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not interested - http://www.mortgage-tower.com/r.php ----70206_1105737.4G375-- From liam50720310cark@cybrmda.com Tue Jun 7 03:50:43 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA26606; Tue, 7 Jun 2005 03:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host50.foretec.com ([65.246.255.50] helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DfZCB-00044y-KN; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 04:12:28 -0400 Received: from cpe-65-28-248-191.woh.res.rr.com ([65.28.248.191]) by mx2.foretec.com with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1DfYr1-0000Zm-O9; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 03:50:32 -0400 Received: from fullum.kulinaris.com (65.28.248.191) by 65.28.248.191 (inconsiderate v0.18) with SMTP id <380514hv3x>; Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:47:15 -0700 Reply-To: "castillo kolb" From: "castillo kolb" To: ietf-archive@ietf.org Cc: speechsc-admin@ietf.org, nat-admin@ietf.org, nemo-admin@ietf.org, disman-admin@ietf.org, opes-archive@ietf.org, ssm@ietf.org, saad-request@ietf.org, ietf-123-outbound.02@ietf.org, avt@ietf.org, ietf-admin@ietf.org, eos@ietf.org, juliek@ietf.org, haa13952@ietf.org, rserpool-request@ietf.org, haa24250@ietf.org, pr-wg@ietf.org, nemo-web-archive@ietf.org Subject: We Owe you Money Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 04:41:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--75580_41113450.HTu05" Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Scan-Signature: 9466e0365fc95844abaf7c3f15a05c7d ----75580_41113450.HTu05 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Dear Applicant,

