From Donald.Smith@CenturyLink.com Fri Feb 1 09:12:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B3D21F8EAF for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:12:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zWkX16WEs+fn for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sudnp799.qwest.com (sudnp799.qwest.com [155.70.32.99]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D85C21F8EAA for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 09:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lxdenvmpc030.qintra.com (lxdenvmpc030.qintra.com [10.1.51.30]) by sudnp799.qwest.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r11HCbaD012301 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:12:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from lxdenvmpc030.qintra.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSA (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D961E0080; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:12:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from sudnp797.qintra.com (unknown [151.119.91.93]) by lxdenvmpc030.qintra.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B511E006D; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:12:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from sudnp797.qintra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sudnp797.qintra.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r11HCWOo016108; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:12:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from vddcwhubex502.ctl.intranet (vddcwhubex502.qintra.com [151.119.128.29]) by sudnp797.qintra.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r11HCRm5015999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:12:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from PDDCWMBXEX503.ctl.intranet ([fe80::9033:ef22:df02:32a9]) by vddcwhubex502.ctl.intranet ([2002:9777:801d::9777:801d]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:12:29 -0700 From: "Smith, Donald" To: "'Will Liu (Shucheng)'" , "'warren@kumari.net'" Thread-Topic: [OPSEC] Fwd: Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets Thread-Index: AQHOAAXuVP52Xb/r7kCaQIPgdrQCQphkLm+QgAEQDkA= Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:12:28 +0000 Message-ID: <68EFACB32CF4464298EA2779B058889D0A2BE716@PDDCWMBXEX503.ctl.intranet> References: <510AF609.5080802@si6networks.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [151.119.128.8] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: 'Fernando Gont' , "'opsec@ietf.org'" Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Fwd: Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:12:43 -0000 I am personally not aware of any relevant IPR.=20 "Pampers use multiple layers of protection to prevent leakage. Rommel used = defense in depth to defend European fortresses." (A.White) Donald.Smith@Cen= turyLink.com >-----Original Message----- >From: opsec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:opsec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >Of Will Liu (Shucheng) >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:02 PM >To: warren@kumari.net >Cc: Fernando Gont; opsec@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Fwd: Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf- >opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets > >Hi, Warren, > >Sorry for being late. >I'm personally not aware of any relevant IPR. Thanks. > >Regards, >Will > >> -------- Original Message -------- >> From: Warren Kumari >> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:39:23 -0500 >> Cc: Warren Kumari >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> Message-Id: >> References: >> To: opsec@ietf.org , >> draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets@tools.ietf.org >> , >opsec >> chairs >> Subject: Fwd: Reminder about IPR relating to >> draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets >> >> For some reason this seems to have been eaten by the mailer... >> >> Resending... >> >> W >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> > From: Warren Kumari >> > Subject: Reminder about IPR relating to >> draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets >> > Date: January 24, 2013 12:02:07 PM EST >> > To: "opsec@ietf.org" , >> draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets@tools.ietf.org, opsec >chairs >> >> > Cc: Warren Kumari >> > >> > Dear OpSec WG, >> > >> > Be not alarmed. >> > This email was created to satisfy RFC 6702 "Promoting Compliance >with >> Intellectual Property Rights (IPR)" >(http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc6702.txt). >> > >> > We are doing the IPR reminder in parallel with the WGLC so that we >have >> all our ducks in a row... >> > >> > Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to >> draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets? If so, has this IPR >been >> disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? >> > (See RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669, and 5378 for more details.) >> > >> > If you are a document author or listed contributor on this document, >> please reply to this email regardless of whether or not you are >personally >> aware of any relevant IPR. We might not be able to advance this >document >> to the next stage until we have received a reply from each author and >listed >> contributor. >> > >> > If you are on the OpSec WG email list but are not an author or >listed >> contributor for this document, you are reminded of your opportunity >for a >> voluntary IPR disclosure under BCP 79. Please do not reply unless you >want >> to make such a voluntary disclosure. >> > >> > Online tools for filing IPR disclosures can be found at >> . >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Warren Kumari >> > (as OpSec WG co-chair) >> > >> > -- >> > "I think perhaps the most important problem is that we are trying to >> understand the fundamental workings of the universe via a language >devised >> for telling one another when the best fruit is." --Terry Prachett >> > >> > >> >> -- >> "I think perhaps the most important problem is that we are trying to >> understand the fundamental workings of the universe via a language >> devised for telling one another when the best fruit is." --Terry >Prachett >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >OPSEC mailing list >OPSEC@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec From warren@kumari.net Fri Feb 1 17:44:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B5C21E8083 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:44:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.608 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.608 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.009, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fZFnP8RdTVvE for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:44:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (smtp1.kumari.net [204.194.22.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF42421E8063 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 17:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.187] (unknown [64.13.52.115]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C7651B40639; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 20:44:04 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) From: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: <510B0531.10208@si6networks.com> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 20:44:03 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <510B0531.10208@si6networks.com> To: Fernando Gont X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: "draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets@tools.ietf.org" , "opsec@ietf.org" , opsec chairs , Warren Kumari Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Fwd: Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 01:44:06 -0000 On Jan 31, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Fernando Gont = wrote: > Folks, >=20 > As noted below, I'm not aware of any relevant IPR. >=20 > That said, is it possible/desirable for these questions to be > asked/answered off-list? (and then the results posted on list) I think that for maximum transparency these are supposed to be / should = be done onlist. As well as getting each author / contributor to explicitly state that = they have no IRP, it also reminds others to speak up if they know of = any=85 >=20 > -- I must admit that the subject kind of scared me into "who the h* > filed an IPR on this document?" :-) Fair enough -- the ams thing has happened to me a few times=85 I'll try = to remember to reword the subject line in the future to avoid the = startle factor.. >=20 >=20 > On 01/31/2013 04:39 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: >>> Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to >>> draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets? >=20 > No. And I'd be surprised if there was (is that even possible)? In the crazy world of IPR it seems that almost anything is possible=85. W >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Best regards, > --=20 > Fernando Gont > SI6 Networks > e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com > PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec >=20 -- "Let's just say that if complete and utter chaos was lightning, he'd be = the sort to stand on a hilltop in a thunderstorm wearing wet copper = armour and shouting 'All gods are bastards'." -- Rincewind discussing Twoflower (Terry Pratchett, The Colour of = Magic) From sm@elandsys.com Fri Feb 1 22:09:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D3921F8F6A for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 22:09:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.012, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nF4+6hJdPp8w for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 22:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D40A21F8F65 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2013 22:09:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from SUBMAN.elandsys.com ([197.224.156.161]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1269Z9Y019776 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 1 Feb 2013 22:09:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1359785387; bh=6apOasSg/4l1+RkMEHzKucFzU78kEQHw7W3biO1XYHs=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=xgFjNhkV+mJrIRU7ck6ko56bhniIijdr4+yvFko63brxea6YflpmXXTZsIFjCtsqt jjGFvUaVFygNwY5xSbcHenVL72ysr79c6xSZaUQQQ/DQ172CTpq8kH4HnDQrDcrJqe 4IYcP0Xr/wJUiB5d30e0zPo4PS+hQ3sa2UFOOFJE= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1359785387; i=@elandsys.com; bh=6apOasSg/4l1+RkMEHzKucFzU78kEQHw7W3biO1XYHs=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=hQmO4mdrIFG1R8mfPINrWfu6i4oFRDKOkmax384gVjF+puVkcebklqy94WYa9WNNA +Z/AwOcWvvVV32sqxMRGu/Y60Ye2LqWe0K0o9TCNjkuQOGiZFCfbV0QnmZaCp0a0L4 AIqYWS2+qReCEXmGQtOq3g4uHHcLVXAmyT+YHMvk= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130201215502.09a6a730@resistor.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 22:03:33 -0800 To: Warren Kumari From: S Moonesamy In-Reply-To: References: <510B0531.10208@si6networks.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 05:47:53 -0800 Cc: OpSec@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Fwd: Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2013 06:09:51 -0000 Hi Warren, At 17:44 01-02-2013, Warren Kumari wrote: >Fair enough -- the ams thing has happened to me=20 >a few times=85 I'll try to remember to reword the=20 >subject line in the future to avoid the startle factor.. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-nomcom/current/msg00456.html Regards, S. 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--_000_67832B1175062E48926BF3CB27C49B240C87F80Fxmbalnx12ciscoc_-- From warren@kumari.net Tue Feb 12 12:13:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D22B21F8C51 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:13:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.789 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.789 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.190, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zWdltzWrxj9y for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:13:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (smtp1.kumari.net [204.194.22.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB07F21F89DA for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:13:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.136] (unknown [66.84.81.126]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CFC101B403BA; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:13:54 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) From: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:13:53 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <05A89A20-7639-49BC-AB18-CF150590F7AA@kumari.net> References: <0DF8F7D8-01EF-44AC-9ABB-A48D7E4855FC@kumari.net> <99E981C1-88DA-4BED-9E1C-8914BB271223@kumari.net> To: opsec@ietf.org, opsec chairs X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: Warren Kumari Subject: Re: [OPSEC] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets-02 X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:13:59 -0000 The WGLC concluded on Feb 1st, and the chairs judge there to be = consensus on progressing the document=85 Authors -- I believe that there were some comments / nits that you = wanted to fold in. Please do so. We will then give the WG three or four = days just to make sure that the changes haven't materially affected the = meaning, and then ship it to the IESG=85 Thank you everyone... W On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: >=20 > On Jan 22, 2013, at 3:17 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> On Jan 10, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Warren Kumari = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hello OpSec! >>>=20 >>> This starts a working group last call for = draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets-02 -- "Security = Implications of IPv6 on IPv4 Networks" >>>=20 >>> The draft is available at = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets= -02 and = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv= 4-nets/=20 >>>=20 >>> Please review this draft to see if you think it is ready for = publication. Send comments to the list. =20 >>>=20 >>> The WGLC will end on 25th January 2013. >>=20 >> This is a reminder to please provide feedback on this draft -- so far = I do not think we have enough feedback to call consensus. >> Thanks to the folk we do have feedback from; Wes, Simon and Rama=85 >=20 > And another reminder -- we are extending the WGLC to Feb 1st -- but, = feel *free* to get your comments in sooner than that! >=20 > W >=20 >>=20 >> W >>=20 >>>=20 >>> --Warren, speaking as OpSec WG co-chair >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> I had no shoes and wept. Then I met a man who had no feet. So I = said, "Hey man, got any shoes you're not using?"=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OPSEC mailing list >>> OPSEC@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec >>>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> The duke had a mind that ticked like a clock and, like a clock, it = regularly went cuckoo. >>=20 >> -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> OPSEC mailing list >> OPSEC@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec >>=20 >=20 > -- > "Have you got any previous convictions?" >=20 > "Well, I dunno... I suppose I used to believe very firmly that a penny = saved is a penny earned--" > -- Terry Pratchett >=20 >=20 >=20 -- The plural of anecdote is not evidence. -- Bill Lockyer, California Attorney General From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Feb 15 08:18:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA2F21F861F; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:18:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JZH6Idi4emH8; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:18:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90A721F88C7; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:18:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.40 Message-ID: <20130215161857.19856.31818.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:18:57 -0800 Cc: opsec@ietf.org Subject: [OPSEC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsec-lla-only-03.txt X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:18:58 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Operational Security Capabilities for IP = Network Infrastructure Working Group of the IETF. Title : Using Only Link-Local Addressing Inside an IPv6 Network Author(s) : Michael Behringer Eric Vyncke Filename : draft-ietf-opsec-lla-only-03.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2013-02-15 Abstract: In an IPv6 network it is possible to use only link-local addresses on infrastructure links between routers. This document discusses the advantages and disadvantages of this approach to help the decision process for a given network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-lla-only There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-lla-only-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-opsec-lla-only-03 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From fgont@si6networks.com Fri Feb 15 16:30:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4537721F8460 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:30:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.453 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.453 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.146, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qcf4uSnDKvL9 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from web01.jbserver.net (web01.jbserver.net [93.186.182.