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Subject: [netconf] NACM read access for actions
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Hi,

I read in the NACM RFC 8341 that for actions to not be rejected
they both must have execute access and also read access
for all its parent (instance) nodes along the node hierarchy
up to the top node -described by the path for the action node.

The read access property, is that equivalent of having NACM rules
stating read access for all parent (instance) nodes?

If that is the case, does not that open up the node tree
structure unnecessarily much?


I support the idea of just having to state one NACM rule
containing read and execute access for the action node itself for it
to be able to be run,
and also that all the parent (instance) nodes
will be readable only along the path up to the action node without
any additional NACM rules.
And if there is a read access deny rule on any parent (instance) node
the action will be rejected.


Would appreciate a clarification.

Below are references to RFC 8341.

Regards
/Christofer Tornkvist


References in RFC 8341 are:
Ch. 3.1.3 s.3
   The new "pre-read data node acc. ctl" boxes in the diagram below
   refer to group read access as it relates to data node ancestors of an
   action or notification.  As an example, if an action is defined as
   /interfaces/interface/reset-interface, the group must be authorized
   to (1) read /interfaces and /interfaces/interface and (2) execute on
   /interfaces/interface/reset-interface.

Ch. 3.1.3 p.12 bullet 2
   o  If the <action> operation defined in [RFC7950] is invoked, then
      read access is required for all instances in the hierarchy of data
      nodes that identifies the specific action in the datastore, and
      execute access is required for the action node.  If the user is
      not authorized to read all the specified data nodes and execute
      the action, then the request is rejected with an "access-denied"
      error.



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family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">If that is the case, does=
 not that open up the node tree<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">structure unnecessarily m=
uch?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">I support the idea of jus=
t having to state one&nbsp;</span><b><u><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:#FD851A;mso-fareast-language:SV">NACM</=
span></u></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Men=
lo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;rule<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">containing read and execu=
te access for the action node itself for it<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">to be able to be run,<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">and also that all the par=
ent (instance) nodes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">will be readable only alo=
ng the path up to the action node without<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">any additional&nbsp;</spa=
n><b><u><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;co=
lor:#FD851A;mso-fareast-language:SV">NACM</span></u></b><span lang=3D"EN-US=
" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-langu=
age:SV">&nbsp;rules.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">And if there is a read ac=
cess deny rule on any parent (instance) node<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">the action will be reject=
ed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">Would appreciate a clarif=
ication.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">Below are references to R=
FC 8341.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">Regards<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">/</span><b><u><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:#FC2118;mso-fa=
reast-language:SV">Christofer</span></u></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbs=
p;</span><b><u><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:M=
enlo;color:#FC2118;mso-fareast-language:SV">Tornkvist</span></u></b><span l=
ang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:#FC2118;mso=
-fareast-language:SV"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"=
color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">References in RFC 8341 ar=
e:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">Ch. 3.1.3 s.3<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The new=
 &quot;</span><b><u><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Menlo;color:#FC2118;mso-fareast-language:SV">pre</span></u></b><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fa=
reast-language:SV">-read
 data node acc. ctl&quot; boxes in the diagram below<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;refer t=
o group read access as it relates to data node ancestors of an<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;action =
or notification.&nbsp;&nbsp;As an example, if an action is defined as<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/interf=
aces/interface/reset-interface, the group must be authorized<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;to (1) =
read /interfaces and /interfaces/interface and (2) execute on<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;/interf=
aces/interface/reset-interface.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">Ch. 3.1.3 p.12 bullet 2<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;o&nbsp;=
&nbsp;If the &lt;action&gt; operation defined in [RFC7950] is invoked, then=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp=
;read access is required for all instances in the hierarchy of data<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp=
;nodes that identifies the specific action in the datastore, and<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp=
;execute access is required for the action node.&nbsp;&nbsp;If the user is<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp=
;not authorized to read all the specified data nodes and execute<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp=
;the action, then the request is rejected with an &quot;access-denied&quot;=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Menlo;color:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp=
;</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;color:black;mso-f=
areast-language:SV">error.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Menlo;co=
lor:black;mso-fareast-language:SV">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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A quick question regarding NACM, rfc8341... say in a multi-tenant network,
and I'm admin for my "slice" and I have a "read-update" permission to one
node and a permission to execute <copy-config> protocol operation.  I just
updated a value of that one node in Running.
 
If I now execute <copy-config Running Startup>, will that result in that one
node's value being updated and all other values in Startup shall remain
unchanged, even if some are different from the current Running object's
values?
 
Thank you,
 
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from<br class=3D"">participating in any contribution or discussion =
related to your<br class=3D"">undisclosed IPR. For more information, =
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href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProper=
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No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

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> On Dec 14, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Mahesh Jethanandani =
<mjethanandani@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Authors, Contributors, Working Group,
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> In preparation of sending the above documents for WGLC, we need to =
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> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to above stated draft?
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> Please state:
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> "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to these draft"
> or
> "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"
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> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules =
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?
>=20
> If yes to the above, please state either:
>=20
> "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
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> If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think =
appropriate.
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> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer =
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> TO LINES.
>=20
> If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not =
listed
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> the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
> aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
> participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
> undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed =
above
> and
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty =
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preparation of sending the above documents for WGLC, we need to find out =
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No I am not aware of any IPR that appleis to this draft.

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Authors, Contributors, WG,

As part of preparation for WG LC (which is planned for after the holidays):

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to the draft identified above?

Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
or
"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?

If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
or
"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
appropriate.


If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the
above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
stage until a response has been received from each author.

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed
as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above
and
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.

Please note, the reason that I am making this request rather than the
WG chairs is because both chairs are listed as authors on this document.

Thank you,
Rob (OPS AD)

PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
response.


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No, I am not not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Thanks.

> On Dec 15, 2020, at 9:43 AM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Authors, Contributors, WG,
>=20
> As part of preparation for WG LC (which is planned for after the =
holidays):
>=20
> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to the draft identified above?
>=20
> Please state either:
>=20
> "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
> or
> "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"
>=20
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
> (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?
>=20
> If yes to the above, please state either:
>=20
> "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
> or
> "No, the IPR has not been disclosed"
>=20
> If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
> appropriate.
>=20
>=20
> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer =
the
> above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
> aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
> stage until a response has been received from each author.
>=20
> NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.
>=20
> If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not =
listed
> as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
> the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
> aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
> participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
> undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed =
above
> and
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.
>=20
> Please note, the reason that I am making this request rather than the
> WG chairs is because both chairs are listed as authors on this =
document.
>=20
> Thank you,
> Rob (OPS AD)
>=20
> PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
> response.

Mahesh Jethanandani
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I am not not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Thanks.<br =
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class=3D"">Authors, Contributors, WG,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">As =
part of preparation for WG LC (which is planned for after the =
holidays):<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Are you aware of any IPR that =
applies to the draft identified above?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Please=
 state either:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">"No, I'm not aware of any =
IPR that applies to this draft"<br class=3D"">or<br class=3D"">"Yes, I'm =
aware of IPR that applies to this draft"<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If =
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class=3D""><br class=3D"">If yes to the above, please state either:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance =
with IETF IPR rules"<br class=3D"">or<br class=3D"">"No, the IPR has not =
been disclosed"<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If you answer no, please =
provide any additional details you think<br class=3D"">appropriate.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If you are listed as a document =
author or contributor please answer the<br class=3D"">above by =
responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are<br =
class=3D"">aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to =
the next<br class=3D"">stage until a response has been received from =
each author.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF =
YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If =
you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not listed<br =
class=3D"">as an author or contributor, we remind you of your =
obligations under<br class=3D"">the IETF IPR rules which encourages you =
to notify the IETF if you are<br class=3D"">aware of IPR of others on an =
IETF contribution, or to refrain from<br class=3D"">participating in any =
contribution or discussion related to your<br class=3D"">undisclosed =
IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above<br =
class=3D"">and<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProper=
ty" =
class=3D"">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualPro=
perty</a>.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Please note, the reason that I =
am making this request rather than the<br class=3D"">WG chairs is =
because both chairs are listed as authors on this document.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thank you,<br class=3D"">Rob (OPS AD)<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">PS Please include all listed in the headers of =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Mahesh Jethanandani</div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">mjethanandani@gmail.com</a></div><div class=3D""><br =
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No, I am not not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Kent (as co-author)


> On Dec 15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Authors, Contributors, WG,
>=20
> As part of preparation for WG LC (which is planned for after the =
holidays):
>=20
> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to the draft identified above?
>=20
> Please state either:
>=20
> "No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"
> or
> "Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"
>=20
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
> (see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?
>=20
> If yes to the above, please state either:
>=20
> "Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"
> or
> "No, the IPR has not been disclosed"
>=20
> If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think
> appropriate.
>=20
>=20
> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer =
the
> above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are
> aware of any relevant IPR. This document will not advance to the next
> stage until a response has been received from each author.
>=20
> NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.
>=20
> If you are on the WG email list or attend WG meetings but are not =
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> as an author or contributor, we remind you of your obligations under
> the IETF IPR rules which encourages you to notify the IETF if you are
> aware of IPR of others on an IETF contribution, or to refrain from
> participating in any contribution or discussion related to your
> undisclosed IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed =
above
> and
> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProperty.
>=20
> Please note, the reason that I am making this request rather than the
> WG chairs is because both chairs are listed as authors on this =
document.
>=20
> Thank you,
> Rob (OPS AD)
>=20
> PS Please include all listed in the headers of this message in your
> response.


