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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, The NMRG session at the IETF 111 meeting is currently scheduled for Tuesday= , July 27, 2021 UTC 23:00-01:00 (+1), Session III If you would like to present your work, please inform the Chairs, or share = directly on the mailing list. Please send your suggestions by 12 July at th= e latest. Thank you. Best regards, Laurent & J=E9r=F4me --_000_KL1PR03MB5715EF2A39C7B1D4D8382683E3009KL1PR03MB5715apcp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Thank you. Best regards, Lau= rent & J=E9r=F4me

 

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The conference topics include (but are not limited to): =20 Cloud network and resource management - Data Center Network Optimization and Management - Reliability of Data Center Network and Architecture - Energy-Efficient Datacenters and Networks - Cloud Traffic Characterization and Measurements - Cloud Traffic Engineering - Data Flow Management and Load Balancing - Cloud Storage Management - Green and Energy-Efficient Datacenters and Network - Cloud-Native Function Management - AI/ML-assisted cloud resource management and orchestration Cloud network and virtualization - Data Center Networks - Virtual Ethernet Switching, Data Center Bridging - Mobile Cloud Networking - Cloud Slicing - RAN virtualization (Cloud RAN, vRAN, OpenRAN) - Virtualization of Network Equipment - Software-Defined Networking - Network Function Virtualization - Middleware and Middleboxes Cloud network and supported services - Big Data Management - Data Analytics in Cloud - Vehicular cloud computing - Network Services to support IaaS, PaaS, and SaaS - Unified User and Machine Mobility Management - Content and Service Distribution - Complementing Edge Computing with Data Center Networks - Edge Computing - Location-based Services Cloud network architecture - Control-Plane Architectures - Distributed Data Center Architectures - Routing in cloud networks - Intra-Cloud vs Inter-Cloud Management - Cloud Federation and Hybrid Cloud Infrastructure - Named Data Networking - Information Centric Networking - Cloud architectures to enable ML/AI Cloud network security and privacy - Security, Privacy, and Confidentiality in Cloud Networking - Cloud Data Provenance and Data Loss Protection - Cloud Sovereignty - Cloud Storage Security - Blockchain technologies for privacy-preserving service discovery - Cloud Network Intrusion Detection/Prevention - Firewall and Deep Packet Inspection Systems in Cloud Networks - AI/ML for cloud security *** Submission Instructions *** Authors are invited to submit original contributions that have not been = published or submitted for publication elsewhere. Submissions must be in = IEEE single-spaced double-column style with a length limitation of 6 = pages (including title, abstract, all figures, and tables) for full = papers (oral presentation) and 3 pages for short papers (poster = presentation), both excluding references. For full papers, authors will = be able to purchase up to 2 extra pages for an additional fee (for a = total of up to 8 pages + references). Accepted papers will be published = in IEEE Xplore. *** Important Dates *** Abstract registration: July 14, 2021 (Extended) Paper submission: July 14, 2021 Acceptance notification: September 15, 2021 Camera-ready paper: September 30, 2021 Conference: November 8-10, 2021 *** Organizing Team *** * General Chair * Susmit Shannigrahi, Tennessee Tech, USA * TPC Co-Chairs * Spyridon Mastorakis, University of Nebraska at Omaha, USA Chrysa Papagianni, University of Amsterdam, Netherlands Venkatesh Tamarapalli, Indian Institute of Technology Guwahati, India * Publicity Co-Chairs * Takehiro Sato, Kyoto University, Japan Panagiotis Papadimitriou, University of Macedonia, Greece Lelio Di Martino, Nokia Bell Labs * Publication Chair * Valerio Formicola, Siemens * Web Chair * Alex Afanasyev, Florida International University, USA * Senior Conference Planner * Tina Gaerlan, IEEE ComSoc, USA * Treasurer * Bruce Worthman, IEEE ComSoc, USA ----- Takehiro Sato CloudNet2021 Publicity Co-Chair https://cloudnet2021.ieee-cloudnet.org/ From nobody Fri Jul 2 09:35:20 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3973A242B for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 09:35:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ylPxRd8wWTZJ for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 09:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cnit.it (mail.cnit.it [217.9.64.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3E6D3A2428 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 09:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cnit.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D1B40E0B for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 18:35:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by cnit.it Received: from mail.cnit.it ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cnit.it [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id Np2z2qbv-czK for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 18:35:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.113] (host-80-104-65-42.retail.telecomitalia.it [80.104.65.42]) by mail.cnit.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 74DAD40152 for ; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 18:35:07 +0200 (CEST) To: nmrg@irtf.org From: Barbara Martini Message-ID: <1d17e0a1-feda-ccf5-0641-37d0cde4a093@cnit.it> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 18:35:23 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: it Archived-At: Subject: [nmrg] [NoF 2021] Call for Demos - Deadline: July 19, 2021 X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 16:35:19 -0000 Apologies for cross-posting ********************************************************************************                                  Call for Demos                                     NoF 2021            The 12th International Conference on Network of the Future                      October 6-8, 2021 – Coimbra, Portugal                                   Hybrid event http://nof2021.dnac.org ******************************************************************************** - NoF 2021 is technically co-sponsored by IEEE, IEEE ComSoc. - All accepted & presented demo papers will be submitted to IEEE Xplore. *** Paper submission deadline: July 19, 2021 *** The  12th  International Conference on  Network of the Future (NoF) is  inviting authors to submit original contributions  in the area of Future Internet design, with emphasis on enabling and cutting-edge technologies from the perspectives of specification,  design and  analysis related to  network of future architecture, applications, services,  management, scalability, standardization, business and legal aspects, just to name a few. NoF 2021 Demo Sessions aims at offering  a venue for the latest breakthroughs in the topics of interest of NoF 2021  to be presented live and discussed with the audience.  Demos ranging from working prototypes, novel applications and ground- breaking ideas to live experiments in the areas shaping future networks are wel- come. We also encourage demos from industrial researchers. The  conference  aims  at  providing  a  forum  for  researchers, students, and professionals  to  exchange ideas,  share  their experiences,  and discuss their research results  around a single-track  of technical sessions and a series  of keynote speeches. NoF 2021 will take place at the University of Coimbra in Portugal. The  conference  will  be  designed  and prepared  as a  hybrid event  allowing registrants the choice to participate either virtually or in-person. In the case of perduring traveling restrictions (official or de facto) during the conference dates due  to the COVID-19 pandemic, we will  be ready to convert the conference to a fully on-line event. *** Topics of interest *** The topics of interest include, but are not limited to: Networks   * 5G/6G networks   * Virtual networks   * Overlay networks   * Wireless networks and cellular networks   * Wireless sensor networks   * Access, metro, backbone and core networks   * Vehicular ad hoc networks and intelligent transportation systems   * Mesh and ad hoc networks   * Internet of Things networks   * Information-centric networks   * Enterprise networks and campus networks   * Time-sensitive networks   * Data center networks   * Optical networks   * IP networks   * Home networks   * SCADA networks and distributed control systems   * Smart Cities and Smart Grids   * Resilient networks Enablers   * Quality of service and traffic engineering   * Network Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning and Reasoning   * Network Data Analytics, Anomaly Detection, Feature Extraction   * Network automation and orchestration   * Autonomic, Cognitive and Intent-based Networking   * 5G/6G Network Architecture, Services and Protocols   * 5G/6G Control and Management Architecture   * 5G/6G Functional Decomposition and Composition   * Advanced 5G Infrastructure Slicing and Radio Slicing   * Scalability and multi-tenancy in 5G/6G   * Network Programmability and Softwarization   * Protocols for Ultra-Low Latency and Ultra-High Reliability   * Fog, Edge and Multi-Access Computing   * Software Defined Networking (SDN) and High Availability   * Network Function Virtualization (NFV) and Orchestration   * Service Function Chaining and Virtual Network Embedding   * Big data and Fast Data Processing and Management   * CDN Architectures and Network Cache Allocation Schemes   * Advanced multimedia and real-time communications   * Performance, Optimization and Resource Dimensioning   * Security, Trust and Privacy   * Use of Blockchains in Networking and Servicing *** Submission guidelines *** Prospective authors are invited  to submit Demo proposals in the form of a 3-page paper in  IEEE conference  double-column format, preferably incorporating a demo system architecture illustration. The proposal should also include:   * a motivation of the demo;   * a clear statement of what will be demonstrated,  key networking concepts that     are involved and the specific contribution with respect to related work;   * what  NoF 2021 attendees  will experience  during the demonstration, possibly     with visual outcomes to highlight the interest of the demo;   * relevant references,  in particular if  the demo is related to a paper being     sub-mitted in the main conference;   * the demo setup and technical requirements. Authors are also encouraged to optionally include  in the paper submission a link that opens a quite short (1-3 min) video illustrating the demo and its scope. Demo papers must be submitted  electronically through EDAS in  PDF format only at https://edas.info/N28072 For specific details  about submission format and procedure, please check: https://nof2021.dnac.org/call-for-papers/ Demo papers will be peer-reviewed and accepted proposals will be included in the conference proceedings  provided to NoF 2021  attendees and will be subsequently submitted to IEEE Xplore. At least one author of each accepted demo proposal is required to register to NoF 2021 conference and present the demo at the scheduled demo session. *** Important dates *** - Paper submission deadline: July 19, 2021 - Paper acceptance notification: July 30, 2021 - Camera-ready Papers:  August 30, 2021 *** Demo Co-Chairs *** - Federica Paganelli  (federica.paganelli@unipi.it, University of Pisa, Italy) - Paulo Simoes (psimoes@dei.uc.pt, University of Coimbra, Portugal) From nobody Fri Jul 2 15:02:57 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@irtf.org Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2F63A08E3; Fri, 2 Jul 2021 15:02:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: irtf-chair@irtf.org, nmrg@irtf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.34.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <162526336882.26814.18059981504053534722@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 15:02:48 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [nmrg] nmrg - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 111 X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2021 22:02:49 -0000 Dear Laurent Ciavaglia, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. nmrg Session 1 (2:00 requested) Tuesday, 27 July 2021, Session III 1600-1800 Room Name: Room 4 size: 504 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/sessions/nmrg.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Network Management Area Name: IRTF Session Requester: Laurent Ciavaglia Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 80 Conflicts to Avoid: People who must be present: Jerome Francois Laurent Ciavaglia Resources Requested: Special Requests: If possible, end time no later than 15:00 PDT (midnight in Europe, timezone of both NMRG co-chairs). --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Jul 5 19:09:38 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 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21:25:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------906DFBEE88EF4A415C6B7B01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear all, I would like to thank you all for proposing your help to lead some challenges and providing inputs in the doc. Note that I've now created a third version of the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I9Z3MiwqdY_CkQI5yWpyKRTvIYjeDqWM5fDIZQ_K63o/edit It reflects the discussion by emails and during meetings. Lead editors have been partially identified in bold fonts (some needs to be confirmed) We start now phase 2 dedicated to collectively write the two selected challenges as examples. I suggest the following ones: - #2 data management - #9 AI for planning of actions *T**he deadline is July 18. I ask every contributor to provide their inputs and the lead editor to monitor and consolidate them according to the generic template we defined in the last meeting:* - Motivation --> Highlight the criticality/impact of the problem to be addressed - Current SotA --> current proposals / trends based on reference/survey - Detailed description of the sub(challenges) -->Highlight what are the remaining issues to be resolved from the previous SotA *I would like also to propose a tentative editorial meeting focused on these two challenges to finalize them the week before IETF. Please fill out the following doodle by July 9:* https://doodle.com/poll/ek99tvzgt9tzxvua?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link Best regards, jerome Le 25/06/2021 à 10:09, Jérôme François a écrit : > Dear all, > > You can find the minutes of our last virtual meeting > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2021-nmrg-03-202106221400/ > > To progress on the document we agree to target the following timeline: > > *1) June 30 > *- List of challenges identified* > *- One lead editor per challenge identified > > > *2) July 18* > Writing of one or two challenges as example(s) based on the template (see the > slides: > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FH4M884mHXdr2WrZZ3UTcuxlIxUV4mXE/edit#slide=id.ge19cc74927_0_58) > (They will be identified after June 30) > > *3) September 07* > All challenges written according to the template with an equivalent level of > details of the examples > Introduction refined according to current comments (Jerome) > > > *For point 1):* > - the list of challenges must be frozen for our first iteration (challenges > could be added later if needed) > - The current challenge > (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dQOzZustI2mkYr_omtiqu3FqUvoqLgaCp7nbRj4ZJyw/edit) > list will be kept with the following modifications: > -- "#2 data" merged with "#13 Scalable real-time monitoring" > -- "#9 AI for Intent-based management " to be reshaped as AI for planning > actions in NM (not specific to IBN) > -- "#8 ML for Intent based management": must not be specific to IBN. Maybe to be > merged "#10 AI for Exploiting External Events" under a challenge related to the > use of non technical/external data but we would like to have more feedback here. > > Of course, this represents the outcome of the discussion we had during the > meeting but please do not hesistate to provide *any feedback until June 30. > > * *Besides, please let me know by June 30 if you are willing to be the lead > editor for a challenge.** > **Anybody can contribute to any challenge but the role of the lead editor would > be to integrate the different comments/modifications proposed.** > *** > Thanks for your help in progressing on this document. > > Best regards > Jérôme > > > > _______________________________________________ > nmrg mailing list > nmrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg --------------906DFBEE88EF4A415C6B7B01 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear all,

