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   RE: PHP route determination in
draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-03

Hi Peter

Please find my responses inline.

Regards

Santanu

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com <ppsenak@cisco.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 8:43 PM
To: Santanu Kar; ospf@ietf.org; sprevidi@cisco.com; cfilsfil@cisco.com;
hannes@juniper.net; rob.shakir@bt.com; wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com
Subject: Re: PHP route determination in
draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-03

Santanu,

On 3/31/15 15:20 , Santanu Kar wrote:

> Hi Authors

>

> I think last mail was a bit long to have probably missed the actual

> point which I was trying to make.Stating it concisely again.

>

> The PHP Prefix Segment can be advertised by the neighbor as well as by

> routers downstream of the neighbor which are connected to it.

correct, typical case is an area boundary, where ABR propagates the prefix
SID between areas.

SANTANU> I actually wanted to highlight the non-ABR cases here. Consider the
3 routers below, in same area.

 A -----10.1.1.0/24----- B ------20.1.1.0/24 -----C

In the context of A, the route of 20.1.1.0/24 is a PHP route. Now the
Prefix Segment for prefix 20.1.1.0/24 can be advertised by both B, as well
as by C towards A. The case I am considering here is, C has advertised the
prefix segment of 20.1.1.0/24 to A first. Still when A is calculating label
for 20.1.1.0/24, it should take it as PHP. However the text in draft states
" upstream neighbor of the Prefix-SID originator MUST pop the Prefix-SID".
Here A is not the upstream neighbor of C.

>

> So to determine a PHP Prefix Segment, should the recipient router

> only check for PHP when its advertised from its neighbor(with NP flag

> unset), or even when its from other routers downstream of the neighbor.

draft says two things:

1. If the NP-Flag is not set then any upstream neighbor of the Prefix-

    SID originator MUST pop the Prefix-SID.

2. When calculating the outgoing label for the prefix, the router MUST

    take into account E and P flags advertised by the next-hop router, if

    next-hop router advertised the SID for the prefix.  This MUST be done

    regardless of whether the next-hop router contributes to the best

    path to the prefix.

'E and P flags' should be 'E and NP flags' in the above paragraph, will

fix that in the next re-spin.

In summary, you should only follow what NP-bit is telling you, if the

neighbor advertised the SID.

regards,

Peter

>

> The reason for this doubt is this statement in the text

>

> "If the NP-Flag is not set then any*upstream neighbor*of the Prefix-SID

> originator MUST pop the Prefix-SID.  This is equivalent to

> the penultimate hop popping mechanism used in the MPLS dataplane."

>

> Regards

>

> Santanu

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Santanu Kar [mailto:santanu.kar@ipinfusion.com
<santanu.kar@ipinfusion.com>]

> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 7:47 PM

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<wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com>>'

> Subject: PHP route determination in

> draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-03

>

> Hi

>

> Seeking some more clarification in the draft regarding PHP route

> determination. Please consider the following scenario. SID refers to

> Prefix Segment Identifier.

>

>

>     Router-A: --------------------- :Router-B: ---------------------(

> SID-210) :Router-C

>

> 10.0.0.0/24 <http://10.0.0.0/24> 20.0.0.0/24 <http://20.0.0.0/24>

>

>     Lets consider the above topology of 3 routers. Router-C has

> configured Prefix SID 210 for prefix 20.0.0.0/24 <http://20.0.0.0/24>

> prefix. In the context of Router-A, the route 20.0.0.0/24

> <http://20.0.0.0/24> is a PHP route, as it belongs to its neighbor

> Router-B. Router-B is not configured.

>

> When Ext Prefix LSA with SID 210 originated by Router-C reaches Router-A

> , it finds that it's not from its neighbor Router-B and hence it will

> end up installing a non-PHP label say 210, instead of doing penultimate

> hop pop for the route 20.0.0.0/24 <http://20.0.0.0/24>. But this won't

> be correct.

>

> Am interpreting this because as per the following rules for PHP

> determination prescribed in the document, "If the NP-Flag is not set

> then any upstream neighbor of the Prefix-

>

>     SID originator MUST pop the Prefix-SID.  This is equivalent to the

>

>     penultimate hop popping mechanism used in the MPLS dataplane."

>

> Since this is an intra-area case, NP is not set. However since Router-A

> is not upstream neighbor of Router-C it will not apply PHP for this

> route, even though its actually a PHP route. Few questions in this

>

> 1) Should we just rely on checking that its upstream neighbor and NP

> flag and then apply PHP, or Router-A should do a special search its Link

> State database to find whether the route actually belongs to its

> neighbor, in this case Router-B.

>

> 2) Is the above a valid scenario or the administrator is mandated to

> configure SID values (which are all same) on all routers connected to

> subnet 20.0.0.0/24 <http://20.0.0.0/24>.

>

> 3) If we mandate (2) we will have the below scenario

>

>     Router-A --------------------- :Router-B :

> SID-210--------------------- SID-210:Router-C

>

> 10.0.0.0/24 <http://10.0.0.0/24> 20.0.0.0/24 <http://20.0.0.0/24>

>

> In this case, even if we configure SID in Router-C earlier, we will be

> needed to configure the same in Router-B also. So Router-A will select

> the Ext Prefix LSA coming from Router-B , as its the best path for route

> 20.0.0.0/24 <http://20.0.0.0/24> than Router-C. So even though we have

> non-PHP label installed first, it will be replaced with PHP label as

> soon ROuter-B is also configured for same prefix. So we may not choose

> to do special search in link state database to find PHP route as

> mentioned in (1)

>

> The selection of SID, when both Router-B and Router-C is configured is

> based on following the rules mentioned

> inhttps://
tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-prefix-link-attr-03#section-2.1

>

> "If this TLV is advertised multiple times for the same prefix in

>

>     different OSPFv2 Extended Prefix Opaque LSAs originated by the

>

>     different OSPF routers, the application using the information is

>

>     required to determine which OSPFv2 Extended Prefix Opaque LSA is

>

>     used.  For example, the application could prefer the LSA providing

>

>     the best path to the prefix."

>

> So should we follow (2) and (3) for considering PHP, or (1). If we don't

> follow any, we will end up having non-PHP label even for routes that are

> PHP.

>

> Please point me out if in case I am misinterpreting the intent of any

> texts mentioned from the drafts.

