Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m7QMcXxX031058 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:38:38 +0200 Received: from localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.46]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB10C0058 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:38:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius1.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L4ZaBsUilXx6; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:38:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F876C005A; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:38:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 199FB6B0B2D; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:38:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:38:26 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Message-ID: <20080826223826.GA28611@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -1.096 () BAYES_40 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.169.34.9 Subject: [nmrg] network management and future internet research funding X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:38:41 -0000 Hi, Those dealing with public research funding organizations will be aware of the discussions around the Future Internet. For those who are not in the public funded research business, a few words of explanation: There is currently quite some momentum to fund research concerning the Future Internet. What precisely this Future Internet is is not really clear; some people think about redesigning the Internet from scratch (clean slate design), other think about a network incorporating large amounts of sensor devices (the Internet of things), yet others believe in many federated Internets and so on. In Europe, the EU decided to invest money into Future Internet research and since it is not totally clear to the funding organizations what this stands for, we are now facing several events aiming to figure this out. One such event is called ICT 2008 [1]. Right now, the organizers select ICT 2008 sessions out of some 200+ session proposals. As part of the selection procedure, they currently collect (support) statements and ratings (until August 29). There is one session proposal I am aware of specifically looking at network management in the context of the Future Internet [2]. If you believe network management is an important challenge to address in the context of Future Internet research, then you might want to consider writing a supporting comment for [2]. /js PS: You do not have to be European to write support statements. [1] http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/events/ict/2008/index_en.htm [2] http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/events/cf/item-display.cfm?id=698 -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 Received: from relay.versatel.net (relay.versatel.net [62.250.3.110]) by bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with SMTP id m7OBEhll018448 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:14:49 +0200 Received: (qmail 12042 invoked from network); 24 Aug 2008 11:14:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO BertLaptop) (87.215.199.34) by relay.versatel.net with SMTP; 24 Aug 2008 11:14:43 -0000 Message-ID: <2EDA52689379451A9C4B580116FFEF9A@BertLaptop> From: "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" To: "NMRG" Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:14:16 +0200 Organization: Consultant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: 0.001 () BAYES_50 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.169.34.9 Subject: [nmrg] FYI: draft-irtf-nmrg-snmp-measure-05.txt is on the IESG agenda X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:14:50 -0000 FYI, the draft-irtf-nmrg-snmp-measure-05.txt is on the IESG agenda for this coming Thursday. I beleive that this is the last step before it moves to the RFC-Editor queue (assuming IESG makes no objections). Bert Wijnen document shepherd --------- extract from IESG telechat agenda for 27 Aug 2008: > 3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor > The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not > found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The > IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG > , but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks > that publication is harmful to work in WG and recommends > not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this > document violates the IETF procedures for and should > therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG > approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an > IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should > therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG > approval. > > The document shepherd must propose one of these responses in > the Data Tracker note and supply complete text in the IESG > Note portion of the write-up. The Area Director ballot positions > indicate consensus with the response proposed by the > document shepherd. > > Other matters may be recorded in comments, and the comments will > be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the > document. > > > 3.3.1 New Item > o draft-irtf-nmrg-snmp-measure-05.txt > SNMP Traffic Measurements and Trace Exchange Formats (Informational) > Note: Proposed IESG Note: . . The IESG thinks that this work is related > to > IETF work done in the Operations and Management Area related to SNMP, > but this does not prevent publishing.. . This RFC is not a candidate > for any > level of Internet Standard.. The IETF disclaims any knowledge of the > > fitness of this RFC for. any purpose and notes that the decision to > publish > is not based on. IETF review apart from the IETF Last Call on the > allocation of an URI by IANA and the IESG review for conflict with IETF > work.. The RFC Editor has chosen to publish this document at its. > discretion. See RFC 3932 for more information.. . > Token: Dan Romascanu > Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m7M7oIna022981 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:50:23 +0200 Received: from localhost (demetrius4.