reader.  When the diagram is spread out over
  several pages, it becomes more difficult to grasp.

  In this case, I would suggest that you split the diagram into
  smaller pieces, and place them together with the text that describe
  them.

  For example, in 4.2 you can have the first part of the tree that
  deals with subscription config; 4.3.1 the augmented notifs etc.

  <ALEX>  I am splitting the tree into smaller pieces as requested, =
although
I am not sure this is really needed.  While I agree with you in =
principle,
the tree output is structured a bit (into rpcs, notifications, etc), and =
has
items that are non-applicable dotted out  ("...").  It is simply a big
module, I guess...
  </ALEX>

o  Figure 9

  This example is difficult to read.  I suggest:

  OLD:

   <netconf:rpc message-id=3D"101"
     xmlns:netconf=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
     <establish-subscription
     xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notifications"
     xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
       <yp:datastore
       xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
         ds:operational
       </yp:datastore>
       <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
       xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
         /ex:foo
       </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
       <yp:on-change>
         <yp:dampening-period>100</yp:dampening-period>
       </yp:on-change>
     </establish-subscription>
   </netconf:rpc>

  NEW:

   <rpc message-id=3D"101"
        xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
     <establish-subscription
         xmlns=3D
           "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notifications"
         xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
       <yp:datastore
           xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
         ds:operational
       </yp:datastore>
       <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
           xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
         /ex:foo
       </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
       <yp:on-change>
         <yp:dampening-period>100</yp:dampening-period>
       </yp:on-change>
     </establish-subscription>
   </rpc>

<ALEX> Done </ALEX>
o  Figure 11

  Similar in this example:

  OLD:

   <netconf:rpc message-id=3D"102"
      xmlns:netconf=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
      <modify-subscription
      =
xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notifications"
      xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
       <id>1011</id>
       <yp:datastore
       xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
         ds:operational
       </yp:datastore>
       <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
         xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
         /ex:bar
       </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
       <yp:periodic>
         <yp:period>250</yp:period>
       </yp:periodic>
      </modify-subscription>
   </netconf:rpc>

  NEW:

   <rpc message-id=3D"102"
        xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
     <modify-subscription
         xmlns=3D
           "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notifications"
         xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
       <id>1011</id>
       <yp:datastore
           xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
         ds:operational
       </yp:datastore>
       <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
           xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
         /ex:bar
       </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
       <yp:periodic>
         <yp:period>250</yp:period>
       </yp:periodic>
      </modify-subscription>
   </rpc>

<ALEX> Done </ALEX>

o  Section 4.4.4

  (The figure in this example doesn't have a number)

  OLD:

 <netconf:rpc message-id=3D"103"
 xmlns:netconf=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
   <resync-subscription
   xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push"
   =
xmlns:sn=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notifications">
     <id>1011</id>
   </resync-subscription>
 </netconf:rpc>

  NEW:

   <rpc message-id=3D"103"
        xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
     <resync-subscription
         xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push"
       <id>1011</id>
     </resync-subscription>
    </netconf:rpc>

<ALEX> Done (no idea why no number is being generated for the number)
</ALEX>

o  Section 5.

  In order to get the RFC references right,  follow the pattern in
  other documents with YANG modules; e.g. RFC 8343.  Specifically,
  all references in RFCs must be found in the main text; this means
  that you need to add something like:

   This YANG module imports typedefs from [RFC6991].

<ALEX> Done </ALEX>=20
  =20
o  import yang-patch

  OLD:

    reference
      "RFC 8072: YANG Patch";

  NEW:

    reference
      "RFC 8072: YANG Patch Media Type";

      <ALEX> Done </ALEX>=20

o  typedef change-type

  The "reference" statement contains text that should be in the
  "description" statement (this comment has been raised before on the
  ML).

  I suggest:

  OLD:

    description
      "Specifies different types of datastore changes.";
    reference
      "RFC 8072 section 2.5, with a delta that it is valid for a
       receiver to process an update record which performs a create
       operation on a datastore node the receiver believes exists,
       or to process a delete on a datastore node the receiver
       believes is missing.";

   NEW:

    description
      "Specifies different types of datastore changes.

       This type is based on the edit operations defined for YANG
       Patch, with the difference that it is valid for a receiver to
       process an update record which performs a create operation on
       a datastore node the receiver believes exists, or to process a
       delete on a datastore node the receiver believes is missing.";
    reference
      "RFC 8072: YANG Patch Media Type, section 2.5";

<ALEX> Done </ALEX>=20

     =20
o  wrong type used (timeticks)

  This was discussed on the ML, but apparently the change wasn't
  introduced yet.

  A couple of 'period' nodes use the type yang:timeticks, but it is
  not an appropriate type.  RFC 6991 describes it as:

         The timeticks type represents a non-negative integer that
         represents the time, modulo 2^32 (4294967296 decimal), in
         hundredths of a second between two epochs.  When a schema
         node is defined that uses this type, the description of
         the schema node identifies both of the reference epochs.

  As Juergen pointed out, it seems you want a TimeInterval - but this
  type is not present in RFC 6991.  So add:

    type centiseconds {
      type uint32;
      description
        "A period of time, measured in units of 0.01 seconds.";
    }

  and use that instead.

  <ALEX> Done (added typedef centiseconds and updated the diagrams
accordingly)</ALEX>=20

o  container datastore-changes

  OLD:

    container datastore-changes {
      description
        "This contains the set of datastore changes of the target
         datastore starting at the time of the previous update, per
         the terms of the subscription.  The datastore changes are
         encoded per RFC 8027 (YANG Patch).";
      uses ypatch:yang-patch;

  NEW:

    container datastore-changes {
      description
        "This contains the set of datastore changes of the target
         datastore starting at the time of the previous update, per
         the terms of the subscription.";
      uses ypatch:yang-patch;

   (The reference was not correct, and it isn't really necessary
   anymore, since you use the grouping from yang patch.)

   <ALEX> Done </ALEX>=20

o  leaf datastore-xpath-filter

  This leaf has the same problem that stream-xpath-filter had; it
  doesn't work for RESTCONF.  We need to apply the same solution as
  for stream-xpath-filter:

  OLD:

       leaf datastore-xpath-filter {
         if-feature "sn:xpath";
         type yang:xpath1.0;
         description
           "This parameter contains an XPath expression identifying
           the portions of the target datastore to retrieve.
           If the expression returns a node-set, all nodes in the
           node-set are selected by the filter.  Otherwise, if the
           expression does not return a node-set, the filter
           doesn't select any nodes.
           The expression is evaluated in the following XPath
           context:
            o  The set of namespace declarations are those in scope
               on the 'datastore-xpath-filter' leaf element.
            o  The set of variable bindings is empty.
            o  The function library is the core function library, and
               the XPath functions defined in section 10 in RFC 7950.
            o  The context node is the root node of the target
               datastore.";
       }

  NEW:

       leaf datastore-xpath-filter {
         if-feature "sn:xpath";
         type yang:xpath1.0;
         description
           "This parameter contains an XPath expression identifying
           the portions of the target datastore to retrieve.

           If the expression returns a node-set, all nodes in the
           node-set are selected by the filter.  Otherwise, if the
           expression does not return a node-set, the filter
           doesn't select any nodes.

           The expression is evaluated in the following XPath
           context:

             o   The set of namespace declarations is the set of prefix
                 and namespace pairs for all YANG modules implemented
                 by the server, where the prefix is the YANG module
                 name and the namespace is as defined by the
                 'namespace' statement in the YANG module.

                 If the leaf is encoded in XML, all namespace
                 declarations in scope on the 'stream-xpath-filter'
                 leaf element are added to the set of namespace
                 declarations.  If a prefix found in the XML is
                 already present in the set of namespace declarations,
                 the namespace in the XML is used.

             o  The set of variable bindings is empty.

             o  The function library is the core function library, and
                the XPath functions defined in section 10 in RFC 7950.

             o  The context node is the root node of the target
                datastore.";
       }

<ALEX> Done </ALEX>

o  Section A.1

  I have trouble parsing this paragraph:

   References to specific identities within the either the subscribed-
   notifications YANG model or the yang-push YANG model may be returned
   as part of the error responses resulting from failed attempts at
   datastore subscription.  Following are valid errors per RPC (note:
   throughout this section the prefix 'sn' indicates an item imported
   from the subscribed-notifications.yang model):

  "the either the" needs to be fixed.

  Suggest you spell ou the real names of the YANG modules you refer
  to (s/subscribed-notifications.yang
  model/"ietf-subscribed-notifications" YANG module/  etc)

<ALEX> Done.  (s/within the either the/in the/ and spelled out the names =
of
the YANG modules) <ALEX>=20
 =20
o  Section A.1

  I don't think this document should repeat what's already specified
  in the SN draft.  Specifically, I think this section should list
  the *additional* errors that this document introduces.  I also note
  that the list in this document is not the same as in the SN draft...

  So I suggest:

  OLD:

   establish-subscription         modify-subscription
   ----------------------         -------------------
    cant-exclude                   sn:filter-unsupported
    datastore-not-subscribable     sn:insufficient-resources
    sn:dscp-unavailable            sn:no-such-subscription
    sn:filter-unsupported          period-unsupported
    sn:insufficient-resources      update-too-big
    on-change-unsupported          sync-too-big
    on-change-sync-unsupported     unchanging-selection
    period-unsupported
    update-too-big                resync-subscription
    sync-too-big                  --------------------
    unchanging-selection           no-such-subscription-resync
                                   sync-too-big

   delete-subscription            kill-subscription
   ----------------------         -----------------
    sn:no-such-subscription        sn:no-such-subscription

  NEW:

   establish-subscription         modify-subscription
   ----------------------         -------------------
    cant-exclude                   period-unsupported
    datastore-not-subscribable     update-too-big
    on-change-unsupported          sync-too-big
    on-change-sync-unsupported     unchanging-selection
    period-unsupported
    update-too-big                resync-subscription
    sync-too-big                  --------------------
    unchanging-selection           no-such-subscription-resync
                                   sync-too-big

<ALEX>Done, and changed the introductory paragraph accordingly.  </ALEX> =
=20


o  Section A.2

  Similar to A.1, suggest you remove the sn: errors that are already
  covered by SN.

<ALEX> Done, with corresponding changes to the introductory paragraph.
</ALEX>=20


/martin


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Hi,


"Alexander Clemm" <ludwig@clemm.org> wrote:
> Hi Martin,
> =

> Thank you for your review!  We have just posted an updated revision (=
-22)
> per your comments.  (Please see replies inline, <ALEX>)

Thanks!  I have reviewed the changes, and the new version addresses
all my comments.

FYI, I found a few nits that you can fix if you post a new version, or
during AUTH48:


OLD:

           Figure 9: Model structure (non-augmentation portions

NEW:

           Figure 9: Model structure (non-augmentation portions)


And some formatting issues in the new text added to the YANG module.
You can reach out to me directly if you want these, or just run pyang
yourself.



/martin




> =

> --- Alex
> =

> -----Original Message-----
> From: netconf <netconf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Martin Bjorklun=
d
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 7:51 AM
> To: yang-doctors@ietf.org; draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push.all@ietf.org
> Cc: netconf@ietf.org
> Subject: [netconf] Yangdoctors last call review of
> draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push
> =

> Hi,
> =

> This is my YANG doctor's review of draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push-21.
> =

> Reviewer: Martin Bj=F6rklund
> Review result: Ready with Issues
> =

> =

> o  General
> =

>   Check the output of idnits.  Specifically, add the 2119
>   boilerplate.
> =

>   Also, since the YANG module uses 2119 language, add the YANG-ified
>   version of the boilerplate to the description statement in the
>   module, just before the copyright.
> =

>   <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
>   =

> =

> o  General
> =

>   The module is inconsistently indented and formatted.  The RFC edito=
r
>   will enforce consistent formatting, so in order to make their life
>   easier it is better to do this work before it reaches them.
> =

>   Attached is a cleaned up version of the YANG module where I have
>   done the following changes:
> =

>     o  pyang -f yang --keep-comments --yang-line-length 69
> =

>        (requires pyang 1.7.8)
> =

>     o  added newlines in long descriptions, to make separate
>        paragraphs
> =

>     o  added extra space after "." in description statement (most of
>        them already had two spaces)
> =

>     o  formatted some paragraphs (I use fill-paragraph in emacs, manu=
ally)
> =

>     o  added the 2119 boilerplate
> =

>   NOTE: I haven't done any other of the changes that I propose in
>   this review.
> =

>   <ALEX> Thank you </ALEX>
> =

> o  Figure 6
> =

>   The tree diagram for push-change-update doesn't match the module.
> =

>   OLD:
> =

>      notifications:
>        +---n push-update
>        |  +--ro id?      sn:subscription-id
>        |  +--ro datastore-contents?   <anydata>
>        |  +--ro incomplete-update?     empty
>        +---n push-change-update {on-change}?
>           +--ro id?     sn:subscription-id
>           +--ro datastore-changes?
>           |  +--ro yang-patch
>           |     +--ro patch-id        string
>           |     +--ro ypatch:comment?    string
>           |     +--ro ypatch:edit* [edit-id]
>           |        +--ro ypatch:edit-id      string
>           |        +--ro ypatch:operation    enumeration
>           |        +--ro ypatch:target       target-resource-offset
>           |        +--ro ypatch:point?       target-resource-offset
>           |        +--ro ypatch:where?       enumeration
>           |        +--ro ypatch:value?
>           +--ro incomplete-update?    empty
> =

>   NEW:
> =

>      notifications:
>        +---n push-update
>        |  +--ro id?                   sn:subscription-id
>        |  +--ro datastore-contents?   <anydata>
>        |  +--ro incomplete-update?    empty
>        +---n push-change-update {on-change}?
>           +--ro id?                  sn:subscription-id
>           +--ro datastore-changes
>           |  +--ro yang-patch
>           |     +--ro patch-id    string
>           |     +--ro comment?    string
>           |     +--ro edit* [edit-id]
>           |        +--ro edit-id      string
>           |        +--ro operation    enumeration
>           |        +--ro target       target-resource-offset
>           |        +--ro point?       target-resource-offset
>           |        +--ro where?       enumeration
>           |        +--ro value?       <anydata>
>           +--ro incomplete-update?   empty
> =

> <ALEX> Updated </ALEX>
>           =

> o  Figure 6
> =

>   The purpose of including tree diagrams is to give a easy-to-read
>   overview to the reader.  When the diagram is spread out over
>   several pages, it becomes more difficult to grasp.
> =

>   In this case, I would suggest that you split the diagram into
>   smaller pieces, and place them together with the text that describe=

>   them.
> =

>   For example, in 4.2 you can have the first part of the tree that
>   deals with subscription config; 4.3.1 the augmented notifs etc.
> =

>   <ALEX>  I am splitting the tree into smaller pieces as requested, a=
lthough
> I am not sure this is really needed.  While I agree with you in princ=
iple,
> the tree output is structured a bit (into rpcs, notifications, etc), =
and has
> items that are non-applicable dotted out  ("...").  It is simply a bi=
g
> module, I guess...
>   </ALEX>
> =

> o  Figure 9
> =

>   This example is difficult to read.  I suggest:
> =

>   OLD:
> =

>    <netconf:rpc message-id=3D"101"
>      xmlns:netconf=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>      <establish-subscription
>      xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notificatio=
ns"
>      xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
>        <yp:datastore
>        xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
>          ds:operational
>        </yp:datastore>
>        <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
>        xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
>          /ex:foo
>        </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
>        <yp:on-change>
>          <yp:dampening-period>100</yp:dampening-period>
>        </yp:on-change>
>      </establish-subscription>
>    </netconf:rpc>
> =

>   NEW:
> =

>    <rpc message-id=3D"101"
>         xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>      <establish-subscription
>          xmlns=3D
>            "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notifications=
"
>          xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
>        <yp:datastore
>            xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
>          ds:operational
>        </yp:datastore>
>        <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
>            xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
>          /ex:foo
>        </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
>        <yp:on-change>
>          <yp:dampening-period>100</yp:dampening-period>
>        </yp:on-change>
>      </establish-subscription>
>    </rpc>
> =

> <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
> o  Figure 11
> =

>   Similar in this example:
> =

>   OLD:
> =

>    <netconf:rpc message-id=3D"102"
>       xmlns:netconf=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>       <modify-subscription
>       xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notificati=
ons"
>       xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
>        <id>1011</id>
>        <yp:datastore
>        xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
>          ds:operational
>        </yp:datastore>
>        <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
>          xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
>          /ex:bar
>        </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
>        <yp:periodic>
>          <yp:period>250</yp:period>
>        </yp:periodic>
>       </modify-subscription>
>    </netconf:rpc>
> =

>   NEW:
> =

>    <rpc message-id=3D"102"
>         xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>      <modify-subscription
>          xmlns=3D
>            "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notifications=
"
>          xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
>        <id>1011</id>
>        <yp:datastore
>            xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
>          ds:operational
>        </yp:datastore>
>        <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
>            xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
>          /ex:bar
>        </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
>        <yp:periodic>
>          <yp:period>250</yp:period>
>        </yp:periodic>
>       </modify-subscription>
>    </rpc>
> =

> <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
> =

> o  Section 4.4.4
> =

>   (The figure in this example doesn't have a number)
> =

>   OLD:
> =

>  <netconf:rpc message-id=3D"103"
>  xmlns:netconf=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>    <resync-subscription
>    xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push"
>    xmlns:sn=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notificati=
ons">
>      <id>1011</id>
>    </resync-subscription>
>  </netconf:rpc>
> =

>   NEW:
> =

>    <rpc message-id=3D"103"
>         xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>      <resync-subscription
>          xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push"
>        <id>1011</id>
>      </resync-subscription>
>     </netconf:rpc>
> =

> <ALEX> Done (no idea why no number is being generated for the number)=

> </ALEX>
> =

> o  Section 5.
> =

>   In order to get the RFC references right,  follow the pattern in
>   other documents with YANG modules; e.g. RFC 8343.  Specifically,
>   all references in RFCs must be found in the main text; this means
>   that you need to add something like:
> =

>    This YANG module imports typedefs from [RFC6991].
> =

> <ALEX> Done </ALEX> =

>    =

> o  import yang-patch
> =

>   OLD:
> =

>     reference
>       "RFC 8072: YANG Patch";
> =

>   NEW:
> =

>     reference
>       "RFC 8072: YANG Patch Media Type";
> =

>       <ALEX> Done </ALEX> =

> =

> o  typedef change-type
> =

>   The "reference" statement contains text that should be in the
>   "description" statement (this comment has been raised before on the=