I would like to thank you all for proposing your help to lead some challenges and providing inputs in the doc.
Note that I've now created a third version of the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I9Z3MiwqdY_CkQI5yWpyKRTvIYjeDqWM5fDIZQ_K63o/edit

It reflects the discussion by emails and during meetings.
Lead editors have been partially identified in bold fonts (some needs to be confirmed)

We start now phase 2 dedicated to collectively write the two selected challenges as examples. I suggest the following ones:
- #2 data management
- #9 AI for planning of actions

The deadline is July 18. I ask every contributor to provide their inputs and the lead editor to monitor and consolidate them according to the generic template we defined in the last meeting:
- Motivation
--> Highlight the criticality/impact of the problem to be addressed
- Current SotA
--> current proposals / trends based on reference/survey
- Detailed description of the sub(challenges)
-->Highlight what are the remaining issues to be resolved from the previous SotA

I would like also to propose a tentative editorial meeting focused on these two challenges to finalize them the week before IETF. Please fill out the following doodle by July 9:

https://doodle.com/poll/ek99tvzgt9tzxvua?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link

Best regards,
jerome


Le 25/06/2021 à 10:09, Jérôme François a écrit :
Dear all,

You can find the minutes of our last virtual meeting https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2021-nmrg-03-202106221400/

To progress on the document we agree to target the following timeline:

1) June 30
- List of challenges identified
- One lead editor per challenge identified


2) July 18
Writing of one or two challenges as example(s) based on the template (see the slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FH4M884mHXdr2WrZZ3UTcuxlIxUV4mXE/edit#slide=id.ge19cc74927_0_58)
(They will be identified after June 30)

3) September 07
All challenges written according to the template with an equivalent level of details of the examples
Introduction refined according to current comments (Jerome)


For point 1):
- the list of challenges must be frozen for our first iteration (challenges could be added later if needed)
- The current challenge (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dQOzZustI2mkYr_omtiqu3FqUvoqLgaCp7nbRj4ZJyw/edit) list will be kept with the following modifications:
-- "#2 data" merged with "#13 Scalable real-time monitoring"
-- "#9 AI for Intent-based management " to be reshaped as AI for planning actions in NM (not specific to IBN)
-- "#8 ML for Intent based management": must not be specific to IBN. Maybe to be merged "#10 AI for Exploiting External Events" under a challenge related to the use of non technical/external data but we would like to have more feedback here.

Of course, this represents the outcome of the discussion we had during the meeting but please do not hesistate to provide any feedback until June 30.

 Besides, please let me know by June 30 if you are willing to be the lead editor for a challenge.
 Anybody can contribute to any challenge but the role of the lead editor would be to integrate the different comments/modifications proposed.
Thanks for your help in progressing on this document.

