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Subject: Re: [OSPF] SR 612546021 - SNMP responses for the "ospfNbrTable" mib variable
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[followups to cs-ospf]

Hi Joe,

Responses inline:

Anirban Karmakar (akarmaka) wrote:
> Adding ospf mailer list
> 
>  
> 
> *From:* Joe Reekers (jreekers)
> *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2009 9:01 PM
> *To:* cs-snmp (mailer list); cse-tac-snmp(mailer list)
> *Subject:* SR 612546021 - SNMP responses for the "ospfNbrTable" mib variable
> 
>  
> 
> *2nd try - expanding audience*
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 7206VXR IOS 12.3(22)
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Team.
> 
>  
> 
> I need some assistance with this case. 
> 
>  
> 
> Polling of the "ospfNbrTable" mib variable is yeilding an improper 
> response. I believe that the SNMP response should match with the router 
> show command as seen by dumping OSPF neighbours.
> 
> For example,
> 
> On a router (Bucaramanga), they have the following OSPF neighbours as 
> seen from the router CLI:
> 
> cobuar1#sh ip ospf neigh
> 
> Neighbor ID     Pri   State           Dead Time     Address           
> Interface
> 
> 172.28.4.40       1   FULL/DR         00:00:30    10.166.28.6      
> ATM3/0.19046
> 10.10.66.32       0   FULL/  -          00:00:37    10.10.66.32       
> Serial2/0:0 
> 
> 10.10.66.32       0   FULL/  -          
> 00:00:39    10.10.66.32       Serial2/4:0
> 
> 
> However the IP addresses show up as 0.0.0.0 in SNMP queries on ospfNbrTable
> 
> These results should match with entries under "Address" column above:
> 
> ospf.ospfNbrTable.ospfNbrEntry.ospfNbrIpAddr.10.166.28.6.0 : IpAddress: 
> 10.166.28.6
> 
> ospf.ospfNbrTable.ospfNbrEntry.ospfNbrIpAddr.0.0.0.0.21 : IpAddress: 0.0.0.0
> ospf.ospfNbrTable.ospfNbrEntry.ospfNbrIpAddr.0.0.0.0.23 : IpAddress: 0.0.0.0
> 
> These results should match with entries under "Neighbor ID" column above.
> 
> ospf.ospfNbrTable.ospfNbrEntry.ospfNbrRtrId.10.166.28.6.0 : IpAddress: 
> 172.28.4.40
> 
> ospf.ospfNbrTable.ospfNbrEntry.ospfNbrRtrId.0.0.0.0.21 : IpAddress: 
> 10.10.66.32
> ospf.ospfNbrTable.ospfNbrEntry.ospfNbrRtrId.0.0.0.0.23 : IpAddress: 
> 10.10.66.32
> 
> This MIB object states the following:
> 
> ospfNbrIpAddr OBJECT-TYPE
>        SYNTAX       IpAddress
>        MAX-ACCESS   read-only -- read-only since originally an
>                               -- SMIv1 index
>        STATUS       current
>        DESCRIPTION
>           "The IP address this neighbor is using in its
>           IP source address.  Note that, on addressless
>           links, this will not be 0.0.0.0 but the
>           address of another of the neighbor's interfaces."
> 
>        ::= { ospfNbrEntry 1 }
> 
>  
> 
> At first, I thought this may be CSCdz53031, but that's been ruled-out 
> based on the show tech received that doesn't show unused ospf process 
> definitions.
> 
>  
> 
> So, my questions are:
> 
>  
> 
> 1.  In the first poll, you see that the IP is included in the poll, but 
> the instance is "0", but it returns a value...is that the correct way to 
> poll this object?
> 
> (ex. ospf.ospfNbrTable.ospfNbrEntry.ospfNbrIpAddr.10.166.28.6.0 : 
> IpAddress: 10.166.28.6)

What I think is being displayed here is the table index, defined as:

INDEX { ospfNbrIpAddr, ospfNbrAddressLessIndex }

It so happens that the first interface is numbered, so 
ospfNbrAddressLessIndex will be 0 as specified in the MIB:

     ospfNbrAddressLessIndex OBJECT-TYPE
         SYNTAX   InterfaceIndex
         MAX-ACCESS   read-only
         STATUS   current
         DESCRIPTION
            "On an interface having an  IP  Address,  zero.
            On  addressless  interfaces,  the corresponding
            value of ifIndex in the Internet Standard  MIB.
            On  row  creation, this can be derived from the
            instance."

> 
> 2.  In the other two polls, the IP in the poll is 0.0.0.0, but the 
> instances match the ifTable, yet the information returned is also 
> 0.0.0.0...would that be expected??
> 
> (ex. ospf.ospfNbrTable.ospfNbrEntry.ospfNbrIpAddr.0.0.0.0.21 : 
> IpAddress: 0.0.0.0
>       ospf.ospfNbrTable.ospfNbrEntry.ospfNbrIpAddr.0.0.0.0.23 : 
> IpAddress: 0.0.0.0)

I agree this looks fishy. If I had to guess, I'd say the code in 
this area was never updated when we moved from rfc 1253 to rfc 
1850.  In the older version of the MIB the definition was:

      ospfNbrIpAddr OBJECT-TYPE
          SYNTAX   IpAddress
          ACCESS   read-write
          STATUS   mandatory
          DESCRIPTION
             "The IP address of this neighbor."
          ::= { ospfNbrEntry 1 }

So, for unnumbered interfaces this is returned as 0.0.0.0.