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I am not not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.</span><div =
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class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec =
15, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rwilton@cisco.com" class=3D"">rwilton@cisco.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Authors, Contributors, WG,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">As =
part of preparation for WG LC (which is planned for after the =
holidays):<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Are you aware of any IPR that =
applies to the draft identified above?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Please=
 state either:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">"No, I'm not aware of any =
IPR that applies to this draft"<br class=3D"">or<br class=3D"">"Yes, I'm =
aware of IPR that applies to this draft"<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If =
so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules<br =
class=3D"">(see RFCs 3669, 5378 and 8179 for more details)?<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">If yes to the above, please state either:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance =
with IETF IPR rules"<br class=3D"">or<br class=3D"">"No, the IPR has not =
been disclosed"<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If you answer no, please =
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to notify the IETF if you are<br class=3D"">aware of IPR of others on an =
IETF contribution, or to refrain from<br class=3D"">participating in any =
contribution or discussion related to your<br class=3D"">undisclosed =
IPR. For more information, please see the RFCs listed above<br =
class=3D"">and<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualProper=
ty" =
class=3D"">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/IntellectualPro=
perty</a>.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Please note, the reason that I =
am making this request rather than the<br class=3D"">WG chairs is =
because both chairs are listed as authors on this document.<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thank you,<br class=3D"">Rob (OPS AD)<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">PS Please include all listed in the headers of =
this message in your<br class=3D"">response.<br =
class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8040,
"RESTCONF Protocol".

--------------------------------------
You may review the report below and at:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6362

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Type: Technical
Reported by: Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com>

Section: 4.3.

Original Text
-------------
   The client might request the response header fields for an XML
   representation of a specific "album" resource:

      GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\
         library/artist=Foo%20Fighters/album=Wasting%20Light HTTP/1.1
      Host: example.com
      Accept: application/yang-data+xml

   The server might respond as follows:

      HTTP/1.1 200 OK
      Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
      Server: example-server
      Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml
      Cache-Control: no-cache
      ETag: "a74eefc993a2b"
      Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:02:14 GMT

Corrected Text
--------------
   The client might request the response header fields for an XML
   representation of a specific "album" resource:

      GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\
         library/artist=Foo%20Fighters/album=Wasting%20Light HTTP/1.1
      Host: example.com
      Accept: application/yang-data+xml

   The server might respond as follows:

      HTTP/1.1 200 OK
      Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
      Server: example-server
      Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml
      Cache-Control: no-cache


Notes
-----
Removed the "ETag" and "Last-Modified" header fields.

According to Appendix B.3.1. :
   To retrieve only the configuration child resources, the "content"
   parameter is set to "config".  Note that the "ETag" and
   "Last-Modified" headers are only returned if the "content" parameter
   value is "config".

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RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)
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Title               : RESTCONF Protocol
Publication Date    : January 2017
Author(s)           : A. Bierman, M. Bjorklund, K. Watsen
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Network Configuration
Area                : Operations and Management
Stream              : IETF
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8040,
"RESTCONF Protocol".

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You may review the report below and at:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6363

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Type: Technical
Reported by: Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com>

Section: 4.8.2.

Original Text
-------------
   By default, the server will include all sub-resources within a
   retrieved resource that have the same resource type as the requested
   resource.  The exception is the datastore resource.  If this resource
   type is retrieved, then by default the datastore and all child data
   resources are returned.

Corrected Text
--------------
   By default, the server SHOULD include all sub-resources within a
   retrieved resource that have the same resource type as the requested
   resource.  The exception is the datastore resource.  If this resource
   type is retrieved, then by default the datastore and all child data
   resources are returned.

Notes
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Substitute "will" by "SHOULD".

Use one of the keywords of RFC2119 to clarify the expected server behavior.

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RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)
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Title               : RESTCONF Protocol
Publication Date    : January 2017
Author(s)           : A. Bierman, M. Bjorklund, K. Watsen
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Network Configuration
Area                : Operations and Management
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Hi,

This Errata should be rejected.
The cited text in non-normative Appendix B.3.1 is actually wrong.
The parameter content=all can also return these fields for configuration
data.


The normative text in 3.5.2 explains what to do.


3.5.2 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8040#section-3.5.2>.  Entity-Tag

   For configuration data resources, the server SHOULD maintain a
   resource entity-tag for each resource and return the "ETag" header
   field when it is retrieved as the target resource with the GET or
   HEAD methods.  If maintained, the resource entity-tag MUST be updated
   whenever the resource or any configuration resource within the
   resource is altered.  If not maintained, then the resource entity-tag
   for the datastore MUST be used instead.



Andy

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:34 AM RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
wrote:

> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8040,
> "RESTCONF Protocol".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6362
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com>
>
> Section: 4.3.
>
> Original Text
> -------------
>    The client might request the response header fields for an XML
>    representation of a specific "album" resource:
>
>       GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\
>          library/artist=Foo%20Fighters/album=Wasting%20Light HTTP/1.1
>       Host: example.com
>       Accept: application/yang-data+xml
>
>    The server might respond as follows:
>
>       HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>       Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
>       Server: example-server
>       Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml
>       Cache-Control: no-cache
>       ETag: "a74eefc993a2b"
>       Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:02:14 GMT
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
>    The client might request the response header fields for an XML
>    representation of a specific "album" resource:
>
>       GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\
>          library/artist=Foo%20Fighters/album=Wasting%20Light HTTP/1.1
>       Host: example.com
>       Accept: application/yang-data+xml
>
>    The server might respond as follows:
>
>       HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>       Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
>       Server: example-server
>       Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml
>       Cache-Control: no-cache
>
>
> Notes
> -----
> Removed the "ETag" and "Last-Modified" header fields.
>
> According to Appendix B.3.1. :
>    To retrieve only the configuration child resources, the "content"
>    parameter is set to "config".  Note that the "ETag" and
>    "Last-Modified" headers are only returned if the "content" parameter
>    value is "config".
>
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> --------------------------------------
> RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : RESTCONF Protocol
> Publication Date    : January 2017
> Author(s)           : A. Bierman, M. Bjorklund, K. Watsen
> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> Source              : Network Configuration
> Area                : Operations and Management
> Stream              : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>This Errata should be re=
jected.</div><div>The cited text in non-normative Appendix B.3.1 is actuall=
y wrong.</div><div>The parameter content=3Dall can also return these fields=
 for configuration data.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The normat=
ive text in 3.5.2 explains what to do.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><=
div><pre class=3D"gmail-newpage" style=3D"font-size:13.3333px;margin-top:0p=
x;margin-bottom:0px;break-before:page;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span class=3D"gmai=
l-h4" style=3D"display:inline;font-size:1em;font-weight:bold"><h4 style=3D"=
display:inline;font-size:1em"><a class=3D"gmail-selflink" name=3D"section-3=
.5.2" href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8040#section-3.5.2" style=3D"c=
olor:black;text-decoration-line:none">3.5.2</a>.  Entity-Tag</h4></span>

   For configuration data resources, the server SHOULD maintain a
   resource entity-tag for each resource and return the &quot;ETag&quot; he=
ader
   field when it is retrieved as the target resource with the GET or
   HEAD methods.  If maintained, the resource entity-tag MUST be updated
   whenever the resource or any configuration resource within the
   resource is altered.  If not maintained, then the resource entity-tag
   for the datastore MUST be used instead.
</pre><br class=3D"gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div><br></div>An=
dy<div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:34 AM RFC Errata System &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rf=
c-editor@rfc-editor.org">rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The following errata repo=
rt has been submitted for RFC8040,<br>
&quot;RESTCONF Protocol&quot;.<br>
<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
You may review the report below and at:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6362" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6362</a><br>
<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
Type: Technical<br>
Reported by: Muly Ilan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:muly_i@rad.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">muly_i@rad.com</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
Section: 4.3.<br>
<br>
Original Text<br>
-------------<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The client might request the response header fields for an XML=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0representation of a specific &quot;album&quot; resource:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0library/artist=3DFoo%20Fighters/album=3DW=
asting%20Light HTTP/1.1<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Host: <a href=3D"http://example.com" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">example.com</a><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Accept: application/yang-data+xml<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The server might respond as follows:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 HTTP/1.1 200 OK<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Server: example-server<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cache-Control: no-cache<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ETag: &quot;a74eefc993a2b&quot;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:02:14 GMT<br>
<br>
Corrected Text<br>
--------------<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The client might request the response header fields for an XML=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0representation of a specific &quot;album&quot; resource:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0library/artist=3DFoo%20Fighters/album=3DW=
asting%20Light HTTP/1.1<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Host: <a href=3D"http://example.com" rel=3D"noreferrer=
" target=3D"_blank">example.com</a><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Accept: application/yang-data+xml<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0The server might respond as follows:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 HTTP/1.1 200 OK<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Server: example-server<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cache-Control: no-cache<br>
<br>
<br>
Notes<br>
-----<br>
Removed the &quot;ETag&quot; and &quot;Last-Modified&quot; header fields.<b=
r>
<br>
According to Appendix B.3.1. :<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0To retrieve only the configuration child resources, the &quot;=
content&quot;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0parameter is set to &quot;config&quot;.=C2=A0 Note that the &q=
uot;ETag&quot; and<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0&quot;Last-Modified&quot; headers are only returned if the &qu=
ot;content&quot; parameter<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0value is &quot;config&quot;.<br>
<br>
Instructions:<br>
-------------<br>
This erratum is currently posted as &quot;Reported&quot;. If necessary, ple=
ase<br>
use &quot;Reply All&quot; to discuss whether it should be verified or<br>
rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party=C2=A0 <br>
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<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: RESTCONF Prot=
ocol<br>
Publication Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 : January 2017<br>
Author(s)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: A. Bierman, M. Bjorklun=
d, K. Watsen<br>
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Source=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Network Configurat=
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Hi Andy,

You are saying that the text in Appendix B.3.1 is wrong. Understood.