>

> Regards

>

> Santanu

>

>

> .

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<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">Hi Peter</font><=
/span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">Please find my</=
font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri"> responses inline</=
font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">.</font></span><spa=
n lang=3D"en-us"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">Regards</font></=
span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">Santanu</font></=
span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">-----Original Me=
ssage-----<br>
From: Peter Psenak [<a href=3D"mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com">mailto:ppsenak@cis=
co.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 8:43 PM<br>
To: Santanu Kar; <a href=3D"mailto:ospf@ietf.org">ospf@ietf.org</a>; <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:sprevidi@cisco.com">sprevidi@cisco.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:c=
filsfil@cisco.com">cfilsfil@cisco.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:hannes@juniper=
.net">hannes@juniper.net</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:rob.shakir@bt.com">rob.shak=
ir@bt.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com">wim.hen=
derickx@alcatel-lucent.com</a><br>
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ensions-03</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">Santanu,</font><=
/span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">On 3/31/15 15:20=
 , Santanu Kar wrote:</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Hi Authors<=
/font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; I think las=
t mail was a bit long to have probably missed the actual </font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; point which=
 I was trying to make.Stating it concisely again.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; The PHP Pre=
fix Segment can be advertised by the neighbor as well as by </font></span><=
/p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; routers dow=
nstream of the neighbor which are connected to it.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">correct, typical=
 case is an area boundary, where ABR propagates the prefix SID between area=
s.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri=
">SANTANU&gt; I</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#984806" f=
ace=3D"Calibri"> actually wanted to highlight the non-ABR cases here. Consi=
der the</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"> <font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"=
Calibri">3</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"> <font color=3D"#984806" face=
=3D"Calibri">routers below</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"><font color=3D=
"#984806" face=3D"Calibri">,</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"> <font color=
=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri">in same area.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-u=
s"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri=
">=C2=A0A -----10.1.1.</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#98=
4806" face=3D"Calibri">0</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#=
984806" face=3D"Calibri">/24----- B ------20.1.1.</font></span><span lang=
=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri">0</font></span><span la=
ng=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri">/24 -----C</font></sp=
an><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri=
">In the</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"> <font color=3D"#984806" face=3D=
"Calibri">context of A, the route of <a href=3D"http://20.1.1.0/24">20.1.1.=
0/24</a> is a PHP route. Now the Prefix Segment for prefix <a href=3D"http:=
//20.1.1.0/24">20.1.1.0/24</a> can be advertised by both</font></span><span=
 lang=3D"en-us"> <font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri">B, as well as by =
C towards A. The case I am considering here is, C has advertised the prefix=
 segment of <a href=3D"http://20.1.1.0/24">20.1.1.0/24</a> to A</font></spa=
n><span lang=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri"> first.</fo=
nt></span><span lang=3D"en-us"> <font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri">St=
ill</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calib=
ri"> when A is calculating label for</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"> <fo=
nt color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri"><a href=3D"http://20.1.1.0/24">20.1.1=
.0/24</a></font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#984806" face=3D=
"Calibri">,</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"> <font color=3D"#984806" face=
=3D"Calibri">it should take it as PHP. However</font></span><span lang=3D"e=
n-us"> <font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri">the text in draft states &q=
uot;</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"> <font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Cal=
ibri">upstream neighbor of the Prefix-SID originator MUST pop the Prefix-SI=
D</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"><font color=3D"#984806" face=3D"Calibri=
">&quot;. Here A is not the upstream neighbor of C.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; So to deter=
mine a PHP Prefix Segment, should the recipient router</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; only check =
for PHP when its advertised from its neighbor(with NP flag</font></span></p=
>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; unset), or =
even when its from other routers downstream of the neighbor.</font></span><=
/p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">draft says two t=
hings:</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">1. If the NP-Fla=
g is not set then any upstream neighbor of the Prefix-</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 SID originator MUST pop the Prefix-SID.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">2. When calculat=
ing the outgoing label for the prefix, the router MUST</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 take into account E and P flags advertised by the next-hop router, if</=
font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 next-hop router advertised the SID for the prefix.=C2=A0 This MUST be d=
one</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 regardless of whether the next-hop router contributes to the best</font=
></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 path to the prefix.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&#39;E and P fla=
gs&#39; should be &#39;E and NP flags&#39; in the above paragraph, will </f=
ont></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">fix that in the =
next re-spin.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">In summary, you =
should only follow what NP-bit is telling you, if the </font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">neighbor adverti=
sed the SID.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">regards,</font><=
/span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">Peter</font></sp=
an></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; The reason =
for this doubt is this statement in the text</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; &quot;If th=
e NP-Flag is not set then any*upstream neighbor*of the Prefix-SID</font></s=
pan></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; originator =
MUST pop the Prefix-SID.=C2=A0 This is equivalent to</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; the penulti=
mate hop popping mechanism used in the MPLS dataplane.&quot;</font></span><=
/p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Regards</fo=
nt></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Santanu</fo=
nt></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; -----Origin=
al Message-----</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; From: Santa=
nu Kar [</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"mailto:santanu=
.kar@ipinfusion.com"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">mailto:san=
tanu.kar@ipinfusion.com</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><span =
lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">]</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Sent: Frida=
y, March 27, 2015 7:47 PM</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; To: &#39;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:ospf@ietf.org">ospf@ietf.org</a> &lt;</font></span><span la=
ng=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"mailto:ospf@ietf.org"><span lang=3D"en-us"><=
font face=3D"Calibri">mailto:ospf@ietf.org</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us=
"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;&#39;; &#39;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com">ppsenak@cisco.com</a></font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; &lt;</font>=
</span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com"><sp=
an lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com</font></s=
pan><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Cali=
bri">&gt;&#39;; &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:sprevidi@cisco.com">sprevidi@cisco.c=
om</a></font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; &lt;</font>=
</span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"mailto:sprevidi@cisco.com"><s=
pan lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">mailto:sprevidi@cisco.com</font><=
/span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri">&gt;&#39;; &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:cfilsfil@cisco.com">cfilsfil@cisco=
.com</a></font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; &lt;</font>=
</span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"mailto:cfilsfil@cisco.com"><s=
pan lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">mailto:cfilsfil@cisco.com</font><=
/span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri">&gt;&#39;; &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:hannes@juniper.net">hannes@juniper=
.net</a></font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; &lt;</font>=
</span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"mailto:hannes@juniper.net"><s=
pan lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">mailto:hannes@juniper.net</font><=
/span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri">&gt;&#39;; &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:rob.shakir@bt.com">rob.shakir@bt.c=
om</a></font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; &lt;</font>=