Best regards
Jérôme



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------=_NextPart_000_02A4_01D773ED.5BBAA140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, experts in NMRG,=20 We just submitted a new version of I-D = draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts-04.txt.=20 The main changed in the version are listed as below.=20 1) Changed the I-D title from "Concepts of Digital Twin Network" to = "Digital Twin Network: Concepts and Reference Architecture". 2) Update data definition and models definitions to clarify their = difference. 3) Remove the orchestration element and consolidated into control = functionality building block in the digital twin network. 4) Clarify the mapping relation (one to one, and one to many) in the = mapping definition. 5) Add explanation text for continuous verification. We would appreciate any thoughts or comments on this I-D from the group. Thanks and Best Regards, Cheng Zhou (on behalf of co-authors) -----Original mail ----- =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: internet-drafts@ietf.org = [mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org]=20 =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2021=E5=B9=B47=E6=9C=888=E6=97=A5 = 11:02 =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Antonio Pastor; Cheng Zhou; Christian = Jacquenet; Diego Lopez; Hongwei Yang; Mohamed Boucadair; Qin WU; Qin Wu; = Xiaodong Duan =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: New Version Notification for = draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts-04.txt A new version of I-D, = draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts-04.txt has been successfully submitted by Cheng Zhou and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts Revision: 04 Title: Digital Twin Network: Concepts and Reference Architecture Document date: 2021-07-07 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 17 URL: = https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-conce= pts-04.txt Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-conc= epts/ Htmlized: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network= -concepts Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-c= oncepts-04 Abstract: Digital Twin technology has been seen as a rapid adoption technology in Industry 4.0. The application of Digital Twin technology in the networking field is meant to realize efficient and intelligent management and accelerate network innovation. This document presents an overview of the concepts of Digital Twin Network (DTN), provides the definition and reference architecture, application scenarios, and then describes the benefits and key challenges of such technology. = =20 The IETF Secretariat ------=_NextPart_000_02A4_01D773ED.5BBAA140 Content-Type: text/plain; name="draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts-04.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts-04.txt" =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Internet Research Task Force C. Zhou=0A= Internet-Draft H. Yang=0A= Intended status: Informational X. Duan=0A= Expires: January 8, 2022 China Mobile=0A= D. Lopez=0A= A. Pastor=0A= Telefonica I+D=0A= Q. Wu=0A= Huawei=0A= M. Boucadair=0A= C. Jacquenet=0A= Orange=0A= July 7, 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= Digital Twin Network: Concepts and Reference Architecture=0A= draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts-04=0A= =0A= Abstract=0A= =0A= Digital Twin technology has been seen as a rapid adoption technology=0A= in Industry 4.0. The application of Digital Twin technology in the=0A= networking field is meant to realize efficient and intelligent=0A= management and accelerate network innovation. This document presents=0A= an overview of the concepts of Digital Twin Network (DTN), provides=0A= the definition and reference architecture, application scenarios, and=0A= then describes the benefits and key challenges of such technology.=0A= =0A= Status of This Memo=0A= =0A= This Internet-Draft is submitted in full conformance with the=0A= provisions of BCP 78 and BCP 79.=0A= =0A= Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering=0A= Task Force (IETF). Note that other groups may also distribute=0A= working documents as Internet-Drafts. The list of current Internet-=0A= Drafts is at https://datatracker.ietf.org/drafts/current/.=0A= =0A= Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months=0A= and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any=0A= time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference=0A= material or to cite them other than as "work in progress."=0A= =0A= This Internet-Draft will expire on January 8, 2022.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 1]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= Copyright Notice=0A= =0A= Copyright (c) 2021 IETF Trust and the persons identified as the=0A= document authors. All rights reserved.=0A= =0A= This document is subject to BCP 78 and the IETF Trust's Legal=0A= Provisions Relating to IETF Documents=0A= (https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info) in effect on the date of=0A= publication of this document. Please review these documents=0A= carefully, as they describe your rights and restrictions with respect=0A= to this document. Code Components extracted from this document must=0A= include Simplified BSD License text as described in Section 4.e of=0A= the Trust Legal Provisions and are provided without warranty as=0A= described in the Simplified BSD License.=0A= =0A= Table of Contents=0A= =0A= 1. Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3=0A= 2. Requirements Language . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3=0A= 3. Definitions and Acronyms . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4=0A= 4. Definition of Digital Twin Network . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4=0A= 5. Benefits of Digital Twin Network . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6=0A= 5.1. Lower the Cost of Network Optimization . . . . . . . . . 7=0A= 5.2. Optimized Decision Making . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7=0A= 5.3. Safer Assessment of Innovative Network Capabilities . . . 7=0A= 5.4. Privacy and Regulatory Compliance . . . . . . . . . . . . 8=0A= 5.5. Customize Network Operation Training . . . . . . . . . . 8=0A= 6. Reference Architecture of Digital Twin Network . . . . . . . 8=0A= 7. Challenges to build Digital Twin Network . . . . . . . . . . 11=0A= 8. Interaction with IBN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12=0A= 9. Application Scenarios . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12=0A= 9.1. Human Training . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12=0A= 9.2. ML Training . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13=0A= 9.3. DevOps-oriented certification . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13=0A= 9.4. Network fuzzing . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13=0A= 10. Summary . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14=0A= 11. Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14=0A= 12. Acknowledgements . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14=0A= 13. IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14=0A= 14. Open issues . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15=0A= 15. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15=0A= 15.1. Normative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15=0A= 15.2. Informative References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15=0A= Appendix A. Change Logs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15=0A= Authors' Addresses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 2]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= 1. Introduction=0A= =0A= With the advent of technologies such as 5G, Industrial Internet of=0A= Things, Edge Computing, and Artificial Intelligence, the ICT=0A= (Information and Communications Technology) and other vertical=0A= industries such as smart cities or smart manufacturers are=0A= transformed dramatically through replacing what is used to be manual=0A= processes with digital processes.=0A= =0A= With the fast growing of the network scale and the increased demand=0A= placed on the network, accommodating and adapting dynamically to=0A= customer needs becomes a big challenge to network operators. Indeed,=0A= network operation and maintenance are becoming more complex due to=0A= higher complexity of the managed networks. As such, providing=0A= innovations on network will be more and more difficult due to the=0A= high risk of interfering with existing services and higher trial cost=0A= if no reliable emulation platforms are available.=0A= =0A= Digital Twin is the real-time representation of physical entities in=0A= the digital world. It has the characteristics of virtual-reality=0A= interrelation and real-time interaction, iterative operation and=0A= process optimization, as well as full life-cycle, and full business=0A= data-driven. So far, it has been successfully applied in the fields=0A= of intelligent manufacturing, smart city, or complex system operation=0A= and maintenance [Tao2019] to help with not only object design and=0A= testing, but also operation and maintenance.=0A= =0A= A digital twin network platform can be built by applying Digital Twin=0A= technology to networks and creating a virtual image of physical=0A= network facilities (emulation). Through the real-time data=0A= interaction between the physical network and its twin network, the=0A= digital twin network platform might help the network designers to=0A= achieve more simplification, automatic, resilient, and full life-=0A= cycle operation and maintenance. Having an emulation platform that=0A= allows to reliably represent the state of a network is more reliable=0A= than a simulation platform. The emulated platform can thus be used=0A= to assess specific behaviors before actual implementation in the=0A= physical network, tweak the network for better optimized behavior,=0A= run 'what-if' scenarios that can't be tested and evaluated easily in=0A= the physical network. Service impact analysis tasks will also be=0A= facilitated.=0A= =0A= 2. Requirements Language=0A= =0A= The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",=0A= "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and=0A= "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 3]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= 14 [RFC2119][RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all=0A= capitals, as shown here.=0A= =0A= 3. Definitions and Acronyms=0A= =0A= PLM: Product Lifecycle Management=0A= =0A= IBN: Intent-Based Networking=0A= =0A= AI: Artificial Intelligence=0A= =0A= ML: Machine Learning=0A= =0A= OAM: Operations, Administration, and Maintenance=0A= =0A= CI/CD: Continuous Integration / Continuous Delivery=0A= =0A= 4. Definition of Digital Twin Network=0A= =0A= The concept of a virtual equivalent to a physical product or the=0A= digital twin was first introduced in the Product Lifecycle Management=0A= (PLM) course in 2003 by Scholar Michael Grieves [Grieves2014]. It=0A= has been widely acknowledged in both industry and academic=0A= publications. However, there is no standard definition of "digital=0A= twin network" within the networking industry or SDOs. This document=0A= defines digital twin network as a virtual representation of the=0A= physical network. Such virtual representation of the network is=0A= meant to be used to analyze, diagnose, emulate, and then control the=0A= physical network based on data, model and interface. To that aim, a=0A= real-time and interactive mapping is required between the physical=0A= network and its virtual twin network.=0A= =0A= As shown in Figure 1, the digital twin network involve four key=0A= technology elements: data, mapping, models, and interfaces=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 4]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= +-------------+ +--------------+=0A= | | | |=0A= | Mapping | | Interface |=0A= | | | |=0A= +-------------+-----------------+--------------+=0A= | |=0A= | Analyze, Diagnose |=0A= | |=0A= | +----------------------+ |=0A= | | NETWORK DIGITAL TWIN | |=0A= | +----------------------+ |=0A= +------------+ +------------+=0A= | | Emulate, Control | |=0A= | Models | | Data |=0A= | |------------------------| |=0A= +------------+ +------------+=0A= =0A= Figure 1: Key Elements of Digital Twin Network=0A= =0A= Data: A digital twin network should maintain historical data and/or=0A= real time data (configuration data, operational state data,=0A= topology data, trace data, metric data, process data, etc.) about=0A= its real-world twin (i.e., physical network) that are required by=0A= the models to represent and understand the states and behaviors of=0A= the real-world twin. The data is characterized as the single=0A= source of the "truth" and populated in the data repository, which=0A= provides timely and accurate data service support for building=0A= various models..=0A= =0A= Models: Techniques that involve collecting data from one or more=0A= sources in the real-world twin and developing a comprehensive=0A= representation of the data (e.g., system, entity, process) using=0A= specific models. It is used as emulation and diagnosis basis to=0A= provides dynamics and elements on how live physical network=0A= operates and develop reasoning data utilized for decision-making.=0A= Various models such as service models, data models, dataset=0A= models, or knowledge graph can be used to represent the physical=0A= network assets and then instantiated to serve various network=0A= applications.=0A= =0A= Interfaces: Standardized interfaces can ensure the compatibility of=0A= digital twin network. There are two major types of interface: (1)=0A= the interface between the digital twin network platform and the=0A= physical network infrastructure and (2) the interface between=0A= digital twin network platform and applications. The former=0A= provides real time data collection and control on the physical=0A= network; the latter helps deliver application requirements to=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 5]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= digital twin network platform and exposure the various abilities=0A= to applications.=0A= =0A= Mapping: Is used to identify the digital twin and the underlying=0A= entities and establish a real-time interactive mapping between the=0A= physical network and the twin network or between two twin=0A= networks. The mapping can be:=0A= =0A= * One to one (pairing, vertical): Synchronize between a physical=0A= network and its virtual twin network with continuous flow.=0A= =0A= * One to many (coupling, horizontal): Synchronize among virtual=0A= twin networks with occasional data exchange.=0A= =0A= Such mapping provides a good visibility of actual status which=0A= makes it more convenient to analyze and understand what is going=0A= on in the physical network. It also allows using the digital twin=0A= to optimize the performance and maintenance of the physical=0A= network.=0A= =0A= The digital twin network constructed based on the four core=0A= technology elements can analyze, diagnose, emulate, and control the=0A= physical network in the whole life cycle with the help of=0A= optimization algorithms, management methods, and expert knowledge.=0A= One of the objectives of such control is to master the digital twin=0A= network environment and its elements to derive the required system=0A= behavior, e.g., provide:=0A= =0A= o repeatability: that is the capacity to replicate network=0A= conditions on-demand.=0A= =0A= o reproducibility: i.e., the ability to replay successions of=0A= events, possibly under controlled variations.=0A= =0A= 5. Benefits of Digital Twin Network=0A= =0A= Digital twin network can help enable closed-loop network management=0A= across the entire lifecycle, from deployment and emulation, to=0A= visualized assessment, physical deployment, and continuous=0A= verification. In doing so, network operators (and end-users to some=0A= extent) can get a global, systemic, and consistent view of the=0A= network. Also, network operators can safely exercise the enforcement=0A= of network planning policies, deployment procedures, etc., without=0A= jeopardizing the daily operation of the physical network.=0A= =0A= The benefits of digital twin network can be classified into: low cost=0A= of network optimization, optimized and safer decision-making, safer=0A= testing of innovative network capabilities (including "what if"=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 6]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= scenarios), privacy and regulatory compliance, and customize network=0A= operation training. The following subsections further elaborate on=0A= such benefits.=0A= =0A= 5.1. Lower the Cost of Network Optimization=0A= =0A= Large scale networks are complex to operate. Since there is no=0A= effective platform for simulation, network optimization designs have=0A= to be tested on the physical network at the cost of jeopardizing its=0A= daily operation and possibly degrading the quality of the services=0A= supported by the network. Such assessment greatly increases network=0A= operator's Operational Expenditure (OPEX) budgets too.=0A= =0A= With a digital twin network platform, network operators can safely=0A= emulate candidate optimization solutions before deploying them in the=0A= physical network. In addition, the operator's OPEX on the real=0A= physical network deployment will be greatly decreased accordingly at=0A= the cost of the complexity of the assessment and the resources=0A= involved.=0A= =0A= 5.2. Optimized Decision Making=0A= =0A= Traditional network operation and management mainly focus on=0A= deploying and managing running services, but hardly support=0A= predictive maintenance techniques.=0A= =0A= Digital twin network can combine data acquisition, big data=0A= processing, and AI modeling to assess the status of the network, but=0A= also to predict future trends, and better organize predictive=0A= maintenance. The ability to reproduce network behaviors under=0A= various conditions facilitates the corresponding assessment of the=0A= various evolution options as often as required.=0A= =0A= 5.3. Safer Assessment of Innovative Network Capabilities=0A= =0A= Testing a new feature in an operational network is not only complex,=0A= it is also extremely risky.=0A= =0A= As mentioned above, digital twin network can greatly help assessing=0A= innovative network capabilities without jeopardizing the daily=0A= operation of the physical network. In addition, it also helps=0A= researchers to explore network innovation (e.g., new network=0A= protocols, network AI/ML applications) efficiently, and network=0A= operators to deploy new technologies quickly with lower risks. Take=0A= AI/ ML application as example, it is a conflict between the=0A= continuous high reliability requirement (i.e., 99.999%) of network=0A= and the slow learning speed or phase-in learning steps of AI/ML=0A= algorithms. With digital twin network platform, AI/ML can complete=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 7]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= the learning and training with the sufficient data before deploying=0A= the model in the real network. This will greatly encourage more=0A= network AI innovations in future networks.=0A= =0A= 5.4. Privacy and Regulatory Compliance=0A= =0A= The requirements on data confidentiality and privacy on network=0A= providers increase the complexity of network management, as decisions=0A= made by computation logics such as an SDN controller may rely upon=0A= the payloads content. As a result, the improvement of data-driven=0A= management requires complementary techniques that can provide a=0A= strict control based upon security mechanisms to guarantee data=0A= privacy protection and regulatory compliance. Some examples of these=0A= techniques include payload inspection, including decryption with user=0A= explicit consents, or data anonymization mechanisms.=0A= =0A= Given digital twin network operation assumes the mapping between real=0A= traffic or services and the traffic used by the digital twin network=0A= for assessment purposes in particular, the need for privacy is of the=0A= utmost importance. The lack of personal data permits to lower the=0A= privacy requirements and simplifies the use of privacy-preserving=0A= techniques.=0A= =0A= 5.5. Customize Network Operation Training=0A= =0A= Network architectures can be complex, and their operation requires=0A= expert personnel. Digital twin network offers an opportunity to=0A= train staff for customized networks and specific user needs. Two=0A= salient examples are the application of new network architectures and=0A= protocols or the use of cyber-ranges to train security experts in the=0A= threat detection and mitigation.=0A= =0A= 6. Reference Architecture of Digital Twin Network=0A= =0A= Based on the definition of the key digital twin network technology=0A= elements introduced in Section 4, a digital twin network architecture=0A= is depicted in Figure 2. The digital twin network architecture is=0A= broken down into three layers: Application Layer, Network Digital=0A= Twin Layer and Physical Network Layer.