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It still has some sections marked as "To be done", especially Examples, Advices and SMTP extension handling. The Tracing and Bypass idea will need much more discussion here on the list. A first approach plus some notes and comments can be found in the draft. Current snapshots can be found here: http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/smtp.txt or http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/smtp.html If you do not see a show stopper we can submit this as an initial draft "draft-ietf-opes-smtp-00" for discussion and so meet the cut-off date. Regards Martin From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Thu Oct 13 11:44:51 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EQ5GD-0004DX-9w for opes-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:44:51 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id LAA24753 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EQ5Qf-0007GW-2N for opes-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:55:43 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9DFQLT7016458; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:26:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9DFQLZo016457; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:26:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail2.webwasher.com (wwsmtp2.webwasher.com [213.70.80.11]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9DFQJtD016403 for ; Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martin.stecher@WEBWASHER.com) Received: from mail.WEBWASHER.COM [192.168.0.251] by mail2.webwasher.com id 400GOGS5 outgoing id 400GOGS5; 13 Oct 2005 17:26:09 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6556.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: draft-ietf-opes-smtp-00 candidate Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:26:08 +0200 Message-ID: <75F7E67FC45F6744A7D328D41E35376D8C8C82@mail.webwasher.com> Thread-Topic: draft-ietf-opes-smtp-00 candidate Thread-Index: AcXPOE6bp92r2oZSTd+MBZ9mc6xdMQA0XsfA From: "Martin Stecher" To: "OPES Group" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9DFQLtD016452 Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We added more meat to sections 3.2.5 Header-List 3.2.6 Negotiation Examples 3.4 SMTP Extension handling Updated files http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/smtp.txt and http://www.martin-stecher.de/opes/smtp.html If nothing comes up, we will publish the current version as initial draft tomorrow morning. 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I missed shouting carefully..
Haven't you disliked reading?.
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Did those students miss eating last winter?.
Don't you regret eating about once a week?.
I could go on and on, but I won't. We have many programs the children love. But I would give them ALL up to keep my BORING noun program. I thank THE PARENT daily for her insight..
Is the scientist missing praying?.
That farmer is not missing reading..
Don't you practice dancing as often as possible?.
5.
cheese burger and cheese fries .... mmmmm.
Haven't you liked walking?.
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That flight attendant is not missing playing below the bridge at this exact moment..
Some store clerks like working in London..
Betty Sue wasn't enjoying working..
Did those students miss eating last winter?.
John was enjoying sleeping near the tree.. From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Wed Oct 19 12:19:48 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ESGfL-00083p-VK for opes-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:19:48 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA26371 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ESGr3-0008Qy-6a for opes-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:31:57 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JG4gA7081746; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9JG4gbO081745; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JG4fqT081739 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from markus@mhof.com) Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-2-9.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by dirty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9JG4fXJ088727 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com (bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.160.8]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JG4a0U092368 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:04:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [135.112.116.14] (biena.ho.lucent.com [135.112.116.14]) by bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JG4ZEx024260 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <43566E90.90101@mhof.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:04:32 -0400 From: Markus Hofmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4.1 (Windows/20051006) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-openproxy@imc.org Subject: Re: Request for agenda items at IETF 64 References: <4349168E.4050705@mhof.com> <21822625.1129744607@[192.168.100.57]> In-Reply-To: <21822625.1129744607@[192.168.100.57]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 244a2fd369eaf00ce6820a760a3de2e8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, Clemens and Martin did a great job of getting our protocol work started - big thanks. We now need to move this forward by starting to address open issues. From the lack of feedback on the list, should we assume that no one has any issues with the proposal, that we're right on track and can quickly move forward to submit to IESG? If not, please speak up *now*. We also need to find someone to lead through the draft and the discussion in Vancouver. Otherwise we don't need a meeting there. Please let Tony and/or me know of you're available. Thanks, Markus Clemens Perz wrote: > > Dear Members, > > the draft on SMTP adaption with OPES has been released