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Hi all,

There will be a Distributed/Dynamic Mobility Managment dicussion in
MEXT WG on Thusday. This may be also related to PMIP, welcom to join
the discussion.


Best regards,
Dapeng Liu

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The IETF79 Netext WG meeting slides have been uploaded. Please find them at=
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/79/materials.html

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Hi Melia,
 
Related to " *P6: The Logical interface should transmit uplink packets on
the same physical interface on which the downlink packet was received for
the particular prefix/flow." described in your draft,
 
IMHO, it is understood to me that the MN no decision right to select
appropriate interface and to send packets with different physical interfaces
 
before receiving downlink packets.
 
I wonder we have already consensus about that. Am I wrong?
 
 
Regards,
 
Seil Jeon

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2 face=3D=B1=BC=B8=B2><SPAN =
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packets.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Hello,

P6 now states SHOULD. If the LIF has this property enabled it can use it. I=
f it does not then you can use any other method to configure the LIF. As Sr=
i mentioned during the session the prefix granularity insures that the MN r=
eceives via the RAs the implicit trigger.

Of course we need to discuss all of this on the list. Your feedback is welc=
ome

telemaco

________________________________
De : Seil Jeon [mailto:sijeon79@gmail.com]
Envoy=E9 : mardi 9 novembre 2010 09:11
=C0 : MELIA, TELEMACO (TELEMACO)
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Objet : Related to P6

Hi Melia,

*          Related to " P6: The Logical interface should transmit uplink pa=
ckets on the same physical interface on which the downlink packet was recei=
ved for the particular prefix/flow." described in your draft,

IMHO, it is understood to me that the MN no decision right to select approp=
riate interface and to send packets with different physical interfaces

before receiving downlink packets.

I wonder we have already consensus about that. Am I wrong?


Regards,

Seil Jeon

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'>Hello,<o:p>=
</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier New"><span=
 lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'>P6 now stat=
es
SHOULD. If the LIF has this property enabled it can use it. If it does not =
then
you can use any other method to configure the LIF. As Sri mentioned during =
the
session the prefix granularity insures that the MN receives via the RAs the
implicit trigger.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier New"><span=
 lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier New"><span=
 lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'>Of course w=
e need
to discuss all of this on the list. Your feedback is welcome<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier New"><span=
 lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier New"><span=
 lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'>telemaco<o:=
p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Courier New"><span=
 lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></font></p>

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<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font siz=
e=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>De&nbsp;:</s=
pan></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:Tahoma'>
Seil Jeon [mailto:sijeon79@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Envoy=E9&nbsp;</span></b></span></font>=
<b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;f=
ont-weight:
bold'>:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> mardi 9 novembre 2010 09:11<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>=C0&nbsp;:</span></b> MELIA, TELEMACO
(TELEMACO)<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc&nbsp;:</span></b> netext@ietf.org<br=
>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Objet&nbsp;:</span></b> Related to P6</=
span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DGulim><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Gulim;color:navy'>Hi Melia,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-li=
st:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;
color:navy'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>&#8226;<font size=3D1 face=3D"T=
imes New Roman"><span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy
face=3DGulim><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Gulim;color:navy'>=
Related
to &quot;</span></font><font color=3Dblack face=3DGulim><span style=3D'font=
-family:
Gulim;color:black'> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DGulim=
><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Gulim;color:black'>P6: T=
he
Logical interface should transmit uplink packets on the same physical inter=
face
on which the downlink packet was received for the particular prefix/flow.</=
span></font><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DGulim><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Gulim;
color:navy'>&quot; described in your draft,</span></font><font size=3D2
color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DGulim><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Gulim;color:navy'>IMHO, it is understood to me that</spa=
n></font><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</s=
pan></font><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DGulim><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Gulim;
color:navy'>the MN</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'=
font-size:
10.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DG=
ulim><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Gulim;color:navy'>no decision right t=
o
select appropriate interface and to send packets with different physical
interfaces</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DGulim><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Gulim;color:navy'>before receiving downlink packets.</sp=
an></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DGulim><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Gulim;color:navy'>I wonder we have already consensus abo=
ut
that. Am I wrong?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DGulim><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Gulim;color:navy'>Regards,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DGulim><span style=
=3D'font-size:
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Below is the agenda for this afternoon's session. Meeting material is avail=
able is avalaible at the usual place: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/=
79/materials.html