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 8]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= +---------------------------------------------------------+=0A= | +-------+ +-------+ +-------+ |=0A= | | App 1 | | App 2 | ... | App n | Application|=0A= | +-------+ +-------+ +-------+ |=0A= +-------------^-------------------+-----------------------+=0A= |Capability Exposure|intent input=0A= | |=0A= +---------------------------------v-----------------------+=0A= | Network Digital Twin|=0A= | +--------+ +------------------------+ +--------+ |=0A= | | | | Service Mapping Models | | | |=0A= | | | | +------------------+ | | | |=0A= | | Data +---> |Functional Models | +---> Digital| |=0A= | | Repo- | | +-----+-----^------+ | | Twin | |=0A= | | sitory | | | | | | Entity | |=0A= | | | | +-----v-----+------+ | | Mgmt | |=0A= | | <---+ | Basic Models | <---+ | |=0A= | | | | +------------------+ | | | |=0A= | +--------+ +------------------------+ +--------+ |=0A= +--------^------------------------------------------------+=0A= | |=0A= | data collection | control=0A= +-------------------------------------v-------------------+=0A= | Physical Network |=0A= | |=0A= +---------------------------------------------------------+=0A= =0A= Figure 2: Reference Architecture of Digital Twin Network=0A= =0A= 1. The lowest layer is the Physical Network. (All) network elements=0A= in the physical network exchange massive network data and control=0A= with network digital twin entity, through twin southbound=0A= interfaces. As the physical object of the network twin, the=0A= physical network can be a mobile access network, a transport=0A= network, a mobile core, a backbone, etc. The network can also be=0A= a data center network, a campus enterprise network, an industrial=0A= Internet of Things, etc. The network can span across a single=0A= network domain or multiple network domains.=0A= =0A= 2. The Intermediate layer is the Network Digital Twin. This layer=0A= includes three key subsystems: Data Repository subsystem, Service=0A= Mapping Models subsystem, and Digital Twin Entity Management=0A= subsystem.=0A= =0A= * Data Repository subsystem is responsible for collecting and=0A= storing various network data for building various models by=0A= collecting and updating the real-time operational data of=0A= various network elements through the twin southbound=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 9]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= interface, and providing data services (e.g., fast retrieval,=0A= concurrent conflict, batch service) and unified interfaces to=0A= Service Mapping Models subsystem.=0A= =0A= * Service Mapping Models complete data modeling, provides data=0A= model instances for various network applications, and=0A= maximizes the agility and programmability of network services.=0A= The data models include two major types: basic and functional=0A= models.=0A= =0A= + Basic models refer to the network element model and network=0A= topology model of the network digital twin based on the=0A= basic configuration, environment information, operational=0A= state, link topology and other information of the network=0A= element, to complete the real-time accurate=0A= characterization of the physical network.=0A= =0A= + Functional models refer to various data models such as=0A= network analysis, simulation, diagnosis, prediction,=0A= assurance, etc. The functional models can be constructed=0A= and expanded by multiple dimensions: by network type, there=0A= can be models serving for a single or multiple network=0A= domains; by function type, it can be divided into state=0A= monitoring, traffic analysis, security exercise, fault=0A= diagnosis, quality assurance and other models; by network=0A= lifecycle management, it can be divided into planning,=0A= construction, maintenance, optimization and operation. it=0A= can also be divided into general model and special-purpose=0A= model. Specifically, multiple dimensions can be combined=0A= to create a data model for more specific application=0A= scenarios.=0A= =0A= * Digital Twin Entity Management completes the management=0A= function of digital twin network, records the life-cycle of=0A= the entity, visualizes and controls various elements of the=0A= network digital twin, including topology management, model=0A= management and security management.=0A= =0A= 3. Top layer is Application Layer. Various applications (e.g., OAM,=0A= IBN) can effectively run over a digital twin network platform to=0A= implement either conventional or innovative network operations,=0A= with low cost and less service impact on real networks. Network=0A= applications raise requirements that need to be addressed by the=0A= digital twin network. Such requirements are exchanged through a=0A= northbound interface; then the service is emulated by various=0A= twin service instances. Once checked, the changes can be safely=0A= deployed in the physical network.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 10]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= 7. Challenges to build Digital Twin Network=0A= =0A= As mentioned in the above section, digital twin networks can bring=0A= many benefits to network management as well as facilitate the=0A= introduction of innovative network capabilities. However, building=0A= an effective and efficient digital twin network system remains a=0A= challenge. The following is a list of the major challenges:=0A= =0A= o Large scale challenge: The digital twin of large-scale networks=0A= will significantly increase the complexity of data acquisition and=0A= storage, the design and implementation of models. And the=0A= requirements of software and hardware of the system will be even=0A= more constraining.=0A= =0A= o Interoperability: It is difficult to establish a unified digital=0A= twin platform with a unified data model in the whole network=0A= domain due to the inconsistency of technical implementations and=0A= the heterogeneity of vendor technologies.=0A= =0A= o Data modeling difficulties: Based on large-scale network data,=0A= data modeling should not only focus on ensuring the accuracy of=0A= model functions, but also need to consider the flexibility and=0A= scalability of the model. Balancing these requirements further=0A= increase the complexity of building efficient and hierarchical=0A= functional data models.=0A= =0A= o Real-time requirement: For services with real-time requirements,=0A= the processing of model simulation and verification through a=0A= digital twin network will increase the service delay, so the=0A= function and process of the data model need to be based on=0A= automated processing mechanism under various network application=0A= scenarios; at the same time, the real-time requirements will=0A= further increase performance requirements on the system software=0A= and hardware.=0A= =0A= o Security risks: the digital twin network synchronizes all the data=0A= of physical networks in real time, which inevitably augments the=0A= attack surface, with a higher risk of information leakage, in=0A= particular.=0A= =0A= To address these challenges, the digital twin network needs=0A= continuous optimization and breakthrough on key enabling technologies=0A= including data acquisition, data storage, data modeling, network=0A= visualization, interface standardization, and security assurance, so=0A= as to meet the requirements of compatibility, reliability, real-time=0A= and security.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 11]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= 8. Interaction with IBN=0A= =0A= Implementing Intent-Based Networking (IBN) is an innovative=0A= technology for life-cycle network management. Future network will be=0A= possibly Intent-based, which means that users can input their=0A= abstract 'intent' to the network, instead of detailed policies or=0A= configurations on the network devices.=0A= [I-D.irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions] clarifies the concept of=0A= "Intent" and provides an overview of IBN functionalities. The key=0A= characteristic of an IBN system is that user's intent can be assured=0A= automatically via continuously adjusting the policies and validating=0A= the real-time situation.=0A= =0A= IBN can envisaged in a digital twin network context to show how=0A= digital twin network improves the efficiency of deploying network=0A= innovation. To lower the impact on real networks, several rounds of=0A= adjustment and validation can be emulated on the digital twin network=0A= platform instead of directly on physical network. Therefore, digital=0A= twin network can be an important enabler platform to implement IBN=0A= system and speed up the deployment of IBN in customer's network.=0A= =0A= 9. Application Scenarios=0A= =0A= Digital twin network can be applied to solve different problems in=0A= network management and operation.=0A= =0A= 9.1. Human Training=0A= =0A= The usual approach to network Operations, Administration, and=0A= Maintenance (OAM) with procedures applied by humans is open to errors=0A= in all these procedures, with impact in network availability and=0A= resilience. Response procedures and actions for most relevant=0A= operational requests and incidents are commonly defined to reduce=0A= errors to a minimum. The progressive automation of these procedures,=0A= such as predictive control or closed loop management, reduce the=0A= faults and response time, but still there is the need of a human-in-=0A= the-loop for multiples actions. These processes are not intuitive=0A= and require training to learn how to respond.=0A= =0A= The use of digital twin network for this purpose in different network=0A= management activities will improve the operators performance. One=0A= common example is cybersecurity incident handling, where cyber-range=0A= exercises are executed periodically to train security practitioners.=0A= Digital twin network will offer realistic environments, fitted to the=0A= real production networks.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 12]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= 9.2. ML Training=0A= =0A= Machine Learning requires data and their context to be available in=0A= order to apply it. A common approach in the network management=0A= environment has been to simulate or import data in a specific=0A= environment (the ML developer lab), where they are used to train the=0A= selected model, while later, when the model is deployed in=0A= production, re-train or adjust to the production environment context.=0A= This demands a specific adaption period.=0A= =0A= Digital twin network simplifies the complete ML lifecycle development=0A= by providing a realistic environment, including network topologies,=0A= to generate the data required in a well-aligned context. Dataset=0A= generated belongs to the digital twin network and not to the=0A= production network, allowing information access by third parties,=0A= without impacting data privacy.=0A= =0A= 9.3. DevOps-oriented certification=0A= =0A= The potential application of CI/CD models network management=0A= operations increases the risk associated to deployment of non-=0A= validated updates, what conflicts with the goal of the certification=0A= requirements applied by network service providers. A solution for=0A= addressing these certification requirements is to verify the specific=0A= impacts of updates on service assurance and SLAs using a digital twin=0A= network environment replicating the network particularities, as a=0A= previous step to production release.=0A= =0A= Digital twin network control functional block supports such dynamic=0A= mechanisms required by DevOps procedures.=0A= =0A= 9.4. Network fuzzing=0A= =0A= Network management dependency on programmability increases systems=0A= complexity. The behavior of new protocol stacks, API parameters, and=0A= interactions among complex software components are examples that=0A= imply higher risk to errors or vulnerabilities in software and=0A= configuration.=0A= =0A= Digital twin network allows to apply fuzzing testing techniques on a=0A= twin network environment, with interactions and conditions similar to=0A= the production network, permitting to identify and solve=0A= vulnerabilities, bugs and zero-days attacks before production=0A= delivery.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 13]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= 10. Summary=0A= =0A= Research on digital twin network has just started. This document=0A= presents an overview of the digital twin network concepts. Looking=0A= forward, further elaboration on digital twin network scenarios,=0A= requirements, architecture, and key enabling technologies should be=0A= promoted by the industry, so as to accelerate the implementation and=0A= deployment of digital twin network.=0A= =0A= 11. Security Considerations=0A= =0A= This document describes concepts and definitions of digital twin=0A= network. As such, the below security considerations remain high=0A= level, i.e., in the form of principles, guidelines or requirements.=0A= =0A= Security considerations of the digital twin network include:=0A= =0A= o Secure the digital twin system itself.=0A= =0A= o Data privacy protection.=0A= =0A= Securing the digital twin network system aims at making the digital=0A= twin system operationally secure by implementing security mechanisms=0A= and applying security best practices. In the context of digital twin=0A= network, such mechanisms and practices may consist in data=0A= verification and model validation, mapping operations between=0A= physical network and digital counterpart network by authenticated and=0A= authorized users only.=0A= =0A= Synchronizing the data between the physical and the digital twin=0A= networks may increase the risk of sensitive data and information=0A= leakage. Strict control and security mechanisms must be provided and=0A= enabled to prevent data leaks.=0A= =0A= 12. Acknowledgements=0A= =0A= Diego Lopez and Antonio Pastor were partly supported by the European=0A= Commission under Horizon 2020 grant agreement no. 833685 (SPIDER),=0A= and grant agreement no. 871808 (INSPIRE-5Gplus).=0A= =0A= 13. IANA Considerations=0A= =0A= This document has no requests to IANA.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 14]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= 14. Open issues=0A= =0A= o Investigate related digital twin network work and identify the=0A= differences and commonality, e.g., How is this concept and=0A= architecture different from digital twin for industry application?=0A= How can existing network management models be re-used?=0A= =0A= 15. References=0A= =0A= 15.1. Normative References=0A= =0A= [RFC2119] Bradner, S., "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate=0A= Requirement Levels", BCP 14, RFC 2119,=0A= DOI 10.17487/RFC2119, March 1997,=0A= .=0A= =0A= [RFC8174] Leiba, B., "Ambiguity of Uppercase vs Lowercase in RFC=0A= 2119 Key Words", BCP 14, RFC 8174, DOI 10.17487/RFC8174,=0A= May 2017, .=0A= =0A= 15.2. Informative References=0A= =0A= [Grieves2014]=0A= Grieves, M., "Digital twin: Manufacturing excellence=0A= through virtual factory replication", 2003.=0A= =0A= [I-D.irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions]=0A= Clemm, A., Ciavaglia, L., Granville, L. Z., and J.=0A= Tantsura, "Intent-Based Networking - Concepts and=0A= Definitions", draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions-03=0A= (work in progress), February 2021.=0A= =0A= [Tao2019] Tao, F., Zhang, H., Liu, A., and A. Nee, "Digital Twin in=0A= Industry: State-of-the-Art. IEEE Transactions on=0A= Industrial Informatics, vol. 15, no. 4.", April 2019.=0A= =0A= Appendix A. Change Logs=0A= =0A= v03 - v04=0A= =0A= o Change the I-D title from "Concepts of Digital Twin Network" to=0A= "Digital Twin Network: Concepts and Reference Architecture".=0A= =0A= o Update data definition and models definitions to clarify their=0A= difference.=0A= =0A= o Remove the orchestration element and consolidated into control=0A= functionality building block in the digital twin network.=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 15]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= o Clarify the mapping relation (one to one, and one to many) in the=0A= mapping definition.=0A= =0A= o Add explanation text for continuous verification.=0A= =0A= v02 - v03=0A= =0A= o Split interaction with IBN part as a separate section.=0A= =0A= o Fill security section;=0A= =0A= o Clarify the motivation in the introduction section;=0A= =0A= o Use new boilerplate for requirements language section;=0A= =0A= o Key elements definition update.=0A= =0A= o Other editorial changes.=0A= =0A= o Add open issues section.=0A= =0A= o Add section on application scenarios.=0A= =0A= Authors' Addresses=0A= =0A= Cheng Zhou=0A= China Mobile=0A= Beijing 100053=0A= China=0A= =0A= Email: zhouchengyjy@chinamobile.com=0A= =0A= =0A= Hongwei Yang=0A= China Mobile=0A= Beijing 100053=0A= China=0A= =0A= Email: yanghongwei@chinamobile.com=0A= =0A= =0A= Xiaodong Duan=0A= China Mobile=0A= Beijing 100053=0A= China=0A= =0A= Email: duanxiaodong@chinamobile.com=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 16]=0A= =0C=0A= Internet-Draft Digital Twin Network Concept July 2021=0A= =0A= =0A= Diego Lopez=0A= Telefonica I+D=0A= Seville=0A= Spain=0A= =0A= Email: diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com=0A= =0A= =0A= Antonio Pastor=0A= Telefonica I+D=0A= Madrid=0A= Spain=0A= =0A= Email: antonio.pastorperales@telefonica.com=0A= =0A= =0A= Qin Wu=0A= Huawei=0A= 101 Software Avenue, Yuhua District=0A= Nanjing, Jiangsu 210012=0A= China=0A= =0A= Email: bill.wu@huawei.com=0A= =0A= =0A= Mohamed Boucadair=0A= Orange=0A= Rennes 35000=0A= France=0A= =0A= Email: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com=0A= =0A= =0A= Christian Jacquenet=0A= Orange=0A= Rennes 35000=0A= France=0A= =0A= Email: christian.jacquenet@orange.com=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= Zhou, et al. Expires January 8, 2022 [Page 17]=0A= ------=_NextPart_000_02A4_01D773ED.5BBAA140-- From nobody Fri Jul 9 02:00:24 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598E63A192D; Fri, 9 Jul 2021 02:00:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.296 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.296 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.198, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=nict.go.jp Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AeBJgtABlDni; Fri, 9 Jul 2021 02:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mo-csw.securemx.jp (mo-csw1516.securemx.jp [210.130.202.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D05C63A1929; Fri, 9 Jul 2021 02:00:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=nict.go.jp; h=Date:From:To: Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To;i= pedro@nict.go.jp; s=20200225.smx; t=1625821208; x=1627030808; bh=6d4Fw/gTSQ+Lilog xyJYQSiAR6MI2Hg1CZbt2p2AXqw=; b=b7nfuKFoOVCBQuePYUQSAHzm891Wo5vFWhLo+KT6V9z6nJ +cIDHFbwr0yj9AVjoueFQbE8Q3PI9bwb/yEre5UgxJlpdzucgfAl0ifbaUqi7L7nat1/iqyCM4z15 vnI2yRNvcWYEBfSc3PoCLVfU3wRf918ZxM1TzDU+W8bUpKOr7yo0NaAu4u5n927xRYCiRgWSkgLMi cCzaR8lSX1Rn/zVKkLoZdgkBbCPcSLMvbEGssIpwplHMl8fLIDUHJjsWAslAaHEeWdr40JROJpcMu kEww8l7hbtf5XG5JbVksJTsI4XDXtPrSosxQ7tvyyllAxExjg8D7Ww59kRCY8uREQ==; Received: by mo-csw.securemx.jp (mx-mo-csw1516) id 1699075m013526; Fri, 9 Jul 2021 18:00:07 +0900 X-Iguazu-Qid: 34tMQV1tQnVk8dB2iy X-Iguazu-QSIG: v=2; s=0; t=1625821207; q=34tMQV1tQnVk8dB2iy; m=CvtOK4G5dxf6Bt0v6c7gF4Xr62NhqYm+gOdrNVq3UWU= Received: from mail2.nict.go.jp (mail2.nict.go.jp [133.243.18.15]) by relay.securemx.jp (mx-mr1512) id 169905dY026930 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 9 Jul 2021 18:00:05 +0900 Received: from spectre (ssh1.nict.go.jp [133.243.3.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail2.nict.go.jp (NICT Mail Spool Server2) with ESMTPSA id 6E8F039303; Fri, 9 Jul 2021 18:00:05 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 18:00:02 +0900 From: Pedro Martinez-Julia To: Cheng Zhou Cc: nmrg@irtf.org, draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts@ietf.org, nmrg-chairs@irtf.org Message-ID: References: <02a301d773aa$4d976140$e8c623c0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <02a301d773aa$4d976140$e8c623c0$@com> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [nmrg] Call for comments on new version of I-D: draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts-04.txt X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2021 09:00:22 -0000 On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 11:35:30AM +0800, Cheng Zhou wrote: > Hello, experts in NMRG, > > We just submitted a new version of I-D draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts-04.txt. > The main changed in the version are listed as below. > 1) Changed the I-D title from "Concepts of Digital Twin Network" to "Digital Twin Network: Concepts and Reference Architecture". > 2) Update data definition and models definitions to clarify their difference. > 3) Remove the orchestration element and consolidated into control functionality building block in the digital twin network. > 4) Clarify the mapping relation (one to one, and one to many) in the mapping definition. > 5) Add explanation text for continuous verification. > > We would appreciate any thoughts or comments on this I-D from the group. Dear Cheng, The overall proposal in this I-D is an enlarged version of a typical closed-cycle autonomic network management architecture. It has been enlarged by instantiating a simulator together with the model building and other elements of the analysis stage and knowledge base. Moreover, it has increased requirements for input data, so that both models and simulators have a more realistic view of the network. Because of this I find the document lacks a mapping of the reference architecture and the typical network management architecture, both abstract, in terms of, for instance, MAPE loop, as well as an implementation, as Open Source MANO. > Thanks and Best Regards, > Cheng Zhou (on behalf of co-authors) Regards, Pedro -- Pedro Martinez-Julia Network Architecture Laboratory, Network Research Institute National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT) 4-2-1, Nukui-Kitamachi, Koganei, Tokyo 184-8795, Japan Email: pedro@nict.go.jp --------------------------------------------------------- *** Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem *** From nobody Sat Jul 10 06:57:51 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A9F3A1D31 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 06:57:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.888 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.888 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1lIfy5j28zdN for ; 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Wed, 14 Jul 2021 11:13:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.30.2.113] (nat-cataldo.sssup.it [193.205.81.5]) by mail.cnit.