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Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">Hi, all<o:p></o:p></sp=
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l-align:baseline"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">To m=
ake the node that is not TE enabled advertises link attributes for other ap=
plications, it is worth considering another choice which has least change t=
o the protocol and implementation. The method is: advertising RI capability=
 TLV in RI LSA when advertising TE LSA. TE capability bit in RI capability =
TLV can indicate whether link attributes should become part of TE topology.=
 <o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"margin-top:15.6pt;line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertica=
l-align:baseline"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">In d=
raft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
<pre style=3D"line-height:13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">=
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line"> =A1=B1an OSPF router =
advertising an OSPF RI LSA MAY include the Router Informational Capability =
TLV=A1=AF=A1=AF can be enhanced with: an OSPF router advertising an OSPF RI=
 LSA should include Router Informational Capability TLV which can inform TE=
 capability bit.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line"> In this case, some im=
provement needs to be done in draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis. These are my pers=
onal view.<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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l-align:baseline"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">Best=
 regards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">Ling XU<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></pre>
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ck"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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ck"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse-0=
0 proposes moving and/or copying TLVs from the TE Opaque LSA to the Extende=
d Link Opaque LSA. The draft lists the problems that the
 draft is trying to solve.&nbsp; I have reproduced that list of problems be=
low, with each problem followed by what I believe to be a better and simple=
r solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp; 1.&nbsp; Whenever the link=
 is advertised in a TE Opaque LSA, the link<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; be=
comes a part of the TE topology, which may not match IP routed<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; to=
pology.&nbsp; By making the link part of the TE topology, remote<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; no=
des may mistakenly believe that the link is available for MPLS<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TE=
 or GMPLS, when, in fact, MPLS is not enabled on the link.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">To address this issue, we simply need t=
o define a new sub-TLV in the TE Link LSA&nbsp; to say whether MPLS/GMPLS/R=
SVP is enabled on the link instead of moving the TLVs around
 into different LSAs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp; 2.&nbsp; The TE Opaque LSA=
 carries link attributes that are not used or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; re=
quired by MPLS TE or GMPLS.&nbsp; There is no mechanism in TE Opaque<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
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13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; LS=
A to indicate which of the link attributes should be passed to<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
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13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MP=
LS TE application and which should be used by OSPFv2 and other<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
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13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ap=
plications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">OSPF database is a container and OSPF c=
an use any of the LSAS for its own use including the TE LSAs.&nbsp; As far =
as the TE database goes, it contains data from TE LSAs as well
 as non-TE LSAs (Network LSA) today so the reasoning described here doesn't=
 make sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp; 3.&nbsp; Link attributes u=
sed for non-TE purposes is partitioned across<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mu=
ltiple LSAs - the TE Opaque LSA and the Extended Link Opaque<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
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13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; LS=
A.&nbsp; This partitioning will require implementations to lookup<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mu=
ltiple LSAs to extract link attributes for a single link,<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
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13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; br=
inging needless complexity to the OSPFv2 implementations.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">There will be nodes in the network whic=
h will run older software which send these attributes via TE LSAs so the pr=
oblem of looking into the TE LSAs for TE related information
 doesn't get solved with this draft.&nbsp; Rather it makes it more complica=
ted. With this draft, the multiple LSA lookup will only increase.&nbsp; An =
implementation will first have to find if Extended link LSA contains the re=
quired info,&nbsp; if not it will need to look
 up the info in TE.LSA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left;line-height:=
13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">Looking up multiple LSAs for informatio=
n is an implementation issue and I am sure there will be implementations th=
at will handle this&nbsp; gracefully so that it doesn't cause<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
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13.5pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot=
;serif&quot;;layout-grid-mode:line">delays in critical paths. It doesn't se=
em reasonable to come up with protocol extensions to solve implementation i=
ssues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi Acee,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I suggest to advertise SRLG onl=
y in the TE opaque LSA, and advertise TE capability to help understand whet=
her node is TE enabled. If node isn=A1=AFt TE enabled , SRLG shouldn=A1=AFt=
 be used for TE application; otherwise, SRLG can
 be used for TE application or for other application purposes.<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">the mechanism to advertise TE c=
apability has been well defined in draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis.<o:p></o:p></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Ling<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi Ling,<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">From: OSPF &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org%3cmailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org">ospf-bounces@iet=
f.org&lt;mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt;&gt; on behalf of &quot;xuling=
 (F)&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:xuling3@huawei.com%3cmailto:xuling3@huawei=
.com">xuling3@huawei.com&lt;mailto:xuling3@huawei.com</a>&gt;&gt;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Date: Wednesday, January 6, =
2016 at 2:28 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To: OSPF WG List &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:ospf@ietf.org%3cmailto:ospf@ietf.org">ospf@ietf.org&lt;mailto:os=
pf@ietf.org</a>&gt;&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Subject: [OSPF] regarding dr=
aft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse-00<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi, all<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">To make the node that is not=
 TE enabled advertises link attributes for other applications, it is worth =
considering another choice which has least change to the protocol and imple=
mentation. The method is: advertising
 RI capability TLV in RI LSA when advertising TE LSA. TE capability bit in =
RI capability TLV can indicate whether link attributes should become part o=
f TE topology.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bi=
s,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">?an OSPF router advertising =
an OSPF RI LSA MAY include the Router Informational Capability TLV?? can be=
 enhanced with: an OSPF router advertising an OSPF RI LSA should include Ro=
uter Informational Capability TLV which
 can inform TE capability bit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In this case, some improveme=
nt needs to be done in draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis. These are my personal vi=
ew.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The intent of RFC 4970 and t=
he BIS version is that the drafts requiring new capabilities will define th=
em and request IANA allocation as opposed to updating RFC 4970BIS for every=
 new capability.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As for the mechanism, I thin=
k this would be rather unwieldy to attempt to get SRLG information from dif=
ferent LSAs. Rather, within the OSPF Routing Domain, I?d choose to advertis=
e SRLGs either in the TE LSAs or the
 Prefix/Link Attribute LSAs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Acee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Ling XU<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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Hi Ling,

