Received: from hoffman.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2EIDkfp088442 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:13:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.13.5/Submit) id p2EIDkLY088441; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:13:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hoffman.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from merrymeet.com (thing2.merrymeet.com [173.164.244.100] (may be forged)) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2EIDjJn088436 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:13:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from jon@callas.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merrymeet.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB76E2E0FF for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merrymeet.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (host.domain.tld [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03764-05 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from keys.merrymeet.com (keys.merrymeet.com [173.164.244.97]) (Authenticated sender: jon) by merrymeet.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7D8552E0BD for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [17.193.15.61] ([17.193.15.61]) by keys.merrymeet.com (PGP Universal service); Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:13:42 -0700 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys.merrymeet.com on Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:13:42 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Subject: Re: MIME media type literal packet in OpenPGP From: Jon Callas In-Reply-To: <4D7A931A.6020503@epointsystem.org> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:13:41 -0700 Message-Id: <0D9FE46E-408B-40EB-BAF2-3078D363FD69@callas.org> References: <4D7A931A.6020503@epointsystem.org> To: IETF OpenPGP Working Group X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-PGP-Encoding-Format: Partitioned X-PGP-Encoding-Version: 2.0.2 X-Content-PGP-Universal-Saved-Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-PGP-Universal-Saved-Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hoffman.proper.com id p2EIDjJn088437 Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > I have two complaints about this proposal: > > 1. There is an already widely used way of encapsulating MIME content > into PGP messages, PGP/MIME (a.k.a. RFC 3156), and this proposal is not > compatible with it. > > 2. In this proposal, mime type would not be part of the hashed content > for digital signatures, meaning that it can be changed without breaking > the digital signature. This is dangerous. PGP/MIME does not have this > weakness. Comments on your comments, Daniel. I think the word MIME is a misnomer, because it has nothing to do content. It has to do with data typing only. It's a way to say that a PGP blob in (e.g. a web page) is of a certain type. Without it, you have to infer type from the file name, which is suboptimal. All that it does is let you say that a PGP output has a certain media type explicitly. If you're doing a MIME mail message, then yes, that's a much better way to express things. But if you're doing secured web content, especially dynamic content (think Web 2.0 etc.), then it's much better to put the exact media type in the blob, so it can be handled properly when the higher levels get it. You're absolutely right that it's unsigned. That's unfortunate. It is also what we have to work with. It is, at least, covered by an MDC packet, which is better than nothing and likely good enough. On the other side of it, you don't have to get into trust issues, either, which is a plus. This grew out of some fantastic work that Vinnie did for secure Web 2.0 content using OpenPGP as the encryption framework. It let you do things like Facebook messages and lists that Facebook couldn't read itself. Jon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Universal 2.10.0 (Build 554) Charset: us-ascii wj8DBQFNflrWsTedWZOD3gYRAlm8AJwPYnQz46Uzg2k/q2Niy1npO0szeACg2yuu g2+6IsNLh29RgU5kKXcska0= =QJnd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Received: from hoffman.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2C03lVF050096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:03:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.13.5/Submit) id p2C03lUF050095; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:03:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hoffman.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail-yi0-f43.google.com (mail-yi0-f43.google.com [209.85.218.43]) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2C03k18050089 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:03:47 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from aaron.toponce@gmail.com) Received: by yia13 with SMTP id 13so1634502yia.16 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:03:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=wMyB0Tibf8xzfy+ld8lj8vf0fydsx8gScolOu2ze3Gc=; b=UOv0nN8ruY0sNFxoEHm5LRRfNBRhPp6L/vy4NU7tsbVjZe45UlmsNcCCrAWEQbdLkZ 69Ff/hV/5I39e1als26hIw64gbkoegKlc1ikzC0dkdrwjziaEsw7hWagoad7QszZVKUD LdQ0Tu1zNZITgNTRvoA4fBmlXOcGtp1mcyKPk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; b=m/9rbXU8quAUNPh/1mndZn28khu3RulBmcfPqRTdjhY1Ngcn/U20YJZoA7+AeRYR0Y MPaKCMaJumTY2hHGzTgGXzZw4MvMBiYuX0jp6Tu6UhhSbj9gFL39BYjVC0UQG5Hp28n5 oo6JHZWxF5/q9aiWf3cVZ9WS3HEngRoYgkH3Q= Received: by 10.150.113.4 with SMTP id l4mr3284551ybc.279.1299888225857; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (c-24-10-200-153.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [24.10.200.153]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q34sm5253252ybk.15.2011.03.11.16.03.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:03:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D7AB85E.9010804@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:03:42 -0700 From: Aaron Toponce User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101226 Icedove/3.