Your financing application was approved.
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Please use our secure site to complete the rest of the process, which does not ask for any sensative information.
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Jane Wilson, Account Manager
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------=_NextPart_001_0001_EEDB1B58.697A1965-- ------=_NextPart_000_0000_36F74565.C31D4455-- From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Wed Jun 8 16:19:18 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA10232 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:19:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Dg7MN-0007v9-25 for opes-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 16:41:22 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j58K1Wj5097869; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:01:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j58K1Wx3097868; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:01:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.rfburst.com ([66.119.143.56]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j58K1Wvl097862 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:01:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ho@alum.mit.edu) Received: from tobermory.localdomain (rfb.rfburst.com [66.119.143.249]) by mail.rfburst.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j58K1NTI031365 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:01:23 -0600 Received: from localhost.localdomain (tobermory [127.0.0.1]) by tobermory.localdomain (8.12.10/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j58K3Wwq029836 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:03:32 -0600 Received: (from ho@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id j58K3W8O029832; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:03:32 -0600 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:03:32 -0600 Message-Id: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> From: "The Purple Streak, Hilarie Orman" To: ietf-openproxy@imc.org Subject: OPES Rules Language X-esmartscan-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-esmartscan-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: ho@alum.mit.edu Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 08e48e05374109708c00c6208b534009 I'm going to give the rules language a shot by trying to author a draft that merges the best of P and Sieve. Simple semantics and rich matching, with control points tailored to the OPES architecture. Send your wish lists. Hilarie From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Wed Jun 8 18:12:52 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA23708 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:12:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Dg97x-0004JM-F1 for opes-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2005 18:34:28 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j58Lu82D007075; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:56:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j58Lu8IW007074; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:56:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j58Lu7WU007068 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 14:56:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hofmann@bell-labs.com) Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-2-9.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by crufty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j58Lu31O084654 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:56:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com (bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.160.8]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j58Ltv0U030390 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [135.104.20.69] ([135.104.20.69]) by bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j58LtvoC008693 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <42A76920.8000204@bell-labs.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 17:54:40 -0400 From: Markus Hofmann User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-openproxy@imc.org Subject: Re: OPES Rules Language References: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Awesom, Hilarie! Folks, please submit comments and thoughts to Hilarie - and don't forget to copy the mailing list for an open discussion. Thanks, Markus The Purple Streak, Hilarie Orman wrote: > I'm going to give the rules language a shot by trying to author > a draft that merges the best of P and Sieve. Simple semantics > and rich matching, with control points tailored to the OPES > architecture. 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From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Thu Jun 9 11:01:17 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA09429 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:01:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DgOsU-0007WO-A7 for opes-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:23:31 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59EhHl4040027; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:43:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j59EhHHW040026; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:43:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from measurement-factory.com (measurement-factory.com [206.168.0.5]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59EhFtD040019 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:43:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rousskov@measurement-factory.com) Received: from pail.measurement-factory.com (nat.measurement-factory.com [206.168.0.3]) by measurement-factory.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59Eh03a071349; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:43:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from rousskov@measurement-factory.com) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 08:41:16 -0600 To: "The Purple Streak, Hilarie Orman" , ietf-openproxy@imc.org Subject: Re: OPES Rules Language References: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> From: "Alex Rousskov" Organization: The Measurement Factory Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (FreeBSD, build 1095) Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7baded97d9887f7a0c7e8a33c2e3ea1b Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 2005/06/08 (MDT), wrote: > I'm going to give the rules language a shot by trying to author > a draft that merges the best of P and Sieve. Simple semantics > and rich matching, Will you extend Sieve? In other words, will your language be a Sieve extenstion, following Sieve extension requirements? Will you make your language specific to HTTP adaptations? Or will it have modules/libraries/extensions/whatever for each application protocol being adapted (HTTP, SMTP, etc.)? > with control points tailored to the OPES architecture. Do you mean points where adaptation is triggered? For example pre/post-cache and request/response path in caching HTTP proxies? If not, please ignore the paragraph below. In my limited experience with ICAP configurations, and based on the "application agnostic core" principle, there may be no need for explicit control points. The control point can (should?) be an external to the language matter. The language does not have to depend on the message processing "point" where the adaptation is triggered. And IIRC, OPES architecture only provides examples of possible control points. > Send your wish lists. My wish list can be easily derived from the Sieve versus P comparison I have posted some time ago. I want all the good features that made the basis for that comparison :-). Thank you, Alex. 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-------------------------------- not interested ... http://fundingtalk.com/r.php ----83_08671.amCaps16-- From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Thu Jun 9 12:52:46 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA20607 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:52:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DgQcH-0006rv-H0 for opes-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:15:02 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59GXmKA048098; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:33:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j59GXm3I048097; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:33:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59GXls6048089 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:33:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@utel.net) Received: from [62.35.167.26] (helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DgPy4-00089S-F2; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:33:21 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050609174948.04e69840@mail.utel.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:00:59 +0200 To: "Alex Rousskov" , "The Purple Streak, Hilarie Orman" , ietf-openproxy@imc.org From: jfcm Subject: Re: OPES Rules Language In-Reply-To: References: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - imc.