Subject: [Netext] 答复: [Mipshop] Independent Context Transfer for PMIP
From: xiajinwei at huawei.com (xiajinwei)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:57:40 +0800

Hi James

Sorry, I am lost on your meaning. Can you elaborate your question or point
out the exact puzzle point?

BR
 
  Jinwei
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> [mailto:netext-bounces at mail.mobileip.jp] On Behalf Of Guo Wei
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 11:15 AM
> To: ryuji at sfc.wide.ad.jp; mipshop at ietf.org; netext at mail.mobileip.jp
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> Subject: [Netext] ??: [Mipshop] Independent Context Transfer for PMIP
> 
> Hi,ryuji
>     My name is James Guo. I just look through your
> draft(draft-wakikawa-pmip-ct-00) and wonder what should you do if some
> access technology can not support the second condition in your assumption?
> 
>    Regards,
> 
> James
> 
> -----????-----
> ???: mipshop-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:mipshop-bounces at ietf.org] ??
> Ryuji Wakikawa
> ????: 2008?11?18? 9:10
> ???: mipshop at ietf.org; netext at mail.mobileip.jp
> ??: Re: [Mipshop] Independent Context Transfer for PMIP
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just submitted the document.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wakikawa-pmip-ct-00.txt
> 
> I couldn't submit the draft from ietf networks. I finally found the
problem.
> The submission page at tools site does not work with IPv6 :-<
> 
> regards,
> ryuji
> 
> 
> 2008/11/17 Ryuji Wakikawa <ryuji.wakikawa at gmail.com>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I knew PFMIP is being standardized as a context transfer mechanism in
> > MIPSHOP.
> > However, I believe it's still good to have an independent CT solution
for
> > PMIP.
> >
> > I wrote a short document and put it on the web (missed submission
deadline
> > somehow...)
> > http://www.mobileip.jp/draft-wakikawa-pmip-ct-00.txt
> >
> > - No new message directly exchanged between MAGs, but always
> >  exchanged via LMA. (i.e. No security association among MAGs.)
> > - Workable across different wireless technology.
> >
> > I'll submit this draft as soon as submission page is re-opened.
> >
> > regards,
> > ryuji
> >
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From: cjbc at it.uc3m.es (Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano)
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:48:29 +0100
Subject: [Netext] Notes from dinner@MPLS
Message-ID: <1226990909.5319.22.camel@localhost>

Hi folks,

	Some notes about what we discussed/agreed tonight.

Disclaimer: I've just written what I think are the highlights of the
discussion, I might missed some or misunderstood others. If that is the
case, I hope other people present in the dinner correct me.

=======================================================================
Date: Monday 2008-11-17
Number of attendees: ~25

Rajeev briefly summarises current status. We didn't have a official BoF
in MPLS because Jari wanted NetLMM to finish some work before bringing
more PMIPv6 related work to the IETF. He asked the group to work in the
PS, to clarify the scope and to keep working on the documents that we
have. It seems that we may have a official BoF in San Francisco.

Rajeev and Raj want to keep working on the PS and the charter and
encourages people to read current charter and provide comments. Next
step is to come up with a PS draft, 4-5 pages max, clearly explaining
the work items we want to work on. We have 3 clear identified items:
multihoming, localised routing (aka Route Optimisation), and
inter-technology handovers. A fourth item could be signalling
optimisations.

Rajeev and Raj ask for volunteers to provide a first text for the PS
draft. The idea is that they are the responsible people to compile/write
that input. Some text could be reused from current solution drafts. It
is important to clearly limit the scope of the work we are willing to
work on. Selected people:

	- Mohana Jeyatharan for the multihoming part.
	- Marco Liebsch for the Localised Routing part.
	- Suresh Krishnan for the inter-technology handovers part.

	The tentative (already extended ;->) deadline for a first version of
this PS draft is mid-December, so we have something before Christmas. As
soon as we are done with this, we might start looking at solutions, so
once the WG is approved we can quickly go over solutions discussions.
=======================================================================

	Cheers,

	Carlos

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From: james.guo at huawei.com (Guo Wei)
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Hi,ryuji
    My name is James Guo. I just look through your
draft(draft-wakikawa-pmip-ct-00) and wonder what should you do if some
access technology can not support the second condition in your assumption?

