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Hi All,

 We submitted a draft that looks at interconnections between network slices=
 subnets (in a technology independent information model).

 It is not part of the core drafts that were submitted for the COMS BoF pro=
posal, but it builds upon a technology independent information model of a n=
etwork slice, and hopefully can contribute to the general discussion.

 The draft is at a very early stage, reviews and comments are welcome.


A new version of I-D, draft-defoy-coms-subnet-interconnection-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Xavier de Foy and posted to the IETF rep=
ository.

Name:           draft-defoy-coms-subnet-interconnection
Revision:       00
Title:          Interconnecting Network Slice Subnets
Document date:  2017-10-03
Group:          Individual Submission
Pages:          7
URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-defoy-coms-subne=
t-interconnection-00.txt
Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-defoy-coms-subnet-in=
terconnection/
Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-defoy-coms-subnet-interco=
nnection-00
Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-defoy-coms-subn=
et-interconnection-00


Abstract:
  This document aims to define a network slice subnet as a general
  concept, and to augment a baseline network slice model with
  attributes that describe interconnections between network slice
  subnets.


 Best Regards,

Xavier.


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Dear all,

Let's start from the beginning.
I see the Network Slice Instance (btw, no Network Slice definition) in 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement/

    Network Slice Instance - A network slice instance (NSI) is a managed
    group of subsets of network resources, network functions and network
    management entities, forming a complete instantiated logical/physical
    network to meet certain network characteristics required by the
    network slice tenant(s).  A network slice instance may also be shared
    across multiple services provided by the network slice tenant.  It is
    re-configurable and is managed by network slice provider.

Do we all have the same understanding?

Regards, Benoit


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Dear all,

Same questions on my side.
I see on one side a proposal for a WG-Forming BoF, but no proposed 
charter text and no deliverables.

Regards, Benoit.
>
> Sheng,
>
> Is there a draft WG Charter yet? Would be good to have one a while 
> before the IETF. From the description below, it sounds like the (only) 
> work item will be a common information model, is that right?
>
> Thanks
>
> phil
>
> *From:*Netslices [mailto:netslices-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Sheng Jiang
> *Sent:* 27 September 2017 15:36
> *To:* NetSlices@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [Netslices] COMS BoF proposal for IETF100 is uploaded
>
> Dear all netslices,
>
> The stable version of COMS BoF proposal, as below, has been uploaded 
> onto the IETF BoF WiKi page. Two associated documents are linked. No 
> further modification would be made unless the responsible ADs 
> explicitly ask or made by themselves directly.
>
> A demonstration is also in preparation for the coming IETF100 meeting, 
> Singapore. An implementation of the common netslice template and 
> mapping it into two existing technologies would be showed.
>
> https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/
>
> Many thanks and best regards,
>
> Sheng
>
> *Common Operation and Management on network Slicing (COMS)*
>
> Description:
>
> The dynamic provisioning of customized networking facilities 
> (forwarding and routing, QoS, security, compute, storage capabilities 
> among others) over physical infrastructures can rely upon the 
> so-called network slicing technique. Network slicing is a technique to 
> construct and manage a network slice, which is a collection of network 
> resources and network functions. Customers of such networking 
> facilities would like their service provider to construct network 
> slices accordingly, regardless of the underlay technologies, while 
> network operators have multiple candidate technologies for supporting 
> the network slicing. Between the technology-agnostic service 
> requirements and specific implementation technology, a common 
> information model is missed. This information model could be mapped to 
> any available implementation technology, and supports the operation 
> and management on network slices.
>
> Status: WG-Forming BoF
> Responsible AD: Benoit Claise
> BoF Chairs: TBD
> Number of people expected to attend: 150
> Length of session: 1.5 hours
> Conflicts to avoid (whole Areas and/or WGs): teas, anima, detnet, sfc, 
> nvo3, opsarea
>
> Mailing List: ​https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netslices
>
> Relevant drafts:
>
>   * ​Problem Statement of Supervised Heterogeneous Network Slicing
>     <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement/>
>   * ​Technology Independent Information Model for Network Slicing
>     <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-information-model/>
>
>   * YANG Model of the Northbound Interface for Management and
>     Operation on Information Model [TBD]
>
> Agenda (draft)
>
>   * Admin - 5 mins
>   * Technical Requirement for a common Information Model of slice from
>     Operators - 25 mins
>   * A design for a common Information Model - 20 mins
>   * Mapping the common Information Model to multiple technologies - 15
>     mins
>   * Charter and Deliverables Discussions Q&A - 25 mins
>
>
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear all,<br>
      <br>
      Same questions on my side.<br>
      I see on one side a proposal for a WG-Forming BoF, but no proposed
      charter text and no deliverables.<br>
      <br>
      Regards, Benoit.<br>
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          <span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Sheng,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Is
            there a draft WG Charter yet? Would be good to have one a
            while before the IETF. From the description below, it sounds
            like the (only) work item will be a common information
            model, is that right?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <span
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left" align="left"><b><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> Netslices
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:netslices-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:netslices-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sheng Jiang<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 27 September 2017 15:36<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NetSlices@ietf.org">NetSlices@ietf.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [Netslices] COMS BoF proposal for
                IETF100 is uploaded<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left" align="left"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US">Dear all netslices,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US">The stable version of COMS BoF proposal, as
            below, has been uploaded onto the IETF BoF WiKi page. Two
            associated documents are linked. No further modification
            would be made unless the responsible ADs explicitly ask or
            made by themselves directly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US">A demonstration is also in preparation for the
            coming IETF100 meeting, Singapore. An implementation of the
            common netslice template and mapping it into two existing
            technologies would be showed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US"><a href="https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/"
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US">Many thanks and best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US">Sheng<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="background:white"><strong><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:SimSun;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
              lang="EN-US">Common Operation and Management on network
              Slicing (COMS)</span></strong><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;,serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="background:white;font-variant-ligatures:
          normal;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans:
          2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width:
          0px;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color:
          initial;word-spacing:0px">
          <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;,serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US">Description:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="background:white;font-variant-ligatures:
          normal;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans:
          2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width:
          0px;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color:
          initial;word-spacing:0px">
          <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;,serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US">The dynamic provisioning of customized
            networking facilities (forwarding and routing, QoS,
            security, compute, storage capabilities among others) over
            physical infrastructures can rely upon the so-called network
            slicing technique. Network slicing is a technique to
            construct and manage a network slice, which is a collection
            of network resources and network functions. Customers of
            such networking facilities would like their service provider
            to construct network slices accordingly, regardless of the
            underlay technologies, while network operators have multiple
            candidate technologies for supporting the network slicing.
            Between the technology-agnostic service requirements and
            specific implementation technology, a common information
            model is missed. This information model could be mapped to
            any available implementation technology, and supports the
            operation and management on network slices.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="background:white;font-variant-ligatures:
          normal;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans:
          2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width:
          0px;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color:
          initial;word-spacing:0px">
          <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;,serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US">Status: WG-Forming BoF <br>
            Responsible AD: Benoit Claise <br>
            BoF Chairs: TBD <br>
            Number of people expected to attend: 150 <br>
            Length of session: 1.5 hours <br>
            Conflicts to avoid (whole Areas and/or WGs): teas, anima,
            detnet, sfc, nvo3, opsarea <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="background:white;font-variant-ligatures:
          normal;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans:
          2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width:
          0px;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color:
          initial;word-spacing:0px">
          <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;,serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US">Mailing List: <a
              href="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netslices"
              moz-do-not-send="true"><span class="icon"><span
                  style="color:#440088">​</span></span><span
                style="color:#440088">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netslices</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p style="background:white;font-variant-ligatures:
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          2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width:
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          initial;word-spacing:0px">
          <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;,serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US">Relevant drafts: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <ul type="disc">
          <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:left;mso-list:l3
            level1 lfo3;background:white">
            <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN" lang="EN-US"><a
href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement/"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><span class="icon"><span
                    style="color:#440088">​</span></span><span
                  style="color:#440088">Problem Statement of Supervised
                  Heterogeneous Network Slicing</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:left;mso-list:l3
            level1 lfo3;background:white">
            <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN" lang="EN-US"><a
href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-information-model/"
                moz-do-not-send="true"><span class="icon"><span
                    style="color:#440088">​</span></span><span
                  style="color:#440088">Technology Independent
                  Information Model for Network Slicing</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:left;mso-list:l3
            level1 lfo3;background:white">
            <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN" lang="EN-US">YANG
              Model of the Northbound Interface for Management and
              Operation on Information Model [TBD] <o:p></o:p></span></li>
        </ul>
        <p style="background:white;font-variant-ligatures:
          normal;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans:
          2;text-align:start;widows: 2;-webkit-text-stroke-width:
          0px;text-decoration-style: initial;text-decoration-color:
          initial;word-spacing:0px">
          <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
            Roman&quot;,serif;color:black;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US">Agenda (draft)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <ul type="disc">
          <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:left;mso-list:l0
            level1 lfo6;background:white">
            <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN" lang="EN-US">Admin
              - 5 mins <o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:left;mso-list:l0
            level1 lfo6;background:white">
            <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN" lang="EN-US">Technical
              Requirement for a common Information Model of slice from
              Operators - 25 mins <o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:left;mso-list:l0
            level1 lfo6;background:white">
            <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN" lang="EN-US">A
              design for a common Information Model - 20 mins <o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:left;mso-list:l0
            level1 lfo6;background:white">
            <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN" lang="EN-US">Mapping
              the common Information Model to multiple technologies - 15
              mins <o:p></o:p></span></li>
          <li class="MsoNormal"
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:left;mso-list:l0
            level1 lfo6;background:white">
            <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
              Roman&quot;,serif;mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN" lang="EN-US">Charter
              and Deliverables Discussions Q&amp;A - 25 mins <o:p></o:p></span></li>
        </ul>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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Dear BoF proponents,

