From nobody Mon Mar 3 02:41:20 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D267F1A0E1F for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 02:41:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8sx-2udDsQ0Y for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 02:41:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x231.google.com (mail-wg0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4081A0C0B for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2014 02:41:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id b13so1140267wgh.8 for ; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 02:41:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version; bh=3mlNzgJbTb80s2Qv49FBG2leVXD9xJoQGTLGhTM6970=; b=gO8Aeg2dcuoIhEa5KqsuqJbgKY0Ncs8hG6jmn8t4W6qtgu4YWKVns/VizXN/U0/QD2 wbMVsu94JZA2hdRFpjJjFDL2WBo7zS8jwf18jStjQBRPUOACqJAVkVrZffOT8aEvZ0fH TNJbCIsXyANdRsiyhsf1BXf2ByPSmggyMRcH5BNQpZH3Fsi4YsRwnr/HKnVdioAJqqfN rsq0HLONb2u1Yw9Zrs46XTYnx7GTMVLrl2JmqMEj1bK2FubzcE/rGUJbED5lyLLh/2sC puP0qF6BPmd0o+fkqAdmm9ZXp0dTKV/mLgi++XKc2zX51iDLwG1VmCj9/If+Mccufkm+ FoPw== X-Received: by 10.194.190.10 with SMTP id gm10mr6012413wjc.55.1393843269241; Mon, 03 Mar 2014 02:41:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-b378.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-b378.meeting.ietf.org. [31.133.179.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t5sm33182426wjw.15.2014.03.03.02.41.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Mar 2014 02:41:08 -0800 (PST) From: RJ Atkinson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 05:41:06 -0500 Message-Id: <328D06B6-9CA8-44DB-A3E8-71CDB878C7F8@gmail.com> To: ospf@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ospf/tHSa72BoLeS5LfoFlhS8p1Y5vUs Subject: [OSPF] OSPF over IPv4: use case example X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:41:19 -0000 Hi, During the OSPF meeting (taking place now), Abhay recently asked why IPv6 link-local addressing is not a sufficient solution for OSPFv3 deployments (with AF extension) in IPv4-only networks. As we discussed during the meeting, there are some deployed link types that do not yet support IPv6 packets *at all*. However, one imagines that over time, such links will have equipment upgrades to have full dual-stack (IPv4 + IPv6) support. Using OSPFv3/IPv4 now with the AF extension -- and later migrating to OSPFv3 -- can reduce operations costs significantly in at least some deployments that I'm familiar with. For example, some deployed IP/VSAT terminals either (A) have Ethernet interfaces that only support ARP and IPv4 [e.g., using EtherType to filter in hardware] OR (B) have serial interfaces that again only support IPv4/PPP packets. ASIDE with more context: For those who don't use SATCOM much, The term VSAT is precisely defined as "Very Small Aperture Terminal". "Very Small Aperture" typically means that the SATCOM dish on the ground is roughly 1m in diameter, rather than the rather larger SATCOM dishes used in some other deployments. VSATs are quite commonly used around the whole globe, in both developed and less developed regions. Within North America they commonly are used to connect retail sites (e.g. banks, petrol stations, consumer electronics stores) back to the central site for that business. Separately, it would not be odd for a VSAT deployment to have an uplink speed that is ~10% of the downlink speed. Yours, Ran Atkinson From nobody Sun Mar 9 09:31:35 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350441A0268 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 09:31:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7oPLsrUb6t2o for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 09:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D111A0277 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 09:31:30 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-b7f2f8e000002cdc-27-531c94750ed8 Received: from EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.93]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id C8.13.11484.5749C135; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 17:19:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB101.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.118]) by EUSAAHC007.