Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id l8P7pXcV009834 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:51:38 +0200 Received: from localhost (demetrius.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE9276563; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:51:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02553-02-2; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:51:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA3487BAC; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:51:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 0294A34545B; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:51:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:51:19 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" Message-ID: <20070925075119.GC2308@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" , nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de References: <20070618203608.GB18602@elstar.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.3 (20050822) at jacobs-university.de X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.169.34.9 Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Subject: [nmrg] Re: My review of: draft-schoenw-sming-lessons-00.txt X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:51:40 -0000 On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 04:40:51PM +0200, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: > In general, I think this is a quite useful document. Thanks for your review. I have posted a new version which addresses the editorial issues and I have revised some of the introductory text. > For novice readers (those not directly involved with some > of the SMIng history), it might be helpful if a few > examples are included in various subsections of section 3. I did not add examples since reasonably examples take quite some space and thus the document will become rather long and I am afraid that this might scare away readers. I am currently also not sure whether I will continue this document in the IETF/IRTF; I might choose to find some other home for it. /js PS: I used the new ID submission tool; lets see how this works... -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id l8LJb2l9013383 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:37:07 +0200 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b11so814973nfh for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:37:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language:sender; bh=s75VH4CVNE6UxnI2hsGrkVO02Ujx0mDj5V+2nN7jEVg=; 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+0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Message-ID: <20070917145448.GA20557@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.3 (20050822) at jacobs-university.de X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.169.34.9 Subject: [nmrg] snmp trace analysis meeting X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:55:28 -0000 Hi, despite the lack of progress on the measurement ID, there are continued efforts to collect additional SNMP traces and to do some more advanced analysis on the collected traces: 1) Folks at the University of Twente have been working recently on algorithms to extract the non-periodic traffic out of SNMP traces (the more interesting stuff hidden in the periodic polls). 2) Folks at Jacobs University have tried to identify table retrieval algorithms used by management applications. 3) Folks at PSNC have applied some of the analysis tools and techniques to their networks and developed some further ideas what to look for in the collected traces. In order to discuss ongoing trace analysis work and to identify a core set of common definitions or metrics, it was suggested to hold a two day workshop on November 8-9 2007, hosted by the University of Twente in Enschede, Netherlands. This workshop would be sponsored by the European EMANICS project. Please send comments about this proposal to this list. If you plan to attend such a workshop, please also drop me a note. /js PS: I am sorry for not having updated the measurement ID yet but I decided to give priority to some IETF activities before working on the ID revision. -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103