Feel free to file a bug against ospf for this.

Regards,
Paul

> 
>  
> 
> I guess I'm not understanding what should be polled and returned as 
> compared to what they are actually seeing here.
> 
>  
> 
> Files:
> 
> Show Tech:  
> http://wwwin-tools.cisco.com/casekwery/getAttachment?id=30975569&download=Y 
> <http://wwwin-tools.cisco.com/casekwery/getAttachment?id=30975569&download=Y>
> 
> IfTable walk: 
> http://wwwin-tools.cisco.com/casekwery/getAttachment?id=30975562&download=Y 
> <http://wwwin-tools.cisco.com/casekwery/getAttachment?id=30975562&download=Y>
> 
> Word Doc with some additional data: 
> http://wwwin-tools.cisco.com/casekwery/getAttachment?id=30942401&download=Y 
> <http://wwwin-tools.cisco.com/casekwery/getAttachment?id=30942401&download=Y> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> 
>  
> 
> -Joe
> 

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1) In the above ospf topology according to ospf rfc 2328 in section 3.4, it
states that

   "Note that a failure of the line between Routers RT6 and RT10
   will cause the backbone to become disconnected."

Though there is router RT7 in area 2 still connected to the backbone.It
confused my understanding of
disconnected backbone area. Can someone shed some light on this.


2) why should routers connected by a point to point link having interface
addresses assigned,
  should advertise a stub link a stub connection to the other router's
interface address.


thanks

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Hi Sinbad,
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On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:20 AM, Sinbad wrote:

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>              .    +         /      \   .           |7         |
>              .    | 3+---+ /        \  .           |          |
>              .  N2|--|RT2|/1        1\ .           |6         |
>              .    |  +---+            +---+8    6+---+        |
>              .    +                   |RT3|------|RT6|        |
>              .                        +---+      +---+        |
>              .                      2/ .         Ia|7         |
>              .                      /  .           |          |
>              .             +---------+ .           |          |
>              .Area 1           N4      .           |          |
>              ...........................           |          |
>           ..........................               |          |
>           .            N11         .               |          |
>           .        +---------+     .               |          |
>           .             |          .               |          |    N12
>           .             |3         .             Ib|5         |6 2/
>           .           +---+        .             +----+     +---+/
>           .           |RT9|        .    .........|RT10|.....|RT7|--- 
> N15.
>           .           +---+        .    .        +----+     +---+  
> 9    .
>           .             |1         .    .    +  /3    1\      | 
> 1       .
>           .            _|__        .    .    | /        \   __| 
> _       .
>           .           /    \      1+----+2   |/          \ /     
> \      .
>           .          *  N9  *------|RT11|----|            *  N6   
> *     .
>           .           \____/       +----+    |              
> \____/      .
>           .             |          .    .    |                 
> |        .
>           .             |1         .    .    +                | 
> 1       .
>           .  +--+   10+----+       .    .   N8              +--- 
> +      .
>           .  |H1|-----|RT12|       .    .                   | 
> RT8|      .
>           .  +--+SLIP +----+       .    .                   +--- 
> +      .
>           .             |2         .    .                     | 
> 4       .
>           .             |          .    .                      
> |        .
>           .        +---------+     .    .                 +-------- 
> +   .
>           .            N10         .    .                      
> N7       .
>           .                        .    .Area  
> 2                        .
>           .Area  
> 3                  .    ................................
>           ..........................
>
>
>
> 1) In the above ospf topology according to ospf rfc 2328 in section  
> 3.4, it states that
>
>    "Note that a failure of the line between Routers RT6 and RT10
>    will cause the backbone to become disconnected."
>
> Though there is router RT7 in area 2 still connected to the  
> backbone.It confused my understanding of
> disconnected backbone area. Can someone shed some light on this.

I believe this issue has been raised before although I couldn't find  
an errata. The figure is incorrect. Network N8 should be in the  
backbone area rather than Area 2.


>
>
> 2) why should routers connected by a point to point link having  
> interface addresses assigned,
>   should advertise a stub link a stub connection to the other  
> router's interface address.

This dates back to the fact that P2P links were represented as a host  
route to the destination network on BSD based systems. Those of you  
who are familiar with GateD will remember this. Note that there is  
also an option to represent/advertise P2P links as a subnets. Most if  
not all routers vendors advertise the subnet.