and I hope you > all had fun reading it - just as much as Martin and I liked writing it. > > Regrettably, none of us two can come to Vancouver personally. But we are > hoping, that many of you attend the meeting and that we find someone who > is willing to present the draft. We will provide the slides, but we need > someone to stand up and shout for us. > > Who could it be? > > Greetings, > > Clemens > > > --On Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2005 09:09 -0400 Markus Hofmann > wrote: > >> >> Folks, >> >> we're scheduled for a one hour meeting at the upcoming IETF meeting in >> Vancouver. Please send your agenda item requests to Tony and me ASAP. >> >> You find a *tentative* agenda for our meeting at >> http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/05nov/agenda/opes.txt. >> >> Martin, Clemens - it would be important that one of you be available to >> present the OCP/SMTP draft (soon to be published). >> >> Hilarie - do you intend to submit a draft on the rules language and talk >> to it at the meeting? >> >> Everyone - anything else? >> >> Thanks, >> Markus >> > > > From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Wed Oct 19 12:13:08 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ESGYt-0002Fu-TD for opes-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:13:08 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA25601 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ESGkf-000866-4h for opes-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:25:17 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JFutpe080517; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9JFutvN080516; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:56:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.allaboutit.lu (mail.allaboutit.lu [198.22.51.69]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JFusri080507 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cperz@allaboutit.lu) Received: from ingate.allaboutit.lu (newgate [213.135.228.43]) by mail.allaboutit.lu (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j9JFtv5P023384 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:55:59 +0200 Received: from [192.168.100.57] (aai-wsip-57.allaboutit.lu [192.168.100.57]) by ingate.allaboutit.lu (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JFumI5000597 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:56:48 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:56:47 +0200 From: Clemens Perz To: ietf-openproxy@imc.org Subject: Re: Request for agenda items at IETF 64 Message-ID: <21822625.1129744607@[192.168.100.57]> In-Reply-To: <4349168E.4050705@mhof.com> References: <4349168E.4050705@mhof.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.0.3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Scan-Signature: cab78e1e39c4b328567edb48482b6a69 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Members, the draft on SMTP adaption with OPES has been released and I hope you all had fun reading it - just as much as Martin and I liked writing it. Regrettably, none of us two can come to Vancouver personally. But we are hoping, that many of you attend the meeting and that we find someone who is willing to present the draft. We will provide the slides, but we need someone to stand up and shout for us. Who could it be? Greetings, Clemens --On Sonntag, 9. Oktober 2005 09:09 -0400 Markus Hofmann wrote: > > Folks, > > we're scheduled for a one hour meeting at the upcoming IETF meeting in > Vancouver. Please send your agenda item requests to Tony and me ASAP. > > You find a *tentative* agenda for our meeting at > http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/05nov/agenda/opes.txt. > > Martin, Clemens - it would be important that one of you be available to > present the OCP/SMTP draft (soon to be published). > > Hilarie - do you intend to submit a draft on the rules language and talk > to it at the meeting? > > Everyone - anything else? > > Thanks, > Markus > From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Wed Oct 19 13:35:17 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ESHqP-0006xO-EN for opes-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:35:17 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA00386 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ESI29-000299-Fs for opes-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:47:27 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JH8vZ5091803; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9JH8vvU091802; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:08:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from smtp-out.google.com (smtp-out.google.com [216.239.45.12]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JH8unW091762 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:08:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robsiemb@google.com) Received: from death.corp.google.com (death.corp.google.com [172.24.0.123]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id j9JH8oFq019244 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:08:50 -0700 Received: from smtp-out2.google.com (fpe11.prod.google.com [10.253.5.11]) by death.corp.google.com with ESMTP id j9JH7feu015029 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:08:45 -0700 Received: by smtp-out2.google.com with SMTP id 11so30506fpe for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.253.5.11 with SMTP id 11mr32596fpe; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.253.5.19 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5b93232d0510191008i5125b7efg1088c92fc8df1b99@mail.google.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:38:44 +0530 From: Rob Siemborski To: Markus Hofmann Subject: Re: Request for agenda items at IETF 64 Cc: ietf-openproxy@imc.org In-Reply-To: <43566E90.90101@mhof.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <4349168E.4050705@mhof.com> <21822625.1129744607@192.168.100.57> <43566E90.90101@mhof.