 From the BoF proposal at https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/,  I see:

    Relevant drafts:

      * ​Problem Statement of Supervised Heterogeneous Network Slicing
        <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement/>

      * ​Technology Independent Information Model for Network Slicing
        <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-information-model/>

      * YANG Model of the Northbound Interface for Management and
        Operation on Information Model [TBD]

Does it mean that the netslices documents are not relevant any longer?
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?name=netslice&sort=&rfcs=on&activedrafts=on

Please provide some guidance.

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    Dear BoF proponents,<br>
    <br>
    From the BoF proposal at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/">https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/</a>,  I
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        Relevant drafts: <br>
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      <ul>
        <li><a class="ext-link"
href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement/"><span
              class="icon">​</span>Problem Statement of Supervised
            Heterogeneous Network Slicing</a> <br>
        </li>
        <li><a class="ext-link"
href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-information-model/"><span
              class="icon">​</span>Technology Independent Information
            Model for Network Slicing</a> <br>
        </li>
        <li>YANG Model of the Northbound Interface for Management and
          Operation on Information Model [TBD] </li>
      </ul>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Does it mean that the netslices documents are not relevant any
      longer?<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?name=netslice&amp;sort=&amp;rfcs=on&amp;activedrafts=on">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?name=netslice&amp;sort=&amp;rfcs=on&amp;activedrafts=on</a></p>
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Dear Benoit,

I'm a little confused on how we distinguish between the network slice insta=
nce and the network slice tenant.

The problem statement seems focused on describing the network slice instanc=
e, but it also talks about providing compute and storage for the network sl=
ice instance.   In my mind, these attributes are something required by the =
network slice tenant rather than the network slice instance.

I'm pretty new to the mailing list, so I may be missing some history.   Cou=
ld anyone elaborate on this topic?

Thanks

Bill


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ise
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Subject: [Netslices] Network slice common definition?

Dear all,

Let's start from the beginning.
I see the Network Slice Instance (btw, no Network Slice definition) in http=
s://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement/

    Network Slice Instance - A network slice instance (NSI) is a managed
    group of subsets of network resources, network functions and network
    management entities, forming a complete instantiated logical/physical
    network to meet certain network characteristics required by the
    network slice tenant(s).  A network slice instance may also be shared
    across multiple services provided by the network slice tenant.  It is
    re-configurable and is managed by network slice provider.