>   ML).
> =

>   I suggest:
> =

>   OLD:
> =

>     description
>       "Specifies different types of datastore changes.";
>     reference
>       "RFC 8072 section 2.5, with a delta that it is valid for a
>        receiver to process an update record which performs a create
>        operation on a datastore node the receiver believes exists,
>        or to process a delete on a datastore node the receiver
>        believes is missing.";
> =

>    NEW:
> =

>     description
>       "Specifies different types of datastore changes.
> =

>        This type is based on the edit operations defined for YANG
>        Patch, with the difference that it is valid for a receiver to
>        process an update record which performs a create operation on
>        a datastore node the receiver believes exists, or to process a=

>        delete on a datastore node the receiver believes is missing.";=

>     reference
>       "RFC 8072: YANG Patch Media Type, section 2.5";
> =

> <ALEX> Done </ALEX> =

> =

>       =

> o  wrong type used (timeticks)
> =

>   This was discussed on the ML, but apparently the change wasn't
>   introduced yet.
> =

>   A couple of 'period' nodes use the type yang:timeticks, but it is
>   not an appropriate type.  RFC 6991 describes it as:
> =

>          The timeticks type represents a non-negative integer that
>          represents the time, modulo 2^32 (4294967296 decimal), in
>          hundredths of a second between two epochs.  When a schema
>          node is defined that uses this type, the description of
>          the schema node identifies both of the reference epochs.
> =

>   As Juergen pointed out, it seems you want a TimeInterval - but this=

>   type is not present in RFC 6991.  So add:
> =

>     type centiseconds {
>       type uint32;
>       description
>         "A period of time, measured in units of 0.01 seconds.";
>     }
> =

>   and use that instead.
> =

>   <ALEX> Done (added typedef centiseconds and updated the diagrams
> accordingly)</ALEX> =

> =

> o  container datastore-changes
> =

>   OLD:
> =

>     container datastore-changes {
>       description
>         "This contains the set of datastore changes of the target
>          datastore starting at the time of the previous update, per
>          the terms of the subscription.  The datastore changes are
>          encoded per RFC 8027 (YANG Patch).";
>       uses ypatch:yang-patch;
> =

>   NEW:
> =

>     container datastore-changes {
>       description
>         "This contains the set of datastore changes of the target
>          datastore starting at the time of the previous update, per
>          the terms of the subscription.";
>       uses ypatch:yang-patch;
> =

>    (The reference was not correct, and it isn't really necessary
>    anymore, since you use the grouping from yang patch.)
> =

>    <ALEX> Done </ALEX> =

> =

> o  leaf datastore-xpath-filter
> =

>   This leaf has the same problem that stream-xpath-filter had; it
>   doesn't work for RESTCONF.  We need to apply the same solution as
>   for stream-xpath-filter:
> =

>   OLD:
> =

>        leaf datastore-xpath-filter {
>          if-feature "sn:xpath";
>          type yang:xpath1.0;
>          description
>            "This parameter contains an XPath expression identifying
>            the portions of the target datastore to retrieve.
>            If the expression returns a node-set, all nodes in the
>            node-set are selected by the filter.  Otherwise, if the
>            expression does not return a node-set, the filter
>            doesn't select any nodes.
>            The expression is evaluated in the following XPath
>            context:
>             o  The set of namespace declarations are those in scope
>                on the 'datastore-xpath-filter' leaf element.
>             o  The set of variable bindings is empty.
>             o  The function library is the core function library, and=

>                the XPath functions defined in section 10 in RFC 7950.=

>             o  The context node is the root node of the target
>                datastore.";
>        }
> =

>   NEW:
> =

>        leaf datastore-xpath-filter {
>          if-feature "sn:xpath";
>          type yang:xpath1.0;
>          description
>            "This parameter contains an XPath expression identifying
>            the portions of the target datastore to retrieve.
> =

>            If the expression returns a node-set, all nodes in the
>            node-set are selected by the filter.  Otherwise, if the
>            expression does not return a node-set, the filter
>            doesn't select any nodes.
> =

>            The expression is evaluated in the following XPath
>            context:
> =

>              o   The set of namespace declarations is the set of pref=
ix
>                  and namespace pairs for all YANG modules implemented=

>                  by the server, where the prefix is the YANG module
>                  name and the namespace is as defined by the
>                  'namespace' statement in the YANG module.
> =

>                  If the leaf is encoded in XML, all namespace
>                  declarations in scope on the 'stream-xpath-filter'
>                  leaf element are added to the set of namespace
>                  declarations.  If a prefix found in the XML is
>                  already present in the set of namespace declarations=
,
>                  the namespace in the XML is used.
> =

>              o  The set of variable bindings is empty.
> =

>              o  The function library is the core function library, an=
d
>                 the XPath functions defined in section 10 in RFC 7950=
.=

> =

>              o  The context node is the root node of the target
>                 datastore.";
>        }
> =

> <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
> =

> o  Section A.1
> =

>   I have trouble parsing this paragraph:
> =

>    References to specific identities within the either the subscribed=
-
>    notifications YANG model or the yang-push YANG model may be return=
ed
>    as part of the error responses resulting from failed attempts at
>    datastore subscription.  Following are valid errors per RPC (note:=

>    throughout this section the prefix 'sn' indicates an item imported=

>    from the subscribed-notifications.yang model):
> =

>   "the either the" needs to be fixed.
> =

>   Suggest you spell ou the real names of the YANG modules you refer
>   to (s/subscribed-notifications.yang
>   model/"ietf-subscribed-notifications" YANG module/  etc)
> =

> <ALEX> Done.  (s/within the either the/in the/ and spelled out the na=
mes of
> the YANG modules) <ALEX> =

>   =

> o  Section A.1
> =

>   I don't think this document should repeat what's already specified
>   in the SN draft.  Specifically, I think this section should list
>   the *additional* errors that this document introduces.  I also note=

>   that the list in this document is not the same as in the SN draft..=
.=

> =

>   So I suggest:
> =

>   OLD:
> =

>    establish-subscription         modify-subscription
>    ----------------------         -------------------
>     cant-exclude                   sn:filter-unsupported
>     datastore-not-subscribable     sn:insufficient-resources
>     sn:dscp-unavailable            sn:no-such-subscription
>     sn:filter-unsupported          period-unsupported
>     sn:insufficient-resources      update-too-big
>     on-change-unsupported          sync-too-big
>     on-change-sync-unsupported     unchanging-selection
>     period-unsupported
>     update-too-big                resync-subscription
>     sync-too-big                  --------------------
>     unchanging-selection           no-such-subscription-resync
>                                    sync-too-big
> =

>    delete-subscription            kill-subscription
>    ----------------------         -----------------
>     sn:no-such-subscription        sn:no-such-subscription
> =

>   NEW:
> =

>    establish-subscription         modify-subscription
>    ----------------------         -------------------
>     cant-exclude                   period-unsupported
>     datastore-not-subscribable     update-too-big
>     on-change-unsupported          sync-too-big
>     on-change-sync-unsupported     unchanging-selection
>     period-unsupported
>     update-too-big                resync-subscription
>     sync-too-big                  --------------------
>     unchanging-selection           no-such-subscription-resync
>                                    sync-too-big
> =

> <ALEX>Done, and changed the introductory paragraph accordingly.  </AL=
EX>  =

> =

> =

> o  Section A.2
> =

>   Similar to A.1, suggest you remove the sn: errors that are already
>   covered by SN.
> =

> <ALEX> Done, with corresponding changes to the introductory paragraph=
.=

> </ALEX> =

> =

> =

> /martin
> =


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Thanks, Martin!
--- Alex

> -----Original Message-----
> From: netconf [mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin
> Bjorklund
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 12:03 AM
> To: ludwig@clemm.org
> Cc: yang-doctors@ietf.org; draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push.all@ietf.org;
> netconf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [netconf] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-netconf=
-yang-
> push
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
>=20
> "Alexander Clemm" <ludwig@clemm.org> wrote:
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > Thank you for your review!  We have just posted an updated revision
> > (-22) per your comments.  (Please see replies inline, <ALEX>)
>=20
> Thanks!  I have reviewed the changes, and the new version addresses all m=
y
> comments.
>=20
> FYI, I found a few nits that you can fix if you post a new version, or du=
ring
> AUTH48:
>=20
>=20
> OLD:
>=20
>            Figure 9: Model structure (non-augmentation portions
>=20
> NEW:
>=20
>            Figure 9: Model structure (non-augmentation portions)
>=20
>=20
> And some formatting issues in the new text added to the YANG module.
> You can reach out to me directly if you want these, or just run pyang you=
rself.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> /martin
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> >
> > --- Alex
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: netconf <netconf-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Martin Bjorklund
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 7:51 AM
> > To: yang-doctors@ietf.org; draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push.all@ietf.org
> > Cc: netconf@ietf.org
> > Subject: [netconf] Yangdoctors last call review of
> > draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is my YANG doctor's review of draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push-21.
> >
> > Reviewer: Martin Bj=F6rklund
> > Review result: Ready with Issues
> >
> >
> > o  General
> >
> >   Check the output of idnits.  Specifically, add the 2119
> >   boilerplate.
> >
> >   Also, since the YANG module uses 2119 language, add the YANG-ified
> >   version of the boilerplate to the description statement in the
> >   module, just before the copyright.
> >
> >   <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
> >
> >
> > o  General
> >
> >   The module is inconsistently indented and formatted.  The RFC editor
> >   will enforce consistent formatting, so in order to make their life
> >   easier it is better to do this work before it reaches them.
> >
> >   Attached is a cleaned up version of the YANG module where I have
> >   done the following changes:
> >
> >     o  pyang -f yang --keep-comments --yang-line-length 69
> >
> >        (requires pyang 1.7.8)
> >
> >     o  added newlines in long descriptions, to make separate
> >        paragraphs
> >
> >     o  added extra space after "." in description statement (most of
> >        them already had two spaces)
> >
> >     o  formatted some paragraphs (I use fill-paragraph in emacs,
> > manually)
> >
> >     o  added the 2119 boilerplate
> >
> >   NOTE: I haven't done any other of the changes that I propose in
> >   this review.
> >
> >   <ALEX> Thank you </ALEX>
> >
> > o  Figure 6
> >
> >   The tree diagram for push-change-update doesn't match the module.
> >
> >   OLD:
> >
> >      notifications:
> >        +---n push-update
> >        |  +--ro id?      sn:subscription-id
> >        |  +--ro datastore-contents?   <anydata>
> >        |  +--ro incomplete-update?     empty
> >        +---n push-change-update {on-change}?
> >           +--ro id?     sn:subscription-id
> >           +--ro datastore-changes?
> >           |  +--ro yang-patch
> >           |     +--ro patch-id        string
> >           |     +--ro ypatch:comment?    string
> >           |     +--ro ypatch:edit* [edit-id]
> >           |        +--ro ypatch:edit-id      string
> >           |        +--ro ypatch:operation    enumeration
> >           |        +--ro ypatch:target       target-resource-offset
> >           |        +--ro ypatch:point?       target-resource-offset
> >           |        +--ro ypatch:where?       enumeration
> >           |        +--ro ypatch:value?
> >           +--ro incomplete-update?    empty
> >
> >   NEW:
> >
> >      notifications:
> >        +---n push-update
> >        |  +--ro id?                   sn:subscription-id
> >        |  +--ro datastore-contents?   <anydata>
> >        |  +--ro incomplete-update?    empty
> >        +---n push-change-update {on-change}?
> >           +--ro id?                  sn:subscription-id
> >           +--ro datastore-changes
> >           |  +--ro yang-patch
> >           |     +--ro patch-id    string
> >           |     +--ro comment?    string
> >           |     +--ro edit* [edit-id]
> >           |        +--ro edit-id      string
> >           |        +--ro operation    enumeration
> >           |        +--ro target       target-resource-offset
> >           |        +--ro point?       target-resource-offset
> >           |        +--ro where?       enumeration
> >           |        +--ro value?       <anydata>
> >           +--ro incomplete-update?   empty
> >
> > <ALEX> Updated </ALEX>
> >
> > o  Figure 6
> >
> >   The purpose of including tree diagrams is to give a easy-to-read
> >   overview to the reader.  When the diagram is spread out over
> >   several pages, it becomes more difficult to grasp.
> >
> >   In this case, I would suggest that you split the diagram into
> >   smaller pieces, and place them together with the text that describe
> >   them.
> >
> >   For example, in 4.2 you can have the first part of the tree that
> >   deals with subscription config; 4.3.1 the augmented notifs etc.
> >
> >   <ALEX>  I am splitting the tree into smaller pieces as requested,
> > although I am not sure this is really needed.  While I agree with you
> > in principle, the tree output is structured a bit (into rpcs,
> > notifications, etc), and has items that are non-applicable dotted out
> > ("...").  It is simply a big module, I guess...
> >   </ALEX>
> >
> > o  Figure 9
> >
> >   This example is difficult to read.  I suggest:
> >
> >   OLD:
> >
> >    <netconf:rpc message-id=3D"101"
> >      xmlns:netconf=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
> >      <establish-subscription
> >      xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notifications=
"
> >      xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
> >        <yp:datastore
> >        xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
> >          ds:operational
> >        </yp:datastore>
> >        <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
> >        xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
> >          /ex:foo
> >        </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
> >        <yp:on-change>
> >          <yp:dampening-period>100</yp:dampening-period>
> >        </yp:on-change>
> >      </establish-subscription>
> >    </netconf:rpc>
> >
> >   NEW:
> >
> >    <rpc message-id=3D"101"
> >         xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
> >      <establish-subscription
> >          xmlns=3D
> >            "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notifications"
> >          xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
> >        <yp:datastore
> >            xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
> >          ds:operational
> >        </yp:datastore>
> >        <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
> >            xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
> >          /ex:foo
> >        </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
> >        <yp:on-change>
> >          <yp:dampening-period>100</yp:dampening-period>
> >        </yp:on-change>
> >      </establish-subscription>
> >    </rpc>
> >
> > <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
> > o  Figure 11
> >
> >   Similar in this example:
> >
> >   OLD:
> >
> >    <netconf:rpc message-id=3D"102"
> >       xmlns:netconf=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
> >       <modify-subscription
> >       xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notification=
s"
> >       xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
> >        <id>1011</id>
> >        <yp:datastore
> >        xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
> >          ds:operational
> >        </yp:datastore>
> >        <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
> >          xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
> >          /ex:bar
> >        </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
> >        <yp:periodic>
> >          <yp:period>250</yp:period>
> >        </yp:periodic>
> >       </modify-subscription>
> >    </netconf:rpc>
> >
> >   NEW:
> >
> >    <rpc message-id=3D"102"
> >         xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
> >      <modify-subscription
> >          xmlns=3D
> >            "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notifications"
> >          xmlns:yp=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push">
> >        <id>1011</id>
> >        <yp:datastore
> >            xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores">
> >          ds:operational
> >        </yp:datastore>
> >        <yp:datastore-xpath-filter
> >            xmlns:ex=3D"http://example.com/sample-data/1.0">
> >          /ex:bar
> >        </yp:datastore-xpath-filter>
> >        <yp:periodic>
> >          <yp:period>250</yp:period>
> >        </yp:periodic>
> >       </modify-subscription>
> >    </rpc>
> >
> > <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
> >
> > o  Section 4.4.4
> >
> >   (The figure in this example doesn't have a number)
> >
> >   OLD:
> >
> >  <netconf:rpc message-id=3D"103"
> >  xmlns:netconf=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
> >    <resync-subscription
> >    xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push"
> >    xmlns:sn=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-subscribed-notification=
s">
> >      <id>1011</id>
> >    </resync-subscription>
> >  </netconf:rpc>
> >
> >   NEW:
> >
> >    <rpc message-id=3D"103"
> >         xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
> >      <resync-subscription
> >          xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-yang-push"
> >        <id>1011</id>
> >      </resync-subscription>
> >     </netconf:rpc>
> >
> > <ALEX> Done (no idea why no number is being generated for the number)
> > </ALEX>
> >
> > o  Section 5.
> >
> >   In order to get the RFC references right,  follow the pattern in
> >   other documents with YANG modules; e.g. RFC 8343.  Specifically,
> >   all references in RFCs must be found in the main text; this means
> >   that you need to add something like:
> >
> >    This YANG module imports typedefs from [RFC6991].
> >
> > <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
> >
> > o  import yang-patch
> >
> >   OLD:
> >
> >     reference
> >       "RFC 8072: YANG Patch";
> >
> >   NEW:
> >
> >     reference
> >       "RFC 8072: YANG Patch Media Type";
> >
> >       <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
> >
> > o  typedef change-type
> >
> >   The "reference" statement contains text that should be in the
> >   "description" statement (this comment has been raised before on the
> >   ML).
> >
> >   I suggest:
> >
> >   OLD:
> >
> >     description
> >       "Specifies different types of datastore changes.";
> >     reference
> >       "RFC 8072 section 2.5, with a delta that it is valid for a
> >        receiver to process an update record which performs a create
> >        operation on a datastore node the receiver believes exists,
> >        or to process a delete on a datastore node the receiver
> >        believes is missing.";
> >
> >    NEW:
> >
> >     description
> >       "Specifies different types of datastore changes.
> >
> >        This type is based on the edit operations defined for YANG
> >        Patch, with the difference that it is valid for a receiver to
> >        process an update record which performs a create operation on
> >        a datastore node the receiver believes exists, or to process a
> >        delete on a datastore node the receiver believes is missing.";
> >     reference
> >       "RFC 8072: YANG Patch Media Type, section 2.5";
> >
> > <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
> >
> >
> > o  wrong type used (timeticks)
> >
> >   This was discussed on the ML, but apparently the change wasn't
> >   introduced yet.
> >
> >   A couple of 'period' nodes use the type yang:timeticks, but it is
> >   not an appropriate type.  RFC 6991 describes it as:
> >
> >          The timeticks type represents a non-negative integer that
> >          represents the time, modulo 2^32 (4294967296 decimal), in
> >          hundredths of a second between two epochs.  When a schema
> >          node is defined that uses this type, the description of
> >          the schema node identifies both of the reference epochs.
> >
> >   As Juergen pointed out, it seems you want a TimeInterval - but this
> >   type is not present in RFC 6991.  So add:
> >
> >     type centiseconds {
> >       type uint32;
> >       description
> >         "A period of time, measured in units of 0.01 seconds.";
> >     }
> >
> >   and use that instead.
> >
> >   <ALEX> Done (added typedef centiseconds and updated the diagrams
> > accordingly)</ALEX>
> >
> > o  container datastore-changes
> >
> >   OLD:
> >
> >     container datastore-changes {
> >       description
> >         "This contains the set of datastore changes of the target
> >          datastore starting at the time of the previous update, per
> >          the terms of the subscription.  The datastore changes are
> >          encoded per RFC 8027 (YANG Patch).";
> >       uses ypatch:yang-patch;
> >
> >   NEW:
> >
> >     container datastore-changes {
> >       description
> >         "This contains the set of datastore changes of the target
> >          datastore starting at the time of the previous update, per
> >          the terms of the subscription.";
> >       uses ypatch:yang-patch;
> >
> >    (The reference was not correct, and it isn't really necessary
> >    anymore, since you use the grouping from yang patch.)
> >
> >    <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
> >
> > o  leaf datastore-xpath-filter
> >
> >   This leaf has the same problem that stream-xpath-filter had; it
> >   doesn't work for RESTCONF.  We need to apply the same solution as
> >   for stream-xpath-filter:
> >
> >   OLD:
> >
> >        leaf datastore-xpath-filter {
> >          if-feature "sn:xpath";
> >          type yang:xpath1.0;
> >          description
> >            "This parameter contains an XPath expression identifying
> >            the portions of the target datastore to retrieve.
> >            If the expression returns a node-set, all nodes in the
> >            node-set are selected by the filter.  Otherwise, if the
> >            expression does not return a node-set, the filter
> >            doesn't select any nodes.
> >            The expression is evaluated in the following XPath
> >            context:
> >             o  The set of namespace declarations are those in scope
> >                on the 'datastore-xpath-filter' leaf element.
> >             o  The set of variable bindings is empty.
> >             o  The function library is the core function library, and
> >                the XPath functions defined in section 10 in RFC 7950.
> >             o  The context node is the root node of the target
> >                datastore.";
> >        }
> >
> >   NEW:
> >
> >        leaf datastore-xpath-filter {
> >          if-feature "sn:xpath";
> >          type yang:xpath1.0;
> >          description
> >            "This parameter contains an XPath expression identifying
> >            the portions of the target datastore to retrieve.
> >
> >            If the expression returns a node-set, all nodes in the
> >            node-set are selected by the filter.  Otherwise, if the
> >            expression does not return a node-set, the filter
> >            doesn't select any nodes.
> >
> >            The expression is evaluated in the following XPath
> >            context:
> >
> >              o   The set of namespace declarations is the set of prefix
> >                  and namespace pairs for all YANG modules implemented
> >                  by the server, where the prefix is the YANG module
> >                  name and the namespace is as defined by the
> >                  'namespace' statement in the YANG module.
> >
> >                  If the leaf is encoded in XML, all namespace
> >                  declarations in scope on the 'stream-xpath-filter'
> >                  leaf element are added to the set of namespace
> >                  declarations.  If a prefix found in the XML is
> >                  already present in the set of namespace declarations,
> >                  the namespace in the XML is used.
> >
> >              o  The set of variable bindings is empty.
> >
> >              o  The function library is the core function library, and
> >                 the XPath functions defined in section 10 in RFC 7950.
> >
> >              o  The context node is the root node of the target
> >                 datastore.";
> >        }
> >
> > <ALEX> Done </ALEX>
> >
> > o  Section A.1
> >
> >   I have trouble parsing this paragraph:
> >
> >    References to specific identities within the either the subscribed-
> >    notifications YANG model or the yang-push YANG model may be returned
> >    as part of the error responses resulting from failed attempts at
> >    datastore subscription.  Following are valid errors per RPC (note:
> >    throughout this section the prefix 'sn' indicates an item imported
> >    from the subscribed-notifications.yang model):
> >
> >   "the either the" needs to be fixed.
> >
> >   Suggest you spell ou the real names of the YANG modules you refer
> >   to (s/subscribed-notifications.yang
> >   model/"ietf-subscribed-notifications" YANG module/  etc)
> >
> > <ALEX> Done.  (s/within the either the/in the/ and spelled out the
> > names of the YANG modules) <ALEX>
> >
> > o  Section A.1
> >
> >   I don't think this document should repeat what's already specified
> >   in the SN draft.  Specifically, I think this section should list
> >   the *additional* errors that this document introduces.  I also note
> >   that the list in this document is not the same as in the SN draft...
> >
> >   So I suggest:
> >
> >   OLD:
> >
> >    establish-subscription         modify-subscription
> >    ----------------------         -------------------
> >     cant-exclude                   sn:filter-unsupported
> >     datastore-not-subscribable     sn:insufficient-resources
> >     sn:dscp-unavailable            sn:no-such-subscription
> >     sn:filter-unsupported          period-unsupported
> >     sn:insufficient-resources      update-too-big
> >     on-change-unsupported          sync-too-big
> >     on-change-sync-unsupported     unchanging-selection
> >     period-unsupported
> >     update-too-big                resync-subscription
> >     sync-too-big                  --------------------
> >     unchanging-selection           no-such-subscription-resync
> >                                    sync-too-big
> >
> >    delete-subscription            kill-subscription
> >    ----------------------         -----------------
> >     sn:no-such-subscription        sn:no-such-subscription
> >
> >   NEW:
> >
> >    establish-subscription         modify-subscription
> >    ----------------------         -------------------
> >     cant-exclude                   period-unsupported
> >     datastore-not-subscribable     update-too-big
> >     on-change-unsupported          sync-too-big
> >     on-change-sync-unsupported     unchanging-selection
> >     period-unsupported
> >     update-too-big                resync-subscription
> >     sync-too-big                  --------------------
> >     unchanging-selection           no-such-subscription-resync
> >                                    sync-too-big
> >
> > <ALEX>Done, and changed the introductory paragraph accordingly.
> > </ALEX>
> >
> >
> > o  Section A.2
> >
> >   Similar to A.1, suggest you remove the sn: errors that are already
> >   covered by SN.
> >
> > <ALEX> Done, with corresponding changes to the introductory paragraph.
> > </ALEX>
> >
> >
> > /martin
> >
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Mahesh,