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1136C3FDE6 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 11:13:16 +0200 (CEST) To: nmrg@irtf.org From: Barbara Martini Message-ID: <3f484df0-bab8-9d34-95be-2a88814a390f@cnit.it> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 11:13:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: it Archived-At: Subject: [nmrg] [NoF 2021] Last days to submit Call for Demos - Deadline: July 19, 2021 X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 09:13:30 -0000 Apologies for cross-posting ********************************************************************************                                  Call for Demos                                     NoF 2021            The 12th International Conference on Network of the Future                      October 6-8, 2021 – Coimbra, Portugal                                   Hybrid event http://nof2021.dnac.org ******************************************************************************** - NoF 2021 is technically co-sponsored by IEEE, IEEE ComSoc. - All accepted & presented demo papers will be submitted to IEEE Xplore. *** Paper submission deadline: July 19, 2021 *** The  12th  International Conference on  Network of the Future (NoF) is  inviting authors to submit original contributions  in the area of Future Internet design, with emphasis on enabling and cutting-edge technologies from the perspectives of specification,  design and  analysis related to  network of future architecture, applications, services,  management, scalability, standardization, business and legal aspects, just to name a few. NoF 2021 Demo Sessions aims at offering  a venue for the latest breakthroughs in the topics of interest of NoF 2021  to be presented live and discussed with the audience.  Demos ranging from working prototypes, novel applications and ground- breaking ideas to live experiments in the areas shaping future networks are wel- come. We also encourage demos from industrial researchers. The  conference  aims  at  providing  a  forum  for  researchers, students, and professionals  to  exchange ideas,  share  their experiences,  and discuss their research results  around a single-track  of technical sessions and a series  of keynote speeches. NoF 2021 will take place at the University of Coimbra in Portugal. The  conference  will  be  designed  and prepared  as a  hybrid event  allowing registrants the choice to participate either virtually or in-person. In the case of perduring traveling restrictions (official or de facto) during the conference dates due  to the COVID-19 pandemic, we will  be ready to convert the conference to a fully on-line event. *** Topics of interest *** The topics of interest include, but are not limited to: Networks   * 5G/6G networks   * Virtual networks   * Overlay networks   * Wireless networks and cellular networks   * Wireless sensor networks   * Access, metro, backbone and core networks   * Vehicular ad hoc networks and intelligent transportation systems   * Mesh and ad hoc networks   * Internet of Things networks   * Information-centric networks   * Enterprise networks and campus networks   * Time-sensitive networks   * Data center networks   * Optical networks   * IP networks   * Home networks   * SCADA networks and distributed control systems   * Smart Cities and Smart Grids   * Resilient networks Enablers   * Quality of service and traffic engineering   * Network Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning and Reasoning   * Network Data Analytics, Anomaly Detection, Feature Extraction   * Network automation and orchestration   * Autonomic, Cognitive and Intent-based Networking   * 5G/6G Network Architecture, Services and Protocols   * 5G/6G Control and Management Architecture   * 5G/6G Functional Decomposition and Composition   * Advanced 5G Infrastructure Slicing and Radio Slicing   * Scalability and multi-tenancy in 5G/6G   * Network Programmability and Softwarization   * Protocols for Ultra-Low Latency and Ultra-High Reliability   * Fog, Edge and Multi-Access Computing   * Software Defined Networking (SDN) and High Availability   * Network Function Virtualization (NFV) and Orchestration   * Service Function Chaining and Virtual Network Embedding   * Big data and Fast Data Processing and Management   * CDN Architectures and Network Cache Allocation Schemes   * Advanced multimedia and real-time communications   * Performance, Optimization and Resource Dimensioning   * Security, Trust and Privacy   * Use of Blockchains in Networking and Servicing *** Submission guidelines *** Prospective authors are invited  to submit Demo proposals in the form of a 3-page paper in  IEEE conference  double-column format, preferably incorporating a demo system architecture illustration. The proposal should also include:   * a motivation of the demo;   * a clear statement of what will be demonstrated,  key networking concepts that     are involved and the specific contribution with respect to related work;   * what  NoF 2021 attendees  will experience  during the demonstration, possibly     with visual outcomes to highlight the interest of the demo;   * relevant references,  in particular if  the demo is related to a paper being     sub-mitted in the main conference;   * the demo setup and technical requirements. Authors are also encouraged to optionally include  in the paper submission a link that opens a quite short (1-3 min) video illustrating the demo and its scope. Demo papers must be submitted  electronically through EDAS in  PDF format only at https://edas.info/N28072 For specific details  about submission format and procedure, please check: https://nof2021.dnac.org/call-for-papers/ Demo papers will be peer-reviewed and accepted proposals will be included in the conference proceedings  provided to NoF 2021  attendees and will be subsequently submitted to IEEE Xplore. At least one author of each accepted demo proposal is required to register to NoF 2021 conference and present the demo at the scheduled demo session. *** Important dates *** - Paper submission deadline: July 19, 2021 - Paper acceptance notification: July 30, 2021 - Camera-ready Papers:  August 30, 2021 *** Demo Co-Chairs *** - Federica Paganelli  (federica.paganelli@unipi.it, University of Pisa, Italy) - Paulo Simoes (psimoes@dei.uc.pt, University of Coimbra, Portugal) From nobody Thu Jul 15 02:21:12 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11693A23FA for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:21:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M9fSHfe1rUHS for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z-proxy-01.utt.fr (z-proxy-01.utt.fr [193.50.230.154]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 341863A23F9 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by z-proxy-01.utt.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FFD60EC2 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 11:21:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from z-proxy-01.utt.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z-proxy-01.utt.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id vL5j5rzwokAs for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 11:21:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by z-proxy-01.utt.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AF560C79 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 11:21:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at z-proxy-01.utt.fr Received: from z-proxy-01.utt.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z-proxy-01.utt.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 7Bg_s5mC9Al9 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 11:21:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.39] (58.49.207.77.rev.sfr.net [77.207.49.58]) by z-proxy-01.utt.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A00260CC4 for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 11:21:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Guillaume Doyen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.21\)) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 11:20:59 +0200 To: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.21) Archived-At: Subject: [nmrg] [Call for Papers] 3rd International Workshop on High-Precision, Predictable, and Low-Latency Networking (HiPNet 2021) X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 09:21:11 -0000 We apologize for multiples copies. Please circulate this CFP among your colleagues and students. ********************************************************************** 3rd International Workshop on High-Precision, Predictable, =20 and Low-Latency Networking (HiPNet 2021) at CNSM 2021, Izmir, Turkey, 25-29 October http://www.cnsm-conf.org/2021/workshop_HiPNet.html ********************************************************************** Call for Papers New waves of networked applications continue to push the limits of what is possible with networks today. For example, Industrial Internet applications, Augmented Reality, Tactile Internet require ultra-low latency measured in single-digit milliseconds and do not tolerate no jitter at all. Economic pressures mandate increasingly cloudification of real-time applications with precision service level needs. Many of those applications are mission-critical and cannot afford any loss in connectivity or even single packets. Collectively, these applications require networking services that support high-precision and predictable service levels with associated guarantees that border on determinism. This requires a rethinking of many of the principles underlying existing "Best Effort" internetworking technology. Various approaches are emerging to tackle those challenges. Data centers with fixed topologies and a constant number of hops rapidly replace conventional routing and more general Internet topologies. Networks are becoming more programmable to allow to custom-tailor and optimize treatment of packets and flows. Related technologies range from Service Function Chaining to Network Slicing to SDN. While 5G is making URLLC at the network edge a reality, momentum for Beyond 5G and 6G is building to push the boundaries of precision services beyond the edge and across the core. One overarching question concerns how these technologies can be harnessed and what additional approaches are needed to deliver on high-precision and predictable networking. This will involve advances over all planes of network architectures, such as programming and processing of packets in the data plane, control interfaces and ultra-low latency control loops to optimize service levels in the control-plane, high-precision measurements and telemetry with nanosecond accuracy at scale, and related platforms and algorithms in the management plane. The workshop aims to provide a forum for researchers, students and professionals from industry and academia to discuss challenges, solution approaches, and work-in-progress to deliver, manage, and control high-precision and predictable networking services, including (Ultra) Low-Latency networks, deterministic networking, 6G, etc. The workshop welcomes papers related to disruptive concepts, innovative solutions, testbeds, experiments, etc. Topics of Interest include but are not limited to the following: - Platforms to manage and operate high-precision networks and services, e.g. Industrial Networks, Tactile Networks, Augmented Reality (AR), cloud gaming - Proof and validation of high-precision service level guarantees - High-precision measurement techniques for ultra-low latency and jitter - Service assurance for micro services, for service function chains - Applications for Inband Network Telemetry and iOAM - High-precision networking using service function chaining - In-network service level tuning and optimization; predictable QoS - Novel network programming models - Applications of Artificial Intelligence for high-precision networking - Time-Sensitive Networking (TSN) interconnect and wide-area TSN; IP and TSN convergence - SDN applications for high-precision, high-performance networking - High-precision networking over 5G - High-Precision networking services using Fog and Edge Computing - Deployment & operational experiences w/ Industrial Internet, Tactile Internet, networked AR, cloud gaming - 5G optimization techniques for ensuring Low Latency - Testbeds for High-Precision (OAI, MAGMA, etc.) - Networking optimization for fast processing and delivery (DPDK, etc.) - Microservices platform for ensuring High-Precision (OpenNetVM, etc.) Submission of Papers Authors are invited to submit original unpublished papers that are not already under review elsewhere. Submissions will be subjected to a peer-review process. Regular papers should be submitted in IEEE 2-column format, with paper length up to 7 pages including references. Papers have to be submitted electronically in PDF format through the EDAS conference management system available here: https://www.edas.info/newPaper.php?c=3D28754&track=3D107911 Authors of selected workshop papers will be fast tracked for publication in a special issue of the Springer Journal of Network and System Management (JNSM) on High Precision Networking guest edited by the workshop organizers. Important Dates Paper Submission: July 31, 2021 Notification: September 7, 2021 Camera Ready: September 21, 2021 Workshop: October 29, 2021 Proceedings Papers accepted and presented at HiPNet will be published open access on the conference Web site with IFIP copyright, and will be submitted for possible inclusion in IEEE Xplore, ACM and IFIP Digital Libraries. To be published in the Workshop Proceedings and to be eligible for publication, at least one author of an accepted paper is required to register and present the paper at the workshop. The organizer reserves the right to exclude a paper from distribution after the conference (including its removal from IEEE Xplore) if the paper is not presented at the conference. 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Ramakrishnan, University of California, US Prof. Martin Reisslein, Arizona State University, US Prof. Thomas Schmidt, Hamburg University of Applied Sciences, Germany Dr. Changyang She, The University of Sydney, Australia Dr. Maria Torres Vega, Ghent University, Belgium Mr. Stephane Tuffin, Orange Labs, France Dr. Shen Yan, Huawei Technologies Co, China= From nobody Thu Jul 15 07:38:43 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5593A139C for ; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:38:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.095 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.095 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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The adoption of virtualization and s= oftwarization for networks and ICT infrastructures in general is more than = ever an opportunity of moving network solutions to customized end-to-end, y= et private and independent, network services designed and delivered on-dema= nd over heterogeneous network segments and infrastructures. The ever-growin= g connectivity demand and continually more stringent performance requiremen= ts along with operational and environmental costs are pushing the boundarie= s of network solutions to maximize the efficiency of every deployment and o= peration action. In this direction, automation and its extreme form known as "zero-touch" ha= s drawn the attention of many actors from the IT, Telecom and Cloud sectors= . A plethora of initiatives dealing with all related aspects from a global = or specialized point of view for 5G and beyond networks can be cited here: = TMF ZOOM, ETSI ZSM, ETSI ENI, RAN-related management initiatives (O-RAN, ON= F SD-RAN), different EU and non-EU research projects like MON-B5G, 5G-DIVE,= 5Growth, 5GZORRO, INSPIRE5Gplus, and last but not least the Hexa-X project= recently launched as a flagship 6G European initiative. An important objective of zero-touch is to go beyond the use of software-ba= sed solutions to automate some well-understood tasks for the sake of time s= avings. Zero-touch considers to make full use of analytics and AI-based mod= els to perform decision making at all levels of operations: optimize resour= ce sharing, reduce consumption using flexible mechanisms for network servic= e provisioning, and support new deployment models adapted to massively dist= ributed infrastructures, while ensuring smooth service continuity, SLA-comp= liance and end-to-end automation of the management and orchestration of net= work services and resources. Automation brings a series of challenges to th= e ways in which network services and more generally network slices are desi= gned, deployed, provided and (intelligently) managed. Multiple issues are s= till to be addressed for zero-touch to be concretely adopted by the Industr= y. One important direction is the need to converge on the way societal stim= uli coming in the form of service requests from a variety of vertical indus= tries (e.g., industry 4.0, transportation, energy, automotive, eHealth) are= handled by the network. And it is not only about dynamically deploying the= service, but most importantly about continuously monitoring it and providi= ng the various control loops towards 24/7 operation whilst fulfilling SLA r= equirements. This is the point at which the network will become a catalyzer= of all sorts of economic activity of our society, at the level of what the= Internet represented half a century ago. Therefore, with the same spirit of CNSM as a whole, this workshop on "Zero-= touch Network and Service Management" (ZNSM) aims at providing an internati= onal forum for researchers and practitioners from academia and the industry= at large, including network operators, service providers, equipment manufa= cturers and IT companies, to discuss and address the challenges deriving fr= om such evolution in the delivery and operation of networks and services. ***************************************************************************= ******* Enlightened by this vision, we are welcoming papers that cover or are relat= ed to any of the following topics: Use cases and requirements to move towards zero-touch frameworks Network service and slice life-cycle management using zero-touch solutions Automated deployment of network management components, including security a= spects Abstraction models for network and service complexity management and automa= tion Zero-touch approaches to enable physical and digital infrastructures includ= ing digital twin use cases Zero-touch integration fabric capabilities and continuous integration Composition of management functions and modularity principles for integrati= on Protocols, end points and Programmability APIs schemes as enablers for zero= -touch Service-oriented architectures and "as-a-Service" paradigms to serve zero-t= ouch management Telemetry data, vertical/horizontal closed-loop automation, policies, analy= tics and integrated intelligence Performance isolation, forecasting, anomaly detection, fast failure recover= y & high availability. Zero-touch models for edge/device-to-network integration, MEC, and heteroge= neous infrastructures Automated management and integration of open RAN solutions AI-based zero-touch approaches for heterogeneous and cross-domain network i= nfrastructures Data-driven solutions for the automation of specific network segments Impact of zero-touch on FCAPS-based network operations management Reliability, trust modeling and zero-trust approaches as an enabler for zer= o-touch management Assurance and fulfillment processes in zero-touch network management Automated SLA management and QoS guarantees in zero-touch infrastructures Zero-touch management and operation for energy efficient networks: solution= s, metrics and KPIs Adaptation approaches of legacy architectures towards zero-touch management Security considerations for zero-touch solutions: threat models and counter= measures Multi-tenant support in zero-touch environments: identity management, accou= nting and auditability Vertical-oriented zero-touch proof-of-concepts and pilots Service-oriented management testbeds and experimental validation of archite= ctural ideas AI/ML integration in service and network management decision-making, includ= ing resource optimization, Zero-touch solutions for a multi-stakeholder cooperation models Adaptation of business layers for zero-touch inter-operator resource sharing Network transformation schemes and strategies to support zero-touch managem= ent Network operator peering including service and resource federation ***************************************************************************= ******* Workshop Co-chairs: Amina Boubendir, Orange Labs, France Diego R. 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CALL FOR PAPERS – Workshop on Zero-Touch Network and Service Management (ZNSM 2021)