Please note that there's a specific example for "content=3Dall" in Appendix=
 B.3.1.  In this example the "ETag" and "Last-Modified" header fields are n=
ot used.
I was looking for a well-defined behavior for all the three options of the =
"content" query parameter.

Thanks,

Muly

From: Andy Bierman [mailto:andy@yumaworks.com]
Sent: 22/12/2020 16:58
To: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
Cc: Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com>; Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>; W=
arren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>; Robert Wilton <rwilton@cisco.com>; Kent W=
atsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>; Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>=
; Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com>; Netconf <netconf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8040 (6362)

Hi,

This Errata should be rejected.
The cited text in non-normative Appendix B.3.1 is actually wrong.
The parameter content=3Dall can also return these fields for configuration =
data.


The normative text in 3.5.2 explains what to do.


3.5.2<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ft=
ools.ietf.org%2Fhtml%2Frfc8040%23section-3.5.2&data=3D04%7C01%7Cmuly_i%40ra=
d.com%7C35e8783752fa459ae98a08d8a689f57a%7Cf9047108cc2c4e4897a343fad1b3bf9d=
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ctfforl%2BtjSz5EwWrCC6UQE6paC2Y%3D&reserved=3D0>.  Entity-Tag





   For configuration data resources, the server SHOULD maintain a

   resource entity-tag for each resource and return the "ETag" header

   field when it is retrieved as the target resource with the GET or

   HEAD methods.  If maintained, the resource entity-tag MUST be updated

   whenever the resource or any configuration resource within the

   resource is altered.  If not maintained, then the resource entity-tag

   for the datastore MUST be used instead.


Andy

On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:34 AM RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.or=
g<mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>> wrote:
The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8040,
"RESTCONF Protocol".

--------------------------------------
You may review the report below and at:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6362<https://eur01.safelinks.protectio=
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Type: Technical
Reported by: Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com<mailto:muly_i@rad.com>>

Section: 4.3.

Original Text
-------------
   The client might request the response header fields for an XML
   representation of a specific "album" resource:

      GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\
         library/artist=3DFoo%20Fighters/album=3DWasting%20Light HTTP/1.1
      Host: example.com<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2F&data=3D04%7C01%7Cmuly_i%40rad.com%7C35e87837=
52fa459ae98a08d8a689f57a%7Cf9047108cc2c4e4897a343fad1b3bf9d%7C1%7C0%7C63744=
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LLZTqPyufDyVtII%3D&reserved=3D0>
      Accept: application/yang-data+xml

   The server might respond as follows:

      HTTP/1.1 200 OK
      Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
      Server: example-server
      Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml
      Cache-Control: no-cache
      ETag: "a74eefc993a2b"
      Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:02:14 GMT

Corrected Text
--------------
   The client might request the response header fields for an XML
   representation of a specific "album" resource:

      GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\
         library/artist=3DFoo%20Fighters/album=3DWasting%20Light HTTP/1.1
      Host: example.com<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2F&data=3D04%7C01%7Cmuly_i%40rad.com%7C35e87837=
52fa459ae98a08d8a689f57a%7Cf9047108cc2c4e4897a343fad1b3bf9d%7C1%7C0%7C63744=
2458750563727%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiL=
CJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=3DFsU3K27Uav6bEaRklgGqDr11S5Yp%2=
FJEzebV5KyF2974%3D&reserved=3D0>
      Accept: application/yang-data+xml

   The server might respond as follows:

      HTTP/1.1 200 OK
      Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
      Server: example-server
      Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml
      Cache-Control: no-cache


Notes
-----
Removed the "ETag" and "Last-Modified" header fields.

According to Appendix B.3.1. :
   To retrieve only the configuration child resources, the "content"
   parameter is set to "config".  Note that the "ETag" and
   "Last-Modified" headers are only returned if the "content" parameter
   value is "config".

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RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)
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Title               : RESTCONF Protocol
Publication Date    : January 2017
Author(s)           : A. Bierman, M. Bjorklund, K. Watsen
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Network Configuration
Area                : Operations and Management
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hi Andy,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">You are saying that the text in Appen=
dix B.3.1 is wrong. Understood.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Please note that there&#8217;s a spec=
ific example for &#8220;content=3Dall&#8221; in Appendix B.3.1. &nbsp;In th=
is example the &#8220;ETag&#8221; and &#8220;Last-Modified&#8221; header fi=
elds are not used.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I was looking for a well-defined beha=
vior for all the three options of the &#8220;content&#8221; query parameter=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Muly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> Andy Bierman [mailto:andy@yuma=
works.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 22/12/2020 16:58<br>
<b>To:</b> RFC Errata System &lt;rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Martin Bjorklund &lt;mbj@tail-f.com&gt;; Kent Watsen &lt;kwatsen=
@juniper.net&gt;; Warren Kumari &lt;warren@kumari.net&gt;; Robert Wilton &l=
t;rwilton@cisco.com&gt;; Kent Watsen &lt;kent+ietf@watsen.net&gt;; Mahesh J=
ethanandani &lt;mjethanandani@gmail.com&gt;; Muly Ilan &lt;muly_i@rad.com&g=
t;;
 Netconf &lt;netconf@ietf.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8040 (6362)<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This Errata should be rejected.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The cited text in non-normative Appendix B.3.1 is ac=
tually wrong.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The parameter content=3Dall can also return these fi=
elds for configuration data.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The normative text in 3.5.2 explains what to do.<o:p=
></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<h4><a name=3D"section-3.5.2"></a><a href=3D"https://eur01.safelinks.protec=
tion.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftools.ietf.org%2Fhtml%2Frfc8040%23sec=
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Courier New&quot;;color:black">3.5.2</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;;color:black">.&nbsp;
 Entity-Tag<o:p></o:p></span></h4>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; For configuration data resour=
ces, the server SHOULD maintain a<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; resource entity-tag for each =
resource and return the &quot;ETag&quot; header<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; field when it is retrieved as=
 the target resource with the GET or<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; HEAD methods.&nbsp; If mainta=
ined, the resource entity-tag MUST be updated<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; whenever the resource or any =
configuration resource within the<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; resource is altered.&nbsp; If=
 not maintained, then the resource entity-tag<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; for the datastore MUST be use=
d instead.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Andy<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:34 AM RFC Errata System &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org">rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org</a=
>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The following errata report has been submitted for R=
FC8040,<br>
&quot;RESTCONF Protocol&quot;.<br>
<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
You may review the report below and at:<br>
<a href=3D"https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2=
F%2Fwww.rfc-editor.org%2Ferrata%2Feid6362&amp;data=3D04%7C01%7Cmuly_i%40rad=
.com%7C35e8783752fa459ae98a08d8a689f57a%7Cf9047108cc2c4e4897a343fad1b3bf9d%=
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ttps://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6362</a><br>
<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
Type: Technical<br>
Reported by: Muly Ilan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:muly_i@rad.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">muly_i@rad.com</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
Section: 4.3.<br>
<br>
Original Text<br>
-------------<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;The client might request the response header fields for an XML=
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;representation of a specific &quot;album&quot; resource:<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;library/artist=3DFoo%20Fighters/album=3DW=
asting%20Light HTTP/1.1<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Host: <a href=3D"https://eur01.safelinks.protection.ou=
tlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2F&amp;data=3D04%7C01%7Cmuly_i%40=
rad.com%7C35e8783752fa459ae98a08d8a689f57a%7Cf9047108cc2c4e4897a343fad1b3bf=
9d%7C1%7C0%7C637442458750553733%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDA=
iLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=3Dj6Qv7qb%=
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">
example.com</a><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Accept: application/yang-data+xml<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;The server might respond as follows:<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; HTTP/1.1 200 OK<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Server: example-server<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cache-Control: no-cache<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ETag: &quot;a74eefc993a2b&quot;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:02:14 GMT<br>
<br>
Corrected Text<br>
--------------<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;The client might request the response header fields for an XML=
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;representation of a specific &quot;album&quot; resource:<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;library/artist=3DFoo%20Fighters/album=3DW=
asting%20Light HTTP/1.1<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Host: <a href=3D"https://eur01.safelinks.protection.ou=
tlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2F&amp;data=3D04%7C01%7Cmuly_i%40=
rad.com%7C35e8783752fa459ae98a08d8a689f57a%7Cf9047108cc2c4e4897a343fad1b3bf=
9d%7C1%7C0%7C637442458750563727%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDA=
iLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=3DFsU3K27U=
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">
example.com</a><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Accept: application/yang-data+xml<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;The server might respond as follows:<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; HTTP/1.1 200 OK<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Server: example-server<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cache-Control: no-cache<br>
<br>
<br>
Notes<br>
-----<br>
Removed the &quot;ETag&quot; and &quot;Last-Modified&quot; header fields.<b=
r>
<br>
According to Appendix B.3.1. :<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;To retrieve only the configuration child resources, the &quot;=
content&quot;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;parameter is set to &quot;config&quot;.&nbsp; Note that the &q=
uot;ETag&quot; and<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;Last-Modified&quot; headers are only returned if the &qu=
ot;content&quot; parameter<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;value is &quot;config&quot;.<br>
<br>
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RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
Title&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: RESTCONF Prot=
ocol<br>
Publication Date&nbsp; &nbsp; : January 2017<br>
Author(s)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: A. Bierman, M. Bjorklun=
d, K. Watsen<br>
Category&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : PROPOSED STANDARD<br>
Source&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : Network Configurat=
ion<br>
Area&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : Operations an=
d Management<br>
Stream&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : IETF<br>
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Hi,

This errata should be rejected.
The proposed text changes the semantics of the paragraph.
The original word "will" is not ambiguous or used in error.