Hope this helps,
Acee


>
>
> thanks
>
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>
> Hi Sinbad,
> See inline.
>
> On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:20 AM, Sinbad wrote:
>
> >              ...........................
> >              .   +                     .
> >              .   | 3+---+              .      N12      N14
> >              . N1|--|RT1|\ 1           .        \ N13 /
> >              .   |  +---+ \            .        8\ |8/8
> >              .   +         \ ____      .          \|/
> >              .              /    \   1+---+8    8+---+6
> >              .             *  N3  *---|RT4|------|RT5|--------+
> >              .              \____/    +---+      +---+        |
> >              .    +         /      \   .           |7         |
> >              .    | 3+---+ /        \  .           |          |
> >              .  N2|--|RT2|/1        1\ .           |6         |
> >              .    |  +---+            +---+8    6+---+        |
> >              .    +                   |RT3|------|RT6|        |
> >              .                        +---+      +---+        |
> >              .                      2/ .         Ia|7         |
> >              .                      /  .           |          |
> >              .             +---------+ .           |          |
> >              .Area 1           N4      .           |          |
> >              ...........................           |          |
> >           ..........................               |          |
> >           .            N11         .               |          |
> >           .        +---------+     .               |          |
> >           .             |          .               |          |    N12
> >           .             |3         .             Ib|5         |6 2/
> >           .           +---+        .             +----+     +---+/
> >           .           |RT9|        .    .........|RT10|.....|RT7|---
> > N15.
> >           .           +---+        .    .        +----+     +---+
> > 9    .
> >           .             |1         .    .    +  /3    1\      |
> > 1       .
> >           .            _|__        .    .    | /        \   __|
> > _       .
> >           .           /    \      1+----+2   |/          \ /
> > \      .
> >           .          *  N9  *------|RT11|----|            *  N6
> > *     .
> >           .           \____/       +----+    |
> > \____/      .
> >           .             |          .    .    |
> > |        .
> >           .             |1         .    .    +                |
> > 1       .
> >           .  +--+   10+----+       .    .   N8              +---
> > +      .
> >           .  |H1|-----|RT12|       .    .                   |
> > RT8|      .
> >           .  +--+SLIP +----+       .    .                   +---
> > +      .
> >           .             |2         .    .                     |
> > 4       .
> >           .             |          .    .
> > |        .
> >           .        +---------+     .    .                 +--------
> > +   .
> >           .            N10         .    .
> > N7       .
> >           .                        .    .Area
> > 2                        .
> >           .Area
> > 3                  .    ................................
> >           ..........................
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) In the above ospf topology according to ospf rfc 2328 in section
> > 3.4, it states that
> >
> >    "Note that a failure of the line between Routers RT6 and RT10
> >    will cause the backbone to become disconnected."
> >
> > Though there is router RT7 in area 2 still connected to the
> > backbone.It confused my understanding of
> > disconnected backbone area. Can someone shed some light on this.
>
> I believe this issue has been raised before although I couldn't find
> an errata. The figure is incorrect. Network N8 should be in the
> backbone area rather than Area 2.
>
>
> >
> >
> > 2) why should routers connected by a point to point link having
> > interface addresses assigned,
> >   should advertise a stub link a stub connection to the other
> > router's interface address.
>
> This dates back to the fact that P2P links were represented as a host
> route to the destination network on BSD based systems. Those of you
> who are familiar with GateD will remember this. Note that there is
> also an option to represent/advertise P2P links as a subnets. Most if
> not all routers vendors advertise the subnet.

Do you have a choice here? I read the RFC that if the P2P link has
a host route (mask = 255.255.255.255) you have to advertise a stub
link to the other router's interface address.

>
> Hope this helps,
> Acee


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Hi Joakim,



On Oct 6, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:

>>
>> Hi Sinbad,
>> See inline.
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:20 AM, Sinbad wrote:
>>
>>>              ...........................
>>>              .   +                     .
>>>              .   | 3+---+              .      N12      N14
>>>              . N1|--|RT1|\ 1           .        \ N13 /
>>>              .   |  +---+ \            .        8\ |8/8
>>>              .   +         \ ____      .          \|/
>>>              .              /    \   1+---+8    8+---+6
>>>              .             *  N3  *---|RT4|------|RT5|--------+
>>>              .              \____/    +---+      +---+        |
>>>              .    +         /      \   .           |7         |
>>>              .    | 3+---+ /        \  .           |          |
>>>              .  N2|--|RT2|/1        1\ .           |6         |
>>>              .    |  +---+            +---+8    6+---+        |
>>>              .    +                   |RT3|------|RT6|        |
>>>              .                        +---+      +---+        |
>>>              .                      2/ .         Ia|7         |
>>>              .                      /  .           |          |
>>>              .             +---------+ .           |          |
>>>              .Area 1           N4      .           |          |
>>>              ...........................           |          |
>>>           ..........................               |          |
>>>           .            N11         .               |          |
>>>           .        +---------+     .               |          |
>>>           .             |          .               |           
>>> |    N12
>>>           .             |3         .             Ib|5         |6 2/
>>>           .           +---+        .             +----+     +---+/
>>>           .           |RT9|        .    .........|RT10|.....|RT7|---
>>> N15.
>>>           .           +---+        .    .        +----+     +---+
>>> 9    .
>>>           .             |1         .    .    +  /3    1\      |
>>> 1       .
>>>           .            _|__        .    .    | /        \   __|
>>> _       .
>>>           .           /    \      1+----+2   |/          \ /
>>> \      .
>>>           .          *  N9  *------|RT11|----|            *  N6
>>> *     .
>>>           .           \____/       +----+    |
>>> \____/      .
>>>           .             |          .    .    |
>>> |        .
>>>           .             |1         .    .    +                |
>>> 1       .
>>>           .  +--+   10+----+       .    .   N8              +---
>>> +      .
>>>           .  |H1|-----|RT12|       .    .                   |
>>> RT8|      .
>>>           .  +--+SLIP +----+       .    .                   +---
>>> +      .
>>>           .             |2         .    .                     |
>>> 4       .
>>>           .             |          .    .
>>> |        .
>>>           .        +---------+     .    .                 +--------
>>> +   .
>>>           .            N10         .    .
>>> N7       .
>>>           .                        .    .Area
>>> 2                        .
>>>           .Area
>>> 3                  .    ................................
>>>           ..........................
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) In the above ospf topology according to ospf rfc 2328 in section
>>> 3.4, it states that
>>>
>>>    "Note that a failure of the line between Routers RT6 and RT10
>>>    will cause the backbone to become disconnected."
>>>
>>> Though there is router RT7 in area 2 still connected to the
>>> backbone.It confused my understanding of
>>> disconnected backbone area. Can someone shed some light on this.
>>
>> I believe this issue has been raised before although I couldn't find
>> an errata. The figure is incorrect. Network N8 should be in the
>> backbone area rather than Area 2.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2) why should routers connected by a point to point link having
>>> interface addresses assigned,
>>>   should advertise a stub link a stub connection to the other
>>> router's interface address.
>>
>> This dates back to the fact that P2P links were represented as a host
>> route to the destination network on BSD based systems. Those of you
>> who are familiar with GateD will remember this. Note that there is
>> also an option to represent/advertise P2P links as a subnets. Most if
>> not all routers vendors advertise the subnet.
>
> Do you have a choice here? I read the RFC that if the P2P link has
> a host route (mask = 255.255.255.255) you have to advertise a stub
> link to the other router's interface address.

 From RFC 2328:

             12.4.1.1.  Describing point-to-point interfaces

                 For point-to-point interfaces, one or more link
                 descriptions are added to the router-LSA as follows:

                 o   If the neighboring router is fully adjacent, add a
                     Type 1 link (point-to-point). The Link ID should be
                     set to the Router ID of the neighboring router. For
                     numbered point-to-point networks, the Link Data
                     should specify the IP interface address. For
                     unnumbered point-to-point networks, the Link Data
                     field should specify the interface's MIB-II [Ref8]
                     ifIndex value. The cost should be set to the output
                     cost of the point-to-point interface.

                 o   In addition, as long as the state of the interface
                     is "Point-to-Point" (and regardless of the
                     neighboring router state), a Type 3 link (stub
                     network) should be added. There are two forms that
                     this stub link can take:

                     Option 1
                         Assuming that the neighboring router's IP
                         address is known, set the Link ID of the Type 3
                         link to the neighbor's IP address, the Link  
Data
                         to the mask 0xffffffff (indicating a host
                         route), and the cost to the interface's
                         configured output cost.[15]

                     Option 2
                         If a subnet has been assigned to the point-to-
                         point link, set the Link ID of the Type 3 link
                         to the subnet's IP address, the Link Data to  
the
                         subnet's mask, and the cost to the interface's
                         configured output cost.[16]