http://www.c= nsm-conf.org/2021/workshop_ZNSM.html

 

Collocated with 17th Internatio= nal Conference on Network and Service Management (CNSM 2021)
Smart Management for Future Networks and Services

Izmir, Turkey // 25-29 October = 2021

http://www.cnsm-conf.org/2= 021/index.html

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IMPORTANT DATES

 

Paper Submission: July 31, 2021
Acceptance Notification: Sept 7, 2021
Camera Ready Submission: Sept 21, 2021

 

Link to submission page: https://edas.info/newPaper.php?c=3D28752

 

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As we are heading towards nasce= nt 6G networks, this is the appropriate time to do a hindsight exercise to = gather the lessons learned to start shaping the networks to come in a coher= ent and converged manner towards a service-oriented automatically managed network. The adoption of virtualization and softwari= zation for networks and ICT infrastructures in general is more than ever an= opportunity of moving network solutions to customized end-to-end, yet priv= ate and independent, network services designed and delivered on-demand over heterogeneous network segments and i= nfrastructures. The ever-growing connectivity demand and continually more s= tringent performance requirements along with operational and environmental = costs are pushing the boundaries of network solutions to maximize the efficiency of every deployment and op= eration action.

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In this direction, automation a= nd its extreme form known as “zero-touch” has drawn the attenti= on of many actors from the IT, Telecom and Cloud sectors. A plethora of ini= tiatives dealing with all related aspects from a global or specialized point of view for 5G and beyond networks can be cite= d here: TMF ZOOM, ETSI ZSM, ETSI ENI, RAN-related management initiatives (O= -RAN, ONF SD-RAN), different EU and non-EU research projects like MON-B5G, = 5G-DIVE, 5Growth, 5GZORRO, INSPIRE5Gplus, and last but not least the Hexa-X project recently launched as a flagship = 6G European initiative.

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An important objective of zero-= touch is to go beyond the use of software-based solutions to automate some = well-understood tasks for the sake of time savings. Zero-touch considers to= make full use of analytics and AI-based models to perform decision making at all levels of operations: optimize re= source sharing, reduce consumption using flexible mechanisms for network se= rvice provisioning, and support new deployment models adapted to massively = distributed infrastructures, while ensuring smooth service continuity, SLA-compliance and end-to-end automati= on of the management and orchestration of network services and resources. A= utomation brings a series of challenges to the ways in which network servic= es and more generally network slices are designed, deployed, provided and (intelligently) managed. Multiple iss= ues are still to be addressed for zero-touch to be concretely adopted by th= e Industry. One important direction is the need to converge on the way soci= etal stimuli coming in the form of service requests from a variety of vertical industries (e.g., industry = 4.0, transportation, energy, automotive, eHealth) are handled by the networ= k. And it is not only about dynamically deploying the service, but most imp= ortantly about continuously monitoring it and providing the various control loops towards 24/7 operation whilst f= ulfilling SLA requirements. This is the point at which the network will bec= ome a catalyzer of all sorts of economic activity of our society, at the le= vel of what the Internet represented half a century ago.