On 1/7/16 03:52 , xuling (F) wrote:
> Hi Acee,
>
> I suggest to advertise SRLG only in the TE opaque LSA, and advertise TE
> capability to help understand whether node is TE enabled. If node isn’t
> TE enabled , SRLG shouldn’t be used for TE application; otherwise, SRLG
> can be used for TE application or for other application purposes.

above would be incompatible with the existing implementations, as there 
is no "TE capability" being used today.

regards,
Peter

>
> the mechanism to advertise TE capability has been well defined in
> draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ling
>
> Hi Ling,
>
> From: OSPF <ospf-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org
> <mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org%3cmailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org>>> on
> behalf of "xuling (F)" <xuling3@huawei.com<mailto:xuling3@huawei.com
> <mailto:xuling3@huawei.com%3cmailto:xuling3@huawei.com>>>
>
> Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 2:28 AM
>
> To: OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org
> <mailto:ospf@ietf.org%3cmailto:ospf@ietf.org>>>
>
> Subject: [OSPF] regarding draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse-00
>
> Hi, all
>
> To make the node that is not TE enabled advertises link attributes for
> other applications, it is worth considering another choice which has
> least change to the protocol and implementation. The method is:
> advertising RI capability TLV in RI LSA when advertising TE LSA. TE
> capability bit in RI capability TLV can indicate whether link attributes
> should become part of TE topology.
>
> In draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis,
>
> ?an OSPF router advertising an OSPF RI LSA MAY include the Router
> Informational Capability TLV?? can be enhanced with: an OSPF router
> advertising an OSPF RI LSA should include Router Informational
> Capability TLV which can inform TE capability bit.
>
> In this case, some improvement needs to be done in
> draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis. These are my personal view.
>
> The intent of RFC 4970 and the BIS version is that the drafts requiring
> new capabilities will define them and request IANA allocation as opposed
> to updating RFC 4970BIS for every new capability.
>
> As for the mechanism, I think this would be rather unwieldy to attempt
> to get SRLG information from different LSAs. Rather, within the OSPF
> Routing Domain, I?d choose to advertise SRLGs either in the TE LSAs or
> the Prefix/Link Attribute LSAs.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Acee
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ling XU
>
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All,

We are starting a working group last call on the subject document. This 
draft introduces a concept of Network-to-Router metric in addition to 
regular (router-to-network) metric. This allows for more optimal routing 
in radio networks modeled as broadcast segments.

WGLC will end at 8am PST on 26th Jan 2016.