Hope this helps,
Acee





>
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Acee
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&nbsp; </span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>+ =
<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>\ ____<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>\|/</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>/<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>\ <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>1+---+8<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>8+---+6</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>*<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
</span>N3<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
</span>*---|RT4|------|RT5|--------+</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>\____/<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+---+<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+---+<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>+ <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>/<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>\ <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>. =
<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>|7 <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>| 3+---+ /<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>\<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
</span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
</span>N2|--|RT2|/1<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>1\ . <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|6 <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>+---+<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>+---+8<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>6+---+<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>+ <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|RT3|------|RT6|<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>+---+<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>+---+<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>2/ =
. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>Ia|7 <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>/<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>. <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+---------+ . <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.Area 1 <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>N4<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>........................... <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.......................... <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>N11 <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. =
<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>+---------+ <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>N12</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|3 <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. =
<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>Ib|5 <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|6 2/</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+---+<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+----+ <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+---+/</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|RT9|<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.........|RT10|.....|RT7|---</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
">N15.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+---+<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+----+ <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>+---+</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">9<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|1 <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>+<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>/3<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>1\<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">1 <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>_|__<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>| =
/<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>\ <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
</span>__|</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_ <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>/<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>\<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>1+----+2 =
<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>|/<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>\ /</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">\<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>*<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>N9<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>*------|RT11|----|<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>*<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
</span>N6</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">* <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>\____/ <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+----+<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">\____/<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|1 <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>+<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1 <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
</span>+--+ <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>10+----+ =
<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>N8<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+---</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">+<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
</span>|H1|-----|RT12| <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">RT8|<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>+--+SLIP =
+----+ <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. =
<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+---</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">+<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;=
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|2 <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span>. =
<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>|</div><div style=3D"margin-top:=
 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">4 <span =
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</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>+---------+ <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>. <span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>+--------</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
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</span>.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
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</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>N10 <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">N7 <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; </span>.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>.Area</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">2<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.Area</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">3<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span>.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>................................</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
</span>..........................</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: =
14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1) In =
the above ospf topology according to ospf rfc 2328 in section</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">3.4, it states that</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>"Note that a failure =
of the line between Routers RT6 and RT10</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>will cause the =
backbone to become disconnected."</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: =
14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Though there is router RT7 in =
area 2 still connected to the</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">backbone.It =
confused my understanding of</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">disconnected =
backbone area. Can someone shed some light on this.</div> =
</blockquote><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">I believe this issue has been raised before although =
I couldn't find</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">an errata. The figure is =
incorrect. Network N8 should be in the</div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">backbone =
area rather than Area 2.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: =
14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> =
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; =
"><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">2) why should routers connected by a point to point =
link having</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">interface addresses =
assigned,</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp; </span>should advertise a stub =
link a stub connection to the other</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">router's =
interface address.</div> </blockquote><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: =
14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">This dates back to the fact that =
P2P links were represented as a host</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">route to the =
destination network on BSD based systems. Those of you</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">who are familiar with GateD will remember this. Note =
that there is</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">also an option to =
represent/advertise P2P links as a subnets. Most if</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">not all routers vendors advertise the subnet.</div> =
</blockquote><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">Do you have a choice here? I read the RFC that if =
the P2P link has</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">a host route (mask =3D =
255.255.255.255) you have to advertise a stub</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; ">link to the other router's interface =
address.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>=46rom RFC =
2328:</div><div><br></div><div><pre>            12.4.1.1.  Describing =
point-to-point interfaces

                For point-to-point interfaces, one or more link
                descriptions are added to the router-LSA as follows:

                o   If the neighboring router is fully adjacent, add a
                    Type 1 link (point-to-point). The Link ID should be
                    set to the Router ID of the neighboring router. For
                    numbered point-to-point networks, the Link Data
                    should specify the IP interface address. For
                    unnumbered point-to-point networks, the Link Data
                    field should specify the interface's MIB-II [Ref8]
                    ifIndex value. The cost should be set to the output
                    cost of the point-to-point interface.

                o   In addition, as long as the state of the interface
                    is "Point-to-Point" (and regardless of the
                    neighboring router state), a Type 3 link (stub
                    network) should be added. There are two forms that
                    this stub link can take:

                    Option 1
                        Assuming that the neighboring router's IP
                        address is known, set the Link ID of the Type 3
                        link to the neighbor's IP address, the Link Data
                        to the mask 0xffffffff (indicating a host
                        route), and the cost to the interface's
                        configured output cost.[15]

                    Option 2
                        If a subnet has been assigned to the point-to-
                        point link, set the Link ID of the Type 3 link
                        to the subnet's IP address, the Link Data to the
                        subnet's mask, and the cost to the interface's
                        configured output cost.[16]