can we assume that this edit is accepted and we can resume the AUTH48
process?

/js

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:54:54AM -0800, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
> NETCONF WG,
> 
> During the AUTH48 review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08, the authors found a couple of things that needed further clarification. The edits are reflected in this e-mail using OLD: and NEW:. Since the changes are technical changes, we needed to make sure that the WG was ok with the changes. This starts a one week review period terminating next Tuesday, February 5 to provide any comments you might have. If providing comments, please be specific in the changes you would like to see, preferably using your own OLD: and NEW:. If no comments are received, it will be deemed that the changes are fine with the WG. The two set of changes are in the YANG model itself, and in Section 3.1.1.4.
> 
> In the YANG model:
> 
> OLD:
> 
>         choice origin-filters {
>           when 'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';
>           if-feature "origin";
>           description
>             "Filters based on the 'origin' annotation.";
>           leaf-list origin-filter {
>             type or:origin-ref;
>             description
>               "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A node matches
>                the filter if its 'origin' annotation is derived from or
>                equal to any of the given filter values.";
>           }
>           leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>             type or:origin-ref;
>             description
>               "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A node matches
>                the filter if its 'origin' annotation is not derived
>                from and not equal to any of the given filter values.";
>           }
>         }
> 
> NEW:
> 
>         choice origin-filters {
>           when 'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';
>           if-feature origin;
>           description
>             "Filters configuration nodes based on the 'origin'
>              annotation.  Configuration nodes that do not have an
>              'origin' annotation are treated as if they have the
>              'origin' annotation 'or:unknown'.
> 
>              System state nodes are not affected by origin-filters and
>              thus not filtered.  Note that system state nodes can be
>              filtered with the 'config-filter' leaf.";
> 
>           leaf-list origin-filter {
>             type or:origin-ref;
>             description
>               "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>                configuration node matches the filter if its 'origin'
>                annotation is derived from or equal to any of the given
>                filter values.";
>           }
>           leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>             type or:origin-ref;
>             description
>               "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>                configuration node matches the filter if its 'origin'
>                annotation is not derived from and not equal to any of
>                the given filter values.";
>           }
>         }
> 
> OLD:
> 
>         leaf config-filter {
>           type boolean;
>           description
>             "Filter for nodes with the given value for their
>              'config' property.  If this leaf is not present, all
>              nodes are selected.
> 
>              For example, when this leaf is set to 'true', only 'config
>              true' nodes are selected.";
>         }
> 
> NEW:
> 
>         leaf config-filter {
>           type boolean;
>           description
>             "Filter for nodes with the given value for their 'config'
>              property.  When this leaf is set to 'true', only 'config
>              true' nodes are selected and, when set to â€˜falseâ€™, only
>              â€˜config falseâ€™ nodes are selected.  If this leaf is not
>              present, no nodes are filtered.";
>         }
> 
> Add the following example to 3.1.1.4:
> 
>     In order to not retrieve any system state nodes, the
>     "config-filter" can be used:
> 
>     <rpc message-id="103"
>          xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>       <get-data xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda"
>                 xmlns:ds="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores"
>                 xmlns:or="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin">
>         <datastore>ds:operational</datastore>
>         <subtree-filter>
>           <bgp xmlns="http://example.com/ns/bgp <http://example.com/ns/bgp>"/>
>         </subtree-filter>
>         <config-filter>true</config-filter>
>         <origin-filter>or:intended</origin-filter>
>         <origin-filter>or:system</origin-filter>
>         <with-origin/>
>       </get-data>
>     </rpc>
> 
>     <rpc-reply message-id="103"
>                xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>       <data xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda">
>         <bgp xmlns="http://example.com/ns/bgp <http://example.com/ns/bgp>"
>              xmlns:or="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin"
>              or:origin="or:intended">
>           <peer>
>             <name>2001:db8::2:3</name>
>             <local-port or:origin="or:system">60794</local-port>
>           </peer>
>         </bgp>
>       </data>
>     </rpc-reply>
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Mahesh Jethanandani // as shepherd
> mjethanandani@gmail.com
> 
> 
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> On Feb 6, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder =
<j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
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> Mahesh,
>=20
> can we assume that this edit is accepted and we can resume the AUTH48
> process?

Yes.=20

This closes the one week review period. No comments were received on the =
further clarifications proposed by the authors. As such, we will now let =
the RFC Editor know to proceed with making the proposed changes.

Thanks.

>=20
> /js
>=20
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:54:54AM -0800, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
>> NETCONF WG,
>>=20
>> During the AUTH48 review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08, the =
authors found a couple of things that needed further clarification. The =
edits are reflected in this e-mail using OLD: and NEW:. Since the =
changes are technical changes, we needed to make sure that the WG was ok =
with the changes. This starts a one week review period terminating next =
Tuesday, February 5 to provide any comments you might have. If providing =
comments, please be specific in the changes you would like to see, =
preferably using your own OLD: and NEW:. If no comments are received, it =
will be deemed that the changes are fine with the WG. The two set of =
changes are in the YANG model itself, and in Section 3.1.1.4.
>>=20
>> In the YANG model:
>>=20
>> OLD:
>>=20
>>        choice origin-filters {
>>          when 'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';
>>          if-feature "origin";
>>          description
>>            "Filters based on the 'origin' annotation.";
>>          leaf-list origin-filter {
>>            type or:origin-ref;
>>            description
>>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A node =
matches
>>               the filter if its 'origin' annotation is derived from =
or
>>               equal to any of the given filter values.";
>>          }
>>          leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>>            type or:origin-ref;
>>            description
>>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A node =
matches
>>               the filter if its 'origin' annotation is not derived
>>               from and not equal to any of the given filter values.";
>>          }
>>        }
>>=20
>> NEW:
>>=20
>>        choice origin-filters {
>>          when 'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';
>>          if-feature origin;
>>          description
>>            "Filters configuration nodes based on the 'origin'
>>             annotation.  Configuration nodes that do not have an
>>             'origin' annotation are treated as if they have the
>>             'origin' annotation 'or:unknown'.
>>=20
>>             System state nodes are not affected by origin-filters and
>>             thus not filtered.  Note that system state nodes can be
>>             filtered with the 'config-filter' leaf.";
>>=20
>>          leaf-list origin-filter {
>>            type or:origin-ref;
>>            description
>>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>>               configuration node matches the filter if its 'origin'
>>               annotation is derived from or equal to any of the given
>>               filter values.";
>>          }
>>          leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>>            type or:origin-ref;
>>            description
>>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>>               configuration node matches the filter if its 'origin'
>>               annotation is not derived from and not equal to any of
>>               the given filter values.";
>>          }
>>        }
>>=20
>> OLD:
>>=20
>>        leaf config-filter {
>>          type boolean;
>>          description
>>            "Filter for nodes with the given value for their
>>             'config' property.  If this leaf is not present, all
>>             nodes are selected.
>>=20
>>             For example, when this leaf is set to 'true', only =
'config
>>             true' nodes are selected.";
>>        }
>>=20
>> NEW:
>>=20
>>        leaf config-filter {
>>          type boolean;
>>          description
>>            "Filter for nodes with the given value for their 'config'
>>             property.  When this leaf is set to 'true', only 'config
>>             true' nodes are selected and, when set to =E2=80=98false=E2=
=80=99, only
>>             =E2=80=98config false=E2=80=99 nodes are selected.  If =
this leaf is not
>>             present, no nodes are filtered.";
>>        }
>>=20
>> Add the following example to 3.1.1.4:
>>=20
>>    In order to not retrieve any system state nodes, the
>>    "config-filter" can be used:
>>=20
>>    <rpc message-id=3D"103"
>>         xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>>      <get-data xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda"
>>                xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores"=

>>                xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin">
>>        <datastore>ds:operational</datastore>
>>        <subtree-filter>
>>          <bgp xmlns=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp> <http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp>>"/>
>>        </subtree-filter>
>>        <config-filter>true</config-filter>
>>        <origin-filter>or:intended</origin-filter>
>>        <origin-filter>or:system</origin-filter>
>>        <with-origin/>
>>      </get-data>
>>    </rpc>
>>=20
>>    <rpc-reply message-id=3D"103"
>>               xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>>      <data xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda">
>>        <bgp xmlns=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp> <http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp>>"
>>             xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin"
>>             or:origin=3D"or:intended">
>>          <peer>
>>            <name>2001:db8::2:3</name>
>>            <local-port or:origin=3D"or:system">60794</local-port>
>>          </peer>
>>        </bgp>
>>      </data>
>>    </rpc-reply>
>>=20
>> Thanks.
>>=20
>> Mahesh Jethanandani // as shepherd
>> mjethanandani@gmail.com <mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com>
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
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>=20
> --=20
> Juergen Schoenwaelder           Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
> Phone: +49 421 200 3587         Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany
> Fax:   +49 421 200 3103         <https://www.jacobs-university.de/ =
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class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 6, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de" =
class=3D"">j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Mahesh,</span><br =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">can we assume that this edit is =
accepted and we can resume the AUTH48</span><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
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text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">process?</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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text-decoration: none;" class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>Yes.&nbsp;</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>This =
closes the one week review period. No comments were received on the =
further clarifications proposed by the authors. As such, we will now let =
the RFC Editor know to proceed with making the proposed =
changes.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
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style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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display: inline !important;" class=3D"">/js</span><br =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
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12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at =
10:54:54AM -0800, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
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widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">NETCONF=
 WG,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">During the AUTH48 review of =
draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08, the authors found a couple of things =
that needed further clarification. The edits are reflected in this =
e-mail using OLD: and NEW:. Since the changes are technical changes, we =
needed to make sure that the WG was ok with the changes. This starts a =
one week review period terminating next Tuesday, February 5 to provide =
any comments you might have. If providing comments, please be specific =
in the changes you would like to see, preferably using your own OLD: and =
NEW:. If no comments are received, it will be deemed that the changes =
are fine with the WG. The two set of changes are in the YANG model =
itself, and in Section 3.1.1.4.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">In the YANG =
model:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">OLD:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;choice =
origin-filters {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;when =
'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if-featur=
e "origin";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filters based on the 'origin' annotation.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A node =
matches<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the filter if its 'origin' annotation is derived =
from or<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;equal to any of the given filter values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 negated-origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A node =
matches<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the filter if its 'origin' annotation is not =
derived<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;from and not equal to any of the given filter =
values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">NEW:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;choice =
origin-filters {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;when =
'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if-featur=
e origin;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filters configuration nodes based on the 'origin'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;annotation. &nbsp;Configuration nodes that do not have an<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;'origin' annotation are treated as if they have the<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;'origin' annotation 'or:unknown'.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;System state nodes are not affected by origin-filters and<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;thus not filtered. &nbsp;Note that system state nodes can be<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;filtered with the 'config-filter' leaf.";<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;configuration node matches the filter if its =
'origin'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;annotation is derived from or equal to any of the =
given<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;filter values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 negated-origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;configuration node matches the filter if its =
'origin'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;annotation is not derived from and not equal to any =
of<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the given filter values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">OLD:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf config-filter =
{<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;type=
 boolean;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filter for nodes with the given value for their<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;'config' property. &nbsp;If this leaf is not present, all<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;nodes are selected.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;For example, when this leaf is set to 'true', only 'config<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;true' nodes are selected.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">NEW:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf config-filter =
{<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;type=
 boolean;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filter for nodes with the given value for their 'config'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;property. &nbsp;When this leaf is set to 'true', only =
'config<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;true' nodes are selected and, when set to =E2=80=98false=E2=80=99=
, only<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;=E2=80=98config false=E2=80=99 nodes are selected. &nbsp;If =
this leaf is not<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;present, no nodes are filtered.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Add the following example to 3.1.1.4:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In order to not retrieve any system state =
nodes, the<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"config-filter" can be =
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href=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp" =
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t;<br =
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class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0"&gt;=
<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;data =
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class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;bgp xmlns=3D"<a =
href=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp" =
class=3D"">http://example.com/ns/bgp</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&lt;<a =
href=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp" =
class=3D"">http://example.com/ns/bgp</a>&gt;"<br =
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sp;&nbsp;xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin"<br =
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gt;<br =
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class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&lt;local-port or:origin=3D"or:system"&gt;60794&lt;/local-port&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/peer=
&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/bgp&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/data&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/rpc-reply&gt;<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thanks.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Mahesh Jethanandani // =
as shepherd<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">mjethanandani@gmail.com</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Juergen Schoenwaelder =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Jacobs =
University Bremen gGmbH</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
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class=3D"">Phone: +49 421 200 3587 =
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class=3D"">Fax: &nbsp;&nbsp;+49 421 200 3103 =
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Authors of the draft,

Do we want to accept or reject this late comment?