Please review the document and send any final comments prior to the WGLC 
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Hi Peter,

the mechanism in draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis maybe highly expect to be used =
once well defined. If it works, we don't need to define a new mechanism to =
solve the first issue, maybe for new mechanism incompatible problem would a=
lso occur.=20


Best regards,
Ling
  =20

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Hi Ling,

On 1/7/16 03:52 , xuling (F) wrote:
> Hi Acee,
>
> I suggest to advertise SRLG only in the TE opaque LSA, and advertise=20
> TE capability to help understand whether node is TE enabled. If node=20
> isn?t TE enabled , SRLG shouldn?t be used for TE application;=20
> otherwise, SRLG can be used for TE application or for other application p=
urposes.

above would be incompatible with the existing implementations, as there is =
no "TE capability" being used today.

regards,
Peter

>
> the mechanism to advertise TE capability has been well defined in=20
> draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ling
>
> Hi Ling,
>
> From: OSPF <ospf-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org
> <mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org%3cmailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org>>> on=20
> behalf of "xuling (F)" <xuling3@huawei.com<mailto:xuling3@huawei.com
> <mailto:xuling3@huawei.com%3cmailto:xuling3@huawei.com>>>
>
> Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 2:28 AM
>
> To: OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org
> <mailto:ospf@ietf.org%3cmailto:ospf@ietf.org>>>
>
> Subject: [OSPF] regarding draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse-00
>
> Hi, all
>
> To make the node that is not TE enabled advertises link attributes for=20
> other applications, it is worth considering another choice which has=20
> least change to the protocol and implementation. The method is:
> advertising RI capability TLV in RI LSA when advertising TE LSA. TE=20
> capability bit in RI capability TLV can indicate whether link=20
> attributes should become part of TE topology.
>
> In draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis,
>
> ?an OSPF router advertising an OSPF RI LSA MAY include the Router=20
> Informational Capability TLV?? can be enhanced with: an OSPF router=20
> advertising an OSPF RI LSA should include Router Informational=20
> Capability TLV which can inform TE capability bit.
>
> In this case, some improvement needs to be done in=20
> draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis. These are my personal view.
>
> The intent of RFC 4970 and the BIS version is that the drafts=20
> requiring new capabilities will define them and request IANA=20
> allocation as opposed to updating RFC 4970BIS for every new capability.
>
> As for the mechanism, I think this would be rather unwieldy to attempt=20
> to get SRLG information from different LSAs. Rather, within the OSPF=20
> Routing Domain, I?d choose to advertise SRLGs either in the TE LSAs or=20
> the Prefix/Link Attribute LSAs.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Acee
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ling XU
>
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Ling,

the fundamental flaw in your idea is that you are making the TE 
capability a node property, which is incorrect. TE topology is 
represented by links and as such needs to have per link granularity.


regards,
Peter

On 1/13/16 08:58 , xuling (F) wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> the mechanism in draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis maybe highly expect to be used once well defined. If it works, we don't need to define a new mechanism to solve the first issue, maybe for new mechanism incompatible problem would also occur.
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> To: "xuling (F)" <xuling3@huawei.com>, "ospf@ietf.org" <ospf@ietf.org>
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> Hi Ling,
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> On 1/7/16 03:52 , xuling (F) wrote:
>> Hi Acee,
>>
>> I suggest to advertise SRLG only in the TE opaque LSA, and advertise
>> TE capability to help understand whether node is TE enabled. If node
>> isn?t TE enabled , SRLG shouldn?t be used for TE application;
>> otherwise, SRLG can be used for TE application or for other application purposes.
>
> above would be incompatible with the existing implementations, as there is no "TE capability" being used today.
>
> regards,
> Peter
>
>>
>> the mechanism to advertise TE capability has been well defined in
>> draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ling
>>
>> Hi Ling,
>>
>> From: OSPF <ospf-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org
>> <mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org%3cmailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org>>> on
>> behalf of "xuling (F)" <xuling3@huawei.com<mailto:xuling3@huawei.com
>> <mailto:xuling3@huawei.com%3cmailto:xuling3@huawei.com>>>
>>
>> Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 2:28 AM
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>> To: OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org
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>> Subject: [OSPF] regarding draft-ppsenak-ospf-te-link-attr-reuse-00
>>
>> Hi, all
>>
>> To make the node that is not TE enabled advertises link attributes for
>> other applications, it is worth considering another choice which has
>> least change to the protocol and implementation. The method is:
>> advertising RI capability TLV in RI LSA when advertising TE LSA. TE
>> capability bit in RI capability TLV can indicate whether link
>> attributes should become part of TE topology.
>>
>> In draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis,
>>
>> ?an OSPF router advertising an OSPF RI LSA MAY include the Router
>> Informational Capability TLV?? can be enhanced with: an OSPF router
>> advertising an OSPF RI LSA should include Router Informational
>> Capability TLV which can inform TE capability bit.
>>
>> In this case, some improvement needs to be done in
>> draft-ietf-ospf-rfc4970bis. These are my personal view.
>>
>> The intent of RFC 4970 and the BIS version is that the drafts
>> requiring new capabilities will define them and request IANA
>> allocation as opposed to updating RFC 4970BIS for every new capability.
>>
>> As for the mechanism, I think this would be rather unwieldy to attempt
>> to get SRLG information from different LSAs. Rather, within the OSPF
>> Routing Domain, I?d choose to advertise SRLGs either in the TE LSAs or
>> the Prefix/Link Attribute LSAs.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Acee
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Ling XU
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Contributor supporting this experimental draft.