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.49]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5EDC00DE; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:50:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius4.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0IqY-K+WNyUE; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:50:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F1FC00D6; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:50:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id B3EDD69ABCE; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:50:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:50:11 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: vishwas Rudramurthy Subject: Re: [nmrg] Re: Nmrg Digest, Vol 45, Issue 3 Message-ID: <20080822075011.GB22337@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: vishwas Rudramurthy , nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de References: <200808211000.m7LA0IwQ007962@bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> <73aa801c0808210347r4af647afw6e3fb2a996ecbc26@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <73aa801c0808210347r4af647afw6e3fb2a996ecbc26@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.169.34.9 Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:50:25 -0000 On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 04:17:27PM +0530, vishwas Rudramurthy wrote: > I am very interested to participate in the conference, does workshop > features the discussion of managing of both wired or wireless networks?... > Could you please let me on this... The workshop's focus is NETFLOW/IPFIX and I guess it is of secondary interest to what type of link technology a probe is attached. I guess I do not understand your question... /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m7LAlSPS019758 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:47:33 +0200 Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so791519wfa.16 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:47:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=bfklrywKA5rMvmqfDCzvuOC82IBbrKca+c7U9J+RF/A=; b=PLuGTuxfKsytPTUjA+OEKjrOwfuW7hA2ZzGFC/p5iwnSIThgxrQCvw19MwZEKJ2yqo g2c2z2G0yqTBzuYXCB8E2K45I9kk3v9TGMbX07ibJVSHYTwXLMgZThywA+5Oste75eE9 1wZKO4KwVMGGKphRzaLA3Oq78RJfqxgDinT4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=sb9fuoMKdAt/TKHZCV2sFwzQovgk+AX9Wo/OXGgQTjdDt5SD1AJcZRIqTyI+P5D8Tp D6DdTGizMT2v/ytBIG3f0YeBf94fx1/UJZi8v0Or1BD31k6w8O9XwSKbfOTIRmzb/eZz sPGlC3Uqicc5V0t/j6Xc96ZHeSCZVo38RFP50= Received: by 10.142.134.20 with SMTP id h20mr439392wfd.188.1219315647154; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.140.6 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <73aa801c0808210347r4af647afw6e3fb2a996ecbc26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:17:27 +0530 From: "vishwas Rudramurthy" To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de In-Reply-To: <200808211000.m7LA0IwQ007962@bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17933_29980907.1219315647137" References: <200808211000.m7LA0IwQ007962@bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: 1.718 (*) BAYES_50, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_BY_IP X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.169.34.9 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:42 +0200 Subject: [nmrg] Re: Nmrg Digest, Vol 45, Issue 3 X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:47:36 -0000 ------=_Part_17933_29980907.1219315647137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello Professor, I am very interested to participate in the conference, does workshop features the discussion of managing of both wired or wireless networks?... Could you please let me on this... *Thanks in Advance!* *Vishwas* On 8/21/08, nmrg-request@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de wrote: > > Send Nmrg mailing list submissions to > nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman/listinfo/nmrg > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmrg-request@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmrg-owner@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Nmrg digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [IPFIX] Netflow/IPFIX workshop: information and request > for feedback (Juergen Schoenwaelder) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:11:19 +0200 > From: Juergen Schoenwaelder > Subject: [nmrg] Re: [IPFIX] Netflow/IPFIX workshop: information and > request for feedback > To: Atsushi Kobayashi > Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, ipfix@ietf.org > Message-ID: <20080820161119.GA19573@elstar.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:44:06PM +0900, Atsushi Kobayashi wrote: > > > I am interested in the workshop. I have one question. > > > > Does scope include the new feature of IPFIX/PSAMP? > > Ramin is the organizer of the workshop and he should provide an > authoritative answer. However, I would be surprised if he would rule > out discussion of new features or usage scenarios of IPFIX/PSAMP. > > /js > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. > !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To unsubscribe or > adjust > !! your settings, send a mail message to > !! or look at https://mail.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. > > End of Nmrg Digest, Vol 45, Issue 3 > *********************************** > -- VISHWAS R ------=_Part_17933_29980907.1219315647137 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hello Professor,
 
I am very interested to participate in the conference, does workshop features the discussion of managing of both wired or wireless networks?... Could you please let me on this...