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - utel.net Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 02ec665d00de228c50c93ed6b5e4fc1a General agreement with Alex except on his restriction and added need below. At 16:41 09/06/2005, Alex Rousskov wrote: >On Wed, 2005/06/08 (MDT), wrote: > >>I'm going to give the rules language a shot by trying to author >>a draft that merges the best of P and Sieve. Simple semantics >>and rich matching, > >Will you extend Sieve? In other words, will your language be a >Sieve extenstion, following Sieve extension requirements? > >Will you make your language specific to HTTP adaptations? >Or will it have modules/libraries/extensions/whatever for >each application protocol being adapted (HTTP, SMTP, etc.)? > >>with control points tailored to the OPES architecture. > >Do you mean points where adaptation is triggered? For >example pre/post-cache and request/response path in >caching HTTP proxies? If not, please ignore the paragraph >below. > >In my limited experience with ICAP configurations, and based >on the "application agnostic core" principle, there may be >no need for explicit control points. The control point can >(should?) be an external to the language matter. The language >does not have to depend on the message processing "point" >where the adaptation is triggered. And IIRC, OPES architecture >only provides examples of possible control points. Some difficulty to understand how you trigger the adaptation then? Or we do not speak of the same thing? >>Send your wish lists. > >My wish list can be easily derived from the Sieve versus P >comparison I have posted some time ago. I want all the good >features that made the basis for that comparison :-). Idem. Due to the interest of this I would like to use the language to see how to amalgamate it in a Context Reference Center command system. This means that I will replace every word of the language by a numeric value permitting to translate it in any language. The call out server will be a CRC permiting to call on common contextual references to document or translate the content of a text/page/mail. So, I am interested that nothing in the language depends on the value/structure of the used terms. I currently use a moke-up in ASCII using Perl like variable. FYI the intent is to document the solution for second week of August to support a language description ISO (ISO 639-4) standard proposition. Thank you for your help. jfc From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Thu Jun 9 13:16:27 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA23774 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:16:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DgQzH-0000P1-IP for opes-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:38:44 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59GvVjB050306; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:57:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j59GvVrF050305; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:57:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from measurement-factory.com (measurement-factory.com [206.168.0.5]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59GvUGq050299 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 09:57:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rousskov@measurement-factory.com) Received: from pail.measurement-factory.com (nat.measurement-factory.com [206.168.0.3]) by measurement-factory.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59GvQ3a074595; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:57:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from rousskov@measurement-factory.com) To: jfcm , ietf-openproxy@imc.org Subject: Re: OPES Rules Language References: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609174948.04e69840@mail.utel.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:55:41 -0600 From: "Alex Rousskov" Organization: The Measurement Factory Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050609174948.04e69840@mail.utel.net> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (FreeBSD, build 1095) Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 68c8cc8a64a9d0402e43b8eee9fc4199 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 2005/06/09 (MDT), wrote: > Some difficulty to understand how you trigger the adaptation then? The proxy/processor configuration will have a mechanism to specify what rules/code to apply and where to apply them. Different processors will have diffierent invocation points and different specification mechanisms (e.g.,access control lists or hard-coded triggers). Alex. From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Thu Jun 9 13:19:26 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA23989 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:19:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DgR27-0000Yi-Rt for opes-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:41:42 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59H3ExO050846; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j59H3EMe050845; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:03:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59H3Emo050835 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@utel.net) Received: from [62.35.167.26] (helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DgQQy-0000Zf-Q3; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:03:13 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050609190108.0359c210@mail.utel.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:03:08 +0200 To: "Alex Rousskov" , ietf-openproxy@imc.org From: jfcm Subject: Re: OPES Rules Language In-Reply-To: References: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609174948.04e69840@mail.utel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - imc.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - utel.net Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab At 18:55 09/06/2005, Alex Rousskov wrote: >On Thu, 2005/06/09 (MDT), wrote: > >>Some difficulty to understand how you trigger the adaptation then? > >The proxy/processor configuration will have a mechanism to specify >what rules/code to apply and where to apply them. Different processors >will have diffierent invocation points and different specification >mechanisms (e.g.,access control lists or hard-coded triggers). This does not make the language universal. Objection to have both? 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From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Thu Jun 9 13:53:26 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA28724 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DgRZ5-0007OT-M6 for opes-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:15:41 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59HZ9Cr054909; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:35:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j59HZ9G5054908; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:35:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from measurement-factory.com (measurement-factory.com [206.168.0.5]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59HZ8iA054896 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:35:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rousskov@measurement-factory.com) Received: from pail.measurement-factory.com (nat.measurement-factory.com [206.168.0.3]) by measurement-factory.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59HZ73a075451; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:35:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from rousskov@measurement-factory.com) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 11:33:24 -0600 To: jfcm , ietf-openproxy@imc.org Subject: Re: OPES Rules Language References: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609174948.04e69840@mail.utel.net> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609190108.0359c210@mail.utel.net> From: "Alex Rousskov" Organization: The Measurement Factory Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050609190108.0359c210@mail.utel.net> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (FreeBSD, build 1095) Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 9ed51c9d1356100bce94f1ae4ec616a9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 2005/06/09 (MDT), wrote: > At 18:55 09/06/2005, Alex Rousskov wrote: >> On Thu, 2005/06/09 (MDT), wrote: >> >>> Some difficulty to understand how you trigger the adaptation then? >> >> The proxy/processor configuration will have a mechanism to specify >> what rules/code to apply and where to apply them. Different processors >> will have diffierent invocation points and different specification >> mechanisms (e.g.,access control lists or hard-coded triggers). > > This does not make the language universal. No language can be universal. Think about it. Somewhere the language scope ends and the language environment scope begins. For example, C++ standard does not specify when C++ programs are executed while shell scripts do not care what language the programs they run were written in. The reason to remove invocation points from the rules language is simple: all existing proxy implementations already have their configuration language that determines invocation points. Usually, it