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by above.proper.com id j9JH8unW091796 Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: de4f315c9369b71d7dd5909b42224370 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 10/19/05, Markus Hofmann wrote: > From the lack of feedback on the list, should we assume that no one has > any issues with the proposal, that we're right on track and can quickly > move forward to submit to IESG? If not, please speak up *now*. Given the lack of traffic on this list (and indeed, the amount of time it took to find someone to write this draft) I highly doubt this is a safe assumption. -Rob -- Rob Siemborski | PGP:0x5CE32FCC | robsiemb@google.com Software Engineer | | 650-623-6925 From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Wed Oct 19 14:10:40 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ESIOe-0006gv-QM for opes-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:10:40 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA03039 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ESIaR-0003Qw-BU for opes-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:22:51 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JHrhZ4096573; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:53:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9JHrhqZ096572; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:53:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from crufty.research.bell-labs.com (crufty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.49]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JHrgTM096565 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:53:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from markus@mhof.com) Received: from scummy.research.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-2-10.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.10]) by crufty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j9JHrW1O059500; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com (bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com [135.180.160.8]) by scummy.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JHrQ7d073730; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [135.112.116.14] (biena.ho.lucent.com [135.112.116.14]) by bronx.dnrc.bell-labs.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9JHrQEx024656; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <43568813.3040903@mhof.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:53:23 -0400 From: Markus Hofmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4.1 (Windows/20051006) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Siemborski CC: ietf-openproxy@imc.org Subject: Re: Request for agenda items at IETF 64 References: <4349168E.4050705@mhof.com> <21822625.1129744607@192.168.100.57> <43566E90.90101@mhof.com> <5b93232d0510191008i5125b7efg1088c92fc8df1b99@mail.google.com> In-Reply-To: <5b93232d0510191008i5125b7efg1088c92fc8df1b99@mail.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 68c8cc8a64a9d0402e43b8eee9fc4199 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob Siemborski wrote: > Given the lack of traffic on this list (and indeed, the amount of time > it took to find someone to write this draft) I highly doubt this is a > safe assumption. Then please speak up. Thanks, Markus From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Wed Oct 19 20:52:42 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ESOfi-00014L-Mo for opes-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:52:42 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA29879 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ESOrU-0001vq-PU for opes-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:04:57 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9K0ZYfP042256; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:35:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9K0ZYJ4042255; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:35:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from montage.altserver.com (montage.altserver.com [63.247.74.122]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9K0ZYsx042249 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:35:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from info@utel.net) Received: from ver78-2-82-241-91-24.fbx.proxad.net ([82.241.91.24] helo=jfc.afrac.org) by montage.altserver.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.44) id 1ESOP3-00088d-PR; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:35:30 -0700 Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.2.20051020021956.06cd3c90@mail.utel.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 02:22:54 +0200 To: Markus Hofmann , Rob Siemborski From: jfcm Subject: Re: Request for agenda items at IETF 64 Cc: ietf-openproxy@imc.org In-Reply-To: <43568813.3040903@mhof.com> References: <4349168E.4050705@mhof.com> <21822625.1129744607@192.168.100.57> <43566E90.90101@mhof.com> <5b93232d0510191008i5125b7efg1088c92fc8df1b99@mail.google.com> <43568813.3040903@mhof.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - montage.altserver.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - imc.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - utel.net Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: d6b246023072368de71562c0ab503126 At 19:53 19/10/2005, Markus Hofmann wrote: >Rob Siemborski wrote: > >>Given the lack of traffic on this list (and indeed, the amount of time >>it took to find someone to write this draft) I highly doubt this is a >>safe assumption. > >Then please speak up. could someone be so kind as to give the URL of the draft? thank you. Markus, could you give us some time? May be a good thing to run a Last Call? It cannot hurt in the report to IESG and gives us an incentive to review the text within 15 days? jfc From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Wed Oct 19 21:44:26 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ESPTm-0007Z6-2j for opes-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:44:26 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA02602 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ESPfY-0003RL-FE for opes-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:56:41 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9K1SPC9046690; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:28:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9K1SPAU046689; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:28:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net (sccrmhc13.comcast.net [63.240.77.83]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9K1SOA1046660 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:28:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from markus@mhof.com) Received: from [135.104.20.68] (unknown[135.104.20.