 
Thanks in Advance!
Vishwas

 
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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:11:19 +0200
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
Subject: [nmrg] Re: [IPFIX] Netflow/IPFIX workshop: information and
       request for feedback
To: Atsushi Kobayashi <akoba@nttv6.net>
Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, ipfix@ietf.org
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:44:06PM +0900, Atsushi Kobayashi wrote:

> I am interested in the workshop. I have one question.
>
> Does scope include the new feature of IPFIX/PSAMP?

Ramin is the organizer of the workshop and he should provide an
authoritative answer. However, I would be surprised if he would rule
out discussion of new features or usage scenarios of IPFIX/PSAMP.

/js

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VISHWAS R ------=_Part_17933_29980907.1219315647137-- Received: from rotterdam.ewi.utwente.nl (rotterdam.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.5]) by bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m7LABlJg010511 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:11:52 +0200 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ewi1009.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.11.34]) by rotterdam.ewi.utwente.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m7LABfST008325; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:11:46 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <48AD3F58.203@ewi.utwente.nl> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:11:36 +0200 From: Ramin Sadre User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Atsushi Kobayashi , ipfix@ietf.org, nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Subject: Re: [nmrg] Re: [IPFIX] Netflow/IPFIX workshop: information and request for feedback References: <20080820071212.GC17541@elstar.local> <20080820190430.2B60.17391CF2@nttv6.net> <20080820161119.GA19573@elstar.local> In-Reply-To: <20080820161119.GA19573@elstar.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.169.34.9 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 130.89.10.5 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0rc3 (rotterdam.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.5]); Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:11:47 +0200 (MEST) X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -1.951 () BAYES_20 Cc: Juergen Schoenwaelder X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:11:55 -0000 >> I am interested in the workshop. I have one question. >> Does scope include the new feature of IPFIX/PSAMP? > Ramin is the organizer of the workshop and he should provide an > authoritative answer. However, I would be surprised if he would rule > out discussion of new features or usage scenarios of IPFIX/PSAMP. Indeed, discussion of features/usage of IPFIX/PSAMP is welcome. In this context, please note that we have recently added the topic "How do sampling and aggregation affect the volume and accuracy of data collection and analysis?" to the list of topics. Please also see http://www.simpleweb.org/netflow/ Regards, Ramin Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m7KGBRsZ013165 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:11:32 +0200 Received: from localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.48]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3150CC0083; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:11:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius3.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lgZ0En8+H4wT; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:11:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D60FC0079; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id BDBEF699040; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:11:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:11:19 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: Atsushi Kobayashi Message-ID: <20080820161119.GA19573@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: Atsushi Kobayashi , ipfix@ietf.org, nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de References: <20080820071212.GC17541@elstar.local> <20080820190430.2B60.17391CF2@nttv6.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080820190430.2B60.17391CF2@nttv6.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.169.34.9 Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, ipfix@ietf.org Subject: [nmrg] Re: [IPFIX] Netflow/IPFIX workshop: information and request for feedback X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:11:39 -0000 On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:44:06PM +0900, Atsushi Kobayashi wrote: > I am interested in the workshop. I have one question. > > Does scope include the new feature of IPFIX/PSAMP? Ramin is the organizer of the workshop and he should provide an authoritative answer. However, I would be surprised if he would rule out discussion of new features or usage scenarios of IPFIX/PSAMP. /js -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 Received: from faui45.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui45.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.45]) by bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m7KEhwv0024786 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:44:03 +0200 Received: from faui7s0.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui7s0.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.37.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by faui45.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2FEA4828; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:43:57 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [131.188.37.96] (faui7m16 [131.188.37.