--julien


THURSDAY, November 11, 2010
1740-1940  Afternoon Session III
Valley Ballroom C  	INT 	mext        	Mobility EXTensions for IPv6 WG=20

- Administrativia, Chairs
  [10 min]

- Problem statement for distributed and dynamic mobility management, Dapeng=
 Liu
     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chan-distributed-mobility-ps
  [20 min]

- Use case scenarios for Distributed Mobility Management, Hidetoshi Yokota
     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yokota-dmm-scenario
  [20 min]

- Distributed and Mobility Management with MIPv6, Julien Laganier
  [10 min]

- Discussion on Distributed Mobility Management
  [60 min]

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Julien, what about Ryuji's slot?





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> Below is the agenda for this afternoon's session. Meeting material is available  
>is avalaible at the usual place: 
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/79/materials.html
> 
> --julien
> 
> 
> THURSDAY,  November 11, 2010
> 1740-1940  Afternoon Session III
> Valley Ballroom  C      INT     mext             Mobility EXTensions for IPv6 
>WG 
>
> 
> -  Administrativia, Chairs
>   [10 min]
> 
> - Problem statement for  distributed and dynamic mobility management, Dapeng 
>Liu
>       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chan-distributed-mobility-ps
>   [20  min]
> 
> - Use case scenarios for Distributed Mobility Management, Hidetoshi  Yokota
>       http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yokota-dmm-scenario
>   [20 min]
> 
> -  Distributed and Mobility Management with MIPv6, Julien Laganier
>   [10  min]
> 
> - Discussion on Distributed Mobility Management
>   [60  min]
> _______________________________________________
> dmm mailing  list
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Hi all

Let me point out that there are similar activity in IETF (aka global =
HAHA).
It's worth to look them before the meeting.=20
You can find several presentations in the past mip6, nemo, mext meetings =
and IDs on ietf page.

regards,
ryuji



On 2010/11/11, at 10:44, Laganier, Julien wrote:

> Below is the agenda for this afternoon's session. Meeting material is =
available is avalaible at the usual place: =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/79/materials.html
>=20
> --julien
>=20
>=20
> THURSDAY, November 11, 2010
> 1740-1940  Afternoon Session III
> Valley Ballroom C  	INT 	mext        	Mobility EXTensions for =
IPv6 WG=20
>=20
> - Administrativia, Chairs
>  [10 min]
>=20
> - Problem statement for distributed and dynamic mobility management, =
Dapeng Liu
>     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chan-distributed-mobility-ps
>  [20 min]
>=20
> - Use case scenarios for Distributed Mobility Management, Hidetoshi =
Yokota
>     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yokota-dmm-scenario
>  [20 min]
>=20
> - Distributed and Mobility Management with MIPv6, Julien Laganier
>  [10 min]
>=20
> - Discussion on Distributed Mobility Management
>  [60 min]
> _______________________________________________
> netext mailing list
> netext@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext


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Also the following:
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-chan-netext-distributed-lma-03.txt

I believe the solution space is quite wide. Many other good approaches can
be proposed. 

It will be a long discussion to understand the pros and cons of each
solution. 

Yet in this meeting, I think the goal is to first understand the need and to
agree to start the study. 

After the work has started, I believe everyone should be welcome to look at
different approaches and present. 

H Anthony Chan

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Hi all

Let me point out that there are similar activity in IETF (aka global HAHA).
It's worth to look them before the meeting. 
You can find several presentations in the past mip6, nemo, mext meetings and
IDs on ietf page.

regards,
ryuji



On 2010/11/11, at 10:44, Laganier, Julien wrote:

> Below is the agenda for this afternoon's session. Meeting material is
available is avalaible at the usual place:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/79/materials.html
> 
> --julien
> 
> 
> THURSDAY, November 11, 2010
> 1740-1940  Afternoon Session III
> Valley Ballroom C  	INT 	mext        	Mobility EXTensions for IPv6
WG 
> 
> - Administrativia, Chairs
>  [10 min]
> 
> - Problem statement for distributed and dynamic mobility management,
Dapeng Liu
>     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chan-distributed-mobility-ps
>  [20 min]
> 
> - Use case scenarios for Distributed Mobility Management, Hidetoshi Yokota
>     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yokota-dmm-scenario
>  [20 min]
> 
> - Distributed and Mobility Management with MIPv6, Julien Laganier
>  [10 min]
> 
> - Discussion on Distributed Mobility Management
>  [60 min]
> _______________________________________________
> netext mailing list
> netext@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext

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This draft is a work item of the Network-Based Mobility Extensions Working Group of the IETF.