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C03821F8754 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:30:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from 95-132-17-190.fibertel.com.ar ([190.17.132.95] helo=[192.168.1.113]) by web01.jbserver.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1U6Vek-0007ma-BQ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:29:30 +0100 Message-ID: <511ED2DB.5080005@si6networks.com> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:29:15 -0300 From: Fernando Gont User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Kumari References: <0DF8F7D8-01EF-44AC-9ABB-A48D7E4855FC@kumari.net> <99E981C1-88DA-4BED-9E1C-8914BB271223@kumari.net> <05A89A20-7639-49BC-AB18-CF150590F7AA@kumari.net> In-Reply-To: <05A89A20-7639-49BC-AB18-CF150590F7AA@kumari.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: opsec@ietf.org, opsec chairs Subject: Re: [OPSEC] WGLC on draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets-02 X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 00:30:25 -0000 Hi, Warren, On 02/12/2013 05:13 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > The WGLC concluded on Feb 1st, and the chairs judge there to be > consensus on progressing the document… > > Authors -- I believe that there were some comments / nits that you > wanted to fold in. Please do so. We will then give the WG three or > four days just to make sure that the changes haven't materially > affected the meaning, and then ship it to the IESG… Thanks so much for the note! We will publish a revision of the document that includes the received feedback asap, so that we ship that version to the IESG. Thanks! Best regards, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 From fgont@si6networks.com Sat Feb 16 10:22:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F72A21F8930 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:22:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lbG62pSVvZk4 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from web01.jbserver.net (web01.jbserver.net [93.186.182.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CD721F8933 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [186.134.32.92] (helo=[192.168.123.126]) by web01.jbserver.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1U6mP7-0007yG-JF; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:22:29 +0100 Message-ID: <511FCE5F.3060607@si6networks.com> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:22:23 -0300 From: Fernando Gont User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'opsec@ietf.org'" References: <511FC966.8060806@si6networks.com> In-Reply-To: <511FC966.8060806@si6networks.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <511FC966.8060806@si6networks.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [OPSEC] Fwd: SI6 Networks' IPv6 Toolkit v1.3 released! X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:22:56 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, Thought this might be of interest to some of you... - -------- Original Message -------- Message-ID: <511FC966.8060806@si6networks.com> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:01:10 -0300 From: Fernando Gont User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com CC: Full Disclosure Subject: SI6 Networks IPv6 Toolkit v1.3 released! Folks, We are pleased to release the SI6 Networks' IPv6 Toolkit v1.3: a security assessment and trouble-shooting toolkit for the IPv6 protocol suite. The toolkit is available at: , where you can find a the usual tarball, a PGP-signed version of it, a link to the toolkit's GIT repository, etc. This release has a number of features: * It includes a full-fledged IPv6 address scanning tool (scan6) -- probably the only comprehensive IPv6 address scanning tool out there. Check out all the newly incorporated features! * It includes support for tunnels (in most of the tools). So if you are currently employing e.g. a free IPv6 tunnel to connect to the IPv6 Internet, you'll now be able t play with the tools using your tunnel. * Adds features that have been in our "todo list" for a while: + It includes manual pages in troff format for all the tools. + It includes a makefile, to easily build and install the tools, configuration file, manuals, etc., on your local system. The toolkit runs on (at least) the latest versions of Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and Mac OS X. Please send any bug reports and/or feature requests to . As always, you can get the latest news on IPv6 security research and tools by following us on Twitter: @SI6Networks. Thanks! Best regards, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRH85cAAoJEK4lDVUdTnSSr3UQAJbUsOlMIb6z+HhMatgOsf/5 7HMnqHmmYSRXArsr/W0i/2dBiDLlCnVNn80XnJepqtXADL/Rq3ISEKXCLgspKavw 0MIWKT+TLH/jOOeMA8dFvUeX7fX6UgD5eeG29kZ7OHVPefTUYdeGny2Zkutm/5vS GDXXH/tWHqUI7ZKHki9XXyL24ExnaCtNoJlPHlZ0ZdICOfdmdQ7FYvSyDfftnMFW /6EXebuR+NP2MlqhDxW9cJP9uYrq5RBOCIhgMOGTVY85r/82iwo2+QJzZtn99mMj bf5KhXFKk6iCyCnfCKDPIM2aExLzyioEWKjKavyyO2STLQupw87pkGepJ/ydOdn8 GDhMMmwXES44d678EQRKxfC+gC+GWS7Omn87wY2OTnOJcJw2yrNhmd6vWTpBKDKj tXqCISPTu2TZGnnj51gzjVmIbaDpIhlvS5jJ/1bI2lSmJWX+WJ0i0cfHtjfdiUqq /2Q94PjEuJJxy+DaBbmlgt9/J3xE4+clOxpFVL7Pw03Lgb4p5ekdGe6R3yHg5d4g C0VtOsatcfOu6esZ+wrhOyq0oEQISO9bcWH7MBP1ZS10tYbX5Jw5X5FilDCkS++F ix+aVtwEY8/+usHFwIEd9fCFGP59MpXuh3NR7IbDsofuROszqqeOfamfTqORoqXu ADk+K4T+iGWZFjIJ4oIK =TzDs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kkumar@google.com Sat Feb 16 13:32:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9AE21F8808 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:32:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 81PqvhUou7lU for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CBB21F8635 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fs12so4375255lab.39 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:31:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=dgkBEqigOptHhDjZE//iV8zCewjKmMrIeLVG7EdT+OY=; b=aYksmlrveccgWb+IowXs7z8gYibnKEqqyHcp/H9vPBh03rS4Ts2PRCqBHznzhvk0ec TfLGUfzRCRu2VZXovVNm9dcThNIju1W3T1ANIS2JeWqKg/zLiBx3y4DbRjxAVKwNW84S MTDEQL+0yzSNkBg04nq9FZoW+CzuVwH8OjvTiZeTVaDnp5T1v8+HjPM4+xm8Rq3O1D73 PVE/Hpy08QcYIJp9wApNYt3ZK0N3008rcW+n9eAd7lb3VNW2kKXQWiJ6QjlvIkmNBiEQ kIi8ErJRpxNmJSX2i+1sTBZ3UPXPRfWa1cdAKcfG3rH/Fum1izQlCXi0CYkguwxT+r7K e/Lw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=dgkBEqigOptHhDjZE//iV8zCewjKmMrIeLVG7EdT+OY=; b=J92qMv8Xk8d/t8DhuHNMQAdu5Rvr8CVBPGhj8u7TgiwgGfjC6c8FwgZ4n26CE9U2/2 sKcKZQzb4qjDhQuSoZMTpaoRIXfV9b9bxrhyT5g09lp2oX5RreRYdCe9rv4hyHNtllxu wxond+GaUDXjKvsX+ldR3T9Ldo1Whh//IiytZfTg1F8V/ZfBmfcdqcIGVFiIwi13b9s5 NJzAwfhU4niWXmrDrDulCmFb+ZNXncwy0MJtZwmy59VyY9qcPLkFfd7qIGXU86ihYEnz t5/W9En8GHe8mjWVPI0VJJcW3GQSgBFO+Ju1j5UfiVFWXIbbBru2K9w2SZ7b5zMdeNw9 5giw== X-Received: by 10.112.42.103 with SMTP id n7mr3675586lbl.52.1361050319075; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:31:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.48.198 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:31:38 -0800 (PST) From: KK Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:31:38 -0800 Message-ID: To: "opsec@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e0cb4efe3398ca3aaa04d5de3846 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk61gm48GV2l2hx9UXfBH267h7/NCBkHfYeeTpMY+MOJwxlXW+FeVJ5MtcWFpk4DEWn7pItLAPE7SA91CTHfKFVTOuSAf0VJhW3QKpHQt+N+B5hjZVEghW4j5pzp0inkQugfuSTJ0uszjckoIbz2NWQz7GtDKGTwMzajsXinYQ+g2cVXD/rvvXpOFivIL1Gkt29tHJE Subject: [OPSEC] OPSEC IETF86 - Call for Agenda Items X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 21:32:01 -0000 --e0cb4efe3398ca3aaa04d5de3846 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear All, If you have a draft you would like to discuss during IETF86, please send your request for agenda time to the opsec chairs. Please include in the request, the title and file name of the draft, the speaker's name, and how much time you would need. We will prioritize drafts that are WG items, drafts that have been actively discussed on the list, and other individual submissions in that order. Please send in your agenda items to us by 26 February, 2013. A few important dates to note for document submission: 2013-02-18 (Monday): Internet Draft Cut-off for initial document (-00) submission by UTC 24:00 2013-02-25 (Monday): Internet Draft final submission cut-off by UTC 24:00 Regards, KK, Gunter, Warren --e0cb4efe3398ca3aaa04d5de3846 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All,