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by faui7s0.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A231BB0038; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:43:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48AC2DAF.20605@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:43:59 +0200 From: Christoph Sommer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ipfix@ietf.org, nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de, j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de References: <20080820071212.GC17541@elstar.local> In-Reply-To: <20080820071212.GC17541@elstar.local> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -2.599 () BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.169.34.9 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:22 +0200 Subject: [nmrg] Re: [IPFIX] Netflow/IPFIX workshop: information and request for feedback X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:44:10 -0000 Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > Please drop a note if you plan to contribute so that I can > gauge interest. Sounds like a good opportunity to discuss some open issues, esp. regarding hierachical flow aggregation! I just sent an E-Mail to arrange for a timeslot. Kind regards, -- Christoph Sommer Computer Networks and Communication Systems University of Erlangen-Nuremberg, Germany Phone: +49 9131 85-27993 / Fax: +49 9131 85-27409 http://www7.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~sommer/ Received: from mail.nttv6.net (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:2001:fa8::25]) by bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m7KAlSJR009019 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:47:35 +0200 Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:fa8:1000:0:e909:51aa:c18a:d513]) by mail.nttv6.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m7KAlK1u000410; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:47:20 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from akoba@nttv6.net) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:44:06 +0900 From: Atsushi Kobayashi To: ipfix@ietf.org, nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de In-Reply-To: <20080820071212.GC17541@elstar.local> References: <20080820071212.GC17541@elstar.local> Message-Id: <20080820190430.2B60.17391CF2@nttv6.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.46 [ja] X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:2001:fa8::25]); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:47:24 +0900 (JST) X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -3.299 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on IPv6:2001:638:602:2200:20d:60ff:fe9a:2b5c X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:07 +0200 Subject: [nmrg] Re: [IPFIX] Netflow/IPFIX workshop: information and request for feedback X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:47:37 -0000 Hi, I am interested in the workshop. I have one question. Does scope include the new feature of IPFIX/PSAMP? I think that NetFlow usage is limited to anomaly traffic detection, accounting system or traffic engineering. Definitely, they are main scope of NetFlow/IPFIX. But, I believe that new features of IPFIX/PSAMP can apply a passive measurement of network performance, and so on. I feel that many network operators haven't recognized new feature of IPFIX/PSAMP. Although VoIP and IPTV services are expanding, it is troublesome to introduce the passive measurement system as before. To cope with it and accelerate an implementation of IPFIX/PSAMP, I hope that case studies using IPFIX/PSAMP are considered more and more in several workshops and communities. Regards, Atsushi KOBAYASHI On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:12:12 +0200 Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > Hi, > > the following Netflow/IPFIX workshop/meeting proposal was sent to the > Network Management Research Group (NMRG) mailing list on July 31st. I > like to know whether there is support for such an event form the IPFIX > community. Please drop a note if you plan to contribute so that I can > gauge interest. > > If you have questions concerning the scope and organization, please > contact Ramin Sadre. If the question is of general interest, please > keep the NMRG list on CC for now. > > /js > > ----- Forwarded message from Ramin Sadre ----- > > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:37:12 +0200 > From: Ramin Sadre > User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) > To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de > Subject: [nmrg] Netflow/IPFIX workshop: information and request for feedback > > Dear list members, > > (we apologize for multiple postings) > > as already announced some days ago, the EMANICS network of excellence > is currently preparing the > EMANICS Workshop on Netflow/IPFIX usage in network management > http://www.simpleweb.org/netflow/ > The workshop will take place October 30, at the LRZ Munich, Germany. > > We would highly appreciate your feedback and, of course, your > participation. In addition, we kindly ask you to express your opinion > on making the workshop a joint Emanics&IRTF-NMRG event. > > We want the workshop to be an opportunity for people to exchange and > discuss their experiences and ideas. To structure the discussions > the workshop will be organized into several discussion topics. > For each discussion topic, there will be short presentations (5-10 minutes) > introducing the topic, followed by a discussion round. > > Currently, the following topics are planned: > 1. "What technologies are available to analyze flow data?" > Presentations: > * Flow record query languages. > * Using SQL databases for flow processing. > 2. "What can be expected from distributed analysis techniques?" > Presentations: > * A distributed architecture for IP flow analysis. > 3. "Should we have a standard format for the annotation of Netflow/IPFIX traces?" > Presentations: > * Labeling flow traces for intrusion detection evaluation. > 4. "For what kind of applications can Netflow/IPFIX be used?" > Presentations: > * Network anomaly characterization using flows. > * Application level dependency discovery with flows. > * Management of light paths in optical networks using flows. > > The above list is still preliminary and we welcome your contributions > and suggestions. > > Regards, > Ramin Sadre > > -- > !