</span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"mailto:rob.shakir@bt.com"><sp=
an lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">mailto:rob.shakir@bt.com</font></s=
pan><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Cali=
bri">&gt;&#39;; &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com">w=
im.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com</a></font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; &lt;</font>=
</span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"mailto:wim.henderickx@alcatel=
-lucent.com"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">mailto:wim.henderi=
ckx@alcatel-lucent.com</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><span l=
ang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;&#39;</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Subject: PH=
P route determination in</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; draft-ietf-=
ospf-segment-routing-extensions-03</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Hi</font></=
span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Seeking som=
e more clarification in the draft regarding PHP route</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; determinati=
on. Please consider the following scenario. SID refers to</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Prefix Segm=
ent Identifier.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Router-A: --------------------- :Router-B: -------------------=
--(</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; SID-210) :R=
outer-C</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; <a href=3D"=
http://10.0.0.0/24">10.0.0.0/24</a> &lt;</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us">=
</span><a href=3D"http://10.0.0.0/24"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri">http://10.0.0.0/24</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><spa=
n lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; <a href=3D"http://20.0.0.0/24"=
>20.0.0.0/24</a> &lt;</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"h=
ttp://20.0.0.0/24"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">http://20.0.=
0.0/24</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-us"><f=
ont face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Lets consider the above topology of 3 routers. Router-C has</f=
ont></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; configured =
Prefix SID 210 for prefix <a href=3D"http://20.0.0.0/24">20.0.0.0/24</a> &l=
t;</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"http://20.0.0.0/24">=
<span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">http://20.0.0.0/24</font></span=
><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri=
">&gt;</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; prefix. In =
the context of Router-A, the route <a href=3D"http://20.0.0.0/24">20.0.0.0/=
24</a></font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; &lt;</font>=
</span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"http://20.0.0.0/24"><span lan=
g=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">http://20.0.0.0/24</font></span><span la=
ng=3D"en-us"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; is=
 a PHP route, as it belongs to its neighbor</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Router-B. R=
outer-B is not configured.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; When Ext Pr=
efix LSA with SID 210 originated by Router-C reaches Router-A</font></span>=
</p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; , it finds =
that it&#39;s not from its neighbor Router-B and hence it will</font></span=
></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; end up inst=
alling a non-PHP label say 210, instead of doing penultimate</font></span><=
/p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; hop pop for=
 the route <a href=3D"http://20.0.0.0/24">20.0.0.0/24</a> &lt;</font></span=
><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"http://20.0.0.0/24"><span lang=3D"e=
n-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">http://20.0.0.0/24</font></span><span lang=3D"=
en-us"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;. But thi=
s won&#39;t</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; be correct.=
</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Am interpre=
ting this because as per the following rules for PHP</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; determinati=
on prescribed in the document, &quot;If the NP-Flag is not set</font></span=
></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; then any up=
stream neighbor of the Prefix-</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 SID originator MUST pop the Prefix-SID.=C2=A0 This is equivale=
nt to the</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 penultimate hop popping mechanism used in the MPLS dataplane.&=
quot;</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Since this =
is an intra-area case, NP is not set. However since Router-A</font></span><=
/p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; is not upst=
ream neighbor of Router-C it will not apply PHP for this</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; route, even=
 though its actually a PHP route. Few questions in this</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; 1) Should w=
e just rely on checking that its upstream neighbor and NP</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; flag and th=
en apply PHP, or Router-A should do a special search its Link</font></span>=
</p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; State datab=
ase to find whether the route actually belongs to its</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; neighbor, i=
n this case Router-B.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; 2) Is the a=
bove a valid scenario or the administrator is mandated to</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; configure S=
ID values (which are all same) on all routers connected to</font></span></p=
>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; subnet <a h=
ref=3D"http://20.0.0.0/24">20.0.0.0/24</a> &lt;</font></span><span lang=3D"=
en-us"></span><a href=3D"http://20.0.0.0/24"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font fac=
e=3D"Calibri">http://20.0.0.0/24</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><=
/a><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; 3) If we ma=
ndate (2) we will have the below scenario</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Router-A --------------------- :Router-B :</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; SID-210----=
----------------- SID-210:Router-C</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; <a href=3D"=
http://10.0.0.0/24">10.0.0.0/24</a> &lt;</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us">=
</span><a href=3D"http://10.0.0.0/24"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri">http://10.0.0.0/24</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><spa=
n lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; <a href=3D"http://20.0.0.0/24"=
>20.0.0.0/24</a> &lt;</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span><a href=3D"h=
ttp://20.0.0.0/24"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">http://20.0.=
0.0/24</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><span lang=3D"en-us"><f=
ont face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; In this cas=
e, even if we configure SID in Router-C earlier, we will be</font></span></=
p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; needed to c=
onfigure the same in Router-B also. So Router-A will select</font></span></=
p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; the Ext Pre=
fix LSA coming from Router-B , as its the best path for route</font></span>=
</p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; <a href=3D"=
http://20.0.0.0/24">20.0.0.0/24</a> &lt;</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us">=
</span><a href=3D"http://20.0.0.0/24"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Ca=
libri">http://20.0.0.0/24</font></span><span lang=3D"en-us"></span></a><spa=
n lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; than Router-C. So even though =
we have</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; non-PHP lab=
el installed first, it will be replaced with PHP label as</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; soon ROuter=
-B is also configured for same prefix. So we may not choose</font></span></=
p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; to do speci=
al search in link state database to find PHP route as</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; mentioned i=
n (1)</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; The selecti=
on of SID, when both Router-B and Router-C is configured is</font></span></=
p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; based on fo=
llowing the rules mentioned</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; inhttps://<=
a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-prefix-link-attr-03#se=
ction-2.1">tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-prefix-link-attr-03#section-=
2.1</a></font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; &quot;If th=
is TLV is advertised multiple times for the same prefix in</font></span></p=
>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 different OSPFv2 Extended Prefix Opaque LSAs originated by the=
</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 different OSPF routers, the application using the information =
is</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 required to determine which OSPFv2 Extended Prefix Opaque LSA =
is</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 used.=C2=A0 For example, the application could prefer the LSA =
providing</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 the best path to the prefix.&quot;</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; So should w=
e follow (2) and (3) for considering PHP, or (1). If we don&#39;t</font></s=
pan></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; follow any,=
 we will end up having non-PHP label even for routes that are</font></span>=
</p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; PHP.</font>=
</span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Please poin=
t me out if in case I am misinterpreting the intent of any</font></span></p=
>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; texts menti=
oned from the drafts.</font></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Regards</fo=
nt></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; Santanu</fo=
nt></span></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt;</font></spa=
n></p>