	Title           : RADIUS Support for Proxy Mobile IPv6
	Author(s)       : F. Xia, et al.
	Filename        : draft-ietf-netext-radius-pmip6-01.txt
	Pages           : 33
	Date            : 2010-11-15

This document defines new attributes to facilitate Proxy Mobile IPv6
operations using the RADIUS infrastructure.  The RADIUS interactions
between the Mobile Access Gateway and the RADIUS server take place
when the Mobile Node attaches, authenticates and authorizes to a
Proxy Mobile IPv6 domain.  Furthermore, this document defines the
RADIUS-based interface between the Local Mobility Anchor and the
RADIUS server for authorizing received Proxy Binding Update messages
for the MN's mobility session.  In addition to the mobility session
setup related interactions, this document defines the baseline for
the Mobile Access Gateway and the Local Mobility Anchor generated
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Hi Anthony,

I agree that the first thing to do is to agree on the problem statement. =


However, I've started making a list of IDs we sometimes referred during =
discussions. Maybe it can be useful to have a look on them to better =
understand what we are talking about.=20

Problem statement and use-cases scenarios presented during the meeting:=20

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chan-distributed-mobility-ps=20
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yokota-dmm-scenario=20

And just for further reading, few discussions on solutions (please do =
not hesitate to complete the list):

Global HAHA:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-nemo-global-haha-02=20

Separation control plane / data plane with PMIP:

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-chan-netext-distributed-lma-03.txt=20

Dynamic and fully distributed PMIP:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seite-netext-dma-00=20

Considerations on dynamic and distributed mobility management and clues =
for deployment of MIP and PMIP on flat architectures:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-distributed-mobility-02=20

Dynamic MIP:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kassi-mobileip-dmi-01=20

My 2 cents,
Pierrick

> -----Message d'origine-----
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de
> Anthony Chan
> Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 11 novembre 2010 04:26
> =C0=A0: 'Ryuji Wakikawa'; 'Laganier, Julien'
> Cc=A0: netext@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org; mext@ietf.org
> Objet=A0: Re: [MEXT] [netext] Agenda for DMM discussion in MEXT =
session
>=20
> Also the following:
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-chan-netext-distributed-lma-03.txt
>=20
> I believe the solution space is quite wide. Many other good approaches =
can
> be proposed.
>=20
> It will be a long discussion to understand the pros and cons of each
> solution.
>=20
> Yet in this meeting, I think the goal is to first understand the need =
and
> to
> agree to start the study.
>=20
> After the work has started, I believe everyone should be welcome to =
look
> at
> different approaches and present.
>=20
> H Anthony Chan
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
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Behalf
> Of
> Ryuji Wakikawa
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:06 PM
> To: Laganier, Julien
> Cc: netext@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org; mext@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [netext] Agenda for DMM discussion in MEXT session
>=20
> Hi all
>=20
> Let me point out that there are similar activity in IETF (aka global =
HAHA).
> It's worth to look them before the meeting.
> You can find several presentations in the past mip6, nemo, mext =
meetings
> and
> IDs on ietf page.
>=20
> regards,
> ryuji
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 2010/11/11, at 10:44, Laganier, Julien wrote:
>=20
> > Below is the agenda for this afternoon's session. Meeting material =
is
> available is avalaible at the usual place:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/79/materials.html
> >
> > --julien
> >
> >
> > THURSDAY, November 11, 2010
> > 1740-1940  Afternoon Session III
> > Valley Ballroom C  	INT 	mext        	Mobility EXTensions for
> IPv6
> WG
> >
> > - Administrativia, Chairs
> >  [10 min]
> >
> > - Problem statement for distributed and dynamic mobility management,
> Dapeng Liu
> >     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chan-distributed-mobility-ps
> >  [20 min]
> >
> > - Use case scenarios for Distributed Mobility Management, Hidetoshi
> Yokota
> >     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yokota-dmm-scenario
> >  [20 min]
> >
> > - Distributed and Mobility Management with MIPv6, Julien Laganier
> >  [10 min]
> >
> > - Discussion on Distributed Mobility Management
> >  [60 min]
> > _______________________________________________
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Thanks Pierrick, in addition to this somebody sent to the list a couple of =
papers, could not find them though. Would you mind forwarding?