Do we all have the same understanding?

Regards, Benoit

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Dear all,

[Trying to focus on one subject per email thread]
I see that the intent is a WG forming BoF 
(https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki)

Can you clearly describe what the deliverables are. I understand that 
you guys want an information model.
Christina Qiang mentioned: "I think you may want to have a look at RFC 
3444 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc3444/. What we are doing is 
information model not service model and data model."

Let me try to understand, copying the figure 1 in 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-information-model/

          Service Model
     Tenant<---------->Network Slicing Service Provider
                                  ^
                                  |
                                  |
                                  |Management/Operations
            +---------------------v-----------------------+
            | Technology Independent NS Information Model |
            +---------------------^-----------------------+
                                  |Mapping to Specific Technology
                                  |
                                  |
           +----------+-----------+------------+
           |          |           |            |
           |          |           |            | NS-Oriented Extension in
           |          |           |            | Each Specific Technology
           |          |           |            |
       +---v--+    +--v---+    +--v---+    +---v--+       Available
       | ACTN |    |DetNet|    | VPN  |    |  SR  |   ... Implementation
       +------+    +------+    +------+    +------+       Technologies

            Figure 1: Technology Independent NS Information Model



Daniele Ceccarilli asked a question: are you targeting a customer 
service model, a service delivery model, network configuration model?
What I'm missing is how this figure 1 relates to figure 3 in 
draft-ietf-opsawg-service-model-explained? (as Qin Wu asked)

                                                  Customer
                             ------------------   Service  ----------
                            |                  |  Model   |          |
                            |     Service      |<-------->| Customer |
                            |   Orchestrator   |    (a)   |          |
                            |                  |           ----------
                             ------------------
                                .          .
                               .            .        (b)   -----------
                              . (b)          .      ......|Application|
                             .                .     :     |  BSS/OSS  |
                            .                  .    :      -----------
                           .  Service Delivery  .   :
                           .       Model        .   :
                  ------------------    ------------------
                 |                  |  |                  |
                 |     Network      |  |     Network      |
                 |   Orchestrator   |  |   Orchestrator   |
                 |                  |  |                  |
                 .------------------    ------------------.
                .         :                       :        .
               .          : Network Configuration :         .
               .          :        Model          :         .
       ------------     ------------     ------------    ------------
      |            |   |            |   |            |  |            |
      | Controller |   | Controller |   | Controller |  | Controller |
      |            |   |            |   |            |  |            |
       ------------     ------------     ------------    ------------
          :              .       .                 :            :
          :             .         .      Device    :            :
          :            .           . Configuration :            :
          :            .           .     Model     :            :
      ---------     ---------   ---------     ---------      ---------
     | Network |   | Network | | Network |   | Network |    | Network |
     | Element |   | Element | | Element |   | Element |    | Element |
      ---------     ---------   ---------     ---------      ---------

      Figure 3: An Example SDN Architecture with a Service Orchestrator


I guess what I'm missing in the figure 1 is the set of building blocks.
I do understand the two new dimensions you want to add this picture, 
next to networking: compute and storage. It might be worth extending 
this figure btw.

I'm asking all these questions because, in the end, I want to 
understand: what do you want to accomplish with an information model
Simply the mapping of high level properties to existing technologies? 
And since at the IETF, mapping to networking technologies?
As an example: do we have the right technology in SR, ACTN, DetNet, 
you-name-it, for what you expect from a slide in terms of max bandwidth, 
min bandwdith, max packet loss, etc...
Is it the intended goal behind the proposed WG? To do the gap analysis 
for the different IETF networking technologies?
It would be good to provide clarifications.

Btw, looking at your information model 
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-information-model-00#section-3>, 
it sure looks like the output of a well data model tool :-)
So do also plan to deliver a data model?

Regards, Benoit






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    Dear all,<br>
    <br>
    [Trying to focus on one subject per email thread]<br>
    I see that the intent is a WG forming BoF (<a
      class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
      href="https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki">https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki</a>)<br>
    <br>
    Can you clearly describe what the deliverables are. I understand
    that you guys want an information model.<br>
    Christina Qiang mentioned: <span
      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New
      Roman&quot;,serif;color:black" lang="EN-US"><span
        style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">"I think you may want to have
        a look at RFC 3444 <a
          href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc3444/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc3444/</a>.
        What we are doing is information model not service model and
        data model."<br>
        <br>
      </span></span>Let me try to understand, copying the figure 1 in
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-information-model/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-information-model/</a><br>
    <br>
    <pre>         Service Model
    Tenant&lt;----------&gt;Network Slicing Service Provider
                                 ^
                                 |
                                 |
                                 |Management/Operations
           +---------------------v-----------------------+
           | Technology Independent NS Information Model |
           +---------------------^-----------------------+
                                 |Mapping to Specific Technology
                                 |
                                 |
          +----------+-----------+------------+
          |          |           |            |
          |          |           |            | NS-Oriented Extension in
          |          |           |            | Each Specific Technology
          |          |           |            |
      +---v--+    +--v---+    +--v---+    +---v--+       Available
      | ACTN |    |DetNet|    | VPN  |    |  SR  |   ... Implementation
      +------+    +------+    +------+    +------+       Technologies