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.93]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 12:31:25 -0400 From: Acee Lindem To: RJ Atkinson , "ospf@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [OSPF] OSPF over IPv4: use case example Thread-Index: AQHPO7UD41b2ErhEqEiQ1wH2CEIvBw== Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 16:31:24 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <328D06B6-9CA8-44DB-A3E8-71CDB878C7F8@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.6.130613 x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.12] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2E200BA8ACC2934286E9921B5B2A8D6A@ericsson.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrJLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPrG7ZFJlgg1t3+C1a7t1jt7i/o4fR gclj56y77B5LlvxkCmCK4rJJSc3JLEst0rdL4MrYtfg0a8E6/or1kx6wNDBu4eli5OSQEDCR aHuzmRHCFpO4cG89WxcjF4eQwBFGiW0n2pghnGWMEvPbzzOBVLEJ6Eg8f/SPGcQWEXCT+HH9 BDuILQw0adqzUywQcVOJaw8a2SFsPYljfz8C1XNwsAioSEx8EQAS5gUquf/oBtgYTgFbiYtr H4GVMwId8f3UGrBVzALiEreezGeCOE5AYsme88wQtqjEy8f/WEFsUaDx3bOWs0LElSTmvL7G DNGrI7Fg9yc2CNta4v/ZlawQtrbEsoWvmSFuEJQ4OfMJywRGsVlI1s1C0j4LSfssJO2zkLQv YGRdxchRWpxalptuZLiJERg9xyTYHHcwLvhkeYhRmoNFSZz3y1vnICGB9MSS1OzU1ILUovii 0pzU4kOMTBycUg2MTta/hK7zmsZ9vXFt5bkfLHfvNTGZLErnSbe97rnZRSJXv1bHzawmNT6Q Kc049/riFR8Wb7t0/dC1q4f3Nii79u+S+p/R2Sub49Khoc97b+ax/x7+T1ccWdi79LjIj/en E8sfnZnK4yAS9VgrhXX6tvNr23wi8zYbnZK99JLhCY+W44l25TfTlFiKMxINtZiLihMB1pQV umwCAAA= Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ospf/PK9t1c9xtAslyJGsgmE1bUoieFk Subject: Re: [OSPF] OSPF over IPv4: use case example X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 16:31:33 -0000 Hi Ran,=20 We will add this use case to the draft. Thanks, Acee=20 On 3/3/14 2:41 AM, "RJ Atkinson" wrote: >Hi, > >During the OSPF meeting (taking place now), Abhay recently >asked why IPv6 link-local addressing is not a sufficient >solution for OSPFv3 deployments (with AF extension) >in IPv4-only networks. > >As we discussed during the meeting, there are some >deployed link types that do not yet support IPv6 packets >*at all*. However, one imagines that over time, such >links will have equipment upgrades to have full dual-stack >(IPv4 + IPv6) support. Using OSPFv3/IPv4 now with the >AF extension -- and later migrating to OSPFv3 -- can >reduce operations costs significantly in at least some >deployments that I'm familiar with. > >For example, some deployed IP/VSAT terminals either >(A) have Ethernet interfaces that only support ARP >and IPv4 [e.g., using EtherType to filter in hardware] >OR=20 >(B) have serial interfaces that again only support >IPv4/PPP packets.=20 > > >ASIDE with more context: > For those who don't use SATCOM much, The term VSAT is > precisely defined as "Very Small Aperture Terminal". > "Very Small Aperture" typically means that the SATCOM > dish on the ground is roughly 1m in diameter, rather > than the rather larger SATCOM dishes used in some other > deployments. VSATs are quite commonly used around the > whole globe, in both developed and less developed regions. > =20 > Within North America they commonly are used to connect > retail sites (e.g. banks, petrol stations, consumer > electronics stores) back to the central site for that > business. > > Separately, it would not be odd for a VSAT deployment > to have an uplink speed that is ~10% of the downlink speed. > >Yours, > >Ran Atkinson > >_______________________________________________ >OSPF mailing list >OSPF@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf From nobody Sun Mar 9 10:58:42 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABAB1A02AD for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 10:58:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QJxtrCIq_n-w for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 10:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B341A02AA for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 10:58:38 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-b7f2f8e000002cdc-35-531ca8e0e166 Received: from EUSAAHC002.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.78]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id F4.93.11484.0E8AC135; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 18:46:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB101.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.118]) by EUSAAHC002.