Hope this =
helps,</pre><pre>Acee</pre></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top:=
 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; =
min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hope =
this helps,</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Acee</div> </blockquote><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> =
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>
> Hi Joakim,
>
> On Oct 6, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
>
> Hi Sinbad,
> See inline.
>
> On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:20 AM, Sinbad wrote:
>
>              ...........................
>              .   +                     .
>              .   | 3+---+              .      N12      N14
>              . N1|--|RT1|\ 1           .        \ N13 /
>              .   |  +---+ \            .        8\ |8/8
>              .   +         \ ____      .          \|/
>              .              /    \   1+---+8    8+---+6
>              .             *  N3  *---|RT4|------|RT5|--------+
>              .              \____/    +---+      +---+        |
>              .    +         /      \   .           |7         |
>              .    | 3+---+ /        \  .           |          |
>              .  N2|--|RT2|/1        1\ .           |6         |
>              .    |  +---+            +---+8    6+---+        |
>              .    +                   |RT3|------|RT6|        |
>              .                        +---+      +---+        |
>              .                      2/ .         Ia|7         |
>              .                      /  .           |          |
>              .             +---------+ .           |          |
>              .Area 1           N4      .           |          |
>              ...........................           |          |
>           ..........................               |          |
>           .            N11         .               |          |
>           .        +---------+     .               |          |
>           .             |          .               |          |    N12
>           .             |3         .             Ib|5         |6 2/
>           .           +---+        .             +----+     +---+/
>           .           |RT9|        .    .........|RT10|.....|RT7|---
> N15.
>           .           +---+        .    .        +----+     +---+
> 9    .
>           .             |1         .    .    +  /3    1\      |
> 1       .
>           .            _|__        .    .    | /        \   __|
> _       .
>           .           /    \      1+----+2   |/          \ /
> \      .
>           .          *  N9  *------|RT11|----|            *  N6
> *     .
>           .           \____/       +----+    |
> \____/      .
>           .             |          .    .    |
> |        .
>           .             |1         .    .    +                |
> 1       .
>           .  +--+   10+----+       .    .   N8              +---
> +      .
>           .  |H1|-----|RT12|       .    .                   |
> RT8|      .
>           .  +--+SLIP +----+       .    .                   +---
> +      .
>           .             |2         .    .                     |
> 4       .
>           .             |          .    .
> |        .
>           .        +---------+     .    .                 +--------
> +   .
>           .            N10         .    .
> N7       .
>           .                        .    .Area
> 2                        .
>           .Area
> 3                  .    ................................
>           ..........................
>
> 1) In the above ospf topology according to ospf rfc 2328 in section
> 3.4, it states that
>
>    "Note that a failure of the line between Routers RT6 and RT10
>    will cause the backbone to become disconnected."
>
> Though there is router RT7 in area 2 still connected to the
> backbone.It confused my understanding of
> disconnected backbone area. Can someone shed some light on this.
>
> I believe this issue has been raised before although I couldn't find
> an errata. The figure is incorrect. Network N8 should be in the
> backbone area rather than Area 2.
>
> 2) why should routers connected by a point to point link having
> interface addresses assigned,
>   should advertise a stub link a stub connection to the other
> router's interface address.
>
> This dates back to the fact that P2P links were represented as a host
> route to the destination network on BSD based systems. Those of you
> who are familiar with GateD will remember this. Note that there is
> also an option to represent/advertise P2P links as a subnets. Most if
> not all routers vendors advertise the subnet.
>
> Do you have a choice here? I read the RFC that if the P2P link has
> a host route (mask = 255.255.255.255) you have to advertise a stub
> link to the other router's interface address.
>
> From RFC 2328:
>
>             12.4.1.1.  Describing point-to-point interfaces
>
>                 For point-to-point interfaces, one or more link
>                 descriptions are added to the router-LSA as follows:
>
>                 o   If the neighboring router is fully adjacent, add a
>                     Type 1 link (point-to-point). The Link ID should be
>                     set to the Router ID of the neighboring router. For
>                     numbered point-to-point networks, the Link Data
>                     should specify the IP interface address. For
>                     unnumbered point-to-point networks, the Link Data
>                     field should specify the interface's MIB-II [Ref8]
>                     ifIndex value. The cost should be set to the output
>                     cost of the point-to-point interface.
>
>                 o   In addition, as long as the state of the interface
>                     is "Point-to-Point" (and regardless of the
>                     neighboring router state), a Type 3 link (stub
>                     network) should be added. There are two forms that
>                     this stub link can take:
>
>                     Option 1
>                         Assuming that the neighboring router's IP
>                         address is known, set the Link ID of the Type 3
>                         link to the neighbor's IP address, the Link Data
>                         to the mask 0xffffffff (indicating a host
>                         route), and the cost to the interface's
>                         configured output cost.[15]
>
>                     Option 2
>                         If a subnet has been assigned to the point-to-
>                         point link, set the Link ID of the Type 3 link
>                         to the subnet's IP address, the Link Data to the
>                         subnet's mask, and the cost to the interface's
>                         configured output cost.[16]

but mask 255.255.255.255 does not qualify as a subnet? So
that leaves only Option 1

   Jocke


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On Oct 6, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:

<pruned>

>>
>> 2) why should routers connected by a point to point link having
>> interface addresses assigned,
>>   should advertise a stub link a stub connection to the other
>> router's interface address.
>>
>> This dates back to the fact that P2P links were represented as a host
>> route to the destination network on BSD based systems. Those of you
>> who are familiar with GateD will remember this. Note that there is
>> also an option to represent/advertise P2P links as a subnets. Most if
>> not all routers vendors advertise the subnet.
>>
>> Do you have a choice here? I read the RFC that if the P2P link has
>> a host route (mask = 255.255.255.255) you have to advertise a stub
>> link to the other router's interface address.
>>
>> From RFC 2328:
>>
>>             12.4.1.1.  Describing point-to-point interfaces
>>
>>                 For point-to-point interfaces, one or more link
>>                 descriptions are added to the router-LSA as follows:
>>
>>                 o   If the neighboring router is fully adjacent,  
>> add a
>>                     Type 1 link (point-to-point). The Link ID  
>> should be
>>                     set to the Router ID of the neighboring  
>> router. For
>>                     numbered point-to-point networks, the Link Data
>>                     should specify the IP interface address. For
>>                     unnumbered point-to-point networks, the Link Data
>>                     field should specify the interface's MIB-II  
>> [Ref8]
>>                     ifIndex value. The cost should be set to the  
>> output
>>                     cost of the point-to-point interface.
>>
>>                 o   In addition, as long as the state of the  
>> interface
>>                     is "Point-to-Point" (and regardless of the
>>                     neighboring router state), a Type 3 link (stub
>>                     network) should be added. There are two forms  
>> that
>>                     this stub link can take:
>>
>>                     Option 1
>>                         Assuming that the neighboring router's IP
>>                         address is known, set the Link ID of the  
>> Type 3
>>                         link to the neighbor's IP address, the  
>> Link Data
>>                         to the mask 0xffffffff (indicating a host
>>                         route), and the cost to the interface's
>>                         configured output cost.[15]
>>
>>                     Option 2
>>                         If a subnet has been assigned to the point- 
>> to-
>>                         point link, set the Link ID of the Type 3  
>> link
>>                         to the subnet's IP address, the Link Data  
>> to the
>>                         subnet's mask, and the cost to the  
>> interface's
>>                         configured output cost.[16]
>
> but mask 255.255.255.255 does not qualify as a subnet? So
> that leaves only Option 1

Yes - if you use 255.255.255.255, you will need to support option 1.  
We already have 2 options, we don't need a third.