comes in a form of an ACL of some sort. Apache, Cisco, NetApp, sendmail, etc. all have that. Trying to change or replace that language is fruitless, IMHO. On the other hand, providing a universal language to describe what (if anything) happens at the selected invocation point does have a [slim] chance of being deployed because no popular implementations (related to HTTP and ICAP) have any good knobs for that. SMTP world has Sieve and Milter. > Objection to have both? > Obviously I can add them but that would be bad if the language ends to > be in an ISO standard what would be great. Sorry, I do not understand this part. Perhaps you can give a specific ISO requirement you are trying to satisfy? Alex. From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Thu Jun 9 16:45:16 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA18990 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DgUFH-000799-5A for opes-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:07:31 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59KOTk5069359; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j59KOTm9069358; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:24:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59KOSa5069347 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@utel.net) Received: from [62.35.167.26] (helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DgTZj-0001qw-5F; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 13:24:27 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050609210640.04c40440@mail.utel.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:24:19 +0200 To: "Alex Rousskov" , ietf-openproxy@imc.org From: jfcm Subject: Re: OPES Rules Language In-Reply-To: References: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609174948.04e69840@mail.utel.net> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609190108.0359c210@mail.utel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - imc.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - utel.net Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 5d7a7e767f20255fce80fa0b77fb2433 At 19:33 09/06/2005, Alex Rousskov wrote: >On Thu, 2005/06/09 (MDT), wrote: >>At 18:55 09/06/2005, Alex Rousskov wrote: >>>On Thu, 2005/06/09 (MDT), wrote: >>> >>>>Some difficulty to understand how you trigger the adaptation then? >>> >>>The proxy/processor configuration will have a mechanism to specify >>>what rules/code to apply and where to apply them. Different processors >>>will have diffierent invocation points and different specification >>>mechanisms (e.g.,access control lists or hard-coded triggers). >> >>This does not make the language universal. > >No language can be universal. Think about it. Somewhere the language >scope ends and the language environment scope begins. For example, >C++ standard does not specify when C++ programs are executed while >shell scripts do not care what language the programs they run were >written in. > >The reason to remove invocation points from the rules language >is simple: all existing proxy implementations already have their >configuration language that determines invocation points. Usually, >it comes in a form of an ACL of some sort. Apache, Cisco, NetApp, >sendmail, etc. all have that. Trying to change or replace that >language is fruitless, IMHO. > >On the other hand, providing a universal language to describe what >(if anything) happens at the selected invocation point does have a >[slim] chance of being deployed because no popular implementations >(related to HTTP and ICAP) have any good knobs for that. SMTP world >has Sieve and Milter. Let me think over that and see the implementation. >>Objection to have both? >>Obviously I can add them but that would be bad if the language ends to >>be in an ISO standard what would be great. > >Sorry, I do not understand this part. Perhaps you can give a specific >ISO requirement you are trying to satisfy? We (Internet and the world at large) have a problem with language identification. At IETF, W3C and ISO there are roughly three approaches which are fiercely disputed because the people supporting the first two have not (yet) a network vision and there is a lof of money in the first one. - one is from publishers point of view (books and programs). They start from characters (Unicode), to computer (locales), pages (XML, HTML), to a IANA language registration stewardship giving the registrant a commercial advantage. That approach uses concepts ("English", "Latin Script", ccTLD for country/market, etc.). This is OK to classify items in a cupboard or in a directory. This is operational. It should extend from 400 to 7500 languages. This should be ISO 639-3 and okayed in August. - another is ISO standard consistent. ISO 12620 defines the data elements, ISO 11179 defines the registries. We are talking of precise rules. A script is defined by its charset, a language tested by statistics on recurrent words, etc. We are no more working on concepts but on values which can be used by computers (and OPES to test the language of an unknown message/page, and massage it - translating, entering notes, classifying it, etc.). The base used in that project includes 20.000 languages. This should be ISO 639-6 and big work ahead. Both use ASCII string IDs for languages (2 or 3 for the first approach, 4 for the second one). None of them can support multilingualism. The first one is deliberately ASCII and English oriented (the table) and wants to replace RFC 3066. The second is fully open to multilingualism but work on multilingualism has not been carried yet in ISO 11179. It is supported by Govs, R&D, etc. - the last one (my team) starts from the smart-user-in-a-network's point of view. We cannot accept the first one only. The second one is OK but with some conceptual addition and a lot of wording simplification - this is complex if we want to stay fully compatible with metamodels we could have to hook. We will give all the language IDs a number (an additional column) and we index twice. So we can come from the ID number, or from a string. We make the numeric language ID an IPv6 Interface ID and the string language ID a domain name. Access is therefore very fast and proven. When we call a language (by IPv6 or by name) we call the registry of that language. The response we get give us all the registered details of the language (it can be an XML page, an ASN.1 structure, or we can add the sub-address of one element to get only one word). Addresses can retain the information or to be recursive and point to another address if the information is common or in case of update. This concept should be documented hopefully in ISO 639-4 this year or after having been demonstrated next year. My idea is to say the Sieve/P language is a language to parse a text. Let stabilize its commands as a metamodel (XML fields) conforming to the ISO 11179 standard (it is OK no problem - but careful wording). This means that we will have documented a universal way for a user in every language to enter a script to work with his texts. This kind of thing is developed in lexicons already so the concepts and tools are there. It may take time to fill all the entries (actually we need 100 entries for each script and then to refine - wikipedia could help a lot): this would be the first multilingual computer language. This means that any user, on any keyboard, could enter an save a script to have an OPES working on his language, this being documented in ISO standards. Now you realise that the OPES will use a CRC (context reference center, the system where we will locate the registry) as a call-out server. This CRC can belong to a mailing list for example. It can document a vernacular version of the language being used (dictionary, ontology, syntax, grammar, etc.). For example each time we would copy someone outside of the OPES mailing list and we use "OPES", the system could add in the language of the e-mail a foot note explaining the destinee what an OPES is and possibly correct my Franglish in readable English. Was I clear enough? For that to work, I think we need to have a simple enough language neutral to ASCII strings (commands and processed text). This is also why at this stage I would be happy to keep triggers. There are enough tricky things which may happen in language logic (bidi for example) to feel more confortable if you have more control. Obviously if it does not work I will drop the request ... but it would be great if it did: for the service provided, for the fun, for the first attempt. jfc From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Thu Jun 9 17:12:11 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA20546 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:12:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DgUfU-00045Y-3y for opes-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:34:29 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59KsCAB071748; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:54:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j59KsCIa071747; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:54:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from measurement-factory.com (measurement-factory.com [206.168.0.5]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59KsBRv071741 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 13:54:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rousskov@measurement-factory.com) Received: from pail.measurement-factory.com (nat.measurement-factory.com [206.168.0.3]) by measurement-factory.