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.78]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 13:58:31 -0400 From: Acee Lindem To: OSPF - OSPF WG List Thread-Topic: IETF 89 OSPF WG Meeting Minutes Thread-Index: AQHPO8EtYBOqH/w2002Z7qfgnKdUSg== Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 17:58:30 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.6.130613 x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.9] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CF41F9DA29C82aceelindemericssoncom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrALMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXSPn+6DFTLBBg8OSlu03LvH7sDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujI/vjrEWPOOsWDj1OnsD43WOLkZODgkBE4mj934wQ9hiEhfu rWfrYuTiEBI4wihxa/o5JghnGaPEzNXfWUGq2AR0JJ4/+gfWISKgLrF68m6wuLCApsSNza/Y IOJ6Emd7n8LZM+7cB7NZBFQknsxeygRi8wqYSrRsXMICYjMCbf5+ag1YnFlAXOLWk/lMEBcJ SCzZcx7qOlGJl4//ge0SBZrZPWs5K0RcUWJf/3R2iN4oiaPf/0LNF5Q4OfMJywRG4VlIxs5C UjYLSRlEXEdiwe5PbBC2tsSyha+ZYewzBx5D9VpLPP7Xi6JmASPHKkaO0uLUstx0I8NNjMBY OSbB5riDccEny0OM0hwsSuK8X946BwkJpCeWpGanphakFsUXleakFh9iZOLglGpgnFe2VnV+ gPCBY50xHvZrL5m1r5q9dsqV588ln0xdeVJzWlK0TdCtbDcxMYmi9UpMQrpGmfua4upU1jPH LZFdvW5+d3K+UeHZEz6B8778Z0h92rGKMe2Wdmrqj2Phh12mfF+n0fbqb4nZyj+6h+3mst46 Wnhii72f+Lv3PDaGEZfjDygXTwtKUWIpzkg01GIuKk4EABorG2JjAgAA Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ospf/fAczum7IaB2kaknM541mLXjo2_Q Subject: [OSPF] IETF 89 OSPF WG Meeting Minutes X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 17:58:40 -0000 --_000_CF41F9DA29C82aceelindemericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've uploaded the meeting minutes for Monday's OSPF WG meeting in Berlin. T= hanks again to Les Ginsberg from Cisco for taking them. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/minutes/minutes-89-ospf Acee --_000_CF41F9DA29C82aceelindemericssoncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <0DFD448D091EE740B6C0A0B9CE144C32@ericsson.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've uploaded the meeting minutes for Monday's OSPF WG meeting in Berl= in. Thanks again to Les Ginsberg from Cisco for taking them. 


Acee
--_000_CF41F9DA29C82aceelindemericssoncom_-- From nobody Sun Mar 9 12:11:48 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71A61A02B7 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 12:11:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ym_Bf8i5MmH2 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 12:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 999D01A00AA for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2014 12:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [65.190.6.125] ([65.190.6.125:43565] helo=[10.0.1.9]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 49/1B-15561-9ECBC135; Sun, 09 Mar 2014 19:11:38 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B5F386D9-2070-4753-8B0B-8A23DB6A6067" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Acee Lindem In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 15:11:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: To: Acee Lindem X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.130:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ospf/RMBjR7duHUiF4Y51D3Q7r2eiR94 Cc: OSPF List Subject: Re: [OSPF] IETF 89 OSPF WG Meeting Minutes X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 19:11:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B5F386D9-2070-4753-8B0B-8A23DB6A6067 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Of course I meant London rather than Berlin. Hard to get those two = confused. ;^) =20 Acee On Mar 9, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Acee Lindem = wrote: > I've uploaded the meeting minutes for Monday's OSPF WG meeting in = Berlin. Thanks again to Les Ginsberg from Cisco for taking them.=20 >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/minutes/minutes-89-ospf >=20 > Acee > _______________________________________________ > OSPF mailing list > OSPF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf --Apple-Mail=_B5F386D9-2070-4753-8B0B-8A23DB6A6067 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Of course I meant London rather than Berlin. Hard to get those two confused. ;^)  

Acee
On Mar 9, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Acee Lindem <acee.lindem@ericsson.com> wrote:

I've uploaded the meeting minutes for Monday's OSPF WG meeting in Berlin. Thanks again to Les Ginsberg from Cisco for taking them. 