Andy


On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:40 AM RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
wrote:

> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8040,
> "RESTCONF Protocol".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6363
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com>
>
> Section: 4.8.2.
>
> Original Text
> -------------
>    By default, the server will include all sub-resources within a
>    retrieved resource that have the same resource type as the requested
>    resource.  The exception is the datastore resource.  If this resource
>    type is retrieved, then by default the datastore and all child data
>    resources are returned.
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
>    By default, the server SHOULD include all sub-resources within a
>    retrieved resource that have the same resource type as the requested
>    resource.  The exception is the datastore resource.  If this resource
>    type is retrieved, then by default the datastore and all child data
>    resources are returned.
>
> Notes
> -----
> Substitute "will" by "SHOULD".
>
> Use one of the keywords of RFC2119 to clarify the expected server behavior.
>
> Instructions:
> -------------
> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party
> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.
>
> --------------------------------------
> RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : RESTCONF Protocol
> Publication Date    : January 2017
> Author(s)           : A. Bierman, M. Bjorklund, K. Watsen
> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> Source              : Network Configuration
> Area                : Operations and Management
> Stream              : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>This errata should be rejected.</di=
v><div>The proposed text changes the semantics of the paragraph.</div><div>=
The original word &quot;will&quot; is not ambiguous=C2=A0or used in error.<=
/div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, De=
c 22, 2020 at 6:40 AM RFC Errata System &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfc-editor@rf=
c-editor.org">rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The following errata report has been=
 submitted for RFC8040,<br>
&quot;RESTCONF Protocol&quot;.<br>
<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
You may review the report below and at:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6363" rel=3D"noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6363</a><br>
<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
Type: Technical<br>
Reported by: Muly Ilan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:muly_i@rad.com" target=3D"_bla=
nk">muly_i@rad.com</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
Section: 4.8.2.<br>
<br>
Original Text<br>
-------------<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0By default, the server will include all sub-resources within a=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0retrieved resource that have the same resource type as the req=
uested<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0resource.=C2=A0 The exception is the datastore resource.=C2=A0=
 If this resource<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0type is retrieved, then by default the datastore and all child=
 data<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0resources are returned.<br>
<br>
Corrected Text<br>
--------------<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0By default, the server SHOULD include all sub-resources within=
 a<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0retrieved resource that have the same resource type as the req=
uested<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0resource.=C2=A0 The exception is the datastore resource.=C2=A0=
 If this resource<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0type is retrieved, then by default the datastore and all child=
 data<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0resources are returned.<br>
<br>
Notes<br>
-----<br>
Substitute &quot;will&quot; by &quot;SHOULD&quot;.<br>
<br>
Use one of the keywords of RFC2119 to clarify the expected server behavior.=
<br>
<br>
Instructions:<br>
-------------<br>
This erratum is currently posted as &quot;Reported&quot;. If necessary, ple=
ase<br>
use &quot;Reply All&quot; to discuss whether it should be verified or<br>
rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party=C2=A0 <br>
can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. <br>
<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)<br>
--------------------------------------<br>
Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: RESTCONF Prot=
ocol<br>
Publication Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 : January 2017<br>
Author(s)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: A. Bierman, M. Bjorklun=
d, K. Watsen<br>
Category=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : PROPOSED STANDARD<br>
Source=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Network Configurat=
ion<br>
Area=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Operations an=
d Management<br>
Stream=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : IETF<br>
Verifying Party=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: IESG<br>
</blockquote></div>

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> On Dec 22, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> This errata should be rejected.
> The proposed text changes the semantics of the paragraph.
> The original word "will" is not ambiguous or used in error.
>=20
>=20
> Andy
>=20
>=20
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:40 AM RFC Errata System =
<rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>> wrote:
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8040,
> "RESTCONF Protocol".
>=20
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6363 =
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6363>
>=20
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com <mailto:muly_i@rad.com>>
>=20
> Section: 4.8.2.
>=20
> Original Text
> -------------
>    By default, the server will include all sub-resources within a
>    retrieved resource that have the same resource type as the =
requested
>    resource.  The exception is the datastore resource.  If this =
resource
>    type is retrieved, then by default the datastore and all child data
>    resources are returned.
>=20
> Corrected Text
> --------------
>    By default, the server SHOULD include all sub-resources within a
>    retrieved resource that have the same resource type as the =
requested
>    resource.  The exception is the datastore resource.  If this =
resource
>    type is retrieved, then by default the datastore and all child data
>    resources are returned.
>=20
> Notes
> -----
> Substitute "will" by "SHOULD".
>=20
> Use one of the keywords of RFC2119 to clarify the expected server =
behavior.
>=20
> Instructions:
> -------------
> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party =20
> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.=20
>=20
> --------------------------------------
> RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : RESTCONF Protocol
> Publication Date    : January 2017
> Author(s)           : A. Bierman, M. Bjorklund, K. Watsen
> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> Source              : Network Configuration
> Area                : Operations and Management
> Stream              : IETF
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22, 2020, at 10:06 AM, Andy Bierman &lt;<a =
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class=3D"">This errata should be rejected.</div><div class=3D"">The =
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class=3D"">The original word "will" is not ambiguous&nbsp;or used in =
error.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Andy</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:40 AM RFC =
Errata System &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org" =
class=3D"">rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The following errata report has been =
submitted for RFC8040,<br class=3D"">
"RESTCONF Protocol".<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
--------------------------------------<br class=3D"">
You may review the report below and at:<br class=3D"">
<a href=3D"https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6363" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6363</a><br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
--------------------------------------<br class=3D"">
Type: Technical<br class=3D"">
Reported by: Muly Ilan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:muly_i@rad.com" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">muly_i@rad.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Section: 4.8.2.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Original Text<br class=3D"">
-------------<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;By default, the server will include all sub-resources =
within a<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;retrieved resource that have the same resource type as the =
requested<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;resource.&nbsp; The exception is the datastore =
resource.&nbsp; If this resource<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;type is retrieved, then by default the datastore and all =
child data<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;resources are returned.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Corrected Text<br class=3D"">
--------------<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;By default, the server SHOULD include all sub-resources =
within a<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;retrieved resource that have the same resource type as the =
requested<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;resource.&nbsp; The exception is the datastore =
resource.&nbsp; If this resource<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;type is retrieved, then by default the datastore and all =
child data<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;resources are returned.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Notes<br class=3D"">
-----<br class=3D"">
Substitute "will" by "SHOULD".<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Use one of the keywords of RFC2119 to clarify the expected server =
behavior.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Instructions:<br class=3D"">
-------------<br class=3D"">
This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please<br =
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rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party&nbsp; <br =
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can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. <br =
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<br class=3D"">
--------------------------------------<br class=3D"">
RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)<br class=3D"">
--------------------------------------<br class=3D"">
Title&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: RESTCONF =
Protocol<br class=3D"">
Publication Date&nbsp; &nbsp; : January 2017<br class=3D"">
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The example uses =E2=80=9C/data=E2=80=9D, i.e., the unified datastore, =
which may contain operational data.  I guess that, for /data, it could =
be said that any "ETag" and "Last-Modified=E2=80=9D headers only reflect =
the =E2=80=9Cconfig true=E2=80=9D data present, in which case Andy=E2=80=99=
s interpretation makes sense.

But this is not true for NMDA=E2=80=99s <operational>, where said =
headers likely should never be returned, even if the =E2=80=9Ccontent=E2=80=
=9D parameter is =E2=80=9Cconfig=E2=80=9D. =20

For NMDA=E2=80=99s <running>, it seems that the headers should always be =
returned, even when the =E2=80=9Ccontent=E2=80=9D parameter is not =
specified, as Andy states.  I=E2=80=99m assuming content=3Dnonconfig on =
<running> is an error case, or at least a non-sensical case..

K.