           Figure 1: Technology Independent NS Information Model</pre>
    <br>
    <br>
    Daniele Ceccarilli asked a question: are you targeting a customer
    service model, a service delivery model, network configuration
    model?<br>
    What I'm missing is how this figure 1 relates to figure 3 in
    draft-ietf-opsawg-service-model-explained? (as Qin Wu asked)<br>
    <pre>                                                 Customer
                            ------------------   Service  ----------
                           |                  |  Model   |          |
                           |     Service      |&lt;--------&gt;| Customer |
                           |   Orchestrator   |    (a)   |          |
                           |                  |           ----------
                            ------------------
                               .          .
                              .            .        (b)   -----------
                             . (b)          .      ......|Application|
                            .                .     :     |  BSS/OSS  |
                           .                  .    :      -----------
                          .  Service Delivery  .   :
                          .       Model        .   :
                 ------------------    ------------------
                |                  |  |                  |
                |     Network      |  |     Network      |
                |   Orchestrator   |  |   Orchestrator   |
                |                  |  |                  |
                .------------------    ------------------.
               .         :                       :        .
              .          : Network Configuration :         .
              .          :        Model          :         .
      ------------     ------------     ------------    ------------
     |            |   |            |   |            |  |            |
     | Controller |   | Controller |   | Controller |  | Controller |
     |            |   |            |   |            |  |            |
      ------------     ------------     ------------    ------------
         :              .       .                 :            :
         :             .         .      Device    :            :
         :            .           . Configuration :            :
         :            .           .     Model     :            :
     ---------     ---------   ---------     ---------      ---------
    | Network |   | Network | | Network |   | Network |    | Network |
    | Element |   | Element | | Element |   | Element |    | Element |
     ---------     ---------   ---------     ---------      ---------

     Figure 3: An Example SDN Architecture with a Service Orchestrator</pre>
    <br>
    I guess what I'm missing in the figure 1 is the set of building
    blocks.<br>
    I do understand the two new dimensions you want to add this picture,
    next to networking: compute and storage. It might be worth extending
    this figure btw.<br>
    <br>
    I'm asking all these questions because, in the end, I want to
    understand: what do you want to accomplish with an information model<br>
    Simply the mapping of high level properties to existing
    technologies? And since at the IETF, mapping to networking
    technologies?<br>
    As an example: do we have the right technology in SR, ACTN, DetNet,
    you-name-it, for what you expect from a slide in terms of max
    bandwidth, min bandwdith, max packet loss, etc...<br>
    Is it the intended goal behind the proposed WG? To do the gap
    analysis for the different IETF networking technologies?<br>
    It would be good to provide clarifications. <br>
    <br>
    Btw, looking at your <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-information-model-00#section-3">information
      model</a>, it sure looks like the output of a well data model tool
    :-)<br>
    So do also plan to deliver a data model?<br>
    <br>
    Regards, Benoit<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
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How does the COMS objectives relate to an opensource project such as 
openstack, which deals with compute, storage, networking?
Typically openstack orchestration Heat 
<https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat>?

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    Typically openstack orchestration <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Dear all,

The IESG and IAB had the BoF coordination call yesterday and the 
consensus was to not grant a BoF for this coming IETF100.

There is obviously some industry interest in the network slicing 
management, for a definition of network slicing. Based on the feedback 
provided during the first BoF and directly to the BoF proponents, we 
believe that some more preparation is required and that allocation BoF 
time at this point in time would not result in a successful BoF. The 2 
COMS drafts are very light and would benefit from more discussion on the 
mailing list.

This outcome doesn't mean that you should stop working on the topic, 
rather it is encouragement to continue the work and to engage more 
people in the process. Assuming that you have a more complete set of 
document, OPSAWG/OPSAREA time could potentially be granted.

Regards, Benoit


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Dear all,

Please find here below the link of a workshop that I co-organize and that I=
 think is of interest for our community:

http://wcnc2018.ieee-wcnc.org/workshop/control-and-management-network-slice=
s-verticals-comvert

The workshop is organized in the framework of the IEEE WCNC 2018 conference=
 in Barcelona (Spain) next April.

I encourage you to submit papers to it. The deadline for submission is Nove=
mber 2nd.

Thanks,

Best regards

Luis

__________________________________
Luis M. Contreras

Technology and Planning
Transport, IP and Interconnection Networks
Telef=F3nica I+D / Global CTO unit / Telef=F3nica

Distrito Telef=F3nica, Edificio Sur 3, Planta 3
28050 Madrid
Espa=F1a / Spain

Skype (Lync): +34 91 312 9084
Mobile: +34 680 947 650
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The workshop is organized in the framework of the IE=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Luis<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">__________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"ES">Distrito Telef=F3nica, Edificio Su=
r 3, Planta 3<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"ES">28050 Madrid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Dear Bill,

The statement "providing compute and storage for the network slice instance=
" is a little inappropriate. Your understanding is correct, at first networ=
k slice tenant requires for compute and storage, then the network slice ins=
tance will be constructed as the network slice tenant required (containing =
the compute and storage resources in the constructed network slice instance=
).

Best regards,
Cristina QIANG

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mick
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 11:12 PM
To: Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>; NetSlices@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Netslices] Network slice common definition?

Dear Benoit,

I'm a little confused on how we distinguish between the network slice insta=
nce and the network slice tenant.

The problem statement seems focused on describing the network slice instanc=
e, but it also talks about providing compute and storage for the network sl=
ice instance.   In my mind, these attributes are something required by the =
network slice tenant rather than the network slice instance.

I'm pretty new to the mailing list, so I may be missing some history.   Cou=
ld anyone elaborate on this topic?

Thanks

Bill


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Subject: [Netslices] Network slice common definition?

Dear all,

Let's start from the beginning.
I see the Network Slice Instance (btw, no Network Slice definition) in http=
s://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement/

    Network Slice Instance - A network slice instance (NSI) is a managed
    group of subsets of network resources, network functions and network
    management entities, forming a complete instantiated logical/physical
    network to meet certain network characteristics required by the
    network slice tenant(s).  A network slice instance may also be shared
    across multiple services provided by the network slice tenant.  It is
    re-configurable and is managed by network slice provider.

Do we all have the same understanding?