> On Feb 6, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Rohit R Ranade <rohitrranade@huawei.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> >           leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
> >             type or:origin-ref;
> >             description
> >               "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
> >                configuration node matches the filter if its 'origin'
> >                annotation is not derived from and not equal to any =
of
> >                the given filter values.";
> >           }
> =20
> =20
> Sorry for the late comment.  I think this should be =E2=80=9Cneither =
derived-from nor equal to any of the given filter values=E2=80=9D
> =20
> I think if it is derived-from but not matching the filter value, this =
filter should apply.
> =20
> With Regards,
> Rohit
> =20
> From: netconf [mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mahesh =
Jethanandani
> Sent: 07 February 2019 03:46
> To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
> Cc: Netconf <netconf@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [netconf] AUTH48 changes to RFC 8526 =
<draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08>
> =20
> =20
>=20
>=20
> On Feb 6, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder =
<j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de =
<mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>> wrote:
> =20
> Mahesh,
>=20
> can we assume that this edit is accepted and we can resume the AUTH48
> process?
> =20
> Yes.=20
> =20
> This closes the one week review period. No comments were received on =
the further clarifications proposed by the authors. As such, we will now =
let the RFC Editor know to proceed with making the proposed changes.
> =20
> Thanks.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> /js
>=20
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:54:54AM -0800, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
>=20
> NETCONF WG,
>=20
> During the AUTH48 review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08, the =
authors found a couple of things that needed further clarification. The =
edits are reflected in this e-mail using OLD: and NEW:. Since the =
changes are technical changes, we needed to make sure that the WG was ok =
with the changes. This starts a one week review period terminating next =
Tuesday, February 5 to provide any comments you might have. If providing =
comments, please be specific in the changes you would like to see, =
preferably using your own OLD: and NEW:. If no comments are received, it =
will be deemed that the changes are fine with the WG. The two set of =
changes are in the YANG model itself, and in Section 3.1.1.4.
>=20
> In the YANG model:
>=20
> OLD:
>=20
>        choice origin-filters {
>          when 'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';
>          if-feature "origin";
>          description
>            "Filters based on the 'origin' annotation.";
>          leaf-list origin-filter {
>            type or:origin-ref;
>            description
>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A node matches
>               the filter if its 'origin' annotation is derived from or
>               equal to any of the given filter values.";
>          }
>          leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>            type or:origin-ref;
>            description
>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A node matches
>               the filter if its 'origin' annotation is not derived
>               from and not equal to any of the given filter values.";
>          }
>        }
>=20
> NEW:
>=20
>        choice origin-filters {
>          when 'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';
>          if-feature origin;
>          description
>            "Filters configuration nodes based on the 'origin'
>             annotation.  Configuration nodes that do not have an
>             'origin' annotation are treated as if they have the
>             'origin' annotation 'or:unknown'.
>=20
>             System state nodes are not affected by origin-filters and
>             thus not filtered.  Note that system state nodes can be
>             filtered with the 'config-filter' leaf.";
>=20
>          leaf-list origin-filter {
>            type or:origin-ref;
>            description
>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>               configuration node matches the filter if its 'origin'
>               annotation is derived from or equal to any of the given
>               filter values.";
>          }
>          leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>            type or:origin-ref;
>            description
>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>               configuration node matches the filter if its 'origin'
>               annotation is not derived from and not equal to any of
>               the given filter values.";
>          }
>        }
>=20
> OLD:
>=20
>        leaf config-filter {
>          type boolean;
>          description
>            "Filter for nodes with the given value for their
>             'config' property.  If this leaf is not present, all
>             nodes are selected.
>=20
>             For example, when this leaf is set to 'true', only 'config
>             true' nodes are selected.";
>        }
>=20
> NEW:
>=20
>        leaf config-filter {
>          type boolean;
>          description
>            "Filter for nodes with the given value for their 'config'
>             property.  When this leaf is set to 'true', only 'config
>             true' nodes are selected and, when set to =E2=80=98false=E2=80=
=99, only
>             =E2=80=98config false=E2=80=99 nodes are selected.  If =
this leaf is not
>             present, no nodes are filtered.";
>        }
>=20
> Add the following example to 3.1.1.4:
>=20
>    In order to not retrieve any system state nodes, the
>    "config-filter" can be used:
>=20
>    <rpc message-id=3D"103"
>         xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>      <get-data xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda"
>                xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores"
>                xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin">
>        <datastore>ds:operational</datastore>
>        <subtree-filter>
>          <bgp xmlns=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp> <http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp>>"/>
>        </subtree-filter>
>        <config-filter>true</config-filter>
>        <origin-filter>or:intended</origin-filter>
>        <origin-filter>or:system</origin-filter>
>        <with-origin/>
>      </get-data>
>    </rpc>
>=20
>    <rpc-reply message-id=3D"103"
>               xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>      <data xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda">
>        <bgp xmlns=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp> <http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp>>"
>             xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin"
>             or:origin=3D"or:intended">
>          <peer>
>            <name>2001:db8::2:3</name>
>            <local-port or:origin=3D"or:system">60794</local-port>
>          </peer>
>        </bgp>
>      </data>
>    </rpc-reply>
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
> Mahesh Jethanandani // as shepherd
> mjethanandani@gmail.com <mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com>
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
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> --=20
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> Phone: +49 421 200 3587         Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany
> Fax:   +49 421 200 3103         <https://www.jacobs-university.de/ =
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> =20
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0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; leaf-list negated-origin-filter {<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div=
 style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; type or:origin-ref;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; description<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Filter based on the 'origin' =
annotation.&nbsp; A<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; configuration node matches the filter if =
its 'origin'<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; annotation is not derived from and not =
equal to any of<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the given filter values.";<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; }<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Sorry for the late comment. &nbsp;I think this should be =
=E2=80=9C</span><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">neither</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>derived-from<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">nor</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>equal to any of the given =
filter values</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);" class=3D"">=E2=80=9D<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">I think if it is derived-from but not matching the filter =
value, this filter should apply.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">With Regards,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Rohit<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div=
 style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>netconf =
[<a href=3D"mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Mahesh =
Jethanandani<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>07 February 2019 03:46<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Juergen Schoenwaelder =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de" =
class=3D"">j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Netconf &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:netconf@ietf.org" class=3D"">netconf@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [netconf] AUTH48 =
changes to RFC 8526 &lt;draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08&gt;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">On Feb 6, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Mahesh,<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">can we assume that this edit is accepted and we can resume =
the AUTH48<br class=3D"">process?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></blockquote><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">Yes.&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">This closes the one week review period. No comments were =
received on the further clarifications proposed by the authors. As such, =
we will now let the RFC Editor know to proceed with making the proposed =
changes.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">Thanks.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><br class=3D"">/js<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:54:54AM -0800, Mahesh Jethanandani =
wrote:<br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; =
text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">NETCONF WG,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">During =
the AUTH48 review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08, the authors =
found a couple of things that needed further clarification. The edits =
are reflected in this e-mail using OLD: and NEW:. Since the changes are =
technical changes, we needed to make sure that the WG was ok with the =
changes. This starts a one week review period terminating next Tuesday, =
February 5 to provide any comments you might have. If providing =
comments, please be specific in the changes you would like to see, =
preferably using your own OLD: and NEW:. If no comments are received, it =
will be deemed that the changes are fine with the WG. The two set of =
changes are in the YANG model itself, and in Section 3.1.1.4.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">In the YANG model:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">OLD:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;choice =
origin-filters {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;when =
'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if-featur=
e "origin";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filters based on the 'origin' annotation.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A node =
matches<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the filter if its 'origin' annotation is derived =
from or<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;equal to any of the given filter values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 negated-origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A node =
matches<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the filter if its 'origin' annotation is not =
derived<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;from and not equal to any of the given filter =
values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">NEW:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;choice =
origin-filters {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;when =
'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if-featur=
e origin;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filters configuration nodes based on the 'origin'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;annotation. &nbsp;Configuration nodes that do not have an<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;'origin' annotation are treated as if they have the<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;'origin' annotation 'or:unknown'.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;System state nodes are not affected by origin-filters and<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;thus not filtered. &nbsp;Note that system state nodes can be<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;filtered with the 'config-filter' leaf.";<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;configuration node matches the filter if its =
'origin'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;annotation is derived from or equal to any of the =
given<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;filter values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 negated-origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;configuration node matches the filter if its =
'origin'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;annotation is not derived from and not equal to any =
of<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the given filter values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">OLD:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf config-filter =
{<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;type=
 boolean;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filter for nodes with the given value for their<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;'config' property. &nbsp;If this leaf is not present, all<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;nodes are selected.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;For example, when this leaf is set to 'true', only 'config<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;true' nodes are selected.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">NEW:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf config-filter =
{<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;type=
 boolean;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filter for nodes with the given value for their 'config'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;property. &nbsp;When this leaf is set to 'true', only =
'config<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;true' nodes are selected and, when set to =E2=80=98false=E2=80=99=
, only<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;=E2=80=98config false=E2=80=99 nodes are selected. &nbsp;If =
this leaf is not<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;present, no nodes are filtered.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Add the following example to 3.1.1.4:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In order to not retrieve any system state =
nodes, the<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"config-filter" can be =
used:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;rpc =
message-id=3D"103"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;xmlns=3D"urn:ie=
tf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0"&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;get-data =
xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-da=
tastores"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-or=
igin"&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;datastore&gt;ds:o=
perational&lt;/datastore&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;subtree-filter&gt=
;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;bgp =
xmlns=3D"<a href=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">http://example.com/ns/bgp</a><span=
 class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&lt;<a =
href=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">http://example.com/ns/bgp</a>&gt;"/&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/subtree-filter&g=
t;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;config-filter&gt;=
true&lt;/config-filter&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;origin-filter&gt;=
or:intended&lt;/origin-filter&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;origin-filter&gt;=
or:system&lt;/origin-filter&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;with-origin/&gt;<=
br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/get-data&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/rpc&gt;<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;rpc-reply message-id=3D"103"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0"&gt;=
<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;data =
xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda"&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;bgp xmlns=3D"<a =
href=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">http://example.com/ns/bgp</a><span=
 class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&lt;<a =
href=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">http://example.com/ns/bgp</a>&gt;"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;or:origin=3D"or:intended"&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;peer&=
gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&lt;name&gt;2001:db8::2:3&lt;/name&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&lt;local-port or:origin=3D"or:system"&gt;60794&lt;/local-port&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/peer=
&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/bgp&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/data&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/rpc-reply&gt;<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thanks.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Mahesh Jethanandani // =
as shepherd<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
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These are semantically identical statements. =20
Let=E2=80=99s ask the RFC Editor for their opinion. =20
FWIW, I prefer Rohit=E2=80=99s suggested replacement.

Kent // as co-author



> On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani =
<mjethanandani@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Authors of the draft,
>=20
> Do we want to accept or reject this late comment?
>=20
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Rohit R Ranade <rohitrranade@huawei.com =
<mailto:rohitrranade@huawei.com>> wrote:
>>=20
>> >           leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>> >             type or:origin-ref;
>> >             description
>> >               "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>> >                configuration node matches the filter if its =
'origin'
>> >                annotation is not derived from and not equal to any =
of
>> >                the given filter values.";
>> >           }
>> =20
>> =20
>> Sorry for the late comment.  I think this should be =E2=80=9Cneither =
derived-from nor equal to any of the given filter values=E2=80=9D
>> =20
>> I think if it is derived-from but not matching the filter value, this =
filter should apply.
>> =20
>> With Regards,
>> Rohit
>> =20
>> From: netconf [mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org =
<mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Mahesh Jethanandani
>> Sent: 07 February 2019 03:46
>> To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de =
<mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>>
>> Cc: Netconf <netconf@ietf.org <mailto:netconf@ietf.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [netconf] AUTH48 changes to RFC 8526 =
<draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08>
>> =20
>> =20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder =
<j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de =
<mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>> wrote:
>> =20
>> Mahesh,
>>=20
>> can we assume that this edit is accepted and we can resume the AUTH48
>> process?
>> =20
>> Yes.=20
>> =20
>> This closes the one week review period. No comments were received on =
the further clarifications proposed by the authors. As such, we will now =
let the RFC Editor know to proceed with making the proposed changes.
>> =20
>> Thanks.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> /js
>>=20
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:54:54AM -0800, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
>>=20
>> NETCONF WG,
>>=20
>> During the AUTH48 review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08, the =
authors found a couple of things that needed further clarification. The =
edits are reflected in this e-mail using OLD: and NEW:. Since the =
changes are technical changes, we needed to make sure that the WG was ok =
with the changes. This starts a one week review period terminating next =
Tuesday, February 5 to provide any comments you might have. If providing =
comments, please be specific in the changes you would like to see, =
preferably using your own OLD: and NEW:. If no comments are received, it =
will be deemed that the changes are fine with the WG. The two set of =
changes are in the YANG model itself, and in Section 3.1.1.4.
>>=20
>> In the YANG model:
>>=20
>> OLD:
>>=20
>>        choice origin-filters {
>>          when 'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';
>>          if-feature "origin";
>>          description
>>            "Filters based on the 'origin' annotation.";
>>          leaf-list origin-filter {
>>            type or:origin-ref;
>>            description
>>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A node =
matches
>>               the filter if its 'origin' annotation is derived from =
or
>>               equal to any of the given filter values.";
>>          }
>>          leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>>            type or:origin-ref;
>>            description
>>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A node =
matches
>>               the filter if its 'origin' annotation is not derived
>>               from and not equal to any of the given filter values.";
>>          }
>>        }
>>=20
>> NEW:
>>=20
>>        choice origin-filters {
>>          when 'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';
>>          if-feature origin;
>>          description
>>            "Filters configuration nodes based on the 'origin'
>>             annotation.  Configuration nodes that do not have an
>>             'origin' annotation are treated as if they have the
>>             'origin' annotation 'or:unknown'.
>>=20
>>             System state nodes are not affected by origin-filters and
>>             thus not filtered.  Note that system state nodes can be
>>             filtered with the 'config-filter' leaf.";
>>=20
>>          leaf-list origin-filter {
>>            type or:origin-ref;
>>            description
>>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>>               configuration node matches the filter if its 'origin'
>>               annotation is derived from or equal to any of the given
>>               filter values.";
>>          }
>>          leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>>            type or:origin-ref;
>>            description
>>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>>               configuration node matches the filter if its 'origin'
>>               annotation is not derived from and not equal to any of
>>               the given filter values.";
>>          }
>>        }
>>=20
>> OLD:
>>=20
>>        leaf config-filter {
>>          type boolean;
>>          description
>>            "Filter for nodes with the given value for their
>>             'config' property.  If this leaf is not present, all
>>             nodes are selected.
>>=20
>>             For example, when this leaf is set to 'true', only =
'config
>>             true' nodes are selected.";
>>        }
>>=20
>> NEW:
>>=20
>>        leaf config-filter {
>>          type boolean;
>>          description
>>            "Filter for nodes with the given value for their 'config'
>>             property.  When this leaf is set to 'true', only 'config
>>             true' nodes are selected and, when set to =E2=80=98false=E2=
=80=99, only
>>             =E2=80=98config false=E2=80=99 nodes are selected.  If =
this leaf is not
>>             present, no nodes are filtered.";
>>        }
>>=20
>> Add the following example to 3.1.1.4:
>>=20
>>    In order to not retrieve any system state nodes, the
>>    "config-filter" can be used:
>>=20
>>    <rpc message-id=3D"103"
>>         xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>>      <get-data xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda"
>>                xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores"=