If you have a draf= t you would like to discuss during IETF86, please send your request for age= nda time to the opsec chairs. Please include in the request, the title and = file name of the draft, the speaker's name, and how much time you would= need.

We will prioritize drafts that are WG items, drafts tha= t have been actively discussed on the list, and other individual submission= s in that order.

Please send in your agenda items = to us by 26 February, 2013. A few important dates to note for document subm= ission:

=A0 2013-02-18 (Monday): Internet Draft Cut-off for ini= tial document (-00) submission by UTC 24:00
=A0 2013-02-25 (Monda= y): Internet Draft final submission cut-off by UTC 24:00

Regards,
KK, Gunter, Warren
--e0cb4efe3398ca3aaa04d5de3846-- From warren@kumari.net Mon Feb 18 10:46:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0872221F8B02 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:46:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.582 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.582 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.017, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fuzfpnl6+A8R for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:46:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (smtp1.kumari.net [204.194.22.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2E321F8BCE for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:46:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.145] (unknown [66.84.81.126]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AE71D1B40706; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:46:02 -0500 (EST) From: Warren Kumari Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:46:01 -0500 Message-Id: To: "opsec@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering@tools.ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: Warren Kumari Subject: [OPSEC] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:46:37 -0000 Dear OpSec WG, This starts a Working Group Last Call for = draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering. The draft is available here: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering/ Please review this draft to see if you think it is ready for = publication. Send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. This WGLC ends Mon 04-Mar-2013. Thanks, Warren Kumari (as OpSec WG co-chair) -- "Real children don't go hoppity-skip unless they are on drugs." -- Susan, the ultimate sensible governess (Terry Pratchett, = Hogfather) From rbonica@juniper.net Tue Feb 19 06:23:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4864221F89B2 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:23:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.156 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.156 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.689, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_RAND_6=2, UNRESOLVED_TEMPLATE=3.132, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1NbqXxBj8kP6 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og123.obsmtp.com (exprod7og123.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6221121F8904 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:23:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob123.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUSOK1yJseJlP2jM0vkMiX0aelTFMFYg8@postini.com; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:23:21 PST Received: from P-CLDFE02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.60) by P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:20:00 -0800 Received: from o365mail.juniper.net (207.17.137.149) by o365mail.juniper.net (172.24.192.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:19:59 -0800 Received: from co1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (216.32.180.188) by o365mail.juniper.net (207.17.137.149) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.2; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:22:04 -0800 Received: from mail209-co1-R.bigfish.com (10.243.78.218) by CO1EHSOBE008.bigfish.com (10.243.66.71) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:35 +0000 Received: from mail209-co1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail209-co1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D867240141 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.238.5; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); (null); H:BY2PRD0512HT001.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; R:internal; EFV:INT X-SpamScore: -24 X-BigFish: PS-24(zz9371I542I1432I4015Izz1f42h1ee6h1de0h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ahzz1033IL8275dhz2dh2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh15d0h162dh1631h1758h18e1h1946h19b5h19ceh1155h) Received: from mail209-co1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail209-co1 (MessageSwitch) id 1361283568820254_29212; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO1EHSMHS027.bigfish.com (unknown [10.243.78.221]) by mail209-co1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6EDA8004E; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BY2PRD0512HT001.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (157.56.238.5) by CO1EHSMHS027.bigfish.com (10.243.66.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:27 +0000 Received: from BY2PRD0512MB653.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.5.49]) by BY2PRD0512HT001.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.243.34]) with mapi id 14.16.0263.000; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:26 +0000 From: Ronald Bonica To: Warren Kumari , "opsec@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [OPSEC] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering Thread-Index: AQHODghPrBFwy76NzEajXw7trrlEfJiBNApQ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:19:26 +0000 Message-ID: <2CF4CB03E2AA464BA0982EC92A02CE2501EF4D6E@BY2PRD0512MB653.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [66.129.232.2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%KUMARI.NET$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%TOOLS.IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:23:26 -0000 Folks, One picky point of grammar..... In section 4.6.5 you say, "Routers, security gateways, and firewalls SHOULD= drop IP packets containing a Stream Identifier option." However, in Sectio= n 4.1.5 you say, "Routers, security gateways, and firewalls SHOULD NOT drop= packets containing this [the end of options list] option." So, how should a device behave when it receives a packet containing both? C= learly, you want to drop the packet, but that document doesn't say that. Ron > -----Original Message----- > From: opsec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:opsec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Warren Kumari > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 1:46 PM > To: opsec@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options- > filtering@tools.ietf.org > Cc: Warren Kumari > Subject: [OPSEC] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options- > filtering >=20 > Dear OpSec WG, >=20 > This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options- > filtering. >=20 > The draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft- > ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering/ >=20 > Please review this draft to see if you think it is ready for > publication. >=20 > Send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. >=20 > This WGLC ends Mon 04-Mar-2013. >=20 > Thanks, > Warren Kumari > (as OpSec WG co-chair) >=20 >=20 > -- > "Real children don't go hoppity-skip unless they are on drugs." >=20 > -- Susan, the ultimate sensible governess (Terry Pratchett, > Hogfather) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec From cpignata@cisco.com Tue Feb 19 07:28:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86DA21F8D08 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:28:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3aDod84cTWIp for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:28:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFAE21F8CF4 