> On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
>=20
> This Errata should be rejected.
> The cited text in non-normative Appendix B.3.1 is actually wrong.
> The parameter content=3Dall can also return these fields for =
configuration data.
>=20
>=20
> The normative text in 3.5.2 explains what to do.
>=20
>=20
> 3.5.2 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8040#section-3.5.2>.  Entity-Tag
>=20
>    For configuration data resources, the server SHOULD maintain a
>    resource entity-tag for each resource and return the "ETag" header
>    field when it is retrieved as the target resource with the GET or
>    HEAD methods.  If maintained, the resource entity-tag MUST be =
updated
>    whenever the resource or any configuration resource within the
>    resource is altered.  If not maintained, then the resource =
entity-tag
>    for the datastore MUST be used instead.
>=20
>=20
> Andy
>=20
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 6:34 AM RFC Errata System =
<rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org <mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>> wrote:
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8040,
> "RESTCONF Protocol".
>=20
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6362 =
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6362>
>=20
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Technical
> Reported by: Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com <mailto:muly_i@rad.com>>
>=20
> Section: 4.3.
>=20
> Original Text
> -------------
>    The client might request the response header fields for an XML
>    representation of a specific "album" resource:
>=20
>       GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\
>          library/artist=3DFoo%20Fighters/album=3DWasting%20Light =
HTTP/1.1
>       Host: example.com <http://example.com/>
>       Accept: application/yang-data+xml
>=20
>    The server might respond as follows:
>=20
>       HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>       Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
>       Server: example-server
>       Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml
>       Cache-Control: no-cache
>       ETag: "a74eefc993a2b"
>       Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:02:14 GMT
>=20
> Corrected Text
> --------------
>    The client might request the response header fields for an XML
>    representation of a specific "album" resource:
>=20
>       GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\
>          library/artist=3DFoo%20Fighters/album=3DWasting%20Light =
HTTP/1.1
>       Host: example.com <http://example.com/>
>       Accept: application/yang-data+xml
>=20
>    The server might respond as follows:
>=20
>       HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>       Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT
>       Server: example-server
>       Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml
>       Cache-Control: no-cache
>=20
>=20
> Notes
> -----
> Removed the "ETag" and "Last-Modified" header fields.
>=20
> According to Appendix B.3.1. :
>    To retrieve only the configuration child resources, the "content"
>    parameter is set to "config".  Note that the "ETag" and
>    "Last-Modified" headers are only returned if the "content" =
parameter
>    value is "config".
>=20
> Instructions:
> -------------
> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party =20
> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.=20
>=20
> --------------------------------------
> RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : RESTCONF Protocol
> Publication Date    : January 2017
> Author(s)           : A. Bierman, M. Bjorklund, K. Watsen
> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> Source              : Network Configuration
> Area                : Operations and Management
> Stream              : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The example uses =
=E2=80=9C/data=E2=80=9D, i.e., the unified datastore, which may contain =
operational data. &nbsp;I guess that, for /data, it could be said that =
any "ETag" and "Last-Modified=E2=80=9D headers only reflect the =
=E2=80=9Cconfig true=E2=80=9D data present, in which case Andy=E2=80=99s =
interpretation makes sense.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D"">But this is not true for NMDA=E2=80=99s &lt;operational&gt;, =
where said headers likely should never be returned, even if the =
=E2=80=9Ccontent=E2=80=9D parameter is =E2=80=9Cconfig=E2=80=9D. =
&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">For =
NMDA=E2=80=99s &lt;running&gt;, it seems that the headers should always =
be returned, even when the =E2=80=9Ccontent=E2=80=9D parameter is not =
specified, as Andy states. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99m assuming content=3Dnonconfig =
on &lt;running&gt; is an error case, or at least a non-sensical =
case..</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">K.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec 22, 2020, at 9:57 AM, Andy Bierman =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:andy@yumaworks.com" =
class=3D"">andy@yumaworks.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hi,</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This Errata should be =
rejected.</div><div class=3D"">The cited text in non-normative Appendix =
B.3.1 is actually wrong.</div><div class=3D"">The parameter content=3Dall =
can also return these fields for configuration data.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The normative text in 3.5.2 explains what to do.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><pre class=3D"gmail-newpage" style=3D"font-size: 13.3333px; =
margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; break-before: page;"><span =
class=3D"gmail-h4" =
style=3D"display:inline;font-size:1em;font-weight:bold"><h4 =
style=3D"display:inline;font-size:1em" class=3D""><a =
class=3D"gmail-selflink" name=3D"section-3.5.2" =
href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8040#section-3.5.2" =
style=3D"text-decoration-line: none;">3.5.2</a>.  Entity-Tag</h4></span>

   For configuration data resources, the server SHOULD maintain a
   resource entity-tag for each resource and return the "ETag" header
   field when it is retrieved as the target resource with the GET or
   HEAD methods.  If maintained, the resource entity-tag MUST be updated
   whenever the resource or any configuration resource within the
   resource is altered.  If not maintained, then the resource entity-tag
   for the datastore MUST be used instead.
</pre><br class=3D"gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Andy<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec =
22, 2020 at 6:34 AM RFC Errata System &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org" =
class=3D"">rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The following errata report has been =
submitted for RFC8040,<br class=3D"">
"RESTCONF Protocol".<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
--------------------------------------<br class=3D"">
You may review the report below and at:<br class=3D"">
<a href=3D"https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6362" rel=3D"noreferrer" =
target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6362</a><br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
--------------------------------------<br class=3D"">
Type: Technical<br class=3D"">
Reported by: Muly Ilan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:muly_i@rad.com" =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">muly_i@rad.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Section: 4.3.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Original Text<br class=3D"">
-------------<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;The client might request the response header fields for an =
XML<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;representation of a specific "album" resource:<br class=3D"">=

<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\<br =
class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;library/artist=3DFoo%20Fighters/album=3DWasting%20Light =
HTTP/1.1<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Host: <a href=3D"http://example.com/" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">example.com</a><br =
class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Accept: application/yang-data+xml<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;The server might respond as follows:<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; HTTP/1.1 200 OK<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Server: example-server<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml<br =
class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cache-Control: no-cache<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ETag: "a74eefc993a2b"<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Last-Modified: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:02:14 GMT<br =
class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Corrected Text<br class=3D"">
--------------<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;The client might request the response header fields for an =
XML<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;representation of a specific "album" resource:<br class=3D"">=

<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; GET /restconf/data/example-jukebox:jukebox/\<br =
class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp;library/artist=3DFoo%20Fighters/album=3DWasting%20Light =
HTTP/1.1<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Host: <a href=3D"http://example.com/" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">example.com</a><br =
class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Accept: application/yang-data+xml<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;The server might respond as follows:<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; HTTP/1.1 200 OK<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:56:30 GMT<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Server: example-server<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Content-Type: application/yang-data+xml<br =
class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Cache-Control: no-cache<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Notes<br class=3D"">
-----<br class=3D"">
Removed the "ETag" and "Last-Modified" header fields.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
According to Appendix B.3.1. :<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;To retrieve only the configuration child resources, the =
"content"<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;parameter is set to "config".&nbsp; Note that the "ETag" =
and<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;"Last-Modified" headers are only returned if the "content" =
parameter<br class=3D"">
&nbsp; &nbsp;value is "config".<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Instructions:<br class=3D"">
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This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please<br =
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use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or<br class=3D"">=

rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party&nbsp; <br =
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can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. <br =
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<br class=3D"">
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RFC8040 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-18)<br class=3D"">
--------------------------------------<br class=3D"">
Title&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: RESTCONF =
Protocol<br class=3D"">
Publication Date&nbsp; &nbsp; : January 2017<br class=3D"">
Author(s)&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: A. Bierman, M. =
Bjorklund, K. Watsen<br class=3D"">
Category&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : PROPOSED STANDARD<br =
class=3D"">
Source&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : Network =
Configuration<br class=3D"">
Area&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : Operations =
and Management<br class=3D"">
Stream&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : IETF<br =
class=3D"">
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Hi Yoav,

I finally found some time  :sigh:   ;)

Please see below for responses to your comments.

Kent


> On Oct 2, 2020, at 7:20 AM, Kent Watsen <kent@watsen.net> wrote:
>=20
> [-last-call]
>=20
> Hi Yoav,
>=20
> Thank you for your review!  The takeaway for me is that some =
clarifications are needed, but otherwise the draft is fundamentally =
okay.  I will post an update, or perhaps just a GitHub commit, for your =
review, when I get a chance.  That said, my getting a chance will be =
delayed as I have a major engagement I need to focus on now.  This email =
is just to let you know that your review has not been forgotten.
>=20
> Thanks again,
> Kent
>=20
>=20
>> On Sep 25, 2020, at 7:02 PM, Yoav Nir via Datatracker =
<noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
>>=20
>> Reviewer: Yoav Nir
>> Review result: Has Issues
>>=20
>> I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's =
ongoing
>> effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  =
These
>> comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area =
directors.
>> Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like =
any other
>> last call comments.
>>=20
>> The document defines a YANG model for managing a trust anchor store. =
It allows
>> two kinds of trust anchors: certificates and raw public keys. =
However,
>> certificates are not just containers for public keys. Certificates =
include
>> attributes about key usage, path constraints and name constraints, =
all of which
>> constrain the ability to use the public key, and are relevant for =
trust
>> anchors. As far as I can tell the document does not include any =
attributes to
>> equivalently constrain the use of the raw public keys.  If the =
intention is
>> that raw public keys will not be constrained, the document should =
state this
>> explicitly.

Good catch.  You=E2=80=99re right that this document is not constraining =
the raw keys in the truststore.  Looking deeper, I see that the keys are =
unconstrained in both the =E2=80=9Ckeystore=E2=80=9D draft and the =
common =E2=80=9Ccrypto-types=E2=80=9D draft.  It seems like the right =
thing to do is to put a Security Consideration note into each draft.  =
Something like this?

   4.2.  Unconstrained Public Key Usage

      This module enables the configuration of public keys without
      constraints on their usage, e.g., what operations the key is =
allowed
      to be used for (encryption, verification, both).

      This module also enables the configuration of certificates, where
      each certificate may constrain the usage of the public key =
according
      to local policy.