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

> This is the start of the WG last call for the =E2=80=9COSPF Topology Tran=
sparent
> Zone=E2=80=9D protocol extensions draft. We=E2=80=99ve had a number of di=
scussions on this
> and Huawei has a prototype implementation. The WG last call will end at
> 12:00 AM PDT on February 1st, 2016. For your convenience, here is a URL:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-ttz/
>
> Thanks,
> Acee and Abhay
>
> _______________________________________________
> OSPF mailing list
> OSPF@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Contributor supporting this experimental draft.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 a=
t 8:30 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:acee@=
cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">acee@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex">This is the start of the WG last call for the =E2=
=80=9COSPF Topology Transparent<br>
Zone=E2=80=9D protocol extensions draft. We=E2=80=99ve had a number of disc=
ussions on this<br>
and Huawei has a prototype implementation. The WG last call will end at<br>
12:00 AM PDT on February 1st, 2016. For your convenience, here is a URL:<br=
>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-ttz/" rel=3D"no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-osp=
f-ttz/</a><br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Acee and Abhay<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
OSPF mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:OSPF@ietf.org">OSPF@ietf.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf" rel=3D"noreferrer" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
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Support as co-author.

Yi

On 1/17/16, 3:30 PM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

>This is the start of the WG last call for the =B3OSPF Topology Transparent
>Zone=B2 protocol extensions draft. We=B9ve had a number of discussions on =
this
>and Huawei has a prototype implementation. The WG last call will end at
>12:00 AM PDT on February 1st, 2016. For your convenience, here is a URL:
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-ttz/
>
>Thanks,
>Acee and Abhay=20
>


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Support as co-author.

Yi

On 1/17/16, 3:30 PM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

>This is the start of the WG last call for the =B3OSPF Topology=20
>Transparent Zone=B2 protocol extensions draft. We=B9ve had a number of=20
>discussions on this and Huawei has a prototype implementation. The WG=20
>last call will end at
>12:00 AM PDT on February 1st, 2016. For your convenience, here is a URL:
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-ttz/
>
>Thanks,
>Acee and Abhay
>

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On 1/17/16, 3:35 PM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi!

>Please indicate whether you are aware of any relevant IPR and if so,
>whether it has been disclosed.
>
>This IPR has been disclosed: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2701/

I am not aware of any additional IPR.

Alvaro.


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I am not aware of any additional IPR.


Yi

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>Authors,
>
>Please indicate whether you are aware of any relevant IPR and if so,
>whether it has been disclosed.
>
>This IPR has been disclosed: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2701/
>
>Thanks,
>Acee
>


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On 1/17/16, 3:35 PM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

>Authors,
>
>Please indicate whether you are aware of any relevant IPR and if so,
>whether it has been disclosed.
>
>This IPR has been disclosed: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2701/
>
>Thanks,
>Acee
>

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Support as co-author.=C2=A0Ning So972-955-0914
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      From: Wunan (Eric) <eric.wu@huawei.com>
 To: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>; OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org>; "dr=
aft-ietf-ospf-ttz@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-ospf-ttz@ietf.org>=20
 Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:21 AM
 Subject: Re: [OSPF] Working Group Last Call for "OSPF Topology Transparent=
 Zone"
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Through the prototype, some interesting things can be observed and the exte=
nsion itself is not that complex. Willingly to support this last call.