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:28:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2144; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1361287724; x=1362497324; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=mJYe6Xt1+5OAtU9mplXnXA6cyaXRwRzFJHvYXoG0lo4=; b=TBlzlgEiAJz5FBtehOfv53AH4hweLeV951ib8WPWekxeoLzLgmMyGqks wPW4h8lt73UVVU0R5Q2lJv9GpGsJonkut8xyLafzSx+fCULg18b5jFbE8 p6evB43X8ZjRYmx18PEbPO6wVxDzUXqL0x5kuz26aIDcqTjbD3nkpogGV E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgEFAImZI1GtJV2a/2dsb2JhbABFwD+BChZzgh8BAQEDAQEBARodNAsFBwQCAQgOAwQBAQsUCQcnCxQJCAIEDgUIiAQGDLAvkBsEjlsCJgsHBoJZYQOnA4MHgic X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,696,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="178742560" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Feb 2013 15:28:43 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com [173.37.183.75]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1JFShv2002569 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:28:43 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([169.254.5.155]) by xhc-rcd-x01.cisco.com ([173.37.183.75]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:28:42 -0600 From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" To: Ronald Bonica Thread-Topic: [OPSEC] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering Thread-Index: AQHODgg73fqbioszNEKKiRtBrk/HrpiBoMMAgAATWgA= Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:28:42 +0000 Message-ID: <95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED32298D60E@xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com> References: <2CF4CB03E2AA464BA0982EC92A02CE2501EF4D6E@BY2PRD0512MB653.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <2CF4CB03E2AA464BA0982EC92A02CE2501EF4D6E@BY2PRD0512MB653.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.150.54.222] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "opsec@ietf.org" , Warren Kumari , "draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:28:45 -0000 Ron, Great catch -- thanks! I think S4.1.5 should be reworded to say that network devices SHOULD NOT dr= op packets because they contain this option (may drop them for other reason= s, like S4.6.5, even when containing a NOOP) Thanks, -- Carlos. On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote: > Folks, >=20 > One picky point of grammar..... >=20 > In section 4.6.5 you say, "Routers, security gateways, and firewalls SHOU= LD drop IP packets containing a Stream Identifier option." However, in Sect= ion 4.1.5 you say, "Routers, security gateways, and firewalls SHOULD NOT dr= op packets containing this [the end of options list] option." >=20 > So, how should a device behave when it receives a packet containing both?= Clearly, you want to drop the packet, but that document doesn't say that. >=20 > Ron >=20 >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: opsec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:opsec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >> Of Warren Kumari >> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 1:46 PM >> To: opsec@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options- >> filtering@tools.ietf.org >> Cc: Warren Kumari >> Subject: [OPSEC] Start of WGLC for draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options- >> filtering >>=20 >> Dear OpSec WG, >>=20 >> This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options- >> filtering. >>=20 >> The draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft- >> ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering/ >>=20 >> Please review this draft to see if you think it is ready for >> publication. >>=20 >> Send comments to the list, clearly stating your view. >>=20 >> This WGLC ends Mon 04-Mar-2013. >>=20 >> Thanks, >> Warren Kumari >> (as OpSec WG co-chair) >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> "Real children don't go hoppity-skip unless they are on drugs." >>=20 >> -- Susan, the ultimate sensible governess (Terry Pratchett, >> Hogfather) >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> OPSEC mailing list >> OPSEC@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec >=20 >=20 >=20 From warren@kumari.net Tue Feb 19 12:31:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B5221F8E64 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:31:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xhFtnxPl1HIF for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (smtp1.kumari.net [204.194.22.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB15D21F8E5C for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.145] (unknown [66.84.81.126]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 27ECE1B41867; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:31:55 -0500 (EST) From: Warren Kumari Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:31:54 -0500 Message-Id: To: "opsec@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering@tools.ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: Warren Kumari Subject: [OPSEC] Dont panic! - Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:31:56 -0000 Dear OpSec WG, Be not alarmed (I also added to "Don't Panic" to save Fernando having a = heart attack :-)) This email was created to satisfy RFC 6702 "Promoting Compliance with = Intellectual Property Rights (IPR)" = (http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc6702.txt). The authors of draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering have asked for a = Working Group Last Call. Before the Working Group Last Call ends we = would like to check whether any claims of Intellectual Property Rights = (IPR) on the document have not yet been disclosed. Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to = draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering? If so, has this IPR been = disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669, and 5378 for more details.) If you are a document author or listed contributor on this document, = please reply to this email regardless of whether or not you are = personally aware of any relevant IPR.=20 We might not be able to advance this document to the next stage until we = have received a reply from each author and listed contributor. If you are on the OpSec WG email list but are not an author or listed = contributor for this document, you are reminded of your opportunity for = a voluntary IPR disclosure under BCP 79. Please do not reply unless you = want to make such a voluntary disclosure. Online tools for filing IPR disclosures can be found at = . Thanks, Warren Kumari (as OpSec WG co-chair) -- Some people are like Slinkies......Not really good for anything but they = still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs. From cpignata@cisco.com Tue Feb 19 13:37:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6C521F89DC for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:37:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y9JF7FAAG2zH for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F386B21F89A3 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:37:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2012; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1361309822; x=1362519422; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=GUTcX1k1ei/m6KhJjSiwkW4GAj83gPAJZ1Dz6zL0gRs=; b=AL5k6Kz/CFVNDPDfwj79TguzP2wPIEmOV0d3wYT8ViU9oJAK6FHaiJVI ebFDN6y5KaBvNiwwdpxm6S3qQdL8B7x7LVKGZrLpjF1+I0/FNLY45ycWl BxjM+1S5u5ysaEjcikQUIeTH8DI9DiBnlWyyy9mnMAT5bNKYpU3V46IUo k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFAPDvI1GtJV2Y/2dsb2JhbABEwDyBDRZzgiEBBAEBATc0BhcBCCIUNwslAgQBEggBiAkMsCaQKI09gSA4gl9hA5dIjzuBUoE1gXI1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,697,1355097600"; d="scan'208";a="178936672" Received: from rcdn-core-1.cisco.com ([173.37.93.152]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Feb 2013 21:37:01 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com [173.37.183.81]) by rcdn-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1JLb1eq031897 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:37:01 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com ([169.254.5.155]) by xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com ([173.37.183.81]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:37:01 -0600 From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" To: Warren Kumari , "opsec@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering@tools.ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [OPSEC] Dont panic! - Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering Thread-Index: AQHODulAJiFnIGYp00eRyZZWUvgX4g== Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:37:01 +0000 Message-ID: <95067C434CE250468B77282634C96ED32298FDED@xmb-aln-x02.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.1.130117 x-originating-ip: [10.150.54.222] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <18E6439A0E08374AA0A111AFCE9F7C47@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Dont panic! - Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:37:07 -0000 I am not aware of any IPR that applies to the subject of draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering Thanks, -- Carlos. On 2/19/13 3:31 PM, "Warren Kumari" wrote: >Dear OpSec WG, > >Be not alarmed (I also added to "Don't Panic" to save Fernando having a >heart attack :-)) >This email was created to satisfy RFC 6702 "Promoting Compliance with >Intellectual Property Rights (IPR)" >(http://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc6702.txt). > > >The authors of draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering have asked for a >Working Group Last Call. Before the Working Group Last Call ends we >would like to check whether any claims of Intellectual Property Rights >(IPR) on the document have not yet been disclosed. > >Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to >draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering? If so, has this IPR been >disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? >(See RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669, and 5378 for more details.) > >If you are a document author or listed contributor on this document, >please reply to this email regardless of whether or not you are >personally aware of any relevant IPR. >We might not be able to advance this document to the next stage until we >have received a reply from each author and listed contributor. > >If you are on the OpSec WG email list but are not an author or listed >contributor for this document, you are reminded of your opportunity for a >voluntary IPR disclosure under BCP 79. Please do not reply unless you >want to make such a voluntary disclosure. > >Online tools for filing IPR disclosures can be found at >. > >Thanks, >Warren Kumari >(as OpSec WG co-chair) > > >-- >Some people are like Slinkies......Not really good for anything but they >still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs. > > > >_______________________________________________ >OPSEC mailing list >OPSEC@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec > From fgont@si6networks.com Thu Feb 21 23:19:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B817C21F8EF2 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:19:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F0WkEjB-IUlg for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from web01.jbserver.net (web01.jbserver.net [93.186.182.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B7821F8EE0 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from [186.137.77.228] (helo=[192.168.1.113]) by web01.jbserver.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1U8muP-00053B-73; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:19:24 +0100 Message-ID: <512702B0.9060709@si6networks.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 02:31:28 -0300 From: Fernando Gont User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Kumari References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "opsec@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Dont panic! - Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:19:49 -0000 On 02/19/2013 05:31 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > > Be not alarmed (I also added to "Don't Panic" to save Fernando having > a heart attack :-)) Thanks :-) [....] > The authors of draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering have asked for a > Working Group Last Call. Before the Working Group Last Call ends we > would like to check whether any claims of Intellectual Property > Rights (IPR) on the document have not yet been disclosed. > > Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering? No. Cheers, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 From kkumar@google.com Fri Feb 22 05:44:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CF221F88B5 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:44:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I7FEE2BLaggS for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:44:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-la0-x236.google.com (mail-la0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C55821F8786 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id gw10so633175lab.27 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:44:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=+tKKx9IOTw4wlWjMHg4ZdT5OrK3e78FxDELoe0rL+Xo=; b=J9pFnYPiSMMQufEO6bPvuZBlAhwybKOntkPOyaAPDmRD4tZqmrmkKHw7Wuc7OTO3Rn EBFGils9OayvaEgkHnohP7yOAuY/qzKdm5jeYHtnbmfDRC/1BMcLncOs4yMDe1opGiR/ bUZa/UhlPnMZpABASRb5+RrntTs2Q68qjetG00ATRpboNrkjpcr5H8bbUAYqY1tKSIZn RtQhbXxdCNEWLAIjIv3frHQ6hFWUsam3WhNceh3bXGjd68DTjGG1sY+qmvzt1uRFUq5P FX/+AJSrBLH/gzDYdUegZh3U71wyBPE7e7iAF1nzFlPa0CKv9KFUEBDHCzL6YSl0nNCN NAWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=+tKKx9IOTw4wlWjMHg4ZdT5OrK3e78FxDELoe0rL+Xo=; b=ch3wZ3+thSrm7I3D5GtjtMx36in83Qxxgbfo9YayITHo13ORUWBx6AtsDWlOWJxI4C RLeDu9NNynPqXqgenOaRyVutZrB1ATEPTYUfeEE5bD1HqFXCZcaePr0sxkz4nbYT9B/B MRoB9/THz89ci8sPvvWXpdV8vxQDa7aLe94HsGBLYfravB3hHIQWclEdMhvYxLGA7t5o sC0Fdb1zJAq1T+yyTPyMRgadvdSShT/4W6GzX+bKqdxFeYJcgoRiPML94CQ3u77nUOWe il4JJOACeHcyMBM1zvztAqQxpdKc2hdLleBnCTXgTCTpOq0MyzmIJZu/r5E0voT9QDNn Pnrg== X-Received: by 10.152.112.138 with SMTP id iq10mr1764092lab.55.1361540681178; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:44:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.48.198 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:44:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: KK Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:44:20 -0800 Message-ID: To: "opsec@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0408da07a61c8604d6506495 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmcAEcB4UBmRPXM895x1oL1JwfkO58v7nNfbMe5kVLJzx7Tp8dhoF/+BN+es21oIOdBVAqs44RJhcdBDn2zkXclTtAiwdUL1Y3ta9FMKBuWxP81ck33ANWy/16AwA4At8mbC9smOfom6rkahQ0pRR6pDY55BAGGpPmbmK6exW0E9AUj4ZlwePx7a+WjAijJcYoSkvpE Subject: Re: [OPSEC] OPSEC IETF86 - Call for Agenda Items X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:44:43 -0000 --f46d0408da07a61c8604d6506495 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear All, Just a quick reminder - we still have some open slots on the agenda, so please be sure to send your request for agenda time to the opsec chairs by 26 February. Regards, KK, Gunter, Warren On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:31 PM, KK wrote: > Dear All, > > If you have a draft you would like to discuss during IETF86, please send > your request for agenda time to the opsec chairs. Please include in the > request, the title and file name of the draft, the speaker's name, and how > much time you would need. > > We will prioritize drafts that are WG items, drafts that have been > actively discussed on the list, and other individual submissions in that > order. > > Please send in your agenda items to us by 26 February, 2013. A few > important dates to note for document submission: > > 2013-02-18 (Monday): Internet Draft Cut-off for initial document (-00) > submission by UTC 24:00 > 2013-02-25 (Monday): Internet Draft final submission cut-off by UTC 24:00 > > Regards, > KK, Gunter, Warren > --f46d0408da07a61c8604d6506495 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All,