<p dir=3D"LTR"><span lang=3D"en-us"><font face=3D"Calibri">&gt; .</font></s=
pan></p>

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Santanu,

If B is not advertising a SID for 20.1.1.0/24, then A will not do PHP.

regards,
Peter


On 4/2/15 08:39 , Santanu Kar wrote:
> SANTANU> Iactually wanted to highlight the non-ABR cases here. Consider
> the3routers below,in same area.
>
>   A -----10.1.1.0/24----- B ------20.1.1.0/24 -----C
>
> In thecontext of A, the route of 20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24> is a
> PHP route. Now the Prefix Segment for prefix 20.1.1.0/24
> <http://20.1.1.0/24> can be advertised by bothB, as well as by C towards
> A. The case I am considering here is, C has advertised the prefix
> segment of 20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24> to Afirst.Stillwhen A is
> calculating label for20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24>,it should take it
> as PHP. Howeverthe text in draft states "upstream neighbor of the
> Prefix-SID originator MUST pop the Prefix-SID". Here A is not the
> upstream neighbor of C.
>


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Hi Peter

I think, considering we are using Ext Prefix LSA in 'Area-Flooding' scope, =
A
should do PHP for 20.1.1.0/24  if C has advertised it.
If  A doesn=E2=80=99t pop for 20.1.1.0/24, and give the packet to B, it wil=
l drop
it, since PHP is enabled by default for all nodes.

Regards
Santanu

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Subject: Re: PHP route determination in
draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-03

Santanu,

If B is not advertising a SID for 20.1.1.0/24, then A will not do PHP.

regards,
Peter


On 4/2/15 08:39 , Santanu Kar wrote:
> SANTANU> Iactually wanted to highlight the non-ABR cases here.
> SANTANU> Consider
> the3routers below,in same area.
>
>   A -----10.1.1.0/24----- B ------20.1.1.0/24 -----C
>
> In thecontext of A, the route of 20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24> is a
> PHP route. Now the Prefix Segment for prefix 20.1.1.0/24
> <http://20.1.1.0/24> can be advertised by bothB, as well as by C
> towards A. The case I am considering here is, C has advertised the
> prefix segment of 20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24> to Afirst.Stillwhen
> A is calculating label for20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24>,it should
> take it as PHP. Howeverthe text in draft states "upstream neighbor of
> the Prefix-SID originator MUST pop the Prefix-SID". Here A is not the
> upstream neighbor of C.
>

--=20
.


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Santanu,

On 4/2/15 11:34 , Santanu Kar wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> I think, considering we are using Ext Prefix LSA in 'Area-Flooding' scope, A
> should do PHP for 20.1.1.0/24  if C has advertised it.

I do not see why would you do PHP, if B is not advertising the SID.

> If  A doesn’t pop for 20.1.1.0/24, and give the packet to B, it will drop
> it, since PHP is enabled by default for all nodes.

why would it drop? B will get the packet with the label that corresponds 
to 20.1.1.0/24.

regards,
Peter

>
> Regards
> Santanu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 1:08 PM
> To: Santanu Kar; ospf@ietf.org; sprevidi@cisco.com; cfilsfil@cisco.com;
> hannes@juniper.net; rob.shakir@bt.com; wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com
> Subject: Re: PHP route determination in
> draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-03
>
> Santanu,
>
> If B is not advertising a SID for 20.1.1.0/24, then A will not do PHP.
>
> regards,
> Peter
>
>
> On 4/2/15 08:39 , Santanu Kar wrote:
>> SANTANU> Iactually wanted to highlight the non-ABR cases here.
>> SANTANU> Consider
>> the3routers below,in same area.
>>
>>    A -----10.1.1.0/24----- B ------20.1.1.0/24 -----C
>>
>> In thecontext of A, the route of 20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24> is a
>> PHP route. Now the Prefix Segment for prefix 20.1.1.0/24
>> <http://20.1.1.0/24> can be advertised by bothB, as well as by C
>> towards A. The case I am considering here is, C has advertised the
>> prefix segment of 20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24> to Afirst.Stillwhen
>> A is calculating label for20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24>,it should
>> take it as PHP. Howeverthe text in draft states "upstream neighbor of
>> the Prefix-SID originator MUST pop the Prefix-SID". Here A is not the
>> upstream neighbor of C.
>>
>


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Hi Peter

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From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com]
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To: Santanu Kar; ospf@ietf.org; sprevidi@cisco.com; cfilsfil@cisco.com;
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Subject: Re: PHP route determination in
draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-03

Santanu,

On 4/2/15 11:34 , Santanu Kar wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> I think, considering we are using Ext Prefix LSA in 'Area-Flooding'
> scope, A should do PHP for 20.1.1.0/24  if C has advertised it.

I do not see why would you do PHP, if B is not advertising the SID.