Regards
Eric

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=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [OSPF] Working Group Last Call for "OSPF Topology Trans=
parent Zone"

This is the start of the WG last call for the =E2=80=9COSPF Topology Transp=
arent Zone=E2=80=9D protocol extensions draft. We=E2=80=99ve had a number o=
f discussions on this and Huawei has a prototype implementation. The WG las=
t call will end at
12:00 AM PDT on February 1st, 2016. For your convenience, here is a URL:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-ttz/

Thanks,
Acee and Abhay=20

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div><div></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453130043162_11655">Support as co-a=
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6px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453130043162_11663"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3=
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6_0_1_1453130043162_11666"> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:b=
old;">From:</span></b> Wunan (Eric) &lt;eric.wu@huawei.com&gt;<br> <b><span=
 style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Acee Lindem (acee) &lt;acee@ci=
sco.com&gt;; OSPF WG List &lt;ospf@ietf.org&gt;; "draft-ietf-ospf-ttz@ietf.=
org" &lt;draft-ietf-ospf-ttz@ietf.org&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weigh=
t: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 18, 2016 6:21 AM<br> <b><span st=
yle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSPF] Working Group Las=
t Call for "OSPF Topology Transparent Zone"<br> </font> </div> <div class=
=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1453130043162_11667"><br>Through th=
e prototype, some interesting things can be observed and the extension itse=
lf is not that complex. Willingly to support this last call.<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><br clear=3D"none">Regards<br clear=3D"none">Eric<br clear=3D"none"><di=
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=3D"none">=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: [OSPF] Working Group Last Call for "OSPF Topo=
logy Transparent Zone"<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">This is the sta=
rt of the WG last call for the =E2=80=9COSPF Topology Transparent Zone=E2=
=80=9D protocol extensions draft. We=E2=80=99ve had a number of discussions=
 on this and Huawei has a prototype implementation. The WG last call will e=
nd at<br clear=3D"none">12:00 AM PDT on February 1st, 2016. For your conven=
ience, here is a URL:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect=
" href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-ttz/" target=3D"=
_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-ttz/</a><br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Thanks,<br clear=3D"none">Acee and Abhay <br c=
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Support, I think it is a very useful extension for ospf.

Am Dienstag, 12. Januar 2016, 00:05:37 schrieb Abhay Roy:
> All,
> 
> We are starting a working group last call on the subject document. This
> draft introduces a concept of Network-to-Router metric in addition to
> regular (router-to-network) metric. This allows for more optimal routing
> in radio networks modeled as broadcast segments.
> 
> WGLC will end at 8am PST on 26th Jan 2016.
> 
> Please review the document and send any final comments prior to the WGLC
> deadline.
> 
> Regards,
> -Abhay
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No known IPRs from my side.

On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

> Authors,
>
> Please indicate whether you are aware of any relevant IPR and if so,
> whether it has been disclosed.
>
> This IPR has been disclosed: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2701/
>
> Thanks,
> Acee
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<div dir=3D"ltr">No known IPRs from my side.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Acee Lin=
dem (acee) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:acee@cisco.com" target=
=3D"_blank">acee@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">Authors,<br>
<br>
Please indicate whether you are aware of any relevant IPR and if so,<br>
whether it has been disclosed.<br>
<br>
This IPR has been disclosed: <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/27=
01/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/=
2701/</a><br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Acee<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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arget=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class=
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On 1/12/16 09:05 , Abhay Roy wrote:
> All,
>
> We are starting a working group last call on the subject document. This
> draft introduces a concept of Network-to-Router metric in addition to
> regular (router-to-network) metric. This allows for more optimal routing
> in radio networks modeled as broadcast segments.
>
> WGLC will end at 8am PST on 26th Jan 2016.
>
> Please review the document and send any final comments prior to the WGLC
> deadline.
>
> Regards,
> -Abhay
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On 1/17/16, 3:30 PM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

>This is the start of the WG last call for the =B3OSPF Topology=20
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Support as co-author.

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On 1/17/16, 3:30 PM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

>This is the start of the WG last call for the =B3OSPF Topology=20
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>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-ttz/
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>Thanks,
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I am not aware of any related IPRs that have not been disclosed.