>>                xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin">
>>        <datastore>ds:operational</datastore>
>>        <subtree-filter>
>>          <bgp xmlns=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp> <http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp>>"/>
>>        </subtree-filter>
>>        <config-filter>true</config-filter>
>>        <origin-filter>or:intended</origin-filter>
>>        <origin-filter>or:system</origin-filter>
>>        <with-origin/>
>>      </get-data>
>>    </rpc>
>>=20
>>    <rpc-reply message-id=3D"103"
>>               xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>>      <data xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda">
>>        <bgp xmlns=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp> <http://example.com/ns/bgp =
<http://example.com/ns/bgp>>"
>>             xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin"
>>             or:origin=3D"or:intended">
>>          <peer>
>>            <name>2001:db8::2:3</name>
>>            <local-port or:origin=3D"or:system">60794</local-port>
>>          </peer>
>>        </bgp>
>>      </data>
>>    </rpc-reply>
>>=20
>> Thanks.
>>=20
>> Mahesh Jethanandani // as shepherd
>> mjethanandani@gmail.com <mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com>
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>These are semantically identical =
statements. &nbsp;<div class=3D"">Let=E2=80=99s ask the RFC Editor for =
their opinion. &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">FWIW, I prefer Rohit=E2=80=99s =
suggested replacement.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Kent // as co-author</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb =
7, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">mjethanandani@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Authors of the draft,</span><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;">Do we want to accept or reject this late =
comment?<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Feb 6, 2019, at 6:06 PM, =
Rohit R Ranade &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rohitrranade@huawei.com" =
class=3D"">rohitrranade@huawei.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; leaf-list negated-origin-filter {<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div=
 class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; type or:origin-ref;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; description<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Filter based on the 'origin' =
annotation.&nbsp; A<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; configuration node matches the filter if =
its 'origin'<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; annotation is not derived from and not =
equal to any of<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the given filter values.";<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; }<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);">Sorry for the late comment. &nbsp;I think this should be =
=E2=80=9C</span><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">neither</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>derived-from<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">nor</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>equal to any of the given =
filter values</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" style=3D"color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);">=E2=80=9D<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" =
style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);">I think if it is derived-from but not matching the filter value, =
this filter should apply.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" =
style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);">With Regards,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" style=3D"color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);">Rohit<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D""=
 style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: =
10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>netconf [<a =
href=3D"mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Mahesh =
Jethanandani<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>07 February 2019 03:46<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Juergen Schoenwaelder =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de" =
class=3D"">j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Netconf &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:netconf@ietf.org" class=3D"">netconf@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [netconf] AUTH48 =
changes to RFC 8526 &lt;draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08&gt;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin:=
 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><blockquote class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">On Feb =
6, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de" class=3D"" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;">j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">Mahesh,<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">can we assume that this edit is accepted and =
we can resume the AUTH48<br class=3D"">process?</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
 class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></blockquote><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Yes.&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">This closes the one =
week review period. No comments were received on the further =
clarifications proposed by the authors. As such, we will now let the RFC =
Editor know to proceed with making the proposed changes.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Thanks.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
=E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><blockquote class=3D"" =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br =
class=3D"">/js<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at =
10:54:54AM -0800, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:<br class=3D"" =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-caps: normal; =
text-align: start; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: =
0px;"><br class=3D""></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><blockquote class=3D"" style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =E5=AE=8B=E4=BD=93;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif;">NETCONF WG,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">During =
the AUTH48 review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08, the authors =
found a couple of things that needed further clarification. The edits =
are reflected in this e-mail using OLD: and NEW:. Since the changes are =
technical changes, we needed to make sure that the WG was ok with the =
changes. This starts a one week review period terminating next Tuesday, =
February 5 to provide any comments you might have. If providing =
comments, please be specific in the changes you would like to see, =
preferably using your own OLD: and NEW:. If no comments are received, it =
will be deemed that the changes are fine with the WG. The two set of =
changes are in the YANG model itself, and in Section 3.1.1.4.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">In the YANG model:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">OLD:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;choice =
origin-filters {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;when =
'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if-featur=
e "origin";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filters based on the 'origin' annotation.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A node =
matches<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the filter if its 'origin' annotation is derived =
from or<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;equal to any of the given filter values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 negated-origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A node =
matches<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the filter if its 'origin' annotation is not =
derived<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;from and not equal to any of the given filter =
values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">NEW:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;choice =
origin-filters {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;when =
'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;if-featur=
e origin;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filters configuration nodes based on the 'origin'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;annotation. &nbsp;Configuration nodes that do not have an<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;'origin' annotation are treated as if they have the<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;'origin' annotation 'or:unknown'.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;System state nodes are not affected by origin-filters and<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;thus not filtered. &nbsp;Note that system state nodes can be<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;filtered with the 'config-filter' leaf.";<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;configuration node matches the filter if its =
'origin'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;annotation is derived from or equal to any of the =
given<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;filter values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf-list=
 negated-origin-filter {<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;type or:origin-ref;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;description<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"Filter based on the 'origin' annotation. &nbsp;A<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;configuration node matches the filter if its =
'origin'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;annotation is not derived from and not equal to any =
of<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the given filter values.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">OLD:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf config-filter =
{<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;type=
 boolean;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filter for nodes with the given value for their<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;'config' property. &nbsp;If this leaf is not present, all<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;nodes are selected.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;For example, when this leaf is set to 'true', only 'config<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;true' nodes are selected.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">NEW:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;leaf config-filter =
{<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;type=
 boolean;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;descripti=
on<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;"Filter for nodes with the given value for their 'config'<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;property. &nbsp;When this leaf is set to 'true', only =
'config<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;true' nodes are selected and, when set to =E2=80=98false=E2=80=99=
, only<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;=E2=80=98config false=E2=80=99 nodes are selected. &nbsp;If =
this leaf is not<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;present, no nodes are filtered.";<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;}<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Add the following example to 3.1.1.4:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;In order to not retrieve any system state =
nodes, the<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"config-filter" can be =
used:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;rpc =
message-id=3D"103"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;xmlns=3D"urn:ie=
tf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0"&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;get-data =
xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-da=
tastores"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-or=
igin"&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;datastore&gt;ds:o=
perational&lt;/datastore&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;subtree-filter&gt=
;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;bgp =
xmlns=3D"<a href=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp" class=3D"" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://example.com/ns/bgp</a><span =
class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&lt;<a =
href=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp" class=3D"" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;">http://example.com/ns/bgp</a>&gt;"/&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/subtree-filter&g=
t;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;config-filter&gt;=
true&lt;/config-filter&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;origin-filter&gt;=
or:intended&lt;/origin-filter&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;origin-filter&gt;=
or:system&lt;/origin-filter&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;with-origin/&gt;<=
br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/get-data&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/rpc&gt;<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;rpc-reply message-id=3D"103"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0"&gt;=
<br class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;data =
xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda"&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;bgp xmlns=3D"<a =
href=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp" class=3D"" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;">http://example.com/ns/bgp</a><span =
class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>&lt;<a =
href=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp" class=3D"" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;">http://example.com/ns/bgp</a>&gt;"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin"<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;or:origin=3D"or:intended"&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;peer&=
gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&lt;name&gt;2001:db8::2:3&lt;/name&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&lt;local-port or:origin=3D"or:system"&gt;60794&lt;/local-port&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/peer=
&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/bgp&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/data&gt;<br =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;/rpc-reply&gt;<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thanks.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Mahesh Jethanandani // =
as shepherd<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com" =
class=3D"" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
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Hi Tom,

Ack.   Actually, I wrote a similar thing to Mahesh last night after =
sending my message to the list.   The English may be more correct with =
Rohit suggestion but, as you say, it is a little less mechanical and may =
confuse some.   That said, while =E2=80=9Cnor=E2=80=9D is somewhat =
uncommon, =E2=80=9Cneither=E2=80=9D is widely used and (I think) hard to =
misinterpret.   I=E2=80=99m still of the opinion that we should leave it =
to the RFC Editor at this point.

Kent



> On Feb 8, 2019, at 11:40 AM, tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> wrote:
>=20
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kent Watsen" <kent@watsen.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 1:47 AM
>=20
> These are semantically identical statements.
> Let=E2=80=99s ask the RFC Editor for their opinion.
> FWIW, I prefer Rohit=E2=80=99s suggested replacement.
>=20
> <tp>
>=20
> I find the original formulation much clearer. I can rewrite it as
>=20
> match if
> origin NOT derived from filter
> AND
> origin NOT equal to filter
>=20
> so if cable is derived from ADSL, then I can slot in the values and =
get
>=20
> filter cable
> origin ADSL
> ADSL NOT derived from cable true
> AND
> ADSL NOT equal to cable true
> i.e. true
>=20
> filter ADSL
> origin cable
> cable NOT derived from ADSL false
> AND
> cable NOT equal to ADSL true
> i.e. false
>=20
> which I find clear ( and I assume is what you intend).
>=20
> With neither ..  nor, I cannot do that, or not as straightforwardly, =
and
> so find unclear.
>=20
> Tom Petch
>=20
> Kent // as co-author
>=20
>> On Feb 7, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani
> <mjethanandani@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> Authors of the draft,
>>=20
>> Do we want to accept or reject this late comment?
>>=20
>>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 6:06 PM, Rohit R Ranade <rohitrranade@huawei.com
> <mailto:rohitrranade@huawei.com>> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>>          leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>>>>            type or:origin-ref;
>>>>            description
>>>>              "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>>>>               configuration node matches the filter if its
> 'origin'
>>>>               annotation is not derived from and not equal to any
> of
>>>>               the given filter values.";
>>>>          }
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Sorry for the late comment.  I think this should be =E2=80=9Cneither
> derived-from nor equal to any of the given filter values=E2=80=9D
>>>=20
>>> I think if it is derived-from but not matching the filter value, =
this
> filter should apply.
>>>=20
>>> With Regards,
>>> Rohit
>>>=20
>>> From: netconf [mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org
> <mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org>] On Behalf Of Mahesh Jethanandani
>>> Sent: 07 February 2019 03:46
>>> To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de
> <mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>>
>>> Cc: Netconf <netconf@ietf.org <mailto:netconf@ietf.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [netconf] AUTH48 changes to RFC 8526
> <draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08>
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Feb 6, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder
> <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de
> <mailto:j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Mahesh,
>>>=20
>>> can we assume that this edit is accepted and we can resume the =
AUTH48
>>> process?
>>>=20
>>> Yes.
>>>=20
>>> This closes the one week review period. No comments were received on
> the further clarifications proposed by the authors. As such, we will =
now
> let the RFC Editor know to proceed with making the proposed changes.
>>>=20
>>> Thanks.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> /js
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 10:54:54AM -0800, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote:
>>>=20
>>> NETCONF WG,
>>>=20
>>> During the AUTH48 review of draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-08, the
> authors found a couple of things that needed further clarification. =
The
> edits are reflected in this e-mail using OLD: and NEW:. Since the
> changes are technical changes, we needed to make sure that the WG was =
ok
> with the changes. This starts a one week review period terminating =
next
> Tuesday, February 5 to provide any comments you might have. If =
providing
> comments, please be specific in the changes you would like to see,
> preferably using your own OLD: and NEW:. If no comments are received, =
it
> will be deemed that the changes are fine with the WG. The two set of
> changes are in the YANG model itself, and in Section 3.1.1.4.
>>>=20
>>> In the YANG model:
>>>=20
>>> OLD:
>>>=20
>>>       choice origin-filters {
>>>         when 'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';
>>>         if-feature "origin";
>>>         description
>>>           "Filters based on the 'origin' annotation.";
>>>         leaf-list origin-filter {
>>>           type or:origin-ref;
>>>           description
>>>             "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A node
> matches
>>>              the filter if its 'origin' annotation is derived from
> or
>>>              equal to any of the given filter values.";
>>>         }
>>>         leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>>>           type or:origin-ref;
>>>           description
>>>             "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A node
> matches
>>>              the filter if its 'origin' annotation is not derived
>>>              from and not equal to any of the given filter values.";
>>>         }
>>>       }
>>>=20
>>> NEW:
>>>=20
>>>       choice origin-filters {
>>>         when 'derived-from-or-self(datastore, "ds:operational")';
>>>         if-feature origin;
>>>         description
>>>           "Filters configuration nodes based on the 'origin'
>>>            annotation.  Configuration nodes that do not have an
>>>            'origin' annotation are treated as if they have the
>>>            'origin' annotation 'or:unknown'.
>>>=20
>>>            System state nodes are not affected by origin-filters and
>>>            thus not filtered.  Note that system state nodes can be
>>>            filtered with the 'config-filter' leaf.";
>>>=20
>>>         leaf-list origin-filter {
>>>           type or:origin-ref;
>>>           description
>>>             "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>>>              configuration node matches the filter if its 'origin'
>>>              annotation is derived from or equal to any of the given
>>>              filter values.";
>>>         }
>>>         leaf-list negated-origin-filter {
>>>           type or:origin-ref;
>>>           description
>>>             "Filter based on the 'origin' annotation.  A
>>>              configuration node matches the filter if its 'origin'
>>>              annotation is not derived from and not equal to any of
>>>              the given filter values.";
>>>         }
>>>       }
>>>=20
>>> OLD:
>>>=20
>>>       leaf config-filter {
>>>         type boolean;
>>>         description
>>>           "Filter for nodes with the given value for their
>>>            'config' property.  If this leaf is not present, all
>>>            nodes are selected.
>>>=20
>>>            For example, when this leaf is set to 'true', only
> 'config
>>>            true' nodes are selected.";
>>>       }
>>>=20
>>> NEW:
>>>=20
>>>       leaf config-filter {
>>>         type boolean;
>>>         description
>>>           "Filter for nodes with the given value for their 'config'
>>>            property.  When this leaf is set to 'true', only 'config
>>>            true' nodes are selected and, when set to =E2=80=98false=E2=
=80=99, only
>>>            =E2=80=98config false=E2=80=99 nodes are selected.  If =
this leaf is not
>>>            present, no nodes are filtered.";
>>>       }
>>>=20
>>> Add the following example to 3.1.1.4:
>>>=20
>>>   In order to not retrieve any system state nodes, the
>>>   "config-filter" can be used:
>>>=20
>>>   <rpc message-id=3D"103"
>>>        xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>>>     <get-data xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda"
>>>               xmlns:ds=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-datastores"=

>>>               xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin">
>>>       <datastore>ds:operational</datastore>
>>>       <subtree-filter>
>>>         <bgp xmlns=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp
> <http://example.com/ns/bgp> <http://example.com/ns/bgp
> <http://example.com/ns/bgp>>"/>
>>>       </subtree-filter>
>>>       <config-filter>true</config-filter>
>>>       <origin-filter>or:intended</origin-filter>
>>>       <origin-filter>or:system</origin-filter>
>>>       <with-origin/>
>>>     </get-data>
>>>   </rpc>
>>>=20
>>>   <rpc-reply message-id=3D"103"
>>>              xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:netconf:base:1.0">
>>>     <data xmlns=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-netconf-nmda">
>>>       <bgp xmlns=3D"http://example.com/ns/bgp
> <http://example.com/ns/bgp> <http://example.com/ns/bgp
> <http://example.com/ns/bgp>>"
>>>            xmlns:or=3D"urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-origin"
>>>            or:origin=3D"or:intended">
>>>         <peer>
>>>           <name>2001:db8::2:3</name>
>>>           <local-port or:origin=3D"or:system">60794</local-port>
>>>         </peer>
>>>       </bgp>
>>>     </data>
>>>   </rpc-reply>
>>>=20
>>> Thanks.
>>>=20
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>> Mahesh Jethanandani
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8040,
"RESTCONF Protocol".

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5633

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Type: Technical
Reported by: Qin WU <bill.wu@huawei.com>

Section: B.2.2.

Original Text
-------------
      PATCH /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\
          library/artist=Foo%20Fighters/album=Wasting%20Light/\
          genre HTTP/1.1
      Host: example.com
      If-Unmodified-Since: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
      Content-Type: application/yang-data+json

      { "example-jukebox:genre" : "example-jukebox:alternative" }

   In this example, the datastore resource has changed since the time
   specified in the "If-Unmodified-Since" header.  The server might
   respond as follows:

      HTTP/1.1 412 Precondition Failed
      Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
      Server: example-server
      Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:41:00 GMT
      ETag: "b34aed893a4c"


Corrected Text
--------------
      PATCH /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\
          library/artist=Foo%20Fighters/album=Wasting%20Light/\
          genre HTTP/1.1
      Host: example.com
      If-Unmodified-Since: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
      Content-Type: application/yang-data+json

      { "example-jukebox:genre" : "example-jukebox:alternative" }

   In this example, the datastore resource has changed since the time
   specified in the "If-Unmodified-Since" header.  The server might
   respond as follows:

      HTTP/1.1 412 Precondition Failed
      Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
      Server: example-server
      Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:57:10 GMT
      ETag: "b34aed893a4c"


Notes
-----
The date in the Last-Modified field of the response HTTP header should be greater than the date in the If-Unmodified-Since field of the request HTTP header.

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RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)
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Title               : RESTCONF Protocol
Publication Date    : January 2017
Author(s)           : A. Bierman, M. Bjorklund, K. Watsen
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Network Configuration
Area                : Operations and Management
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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Hi All,

Editorial:

1.       "resynch-subscription" is used in 4 places with an additional 'h' =
after sync. It is "resync-subscription" in draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push-22

2.       Section 7  bullet 3, "this MAY but does not have to be included", =
can be replaced with just "optional" ?

3.       Section 7, bullet 4,  "section 2.4.6" link looks to be broken.

4.       Section 5 refers to many RPCs, but there is no reference to the do=
cuments which define these RPCs.

5.       Since there are many RPC names used, there are too many hyperlinks=
 pointing to their sources in the document. Whether we can have a separate =
section which provides the list of RPCs used in this draft and their source=
 document. The increase in hyperlinks leads to distraction while reading.


Technical:

1.       Section 3 "reply with the [RFC6241] error "operation-not-supported=
"". I think this should be an "<rpc-error> element is returned with an <err=
or-tag> value of "operation-not-supported". Similar occurrence in another p=
lace in same section.

2.       Is the intention that RFC5277 be implemented and then this draft b=
e supported on top of it ? I see that there are 7 references to RFC5277 , i=
ncluding definitions of <notification> and its encoding mechanism. Whether =
we can add a statement regarding this point ?

With Regards,
Rohit R

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Editorial:<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1=
.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">&#8220;resynch-subscrip=
tion&#8221; is used in 4 places with an additional &#8216;h&#8217; after sy=
nc. It is &#8220;resync-subscription&#8221; in draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push=
-22
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2=
.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 7&nbsp; bullet =
3, &#8220;this MAY but does not have to be included&#8221;, can be replaced=
 with just &#8220;optional&#8221; ?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3=
.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 7, bullet 4, &n=
bsp;&#8220;section 2.4.6&#8221; link looks to be broken.<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4=
.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 5 refers to man=
y RPCs, but there is no reference to the documents which define these RPCs.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">
<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">5=
.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">Since there are many RP=
C names used, there are too many hyperlinks pointing to their sources in th=
e document. Whether we can have a separate section which provides the list =
of RPCs used in this draft and their
 source document. The increase in hyperlinks leads to distraction while rea=
ding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Technical:<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">Section 3 &#8220;reply =
with the [RFC6241] error &quot;operation-not-supported&quot;&#8221;. I thin=
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">Is the intention that R=
FC5277 be implemented and then this draft be supported on top of it ? I see=
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 Whether we can add a statement regarding this point ?<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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Hi Rohit,

Thanks for looking through and commenting.  I am posting v17 which includes=
 the conclusion of the error-tag discussion from several weeks ago, as well=
 as some tweaks based on your comments below.

From: Rohit R Ranade, February 12, 2019 11:23 PM

Hi All,

Editorial:

1.       "resynch-subscription" is used in 4 places with an additional 'h' =
after sync. It is "resync-subscription" in draft-ietf-netconf-yang-push-22
<eric> fixed


2.       Section 7  bullet 3, "this MAY but does not have to be included", =
can be replaced with just "optional" ?
<eric> Either should work.  We might as well leave the current text.


3.       Section 7, bullet 4,  "section 2.4.6" link looks to be broken.
<eric> Why does this seem to be broken?  The list of identities is in draft=
-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications section 2.4.6.


4.       Section 5 refers to many RPCs, but there is no reference to the do=
cuments which define these RPCs.
<eric>  It seems excessive to me, as this entire document refers to [I-D.dr=
aft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications] and [I-D.ietf-netconf-yang-push]=
.  But to make it clear where the RPCs come from, I moved the following sen=
tence from the beginning of Section 7 to the beginning of Section 5.
Management of dynamic subscriptions occurs via RPCs as defined in [I-D.ietf=
-netconf-yang-push] and [I-D.draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications].



5.       Since there are many RPC names used, there are too many hyperlinks=
 pointing to their sources in the document. Whether we can have a separate =
section which provides the list of RPCs used in this draft and their source=
 document. The increase in hyperlinks leads to distraction while reading.
<eric> The links should be simplified once they collapse to RFC references.=
  At this point it would be great if the document is not be re-opened for n=
ew sections.


Technical:

1.       Section 3 "reply with the [RFC6241] error "operation-not-supported=
"". I think this should be an "<rpc-error> element is returned with an <err=
or-tag> value of "operation-not-supported". Similar occurrence in another p=
lace in same section.
<eric> I tweaked the text to:  A solution MUST reply with the [RFC6241] "rp=
c-error" element containing the "error-tag" value of "operation-not-support=
ed" if...