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: IETF OpenPGP Working Group Subject: Re: MIME media type literal packet in OpenPGP References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig93FEF70D7CDFBF4AC772717F" Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig93FEF70D7CDFBF4AC772717F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/11/2011 11:39 AM, Vinnie Moscaritolo wrote: > * PGP Signed: 03/11/2011 at 10:39:52 AM Curious, but I can't find the signature, even though your email says that it is signed. Am I missing something? --=20 =2E o . o . o . . o o . . . o . =2E . o . o o o . o . o o . . o o o o . o . . o o o o . o o o --------------enig93FEF70D7CDFBF4AC772717F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://tinyurl.com/aarongpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJNerheAAoJEM55Ebf8BAiPwFsH/RrN2cQVDhSyoenReUUM21A4 Bo818IrZYeEAfdGnqVKb5WBiGu/H5IuSLk1ma5p45ttpGpIkKcxproBEciDHzkiI 2ig6QDrz8Nb32eGeWcacS3ksMm+oHsh0HRfQWtmtqea+eVKh5aWJfXINjLW+2BlX k+LWueKbgwjmTDxggt2F1uJtUzaLAeSoHaF9dZ09z+mkciwlByW6Lae9nA+TeF8W Szc6LPqWa6E4aUMOWtgChiEx03AhEsoA8i0IL9agANadzYoLrkCcvOVXRyObEz3l 8w48VsBKOpFdryhB3yOi7RCbGZWnBLsql12wvFu/w27jqtikjBB3jgZ7+UG0tiM= =BqIu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig93FEF70D7CDFBF4AC772717F-- Received: from hoffman.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2BLOrR0044972 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:24:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.13.5/Submit) id p2BLOrGh044971; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:24:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hoffman.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail-bw0-f43.google.com (mail-bw0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2BLOnpE044959 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:24:51 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nagydani@epointsystem.org) Received: by bwz14 with SMTP id 14so3712865bwz.16 for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:24:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.35.18 with SMTP id n18mr1188431bkd.91.1299878688876; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:24:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.55.151] ([213.163.35.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l3sm2842142fan.2.2011.03.11.13.24.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:24:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D7A931A.6020503@epointsystem.org> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:24:42 +0100 From: "Daniel A. Nagy" Organization: ePoint Systems Ltd. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Thunderbird/3.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Vinnie Moscaritolo CC: IETF OpenPGP Working Group Subject: Re: MIME media type literal packet in OpenPGP References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig421BC3F78EEA878DA8B36444" Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig421BC3F78EEA878DA8B36444 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/11/2011 07:39 PM, Vinnie Moscaritolo wrote: > * PGP Signed: 03/11/2011 at 10:39:52 AM > Greating; >=20 > I just posted an informational draft about some minor changes that the > PGP sdk > is now supporting. comments and complaints are welcome. Hello, I have two complaints about this proposal: 1. There is an already widely used way of encapsulating MIME content into PGP messages, PGP/MIME (a.k.a. RFC 3156), and this proposal is not compatible with it. 2. In this proposal, mime type would not be part of the hashed content for digital signatures, meaning that it can be changed without breaking the digital signature. This is dangerous. PGP/MIME does not have this weakness. --=20 Daniel --------------enig421BC3F78EEA878DA8B36444 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk16kx4ACgkQ28D1wCI06YV9WwCfQLzNioG0qRF3rvw9pm2HA6z9 O5IAn1iwtKqxy2R3osBdNzljO/lGMnNA =Ms8t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig421BC3F78EEA878DA8B36444-- Received: from hoffman.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2BJnLeG041530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:49:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.13.5/Submit) id p2BJnL2G041529; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:49:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hoffman.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from walrus.jabberwocky.com (walrus.jabberwocky.com [173.9.29.57]) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2BJnIEN041524 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:49:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from dshaw@jabberwocky.com) Received: from dshaw.nasuni.net (gw-comcast1.nasuni.com [173.166.63.186]) (authenticated bits=0) by walrus.jabberwocky.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p2BJnFZP022884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:49:17 -0500 Subject: Re: MIME media type literal packet in OpenPGP Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: David Shaw In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:49:15 -0500 Cc: IETF OpenPGP Working Group Message-Id: <3D9E2AEA-C732-4D9A-8E99-50465535615E@jabberwocky.com> References: To: Vinnie Moscaritolo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hoffman.proper.com id p2BJnJEM041525 Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: On Mar 11, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Vinnie Moscaritolo wrote: > * PGP Signed: 03/11/2011 at 10:39:52 AM > Greating; > > I just posted an informational draft about some minor changes that the PGP sdk > is now supporting. comments and complaints are welcome. > > be kind, this is my first time doing this. > > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-moscaritolo-openpgp-literal-00.txt This looks reasonable enough to me. I'd add a note to the Security Considerations section that when using this method on a signed document, the MIME type is changeable