Best regards,
Lei

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:19 AM, William McCall <william.mccall@gmail.com>
wrote:

> No known IPRs from my side.
>
> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Authors,
>>
>> Please indicate whether you are aware of any relevant IPR and if so,
>> whether it has been disclosed.
>>
>> This IPR has been disclosed: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2701/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Acee
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> --
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">I am not aware of any rel=
ated IPRs that have not been disclosed.</span><div><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">Best regard=
s,=C2=A0</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">Lei<br></span><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 18, 201=
6 at 9:19 AM, William McCall <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:willia=
m.mccall@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">william.mccall@gmail.com</a>&gt;</spa=
n> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-=
style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">No known IPRs from my side.<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote">On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:acee@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">acee@cisco=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,=
204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Authors,<br>
<br>
Please indicate whether you are aware of any relevant IPR and if so,<br>
whether it has been disclosed.<br>
<br>
This IPR has been disclosed: <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/27=
01/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/=
2701/</a><br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Acee<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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lass=3D""><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br><div>William McCall</div>
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Support as contributor.

Best regards,
Lei

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Yanhe Fan <yfan@casa-systems.com> wrote:

> Support.
>
> Yanhe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kiran.Makhijani
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 1:29 PM
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> Zone"
>
> Support.
> Kiran
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Yi Yang (yiya)
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:20 PM
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> Subject: Re: [OSPF] Working Group Last Call for "OSPF Topology Transparen=
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> Zone"
>
> Support as co-author.
>
> Yi
>
> On 1/17/16, 3:30 PM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
>
> >This is the start of the WG last call for the =C2=B3OSPF Topology
> >Transparent Zone=C2=B2 protocol extensions draft. We=C2=B9ve had a numbe=
r of
> >discussions on this and Huawei has a prototype implementation. The WG
> >last call will end at
> >12:00 AM PDT on February 1st, 2016. For your convenience, here is a URL:
> >
> >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-ttz/
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Acee and Abhay
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">Support as contributor.=
=C2=A0</span><div><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12.8px">Best regards,=C2=A0</span></div><div><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.8px">Lei<br></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Yanhe Fan <span di=
r=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:yfan@casa-systems.com" target=3D"_blank">yf=
an@casa-systems.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>Support.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Yanhe<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
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tf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Kiran.Makhijani<br>
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 1:29 PM<br>
To: Acee Lindem (acee); OSPF WG List; <a href=3D"mailto:draft-ietf-ospf-ttz=
@ietf.org">draft-ietf-ospf-ttz@ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [OSPF] Working Group Last Call for &quot;OSPF Topology Transpa=
rent Zone&quot;<br>
<br>
Support.<br>
Kiran<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: OSPF [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org">ospf-bounces@ie=
tf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Yi Yang (yiya)<br>
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:20 PM<br>
To: Acee Lindem (acee) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:acee@cisco.com">acee@cisco.com=
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@ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [OSPF] Working Group Last Call for &quot;OSPF Topology Transpa=
rent Zone&quot;<br>
<br>
Support as co-author.<br>
<br>
Yi<br>
<br>
On 1/17/16, 3:30 PM, &quot;Acee Lindem (acee)&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:a=
cee@cisco.com">acee@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;This is the start of the WG last call for the =C2=B3OSPF Topology<br>
&gt;Transparent Zone=C2=B2 protocol extensions draft. We=C2=B9ve had a numb=
er of<br>
&gt;discussions on this and Huawei has a prototype implementation. The WG<b=
r>
&gt;last call will end at<br>
&gt;12:00 AM PDT on February 1st, 2016. For your convenience, here is a URL=
:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-ttz/" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ie=
tf-ospf-ttz/</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thanks,<br>
&gt;Acee and Abhay<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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Support.=20

B ZHAO=20

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From: "Yanhe Fan" <yfan@casa-systems.com>=20
To: "Kiran.Makhijani" <Kiran.Makhijani@huawei.com>, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <a=
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Support.=20
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-----Original Message-----=20
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Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:20 PM=20
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Subject: Re: [OSPF] Working Group Last Call for "OSPF Topology Transparent =
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Support as co-author.=20

Yi=20

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>This is the start of the WG last call for the =C2=B3OSPF Topology=20
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/b>"Kiran.Makhijani" &lt;Kiran.Makhijani@huawei.com&gt;, "Acee Lindem (acee=
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ne"<br><div><br></div>Support.<br>Kiran<br><div><br></div>-----Original Mes=
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 (yiya)<br>Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 6:20 PM<br>To: Acee Lindem (acee)=
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Support as a co-author.