Thoughts?


>> Perhaps this is clear to the people who worked on the document, but =
it's not
>> clear to me.  Are the trust anchors managed with this module supposed =
to be
>> used to establish trust for the NETCONF or RESTCONF connections?  =
Section 1.1
>> seems to suggest that it does, but then how is the bootstrap problem =
solved?
>> How do we establish the NETCONF connection the first time, and if we =
are able
>> to do that, why do we need more certificates?  If the answer is no, =
and the
>> certificates are to be used by other protocols, then perhaps some =
re-wording in
>> section 1.1 would help to show this. Currently, it says: "This =
document
>> presents ... YANG modules that are part of a collection of RFCs ... =
define
>> configuration modules for clients and servers of both the NETCONF and =
RESTCONF
>> protocols."

Answering your question: Yes, the trust anchors may be used to establish =
trust for NETCONF and RESTCONF connections.   The trust anchors may also =
be used by other models (e.g., other TLS-based protocols), created =
outside the effort described in Section 1.1.

For the bootstrap problem, Section 3 (Support for Built-in Trust =
Anchors) shows how a system may be shipped from a Manufacturer=E2=80=99s =
facility with preconfigured trust-anchors.  FWIW, the =E2=80=9Ckeystore=E2=
=80=9D draft separately defines how a system can be shipped from a =
Manufacturer=E2=80=99s facility with preconfigured private keys (e.g., =
using a TPM-protected key).

You suggest rewording the first paragraph in 1.1.  First, I have to =
assume you saw the second paragraph, that says that the modules have =
been defined to be used by other efforts, so my best guess is:

OLD:
This document presents one or more YANG modules [RFC7950] that are part =
of a collection of RFCs that work together to define configuration =
modules for clients and servers of both the NETCONF [RFC6241] and =
RESTCONF [RFC8040] protocols.

NEW:
This document presents one or more YANG modules [RFC7950] that are part =
of a collection of RFCs that work together to, ultimately, enable the =
configuration of the clients and servers of both the NETCONF [RFC6241] =
and RESTCONF [RFC8040] protocols.

Please let me know what you had in mind, if something different.


>> The security considerations section is OK, especially sub-section =
4.2.

Thanks.


>> Sub-section 4.1 has the following:
>>=20
>>  The YANG module defined in this document defines a mechanism called =
a
>>  "truststore" that, by its name, suggests that it will protect its
>>  contents from unauthorized modification.
>>=20
>> Perhaps this is my different perspective, but the name doesn't lead =
me to
>> expect that it protects its contents.  I think that the document =
should either
>> just suggest that some mechanism to prevent unauthorized modification =
should be
>> used, or to present such a mechanism in detail. The current text =
suggests is
>> partially specific by mentioning digital signatures and non-volatile =
storage,
>> but not explaining where the trust for the digital signature comes =
from and
>> what policies govern its us:
>>=20
>>  In order to satisfy the expectations of a "truststore", it is
>>  RECOMMENDED that implementations ensure that the truststore contents
>>  are signed when persisted to non-volatile memory, to prevent
>>  unauthorized modifications from being made undetected.
>>=20
>> It is too vague to be a specification, but still unnecessarily =
constrains the
>> solution space. I think the correct thing to do is to be explicitly =
vague and
>> to just suggest some mechanism for protecting the content.

Agreed.

OLD:
In order to satisfy the expectations of a "truststore", it is =
RECOMMENDED that implementations ensure that the truststore contents are =
signed when persisted to non-volatile memory, to prevent unauthorized =
modifications from being made undetected.

NEW:
In order to satisfy the expectations of a "truststore", it is =
RECOMMENDED that implementations ensure that the truststore contents are =
protected from unauthorized modifications when at rest.

What do you think?


Thanks,
Kent (as editor/author)





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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8639,
"Subscription to YANG Notifications".

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com>

Section: 4.

Original Text
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  feature subtree {
    description
      "This feature indicates support for YANG subtree filtering.";
    reference
      "RFC 6241: Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF),
                 Section 6";
  }

  feature supports-vrf {
    description
      "This feature indicates that a publisher supports VRF
       configuration for configured subscriptions.  VRF support for
       dynamic subscriptions does not require this feature.";
    reference
      "RFC 8529: YANG Data Model for Network Instances,
                 Section 6";
  }

Corrected Text
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  feature subtree {
    description
      "This feature indicates support for YANG subtree filtering.";
    reference
      "RFC 6241: Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF),
                 Section 6";
  }

  feature supports-vrf {
    description
      "This feature indicates that a publisher supports VRF
       configuration for configured subscriptions.  VRF support for
       dynamic subscriptions does not require this feature.";
    reference
      "RFC 8529: YANG Data Model for Network Instances,
                 Section 6";
  }

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In the HTML version the two hyperlinks "Section 6" (for 'subtree' feature and for 'supports-vrf' feature) point to wrong RFCs.

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RFC8639 (draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-26)
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Title               : Subscription to YANG Notifications
Publication Date    : September 2019
Author(s)           : E. Voit, A. Clemm, A. Gonzalez Prieto, E. Nilsen-Nygaard, A. Tripathy
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Network Configuration
Area                : Operations and Management
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8650,
"Dynamic Subscription to YANG Events and Datastores over RESTCONF".

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Section: A.1.3

Original Text
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A.1.3.  Deleting Dynamic Subscriptions

   The following demonstrates deleting a subscription.  This
   subscription may have been to either a stream or a datastore.

   POST /restconf/operations
        /ietf-subscribed-notifications:delete-subscription

   {
    "delete-subscription": {
       "id": "22"
    }
   }


Corrected Text
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A.1.3.  Deleting Dynamic Subscriptions

   The following demonstrates deleting a subscription.  This
   subscription may have been to either a stream or a datastore.

   POST /restconf/operations
        /ietf-subscribed-notifications:delete-subscription

   {
    "ietf-subscribed-notifications:input": {
       "id": "22"
    }
   }


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RFC8650 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif-15)
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Title               : Dynamic Subscription to YANG Events and Datastores over RESTCONF
Publication Date    : November 2019
Author(s)           : E. Voit, R. Rahman, E. Nilsen-Nygaard, A. Clemm, A. Bierman
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Network Configuration
Area                : Operations and Management
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8650,
"Dynamic Subscription to YANG Events and Datastores over RESTCONF".

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Section: A.2.1

Original Text
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A.2.1.  "subscription-modified"

   A "subscription-modified" encoded in JSON would look like:

   {
     "ietf-restconf:notification" : {
       "eventTime": "2007-09-01T10:00:00Z",
       "ietf-subscribed-notifications:subscription-modified": {
         "id": 39,
         "uri": "https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/22"
         "stream-xpath-filter": "/example-module:foo",
         "stream": {
            "ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications" : "NETCONF"
         }
       }
     }
   }

Corrected Text
--------------
A.2.1.  "subscription-modified"

   A "subscription-modified" encoded in JSON would look like:

   {
     "ietf-restconf:notification" : {
       "eventTime": "2007-09-01T10:00:00Z",
       "ietf-subscribed-notifications:subscription-modified": {
         "id": 22,
         "uri": "https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/22"
         "stream-xpath-filter": "/example-module:foo",
         "stream": {
            "ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications" : "NETCONF"
         }
       }
     }
   }

Notes
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Subscription ID should be 22 instead of 39.

An existing subscription ID cannot be changed. According to the previous examples in Appendix A the subscription got the ID 22. Also the example URI indicates ID of 22.

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RFC8650 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif-15)
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Title               : Dynamic Subscription to YANG Events and Datastores over RESTCONF
Publication Date    : November 2019
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Rather than changing the subscription from 22 to 39, the URI should be made:
https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/39

Reasons:
(1) There is no assumption that the subscription is the same one as for the 
previous example.
(2) We want to keep the examples in lock-step with RFC8640.

Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 9:56 AM
> To: Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com>; Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
> <rrahman@cisco.com>; Einar Nilsen-Nygaard (einarnn) <einarnn@cisco.com>;
> ludwig@clemm.org; andy@yumaworks.com; warren@kumari.net; Rob Wilton
> (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>; kent+ietf@watsen.net;
> mjethanandani@gmail.com
> Cc: muly_i@rad.com; netconf@ietf.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
> Subject: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8650 (6368)
>
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8650, "Dynamic
> Subscription to YANG Events and Datastores over RESTCONF".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6368
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Editorial
> Reported by: Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com>
>
> Section: A.2.1
>
> Original Text
> -------------
> A.2.1.  "subscription-modified"
>
>    A "subscription-modified" encoded in JSON would look like:
>
>    {
>      "ietf-restconf:notification" : {
>        "eventTime": "2007-09-01T10:00:00Z",
>        "ietf-subscribed-notifications:subscription-modified": {
>          "id": 39,
>          "uri": "https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/22"
>          "stream-xpath-filter": "/example-module:foo",
>          "stream": {
>             "ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications" : "NETCONF"
>          }
>        }
>      }
>    }
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
> A.2.1.  "subscription-modified"
>
>    A "subscription-modified" encoded in JSON would look like:
>
>    {
>      "ietf-restconf:notification" : {
>        "eventTime": "2007-09-01T10:00:00Z",
>        "ietf-subscribed-notifications:subscription-modified": {
>          "id": 22,
>          "uri": "https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/22"
>          "stream-xpath-filter": "/example-module:foo",
>          "stream": {
>             "ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications" : "NETCONF"
>          }
>        }
>      }
>    }
>
> Notes
> -----
> Subscription ID should be 22 instead of 39.
>
> An existing subscription ID cannot be changed. According to the previous
> examples in Appendix A the subscription got the ID 22. Also the example URI
> indicates ID of 22.
>
> Instructions:
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> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use 
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> necessary.
>
> --------------------------------------
> RFC8650 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif-15)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : Dynamic Subscription to YANG Events and Datastores 
> over
> RESTCONF
> Publication Date    : November 2019
> Author(s)           : E. Voit, R. Rahman, E. Nilsen-Nygaard, A. Clemm, A. 
> Bierman
> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> Source              : Network Configuration
> Area                : Operations and Management
> Stream              : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG

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Hi Eric,

Thank you for you comment.  But note that the errata system is binary, =
either an errata is accepted or rejected.  To do what you say entails =
rejecting this errata and submitting a different one to say it,  Is this =
what you advocate?