> If  A doesn=E2=80=99t pop for 20.1.1.0/24, and give the packet to B, it w=
ill
> drop it, since PHP is enabled by default for all nodes.

why would it drop? B will get the packet with the label that corresponds to
20.1.1.0/24.
[SANTANU] Since PHP is enabled globally, B may not expect a label packet fo=
r
20.1.1.0/24 as it expects it to be POPed in penultimate node. So B may
choose not to install any POP entry for 20.1.1.0/24. In that case packet
will be dropped.

regards,
Peter

>
> Regards
> Santanu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 1:08 PM
> To: Santanu Kar; ospf@ietf.org; sprevidi@cisco.com;
> cfilsfil@cisco.com; hannes@juniper.net; rob.shakir@bt.com;
> wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com
> Subject: Re: PHP route determination in
> draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-03
>
> Santanu,
>
> If B is not advertising a SID for 20.1.1.0/24, then A will not do PHP.
>
> regards,
> Peter
>
>
> On 4/2/15 08:39 , Santanu Kar wrote:
>> SANTANU> Iactually wanted to highlight the non-ABR cases here.
>> SANTANU> Consider
>> the3routers below,in same area.
>>
>>    A -----10.1.1.0/24----- B ------20.1.1.0/24 -----C
>>
>> In thecontext of A, the route of 20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24> is
>> a PHP route. Now the Prefix Segment for prefix 20.1.1.0/24
>> <http://20.1.1.0/24> can be advertised by bothB, as well as by C
>> towards A. The case I am considering here is, C has advertised the
>> prefix segment of 20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24> to
>> Afirst.Stillwhen A is calculating label for20.1.1.0/24
>> <http://20.1.1.0/24>,it should take it as PHP. Howeverthe text in
>> draft states "upstream neighbor of the Prefix-SID originator MUST pop
>> the Prefix-SID". Here A is not the upstream neighbor of C.
>>
>

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Santanu,

On 4/2/15 13:32 , Santanu Kar wrote:
> Hi Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 3:48 PM
> To: Santanu Kar; ospf@ietf.org; sprevidi@cisco.com; cfilsfil@cisco.com;
> hannes@juniper.net; rob.shakir@bt.com; wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com
> Cc: Penchala.Reddy@ipinfusion.com
> Subject: Re: PHP route determination in
> draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-03
>
> Santanu,
>
> On 4/2/15 11:34 , Santanu Kar wrote:
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> I think, considering we are using Ext Prefix LSA in 'Area-Flooding'
>> scope, A should do PHP for 20.1.1.0/24  if C has advertised it.
>
> I do not see why would you do PHP, if B is not advertising the SID.
>
>> If  A doesn’t pop for 20.1.1.0/24, and give the packet to B, it will
>> drop it, since PHP is enabled by default for all nodes.
>
> why would it drop? B will get the packet with the label that corresponds to
> 20.1.1.0/24.
> [SANTANU] Since PHP is enabled globally, B may not expect a label packet for
> 20.1.1.0/24 as it expects it to be POPed in penultimate node. So B may
> choose not to install any POP entry for 20.1.1.0/24. In that case packet
> will be dropped.

then it's a problem of B.

Peter

>
> regards,
> Peter
>
>>
>> Regards
>> Santanu
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppsenak@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 1:08 PM
>> To: Santanu Kar; ospf@ietf.org; sprevidi@cisco.com;
>> cfilsfil@cisco.com; hannes@juniper.net; rob.shakir@bt.com;
>> wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com
>> Subject: Re: PHP route determination in
>> draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-03
>>
>> Santanu,
>>
>> If B is not advertising a SID for 20.1.1.0/24, then A will not do PHP.
>>
>> regards,
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> On 4/2/15 08:39 , Santanu Kar wrote:
>>> SANTANU> Iactually wanted to highlight the non-ABR cases here.
>>> SANTANU> Consider
>>> the3routers below,in same area.
>>>
>>>     A -----10.1.1.0/24----- B ------20.1.1.0/24 -----C
>>>
>>> In thecontext of A, the route of 20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24> is
>>> a PHP route. Now the Prefix Segment for prefix 20.1.1.0/24
>>> <http://20.1.1.0/24> can be advertised by bothB, as well as by C
>>> towards A. The case I am considering here is, C has advertised the
>>> prefix segment of 20.1.1.0/24 <http://20.1.1.0/24> to
>>> Afirst.Stillwhen A is calculating label for20.1.1.0/24
>>> <http://20.1.1.0/24>,it should take it as PHP. Howeverthe text in
>>> draft states "upstream neighbor of the Prefix-SID originator MUST pop
>>> the Prefix-SID". Here A is not the upstream neighbor of C.
>>>
>>
>


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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7503

        Title:      OSPFv3 Autoconfiguration 
        Author:     A. Lindem, J. Arkko
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       April 2015
        Mailbox:    acee@cisco.com, 
                    jari.arkko@piuha.net
        Pages:      15
        Characters: 33521
        Updates:    RFC 5340

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-autoconfig-15.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7503

OSPFv3 is a candidate for deployments in environments where
autoconfiguration is a requirement.  One such environment is the IPv6
home network where users expect to simply plug in a router and have
it automatically use OSPFv3 for intra-domain routing.  This document
describes the necessary mechanisms for OSPFv3 to be self-configuring.
This document updates RFC 5340 by relaxing the HelloInterval/
RouterDeadInterval checking during OSPFv3 adjacency formation and
adding hysteresis to the update of self-originated Link State
Advertisements (LSAs).

This document is a product of the Open Shortest Path First IGP Working Group of the IETF.

This is now a Proposed Standard.

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Hi Acee,


On 31 March 2015 at 18:24:45, Acee Lindem (acee) (acee=40cisco.com) wrote=
:
> Now that the MPLS WG has accepted
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-spring-entropy-label/ =
as =20
> a WG document. We are polling for adoption of draft-xu-ospf-mpls-elc-01=
 as
> an OSP=46 WG. The poll will end on April 15th, 2015 at 12:00 AM EDT. Pl=
ease
> indicate your support or objection prior to that time.


I support the adoption of this draft =E2=80=94 it forms a useful part of =
the solution for the use of EL in a network running SR.

Thanks,
r.


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Dear Acee and All,

Useful feature for SR overall ..=20
Support.

--
Uma C.


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y Using OSPF" - draft-xu-ospf-mpls-elc-01

Now that the MPLS WG has accepted
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-spring-entropy-label/ as a=
 WG document. We are polling for adoption of draft-xu-ospf-mpls-elc-01 as a=
n OSPF WG.  The poll will end on April 15th, 2015 at 12:00 AM EDT. Please i=
ndicate your support or objection prior to that time.

Thanks,
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Support as a co-author.

Xiaohu

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>=20
> Now that the MPLS WG has accepted
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OSPF
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te
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Support as a co-author.

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>Now that the MPLS WG has accepted
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The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328,
"OSPF Version 2".

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Ramakrishna Rao DTV <ramakrishnadtv@infosys.com>

Section: 3.4

Original Text
-------------
        The link-state database for the backbone is shown in Figure 8.
        The set of routers pictured are the backbone routers.  Router
        RT11 is a backbone router because it belongs to two areas.  In
        order to make the backbone connected, a virtual link has been
        configured between Routers R10 and R11.