2.       Is the intention that RFC5277 be implemented and then this draft b=
e supported on top of it ? I see that there are 7 references to RFC5277 , i=
ncluding definitions of <notification> and its encoding mechanism. Whether =
we can add a statement regarding this point ?
<eric>  A section on this relationship is contained in Section 1.4 of draft=
-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications

Thanks,
Eric


With Regards,
Rohit R

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span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Thanks for looking =
through and commenting.&nbsp; I am posting v17 which includes the conclusio=
n of the error-tag discussion from several weeks ago, as well as some tweak=
s based on your comments below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Rohit R Ranade, February 12, 2019 11:23 PM<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Hi All,<o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Editorial=
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;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">&=
#8220;resynch-subscription&#8221; is used in 4 places with an additional &#=
8216;h&#8217; after sync. It is &#8220;resync-subscription&#8221; in draft-=
ietf-netconf-yang-push-22
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
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<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><span style=
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">S=
ection 7&nbsp; bullet 3, &#8220;this MAY but does not have to be included&#=
8221;, can be replaced with just &#8220;optional&#8221; ?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><span style=
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">S=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><span style=
=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">S=
ection 5 refers to many RPCs, but there is no reference to the documents wh=
ich define these RPCs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN">&lt;eric&gt;&nbsp; It seems excessive to me, as this entire documen=
t refers to [I-D.draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications] and [I-D.ietf=
-netconf-yang-push].&nbsp; But to make it clear where
 the RPCs come from, I moved the following sentence from the beginning of S=
ection 7 to the beginning of Section 5.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN">Management of dynamic subscriptions occurs via RPCs as defined in [=
I-D.ietf-netconf-yang-push] and [I-D.draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifica=
tions].<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><span style=
=3D"mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">S=
ince there are many RPC names used, there are too many hyperlinks pointing =
to their sources in the document. Whether we can have a separate section wh=
ich provides the list of RPCs used
 in this draft and their source document. The increase in hyperlinks leads =
to distraction while reading.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN">&lt;eric&gt; The links should be simplified once they collapse to R=
FC references.&nbsp; At this point it would be great if the document is not=
 be re-opened for new sections.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Technical=
:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><span style=
=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">S=
ection 3 &#8220;reply with the [RFC6241] error &quot;operation-not-supporte=
d&quot;&#8221;. I think this should be an &#8220;&lt;rpc-error&gt; element =
is returned with an &lt;error-tag&gt; value of &quot;operation-not-supporte=
d&quot;.
 Similar occurrence in another place in same section.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN">&lt;eric&gt; I tweaked the text to:&nbsp; A solution MUST reply wit=
h the [RFC6241] &quot;rpc-error&quot; element containing the &quot;error-ta=
g&quot; value of &quot;operation-not-supported&quot; if...<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in=
;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><span style=
=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">I=
s the intention that RFC5277 be implemented and then this draft be supporte=
d on top of it ? I see that there are 7 references to RFC5277 , including d=
efinitions of &lt;notification&gt; and its
 encoding mechanism. Whether we can add a statement regarding this point ?<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN">&lt;eric&gt;&nbsp; A section on this relationship is contained in S=
ection 1.4 of draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN">Eric<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-language=
:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">With Rega=
rds,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Rohit R<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Network Configuration WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Dynamic subscription to YANG Events and Datastores over NETCONF
        Authors         : Eric Voit
                          Alexander Clemm
                          Alberto Gonzalez Prieto
                          Einar Nilsen-Nygaard
                          Ambika Prasad Tripathy
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : Subscription to YANG Event Notifications
        Authors         : Eric Voit
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                          Einar Nilsen-Nygaard
                          Ambika Prasad Tripathy
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Thanks again for the review.  I believe the latest version just posted now =
reflects the results from the thread.  If anything else is needed, please l=
et us know.

Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 4:38 PM
> To: Per Hedeland <per@hedeland.org>; Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>
> Cc: draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications.all@ietf.org; netconf@iet=
f.org;
> yang-doctors@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [netconf] [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors last call review of dra=
ft-ietf-
> netconf-subscribed-notifications-21
>=20
> > From: Per Hedeland, January 25, 2019 4:32 PM
> > To: Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com>; Martin Bjorklund
> > <mbj@tail-f.com>
> > Cc: draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications.all@ietf.org;
> > netconf@ietf.org; yang-doctors@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [netconf] [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors last call review of
> > draft-ietf-
> > netconf-subscribed-notifications-21
> >
> > On 2019-01-25 22:15, Eric Voit (evoit) wrote:
> > >> From: Per Hedeland, January 25, 2019 1:20 PM
> > >>
> > >> On 2019-01-25 16:41, Eric Voit (evoit) wrote:
> > >>>> From: Martin Bjorklund, January 25, 2019 10:30 AM
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> From: Martin Bjorklund, January 25, 2019 3:40 AM
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Martin Bjorklund, January 24, 2019 9:40 AM
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Martin Bjorklund, January 24, 2019 8:17 AM
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [...]
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thinking some more, what is supposed to happen if the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> client on the same session sends first an
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> establish-subscription with dscp 42, and then another
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> establish-
> > >>>>>> subscription with dscp 10?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This would be allowed.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On linux at least this is a sockopt, i.e., the option
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> applies to the socket, which means all packets on the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> session.  So how is this supposed to be implemented if
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> different messages on the session should have different
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dscp
> > values?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Or is the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> idea that you send the msg, flush all data from ssh/tls
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to tcp, then flush the tcp buffers (not that easy...)?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Even if there's just one establish-subscription with a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> dscp value, since it applies to the session it means that
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> all normal rpcs on this session will get the same dscp val=
ue.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> It is not clear that this is the intention?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Did you miss these questions?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> With NETCONF, one DSCP will apply to single TCP session.  So
> > >>>>>>> there is no
> > >>>>>> issue.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The problem is if a client sends two establish-subscriptions
> > >>>>>> with different values for dscp on the same session.  Or even if
> > >>>>>> the client sends one
> > >>>>>> establish-
> > >>>>>> subscription with som dscp value, then the dscp will be applied
> > >>>>>> to all packets from other rpcs as well.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ... and even worse, with SSH channels you can have multiple
> > >>>>>> NETCONF session on the same TCP session, which means that the
> > >>>>>> dscp value applies to all packets in all NETCONF sessions
> > >>>>>> sharing the same TCP session.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I don't know what the right thing to do is.  Probably first
> > >>>>>> agree that this is in fact a problem, then maybe simply
> > >>>>>> document this somehow.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I hadn't thought about multiple NETCONF SSH channels.  I agree
> > >>>>> something to guide developers is needed here.  The easiest fix
> > >>>>> is to recommend not supporting feature "dscp" with NETCONF.  (It
> > >>>>> shouldn't be absolutely prohibited as DSCP related RFC's such as
> > >>>>> RFC7657 embed text like "a single DSCP should be used for all
> > >>>>> packets in a TCP
> > >>>>> connection".)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Here is the text I suggest is put into
> > >>>>> draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications, Section 5:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> "The feature "dscp" SHOULD NOT be supported over NETCONF.  This
> > >>>>> will avoid the potential for out-of-order packet delivery of the
> > >>>>> set of all traffic within the TCP session."
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I think this is a bit too limiting.  For configured subscriptions
> > >>>> it can be perfectly fine, since the server can ensure that
> > >>>> there's a single TCP session to the receiver in this case.  (I
> > >>>> know we don't support
> > >> configured subscriptions at the moment).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Perhaps we can say in the SN document:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>     If a server that supports the "dscp" feature cannot guarantee =
that
> > >>>>     the only packets sent on an underlying transport session are f=
rom
> > >>>>     the subscription, then it should reject the subscription with =
a
> > >>>>     "dscp-unavailable" error.  This will avoid the potential for
> > >>>>     out-of-order packet delivery of the set of all traffic within =
the
> > >>>>     TCP session.
> > >>>
> > >>> This works for me.    I will put this in Section 2.3, directly afte=
r the
> > sentence:
> > >>>
> > >>>      If the publisher supports the "dscp" feature, then a subscript=
ion
> > >>>      with a "dscp" leaf MUST result in a corresponding [RFC2474] DS=
CP
> > >>>      marking being placed within the IP header of any resulting
> > >>>      notification messages and subscription state change notificati=
ons.
> > >>>
> > >>>    unless I hear any objections on this thread.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not sure why the "avoid out-of-order" rationale was presented.
> > >> There is no order "of the set of all traffic within the TCP session"
> > >> to be out-of. Regardless of DSCP, SSH peers will send data on the
> > >> channels (NETCONF sessions) in an order that depends, among other
> > >> things, on the rate of consumption of that data. They will preserve
> > >> order on any given channel, but will not consider order with
> > >> respect to other channels (arguably, not having to do that is the
> > >> whole point of
> > having flow control at the SSH level).
> > >
> > > Hi Per,
> > >
> > > What you say is absolutely true.  You likely know this, but Martin
> > > asked to
> > include the out-of-order rationale because if a TCP session carries
> > traffic consisting of a set of DSCP values, then the network elements
> > between the publisher and receiver might reorder the packets.
> >
> > Hm, from the e-mail thread, it seems that the issue of reordering was
> > introduced by you, and Martin's text just copied your text regarding
> > that issue, while relaxing the requirement from completely forbidding
> > the use of the DSCP parameter to disallowing it where it could have
> undesired effects.
> >
> > > While the order might be restored at the receiver (per your point),
> > > this might
> > also be seen as loss.  The result to the application is that higher
> > priority dscp packets will be seen no faster those with lower
> > priority.  Again you likely know this, but there is more on this genera=
l topic in
> places like RFC-7657, Section 5.2.
> > >
> > > To cover what Martin wants, and reduce the non-normative text, how
> > > about
> > the following?...
> > >
> > > "Where TCP is used, a publisher which supports the "dscp" feature
> > > SHOULD
> > ensure that a subscription's notification messages are returned within
> > a single TCP transport session where all traffic shares the subscriptio=
n's
> requested
> > "dscp" leaf value.   Where this cannot be guaranteed, any "establish
> > subscription" RPC request SHOULD be rejected with a "dscp-unavailable"
> > error."
> >
> > This seems fine to me. The point, as far as I can see, is that a DSCP
> > parameter must not be applied to a session (or subscription) that
> > didn't "ask" for it. This is enough of a rationale IMHO, no need to go
> > into the details of what the result may or may not be as far as reorder=
ing of
> packets goes.
>=20
> Thanks Per, this works for me.
>=20
> Eric
>=20
> > --Per
> >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > >> I suggest simply dropping the "This will avoid ..." sentence.
> > >>
> > >> --Per
> > >>
> > >>> Eric
> > >>>
> > >>>> I think such text belongs to the SN document, since it may apply
> > >>>> to other transports than just NETCONF.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> /martin
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> With this text, a RESTCONF publisher can support the feature dscp=
.
> > >>>>> And if someone attempts to use dscp with a NETCONF subscription
> > >>>>> to the same publisher, the error "dscp-unavailable" can be sent.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Eric
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ...
> > >>>>>> /martin
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> netconf mailing list
> > >>> netconf@ietf.org
> > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf
> > >>>
> > >


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        Title           : Dynamic subscription to YANG Events and Datastores over RESTCONF
        Authors         : Eric Voit
                          Reshad Rahman
                          Einar Nilsen-Nygaard
                          Alexander Clemm
                          Andy Bierman
	Filename        : draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif-13.txt
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	Date            : 2019-02-14

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        Title           : Notification Message Headers and Bundles
        Authors         : Eric Voit
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                          Tim Jenkins
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Hi Kent,

When looking at the model in subject, I was wondering why certificate expir=
ation notifications of pinned certificates are emitted? I would think that =
the node should not be concerned about sending notifications of certificate=
s of other nodes, and also one wouldn't like to receive a notification N-ti=
mes for a single pinned certificate that is going to expire.

Could you please comment on this?

Thanks,
Balazs

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"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

Andy


On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 7:35 PM Kent Watsen <kent@watsen.net> wrote:

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"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"


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On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 7:35 PM Kent Watsen <kent@watsen.net> wrote:

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">On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 7:35 PM Kent Watsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kent@wa=
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<br>
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Cheers,

Einar

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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Cheers,

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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft

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> Subject: YP: final IPR disclosure confirmation
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> If "yes", has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (=
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft

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> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 10:36 PM
> To: Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com>; Alexander Clemm
> <ludwig@clemm.org>; alberto.gonzalez@microsoft.com; Einar Nilsen-Nygaard
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> Subject: SN: final IPR disclosure confirmation
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> To each author listed on the "To" line.
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> If "yes", has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (=
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>=20
> If "yes" again, please state either:
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> "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
> or
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> RFCs listed above and
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 10:36 PM
> To: Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com>; Alexander Clemm
> <ludwig@clemm.org>; alberto.gonzalez@microsoft.com; Einar Nilsen-Nygaard
> (einarnn) <einarnn@cisco.com>; Ambika Prasad Tripathy Tripathy (ambtripa)
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> Cc: draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications@ietf.org; netconf@ietf=
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> Subject: NN: final IPR disclosure confirmation
>=20
> To each author listed on the "To" line.
>=20
> In order to complete the Shepherd writeup, are you aware of any IPR that
> applies to draft-ietf-netconf-netconf-event-notifications?  Please Reply-=
All to
> *this* email and state either:
>=20
> "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
> or
> "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"
>=20
> If "yes", has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (=
see RFCs
> 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?
>=20
> If "yes" again, please state either:
>=20
> "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
> or
> "No, the IPR has not been disclosed"
>=20
> If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropr=
iate.
>=20
> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the a=
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> by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of=
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> relevant IPR.  This document will not advance to the next stage until a r=
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> has been received from each author and listed contributor.  NOTE: THIS AP=
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft

> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RN: final IPR disclosure confirmation
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.
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Hi Balazs,

Yes, it is the responsibility of the certificate-issuer to issue an =
update, but it is also the responsibility of the server-admin to re-pin =
the updated-certificate.  This alerts the server-admin that a service =
may stop working and they should update the pinned-certificate before it =
expires.

To reproduce the equivalent of there being no notifications, the =
server-admin could chose to ignore expiration-notifications for all =
pinned-certificated.   That said, it seems better to give the choice to =
the server-admin than for there to be no choice.

Thoughts?

Kent // contributor



> On Feb 15, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Bal=C3=A1zs Kov=C3=A1cs =
<balazs.kovacs@ericsson.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Kent,
> =20
> When looking at the model in subject, I was wondering why certificate =
expiration notifications of pinned certificates are emitted? I would =
think that the node should not be concerned about sending notifications =
of certificates of other nodes, and also one wouldn=E2=80=99t like to =
receive a notification N-times for a single pinned certificate that is =
going to expire.
> =20
> Could you please comment on this?
> =20
> Thanks,
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi =
Balazs,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Yes, it is =
the responsibility of the certificate-issuer to issue an update, but it =
is also the responsibility of the server-admin to re-pin the =
updated-certificate. &nbsp;This alerts the server-admin that a service =
may stop working and they should update the =
pinned-certificate&nbsp;before it expires.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">To reproduce the equivalent of there =
being no notifications, the server-admin could chose to ignore =
expiration-notifications for all pinned-certificated. &nbsp; That said, =
it seems better to give the choice to the server-admin than for there to =
be no choice.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thoughts?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Kent // contributor</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 15, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Bal=C3=A1zs Kov=C3=A1cs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:balazs.kovacs@ericsson.com" =
class=3D"">balazs.kovacs@ericsson.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Hi =
Kent,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">When =
looking at the model in subject, I was wondering why certificate =
expiration notifications of pinned certificates are emitted? I would =
think that the node should not be concerned about sending notifications =
of certificates of other nodes, and also one wouldn=E2=80=99t like to =
receive a notification N-times for a single pinned certificate that is =
going to expire.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Could you please comment on this?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Thanks,<o:p=
 class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Balazs<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
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Hello,

What is the best way to get the skeleton of the datastore? I want to get =

all the containers, lists entries and key values, but none of the=20
non-key leafs or leaf-lists. Is there a way to do this?


My next question will be to get this only for the next level, but there=20
get-data+max-depth seem useful?

regards Balazs

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Balazs Lengyel                       Ericsson Hungary Ltd.
Senior Specialist
Mobile: +36-70-330-7909              email: Balazs.Lengyel@ericsson.com



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Bal=E1zs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Hello,
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> What is the best way to get the skeleton of the datastore? I want to
> get all the containers, lists entries and key values, but none of the=

> non-key leafs or leaf-lists. Is there a way to do this?

Not in a generic way.  The only way I can think of is to construct a
subtree filter, from the YANG model.


> My next question will be to get this only for the next level, but
> there get-data+max-depth seem useful?

Yes, max-depth is useful for this case.


/martin



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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.
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Jonathan and Benoit,

We have edited the "corrected=94 text in this errata report as suggested =
by Jonathan. =20
We have left the status of this report as =93Held for Document Update=94. =
=20
Please let us know if any further action is necessary on our part.

The report itself is viewable at =
https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid3821.

Old (as in Jonathan=92s original report):

If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
the last confirmed commit also included a <persist>=20
element.

If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.


New (as updated by Jonathan=92s email - see the last line of both =
paragraphs):

If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> =
element.


If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless the last =
confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.


Thank you.