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j59KsB3a081873; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:54:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from rousskov@measurement-factory.com) To: jfcm , ietf-openproxy@imc.org Subject: Re: OPES Rules Language References: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609174948.04e69840@mail.utel.net> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609190108.0359c210@mail.utel.net> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609210640.04c40440@mail.utel.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 14:52:27 -0600 From: "Alex Rousskov" Organization: The Measurement Factory Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20050609210640.04c40440@mail.utel.net> User-Agent: Opera M2/8.0 (FreeBSD, build 1095) Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 7d33c50f3756db14428398e2bdedd581 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 2005/06/09 (MDT), wrote: > For that to work, I think we need to have a simple enough language > neutral to ASCII strings (commands and processed text). If I understand your intent correctly, there are two rather different problems here: programmer-language (keywords) neutrality and content-language (data on the wire) neutrality. P/Sieve must be neutral to the language of the data on the wire, of course. I doubt this group has enough energy and motivation to support the former; P/Sieve programmers will most likely have to use English keywords. Said that, it would be a trivial task (from technical point of view) to provide alternative keyword codings so that non-english programmers feel more confortable. For some reason, popular programming language standards do not offer that kind of flexibility (AFAIK). Alex. From rund@fadmail.com Thu Jun 9 21:01:15 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA05980; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:01:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [220.80.173.143] (helo=132.151.6.1) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DgYFB-0008PJ-5n; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:23:34 -0400 Received: from coolidge-jrii.prnt.net (HELO rhesus-hhlx.net) by bituminous-ext.damqp.net (8.9.0) with ESMTP id RHO12fwib; Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:38:26 -0100 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:32:26 +0200 From: "Emilia Goldsmith" Message-ID: <101.33e558d5.2a9NSI44@tzb.com> To: nternet-drafts@ietf.org Cc: o@ietf.org, ocm@ietf.org, oczqfrpsec-admin@ietf.org, ogrpfdhcwg-web-archive@ietf.org, olicy@ietf.org, opes-archive@ietf.org, ops-area@ietf.org, ops-chairs@ietf.org, ops-nm@ietf.org, orth.update.team@ietf.org, ounce@ietf.org, outing-discussion@ietf.org, overib-web-archive@ietf.org, owner@ietf.org Subject: Get the low rates before its late X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] X-Spam-Score: 9.7 (+++++++++) X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Hello, We tried contacting you awhile ago about your low interest morta(ge rate. 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From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Thu Jun 9 21:30:14 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA08049 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:30:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DgYgr-0002wN-Fr for opes-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:52:33 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5A1CFZx094541; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:12:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j5A1CFvL094540; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:12:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5A1CBq3094499 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:12:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@utel.net) Received: from [62.35.167.26] (helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1DgY49-0004Vf-SR; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 18:12:10 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050609231746.044431a0@mail.utel.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:12:02 +0200 To: "Alex Rousskov" , ietf-openproxy@imc.org From: jfcm Subject: Re: OPES Rules Language In-Reply-To: References: <200506082003.j58K3W8O029832@localhost.localdomain> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609174948.04e69840@mail.utel.net> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609190108.0359c210@mail.utel.net> <6.2.1.2.2.20050609210640.04c40440@mail.utel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - imc.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - utel.net Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: c1c65599517f9ac32519d043c37c5336 At 22:52 09/06/2005, Alex Rousskov wrote: >If I understand your intent correctly, there are two rather different >problems here: programmer-language (keywords) neutrality and >content-language (data on the wire) neutrality. P/Sieve must be neutral to >the language of >the data on the wire, of course. Yeap. This is the interest. >I doubt this group has enough energy and motivation to support the former; >P/Sieve programmers will most likely have to use English keywords. Said >that, it would be a trivial task (from technical point of view) to provide >alternative keyword codings so that non-english programmers feel more >confortable. For some reason, popular programming language standards do not >offer that kind of flexibility (AFAIK). Some do as C (you define functions, etc.) for ASCII version. But you have Arabic, Korean, Chinese development environments. Here the interest is to possibly support 20.000 languages, if there is someone interested in each and a way to write it :-) (far far less - but there is no reason why this does not increase a lot with the current trend). But the requirement is simple: keywords must be neutral to each other. What, I think, is no problem. This only means no fancy idea like a keyword being designed to match the begining of another keyword. The way it should work is as follows: (a) P/Sieve ASCII keyword ---> (b) numeric-universal-tag (unitag) ---> (c) P/Sieve Cyrillic Keyword. (a) is normal effort with the small provision above and an optional trigger keyword. (b) is a simple incrementation in the unitag system (will be documented in a Draft soon) with the ASCII keyword description in English and French. 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Said > that, it would be a trivial task (from technical point of view) to provide > alternative keyword codings so that non-english programmers feel more > confortable. For some reason, popular programming language standards do not > offer that kind of flexibility (AFAIK). Natural language translations of programming language keywords are generally a bad idea. It bloats the programming language specification and reduces the ability of programmers from different countries to understand each others' work. It's better to treat programming languages like mathematical notation, with a formal intrinsic meaning which is only suggested by the choice of keyword. Programmers are used to this, so it isn't a problem. The question of names defined by programmers (as opposed to keywords defined by the language specification) is much simpler. If the language source character set is specified to be unicode, then programmers can use whatever natural language they like when choosing names. 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It bloats the programming language specification > and > reduces the ability of programmers from different countries to understand > each others' work. I doubt those are the reasons. Specification bloat is a minor technical problem because the core spec remains the same and only more keyword tables are added as appendices of sorts. The understanding is not a big problem for keywords because each programmer can view the program in the language of their choice (automated translation is easy). > It's better to treat programming languages like > mathematical notation, with a formal intrinsic meaning which is only > suggested by the choice of keyword. Programmers are used to this, so it > isn't a problem. I agree, but many people are annoyed by the fact that the notation is using a foreign (to them) language, especially if it is a language of the country they tend to hate. It is not a _technical_ problem these days (it used to be when some EU folks could not type certain symbols like "{" and "}" because of 7 bit encoding conflicts). In true math, it is a lesser problem because notation is mostly symbolic or using letters from alphabets that do not belong to current "world-dominating" cultures. Also, mathematicians tend to be more reasonable than script kiddies :-). > The question of names defined by programmers (as opposed to keywords > defined by the language specification) is much simpler. If the language > source character set is specified to be unicode, then programmers can > use whatever natural language they like when choosing names. This is > standard practice these days. This practice _does_ make it difficult for programmers to understand "foreign" programs though (and no automated seamless translation is possible for non-keywords). Said that, I think that P/Sieve should be Unicode-based. I do not remember if Sieve allows Unicode (it was not a huge problem for them because they did not have variables in the core of the spec; they will now). Alex. 