Regards, Benoit

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Hi Benoit,</div>
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The orchestrator in a MANO system or the Openstack Heat may act as one of t=
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Unlike&nbsp; many of the TE domain controllers (Detnet controller, ACTN MD)=
 which focuses on the connectivity resources, these NFV orchestators deal w=
ith the computing and storage resources (and the networking&nbsp;within the=
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For example, a gaming company may ask for a network slice with A-C/B-C netw=
ork topology and certain computing/storage power in C, where A and B are so=
me subscriber hotpot&nbsp;with dedicated connection&nbsp;to C, and C is a n=
etwork-slice-provider-owned datacenter. It
 request for certain VMs running in C datacenter for its own edge computing=
 applications (i.e. AR/VR processing) and gaming acceleration purposes (i.e=
. an VPN client connecting to its main gaming server). Systems such as ETSI=
 NFVO or Openstack Heat may be used
 to create such VMs as part of the orchestrated resources in this network s=
lice.</div>
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Best wishes</div>
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Liang</div>
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<b>=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4:</b> 2017=C4=EA10=D4=C25=C8=D5 11:01<br>
<b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB:</b> NetSlices@ietf.org<br>
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<div>Dear all,<br>
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How does the COMS objectives relate to an opensource project such as openst=
ack, which deals with compute, storage, networking?<br>
Typically openstack orchestration <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"https=
://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat">
Heat</a>? <br>
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Regards, Benoit<br>
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<p>Hi, Benoit,</p>
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<p>The Network Slice Instance, I believe,&nbsp;is actually&nbsp;defining th=
e Network Slice you are referring to&nbsp;- we can certainly and are happy =
omit the word &quot;instance&quot; if it&nbsp;makes&nbsp;things vague.</p>
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<p>Since this&nbsp;NSI definition is being discussed recently in many occas=
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n of&nbsp;definition after those discussions&nbsp;for a more broader group&=
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<p>&quot;Network Slice (NS) - A managed subset of&nbsp;network resources&nb=
sp;including connectivity, computing,&nbsp;storage,&nbsp;network functions =
etc. These resources are orchestrated to create a network slice by the netw=
ork slice provider&nbsp;according to&nbsp;network slice tenant's requiremen=
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<p>Best wishes</p>
<p>Liang</p>
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<b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB:</b> NetSlices@ietf.org<br>
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<div class=3D"PlainText">Dear all,<br>
<br>
Let's start from the beginning.<br>
I see the Network Slice Instance (btw, no Network Slice definition) in <br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-stateme=
nt/" id=3D"LPlnk276809" previewremoved=3D"true">https://datatracker.ietf.or=
g/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement/</a><br>
<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Network Slice Instance - A network slice instance (NSI) =
is a managed<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; group of subsets of network resources, network functions=
 and network<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; management entities, forming a complete instantiated log=
ical/physical<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; network to meet certain network characteristics required=
 by the<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; network slice tenant(s).&nbsp; A network slice instance =
may also be shared<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; across multiple services provided by the network slice t=
enant.&nbsp; It is<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; re-configurable and is managed by network slice provider=
.<br>
<br>
Do we all have the same understanding?<br>
<br>
Regards, Benoit<br>
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Hi Lei,


Thanks for your email.


In principle , the intra-slice management entity may include any pre-define=
d network management functions per network slice tenant's requests. The for=
ms (i.e. whether it is a single or a set of function blocks ) of this entit=
y are implementation specific.


However, I think it might be a good idea to elaborate more on what manageme=
nt functions are needed within this entity (i.e. specific OAM functions). a=
nd this could also serve as a reference for the information model solution =
draft. Do you have any suggestions on this?


Best wishes

Liang


________________________________
From: Lei Wang <leiw0920@outlook.com>
Sent: 28 September 2017 17:12:48
To: liang.geng@hotmail.com; netslices@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Netslices] I-D draft-geng-coms-problem-statement


Hi Liang,

Thank you for your work.

I just reviewed the most recent draft you submitted, and I agree with the N=
S Intra Management you added. So in Intra management part, should we place =
some functions blocks into it?

Kind Regards

Lei Wang




=1B$B:_=1B(B 2017-09-25 11:15, GENG Liang <liang.geng@hotmail.com> =1B$B<LF=
;=1B(B:
Dear All,

We have submitted a problem statement draft for supervised heterogeneous ne=
twork slicing. Comments are extremely welcome


A new version of I-D, draft-geng-coms-problem-statement-00.txt

has been successfully submitted by Liang Geng and posted to the IETF reposi=
tory.



Name:               draft-geng-coms-problem-statement

Revision:  00

Title:                  Problem Statement of Supervised Heterogeneous Netwo=
rk Slicing

Document date:      2017-09-25

Group:               Individual Submission

Pages:               10

URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-geng-coms-proble=
m-statement-00.txt

Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-st=
atement/

Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-geng-coms-problem-stateme=
nt-00

Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-geng-coms-probl=
em-statement-00





Abstract:

   This document discusses the general requirements and problem

   statement of supervised heterogeneous network slicing.  The purpose

   of this document is to identify the key network components that are

   used to create a network slice instance.  Base on this information, a

   general network slice template can be visualized.  Furthermore, the

   requirement of a common information model is identified and

   corresponding management consideration of heterogeneous network slice

   instance is also discussed.


Best wishes

Liang






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<p>Hi Lei,</p>
<p><br>
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<p>Thanks for your email.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>In principle , the intra-slice management entity may include any&nbsp;pr=
e-defined network management&nbsp;functions&nbsp;per network slice tenant's=
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or a set of&nbsp;</span>function blocks ) of this entity are implementation=
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<p>However, I think it might be a good idea to elaborate more on what manag=
ement&nbsp;functions are&nbsp;needed&nbsp;within this&nbsp;entity (i.e. spe=
cific&nbsp;OAM functions).&nbsp;and this could also serve as a reference fo=
r the information model&nbsp;solution draft. Do you have any suggestions
 on this?</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Best wishes</p>
<p>Liang</p>
<p><br>
</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 28 September 2017 17:12:48<br>
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Hi Liang,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your work.<br>
<br>
I just reviewed the most recent draft you submitted, and I agree with the N=
S Intra Management you added. So in Intra management part, should we place =
some functions blocks into it?<br>
<br>
Kind Regards<br>
<br>
Lei Wang<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>=1B$B:_=1B(B 2017-09-25 11:15, GENG Liang &lt;liang.geng@hotmail.com&g=
t; =1B$B<LF;=1B(B:<br>
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<div><span></span>Dear All,</div>
<div><br>
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<div>We have submitted a problem statement draft for supervised heterogeneo=
us network slicing. Comments are extremely welcome</div>
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">A new version of I-D, draft-geng-coms-problem-statemen=
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">Title:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; This document discusses the general requi=
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; statement of supervised heterogeneous net=
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; of this document is to identify the key n=
etwork components that are<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; general network slice template can be vis=
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; requirement of a common information model=
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp; corresponding management consideration of=
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<span lang=3D"EN-US">Liang</span></p>
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Hi all,


There are some interesting conversations among the COMS (Common Operation a=
nd Management on network Slicing, the narrowed working item under network s=
licing concept in IETF ) proponents which I think are worthy of a broader d=
iscussion. The purpose is also to response to questions asked by Benoit and=
 many others, including the scope of COMS, relation to Orchestration (Heat =
etc.).