Corrected Text
--------------
        The link-state database for the backbone is shown in Figure 8.
        The set of routers pictured are the backbone routers.  Router
        RT11 is a backbone router because it belongs to two areas.  In
        order to make the backbone connected, a virtual link has been
        configured between Routers RT10 and RT11.

Notes
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s/R10/RT10
s/R11/RT11

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RFC2328 (no draft string recorded)
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Title               : OSPF Version 2
Publication Date    : April 1998
Author(s)           : J. Moy
Category            : INTERNET STANDARD
Source              : Open Shortest Path First IGP
Area                : Routing
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The following errata report has been verified for RFC2328,
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Status: Verified
Type: Editorial

Reported by: Ramakrishna Rao DTV <ramakrishnadtv@infosys.com>
Date Reported: 2015-04-08
Verified by: Alia Atlas (IESG)

Section: 3.4

Original Text
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        The link-state database for the backbone is shown in Figure 8.
        The set of routers pictured are the backbone routers.  Router
        RT11 is a backbone router because it belongs to two areas.  In
        order to make the backbone connected, a virtual link has been
        configured between Routers R10 and R11.

Corrected Text
--------------
        The link-state database for the backbone is shown in Figure 8.
        The set of routers pictured are the backbone routers.  Router
        RT11 is a backbone router because it belongs to two areas.  In
        order to make the backbone connected, a virtual link has been
        configured between Routers RT10 and RT11.

Notes
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s/R10/RT10
s/R11/RT11

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RFC2328 (no draft string recorded)
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Title               : OSPF Version 2
Publication Date    : April 1998
Author(s)           : J. Moy
Category            : INTERNET STANDARD
Source              : Open Shortest Path First IGP
Area                : Routing
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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Thanks for the prompt feedback.  It's been verified.

Alia

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Acee Lindem <acee.lindem@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alia, Alvaro,
>
> I agree this errata should be verified as an editorial errata. It=E2=80=
=99s an
> editorial errata since the intent of the text is clear as is.
>
> Thanks,
> Acee
>
> > On Apr 8, 2015, at 10:33 PM, RFC Errata System <
> rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> >
> > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328,
> > "OSPF Version 2".
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> > You may review the report below and at:
> > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D2328&eid=3D4330
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> > Type: Editorial
> > Reported by: Ramakrishna Rao DTV <ramakrishnadtv@infosys.com>
> >
> > Section: 3.4
> >
> > Original Text
> > -------------
> >        The link-state database for the backbone is shown in Figure 8.
> >        The set of routers pictured are the backbone routers.  Router
> >        RT11 is a backbone router because it belongs to two areas.  In
> >        order to make the backbone connected, a virtual link has been
> >        configured between Routers R10 and R11.
> >
> > Corrected Text
> > --------------
> >        The link-state database for the backbone is shown in Figure 8.
> >        The set of routers pictured are the backbone routers.  Router
> >        RT11 is a backbone router because it belongs to two areas.  In
> >        order to make the backbone connected, a virtual link has been
> >        configured between Routers RT10 and RT11.
> >
> > Notes
> > -----
> > s/R10/RT10
> > s/R11/RT11
> >
> > Instructions:
> > -------------
> > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
> > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
> > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG)
> > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> > RFC2328 (no draft string recorded)
> > --------------------------------------
> > Title               : OSPF Version 2
> > Publication Date    : April 1998
> > Author(s)           : J. Moy
> > Category            : INTERNET STANDARD
> > Source              : Open Shortest Path First IGP
> > Area                : Routing
> > Stream              : IETF
> > Verifying Party     : IESG
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSPF mailing list
> > OSPF@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for the prompt feedback.=C2=A0 It&#39;s been verifi=
ed.<div><br></div><div>Alia</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Acee Lindem <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:acee.lindem@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ace=
e.lindem@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
Alia, Alvaro,<br>
<br>
I agree this errata should be verified as an editorial errata. It=E2=80=99s=
 an editorial errata since the intent of the text is clear as is.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Acee<br>
<div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
&gt; On Apr 8, 2015, at 10:33 PM, RFC Errata System &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:r=
fc-editor@rfc-editor.org">rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The following errata report has been submitted for RFC2328,<br>
&gt; &quot;OSPF Version 2&quot;.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --------------------------------------<br>
&gt; You may review the report below and at:<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D2328&amp;=
eid=3D4330" target=3D"_blank">http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?r=
fc=3D2328&amp;eid=3D4330</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --------------------------------------<br>
&gt; Type: Editorial<br>
&gt; Reported by: Ramakrishna Rao DTV &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ramakrishnadtv@=
infosys.com">ramakrishnadtv@infosys.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Section: 3.4<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Original Text<br>
&gt; -------------<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The link-state database for the backbone is=
 shown in Figure 8.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The set of routers pictured are the backbon=
e routers.=C2=A0 Router<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 RT11 is a backbone router because it belong=
s to two areas.=C2=A0 In<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 order to make the backbone connected, a vir=
tual link has been<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 configured between Routers R10 and R11.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Corrected Text<br>
&gt; --------------<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The link-state database for the backbone is=
 shown in Figure 8.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The set of routers pictured are the backbon=
e routers.=C2=A0 Router<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 RT11 is a backbone router because it belong=
s to two areas.=C2=A0 In<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 order to make the backbone connected, a vir=
tual link has been<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 configured between Routers RT10 and RT11.<b=
r>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Notes<br>
&gt; -----<br>
&gt; s/R10/RT10<br>
&gt; s/R11/RT11<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Instructions:<br>
&gt; -------------<br>
&gt; This erratum is currently posted as &quot;Reported&quot;. If necessary=
, please<br>
&gt; use &quot;Reply All&quot; to discuss whether it should be verified or<=
br>
&gt; rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG)<br>
&gt; can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --------------------------------------<br>
&gt; RFC2328 (no draft string recorded)<br>
&gt; --------------------------------------<br>
&gt; Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: OSPF Ver=
sion 2<br>
&gt; Publication Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 : April 1998<br>
&gt; Author(s)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: J. Moy<br>
&gt; Category=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : INTERNET STANDARD<=
br>
&gt; Source=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Open Shortest=
 Path First IGP<br>
&gt; Area=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Routing<=
br>
&gt; Stream=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : IETF<br>
&gt; Verifying Party=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: IESG<br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; OSPF mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:OSPF@ietf.org">OSPF@ietf.org</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf" target=3D"_blan=
k">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf</a><br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7474