RFC Editor/mf


> Hi,
> =20
> I raised erratum 3821 to clarify the meaning of the term "confirmed =
commit" for those not familiar with the use of the term within JUNOS. =
Both the original text and the erratum include text that states =93If =
the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout expires, =
the server MUST restore the configuration to its state before the =
sequence of confirmed commits was issued.=94. I have since discovered =
the description of the persist leaf on page 102 that includes the =
statement, =93A persistent confirmed commit is not aborted if the =
NETCONF session terminates.  The only way to abort a persistent =
confirmed commit is to let the timer expire, or to use the =
<cancel-commit> operation.=94 Consequently, the replacement text should =
read:
> =20
> 8.4.1.  Description
> =20
> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
> support the <cancel-commit> operation, the <confirmed>, <confirm-
> timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the <commit>
> operation, and differentiate between a =93to be confirmed=94 <commit>
> operation (a =93confirmed commit=94) and a confirming <commit>
> operation. See Section 8.3 for further details on the <commit>
> operation.
> =20
> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
> seconds =3D 10 minutes). The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
> without the <confirmed> parameter and, if successful, cannot be
> reverted. The timeout period can be adjusted with the <confirm-
> timeout> parameter. If a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation is
> issued before the timer expires, the timer is reset to the new value
> (600 seconds by default). Both the confirming commit and a follow-up
> confirmed <commit> operation MAY introduce additional changes to the
> configuration.
> =20
> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit. If the
> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
> =20
> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a <copy-
> config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
> changes to startup. If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id>
> element.
> =20
> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless the last
> confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.
> =20
> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the first in the
> current sequence of confirmed commits. To cancel the current
> sequence of confirmed commits and revert changes without waiting for
> the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly restore the
> configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits
> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
> =20
> Jonathan Hansford
On Jan 13, 2014, at 7:53 AM, RFC Errata System =
<rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:

> The following errata report has been held for document update=20
> for RFC6241, "Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)".=20
>=20
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D6241&eid=3D3821
>=20
> --------------------------------------
> Status: Held for Document Update
> Type: Editorial
>=20
> Reported by: Jonathan Hansford <jonathan@hansfords.net>
> Date Reported: 2013-12-06
> Held by: Benoit Claise (IESG)
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> Section: 8.4.1
>=20
> Original Text
> -------------
> 8.4.1.  Description
>=20
> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
> support the <cancel-commit> operation and the <confirmed>,
> <confirm-timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the
> <commit> operation.  See Section 8.3 for further details on the
> <commit> operation.
>=20
> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
> seconds =3D 10 minutes).  The confirming commit is a <commit> =
operation
> without the <confirmed> parameter.  The timeout period can be
> adjusted with the <confirm-timeout> parameter.  If a follow-up
> confirmed <commit> operation is issued before the timer expires, the
> timer is reset to the new value (600 seconds by default).  Both the
> confirming commit and a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation MAY
> introduce additional changes to the configuration.
>=20
> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit.  If the
> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
>=20
> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a
> <copy-config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
> changes to startup.
>=20
> If the session issuing the confirmed commit is terminated for any
> reason before the confirm timeout expires, the server MUST restore
> the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit was
> issued, unless the confirmed commit also included a <persist>
> element.
>=20
> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> before the confirmed commit was issued.
>=20
> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the confirmed
> commit.  To cancel a confirmed commit and revert changes without
> waiting for the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly
> restore the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit
> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
>=20
> Corrected Text
> --------------
> 8.4.1.  Description
>=20
> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
> support the <cancel-commit> operation, the <confirmed>, <confirm-
> timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the <commit>
> operation, and differentiate between a =93to be confirmed=94 <commit>
> operation (a =93confirmed commit=94) and a confirming <commit>
> operation. See Section 8.3 for further details on the <commit>
> operation.
>=20
> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
> seconds =3D 10 minutes). The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
> without the <confirmed> parameter and, if successful, cannot be
> reverted. The timeout period can be adjusted with the <confirm-
> timeout> parameter. If a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation is
> issued before the timer expires, the timer is reset to the new value
> (600 seconds by default). Both the confirming commit and a follow-up
> confirmed <commit> operation MAY introduce additional changes to the
> configuration.
>=20
> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit. If the
> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
>=20
> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a <copy-
> config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
> changes to startup. If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> element.
>=20
> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.
>=20
> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the first in the
> current sequence of confirmed commits. To cancel the current
> sequence of confirmed commits and revert changes without waiting for
> the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly restore the
> configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits
> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
>=20
> Notes
> -----
> This erratum seeks to clarify the meaning of the term "confirmed =
commit" for those not familiar with the use of the term within JUNOS. In =
particular, that the use of "confirmed" is not in the sense of the =
adjective (meaning "firmly established") but rather that the commit =
needs to be confirmed. It also emphasises that a "confirming commit" =
cannot be reverted. Finally it identifies that it is possible to have a =
sequence of "confirmed commits" prior to a "confirming commit" and that, =
should no "confirming commit" be received, the configuration will revert =
to the state prior to the first "confirmed commit" in the sequence.
>=20
> --------------------------------------
> RFC6241 (draft-ietf-netconf-4741bis-10)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)
> Publication Date    : June 2011
> Author(s)           : R. Enns, Ed., M. Bjorklund, Ed., J. =
Schoenwaelder, Ed., A. Bierman, Ed.
> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> Source              : Network Configuration
> Area                : Operations and Management
> Stream              : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG
>=20


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Hi Megan,

Not sure why you direct this email to me. Ignas is the OPS AD for some 
time now.
Anyway, if you ask me: I think this errata is ok. It is a clarification.

Regards, Benoit
> Jonathan and Benoit,
>
> We have edited the "corrected” text in this errata report as suggested by Jonathan.
> We have left the status of this report as “Held for Document Update”.
> Please let us know if any further action is necessary on our part.
>
> The report itself is viewable at https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid3821.
>
> Old (as in Jonathan’s original report):
>
> If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist>
> element.
>
> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.
>
>
> New (as updated by Jonathan’s email - see the last line of both paragraphs):
>
> If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.
>
>
> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> RFC Editor/mf
>
>
>> Hi,
>>   
>> I raised erratum 3821 to clarify the meaning of the term "confirmed commit" for those not familiar with the use of the term within JUNOS. Both the original text and the erratum include text that states “If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.”. I have since discovered the description of the persist leaf on page 102 that includes the statement, “A persistent confirmed commit is not aborted if the NETCONF session terminates.  The only way to abort a persistent confirmed commit is to let the timer expire, or to use the <cancel-commit> operation.” Consequently, the replacement text should read:
>>   
>> 8.4.1.  Description
>>   
>> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
>> support the <cancel-commit> operation, the <confirmed>, <confirm-
>> timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the <commit>
>> operation, and differentiate between a “to be confirmed” <commit>
>> operation (a “confirmed commit”) and a confirming <commit>
>> operation. See Section 8.3 for further details on the <commit>
>> operation.
>>   
>> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
>> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
>> seconds = 10 minutes). The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
>> without the <confirmed> parameter and, if successful, cannot be
>> reverted. The timeout period can be adjusted with the <confirm-
>> timeout> parameter. If a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation is
>> issued before the timer expires, the timer is reset to the new value
>> (600 seconds by default). Both the confirming commit and a follow-up
>> confirmed <commit> operation MAY introduce additional changes to the
>> configuration.
>>   
>> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
>> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
>> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit. If the
>> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
>> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
>> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
>> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
>>   
>> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a <copy-
>> config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
>> changes to startup. If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
>> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
>> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
>> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
>> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id>
>> element.
>>   
>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
>> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless the last
>> confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.
>>   
>> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
>> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the first in the
>> current sequence of confirmed commits. To cancel the current
>> sequence of confirmed commits and revert changes without waiting for
>> the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly restore the
>> configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits
>> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
>>   
>> Jonathan Hansford
> On Jan 13, 2014, at 7:53 AM, RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>
>> The following errata report has been held for document update
>> for RFC6241, "Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)".
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> You may review the report below and at:
>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6241&eid=3821
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> Status: Held for Document Update
>> Type: Editorial
>>
>> Reported by: Jonathan Hansford <jonathan@hansfords.net>
>> Date Reported: 2013-12-06
>> Held by: Benoit Claise (IESG)
>>
>> Section: 8.4.1
>>
>> Original Text
>> -------------
>> 8.4.1.  Description
>>
>> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
>> support the <cancel-commit> operation and the <confirmed>,
>> <confirm-timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the
>> <commit> operation.  See Section 8.3 for further details on the
>> <commit> operation.
>>
>> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
>> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
>> seconds = 10 minutes).  The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
>> without the <confirmed> parameter.  The timeout period can be
>> adjusted with the <confirm-timeout> parameter.  If a follow-up
>> confirmed <commit> operation is issued before the timer expires, the
>> timer is reset to the new value (600 seconds by default).  Both the
>> confirming commit and a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation MAY
>> introduce additional changes to the configuration.
>>
>> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
>> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
>> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit.  If the
>> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
>> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
>> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
>> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
>>
>> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a
>> <copy-config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
>> changes to startup.
>>
>> If the session issuing the confirmed commit is terminated for any
>> reason before the confirm timeout expires, the server MUST restore
>> the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit was
>> issued, unless the confirmed commit also included a <persist>
>> element.
>>
>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
>> before the confirmed commit was issued.
>>
>> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
>> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the confirmed
>> commit.  To cancel a confirmed commit and revert changes without
>> waiting for the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly
>> restore the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit
>> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
>>
>> Corrected Text
>> --------------
>> 8.4.1.  Description
>>
>> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
>> support the <cancel-commit> operation, the <confirmed>, <confirm-
>> timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the <commit>
>> operation, and differentiate between a “to be confirmed” <commit>
>> operation (a “confirmed commit”) and a confirming <commit>
>> operation. See Section 8.3 for further details on the <commit>
>> operation.
>>
>> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
>> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
>> seconds = 10 minutes). The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
>> without the <confirmed> parameter and, if successful, cannot be
>> reverted. The timeout period can be adjusted with the <confirm-
>> timeout> parameter. If a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation is
>> issued before the timer expires, the timer is reset to the new value
>> (600 seconds by default). Both the confirming commit and a follow-up
>> confirmed <commit> operation MAY introduce additional changes to the
>> configuration.
>>
>> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
>> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
>> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit. If the
>> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
>> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
>> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
>> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
>>
>> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a <copy-
>> config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
>> changes to startup. If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
>> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
>> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
>> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
>> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> element.
>>
>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
>> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.
>>
>> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
>> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the first in the
>> current sequence of confirmed commits. To cancel the current
>> sequence of confirmed commits and revert changes without waiting for
>> the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly restore the
>> configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits
>> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
>>
>> Notes
>> -----
>> This erratum seeks to clarify the meaning of the term "confirmed commit" for those not familiar with the use of the term within JUNOS. In particular, that the use of "confirmed" is not in the sense of the adjective (meaning "firmly established") but rather that the commit needs to be confirmed. It also emphasises that a "confirming commit" cannot be reverted. Finally it identifies that it is possible to have a sequence of "confirmed commits" prior to a "confirming commit" and that, should no "confirming commit" be received, the configuration will revert to the state prior to the first "confirmed commit" in the sequence.
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> RFC6241 (draft-ietf-netconf-4741bis-10)
>> --------------------------------------
>> Title               : Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)
>> Publication Date    : June 2011
>> Author(s)           : R. Enns, Ed., M. Bjorklund, Ed., J. Schoenwaelder, Ed., A. Bierman, Ed.
>> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
>> Source              : Network Configuration
>> Area                : Operations and Management
>> Stream              : IETF
>> Verifying Party     : IESG
>>
> .
>


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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft

Balazs Lengyel

On 2019. 02. 16. 4:35, Kent Watsen wrote:
> To each author listed on the "To" line.
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> In order to complete the Shepherd writeup, are you aware of any IPR tha=
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> or
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Balazs Lengyel                       Ericsson Hungary Ltd.
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Subject: Re: [netconf] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC6241 (3821)
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On 2019-02-20 01:44, Megan Ferguson wrote:
> Jonathan and Benoit,
> 
> We have edited the "corrected text in this errata report as suggested by Jonathan.

I don't know if this change - i.e. the addition of the text "or
<persist-id>" in two places - should affect the status of the
document, but it seems to me that it can then no longer be considered
a "clarification", since it proposes a change to the semantics
specified in RFC 6241. As far as I can see, it is clear from 6241 that
the presence of the <persist-id> parameter does not affect the
persistence, only the presence of the <persist> parameter does that.

Furthermore, I'm afraid I fail to find any motivation for this change
in the quoted message from Jonathan (as far as I can see, this message
was not sent to the mailing list).

--Per Hedeland

> We have left the status of this report as Held for Document Update.
> Please let us know if any further action is necessary on our part.
> 
> The report itself is viewable at https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid3821.
> 
> Old (as in Jonathans original report):
> 
> If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist>
> element.
> 
> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.
> 
> 
> New (as updated by Jonathans email - see the last line of both paragraphs):
> 
> If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.
> 
> 
> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor/mf
> 
> 
>> Hi,
>>   
>> I raised erratum 3821 to clarify the meaning of the term "confirmed commit" for those not familiar with the use of the term within JUNOS. Both the original text and the erratum include text that states If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.. I have since discovered the description of the persist leaf on page 102 that includes the statement, A persistent confirmed commit is not aborted if the NETCONF session terminates.  The only way to abort a persistent confirmed commit is to let the timer expire, or to use the <cancel-commit> operation. Consequently, the replacement text should read:
>>   
>> 8.4.1.  Description
>>   
>> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
>> support the <cancel-commit> operation, the <confirmed>, <confirm-
>> timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the <commit>
>> operation, and differentiate between a to be confirmed <commit>
>> operation (a confirmed commit) and a confirming <commit>
>> operation. See Section 8.3 for further details on the <commit>
>> operation.
>>   
>> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
>> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
>> seconds = 10 minutes). The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
>> without the <confirmed> parameter and, if successful, cannot be
>> reverted. The timeout period can be adjusted with the <confirm-
>> timeout> parameter. If a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation is
>> issued before the timer expires, the timer is reset to the new value
>> (600 seconds by default). Both the confirming commit and a follow-up
>> confirmed <commit> operation MAY introduce additional changes to the
>> configuration.
>>   
>> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
>> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
>> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit. If the
>> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
>> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
>> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
>> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
>>   
>> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a <copy-
>> config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
>> changes to startup. If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
>> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
>> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
>> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
>> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id>
>> element.
>>   
>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
>> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless the last
>> confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.
>>   
>> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
>> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the first in the
>> current sequence of confirmed commits. To cancel the current
>> sequence of confirmed commits and revert changes without waiting for
>> the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly restore the
>> configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits
>> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
>>   
>> Jonathan Hansford
> On Jan 13, 2014, at 7:53 AM, RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> 
>> The following errata report has been held for document update
>> for RFC6241, "Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)".
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> You may review the report below and at:
>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6241&eid=3821
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> Status: Held for Document Update
>> Type: Editorial
>>
>> Reported by: Jonathan Hansford <jonathan@hansfords.net>
>> Date Reported: 2013-12-06
>> Held by: Benoit Claise (IESG)
>>
>> Section: 8.4.1
>>
>> Original Text
>> -------------
>> 8.4.1.  Description
>>
>> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
>> support the <cancel-commit> operation and the <confirmed>,
>> <confirm-timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the
>> <commit> operation.  See Section 8.3 for further details on the
>> <commit> operation.
>>
>> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
>> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
>> seconds = 10 minutes).  The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
>> without the <confirmed> parameter.  The timeout period can be
>> adjusted with the <confirm-timeout> parameter.  If a follow-up
>> confirmed <commit> operation is issued before the timer expires, the
>> timer is reset to the new value (600 seconds by default).  Both the
>> confirming commit and a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation MAY
>> introduce additional changes to the configuration.
>>
>> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
>> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
>> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit.  If the
>> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
>> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
>> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
>> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
>>
>> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a
>> <copy-config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
>> changes to startup.
>>
>> If the session issuing the confirmed commit is terminated for any
>> reason before the confirm timeout expires, the server MUST restore
>> the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit was
>> issued, unless the confirmed commit also included a <persist>
>> element.
>>
>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
>> before the confirmed commit was issued.
>>
>> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
>> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the confirmed
>> commit.  To cancel a confirmed commit and revert changes without
>> waiting for the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly
>> restore the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit
>> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
>>
>> Corrected Text
>> --------------
>> 8.4.1.  Description
>>
>> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
>> support the <cancel-commit> operation, the <confirmed>, <confirm-
>> timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the <commit>
>> operation, and differentiate between a to be confirmed <commit>
>> operation (a confirmed commit) and a confirming <commit>
>> operation. See Section 8.3 for further details on the <commit>
>> operation.
>>
>> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
>> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
>> seconds = 10 minutes). The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
>> without the <confirmed> parameter and, if successful, cannot be
>> reverted. The timeout period can be adjusted with the <confirm-
>> timeout> parameter. If a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation is
>> issued before the timer expires, the timer is reset to the new value
>> (600 seconds by default). Both the confirming commit and a follow-up
>> confirmed <commit> operation MAY introduce additional changes to the
>> configuration.
>>
>> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
>> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
>> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit. If the
>> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
>> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
>> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
>> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
>>
>> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a <copy-
>> config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
>> changes to startup. If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
>> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
>> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
>> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
>> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> element.
>>
>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
>> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.
>>
>> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
>> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the first in the
>> current sequence of confirmed commits. To cancel the current
>> sequence of confirmed commits and revert changes without waiting for
>> the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly restore the
>> configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits
>> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
>>
>> Notes
>> -----
>> This erratum seeks to clarify the meaning of the term "confirmed commit" for those not familiar with the use of the term within JUNOS. In particular, that the use of "confirmed" is not in the sense of the adjective (meaning "firmly established") but rather that the commit needs to be confirmed. It also emphasises that a "confirming commit" cannot be reverted. Finally it identifies that it is possible to have a sequence of "confirmed commits" prior to a "confirming commit" and that, should no "confirming commit" be received, the configuration will revert to the state prior to the first "confirmed commit" in the sequence.
>>
>> --------------------------------------
>> RFC6241 (draft-ietf-netconf-4741bis-10)
>> --------------------------------------
>> Title               : Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)
>> Publication Date    : June 2011
>> Author(s)           : R. Enns, Ed., M. Bjorklund, Ed., J. Schoenwaelder, Ed., A. Bierman, Ed.
>> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
>> Source              : Network Configuration
>> Area                : Operations and Management
>> Stream              : IETF
>> Verifying Party     : IESG
>>
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Hi,

Per Hedeland <per@hedeland.org> wrote:
> On 2019-02-20 01:44, Megan Ferguson wrote:
> > Jonathan and Benoit,
> > We have edited the "corrected text in this errata report as
> > suggested by Jonathan.
> 
> I don't know if this change - i.e. the addition of the text "or
> <persist-id>" in two places - should affect the status of the
> document, but it seems to me that it can then no longer be considered
> a "clarification", since it proposes a change to the semantics
> specified in RFC 6241. As far as I can see, it is clear from 6241 that
> the presence of the <persist-id> parameter does not affect the
> persistence, only the presence of the <persist> parameter does that.

Hmm, I missed this detail.

It is clearly not correct to say that the <persist-id> affects
persistence.   So s/or <persist-id>// in the 4th and 5th paragraphs.

Do you see any other issues with the proposed text?