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--Apple-Mail=_B5F386D9-2070-4753-8B0B-8A23DB6A6067-- From nobody Wed Mar 12 12:46:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524701A0784; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:46:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LvHWzy_Ivv40; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2607:f170:8000:1500::d3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264401A0740; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:46:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 131A97FC3A8; Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:46:27 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20140312194627.131A97FC3A8@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ospf/KU6xZwlSnMg39VCj5IEfhiRI34Q Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, ospf@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [OSPF] RFC 7166 on Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3 X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:46:35 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7166 Title: Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3 Author: M. Bhatia, V. Manral, A. Lindem Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: March 2014 Mailbox: manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com, vishwas@ionosnetworks.com, acee.lindem@ericsson.com Pages: 23 Characters: 49533 Obsoletes: RFC 6506 I-D Tag: draft-ietf-ospf-rfc6506bis-05.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7166.txt Currently, OSPF for IPv6 (OSPFv3) uses IPsec as the only mechanism for authenticating protocol packets. This behavior is different from authentication mechanisms present in other routing protocols (OSPFv2, Intermediate System to Intermediate System (IS-IS), RIP, and Routing Information Protocol Next Generation (RIPng)). In some environments, it has been found that IPsec is difficult to configure and maintain and thus cannot be used. This document defines an alternative mechanism to authenticate OSPFv3 protocol packets so that OSPFv3 does not depend only upon IPsec for authentication. 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The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Tue Mar 25 10:56:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ospf@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2131A018D for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:56:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IMwO_lttg3zl for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg20.ericsson.net (usevmg20.ericsson.net [198.24.6.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0221A0157 for ; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:56:33 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c618062d-b7f858e0000031c7-08-5331c0fea961 Received: from EUSAAHC008.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.96]) by usevmg20.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 07.49.12743.EF0C1335; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:46:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from EUSAAMB101.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.118]) by EUSAAHC008.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.96]) with mapi id 14.02.0387.000; Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:56:32 -0400 From: Acee Lindem To: OSPF List Thread-Topic: [karp] Fwd: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing Area Health Check Thread-Index: Ac9FM7jUfY2bVLKWR8OERB4dO9zkEgAEhSsQACTXiwAACpRvAAAPt1AAABSOpYAAC/ajAABBER0AABnoggAAAK7KgAAQgMeA Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:56:32 +0000 Message-ID: <3E6B3C52-CCE2-4820-956E-3E542B799A16@ericsson.com> References: <5331548F.10409@pi.nu> In-Reply-To: <5331548F.10409@pi.nu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <394E18230E697F4589976D2A7C790A75@ericsson.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFjrHLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXRPgu6/A4bBBm9+S1m03LvH7sDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujDUHHrMXvGGqWL/5OEsD4yqmLkYODgkBE4mF9xW7GDmBTDGJ C/fWs3UxcnEICRxhlJj6fRYTSEJIYDmjxOVeBRCbTUBH4vmjf8wgtoiArMTSJftZQWxhARuJ NY1bWCDijhJLzh5nhLDzJDr6r4PZLAKqEje+fWADsXkF7CX6Vp5mhJivJPHyYDdYL6eAssT6 vb/BbEagg76fWgN2A7OAuMStJ/OZIA4VkFiy5zwzhC0q8fLxP1YIW0li0tJzrBD1OhILdn9i g7CtJX4cesUIYWtLLFv4mhniBkGJkzOfsExgFJuFZMUsJO2zkLTPQtI+C0n7AkbWVYwcpcWp ZbnpRgabGIFxckyCTXcH456XlocYpTlYlMR5v7x1DhISSE8sSc1OTS1ILYovKs1JLT7EyMTB KdXA2LdedIdt+VI7T8GDUlxF227/6bntsJXXui1UyEjn1EW54O8xwbyCFs8eLH2peZXr4fEN s9T/Z9d80V3yxOXTeksurYkWuQsyza6m6qYs8d07/ffmWrm6/NT6y32SWbkTwr/9zt0qd5/r 08FZzSqvO2LfrX+pr/Qr/lPHe0WGE9G84kctb9/iVGIpzkg01GIuKk4EAOIBLhZhAgAA Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ospf/7xNdCfD_6747Aqr4_gGTmRkiNCA Subject: [OSPF] [karp] Fwd: Re: [RTG-DIR] Routing Area Health Check X-BeenThere: ospf@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: The Official IETF OSPG WG Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:56:35 -0000 For your information, the link below is to a presentation Adrian gave to th= e MPLS working group on producing drafts that are going to RFC. Some of the thoughts are specific to MPLS. But most of them are widely app= licable. Acee (shamelessly plagiarized from another WG list ;^)=20 http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/slides/slides-89-mpls-15.pptx