In summary, I list some of the the statements under discussion as follows:

  *   Information model is a starting point for COMS, it serves as the mapp=
ing function block between Service Delivery Model at NBI and the Network Co=
nfiguration Model (technology-specific) at SBI.


  *   Based on the information model, COMS will also look at Operation, man=
agement, inter-work etc.of network slicing. However, COMS does not work on =
the actual orchestration. Instead, it provides required network-slice-level=
 models for SDNO/NFVO etc to orchestrate accordingly.


  *   In response on the Openstack Heat topic. Heat serves as an orchestrat=
or at the VIM level. It is regarded as one of the technology choices for NF=
VI resource orchestration. In COMS scope, Heat can get resource requirement=
 information (through heat API or other approaches) from network slicing ma=
nager and initiate corresponding virtual resources. The user of COMS may al=
so choose other approaches for NFVI orchestration - i.e. NFVO of ETSI MANO =
with non-Heat-aware VIMs.


  *   COMS looks at both conventional network and NFV domains. We also dist=
inguish the connectivity resource in transport and the network resource in =
NFVI although they both relates to network links. Former one is mapped to S=
DN-ctrl/SDNO, the latter is mapped to NFVO. Other components such as Pre-de=
fined VNFs, Bare VMs are also mapped to NFVO. Dedicated resource such as ce=
rtain network servers (DNS, DHCP, NAT etc.), time/clock synchronization are=
 mapped to other EMS or RMS systems.

I hope this can generate some further interesting discussions. Your views a=
nd comments are extremely appreciated.

Best wishes
Liang

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<p><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">There are som=
e interesting
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ions</span><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"> amon=
g the COMS&nbsp;(<span>Common Operation and Management on network Slicing, =
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/span><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">questions =
asked by Benoit and many others, including the scope of COMS, relation to O=
rchestration&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans=
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 etc.</span><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">).</=
span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><br>
</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">In summary, I=
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<li><span style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Information =
model is a starting point for COMS, it serves as the mapping function block=
&nbsp;between Service Delivery Model at NBI and the Network Configuration M=
odel&nbsp;(technology-specific) at SBI.</span><br>
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</font></div>
<ul style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;">
<li><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Based on the information mo=
del, COMS will also look at Operation,&nbsp;management, inter-work etc.of n=
etwork slicing. However, COMS does not work on the actual orchestration. In=
stead, it provides required network-slice-level
 models for SDNO/NFVO etc to orchestrate accordingly.</font></li></ul>
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<ul style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;">
<li><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">In response on the&nbsp;Ope=
nstack Heat topic.&nbsp;Heat serves as an orchestrator at the VIM level. It=
 is regarded as one of the technology choices for NFVI resource&nbsp;orches=
tration. In COMS scope, Heat can get&nbsp;resource requirement&nbsp;informa=
tion
 (through heat API or other approaches) from network slicing manager and in=
itiate&nbsp;corresponding virtual resources. The user of COMS may also choo=
se other approaches for NFVI orchestration - i.e. NFVO of ETSI MANO with no=
n-Heat-aware VIMs.</font></li></ul>
<div><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<ul style=3D"margin-bottom: 0px; margin-top: 0px;">
<li><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">COMS looks at both conventi=
onal network and NFV domains. We also&nbsp;distinguish the connectivity res=
ource in transport&nbsp;and the network resource in NFVI although they both=
 relates to network&nbsp;links. Former one is mapped
 to SDN-ctrl/SDNO, the&nbsp;latter is mapped to NFVO. Other components such=
 as Pre-defined VNFs, Bare&nbsp;VMs are also mapped to NFVO. Dedicated reso=
urce such as certain network&nbsp;servers (DNS, DHCP, NAT etc.), time/clock=
 synchronization are mapped to other EMS or RMS
 systems.</font></li></ul>
<div><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I hope this can generate s=
ome further interesting&nbsp;discussions.&nbsp;Your views and comments are =
extremely appreciated.</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Best wishes</font></div>
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22nd October 2017



Hi Benoit and Warren



1. The current list of significant opensource projects under development =
is increasing at a momentous rate (i.e. it includes OpenStack@ =
https://www.openstack.org; OSM- Open Source Mano @https://osm.etsi.org, =
ONAP- Open Network Automation Platform @ https://www.onap.org). Such =
opensource systems mainly are managing partitions of connectivity, =
compute and storage resources.  Attempts are being made to design-in =
/retrofit network slicing [i.e. rather that simple partition of =
resources (connectivity, compute, storage)] into such environments.

Most of the 19 EU 5GPPP large-scale projects =
(https://5g-ppp.eu/5g-ppp-phase-1-projects/) already provide designs and =
open systems for network slicing.=20

2. Please note that Network Slicing (NS) enables the creation of dynamic =
provisioning of customized and partitioned networking facilities =
(forwarding and routing, network and management functions, QoS, =
security, connectivity, compute, and storage capabilities among others) =
and services over specific physical infrastructures. As such NS are =
significantly different from the simple partitions of resources =
(connectivity, compute, storage).