Thanks,
Kent


> On Dec 24, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Rather than changing the subscription from 22 to 39, the URI should be =
made:
> https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/39
>=20
> Reasons:
> (1) There is no assumption that the subscription is the same one as =
for the=20
> previous example.
> (2) We want to keep the examples in lock-step with RFC8640.
>=20
> Eric


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From: "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com>
To: Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>
CC: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>, "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <rrahman@cisco.com>, "Einar Nilsen-Nygaard (einarnn)" <einarnn@cisco.com>, "ludwig@clemm.org" <ludwig@clemm.org>, "andy@yumaworks.com" <andy@yumaworks.com>, "warren@kumari.net" <warren@kumari.net>, "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>, Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com>, "muly_i@rad.com" <muly_i@rad.com>, "netconf@ietf.org" <netconf@ietf.org>
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Yes, that is what I suggest: that we change '22' to '39' in the URI.

Eric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 11:23 AM
> To: Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com>
> Cc: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>; Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
> <rrahman@cisco.com>; Einar Nilsen-Nygaard (einarnn) <einarnn@cisco.com>;
> ludwig@clemm.org; andy@yumaworks.com; warren@kumari.net; Rob Wilton
> (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>; Mahesh Jethanandani
> <mjethanandani@gmail.com>; muly_i@rad.com; netconf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8650 (6368)
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> Thank you for you comment.  But note that the errata system is binary,
either an
> errata is accepted or rejected.  To do what you say entails rejecting this
errata
> and submitting a different one to say it,  Is this what you advocate?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kent
> 
> 
> > On Dec 24, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rather than changing the subscription from 22 to 39, the URI should be
made:
> > https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/39
> >
> > Reasons:
> > (1) There is no assumption that the subscription is the same one as
> > for the previous example.
> > (2) We want to keep the examples in lock-step with RFC8640.
> >
> > Eric


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+1.=20

=EF=BB=BFOn 2020-12-24, 1:27 PM, "netconf on behalf of Eric Voit (evoit)" <netcon=
f-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of evoit=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

    Yes, that is what I suggest: that we change '22' to '39' in the URI.

    Eric

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>
    > Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 11:23 AM
    > To: Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com>
    > Cc: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>; Reshad Rahman (rra=
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    > Subject: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8650 (6368)
    >=20
    > Hi Eric,
    >=20
    > Thank you for you comment.  But note that the errata system is binary=
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    either an
    > errata is accepted or rejected.  To do what you say entails rejecting=
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    errata
    > and submitting a different one to say it,  Is this what you advocate?
    >=20
    > Thanks,
    > Kent
    >=20
    >=20
    > > On Dec 24, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com> w=
rote:
    > >
    > > Rather than changing the subscription from 22 to 39, the URI should=
 be
    made:
    > > https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/39
    > >
    > > Reasons:
    > > (1) There is no assumption that the subscription is the same one as
    > > for the previous example.
    > > (2) We want to keep the examples in lock-step with RFC8640.
    > >
    > > Eric

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This is a limitation of the script that mechanically generates HTML from 
legacy text RFCs.  There are no hyperlinks in the RFC itself.  Reject, please.

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020, RFC Errata System wrote:

> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8639,
> "Subscription to YANG Notifications".
>
> --------------------------------------
> You may review the report below and at:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6366
>
> --------------------------------------
> Type: Editorial
> Reported by: Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com>
>
> Section: 4.
>
> Original Text
> -------------
>  feature subtree {
>    description
>      "This feature indicates support for YANG subtree filtering.";
>    reference
>      "RFC 6241: Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF),
>                 Section 6";
>  }
>
>  feature supports-vrf {
>    description
>      "This feature indicates that a publisher supports VRF
>       configuration for configured subscriptions.  VRF support for
>       dynamic subscriptions does not require this feature.";
>    reference
>      "RFC 8529: YANG Data Model for Network Instances,
>                 Section 6";
>  }
>
> Corrected Text
> --------------
>  feature subtree {
>    description
>      "This feature indicates support for YANG subtree filtering.";
>    reference
>      "RFC 6241: Network Configuration Protocol (NETCONF),
>                 Section 6";
>  }
>
>  feature supports-vrf {
>    description
>      "This feature indicates that a publisher supports VRF
>       configuration for configured subscriptions.  VRF support for
>       dynamic subscriptions does not require this feature.";
>    reference
>      "RFC 8529: YANG Data Model for Network Instances,
>                 Section 6";
>  }
>
> Notes
> -----
> In the HTML version the two hyperlinks "Section 6" (for 'subtree' feature and for 'supports-vrf' feature) point to wrong RFCs.
>
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>
> --------------------------------------
> RFC8639 (draft-ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications-26)
> --------------------------------------
> Title               : Subscription to YANG Notifications
> Publication Date    : September 2019
> Author(s)           : E. Voit, A. Clemm, A. Gonzalez Prieto, E. Nilsen-Nygaard, A. Tripathy
> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
> Source              : Network Configuration
> Area                : Operations and Management
> Stream              : IETF
> Verifying Party     : IESG
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Let it be noted that this Errata (6368) is rejected.

Muly, please submit another Errata with the solution forwarded by Eric.

Kent // as co-Chair


> On Dec 24, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Reshad Rahman <reshad@yahoo.com> wrote:
>=20
> +1.=20
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFOn 2020-12-24, 1:27 PM, "netconf on behalf of Eric Voit =
(evoit)" <netconf-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of =
evoit=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>=20
>    Yes, that is what I suggest: that we change '22' to '39' in the =
URI.
>=20
>    Eric
>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kent Watsen <kent+ietf@watsen.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 11:23 AM
>> To: Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com>
>> Cc: RFC Errata System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>; Reshad Rahman =
(rrahman)
>> <rrahman@cisco.com>; Einar Nilsen-Nygaard (einarnn) =
<einarnn@cisco.com>;
>> ludwig@clemm.org; andy@yumaworks.com; warren@kumari.net; Rob Wilton
>> (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>; Mahesh Jethanandani
>> <mjethanandani@gmail.com>; muly_i@rad.com; netconf@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8650 (6368)
>>=20
>> Hi Eric,
>>=20
>> Thank you for you comment.  But note that the errata system is =
binary,
>    either an
>> errata is accepted or rejected.  To do what you say entails rejecting =
this
>    errata
>> and submitting a different one to say it,  Is this what you advocate?
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Kent
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Dec 24, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Eric Voit (evoit) <evoit@cisco.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Rather than changing the subscription from 22 to 39, the URI should =
be
>    made:
>>> https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/39
>>>=20
>>> Reasons:
>>> (1) There is no assumption that the subscription is the same one as
>>> for the previous example.
>>> (2) We want to keep the examples in lock-step with RFC8640.
>>>=20
>>> Eric
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Let =
it be noted that this Errata (6368) is rejected.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"">Muly, please submit =
another Errata with the&nbsp;solution forwarded by =
Eric.</span></font></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"">Kent // as co-Chair</span></font></div><div =
class=3D""><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></font><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec =
24, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Reshad Rahman &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:reshad@yahoo.com" class=3D"">reshad@yahoo.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">+1. <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">=EF=BB=BFOn 2020-12-24, =
1:27 PM, "netconf on behalf of Eric Voit (evoit)" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:netconf-bounces@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">netconf-bounces@ietf.org</a> on behalf of <a =
href=3D"mailto:evoit=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org" =
class=3D"">evoit=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yes, that is what I =
suggest: that we change '22' to '39' in the URI.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Eric<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">-----Original =
Message-----<br class=3D"">From: Kent Watsen &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kent+ietf@watsen.net" =
class=3D"">kent+ietf@watsen.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Thursday, =
December 24, 2020 11:23 AM<br class=3D"">To: Eric Voit (evoit) &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:evoit@cisco.com" class=3D"">evoit@cisco.com</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Cc: RFC Errata System &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org" =
class=3D"">rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org</a>&gt;; Reshad Rahman (rrahman)<br =
class=3D"">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrahman@cisco.com" =
class=3D"">rrahman@cisco.com</a>&gt;; Einar Nilsen-Nygaard (einarnn) =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:einarnn@cisco.com" =
class=3D"">einarnn@cisco.com</a>&gt;;<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:ludwig@clemm.org" class=3D"">ludwig@clemm.org</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:andy@yumaworks.com" class=3D"">andy@yumaworks.com</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:warren@kumari.net" class=3D"">warren@kumari.net</a>; Rob =
Wilton<br class=3D"">(rwilton) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rwilton@cisco.com" =
class=3D"">rwilton@cisco.com</a>&gt;; Mahesh Jethanandani<br =
class=3D"">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">mjethanandani@gmail.com</a>&gt;; <a =
href=3D"mailto:muly_i@rad.com" class=3D"">muly_i@rad.com</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:netconf@ietf.org" class=3D"">netconf@ietf.org</a><br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC8650 (6368)<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Hi Eric,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thank =
you for you comment. &nbsp;But note that the errata system is binary,<br =
class=3D""></blockquote> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;either an<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">errata is accepted or =
rejected. &nbsp;To do what you say entails rejecting this<br =
class=3D""></blockquote> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;errata<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">and submitting a =
different one to say it, &nbsp;Is this what you advocate?<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks,<br class=3D"">Kent<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Dec =
24, 2020, at 10:14 AM, Eric Voit (evoit) &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:evoit@cisco.com" class=3D"">evoit@cisco.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Rather than changing the =
subscription from 22 to 39, the URI should be<br =
class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;made:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><a href=3D"https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/39" =
class=3D"">https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/39</a><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Reasons:<br class=3D"">(1) There is no =
assumption that the subscription is the same one as<br class=3D"">for =
the previous example.<br class=3D"">(2) We want to keep the examples in =
lock-step with RFC8640.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Eric<br =
class=3D""></blockquote></blockquote><br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;_______________________________________________<br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;netconf mailing list<br class=3D""> =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:netconf@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">netconf@ietf.org</a><br class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8650,
"Dynamic Subscription to YANG Events and Datastores over RESTCONF".