Just a quick reminder -= we still have some open slots on the agenda, so please be sure to send you= r request for agenda time to the opsec chairs by 26 February.=A0

Regards,
KK, Gunter, Warren


On Sat, Feb = 16, 2013 at 1:31 PM, KK <kk@google.com> wrote:
Dear All,
If you have a draft you would like to discuss during IETF86, p= lease send your request for agenda time to the opsec chairs. Please include= in the request, the title and file name of the draft, the speaker's na= me, and how much time you would need.

We will prioritize drafts that are WG items, drafts tha= t have been actively discussed on the list, and other individual submission= s in that order.

Please send in your agenda items = to us by 26 February, 2013. A few important dates to note for document subm= ission:

=A0 2013-02-18 (Monday): Internet Draft Cut-off for ini= tial document (-00) submission by UTC 24:00
=A0 2013-02-25 (Monda= y): Internet Draft final submission cut-off by UTC 24:00

Regards,
KK, Gunter, Warren

--f46d0408da07a61c8604d6506495-- From Donald.Smith@CenturyLink.com Fri Feb 22 07:33:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4110621F8DC9 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:33:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TFZ6hDvYyHoo for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from sudnp799.qwest.com (sudnp799.qwest.com [155.70.32.99]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B00D21F8886 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:33:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lxomavmpc030.qintra.com (lxomavmpc030.qintra.com [151.117.207.30]) by sudnp799.qwest.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r1MFXmUe016416 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:33:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from lxomavmpc030.qintra.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSA (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46BF1E00FC; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:33:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from suomp60i.qintra.com (unknown [10.6.10.61]) by lxomavmpc030.qintra.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0F71E00EE; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:33:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from suomp60i.qintra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by suomp60i.qintra.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r1MFXgkh018409; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:33:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from vddcwhubex501.ctl.intranet (vddcwhubex501.qintra.com [151.119.128.28]) by suomp60i.qintra.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r1MFXfAY018400 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:33:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from PDDCWMBXEX503.ctl.intranet ([fe80::9033:ef22:df02:32a9]) by vddcwhubex501.ctl.intranet ([2002:9777:801c::9777:801c]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 08:33:40 -0700 From: "Smith, Donald" To: Fernando Gont , Warren Kumari Thread-Topic: [OPSEC] Dont panic! - Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering Thread-Index: AQHODuEzzhK/tLepGkeohs3p7vzSjZiF008AgAAycZA= Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:33:40 +0000 Message-ID: <68EFACB32CF4464298EA2779B058889D0A2CAFDC@PDDCWMBXEX503.ctl.intranet> References: , <512702B0.9060709@si6networks.com> In-Reply-To: <512702B0.9060709@si6networks.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [151.117.206.32] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_68EFACB32CF4464298EA2779B058889D0A2CAFDCPDDCWMBXEX503ct_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Cc: "opsec@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Dont panic! - Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:33:52 -0000 --_000_68EFACB32CF4464298EA2779B058889D0A2CAFDCPDDCWMBXEX503ct_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable None that I am aware of... BTW it isn't stated but I assume you need such statements from anyone liste= d as a contributor not just the author(s) correct? (coffee !=3D sleep) & (!coffee =3D=3D sleep) Donald.Smith@centurylink.com ________________________________ From: opsec-bounces@ietf.org [opsec-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Fernando= Gont [fgont@si6networks.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:31 PM To: Warren Kumari Cc: opsec@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Dont panic! - Reminder about IPR relating to draft-iet= f-opsec-ip-options-filtering On 02/19/2013 05:31 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > > Be not alarmed (I also added to "Don't Panic" to save Fernando having > a heart attack :-)) Thanks :-) [....] > The authors of draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering have asked for a > Working Group Last Call. Before the Working Group Last Call ends we > would like to check whether any claims of Intellectual Property > Rights (IPR) on the document have not yet been disclosed. > > Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to > draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering? No. Cheers, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 _______________________________________________ OPSEC mailing list OPSEC@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec --_000_68EFACB32CF4464298EA2779B058889D0A2CAFDCPDDCWMBXEX503ct_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

None that I am aware of...

 

BTW it isn't stated but I assume you need such statements from anyone li= sted as a contributor not just the author(s) correct?

 

 

(coffee !=3D sleep) & (!coffee =3D=3D sleep)
 Donald.Smith@centuryl= ink.com
From: opsec-bounces@ietf.org [opsec-bounce= s@ietf.org] on behalf of Fernando Gont [fgont@si6networks.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:31 PM
To: Warren Kumari
Cc: opsec@ietf.org; draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering@tools.ietf= .org
Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Dont panic! - Reminder about IPR relating to dr= aft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering

On 02/19/2013 05:31 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:
>
> Be not alarmed (I also added to "Don't Panic" to save Fernan= do having
> a heart attack :-))

Thanks :-)


[....]
> The authors of draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering have asked for a<= br> > Working Group Last Call.  Before the Working Group Last Call ends= we
> would like to check whether any claims of Intellectual Property
> Rights (IPR) on the document have not yet been disclosed.
>
> Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to
> draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering?

No.

Cheers,
--
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com
PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492