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. > !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To unsubscribe or adjust > !! your settings, send a mail message to > !! or look at https://mail.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > _______________________________________________ > IPFIX mailing list > IPFIX@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix --- Atsushi KOBAYASHI NTT Information Sharing Platform Lab. tel:+81-(0)422-59-3978 fax:+81-(0)422-59-5637 Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de (hermes.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.23]) by bierator.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id m7K7CKIX016537 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:12:25 +0200 Received: from localhost (demetrius2.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.47]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32E9C0072; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:12:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jacobs-university.de Received: from hermes.jacobs-university.de ([212.201.44.23]) by localhost (demetrius2.jacobs-university.de [212.201.44.32]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UvGqSRwrGS1J; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:12:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from elstar.local (elstar.iuhb02.iu-bremen.de [10.50.231.133]) by hermes.jacobs-university.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEA1C006A; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:12:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: by elstar.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id BF101697409; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:12:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:12:12 +0200 From: Juergen Schoenwaelder To: ipfix@ietf.org Message-ID: <20080820071212.GC17541@elstar.local> Mail-Followup-To: ipfix@ietf.org, nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-IBRFilter-SpamReport: -1.951 () BAYES_20 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.51 on 134.169.34.9 Cc: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Subject: [nmrg] Netflow/IPFIX workshop: information and request for feedback X-BeenThere: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de List-Id: Network Management Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:12:27 -0000 Hi, the following Netflow/IPFIX workshop/meeting proposal was sent to the Network Management Research Group (NMRG) mailing list on July 31st. I like to know whether there is support for such an event form the IPFIX community. Please drop a note if you plan to contribute so that I can gauge interest. If you have questions concerning the scope and organization, please contact Ramin Sadre. If the question is of general interest, please keep the NMRG list on CC for now. /js ----- Forwarded message from Ramin Sadre ----- Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:37:12 +0200 From: Ramin Sadre User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) To: nmrg@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de Subject: [nmrg] Netflow/IPFIX workshop: information and request for feedback Dear list members, (we apologize for multiple postings) as already announced some days ago, the EMANICS network of excellence is currently preparing the EMANICS Workshop on Netflow/IPFIX usage in network management http://www.simpleweb.org/netflow/ The workshop will take place October 30, at the LRZ Munich, Germany. We would highly appreciate your feedback and, of course, your participation. In addition, we kindly ask you to express your opinion on making the workshop a joint Emanics&IRTF-NMRG event. We want the workshop to be an opportunity for people to exchange and discuss their experiences and ideas. To structure the discussions the workshop will be organized into several discussion topics. For each discussion topic, there will be short presentations (5-10 minutes) introducing the topic, followed by a discussion round. Currently, the following topics are planned: 1. "What technologies are available to analyze flow data?" Presentations: * Flow record query languages. * Using SQL databases for flow processing. 2. "What can be expected from distributed analysis techniques?" Presentations: * A distributed architecture for IP flow analysis. 3. "Should we have a standard format for the annotation of Netflow/IPFIX traces?" Presentations: * Labeling flow traces for intrusion detection evaluation. 4. "For what kind of applications can Netflow/IPFIX be used?" Presentations: * Network anomaly characterization using flows. * Application level dependency discovery with flows. * Management of light paths in optical networks using flows. The above list is still preliminary and we welcome your contributions and suggestions. Regards, Ramin Sadre -- !! This message is brought to you via the `nmrg' mailing list. !! Please do not reply to this message to unsubscribe. To unsubscribe or adjust !! your settings, send a mail message to !! or look at https://mail.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de/mailman/listinfo/nmrg. ----- End forwarded message -----