tele

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Hi Anthony,

I agree that the first thing to do is to agree on the problem statement.=20

However, I've started making a list of IDs we sometimes referred during dis=
cussions. Maybe it can be useful to have a look on them to better understan=
d what we are talking about.=20

Problem statement and use-cases scenarios presented during the meeting:=20

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chan-distributed-mobility-ps=20
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yokota-dmm-scenario=20

And just for further reading, few discussions on solutions (please do not h=
esitate to complete the list):

Global HAHA:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-nemo-global-haha-02=20

Separation control plane / data plane with PMIP:

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-chan-netext-distributed-lma-03.txt=20

Dynamic and fully distributed PMIP:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seite-netext-dma-00=20

Considerations on dynamic and distributed mobility management and clues for=
 deployment of MIP and PMIP on flat architectures:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-distributed-mobility-02=20

Dynamic MIP:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kassi-mobileip-dmi-01=20

My 2 cents,
Pierrick

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De=A0: mext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mext-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de
> Anthony Chan
> Envoy=E9=A0: jeudi 11 novembre 2010 04:26
> =C0=A0: 'Ryuji Wakikawa'; 'Laganier, Julien'
> Cc=A0: netext@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org; mext@ietf.org
> Objet=A0: Re: [MEXT] [netext] Agenda for DMM discussion in MEXT session
>=20
> Also the following:
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-chan-netext-distributed-lma-03.txt
>=20
> I believe the solution space is quite wide. Many other good approaches ca=
n
> be proposed.
>=20
> It will be a long discussion to understand the pros and cons of each
> solution.
>=20
> Yet in this meeting, I think the goal is to first understand the need and
> to
> agree to start the study.
>=20
> After the work has started, I believe everyone should be welcome to look
> at
> different approaches and present.
>=20
> H Anthony Chan
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: netext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:netext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Ryuji Wakikawa
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:06 PM
> To: Laganier, Julien
> Cc: netext@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org; mext@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [netext] Agenda for DMM discussion in MEXT session
>=20
> Hi all
>=20
> Let me point out that there are similar activity in IETF (aka global HAHA=
).
> It's worth to look them before the meeting.
> You can find several presentations in the past mip6, nemo, mext meetings
> and
> IDs on ietf page.
>=20
> regards,
> ryuji
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 2010/11/11, at 10:44, Laganier, Julien wrote:
>=20
> > Below is the agenda for this afternoon's session. Meeting material is
> available is avalaible at the usual place:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/79/materials.html
> >
> > --julien
> >
> >
> > THURSDAY, November 11, 2010
> > 1740-1940  Afternoon Session III
> > Valley Ballroom C  	INT 	mext        	Mobility EXTensions for
> IPv6
> WG
> >
> > - Administrativia, Chairs
> >  [10 min]
> >
> > - Problem statement for distributed and dynamic mobility management,
> Dapeng Liu
> >     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chan-distributed-mobility-ps
> >  [20 min]
> >
> > - Use case scenarios for Distributed Mobility Management, Hidetoshi
> Yokota
> >     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yokota-dmm-scenario
> >  [20 min]
> >
> > - Distributed and Mobility Management with MIPv6, Julien Laganier
> >  [10 min]
> >
> > - Discussion on Distributed Mobility Management
> >  [60 min]
> > _______________________________________________
> > netext mailing list
> > netext@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netext
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From: liu dapeng <maxpassion@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [netext] [dmm] [MEXT] Agenda for DMM discussion in MEXT session
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Hi Tele,

Are you refering to the following paper:
------
Title: Evaluation and Comparison of Signaling Protocol Alternatives
for the Ultra Flat Architecture
http://www.mcl.hu/~goodzi/Evaluation_and_Comparison_of_Signaling_Protocol_A=
lternatives_for_the_Ultra_Flat_Architecture_ICSNC2010.pdf