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not interested - http://www.lendingxid.net/r.php ----1155217_769771.sd397-- From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Sun Jun 19 18:17:05 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id SAA10815 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:17:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Dk8Tn-0007S6-2R for opes-archive@ietf.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 18:41:31 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5JLwNWR009487; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:58:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j5JLwNso009486; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:58:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5JLwLU7009442 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:58:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@utel.net) Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1Dk7o4-0005RI-82; Sun, 19 Jun 2005 14:58:20 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.2.20050619234003.051f0d60@mail.utel.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:44:57 +0200 To: "Martin Stecher" From: jfcm Subject: Re: draft-ietf-opes-smtp-use-cases-01 Cc: In-Reply-To: <75F7E67FC45F6744A7D328D41E35376D597E31@mail.webwasher.com> References: <75F7E67FC45F6744A7D328D41E35376D597E31@mail.webwasher.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - imc.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - utel.net Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 798b2e660f1819ae38035ac1d8d5e3ab On 23:09 18/06/2005, Martin Stecher said: >Hi, > >you have seen that we have published a new version of the use cases draft. >Taking the feedback from the IETF meeting, I stopped classifying the use >cases into groups. > >The introduction is still pretty similar to the -00 version. But the main >part is now a collection of some specific use cases with a more detailed >description what they do and what they require. Thank you for carrying the work! Sorry to be the unhappy one, but I feel we contributed with many more cases? I see no content massaging applications? I am not sure at all this has no security implication? Where to you address the end to end issue: if rerouting is not accepted by both end there is an obvious security leak? All the best. jfc From idette@emailaccount.com Mon Jun 20 00:38:42 2005 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA01239; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 00:38:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [222.105.4.48] (helo=132.151.6.1) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with smtp (Exim 4.33) id 1DkERB-0006De-Pc; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 01:03:11 -0400 Received: from eqnp.biz by palimb (jm.3lm) id llapysynqk with SMTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:33:56 +0600 Message-ID: <20041bjhhd3.ED8DA244AE@mailhost1d.lists.techtarget.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 22:34:56 -0700 From: "Velma Chavez" To: ogrpfdhcwg-web-archive@ietf.org Cc: olicy@ietf.org, opes-archive@ietf.org, ops-area@ietf.org, ops-chairs@ietf.org, ops-nm@ietf.org, orth.update.team@ietf.org, ounce@ietf.org, outing-discussion@ietf.org, overib-web-archive@ietf.org Subject: Your account #60Z7582 X-Mailer: KYX CP/M FNORD 5602 X-Spam-Score: 10.8 (++++++++++) X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3 Hello, We tried contacting you awhile ago about your low interest morta(ge rate. 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Thank you for your feedback. > Sorry to be the unhappy one, but I feel we contributed with > many more cases? I based the draft on the use cases collected earlier (http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/smtpusecases.html) Some examples have been combined into a single use case in the draft and some have been omitted if they are very similar to other use cases. > I see no content massaging applications? Which example of the source list (http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/smtpusecases.html) are you missing in particular? > I am not sure at all this has no security implication? Where > to you address the end to end issue: if rerouting is not > accepted by both end there is an obvious security leak? There are many security considerations for OPES. We handled them in an application agnostic form in RFC 3837 which this draft is referring to. Describing use cases of existing and future email filtering use cases that could potentially be implemented by OPES does not introduce new security implications beyond the RFC 3837, see section 2.2 of that RFC "OPES Flow Application Level Threats" in particular. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01C9_01C57587.54225CA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 03fb21b15d5177c512a4caa19876f30a This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C9_01C57587.54225CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a few comments. 1) Consistency comment, =20 section 3.1.1 says: (S: means sender, R: means recipient):=20 I think most RFC examples, if not all, use the "S - server, C: - = client" nomenclature. The current usage makes one think too hard :-) It also says: The sender is generating commands and the recipient=20 is generating replies.=20 This think it should be rephrased: =20 The client (C:) is issueing SMTP commands and the=20 server (S:) is generating responses. and rephrase the reminding paragraph accordingly. 2) General Comment While I think it is nice to describe specific 'examples' on how OPES may = be used in SMTP, I think the more important consideration is the = interface considerations. =20 The sky is the limit on how people will hook into external envelope = (2821) and payload (2822) analyzers, for example, I can cite off hand = maybe 3-4 additional usages, but it all apply in the same way. Generically, from a marketing standpoint, one can simply say that OPES = can be uses for: - CRM applications=20 - Help Desk/Support Application - AVS applications etc, etc. But what is common among all, is how the input and output will be done = and what will be other possible technical considerations such as the one = we discussed here in regards to SMTP timeouts. This what would be = important to me. For example, this document can outline and summarized what are the = process environment variables: CIP - Connection IP address CDN - Client Domain Name (issued at HELO/EHLO) RP - Return Path (issued at MAIL FROM) FP - Forwarding Path (issued at RCPT TO) PL - Payload (issed at DATA) Those are the variables for SMTP. So we can model the SMTP OPES usage = as as a function of one or more of these variables: response =3D OPES(CIP, CDN, RP, FP, PL) We have in place a similar model we call EPV (End Point Validation) = which are "hooks" applied at each state: connect: response =3D EPV-CONNET(CIP)=20 EHLO/HELO: response =3D EPV-HELO(CIP,CDN) MAIL FROM: response =3D EPV-MFROM(CIP,CDN,RP) RCPT TO: response =3D EPV-RCPT(CIP,CDN,RP,FP) DATA: response =3D EPV-DATA(CIP,CDN,RP,FP,PL) You also have other considerations such as POST SMTP OPES usages. The = above can be considered as dynamic SMTP OPES usages. But we also have = the possibility where OPES can be used in post SMTP operations. I understand that this might be too detailed for what you were looking = for here, but seeing how it fits from a functional model standpoint will = make life easier for many implementations who will want to see how to = apply OPES in SMTP generically. --=20 Hector Santos, Santronics Software, Inc. http://www.santronics.com ---- Original Message -----=20 From: "Martin Stecher" To: "OPES WG (E-Mail)" Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 5:09 PM Subject: draft-ietf-opes-smtp-use-cases-01 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > you have seen that we have published a new version of the use cases = draft. > Taking the feedback from the IETF meeting, I stopped classifying the = use cases into groups. >=20 > The introduction is still pretty similar to the -00 version. But the = main part is now a collection of some specific use cases with a more = detailed description what they do and what they require. >=20 > No more details about how OCP/SMTP could look like. >=20 > Please have a look and comment. > I guess we would like to get this milestone done asap. Your feedback = is needed. >=20 > If you prefer to read the HTML version of the draft, you'll find one = on my private OPES page. > http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/ = (http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/smtp-usecases.html) >=20 > Regards > Martin >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_01C9_01C57587.54225CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a few = comments.