 

Therefore, with the same spirit= of CNSM as a whole, this workshop on “Zero-touch Network and Service= Management” (ZNSM) aims at providing an international forum for rese= archers and practitioners from academia and the industry at large, including network operators, service providers, equipme= nt manufacturers and IT companies, to discuss and address the challenges de= riving from such evolution in the delivery and operation of networks and se= rvices.

 

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Enlightened by this vision, we = are welcoming papers that cover or are related to any of the following topi= cs:

 

Use cases and requirements to move towards zero-touch fr= ameworks=

Network service and slice life-cycle management using ze= ro-touch solutions

Aut= omated deployment of network management components, including security aspe= cts

Abstraction models for network and service complexity ma= nagement and automation

Zero-touch approaches to enable physical and digital inf= rastructures including digital twin use cases

Zero-touch integration fabric capabilities and continuou= s integration

Composition of management functions and modularity princ= iples for integration

Pro= tocols, end points and Programmability APIs schemes as enablers for zero-touch

Ser= vice-oriented architectures and “as-a-Service" paradigms to serve ze= ro-touch management

Telemetry data, vertical/horizontal closed-loop au= tomation, policies, analytics and integrated intelligence=

Performance isolation, forecasting, anomaly detect= ion, fast failure recovery & high availability.

Zero-touch models for edge/device-to-network integration= , MEC, and heterogeneous infrastructures=

Automated management and integration of open RAN solutio= ns

AI-based zero-touch approaches for heterogeneous and cro= ss-domain network infrastructures

Dat= a-driven solutions for the automation of specific network segments

Impact of zero-touch on FCAPS-based network operations m= anagement

Rel= iability, trust modeling and zero-trust approaches as an enabler for zero-touch management<= /span>

Assurance and fulfillment processes in zero-touch networ= k management

Aut= omated SLA management and QoS guarantees in zer= o-touch infrastructures

Zero-touch management and operation for energy efficient= networks: solutions, metrics and KPIs

Adaptation approaches of legacy architectures towards ze= ro-touch management

Security considerations for zero-touch solutions: threat= models and countermeasures

Multi-tenant support in zero-touch environments: identit= y management, accounting and auditability

Vertical-oriented zero-touch proof-of-concepts and pilot= s

Service-oriented management testbeds and experimental va= lidation of architectural ideas

AI/= ML integration in service and network management decision-making, including= resource optimization,

Zer= o-touch solutions for a multi-stakeholder cooperation models

Ada= ptation of business layers for zero-touch inter-operator resource sharing

Net= work transformation schemes and strategies to support zero-touch management=

Net= work operator peering including service and resource federation

 <= /span>

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Workshop Co-chairs:
Amina Boubendir, Orange Labs, France
Diego R. L=F3pez, Telefonica I+D, Spain
Carlos Guimar=E3es, UC3M, Spain
Josep Mangues-Bafalluy, CTTC, Spain
Xi Li, NEC Laboratories, Germany
Vilho Raisanen, Nokia Bell Labs, Finland

 

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--_000_F9B5455F58DAFA47BC202D5C02C2BB2E82544F5EOPEXCAUBM21corp_-- From nobody Thu Jul 15 20:19:59 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AAE3A21F0; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 20:19:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zwgGpqayN3Hh; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 20:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmccmta3.chinamobile.com (cmccmta3.chinamobile.com [221.176.66.81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7768F3A21EF; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 20:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spf.mail.chinamobile.com (unknown[172.16.121.9]) by rmmx-syy-dmz-app11-12011 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2eeb60f0fabbae9-08d16; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 11:19:23 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2eeb60f0fabbae9-08d16 X-RM-TagInfo: emlType=0 X-RM-SPAM-FLAG: 00000000 Received: from cmccPC (unknown[10.2.55.102]) by rmsmtp-syy-appsvr05-12005 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee560f0fab90b2-296cc; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 11:19:23 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee560f0fab90b2-296cc From: "Cheng Zhou" To: "'Pedro Martinez-Julia'" Cc: , , References: <02a301d773aa$4d976140$e8c623c0$@com> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 11:19:20 +0800 Message-ID: <000801d779f1$68b60ec0$3a222c40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Add0oeDA2eszzA5OSoiQ/bpRScyJMwAC9wow Content-Language: zh-cn Archived-At: Subject: Re: [nmrg] Call for comments on new version of I-D: draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts-04.txt X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 03:19:58 -0000 Hi Pedro,=20 Sorry for the late response. Thanks for your valuable comments.=20 We will consider to add some short description to compare architecture = of Digital twin network with one or two typical network management = architecture in future version of the I-D.=20 Thanks and Best Regards, Cheng Zhou =20 -----Original mail ----- =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Pedro Martinez-Julia = [mailto:pedro@nict.go.jp]=20 =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4: 2021=E5=B9=B47=E6=9C=889=E6=97=A5 = 17:00 =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA: Cheng Zhou =E6=8A=84=E9=80=81: nmrg@irtf.org; = draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts@ietf.org; = nmrg-chairs@irtf.org =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [nmrg] Call for comments on new version of I-D: = draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts-04.txt On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 11:35:30AM +0800, Cheng Zhou wrote: > Hello, experts in NMRG,=20 >=20 > We just submitted a new version of I-D = draft-zhou-nmrg-digitaltwin-network-concepts-04.txt.=20 > The main changed in the version are listed as below.=20 > 1) Changed the I-D title from "Concepts of Digital Twin Network" to = "Digital Twin Network: Concepts and Reference Architecture". > 2) Update data definition and models definitions to clarify their = difference. > 3) Remove the orchestration element and consolidated into control = functionality building block in the digital twin network. > 4) Clarify the mapping relation (one to one, and one to many) in the = mapping definition. > 5) Add explanation text for continuous verification. >=20 > We would appreciate any thoughts or comments on this I-D from the = group. Dear Cheng, The overall proposal in this I-D is an enlarged version of a typical closed-cycle autonomic network management architecture. It has been enlarged by instantiating a simulator together with the model building and other elements of the analysis stage and knowledge base. Moreover, it has increased requirements for input data, so that both models and simulators have a more realistic view of the network. 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We could do another try either as a side meeting during IETF or the week after (preferably). I have create a new doodle accordingly: https://doodle.com/poll/saiwk24iueax4dut?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link Depending on the availability of participants, we'll decide. As a preparation of the discussion during the next NMRG meeting, please have a look at the current version of the doc (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I9Z3MiwqdY_CkQI5yWpyKRTvIYjeDqWM5fDIZQ_K63o/edit), in particular regarding  challenge #2 data management, and give any feedback/comment or add your own inputs to the text. We'll probably use this challenge to better profile what we expect in terms of levels of details. Best regards jerome Le 06/07/2021 à 23:25, Jérôme François a écrit : > Dear all, > > I would like to thank you all for proposing your help to lead some challenges > and providing inputs in the doc. > Note that I've now created a third version of the document: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I9Z3MiwqdY_CkQI5yWpyKRTvIYjeDqWM5fDIZQ_K63o/edit > > It reflects the discussion by emails and during meetings. > Lead editors have been partially identified in bold fonts (some needs to be > confirmed) > > We start now phase 2 dedicated to collectively write the two selected challenges > as examples. I suggest the following ones: > - #2 data management > - #9 AI for planning of actions > > *T**he deadline is July 18. I ask every contributor to provide their inputs and > the lead editor to monitor and consolidate them according to the generic > template we defined in the last meeting:* > - Motivation > --> Highlight the criticality/impact of the problem to be addressed > - Current SotA > --> current proposals / trends based on reference/survey > - Detailed description of the sub(challenges) > -->Highlight what are the remaining issues to be resolved from the previous SotA > > *I would like also to propose a tentative editorial meeting focused on these two > challenges to finalize them the week before IETF. Please fill out the following > doodle by July 9:* > > https://doodle.com/poll/ek99tvzgt9tzxvua?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link > > Best regards, > jerome > > > Le 25/06/2021 à 10:09, Jérôme François a écrit : >> Dear all, >> >> You can find the minutes of our last virtual meeting >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2021-nmrg-03-202106221400/ >> >> To progress on the document we agree to target the following timeline: >> >> *1) June 30 >> *- List of challenges identified* >> *- One lead editor per challenge identified >> >> >> *2) July 18* >> Writing of one or two challenges as example(s) based on the template (see the >> slides: >> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FH4M884mHXdr2WrZZ3UTcuxlIxUV4mXE/edit#slide=id.ge19cc74927_0_58) >> (They will be identified after June 30) >> >> *3) September 07* >> All challenges written according to the template with an equivalent level of >> details of the examples >> Introduction refined according to current comments (Jerome) >> >> >> *For point 1):* >> - the list of challenges must be frozen for our first iteration (challenges >> could be added later if needed) >> - The current challenge >> (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dQOzZustI2mkYr_omtiqu3FqUvoqLgaCp7nbRj4ZJyw/edit) >> list will be kept with the following modifications: >> -- "#2 data" merged with "#13 Scalable real-time monitoring" >> -- "#9 AI for Intent-based management " to be reshaped as AI for planning >> actions in NM (not specific to IBN) >> -- "#8 ML for Intent based management": must not be specific to IBN. Maybe to >> be merged "#10 AI for Exploiting External Events" under a challenge related to >> the use of non technical/external data but we would like to have more feedback >> here. >> >> Of course, this represents the outcome of the discussion we had during the >> meeting but please do not hesistate to provide *any feedback until June 30. >> >> * *Besides, please let me know by June 30 if you are willing to be the lead >> editor for a challenge.** >> **Anybody can contribute to any challenge but the role of the lead editor would >> be to integrate the different comments/modifications proposed.** >> *** >> Thanks for your help in progressing on this document. >> >> Best regards >> Jérôme >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nmrg mailing list >> nmrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg > --------------4E554BF1F625AF0CCA6FB5DB Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear all,

We cannot plan a meeting the week before IETF.
We could do another try either as a side meeting during IETF or the week after (preferably). I have create a new doodle accordingly:
https://doodle.com/poll/saiwk24iueax4dut?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link

Depending on the availability of participants, we'll decide.
As a preparation of the discussion during the next NMRG meeting, please have a look at the current version of the doc (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I9Z3MiwqdY_CkQI5yWpyKRTvIYjeDqWM5fDIZQ_K63o/edit), in particular regarding  challenge #2 data management, and give any feedback/comment or add your own inputs to the text.

We'll probably use this challenge to better profile what we expect in terms of levels of details.