Acee



>
>    Jocke
>


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Acee Lindem <acee@lindem.com> wrote on 06/10/2009 20:19:25:

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> Joakim Tjernlund <joakim.tjernlund@transmode.se>
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> Subject:
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> Re: [OSPF] ospf backbone area
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Joakim Tjernlund wrote:
>
> <pruned>
>
> >>
> >> 2) why should routers connected by a point to point link having
> >> interface addresses assigned,
> >>   should advertise a stub link a stub connection to the other
> >> router's interface address.
> >>
> >> This dates back to the fact that P2P links were represented as a host
> >> route to the destination network on BSD based systems. Those of you
> >> who are familiar with GateD will remember this. Note that there is
> >> also an option to represent/advertise P2P links as a subnets. Most if
> >> not all routers vendors advertise the subnet.
> >>
> >> Do you have a choice here? I read the RFC that if the P2P link has
> >> a host route (mask = 255.255.255.255) you have to advertise a stub
> >> link to the other router's interface address.
> >>
> >> From RFC 2328:
> >>
> >>             12.4.1.1.  Describing point-to-point interfaces
> >>
> >>                 For point-to-point interfaces, one or more link
> >>                 descriptions are added to the router-LSA as follows:
> >>
> >>                 o   If the neighboring router is fully adjacent,
> >> add a
> >>                     Type 1 link (point-to-point). The Link ID
> >> should be
> >>                     set to the Router ID of the neighboring
> >> router. For
> >>                     numbered point-to-point networks, the Link Data
> >>                     should specify the IP interface address. For
> >>                     unnumbered point-to-point networks, the Link Data
> >>                     field should specify the interface's MIB-II
> >> [Ref8]
> >>                     ifIndex value. The cost should be set to the
> >> output
> >>                     cost of the point-to-point interface.
> >>
> >>                 o   In addition, as long as the state of the
> >> interface
> >>                     is "Point-to-Point" (and regardless of the
> >>                     neighboring router state), a Type 3 link (stub
> >>                     network) should be added. There are two forms
> >> that
> >>                     this stub link can take:
> >>
> >>                     Option 1
> >>                         Assuming that the neighboring router's IP
> >>                         address is known, set the Link ID of the
> >> Type 3
> >>                         link to the neighbor's IP address, the
> >> Link Data
> >>                         to the mask 0xffffffff (indicating a host
> >>                         route), and the cost to the interface's
> >>                         configured output cost.[15]
> >>
> >>                     Option 2
> >>                         If a subnet has been assigned to the point-
> >> to-
> >>                         point link, set the Link ID of the Type 3
> >> link
> >>                         to the subnet's IP address, the Link Data
> >> to the
> >>                         subnet's mask, and the cost to the
> >> interface's
> >>                         configured output cost.[16]
> >
> > but mask 255.255.255.255 does not qualify as a subnet? So
> > that leaves only Option 1
>
> Yes - if you use 255.255.255.255, you will need to support option 1.
> We already have 2 options, we don't need a third.

Maybe I read too much into this statement:
 "This dates back to the fact that P2P links were represented as a host
  route to the destination network on BSD based systems. Those of you
  who are familiar with GateD will remember this. Note that there is
  also an option to represent/advertise P2P links as a subnets. Most if
  not all routers vendors advertise the subnet."
I got the impression that you meant that you could choose to advertise P2P/32
with Option 2 instead of Option 1. I guess I read too much into it :)


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FYI. We submitted the following draft.

Comments are more than welcome.

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	Title           : Multi-Topology OSPFv3 for IPv4-mapped IPv6
	Author(s)       : M. Boucadair, et al.
	Filename        : draft-boucadair-ospf-v4v6-ospfv3-mt-01.txt
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	Date            : 2009-10-20

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Dear Acee, all,

Actually, no. Two drafts have been submitted: one for multi-topology and an=
other one for multi-instance. We don't want to make any choice about the us=
e of MT or MI. It is up to the SP's taste.

Sorry for the confusion.