1)=20 Consistency comment, 

section 3.1.1 = says:

   (S:=20 means sender, R: means recipient):

I think most RFC examples, if = not=20 all, use the "S - server,  C: - client" nomenclature.   = The=20 current usage makes one think too hard :-)

It also = says:

 =20 The sender is generating commands and the recipient
  is generating = replies.=20

This think it should be=20 rephrased:
    
  The client (C:) is = issueing SMTP commands and the
  server (S:) = is generating=20 responses.
 
and rephrase the reminding = paragraph=20 accordingly.

2) General Comment

While I think it is nice to describe = specific=20 'examples' on how OPES may be used in SMTP,   I think the more = important consideration is the interface considerations.  =

The sky=20 is the limit on how people will hook into external envelope (2821) and = payload=20 (2822) analyzers,  for example, I can cite off hand maybe 3-4 = additional=20 usages, but it all apply in the same way.

Generically, from a = marketing=20 standpoint, one can simply say that OPES can be uses=20 for:

    - CRM applications
    = - Help=20 Desk/Support Application
    - AVS = applications

etc,=20 etc.

But what is common among all, is how the input and output = will be=20 done and what will be other possible technical considerations such as = the one we=20 discussed here in regards to SMTP timeouts.  This what would be = important=20 to me.

For example, this document can outline and summarized what = are the=20 process environment variables:

    CIP -  = Connection=20 IP address
    CDN - Client Domain Name (issued at=20 HELO/EHLO)
    RP  - Return Path (issued at MAIL=20 FROM)
    FP - Forwarding Path (issued at RCPT=20 TO)
    PL - Payload (issed at DATA)

Those are = the=20 variables for SMTP.  So we can model the SMTP OPES usage as as a = function=20 of one or more of these variables:

  response =3D OPES(CIP, = CDN, RP,=20 FP, PL)

We have in place a similar model we call EPV (End Point=20 Validation) which are "hooks" applied at each=20 state:

connect:   response =3D EPV-CONNET(CIP) =
EHLO/HELO:=20 response =3D EPV-HELO(CIP,CDN)
MAIL FROM: response =3D=20 EPV-MFROM(CIP,CDN,RP)
RCPT TO:   response =3D=20 EPV-RCPT(CIP,CDN,RP,FP)
DATA:      response = =3D=20 EPV-DATA(CIP,CDN,RP,FP,PL)

You also have other considerations = such as=20 POST SMTP OPES usages. The above can be considered as dynamic SMTP OPES=20 usages.   But we also have the possibility where OPES can be = used in=20 post SMTP operations.