        Title:      Security Extension for OSPFv2 When 
                    Using Manual Key Management 
        Author:     M. Bhatia, S. Hartman,
                    D. Zhang, A. Lindem, Ed.
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       April 2015
        Mailbox:    manav@ionosnetworks.com, 
                    hartmans-ietf@mit.edu, 
                    dacheng.zhang@gmail.com,
                    acee@cisco.com
        Pages:      14
        Characters: 31832
        Updates:    RFC 2328, RFC 5709

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-ospf-security-extension-manual-keying-11.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7474

The current OSPFv2 cryptographic authentication mechanism as defined
in RFCs 2328 and 5709 is vulnerable to both inter-session and intra-
session replay attacks when using manual keying.  Additionally, the
existing cryptographic authentication mechanism does not cover the IP
header.  This omission can be exploited to carry out various types of
attacks.

This document defines changes to the authentication sequence number
mechanism that will protect OSPFv2 from both inter-session and intra-
session replay attacks when using manual keys for securing OSPFv2
protocol packets.  Additionally, we also describe some changes in the
cryptographic hash computation that will eliminate attacks resulting
from OSPFv2 not protecting the IP header.

This document is a product of the Open Shortest Path First IGP Working Group of the IETF.

This is now a Proposed Standard.

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Hi Acee and Abhay,

I have submitted it.

Best regards,
Xiaohu (Tiger)

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Hi!

I have a scenario where I run two OSPF instances (AS) on the same router, a=
nd intend to share some routing information between them. One instance atta=
ches locally connected networks, and one instance facing the external world=
.

The locally connected networks are included into OSPF as passive networks, =
and are supposed to be redistributed into the "external" OSPF instance with=
 redistribute OSPF. This does not work, and I can't find any documentation =
regarding this use case. Other OSPF networks are redistributed as expected,=
 but the passive networks seems to be considered as connected even though t=
hey are included into with the passive feature. Are passive networks to be =
considered as any other locally connected OSPF network when it comes to red=
istribute OSPF, or is there some difference in this regards? I thought they=
 would be treated the same, and am trying to convince some designers that i=
t is, but I better make sure first that it actually is the case or did I mi=
sunderstand the passive feature?

Thanks and regards
Fredrik

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The locally connected networks =
are included into OSPF as passive networks, and are supposed to be redistri=
buted into the &#8220;external&#8221; OSPF instance with redistribute OSPF.=
 This does not work, and I can&#8217;t find any documentation
 regarding this use case. Other OSPF networks are redistributed as expected=
, but the passive networks seems to be considered as connected even though =
they are included into with the passive feature. Are passive networks to be=
 considered as any other locally
 connected OSPF network when it comes to redistribute OSPF, or is there som=
e difference in this regards? I thought they would be treated the same, and=
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Fredrik,

Please work with me, OSPF WG is not necessarily the best place to discuss v=
endor specific configurations.
Thanks Acee :)

Cheers,
Jeff

From: Fredrik Liljegren <fredrik.liljegren@ericsson.com<mailto:fredrik.lilj=
egren@ericsson.com>>
Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 9:32 AM
To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com<mailto:acee@cisco.com>>, "ospf@iet=
f.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org>" <ospf@ietf.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [OSPF] ospf passive interface and redistribute ospf

Hi!

Thanks for your answer. We thought about redistribute connected as well, bu=
t since we currently don=92t have access to route maps to filter out the wa=
nted networks (and absolutely not want to expose all internal networks) we =
thought the way to go would be to include the wanted ones as passive and it=
 would work fine, but apparently not.

Then we will escalate the need for the filter mechanism and go for that sol=
ution instead.

Thanks again, much appreciated!

Regards
Fredrik

From: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:acee@cisco.com]
Sent: den 21 april 2015 18:23
To: Fredrik Liljegren; ospf@ietf.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OSPF] ospf passive interface and redistribute ospf

Hi Fredrik,
Note that passive interfaces are a non-standard protocol extension and are =
not subject to IETF specification. Having said that, you have misunderstood=
 how the passive feature has been implemented by many vendors. The passive =
interface subnet will be advertised as a local stub network in the Router-L=
SA corresponding to the area in which they are configured. If you want to a=
dvertise these subnets as external routes you should not configure them as =
passive and should simply redistribute your connected routes.
Hope this helps,
Acee

From: Fredrik Liljegren <fredrik.liljegren@ericsson.com<mailto:fredrik.lilj=
egren@ericsson.com>>
Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 9:03 AM
To: OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org>>
Subject: [OSPF] ospf passive interface and redistribute ospf


Hi!

I have a scenario where I run two OSPF instances (AS) on the same router, a=
nd intend to share some routing information between them. One instance atta=
ches locally connected networks, and one instance facing the external world=
.

The locally connected networks are included into OSPF as passive networks, =
and are supposed to be redistributed into the =93external=94 OSPF instance =
with redistribute OSPF. This does not work, and I can=92t find any document=
ation regarding this use case. Other OSPF networks are redistributed as exp=
ected, but the passive networks seems to be considered as connected even th=
ough they are included into with the passive feature. Are passive networks =
to be considered as any other locally connected OSPF network when it comes =
to redistribute OSPF, or is there some difference in this regards? I though=
t they would be treated the same, and am trying to convince some designers =
that it is, but I better make sure first that it actually is the case or di=
d I misunderstand the passive feature?