Best regards
jerome


Le 06/07/2021 à 23:25, Jérôme François a écrit :
Dear all,

I would like to thank you all for proposing your help to lead some challenges and providing inputs in the doc.
Note that I've now created a third version of the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I9Z3MiwqdY_CkQI5yWpyKRTvIYjeDqWM5fDIZQ_K63o/edit

It reflects the discussion by emails and during meetings.
Lead editors have been partially identified in bold fonts (some needs to be confirmed)

We start now phase 2 dedicated to collectively write the two selected challenges as examples. I suggest the following ones:
- #2 data management
- #9 AI for planning of actions

The deadline is July 18. I ask every contributor to provide their inputs and the lead editor to monitor and consolidate them according to the generic template we defined in the last meeting:
- Motivation
--> Highlight the criticality/impact of the problem to be addressed
- Current SotA
--> current proposals / trends based on reference/survey
- Detailed description of the sub(challenges)
-->Highlight what are the remaining issues to be resolved from the previous SotA

I would like also to propose a tentative editorial meeting focused on these two challenges to finalize them the week before IETF. Please fill out the following doodle by July 9:

https://doodle.com/poll/ek99tvzgt9tzxvua?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link

Best regards,
jerome


Le 25/06/2021 à 10:09, Jérôme François a écrit :
Dear all,

You can find the minutes of our last virtual meeting https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2021-nmrg-03-202106221400/

To progress on the document we agree to target the following timeline:

1) June 30
- List of challenges identified
- One lead editor per challenge identified


2) July 18
Writing of one or two challenges as example(s) based on the template (see the slides: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1FH4M884mHXdr2WrZZ3UTcuxlIxUV4mXE/edit#slide=id.ge19cc74927_0_58)
(They will be identified after June 30)

3) September 07
All challenges written according to the template with an equivalent level of details of the examples
Introduction refined according to current comments (Jerome)


For point 1):
- the list of challenges must be frozen for our first iteration (challenges could be added later if needed)
- The current challenge (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dQOzZustI2mkYr_omtiqu3FqUvoqLgaCp7nbRj4ZJyw/edit) list will be kept with the following modifications:
-- "#2 data" merged with "#13 Scalable real-time monitoring"
-- "#9 AI for Intent-based management " to be reshaped as AI for planning actions in NM (not specific to IBN)
-- "#8 ML for Intent based management": must not be specific to IBN. Maybe to be merged "#10 AI for Exploiting External Events" under a challenge related to the use of non technical/external data but we would like to have more feedback here.

Of course, this represents the outcome of the discussion we had during the meeting but please do not hesistate to provide any feedback until June 30.

 Besides, please let me know by June 30 if you are willing to be the lead editor for a challenge.
 Anybody can contribute to any challenge but the role of the lead editor would be to integrate the different comments/modifications proposed.
Thanks for your help in progressing on this document.

Best regards
Jérôme



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Archived-At: Subject: [nmrg] ANRP talk of potential interest X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2021 21:46:46 -0000 Hi NMRG,=20 The Applied Networking Research Prize talks take place during the IRTF = Open Meeting on Monday at IETF 111. One of the presentations may be of = interest: R=C3=BCdiger Birkner will talk about =E2=80=9CConfig2spec: = Mining Network Specifications from Network Configurations=E2=80=9D. More information at https://irtf.org/anrp/=20 Colin From nobody Mon Jul 26 03:15:58 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CFD83A0809; Mon, 26 Jul 2021 03:15:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vlPoPg4zgUqh; Mon, 26 Jul 2021 03:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frasgout.his.huawei.com (frasgout.his.huawei.com [185.176.79.56]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02A723A0805; Mon, 26 Jul 2021 03:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fraeml736-chm.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.147.200]) by frasgout.his.huawei.com (SkyGuard) with ESMTP id 4GYFvN1SP3z6FFsd; Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:06:40 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.47.77.81] (10.47.77.81) by fraeml736-chm.china.huawei.com (10.206.15.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2176.2; Mon, 26 Jul 2021 12:15:45 +0200 To: =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgRnJhbsOnb2lz?= , "nmrg@irtf.org" CC: "nmrg-chairs@irtf.org" References: From: Benoit Claise Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 12:15:17 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3816244CFE6B4159E0736C90" Content-Language: en-GB X-Originating-IP: [10.47.77.81] X-ClientProxiedBy: dggems704-chm.china.huawei.com (10.3.19.181) To fraeml736-chm.china.huawei.com (10.206.15.217) X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [nmrg] Agenda for NMRG meeting at IETF 111 X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2021 10:15:56 -0000 --------------3816244CFE6B4159E0736C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jérôme and Laurent, Shouldn't we address the RG documents first? 00:35-00:45 - Status of RG documents, RG chairs, 5min + 5min Q&A https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification/ Regards, Benoit On 7/23/2021 8:48 AM, Jérôme François wrote: > Dear all, > > The agenda for NMRG meeting is here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/agenda-111-nmrg-01 > > We kindly request all presenters to submit their presentations in the > dataracker (or send to us) by next Monday July 26 EoB-AoE. > > > Best regards, > Jérôme and Laurent. > > _______________________________________________ > nmrg mailing list > nmrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg --------------3816244CFE6B4159E0736C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jérôme and Laurent,

Shouldn't we address the RG documents first?
00:35-00:45 - Status of RG documents, RG chairs, 5min + 5min Q&A
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification/
Regards, Benoit

On 7/23/2021 8:48 AM, Jérôme François wrote:
Dear all,

The agenda for NMRG meeting is here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/agenda-111-nmrg-01

We kindly request all presenters to submit their presentations in the dataracker (or send to us) by next Monday July 26 EoB-AoE.


Best regards,
Jérôme and Laurent.

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--------------3816244CFE6B4159E0736C90-- From nobody Tue Jul 27 01:52:46 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099543A0D3C; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 01:52:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6yTPX7I2DZC2; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 01:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.104]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 802C83A1B91; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 01:52:37 -0700 (PDT) IronPort-HdrOrdr: =?us-ascii?q?A9a23=3AXSDuf6t3jEnrvZYzZEUCiJ/Q7skDzdV00zEX?= =?us-ascii?q?/kB9WHVpmwKj9vxG+85rsyMc6QxhP03I/OrrBEDuex7hHPJOjbX5eI3SPzUPVg?= =?us-ascii?q?OTXf1fBMjZskDd8xSXzJ8j6U4YSdkBNDSTNzhHZLfBkW2F+o0bsaC6GcmT7I+0?= =?us-ascii?q?854ud3AJV0gH1WhE422gYyhLrWd9a6bRPaDsl/Zvln6PeWk3cs/+PXUMRe7Fzu?= =?us-ascii?q?e77q7OUFopBwMH9ALLtj+j6Kf7Hx+Ety1uKA9n8PMN8XXljwe83amos+i6xhjA?= =?us-ascii?q?k0ff4o9bgsGJ8KoyOOW8zuYUNxTxgUKTaINtV6bqhkFMnN2S?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.84,272,1620684000"; d="scan'208,217";a="389064978" Received: from eduroam-64-58.loria.fr (HELO [152.81.64.58]) ([152.81.64.58]) by mail3-relais-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-GCM-SHA384; 27 Jul 2021 10:52:34 +0200 To: Benoit Claise , "nmrg@irtf.org" Cc: "nmrg-chairs@irtf.org" References: From: =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgRnJhbsOnb2lz?= Message-ID: <717ea76a-26fd-e023-cd3f-39939acde52d@inria.fr> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 10:52:33 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------305FB6F61ECA05FD8A29278F" Content-Language: fr Archived-At: Subject: Re: [nmrg] Agenda for NMRG meeting at IETF 111 X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:52:44 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------305FB6F61ECA05FD8A29278F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Benoit, Thank for your feedback. This time we want to start other drafts and tech talks for having productive discussions. jerome Le 26/07/2021 à 12:15, Benoit Claise a écrit : > Jérôme and Laurent, > > Shouldn't we address the RG documents first? > 00:35-00:45 - Status of RG documents, RG chairs, 5min + 5min Q&A > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions/ > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification/ > Regards, Benoit > > On 7/23/2021 8:48 AM, Jérôme François wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> The agenda for NMRG meeting is here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/agenda-111-nmrg-01 >> >> We kindly request all presenters to submit their presentations in the >> dataracker (or send to us) by next Monday July 26 EoB-AoE. >> >> >> Best regards, >> Jérôme and Laurent. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nmrg mailing list >> nmrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg > --------------305FB6F61ECA05FD8A29278F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Benoit,

Thank for your feedback. This time we want to start other drafts and tech talks for having productive discussions.

jerome

Le 26/07/2021 à 12:15, Benoit Claise a écrit :
Jérôme and Laurent,

Shouldn't we address the RG documents first?
00:35-00:45 - Status of RG documents, RG chairs, 5min + 5min Q&A
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification/
Regards, Benoit

On 7/23/2021 8:48 AM, Jérôme François wrote:
Dear all,

The agenda for NMRG meeting is here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/agenda-111-nmrg-01

We kindly request all presenters to submit their presentations in the dataracker (or send to us) by next Monday July 26 EoB-AoE.


Best regards,
Jérôme and Laurent.

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--------------305FB6F61ECA05FD8A29278F-- From nobody Tue Jul 27 02:46:54 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nmrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D23A3A1D57; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 02:46:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HRvMU5SbBhPc; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 02:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frasgout.his.huawei.com (frasgout.his.huawei.com [185.176.79.56]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0CE1F3A1D55; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 02:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fraeml736-chm.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.147.200]) by frasgout.his.huawei.com (SkyGuard) with ESMTP id 4GYs8D4dZFz6L9bZ; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 17:34:52 +0800 (CST) Received: from [10.47.73.246] (10.47.73.246) by fraeml736-chm.china.huawei.com (10.206.15.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2176.2; Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:46:39 +0200 To: =?UTF-8?B?SsOpcsO0bWUgRnJhbsOnb2lz?= , "nmrg@irtf.org" CC: "nmrg-chairs@irtf.org" References: <717ea76a-26fd-e023-cd3f-39939acde52d@inria.fr> From: Benoit Claise Message-ID: <1cff00be-21a4-a2f3-9327-5832756a2d76@huawei.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:46:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <717ea76a-26fd-e023-cd3f-39939acde52d@inria.fr> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------A487C742A9E5B9756717D3DE" Content-Language: en-GB X-Originating-IP: [10.47.73.246] X-ClientProxiedBy: dggems703-chm.china.huawei.com (10.3.19.180) To fraeml736-chm.china.huawei.com (10.206.15.217) X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [nmrg] Agenda for NMRG meeting at IETF 111 X-BeenThere: nmrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Network Management Research Group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 09:46:53 -0000 --------------A487C742A9E5B9756717D3DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jerome, Oh ok. I actually thought the  IRTF was like the IETF, where the priority was to publish specifications... Regards, Benoit On 7/27/2021 10:52 AM, Jérôme François wrote: > Hi Benoit, > > Thank for your feedback. This time we want to start other drafts and > tech talks for having productive discussions. > > jerome > > Le 26/07/2021 à 12:15, Benoit Claise a écrit : >> Jérôme and Laurent, >> >> Shouldn't we address the RG documents first? >> 00:35-00:45 - Status of RG documents, RG chairs, 5min + 5min Q&A >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions/ >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification/ >> Regards, Benoit >> >> On 7/23/2021 8:48 AM, Jérôme François wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> The agenda for NMRG meeting is here: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/agenda-111-nmrg-01 >>> >>> We kindly request all presenters to submit their presentations in >>> the dataracker (or send to us) by next Monday July 26 EoB-AoE. >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Jérôme and Laurent. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nmrg mailing list >>> nmrg@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmrg >> > --------------A487C742A9E5B9756717D3DE Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jerome,

Oh ok. I actually thought the  IRTF was like the IETF, where the priority was to publish specifications...

Regards, Benoit

On 7/27/2021 10:52 AM, Jérôme François wrote:
Hi Benoit,

Thank for your feedback. This time we want to start other drafts and tech talks for having productive discussions.

jerome

Le 26/07/2021 à 12:15, Benoit Claise a écrit :
Jérôme and Laurent,

Shouldn't we address the RG documents first?
00:35-00:45 - Status of RG documents, RG chairs, 5min + 5min Q&A
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions/
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-intent-classification/
Regards, Benoit

On 7/23/2021 8:48 AM, Jérôme François wrote:
Dear all,

The agenda for NMRG meeting is here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/materials/agenda-111-nmrg-01

We kindly request all presenters to submit their presentations in the dataracker (or send to us) by next Monday July 26 EoB-AoE.


Best regards,
Jérôme and Laurent.

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