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You may review the report below and at:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6369

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Muly Ilan <muly_i@rad.com>

Section: A.2.1

Original Text
-------------
A.2.1.  "subscription-modified"

   A "subscription-modified" encoded in JSON would look like:

   {
     "ietf-restconf:notification" : {
       "eventTime": "2007-09-01T10:00:00Z",
       "ietf-subscribed-notifications:subscription-modified": {
         "id": 39,
         "uri": "https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/22"
         "stream-xpath-filter": "/example-module:foo",
         "stream": {
            "ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications" : "NETCONF"
         }
       }
     }
   }

Corrected Text
--------------
A.2.1.  "subscription-modified"

   A "subscription-modified" encoded in JSON would look like:

   {
     "ietf-restconf:notification" : {
       "eventTime": "2007-09-01T10:00:00Z",
       "ietf-subscribed-notifications:subscription-modified": {
         "id": 39,
         "uri": "https://example.com/restconf/subscriptions/39"
         "stream-xpath-filter": "/example-module:foo",
         "stream": {
            "ietf-netconf-subscribed-notifications" : "NETCONF"
         }
       }
     }
   }

Notes
-----
Change the URI to match the ID.

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RFC8650 (draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-notif-15)
--------------------------------------
Title               : Dynamic Subscription to YANG Events and Datastores over RESTCONF
Publication Date    : November 2019
Author(s)           : E. Voit, R. Rahman, E. Nilsen-Nygaard, A. Clemm, A. Bierman
Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
Source              : Network Configuration
Area                : Operations and Management
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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Dear all,

Unfortunately, I let draft-claise-netconf-metadata-for-collection die. 
This was a mistake, now corrected.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-claise-netconf-metadata-for-collection/

Granted, only minor editorial changes at this point in time.

Regards, Benoit


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Hi Kent,

I'm not Yoav, but...

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 12:35:32AM +0000, Kent Watsen wrote:
> Hi Yoav,
> 
> I finally found some time  :sigh:   ;)
> 
> Please see below for responses to your comments.
> 
> Kent
> 
> 
> > On Oct 2, 2020, at 7:20 AM, Kent Watsen <kent@watsen.net> wrote:
> > 
> > [-last-call]
> > 
> > Hi Yoav,
> > 
> > Thank you for your review!  The takeaway for me is that some clarifications are needed, but otherwise the draft is fundamentally okay.  I will post an update, or perhaps just a GitHub commit, for your review, when I get a chance.  That said, my getting a chance will be delayed as I have a major engagement I need to focus on now.  This email is just to let you know that your review has not been forgotten.
> > 
> > Thanks again,
> > Kent
> > 
> > 
> >> On Sep 25, 2020, at 7:02 PM, Yoav Nir via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Reviewer: Yoav Nir
> >> Review result: Has Issues
> >> 
> >> I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing
> >> effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
> >> comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors.
> >> Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other
> >> last call comments.
> >> 
> >> The document defines a YANG model for managing a trust anchor store. It allows
> >> two kinds of trust anchors: certificates and raw public keys. However,
> >> certificates are not just containers for public keys. Certificates include
> >> attributes about key usage, path constraints and name constraints, all of which
> >> constrain the ability to use the public key, and are relevant for trust
> >> anchors. As far as I can tell the document does not include any attributes to
> >> equivalently constrain the use of the raw public keys.  If the intention is
> >> that raw public keys will not be constrained, the document should state this
> >> explicitly.
> 
> Good catch.  You’re right that this document is not constraining the raw keys in the truststore.  Looking deeper, I see that the keys are unconstrained in both the “keystore” draft and the common “crypto-types” draft.  It seems like the right thing to do is to put a Security Consideration note into each draft.  Something like this?
> 
>    4.2.  Unconstrained Public Key Usage
> 
>       This module enables the configuration of public keys without
>       constraints on their usage, e.g., what operations the key is allowed
>       to be used for (encryption, verification, both).
> 
>       This module also enables the configuration of certificates, where
>       each certificate may constrain the usage of the public key according
>       to local policy.
> 
> Thoughts?

This doesn't really fill me with joy.  In short, constraints are going to
have to be applied at *some* level, even if it's not this one, or the
system as a whole is likely to have some very surprising security
properties.  I recognize that coming up with a new language to describe
this sort of constraints is neither fun nor easy (and trying to repurpose
an existing language, such as that used by X.509, is not without issues
either), but I'd hope we could come up with something to say about how to
effectively use constraints on raw public keys.

Thanks,

Ben


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Hi Ben,

> This doesn't really fill me with joy.  In short, constraints are going =
to
> have to be applied at *some* level, even if it's not this one, or the
> system as a whole is likely to have some very surprising security
> properties.  I recognize that coming up with a new language to =
describe
> this sort of constraints is neither fun nor easy (and trying to =
repurpose
> an existing language, such as that used by X.509, is not without =
issues
> either), but I'd hope we could come up with something to say about how =
to
> effectively use constraints on raw public keys.

You say constraints have to be applied at some level, but is this true =
when TLS uses a raw key?  Likewise for SSH keys (e.g., ~/.ssh/id_rsa)?

I=E2=80=99m extremely hesitant to make this change.  Already this work =
(9 drafts in total) has been in progress for more than 5 years.  Will =
you object during the IETF Last Call if it=E2=80=99s not added?

One thing not mentioned before, is that, while the keys are =
unconstrained in the three base drafts (crypto-types, keystore, and =
truststore), the =E2=80=9Ctis-client-server=E2=80=9D and =
=E2=80=9Cssh-client-server=E2=80=9D drafts refine the base YANG models =
to assert that the raw public key must be a SubjectPublicInfo structure =
or an SSH public key, respectively.  In fairness, this only constrains =
the format of the data, not how the keys are used.   That said, this =
approach works with OpenSSH and OpenSSL keys, apparently indicating that =
specifying the raw key=E2=80=99s use isn=E2=80=99t always necessary...


>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Ben


Kent



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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi =
Ben,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">This doesn't =
really fill me with joy. &nbsp;In short, constraints are going to<br =
class=3D"">have to be applied at *some* level, even if it's not this =
one, or the<br class=3D"">system as a whole is likely to have some very =
surprising security<br class=3D"">properties. &nbsp;I recognize that =
coming up with a new language to describe<br class=3D"">this sort of =
constraints is neither fun nor easy (and trying to repurpose<br =
class=3D"">an existing language, such as that used by X.509, is not =
without issues<br class=3D"">either), but I'd hope we could come up with =
something to say about how to<br class=3D"">effectively use constraints =
on raw public keys.<br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>You say constraints have to be applied at some =
level, but is this true when TLS uses a raw key? &nbsp;Likewise for SSH =
keys (e.g.,&nbsp;~/.ssh/id_rsa)?</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>I=E2=80=
=99m extremely hesitant to make this change. &nbsp;Already this work (9 =
drafts in total) has been in progress for more than 5 years. &nbsp;Will =
you object during the IETF Last Call if it=E2=80=99s not =
added?</div><div><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, =
0, 0);" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div><font =
color=3D"#000000" class=3D"">One thing not mentioned before, is that, =
while the keys are unconstrained in the three base drafts (crypto-types, =
keystore, and truststore), the =E2=80=9Ctis-client-server=E2=80=9D and =
=E2=80=9Cssh-client-server=E2=80=9D drafts refine the base YANG models =
to assert that the raw public key must be a SubjectPublicInfo structure =
or an SSH public key, respectively. &nbsp;In fairness, this only =
constrains the format of the data, not how the keys are used. &nbsp; =
That said, this approach works with OpenSSH and OpenSSL keys, apparently =
indicating that specifying the raw key=E2=80=99s use isn=E2=80=99t =
always necessary...</font></div><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class=3D""></div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thanks,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Ben<br =
class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Kent</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></body></html>=

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