Thanks and regards
Fredrik

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f@ietf.org">ospf@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [OSPF] ospf passive in=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks =
for your answer. We thought about redistribute connected as well, but since=
 we currently don=92t have access to route maps to filter out the wanted ne=
tworks (and absolutely not want to expose
 all internal networks) we thought the way to go would be to include the wa=
nted ones as passive and it would work fine, but apparently not.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Then we=
 will escalate the need for the filter mechanism and go for that solution i=
nstead.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks =
again, much appreciated!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Regards=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Fredrik=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; fo=
nt-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=
=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> Acee Lindem (acee) =
[<a href=3D"mailto:acee@cisco.com">mailto:acee@cisco.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> den 21 april 2015 18:23<br>
<b>To:</b> Fredrik Liljegren; <a href=3D"mailto:ospf@ietf.org">ospf@ietf.or=
g</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSPF] ospf passive interface and redistribute ospf<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi Fred=
rik,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Note th=
at passive interfaces are a non-standard protocol extension and are not sub=
ject to IETF specification. Having said that, you have misunderstood how th=
e passive feature has been implemented
 by many vendors. The passive interface subnet will be advertised as a loca=
l stub network in the Router-LSA corresponding to the area in which they ar=
e configured. If you want to advertise these subnets as external routes you=
 should not configure them as passive
 and should simply redistribute your connected routes.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hope th=
is helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Acee&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:black">From: </span></b><spa=
n style=3D"color:black">Fredrik Liljegren &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fredrik.lil=
jegren@ericsson.com">fredrik.liljegren@ericsson.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 9:03 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>OSPF WG List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ospf@ietf.org">ospf@ietf.org<=
/a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[OSPF] ospf passive interface and redistribute ospf<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Hi!<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">I have a =
scenario where I run two OSPF instances (AS) on the same router, and intend=
 to share some routing information between them. One instance attaches loca=
lly connected networks, and one instance
 facing the external world.</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">The local=
ly connected networks are included into OSPF as passive networks, and are s=
upposed to be redistributed into the =93external=94 OSPF instance with redi=
stribute OSPF. This does not work, and I can=92t
 find any documentation regarding this use case. Other OSPF networks are re=
distributed as expected, but the passive networks seems to be considered as=
 connected even though they are included into with the passive feature. Are=
 passive networks to be considered
 as any other locally connected OSPF network when it comes to redistribute =
OSPF, or is there some difference in this regards? I thought they would be =
treated the same, and am trying to convince some designers that it is, but =
I better make sure first that it
 actually is the case or did I misunderstand the passive feature?</span><sp=
an style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Thanks an=
d regards</span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Fredrik</=
span><span style=3D"color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Hi Authors,

     I feel MRT-RED and MRT-BLUE MT-ID should be per MT.
When MRT protection is desired on the network with multiple MT, How do we h=
ave a unique MRT-BLUE and MRT-RED MT-ID since MT-ID is a global to system?
Finalizing on MT-ID values for Red and Blue per MT is a open question I fee=
l :)
Please let me know your opinion.

We need following changes in OSPF extension on MRT if we desired to support=
 MRT on multiple MT network.
5.3<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-mrt-00#section-5.3>.  MRT P=
rofile TLV in Router Information LSA
       0                   1                   2                   3
       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |              Type             |           Length              |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      | Profile ID(1) |GADAG Priority | Primary MT-ID |   Reserved    |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      |                         ..............                        |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      | Profile ID(n) |GADAG Priority | Primary MT-ID |   Reserved    |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

      TYPE:  TBA-MRT-OSPF-1 (To Be Allocated by IANA)
      LENGTH: 4 * (number of Profiles)
      Profile ID :  1 byte
             GADAG Priority: 1 byte
             Primary MT-ID : 1 byte


6.1<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-mrt-00#section-6.1>.  MRT-I=
neligible Link sub-TLV

       0                   1                   2                   3

       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1

      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

      |              Type             |          Length               |

      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
      | Primary MT-ID |                   Reserved                    |
      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+





      TYPE:  TBA-MRT-OSPF-2 in OSPFv2 Extended Link TLV

             TBA-MRT-OSPF-3 in OSPFv3 Router-Link TLV

             (To Be Allocated by IANA)

      LENGTH: 4 * (number of MT's on which this link is Ineligible)

      Primary MT-ID : 1 byte


                        MRT-Ineligible Link sub-TLV


Thanks & Regards
Anil S N

"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send" - Jon Po=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I feel MRT-RED and MRT-BLUE MT-ID should be per MT=
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;">When MRT protection is desired on the network =
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Please let me know your opini=
on.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-indent:36.0pt"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">We need following changes in =
OSPF extension on MRT if we desired to support MRT on multiple MT network.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<h3 style=3D"page-break-before:always"><a name=3D"section-5.3"></a><a href=
=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-mrt-00#section-5.3"><span l=
ang=3D"EN" style=3D"color:black;text-decoration:none">5.3</span></a><span l=
ang=3D"EN">.&nbsp; MRT Profile TLV in Router Information
 LSA<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4=
 5 6 7 8 9 0 1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&=
#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43=
;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&=
#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43=
;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; | Profile ID(1) |GADAG Priority
<span style=3D"color:#00B050">| Primary MT-ID | &nbsp;&nbsp;Reserved&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&=
#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43=
;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ..............&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&=
#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43=
;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; | Profile ID(n) |GADAG Priority
<span style=3D"color:#00B050">| Primary MT-ID | &nbsp;&nbsp;Reserved&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&=
#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43=
;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TYPE:&nbsp; TBA-MRT-OSPF-1 (To Be Allocated by IANA)<o:=
p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; LENGTH: 4 * (number of Profiles)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Profile ID :&nbsp; 1 byte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;GADAG Priority: 1 byte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Primary MT-ID : 1 byte<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;
</span><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<h3 style=3D"page-break-before:always"><a name=3D"section-6.1"></a><a href=
=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ospf-mrt-00#section-6.1"><span l=
ang=3D"EN" style=3D"color:black;text-decoration:none">6.1</span></a><span l=
ang=3D"EN">.&nbsp; MRT-Ineligible Link sub-TLV<o:p></o:p></span></h3>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7=
 8 9 0 1<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&=
#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43=
;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Type&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
; Length&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; |<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&=
#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43=
;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<span style=3D"color:#00B050">|</span> <span style=3D"color:#00B050">Primar=
y MT-ID | &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;|<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"=
 style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&=
#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43=
;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;-&#43;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; TYPE:&nbsp; TBA-MRT-OSPF-2 in OSPFv2 Extended Link TLV<o:p></=
o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TBA-MRT-OSPF-3 in O=
SPFv3 Router-Link TLV<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (To Be Allocated by=
 IANA)<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; LENGTH: 4 * (number of MT&#8217;s on which this link is Ineli=
gible)<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp; Primary MT-ID : 1 byte<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"page-break-before:always"><span lang=3D"EN"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</span></pre>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier=
 New&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
 MRT-Ineligible Link sub-TLV</span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier=
 New&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=
Thanks &amp; Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=
Anil S N<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=
&#8220;Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send&#82=
21; - Jon Postel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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