   Regards,

James

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???: mipshop-bounces at ietf.org [mailto:mipshop-bounces at ietf.org] ??
Ryuji Wakikawa
????: 2008?11?18? 9:10
???: mipshop at ietf.org; netext at mail.mobileip.jp
??: Re: [Mipshop] Independent Context Transfer for PMIP

Hi all,

I just submitted the document.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wakikawa-pmip-ct-00.txt

I couldn't submit the draft from ietf networks. I finally found the problem.
The submission page at tools site does not work with IPv6 :-<

regards,
ryuji

2008/11/17 Ryuji Wakikawa <ryuji.wakikawa at gmail.com>:
> Hi all,
>
> I knew PFMIP is being standardized as a context transfer mechanism in
> MIPSHOP.
> However, I believe it's still good to have an independent CT solution for
> PMIP.
>
> I wrote a short document and put it on the web (missed submission deadline
> somehow...)
> http://www.mobileip.jp/draft-wakikawa-pmip-ct-00.txt
>
> - No new message directly exchanged between MAGs, but always
>  exchanged via LMA. (i.e. No security association among MAGs.)
> - Workable across different wireless technology.
>
> I'll submit this draft as soon as submission page is re-opened.
>
> regards,
> ryuji
>
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From: ryuji.wakikawa at gmail.com (Ryuji Wakikawa)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:09:38 -0600
Subject: [Netext] Independent Context Transfer for PMIP
In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
References: <[email-masked]>
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

Hi all,

I just submitted the document.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wakikawa-pmip-ct-00.txt

I couldn't submit the draft from ietf networks. I finally found the problem.
The submission page at tools site does not work with IPv6 :-<

regards,
ryuji

2008/11/17 Ryuji Wakikawa <ryuji.wakikawa at gmail.com>:
> Hi all,
>
> I knew PFMIP is being standardized as a context transfer mechanism in
> MIPSHOP.
> However, I believe it's still good to have an independent CT solution for
> PMIP.
>
> I wrote a short document and put it on the web (missed submission deadline
> somehow...)
> http://www.mobileip.jp/draft-wakikawa-pmip-ct-00.txt
>
> - No new message directly exchanged between MAGs, but always
>  exchanged via LMA. (i.e. No security association among MAGs.)
> - Workable across different wireless technology.
>
> I'll submit this draft as soon as submission page is re-opened.
>
> regards,
> ryuji
>

From: ryuji.wakikawa at gmail.com (Ryuji Wakikawa)
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:36:50 -0600
Subject: [Netext] Independent Context Transfer for PMIP
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

Hi all,

I knew PFMIP is being standardized as a context transfer mechanism in  
MIPSHOP.
However, I believe it's still good to have an independent CT solution  
for PMIP.

I wrote a short document and put it on the web (missed submission  
deadline somehow...)
http://www.mobileip.jp/draft-wakikawa-pmip-ct-00.txt

- No new message directly exchanged between MAGs, but always
   exchanged via LMA. (i.e. No security association among MAGs.)
- Workable across different wireless technology.

I'll submit this draft as soon as submission page is re-opened.

regards,
ryuji

From: rkoodli at starentnetworks.com (Koodli, Rajeev)
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:07:12 -0500
Subject: [Netext] Meeting during MPLS meeting
In-Reply-To: <[email-masked]>
Message-ID: <[email-masked]>

Hello folks,

Let's meet at 7.30 pm at the IETF registration desk on Monday.

See you then.

-Rajeev

 

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Hello folks,

It would be good to meet for dinner to go over few things. 

Which day works better, Monday/Tuesday?

Regards,

-Rajeev

 

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From: cjbc at it.uc3m.es (Carlos =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Bernardos Cano)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:56:31 +0100
Subject: [Netext] Meeting during MPLS meeting
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Works for me as well,

Carlos

El jue, 13-11-2008 a las 09:22 +0100, MELIA TELEMACO escribi?:
> Hi Rajeev,
>  
> Both days are fine with me.
>  
> Telemaco
> 
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> 
>  
> 
> Hello folks,
> 
>  
> 
> It would be good to meet for dinner to go over few things. 
> 
> Which day works better, Monday/Tuesday?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> -Rajeev
> 
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From: Mohana.Jeyatharan at sg.panasonic.com (Mohana Jeyatharan)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:08:59 +0800
Subject: [Netext] Meeting during MPLS meeting
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Hello Rajeev,
 
Both days are fine with me as well.
 
BR,
Mohana

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	Hello folks,

	It would be good to meet for dinner to go over few things. 

	Which day works better, Monday/Tuesday?

	Regards,

	-Rajeev

	 

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From: Telemaco.Melia at alcatel-lucent.com (MELIA TELEMACO)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:22:24 +0100
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Hi Rajeev,
 
Both days are fine with me.
 
Telemaco

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Hello folks,

It would be good to meet for dinner to go over few things. 

Which day works better, Monday/Tuesday?

Regards,

-Rajeev

 

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From: rkoodli at starentnetworks.com (Koodli, Rajeev)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:39:04 -0500
Subject: [Netext] Meeting during MPLS meeting
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Hello folks,

It would be good to meet for dinner to go over few things. 

Which day works better, Monday/Tuesday?

Regards,

-Rajeev

 

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