Cheers,
Med=20


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=C0 : BOUCADAIR Mohamed NCPI/NAD/TIP; behave@ietf.org; ospf@ietf.org
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Hi Mohamed,
I take it then that draft-boucadair-ospf-v4v6-ospfv3-mi-01.txt was a misnam=
ed version of draft-boucadair-ospf-v4v6-ospfv3-mt-01.txt and should be igno=
red. Correct?=20
Thanks,
Acee=20
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|
|FYI. We submitted the following draft.
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|Comments are more than welcome.
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|Cheers,
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|A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20
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|
|	Title           : Multi-Topology OSPFv3 for IPv4-mapped IPv6
|	Author(s)       : M. Boucadair, et al.
|	Filename        : draft-boucadair-ospf-v4v6-ospfv3-mt-01.txt
|	Pages           : 7
|	Date            : 2009-10-20
|
|This memo defines two new Multi Topology Routing Identifiers (MT IDs)=20
|in OSPFv3 [RFC2740]).  These new MT-OSPFv3 [I-D.ietf-ospf-mt-ospfv3]=20
|topologies are meant to convey routing information which is restricted=20
|to IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses [I-D.ietf-behave-address-format].  The=20
|goal of running separate instances for IPv4-mapped IPv6 routes is to=20
|isolate the IPv6 routing table from the IPv4 routing table, and to=20
|avoid any overload due to the population of the table by IPv4-inferred=20
|routes.  This isolation is motivated also from an operational=20
|perspective to enforce specific routing policies for each topology.
|
|A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
|http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-boucadair-ospf-v4v6-o
|spfv3-mt-01.txt
|
|The URL for the multi-instance draft is:
|http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-boucadair-ospf-v4v6-o
|spfv3-mi-01.txt
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Hi Mohamed,
Perhaps a single draft would have sufficed.=20
Thanks,
Acee=20

|-----Original Message-----
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|Behalf Of mohamed.boucadair@orange-ftgroup.com
|Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:52 AM
|To: Acee Lindem; behave@ietf.org; ospf@ietf.org
|Subject: Re: [OSPF] Multi-Topology/Instance OSPFv3 for IPv4-mapped IPv6
|
|
|Dear Acee, all,
|
|Actually, no. Two drafts have been submitted: one for=20
|multi-topology and another one for multi-instance. We don't=20
|want to make any choice about the use of MT or MI. It is up to=20
|the SP's taste.
|
|Sorry for the confusion.
|
|Cheers,
|Med=20
|
|
|-----Message d'origine-----
|De : Acee Lindem [mailto:acee.lindem@ericsson.com] Envoy=E9 :=20
|mercredi 21 octobre 2009 15:07 =C0 : BOUCADAIR Mohamed=20
|NCPI/NAD/TIP; behave@ietf.org; ospf@ietf.org Objet : RE:=20
|Multi-Topology/Instance OSPFv3 for IPv4-mapped IPv6
|
|Hi Mohamed,
|I take it then that draft-boucadair-ospf-v4v6-ospfv3-mi-01.txt=20
|was a misnamed version of=20
|draft-boucadair-ospf-v4v6-ospfv3-mt-01.txt and should be=20
|ignored. Correct?=20
|Thanks,
|Acee=20
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||Subject: [OSPF] Multi-Topology/Instance OSPFv3 for IPv4-mapped IPv6
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||Dear all,
||
||FYI. We submitted the following draft.
||
||Comments are more than welcome.
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||Cheers,
||Med
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||A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20
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||
||	Title           : Multi-Topology OSPFv3 for IPv4-mapped IPv6
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||	Pages           : 7
||	Date            : 2009-10-20
||
||This memo defines two new Multi Topology Routing Identifiers (MT IDs)=20
||in OSPFv3 [RFC2740]).  These new MT-OSPFv3 [I-D.ietf-ospf-mt-ospfv3]=20
||topologies are meant to convey routing information which is=20
|restricted=20
||to IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses [I-D.ietf-behave-address-format].  The=20
||goal of running separate instances for IPv4-mapped IPv6 routes is to=20
||isolate the IPv6 routing table from the IPv4 routing table, and to=20
||avoid any overload due to the population of the table by=20
|IPv4-inferred=20
||routes.  This isolation is motivated also from an operational=20
||perspective to enforce specific routing policies for each topology.
||
||A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
||http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-boucadair-ospf-v4v6-o
||spfv3-mt-01.txt
||
||The URL for the multi-instance draft is:
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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 5709

        Title:      OSPFv2 HMAC-SHA Cryptographic Authentication 
        Author:     M. Bhatia, V. Manral,
                    M. Fanto, R. White,
                    M. Barnes, T. Li,
                    R. Atkinson
        Status:     Standards Track
        Date:       October 2009
        Mailbox:    manav@alcatel-lucent.com, 
                    vishwas@ipinfusion.com, 
                    mfanto@aegisdatasecurity.com,
                    riw@cisco.com, 
                    mjbarnes@cisco.com,
                    tony.li@tony.li, 
                    rja@extremenetworks.com
        Pages:      14
        Characters: 30221
        Updates:    RFC2328

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-ospf-hmac-sha-07.txt

        URL:        http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5709.txt

This document describes how the National Institute of Standards and
Technology (NIST) Secure Hash Standard family of
algorithms can be used with OSPF version 2's built-in, cryptographic
authentication mechanism.  This updates, but does not supercede,
the cryptographic authentication mechanism specified in RFC 2328.
[STANDARDS TRACK]

This document is a product of the Open Shortest Path First IGP Working Group of the IETF.

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