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--_000_68EFACB32CF4464298EA2779B058889D0A2CAFDCPDDCWMBXEX503ct_-- From warren@kumari.net Fri Feb 22 07:38:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F74421F8E50 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:38:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jPP5b5IZELoh for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (smtp1.kumari.net [204.194.22.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61D021F8E3C for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.145] (unknown [66.84.81.126]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BCE431B40706; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:38:11 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) From: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: <68EFACB32CF4464298EA2779B058889D0A2CAFDC@PDDCWMBXEX503.ctl.intranet> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:38:09 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <955921ED-A71E-482E-912B-4A1E2F2909CD@kumari.net> References: , <512702B0.9060709@si6networks.com> <68EFACB32CF4464298EA2779B058889D0A2CAFDC@PDDCWMBXEX503.ctl.intranet> To: "Smith, Donald" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Cc: Fernando Gont , "opsec@ietf.org" , Warren Kumari , "draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering@tools.ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Dont panic! - Reminder about IPR relating to draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:38:13 -0000 On Feb 22, 2013, at 10:33 AM, "Smith, Donald" = wrote: > None that I am aware of... > =20 > BTW it isn't stated but I assume you need such statements from anyone = listed as a contributor not just the author(s) correct? Yup.=20 It was stated in the original messages, the replies just trimmed that = bit=85 "If you are a document author or listed contributor on this document, = please reply to this email regardless of whether or not you are = personally aware of any relevant IPR.=20 We might not be able to advance this document to the next stage until we = have received a reply from each author and listed contributor. " W > =20 > (coffee !=3D sleep) & (!coffee =3D=3D sleep) > Donald.Smith@centurylink.com > From: opsec-bounces@ietf.org [opsec-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of = Fernando Gont [fgont@si6networks.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:31 PM > To: Warren Kumari > Cc: opsec@ietf.org; = draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OPSEC] Dont panic! - Reminder about IPR relating to = draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering >=20 > On 02/19/2013 05:31 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > >=20 > > Be not alarmed (I also added to "Don't Panic" to save Fernando = having > > a heart attack :-)) >=20 > Thanks :-) >=20 >=20 > [....] > > The authors of draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering have asked for = a > > Working Group Last Call. Before the Working Group Last Call ends we > > would like to check whether any claims of Intellectual Property > > Rights (IPR) on the document have not yet been disclosed. > >=20 > > Are you personally aware of any IPR that applies to > > draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering? >=20 > No. >=20 > Cheers, > --=20 > Fernando Gont > SI6 Networks > e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com > PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec -- After you'd known Christine for any length of time, you found yourself = fighting a desire to look into her ear to see if you could spot daylight = coming the other way. -- (Terry Pratchett, Maskerade) From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri Feb 22 13:23:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0421021F8C75; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:23:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jkhW-D2C10MH; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:23:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1254B21F8713; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:23:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.40 Message-ID: <20130222212342.16814.75597.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:23:42 -0800 Cc: opsec@ietf.org Subject: [OPSEC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets-03.txt X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:23:44 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Operational Security Capabilities for IP = Network Infrastructure Working Group of the IETF. Title : Security Implications of IPv6 on IPv4 Networks Author(s) : Fernando Gont Will (Shucheng) Liu Filename : draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets-03.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2013-02-22 Abstract: This document discusses the security implications of native IPv6 support and IPv6 transition/co-existence technologies on "IPv4-only" networks, and describes possible mitigations for the aforementioned issues. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4= -nets There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets-= 03 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ip= v4-nets-03 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From fgont@si6networks.com Fri Feb 22 15:20:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D050621E8091 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:20:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.535 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.535 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SZI3+PC4uLqh for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:20:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from web01.jbserver.net (web01.jbserver.net [93.186.182.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52DC21E808C for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [186.134.31.71] (helo=[192.168.123.126]) by web01.jbserver.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1U91uR-0004A8-Aa; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 00:20:08 +0100 Message-ID: <5127FD21.4050208@si6networks.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:20:01 -0300 From: Fernando Gont User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: opsec chairs References: <20130222212342.16814.75597.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130222212342.16814.75597.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "'opsec@ietf.org'" Subject: Re: [OPSEC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets-03.txt X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:20:37 -0000 Folks, Ready to ship? Thanks! Fernando On 02/22/2013 06:23 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Security Implications of IPv6 on IPv4 Networks > Author(s) : Fernando Gont > Will (Shucheng) Liu > Filename : draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets-03.txt > Pages : 23 > Date : 2013-02-22 > > Abstract: > This document discusses the security implications of native IPv6 > support and IPv6 transition/co-existence technologies on "IPv4-only" > networks, and describes possible mitigations for the aforementioned > issues. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets-03 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets-03 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > OPSEC mailing list > OPSEC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/opsec > -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492 From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Feb 24 22:36:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336BD21F91A7; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:36:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.464 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.464 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.135, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cf4OmntYVN00; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:36:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9B521F91A9; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:36:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.40 Message-ID: <20130225063651.2962.82837.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:36:51 -0800 Cc: opsec@ietf.org Subject: [OPSEC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-opsec-v6-02.txt X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 06:36:52 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Operational Security Capabilities for IP = Network Infrastructure Working Group of the IETF. Title : Operational Security Considerations for IPv6 Networks Author(s) : Kiran Kumar Chittimaneni Merike Kaeo Eric Vyncke Filename : draft-ietf-opsec-v6-02.txt Pages : 40 Date : 2013-02-24 Abstract: Knowledge and experience on how to operate IPv4 securely is available: whether it is the Internet or an enterprise internal network. However, IPv6 presents some new security challenges. RFC 4942 describes the security issues in the protocol but network managers also need a more practical, operations-minded best common practices. This document analyzes the operational security issues in all places of a network (service providers, enterprises and residential users) and proposes technical and procedural mitigations techniques. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsec-v6 There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsec-v6-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-opsec-v6-02 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com Wed Feb 27 10:31:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A362A21F89CB for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:31:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.493 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.106, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x6fG-xue-q8d for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:31:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from slb-mbsout-02.boeing.com (slb-mbsout-02.boeing.com [130.76.64.129]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CAD21F89B2 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:31:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from slb-mbsout-02.boeing.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by slb-mbsout-02.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/DOWNSTREAM_MBSOUT) with ESMTP id r1RIVsRe023508 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:31:54 -0800 Received: from XCH-NWHT-04.nw.nos.boeing.com (xch-nwht-04.nw.nos.boeing.com [130.247.64.250]) by slb-mbsout-02.boeing.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/UPSTREAM_MBSOUT) with ESMTP id r1RIVrUd023496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:31:54 -0800 Received: from XCH-BLV-102.nw.nos.boeing.com (130.247.25.117) by XCH-NWHT-04.nw.nos.boeing.com (130.247.64.250) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.297.1; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:31:53 -0800 Received: from XCH-BLV-504.nw.nos.boeing.com ([169.254.4.245]) by XCH-BLV-102.nw.nos.boeing.com ([fe80::bcb7:c81b:3e8e:94c2%15]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.011; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:31:53 -0800 From: "Templin, Fred L" To: "opsec@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: comment on 'draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets' Thread-Index: Ac4VGLawnms/XfNvRyuAsQEKPKG3yQ== Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:31:53 +0000 Message-ID: <2134F8430051B64F815C691A62D9831801380F@XCH-BLV-504.nw.nos.boeing.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.247.104.6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-MML: No Subject: [OPSEC] comment on 'draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets' X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:31:55 -0000 Hi, In the latest draft version, Section 3.5 says: "As a result, blocking ISATAP by preventing hosts from successfully performing name resolution for the aforementioned names and/or by filtering packets with specific IPv4 destination addresses is both difficult and undesirable." I would like to understand this better. In particular, the ISATAP service is by design disabled by disabling name resolution for the name "isatap.domainname" and/or by disabling the ISATAP router advertisement service. Can you say why this would be difficult and undesirable? Thanks - Fred fred.l.templin@boeing.com From fgont@si6networks.com Thu Feb 28 21:33:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: opsec@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906EF21F882D for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:33:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.541 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NbgMcuYzg3z1 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from web01.jbserver.net (web01.jbserver.net [93.186.182.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DBFD21F8803 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 21:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [186.137.77.228] (helo=[192.168.1.113]) by web01.jbserver.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1UBIag-0002fH-BX; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 06:33:06 +0100 Message-ID: <51303822.50108@si6networks.com> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 02:09:54 -0300 From: Fernando Gont User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Templin, Fred L" References: <2134F8430051B64F815C691A62D9831801380F@XCH-BLV-504.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <2134F8430051B64F815C691A62D9831801380F@XCH-BLV-504.nw.nos.boeing.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "opsec@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [OPSEC] comment on 'draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets' X-BeenThere: opsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: opsec wg mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 05:33:57 -0000 Hi, Fred, On 02/27/2013 03:31 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote: > > "As a result, blocking ISATAP by preventing hosts from > successfully performing name resolution for the > aforementioned names and/or by filtering packets with > specific IPv4 destination addresses is both difficult > and undesirable." > > I would like to understand this better. In particular, the > ISATAP service is by design disabled by disabling name > resolution for the name "isatap.domainname" and/or by > disabling the ISATAP router advertisement service. Can > you say why this would be difficult and undesirable? Preventing name resolution is virtually impossible, since Windows nodes not only try to perform such resolution with DNS, but also with LLMNR. In order to block the latter, you should be able to achieve such filtering at layer 2 -- and that would be a bit onerous (not to mention how difficult that would be if fragmentation is employed). Since you never know what the isata domain names may resolve to, it's essentially impossible to block isatap packets based on a specific destination address (you'd need to know such address in advance in order to create the ACL). Please do let me know if this clarification has been of any help. Thanks, -- Fernando Gont SI6 Networks e-mail: fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 6666 31C6 D484 63B2 8FB1 E3C4 AE25 0D55 1D4E 7492