I understand that this might be too = detailed for=20 what you were looking for here, but seeing how it fits from a functional = model=20 standpoint will make life easier for many implementations who will want = to see=20 how to apply OPES in SMTP generically.

--
Hector Santos, = Santronics=20 Software, Inc.
http://www.santronics.com


---- Original = Message=20 -----
From: "Martin Stecher" = <martin.stecher@webwasher.com>
To:=20 "OPES WG (E-Mail)" <ietf-openproxy@imc.org>
Sent: Saturday, = June 18,=20 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: = draft-ietf-opes-smtp-use-cases-01


>=20
> Hi,
>
> you have seen that we have published a new = version=20 of the use cases draft.
> Taking the feedback from the IETF = meeting, I=20 stopped classifying the use cases into groups.
>
> The = introduction=20 is still pretty similar to the -00 version. But the main part is now a=20 collection of some specific use cases with a more detailed description = what they=20 do and what they require.
>
> No more details about how = OCP/SMTP=20 could look like.
>
> Please have a look and = comment.
> I=20 guess we would like to get this milestone done asap. Your feedback is=20 needed.
>
> If you prefer to read the HTML version of the = draft,=20 you'll find one on my private OPES page.
>=20 http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/ =20 (http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/smtp-usecases.html)
>
>=20 Regards
> Martin
>
>
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Thank you. > 1) Consistency comment, > > section 3.1.1 says: > > (S: means sender, R: means recipient): > > I think most RFC examples, if not all, use the "S - server, C: - client" nomenclature. > The current usage makes one think too hard :-) > > It also says: > > The sender is generating commands and the recipient > is generating replies. > > This think it should be rephrased: > > The client (C:) is issueing SMTP commands and the > server (S:) is generating responses. > > and rephrase the reminding paragraph accordingly. Good hint. I will change accordingly. > > 2) General Comment > > While I think it is nice to describe specific 'examples' on how OPES may be used in SMTP, > I think the more important consideration is the interface considerations. > [...] Certainly, interface considerations are most important and the fun stuff to talk about when we want to create the OCP/SMTP profile. The -00 version of the draft wanted to prepare that work and went the direction you discribe. 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There is an archive of the mailing list. See http://www.imc.org/ietf-openproxy/index.html The entries in the collected sample list (http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/smtpusecases.html) link to the email in that archive in which they have been proposed. > I may be wrong I do not see content translations, vote > organisation, notes added to text (I am pushing right now > hard so we are not blocked by WG-ltru language tagging which > do not care about other applications - they name them troll > :-) and to keep CRC (Community/Context Reference/Relational > Centers) and other extended services and externet aspects in > the IETF loop). Text related services must use language tags > and the callout servers must rely on CRCs. Content translation was already discussed in RFC3752. Translation of the content is an application agnostic OPES use case that always applies. The introduction of this SMTP use cases draft refers to RFC3752 and says: This work focus on OPES for SMTP [8] use cases, whereby, additional use cases and enhancements to the types of OPES services defined in [2] are provided. > [...] > > At 09:58 20/06/2005, Martin Stecher wrote: > >(And btw, it does not need both ends to accept the selected > routing of > >an email) > > This is the security problem. It is an SMTP issue. Routing selection is done by SMTP agents today and not introduced by OPES. We are not here to fix SMTP. The callout server may give the OPES processor some input for the routing decision it has to do anyway. The general threats that OPES introduces here are described in RFC3837. 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We can argue for years. You see OPES as a value added on protocol while I see them as extended services. The important point is that we may get out of all this with some system and go ahead. Both ways are parallel and have cons and pros in the current IETF context. Its "Go" for me. Cheers. jfc On 12:01 21/06/2005, Martin Stecher said: >Hi, > > > I do not recall all the examples and my computer lost me most > > of old mails. > >There is an archive of the mailing list. See >http://www.imc.org/ietf-openproxy/index.html >The entries in the collected sample list >(http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/smtpusecases.html) >link to the email in that archive in which they have been proposed. > > > I may be wrong I do not see content translations, vote > > organisation, notes added to text (I am pushing right now > > hard so we are not blocked by WG-ltru language tagging which > > do not care about other applications - they name them troll > > :-) and to keep CRC (Community/Context Reference/Relational > > Centers) and other extended services and externet aspects in > > the IETF loop). Text related services must use language tags > > and the callout servers must rely on CRCs. > >Content translation was already discussed in RFC3752. >Translation of the content is an application agnostic OPES >use case that always applies. >The introduction of this SMTP use cases draft refers to RFC3752 >and says: > This work focus on OPES for SMTP [8] use cases, > whereby, additional use cases and enhancements to the types of OPES > services defined in [2] are provided. > > > [...] > > > > At 09:58 20/06/2005, Martin Stecher wrote: > > >(And btw, it does not need both ends to accept the selected > > routing of > > >an email) > > > > This is the security problem. > >It is an SMTP issue. Routing selection is done by SMTP agents today >and not introduced by OPES. We are not here to fix SMTP. >The callout server may give the OPES processor some input for the >routing decision it has to do anyway. 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