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with ESMTP id <2005102001273601300svl9ce>; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:27:40 +0000 Message-ID: <4356F291.2070704@mhof.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:27:45 -0400 From: Markus Hofmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4.1 (Windows/20051006) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-openproxy@imc.org Subject: Re: Request for agenda items at IETF 64 References: <4349168E.4050705@mhof.com> <21822625.1129744607@192.168.100.57> <43566E90.90101@mhof.com> <5b93232d0510191008i5125b7efg1088c92fc8df1b99@mail.google.com> <43568813.3040903@mhof.com> <6.2.3.4.2.20051020021956.06cd3c90@mail.utel.net> In-Reply-To: <6.2.3.4.2.20051020021956.06cd3c90@mail.utel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 93238566e09e6e262849b4f805833007 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jfcm wrote: > could someone be so kind as to give the URL of the draft? > thank you. http://ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-opes-smtp-00.txt > Markus, could you give us some time? May be a good thing to run a Last > Call? It cannot hurt in the report to IESG and gives us an incentive to > review the text within 15 days? For sure. The goal is to have a list of issues that we can discuss in Vancouver. This only works, of course, if folks send *constructive* comments to the mailing list beforehand. We need a *discussion* now. In the unexpected case that no one raises any issues, the next logical step is to submit to IESG. But certainly not before Vancouver. [And, honestly, I cannot imagine that no one has any comments...]. Thanks, Markus From owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Wed Oct 19 21:49:09 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1ESPYL-0001Fg-8J for opes-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:49:09 -0400 Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id VAA02808 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from above.proper.com ([208.184.76.39]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ESPkA-0003co-PS for opes-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:01:24 -0400 Received: from above.proper.com (localhost.vpnc.org [127.0.0.1]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9K1YRU1047070; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:34:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9/Submit) id j9K1YRFI047069; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:34:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: above.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by above.proper.com (8.12.11/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j9K1YQbb047052 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 18:34:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from markus@mhof.com) Received: from [135.104.20.68] (unknown[135.104.20.68]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20051020013340012001kseqe>; Thu, 20 Oct 2005 01:33:41 +0000 Message-ID: <4356F3F2.7000206@mhof.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:33:38 -0400 From: Markus Hofmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.4.1 (Windows/20051006) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-openproxy@imc.org Subject: Re: Rules Language References: <200508100458.j7A4wCeM018269@localhost.localdomain> <1123882089.81731.47.camel@pail.measurement-factory.com> In-Reply-To: <1123882089.81731.47.camel@pail.measurement-factory.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-openproxy@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Scan-Signature: 244a2fd369eaf00ce6820a760a3de2e8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, the email below seems to be the last email/action we saw on the rules language. This was more than two months ago. Given that we're already far behind our deliverables, it seems logical that we suggest to remove this work item from the charter. Unless someone volunteers by Friday, 10/28/2005, 5pm EDT to take ownership of this work item and make progress before Vancouver, I'll ask our AD and the IESG to remove this work item from our charter. [Please note, that we already delayed this work item from the first charter]. Thanks, Markus Alex Rousskov wrote: > On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 22:58 -0600, The Purple Streak, Hilarie Orman > wrote: > >> http://www.purplestreak.com/ietf-opes/draft-ietf-opes-rules-language-hopalong-00.txt >> >> 1. Applicable to partial messages (packet-by-packet) > > I would remove the references to "packets" from the draft. 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<809z383w.0300341@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 06:42:19 -0600 From: "Alonzo Quinn" User-Agent: Apple Mail (2.728) X-PGP-Key: 4sXfocLatX9lyj8FTLve44z7YJDU4azk0puLsbDq2dmeHEcCcVYErJrVThKYMRlt== X-Load: 32% MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nsis@ietf.org Subject: Pre-approved Application #GWJNRJ0904789 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------AttPart_17367969==.OLA" X-Spam-Score: 1.8 (+) X-Scan-Signature: d890c9ddd0b0a61e8c597ad30c1c2176 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AttPart_17367969==.OLA Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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