(An editorial change - the 4th para should be split into two, just as
in the original text)



/martin






> 
> Furthermore, I'm afraid I fail to find any motivation for this change
> in the quoted message from Jonathan (as far as I can see, this message
> was not sent to the mailing list).
> 
> --Per Hedeland
> 
> > We have left the status of this report as Held for Document
> > Update.
> > Please let us know if any further action is necessary on our part.
> > The report itself is viewable at
> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid3821.
> > Old (as in Jonathans original report):
> > If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
> > confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
> > timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
> > state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
> > the last confirmed commit also included a <persist>
> > element.
> > If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> > expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> > before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.
> > New (as updated by Jonathans email - see the last line of both
> > paragraphs):
> > If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
> > confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
> > timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
> > state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
> > the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id>
> > element.
> > If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> > expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> > before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless the last
> > confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.
> > Thank you.
> > RFC Editor/mf
> > 
> >> Hi,
> >>   I raised erratum 3821 to clarify the meaning of the term "confirmed
> >>   commit" for those not familiar with the use of the term within
> >>   JUNOS. Both the original text and the erratum include text that states
> >>   If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> >>   expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state before
> >>   the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.. I have since
> >>   discovered the description of the persist leaf on page 102 that
> >>   includes the statement, A persistent confirmed commit is not aborted
> >>   if the NETCONF session terminates.  The only way to abort a persistent
> >>   confirmed commit is to let the timer expire, or to use the
> >>   <cancel-commit> operation. Consequently, the replacement text should
> >>   read:
> >>   8.4.1.  Description
> >>   The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
> >> support the <cancel-commit> operation, the <confirmed>, <confirm-
> >> timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the <commit>
> >> operation, and differentiate between a to be confirmed <commit>
> >> operation (a confirmed commit) and a confirming <commit>
> >> operation. See Section 8.3 for further details on the <commit>
> >> operation.
> >>   A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
> >> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
> >> seconds = 10 minutes). The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
> >> without the <confirmed> parameter and, if successful, cannot be
> >> reverted. The timeout period can be adjusted with the <confirm-
> >> timeout> parameter. If a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation is
> >> issued before the timer expires, the timer is reset to the new value
> >> (600 seconds by default). Both the confirming commit and a follow-up
> >> confirmed <commit> operation MAY introduce additional changes to the
> >> configuration.
> >>   If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
> >> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
> >> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit. If the
> >> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
> >> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
> >> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
> >> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
> >>   If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a <copy-
> >> config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
> >> changes to startup. If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
> >> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
> >> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
> >> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
> >> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id>
> >> element.
> >>   If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> >> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> >> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless the last
> >> confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.
> >>   If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
> >> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the first in the
> >> current sequence of confirmed commits. To cancel the current
> >> sequence of confirmed commits and revert changes without waiting for
> >> the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly restore the
> >> configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits
> >> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
> >>   Jonathan Hansford
> > On Jan 13, 2014, at 7:53 AM, RFC Errata System
> > <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> The following errata report has been held for document update
> >> for RFC6241, "Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)".
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> You may review the report below and at:
> >> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6241&eid=3821
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> Status: Held for Document Update
> >> Type: Editorial
> >>
> >> Reported by: Jonathan Hansford <jonathan@hansfords.net>
> >> Date Reported: 2013-12-06
> >> Held by: Benoit Claise (IESG)
> >>
> >> Section: 8.4.1
> >>
> >> Original Text
> >> -------------
> >> 8.4.1.  Description
> >>
> >> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
> >> support the <cancel-commit> operation and the <confirmed>,
> >> <confirm-timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the
> >> <commit> operation.  See Section 8.3 for further details on the
> >> <commit> operation.
> >>
> >> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
> >> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
> >> seconds = 10 minutes).  The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
> >> without the <confirmed> parameter.  The timeout period can be
> >> adjusted with the <confirm-timeout> parameter.  If a follow-up
> >> confirmed <commit> operation is issued before the timer expires, the
> >> timer is reset to the new value (600 seconds by default).  Both the
> >> confirming commit and a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation MAY
> >> introduce additional changes to the configuration.
> >>
> >> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
> >> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
> >> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit.  If the
> >> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
> >> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
> >> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
> >> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
> >>
> >> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a
> >> <copy-config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
> >> changes to startup.
> >>
> >> If the session issuing the confirmed commit is terminated for any
> >> reason before the confirm timeout expires, the server MUST restore
> >> the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit was
> >> issued, unless the confirmed commit also included a <persist>
> >> element.
> >>
> >> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> >> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> >> before the confirmed commit was issued.
> >>
> >> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
> >> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the confirmed
> >> commit.  To cancel a confirmed commit and revert changes without
> >> waiting for the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly
> >> restore the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit
> >> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
> >>
> >> Corrected Text
> >> --------------
> >> 8.4.1.  Description
> >>
> >> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
> >> support the <cancel-commit> operation, the <confirmed>, <confirm-
> >> timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the <commit>
> >> operation, and differentiate between a to be confirmed <commit>
> >> operation (a confirmed commit) and a confirming <commit>
> >> operation. See Section 8.3 for further details on the <commit>
> >> operation.
> >>
> >> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
> >> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
> >> seconds = 10 minutes). The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
> >> without the <confirmed> parameter and, if successful, cannot be
> >> reverted. The timeout period can be adjusted with the <confirm-
> >> timeout> parameter. If a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation is
> >> issued before the timer expires, the timer is reset to the new value
> >> (600 seconds by default). Both the confirming commit and a follow-up
> >> confirmed <commit> operation MAY introduce additional changes to the
> >> configuration.
> >>
> >> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
> >> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
> >> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit. If the
> >> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
> >> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
> >> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
> >> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
> >>
> >> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a <copy-
> >> config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
> >> changes to startup. If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
> >> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
> >> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
> >> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
> >> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> element.
> >>
> >> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
> >> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
> >> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.
> >>
> >> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
> >> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the first in the
> >> current sequence of confirmed commits. To cancel the current
> >> sequence of confirmed commits and revert changes without waiting for
> >> the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly restore the
> >> configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits
> >> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
> >>
> >> Notes
> >> -----
> >> This erratum seeks to clarify the meaning of the term "confirmed
> >> commit" for those not familiar with the use of the term within
> >> JUNOS. In particular, that the use of "confirmed" is not in the sense
> >> of the adjective (meaning "firmly established") but rather that the
> >> commit needs to be confirmed. It also emphasises that a "confirming
> >> commit" cannot be reverted. Finally it identifies that it is possible
> >> to have a sequence of "confirmed commits" prior to a "confirming
> >> commit" and that, should no "confirming commit" be received, the
> >> configuration will revert to the state prior to the first "confirmed
> >> commit" in the sequence.
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> RFC6241 (draft-ietf-netconf-4741bis-10)
> >> --------------------------------------
> >> Title               : Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)
> >> Publication Date    : June 2011
> >> Author(s) : R. Enns, Ed., M. Bjorklund, Ed., J. Schoenwaelder, Ed.,
> >> A. Bierman, Ed.
> >> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> >> Source              : Network Configuration
> >> Area                : Operations and Management
> >> Stream              : IETF
> >> Verifying Party     : IESG
> >>
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On 2019-02-21 14:22, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Per Hedeland <per@hedeland.org> wrote:
>> On 2019-02-20 01:44, Megan Ferguson wrote:
>>> Jonathan and Benoit,
>>> We have edited the "corrected text in this errata report as
>>> suggested by Jonathan.
>>
>> I don't know if this change - i.e. the addition of the text "or
>> <persist-id>" in two places - should affect the status of the
>> document, but it seems to me that it can then no longer be considered
>> a "clarification", since it proposes a change to the semantics
>> specified in RFC 6241. As far as I can see, it is clear from 6241 that
>> the presence of the <persist-id> parameter does not affect the
>> persistence, only the presence of the <persist> parameter does that.
> 
> Hmm, I missed this detail.
> 
> It is clearly not correct to say that the <persist-id> affects
> persistence.   So s/or <persist-id>// in the 4th and 5th paragraphs.

Hm, right, the remainder of the change to the 5th paragraph should be
kept (I originally misread it as *only* adding "or <persist-id>" there
too).

> Do you see any other issues with the proposed text?

No, it seems fine - a useful clarification.

> (An editorial change - the 4th para should be split into two, just as
> in the original text)

+1

--Per

> /martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Furthermore, I'm afraid I fail to find any motivation for this change
>> in the quoted message from Jonathan (as far as I can see, this message
>> was not sent to the mailing list).
>>
>> --Per Hedeland
>>
>>> We have left the status of this report as Held for Document
>>> Update.
>>> Please let us know if any further action is necessary on our part.
>>> The report itself is viewable at
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid3821.
>>> Old (as in Jonathans original report):
>>> If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
>>> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
>>> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
>>> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
>>> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist>
>>> element.
>>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
>>> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.
>>> New (as updated by Jonathans email - see the last line of both
>>> paragraphs):
>>> If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
>>> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
>>> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
>>> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
>>> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id>
>>> element.
>>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
>>> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless the last
>>> confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.
>>> Thank you.
>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>    I raised erratum 3821 to clarify the meaning of the term "confirmed
>>>>    commit" for those not familiar with the use of the term within
>>>>    JUNOS. Both the original text and the erratum include text that states
>>>>    If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>>>>    expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state before
>>>>    the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.. I have since
>>>>    discovered the description of the persist leaf on page 102 that
>>>>    includes the statement, A persistent confirmed commit is not aborted
>>>>    if the NETCONF session terminates.  The only way to abort a persistent
>>>>    confirmed commit is to let the timer expire, or to use the
>>>>    <cancel-commit> operation. Consequently, the replacement text should
>>>>    read:
>>>>    8.4.1.  Description
>>>>    The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
>>>> support the <cancel-commit> operation, the <confirmed>, <confirm-
>>>> timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the <commit>
>>>> operation, and differentiate between a to be confirmed <commit>
>>>> operation (a confirmed commit) and a confirming <commit>
>>>> operation. See Section 8.3 for further details on the <commit>
>>>> operation.
>>>>    A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
>>>> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
>>>> seconds = 10 minutes). The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
>>>> without the <confirmed> parameter and, if successful, cannot be
>>>> reverted. The timeout period can be adjusted with the <confirm-
>>>> timeout> parameter. If a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation is
>>>> issued before the timer expires, the timer is reset to the new value
>>>> (600 seconds by default). Both the confirming commit and a follow-up
>>>> confirmed <commit> operation MAY introduce additional changes to the
>>>> configuration.
>>>>    If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
>>>> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
>>>> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit. If the
>>>> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
>>>> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
>>>> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
>>>> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
>>>>    If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a <copy-
>>>> config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
>>>> changes to startup. If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
>>>> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
>>>> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
>>>> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
>>>> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id>
>>>> element.
>>>>    If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>>>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
>>>> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless the last
>>>> confirmed commit also included a <persist> or <persist-id> element.
>>>>    If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
>>>> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the first in the
>>>> current sequence of confirmed commits. To cancel the current
>>>> sequence of confirmed commits and revert changes without waiting for
>>>> the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly restore the
>>>> configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits
>>>> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
>>>>    Jonathan Hansford
>>> On Jan 13, 2014, at 7:53 AM, RFC Errata System
>>> <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The following errata report has been held for document update
>>>> for RFC6241, "Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)".
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> You may review the report below and at:
>>>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6241&eid=3821
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> Status: Held for Document Update
>>>> Type: Editorial
>>>>
>>>> Reported by: Jonathan Hansford <jonathan@hansfords.net>
>>>> Date Reported: 2013-12-06
>>>> Held by: Benoit Claise (IESG)
>>>>
>>>> Section: 8.4.1
>>>>
>>>> Original Text
>>>> -------------
>>>> 8.4.1.  Description
>>>>
>>>> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
>>>> support the <cancel-commit> operation and the <confirmed>,
>>>> <confirm-timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the
>>>> <commit> operation.  See Section 8.3 for further details on the
>>>> <commit> operation.
>>>>
>>>> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
>>>> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
>>>> seconds = 10 minutes).  The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
>>>> without the <confirmed> parameter.  The timeout period can be
>>>> adjusted with the <confirm-timeout> parameter.  If a follow-up
>>>> confirmed <commit> operation is issued before the timer expires, the
>>>> timer is reset to the new value (600 seconds by default).  Both the
>>>> confirming commit and a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation MAY
>>>> introduce additional changes to the configuration.
>>>>
>>>> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
>>>> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
>>>> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit.  If the
>>>> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
>>>> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
>>>> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
>>>> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
>>>>
>>>> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a
>>>> <copy-config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
>>>> changes to startup.
>>>>
>>>> If the session issuing the confirmed commit is terminated for any
>>>> reason before the confirm timeout expires, the server MUST restore
>>>> the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit was
>>>> issued, unless the confirmed commit also included a <persist>
>>>> element.
>>>>
>>>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>>>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
>>>> before the confirmed commit was issued.
>>>>
>>>> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
>>>> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the confirmed
>>>> commit.  To cancel a confirmed commit and revert changes without
>>>> waiting for the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly
>>>> restore the configuration to its state before the confirmed commit
>>>> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
>>>>
>>>> Corrected Text
>>>> --------------
>>>> 8.4.1.  Description
>>>>
>>>> The :confirmed-commit:1.1 capability indicates that the server will
>>>> support the <cancel-commit> operation, the <confirmed>, <confirm-
>>>> timeout>, <persist>, and <persist-id> parameters for the <commit>
>>>> operation, and differentiate between a to be confirmed <commit>
>>>> operation (a confirmed commit) and a confirming <commit>
>>>> operation. See Section 8.3 for further details on the <commit>
>>>> operation.
>>>>
>>>> A confirmed <commit> operation MUST be reverted if a confirming
>>>> commit is not issued within the timeout period (by default 600
>>>> seconds = 10 minutes). The confirming commit is a <commit> operation
>>>> without the <confirmed> parameter and, if successful, cannot be
>>>> reverted. The timeout period can be adjusted with the <confirm-
>>>> timeout> parameter. If a follow-up confirmed <commit> operation is
>>>> issued before the timer expires, the timer is reset to the new value
>>>> (600 seconds by default). Both the confirming commit and a follow-up
>>>> confirmed <commit> operation MAY introduce additional changes to the
>>>> configuration.
>>>>
>>>> If the <persist> element is not given in the confirmed commit
>>>> operation, any follow-up commit and the confirming commit MUST be
>>>> issued on the same session that issued the confirmed commit. If the
>>>> <persist> element is given in the confirmed <commit> operation, a
>>>> follow-up commit and the confirming commit can be given on any
>>>> session, and they MUST include a <persist-id> element with a value
>>>> equal to the given value of the <persist> element.
>>>>
>>>> If the server also advertises the :startup capability, a <copy-
>>>> config> from running to startup is also necessary to save the
>>>> changes to startup. If the session issuing a sequence of one or more
>>>> confirmed commits is terminated for any reason before the confirm
>>>> timeout expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its
>>>> state before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued, unless
>>>> the last confirmed commit also included a <persist> element.
>>>>
>>>> If the device reboots for any reason before the confirm timeout
>>>> expires, the server MUST restore the configuration to its state
>>>> before the sequence of confirmed commits was issued.
>>>>
>>>> If a confirming commit is not issued, the device will revert its
>>>> configuration to the state prior to the issuance of the first in the
>>>> current sequence of confirmed commits. To cancel the current
>>>> sequence of confirmed commits and revert changes without waiting for
>>>> the confirm timeout to expire, the client can explicitly restore the
>>>> configuration to its state before the sequence of confirmed commits
>>>> was issued, by using the <cancel-commit> operation.
>>>>
>>>> Notes
>>>> -----
>>>> This erratum seeks to clarify the meaning of the term "confirmed
>>>> commit" for those not familiar with the use of the term within
>>>> JUNOS. In particular, that the use of "confirmed" is not in the sense
>>>> of the adjective (meaning "firmly established") but rather that the
>>>> commit needs to be confirmed. It also emphasises that a "confirming
>>>> commit" cannot be reverted. Finally it identifies that it is possible
>>>> to have a sequence of "confirmed commits" prior to a "confirming
>>>> commit" and that, should no "confirming commit" be received, the
>>>> configuration will revert to the state prior to the first "confirmed
>>>> commit" in the sequence.
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> RFC6241 (draft-ietf-netconf-4741bis-10)
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> Title               : Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)
>>>> Publication Date    : June 2011
>>>> Author(s) : R. Enns, Ed., M. Bjorklund, Ed., J. Schoenwaelder, Ed.,
>>>> A. Bierman, Ed.
>>>> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
>>>> Source              : Network Configuration
>>>> Area                : Operations and Management
>>>> Stream              : IETF
>>>> Verifying Party     : IESG
>>>>
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Dear WG,

The preliminary IETF 104 Agenda has been posted [1].  NETCONF is =
scheduled to meet in the first slot Monday morning (March 25th) for two =
hours.

If you are interested in presenting to the WG, please send your =
presentation requests to the "netconf-chairs" alias (CC-ed) with the =
following information, for each presentation request, if more than one:

  - name of the drafts (if any)
  - name of presentation (usually same as the name of the draft)
  - name of the presenters
  - desired time request in minutes.

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/agenda.html =
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Thanks!
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The preliminary IETF 104 Agenda has been posted [1].  NETCONF is scheduled to meet in the first slot Monday morning (March 25th) for two hours.

If you are interested in presenting to the WG, please send your presentation requests to the "netconf-chairs" alias (CC-ed) with the following information, for each presentation request, if more than one:

  - name of the drafts (if any)
  - name of presentation (usually same as the name of the draft)
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    <p>Hello,</p>
    <p>I would like to present our draft:</p>
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The preliminary IETF 104 Agenda has been posted [1].  NETCONF is schedule=
d to meet in the first slot Monday morning (March 25th) for two hours.

If you are interested in presenting to the WG, please send your presentat=
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Hello,

as an implementer of both RFC6241 and RFC7952, I would find it very
useful if there were an ietf-netconf.yang which includes the annotation
definition of edit-config's operation attribute (Section 7.2).

Are there any plans for RFC6241bis or similar, bringing only an update
to ietf-netconf.yang?

Thanks,
Robert


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Hi Robert,

There is currently no plan to do this, nor is there an rfc6241bis in sight,
though one may be prompted by the YANG-next discussion happening
in NETMOD.

Options (open to comments):

a) file an Errata
b) file a feature request (start a NETCONF-next issue tracker?) 
c) submit an I-D that *updates* just this aspect of RFC 6241
d) submit an I-D for rfc6241bis  (we're probably not ready for this yet)
e) any other choices?

Kent


> On Feb 28, 2019, at 11:04 AM, Robert Varga <nite@hq.sk> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> as an implementer of both RFC6241 and RFC7952, I would find it very
> useful if there were an ietf-netconf.yang which includes the annotation
> definition of edit-config's operation attribute (Section 7.2).
> 
> Are there any plans for RFC6241bis or similar, bringing only an update
> to ietf-netconf.yang?
> 
> Thanks,
> Robert
> 
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