Title: A Delegation-based HIP Signaling Scheme for the Ultra Flat Architect=
ure
http://www.mcl.hu/~goodzi/A_Delegation-based_HIP_Signaling_Scheme_for_the_U=
ltra_Flat_Architecture_IWSCN2010.pdf
----

Best  regards,
Dapeng Liu

2010/11/29, MELIA, TELEMACO (TELEMACO) <telemaco.melia@alcatel-lucent.com>:
> Thanks Pierrick, in addition to this somebody sent to the list a couple o=
f
> papers, could not find them though. Would you mind forwarding?
>
> tele
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : dmm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dmm-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de
> pierrick.seite@orange-ftgroup.com
> Envoy=E9 : mardi 23 novembre 2010 11:00
> =C0 : anthonychan@huawei.com; ryuji.wakikawa@gmail.com; julienl@qualcomm.=
com
> Cc : netext@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org; mext@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [dmm] [MEXT] [netext] Agenda for DMM discussion in MEXT sessi=
on
>
>
> Hi Anthony,
>
> I agree that the first thing to do is to agree on the problem statement.
>
> However, I've started making a list of IDs we sometimes referred during
> discussions. Maybe it can be useful to have a look on them to better
> understand what we are talking about.
>
> Problem statement and use-cases scenarios presented during the meeting:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chan-distributed-mobility-ps
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yokota-dmm-scenario
>
> And just for further reading, few discussions on solutions (please do not
> hesitate to complete the list):
>
> Global HAHA:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-nemo-global-haha-02
>
> Separation control plane / data plane with PMIP:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-chan-netext-distributed-lma-03.txt
>
> Dynamic and fully distributed PMIP:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-seite-netext-dma-00
>
> Considerations on dynamic and distributed mobility management and clues f=
or
> deployment of MIP and PMIP on flat architectures:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-distributed-mobility-02
>
> Dynamic MIP:
>
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kassi-mobileip-dmi-01
>
> My 2 cents,
> Pierrick
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : mext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mext-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de
>> Anthony Chan
>> Envoy=E9 : jeudi 11 novembre 2010 04:26
>> =C0 : 'Ryuji Wakikawa'; 'Laganier, Julien'
>> Cc : netext@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org; mext@ietf.org
>> Objet : Re: [MEXT] [netext] Agenda for DMM discussion in MEXT session
>>
>> Also the following:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-chan-netext-distributed-lma-03.txt
>>
>> I believe the solution space is quite wide. Many other good approaches c=
an
>> be proposed.
>>
>> It will be a long discussion to understand the pros and cons of each
>> solution.
>>
>> Yet in this meeting, I think the goal is to first understand the need an=
d
>> to
>> agree to start the study.
>>
>> After the work has started, I believe everyone should be welcome to look
>> at
>> different approaches and present.
>>
>> H Anthony Chan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: netext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:netext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Ryuji Wakikawa
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:06 PM
>> To: Laganier, Julien
>> Cc: netext@ietf.org; dmm@ietf.org; mext@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [netext] Agenda for DMM discussion in MEXT session
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Let me point out that there are similar activity in IETF (aka global
>> HAHA).
>> It's worth to look them before the meeting.
>> You can find several presentations in the past mip6, nemo, mext meetings
>> and
>> IDs on ietf page.
>>
>> regards,
>> ryuji
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2010/11/11, at 10:44, Laganier, Julien wrote:
>>
>> > Below is the agenda for this afternoon's session. Meeting material is
>> available is avalaible at the usual place:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/79/materials.html
>> >
>> > --julien
>> >
>> >
>> > THURSDAY, November 11, 2010
>> > 1740-1940  Afternoon Session III
>> > Valley Ballroom C  	INT 	mext        	Mobility EXTensions for
>> IPv6
>> WG
>> >
>> > - Administrativia, Chairs
>> >  [10 min]
>> >
>> > - Problem statement for distributed and dynamic mobility management,
>> Dapeng Liu
>> >     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chan-distributed-mobility-ps
>> >  [20 min]
>> >
>> > - Use case scenarios for Distributed Mobility Management, Hidetoshi
>> Yokota
>> >     http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yokota-dmm-scenario
>> >  [20 min]
>> >
>> > - Distributed and Mobility Management with MIPv6, Julien Laganier
>> >  [10 min]
>> >
>> > - Discussion on Distributed Mobility Management
>> >  [60 min]
>> > _______________________________________________
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