3. The network slice (NS) are created by a two phase process, the first =
being the onboarding function of an orchestrator, which takes as input =
an NS template (i.e. a description of service instance components, =
network functions instance components, connectivity, compute, storage =
resources, slice manager and capability exposure components) and it =
creates an image plus descriptor in the NS catalogue. The second =
subsequent phase is a request from the orchestrator made towards a =
specific infrastructure controller for activating the NS in an =
infrastructure domain, based on a specific descriptor from the =
catalogue. Such second phase could be instantiated to a Detnet =
controller or ACTN MD or VPN, which are strictly focusing on the =
connectivity resources and their management.

4. Experience from 3 developed orchestrators shows the structure of the =
NS template as including the following attributes: network-slice ID, =
nodes, links, connections points, storage resources, compute resources, =
topologies, network services functions, service specific managers, =
network functions, virtual network functions, network function specific =
managers and predefined function blocks.

5. As such a NS technology-agnostic information model (i.e. COMS model), =
which mimics the NS template, if standardised, would be a key =
inter-operability tool for NSs in a multi-domain/single domain =
environment, and it is being devised as a common support for:

=E2=80=A2 the orchestrator's onboarding function,

=E2=80=A2 the design of NS catalogue,

=E2=80=A2 the mapping of the NS request to a specific infrastructure =
controller for activating the NS in an infrastructure domain (i.e. =
southern interface of an orchestrator which enables NS )

=E2=80=A2 the mapping of service specific requests for supporting NS  =
(i.e. northern interface to an orchestrator which enables NS)

=20

Currently such model and related small list of related management =
/orchestration protocols are not standardised in any SDOs for the =
wireline infrastructure.

=20

6. Please note also that the NS proponents were / are / will not =
proposing a complete orchestration/management, controllers or NMS/OSS as =
part of the proposed work at IETF.

=20

I hope that the above would be of help to you.

=20

Best Regards

Alex

=20

=20

N.B. Updates of the following drafts are planed for next week in line =
with the above explanation as follows:

=20

=E2=80=A2 Problem Statement of Supervised Heterogeneous Network Slicing =
V2- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement/

=E2=80=A2 Technology Independent Information Model for Network Slicing =
V2- =
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-information-m=
odel

=E2=80=A2 NetSlicing Use Cases and requirements  V2 =
https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-netslices-usecases-02.tx

=E2=80=A2 Interconnecting Network Slice Subnets V1  =
https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-defoy-coms-subnet-interconnecti=
on-00.txt

=20

=20

=20



=20
=20
> On 10 Oct 2017, at 17:33, GENG Liang <liang.geng@hotmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Benoit,
>=20
>=20
> The orchestrator in a MANO system or the Openstack Heat may act as one =
of the management entity at the SBI side of the network slice manager.
>=20
> Unlike  many of the TE domain controllers (Detnet controller, ACTN MD) =
which focuses on the connectivity resources, these NFV orchestators deal =
with the computing and storage resources (and the networking within the =
NFVI pool).
>=20
> For example, a gaming company may ask for a network slice with A-C/B-C =
network topology and certain computing/storage power in C, where A and B =
are some subscriber hotpot with dedicated connection to C, and C is a =
network-slice-provider-owned datacenter. It request for certain VMs =
running in C datacenter for its own edge computing applications (i.e. =
AR/VR processing) and gaming acceleration purposes (i.e. an VPN client =
connecting to its main gaming server). Systems such as ETSI NFVO or =
Openstack Heat may be used to create such VMs as part of the =
orchestrated resources in this network slice.
>=20
> Best wishes
> Liang
>=20
> =20
> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Netslices <netslices-bounces@ietf.org =
<mailto:netslices-bounces@ietf.org>> =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Benoit Claise =
<bclaise@cisco.com <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>>
> =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2017=E5=B9=B410=E6=9C=885=E6=97=A5=
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> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: NetSlices@ietf.org =
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> =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [Netslices] NetSlices/COMS versus openstack
> =20
> Dear all,
>=20
> How does the COMS objectives relate to an opensource project such as =
openstack, which deals with compute, storage, networking?
> Typically openstack orchestration Heat =
<https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat>?=20
>=20
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<!--StartFragment--><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">22nd October 2017</span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><br class=3D""></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">Hi
Benoit and Warren<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><br class=3D""></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">1.
The current list of significant opensource projects under development is
increasing at a momentous rate (i.e. it includes OpenStack@ <a =
href=3D"https://www.openstack.org" =
class=3D"">https://www.openstack.org</a>; OSM- Open Source Mano @<a =
href=3D"https://osm.etsi.org" class=3D"">https://osm.etsi.org</a>, ONAP-
Open Network Automation Platform @ <a href=3D"https://www.onap.org" =
class=3D"">https://www.onap.org</a>). Such opensource
systems mainly are managing partitions of connectivity, compute and =
storage
resources.&nbsp; Attempts are being made to
design-in /retrofit network slicing [i.e. rather that simple partition =
of
resources (connectivity, compute, storage)] into such environments. <o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">Most
of the 19 EU 5GPPP large-scale projects (<a =
href=3D"https://5g-ppp.eu/5g-ppp-phase-1-projects/" =
class=3D"">https://5g-ppp.eu/5g-ppp-phase-1-projects/</a>)
already provide designs and open systems for network =
slicing.</span><span style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">2.
Please note that Network Slicing (NS) enables the creation of dynamic
provisioning of customized and partitioned networking facilities =
(forwarding
and routing, network and management functions, QoS, security, =
connectivity,
compute, and storage capabilities among others) and services over =
specific
physical infrastructures. As such NS are significantly different from =
the
simple partitions of resources (connectivity, compute, storage).<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">3.
The network slice (NS) are created by a two phase process, the first =
being the
onboarding function of an orchestrator, which takes as input an NS =
template
(i.e. a description of service instance components, network functions =
instance
components, connectivity, compute, storage resources, slice manager and
capability exposure components) and it creates an image plus descriptor =
in the
NS catalogue. The second subsequent phase is a request from the =
orchestrator
made towards a specific infrastructure controller for activating the NS =
in an
infrastructure domain, based on a specific descriptor from the =
catalogue. Such
second phase could be instantiated to a Detnet controller or ACTN MD or =
VPN,
which are strictly focusing on the connectivity resources and their =
management.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">4.
Experience from 3 developed orchestrators shows the structure of the NS
template as including the following attributes: network-slice ID, nodes, =
links,
connections points, storage resources, compute resources, topologies, =
network
services functions, service specific managers, network functions, =
virtual
network functions, network function specific managers and predefined =
function
blocks.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">5.
As such a NS technology-agnostic information model (i.e. COMS model), =
which
mimics the NS template, if standardised, would be a key =
inter-operability tool
for NSs in a multi-domain/single domain environment, and it is being =
devised as a common
support for: <o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">=E2=80=A2
the orchestrator's onboarding function, <o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">=E2=80=A2
the design of NS catalogue, <o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">=E2=80=A2
the mapping of the NS request to a specific infrastructure controller =
for
activating the NS in an infrastructure domain (i.e. southern interface =
of an
orchestrator which enables NS )<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">=E2=80=A2
the mapping of service specific requests for supporting NS&nbsp; (i.e. =
northern interface to an orchestrator
which enables NS)<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">Currently
such model and related small list of related management /orchestration
protocols are not standardised in any SDOs for the wireline =
infrastructure.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">6.
Please note also that the NS proponents were / are / will not proposing =
a
complete orchestration/management, controllers or NMS/OSS as part of the
proposed work at IETF.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">I
hope that the above would be of help to you.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">Best
Regards<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">Alex<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">N.B.
Updates of the following drafts are planed for next week in line with =
the above
explanation as follows:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">=E2=80=A2
Problem Statement of Supervised Heterogeneous Network Slicing V2-
<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement=
/" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-geng-coms-problem-statem=
ent/</a><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">=E2=80=A2
Technology Independent Information Model for Network Slicing V2-
<a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-infor=
mation-model" =
class=3D"">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-in=
formation-model</a><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">=E2=80=A2
NetSlicing Use Cases and requirements&nbsp; V2
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-netslices-usecases-02.tx" =
class=3D"">https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-netslices-usecases-02.tx</a><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">=E2=80=A2
Interconnecting Network Slice Subnets V1&nbsp;
<a =
href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-defoy-coms-subnet-inter=
connection-00.txt" =
class=3D"">https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-defoy-coms-subnet-in=
terconnection-00.txt</a><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></p>