without invalidating the signature (since the signature hash does not cover the literal packet metadata). This could allow an attacker to force a particular content handler to run (say, by changing text/plain to image/jpeg). When encrypting (or signing+encrypting) the MDC helps you here, but for a signed (only) document, there is an opening for mischief. Also, a minor typo: By providing more information beyond the existing binary and text formats this extension and can enable the automated selection of an appropriate media viewer for the decoded content. "...and can enable..." should probably be "...can enable...". I like this bit: o The MIME media type MAY have an OPTIONAL null byte termination. Any data that follows such a null byte should be discarded and not considered part of the MIME media type. That effectively leaves open a possibility of having a third (hopefully small) string in that field, which may be useful someday. Implementation-wise, there is a minor gotcha here as GPG actually allows nulls in the filename. By default, GPG ignores the filename field, but there is an option (--use-embedded-filename) which tells GPG to actually use that field for the filename, and it will interpret a null as a literal "\0" (i.e. backslash plus zero). I wouldn't worry terribly much about it, but if this draft is adopted we'll have to update GPG to handle it. David Received: from hoffman.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2BIdxth038801 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:39:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.13.5/Submit) id p2BIdxln038800; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:39:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: hoffman.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mx1.pgp.com (207-7-148-111.pgp.com [207.7.148.111] (may be forged)) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p2BIdwYh038795 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:39:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from vinnie@pgpeng.com) Received: from mail.pgpeng.com (HELO pgpeng.com) ([10.214.100.75]) by mx1.pgp.com with ESMTP; 11 Mar 2011 10:39:56 -0800 Received: from keys1.pgpeng.com (account vinnie@pgpeng.com [10.214.100.74] verified) by pgpeng.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.3.8) with ESMTPSA id 1005746 for ietf-openpgp@imc.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:39:55 -0800 Received: from B52-H.local ([10.72.116.194]) by keys1.pgpeng.com (PGP Universal service); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:56:25 -0800 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by keys1.pgpeng.com on Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:56:25 -0800 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by B52-H.local (PGP Universal service); Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:39:52 -0800 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by B52-H.local on Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:39:52 -0800 From: Vinnie Moscaritolo Subject: MIME media type literal packet in OpenPGP Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:39:40 -0800 Message-Id: To: IETF OpenPGP Working Group Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-PGP-Universal-Decrypted: TRUE X-PGP-Universal-MIC: iQEVAwUATXpwWa1X37o04ktHAQiuOwf9GWgbgm2x9BxJAwlDwW/vM GHrW9lDO78QGm9sh+YnYG8FwGoMzqlorUXUzWbinOdPMnspUZ0KGV0es5Y8RE9Gc8OslgoxkT be2kIlW5aiDGCLobZzZfe0eV4BdtUHp3pTq6Ju9yqo9GhGos3YcvVK0Hr57fhiC8KZTeNc1gD BQwQ1Evec6thF8qVveNPGnMPyndWQYiuWB/P0YF8lVkWOBBJm/ET9zr5IRTlh74YLIutqWEhg L1lXVetJfLEhy08vPPhmD7BeCkpLNFd9hM1BQAjXXhxJu5xjlsx+8VWNye5uipmWzV8E1k0lQ RdFVwFN8R4Shnhz6O/TeOfcJXQCEw== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-58--560966435 Sender: owner-ietf-openpgp@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: --Apple-Mail-58--560966435 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" * PGP Signed: 03/11/2011 at 10:39:52 AM Greating; I just posted an informational draft about some minor changes that the PGP sdk is now supporting. comments and complaints are welcome. be kind, this is my first time doing this. http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-moscaritolo-openpgp-literal-00.txt This document describes an extension to the OpenPGP Message Format that allows a Multipurpose Internet Mail Extension (MIME) Media Type (aka Intenet Media type) to be associated with the encoded content. By providing more information beyond the existing binary and text formats this extension and can enable the automated selection of an appropriate media viewer for the decoded content. ------------------------------------------------------- Vinnie Moscaritolo Principal Cryptographic Engineer PGP, now a part of Symantec Corporation PGP Fingerprint: 7E64 B73D 55AB CEF5 B3BB E501 E985 A429 9CFE ACEC * Vinnie Moscaritolo * 0x9CFEACEC:0xBAD29397 --Apple-Mail-58--560966435 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
* PGP Signed: 03/11/2011 at 10:39:52 AM
Greating;

I just posted an informational draf= t about some minor changes that the PGP sdk
is now supporting. &n= bsp; comments and complaints are welcome.

be kind,= this is my first time doing this.

http://www.ietf.org= /id/draft-moscaritolo-openpgp-literal-00.txt

&n= bsp;This document describes an extension to the OpenPGP Message Format
   that allows a Multipurpose Internet Mail Extension (MIME= ) Media Type
   (aka Intenet Media type) to be associat= ed with the encoded content.
   By providing more infor= mation beyond the existing binary and text
   formats t= his extension and can enable the automated selection of an
 =   appropriate media viewer for the decoded content.



-------------------------------------= ------------------

Vinnie Moscarito= lo
Principal Cryptographic Engineer
PGP, now a part of Symantec Corpo= ration
PGP Fingerprint:
7E64 B73D 55AB CEF5 B3BB  E501 E985 A429 9CFE= ACEC



* Vinnie Moscaritolo <vinnie@pgpeng.com>
* 0x9CFEACEC:0xBAD29397
  --Apple-Mail-58--560966435--