<!--EndFragment--></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11px;" class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D""></span><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11px;" class=3D"">On 10 Oct 2017, at 17:33, GENG Liang &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:liang.geng@hotmail.com" =
class=3D"">liang.geng@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span></div><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"></span><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">Hi Benoit,</span></div><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">The orchestrator in a MANO system =
or the Openstack Heat may act as one of the management entity at the SBI =
side of the network slice manager.</span></div><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">Unlike&nbsp; many of the TE domain =
controllers (Detnet controller, ACTN MD) which focuses on the =
connectivity resources, these NFV orchestators deal with the computing =
and storage resources (and the networking&nbsp;within the NFVI =
pool).</span></div><div style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">For example, a gaming company may =
ask for a network slice with A-C/B-C network topology and certain =
computing/storage power in C, where A and B are some subscriber =
hotpot&nbsp;with dedicated connection&nbsp;to C, and C is a =
network-slice-provider-owned datacenter. It request for certain VMs =
running in C datacenter for its own edge computing applications (i.e. =
AR/VR processing) and gaming acceleration purposes (i.e. an VPN client =
connecting to its main gaming server). Systems such as ETSI NFVO or =
Openstack Heat may be used to create such VMs as part of the =
orchestrated resources in this network slice.</span></div><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">Best wishes</span></div><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D"">Liang</span></div><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 11px;"><br class=3D""></span></div><div =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 11px;">&nbsp;</span></div><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D""><hr tabindex=3D"-1" =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: =
inline-block; width: 842.796875px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D""></span></span><div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><font class=3D"" style=3D"font-size: 11px;"><span =
class=3D"">=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA:</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Netslices &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:netslices-bounces@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">netslices-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt; =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 Benoit =
Claise &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bclaise@cisco.com" =
class=3D"">bclaise@cisco.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4:</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>2017=E5=B9=B410=E6=9C=885=E6=97=
=A5 11:01<br class=3D""><span class=3D"">=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA:</spa=
n><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:NetSlices@ietf.org" class=3D"">NetSlices@ietf.org</a><br =
class=3D""><span class=3D"">=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98:</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[Netslices] NetSlices/COMS =
versus openstack</font><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11px;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div style=3D"font-variant-caps: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11px;" class=3D"">Dear all,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">How does the =
COMS objectives relate to an opensource project such as openstack, which =
deals with compute, storage, networking?<br class=3D"">Typically =
openstack orchestration<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Heat" class=3D"">Heat</a>?<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Regards, Benoit<br class=3D""></span></div><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-variant-caps: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;" =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________</span><br =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: =
inline !important;" class=3D"">Netslices mailing list</span><br =
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start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:Netslices@ietf.org" style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D"">Netslices@ietf.org</a><br =
style=3D"font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><a =
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
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Subject: Re: [Netslices] updates of 4 Network Slicing drafts
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Hi All

This is to inform you that 4 Network Slicing interrelated drafts were =
updated taking into account comments and contributions received in =
October 2017 period as follows:


=E2=80=A2 Problem Statement of Supervised Heterogeneous Network Slicing =
- draft-geng-coms-problem-statement ( =
https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-geng-coms-problem-statement-01.=
txt)

=E2=80=A2 Technology Independent Information Model for Network Slicing - =
draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-information-model =
(https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-qiang-coms-netslicing-informat=
ion-model-01.txt)

=E2=80=A2 Network Slicing Use Cases: Network Customization and =
Differentiated Services - draft-netslices-usecases =
(https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-netslices-usecases-02.txt)

=E2=80=A2 Interconnecting (or Stitching) Network Slice Subnets - =
draft-defoy-coms-subnet-interconnection-01(https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft=
-defoy-coms-subnet-interconnection-01.txt)

Best Regards
Alex

(in the name of Net Slicing proponents of new work at IETF)=