Faraz

On 1/26/16, 11:06 AM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

>Authors, Contributors,
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>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2743/
>
>Which is a formal confirmation of:
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2713/
>
>Please reply explicitly to this poll.
>
>Thanks,
>Acee and Abhay
>


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I am not aware of any additional IPR

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Support as a co-author.

Faraz

On 1/26/16, 11:06 AM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

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>
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>draft other than what has already been disclosed.
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2743/
>
>Which is a formal confirmation of:
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2713/
>
>Please reply explicitly to this poll.
>
>Thanks,
>Acee and Abhay
>


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I am not aware of any IPR pertaining to this draft.


Faraz

On 1/26/16, 11:06 AM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

>Authors, Contributors,
>
>Please indicate whether or not you are aware of any IPR pertaining to this
>draft other than what has already been disclosed.
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2743/
>
>Which is a formal confirmation of:
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2713/
>
>Please reply explicitly to this poll.
>
>Thanks,
>Acee and Abhay
>


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Support as a co-author.

Copying other co-authors of this draft.

Faraz

On 1/26/16, 10:39 AM, "OSPF on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee)"
<ospf-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of acee@cisco.com> wrote:

>This draft was has gone through some refinements after being presented in
>Hawaii and in Yokohama there was some support of this protocol extension.
>Here is a URL for you convenience.
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-raza-ospf-stub-neighbor/
>
>Please indicate your support (or concerns) for adopting this as a WG
>Document. The WG Adoption call will end in 2 weeks.
>
>Thanks,
>Acee
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Dear All,


I support this draft to move forward.

Thanks a lot!

Best wishes
Qiong


-----Original Message-----
From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Acee Lindem (acee)
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:31 PM
To: OSPF WG List; draft-ietf-ospf-ttz@ietf.org
Subject: [OSPF] Working Group Last Call for "OSPF Topology Transparent Zone=
"

This is the start of the WG last call for the =E2=80=9COSPF Topology Transp=
arent
Zone=E2=80=9D protocol extensions draft. We=E2=80=99ve had a number of disc=
ussions on this
and Huawei has a prototype implementation. The WG last call will end at
12:00 AM PDT on February 1st, 2016. For your convenience, here is a URL:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-ttz/

Thanks,
Acee and Abhay

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Dear All,<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I support this=
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Support as co-author

Padma

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Support as a co-author.

Copying other co-authors of this draft.

Faraz

On 1/26/16, 10:39 AM, "OSPF on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee)"
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>This draft was has gone through some refinements after being presented in
>Hawaii and in Yokohama there was some support of this protocol extension.
>Here is a URL for you convenience.
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-raza-ospf-stub-neighbor/
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>Please indicate your support (or concerns) for adopting this as a WG
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I am not aware of any additional IPR.

Thanks & Regards,
Veerendranath

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Authors,

Please indicate whether you are aware of any relevant IPR and if so, whethe=
r it has been disclosed.

This IPR has been disclosed: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2701/

Thanks,
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Folks

I have not seen any response to my email below.  Does this mean that my com=
ments will be incorporated into the next version of draft-ietf-ospf-yang?

Regards
Alan

From: Alan Davey
Sent: 15 December 2015 16:23
To: draft-ietf-ospf-yang@ietf.org
Cc: ospf@ietf.org
Subject: draft-ietf-ospf-yang-03 questions and doubts

Folks

I have a doubt about draft-ietf-ospf-yang-03.  Please let me know your thou=
ghts on the following.

The text is OSPFv2-specific in places.  I think that it would be better to =
define separate top-level groupings and containers for OSPFv2 and OSPFv3 an=
d define common groupings and containers, where possible, that are used by =
both.

For example, grouping interface-operation contains the following, which is =
incorrect for OSPFv3.


-          leaf dr with type ipv4-address

-          leaf bdr with type ipv4-address.

I think that it would be better to define something along the following lin=
es.


-          ospfv3-interface-operation {

o   uses interface-config

o   uses ospf-common-interface-operation

o   leaf dr {

?  type if:interface-ref

?  description:

*                   "The remote interface ID used by the Designated Router =
on

*                   this link.  This is the interface index of the interfac=
e local to the DR.";

o   etc

-          ospfv2-interface-operation {

o   uses interface-config

o   uses ospf-common-interface-operation

o   leaf dr {

?           type inet:ipv4-address;

?           description "Designated Router (DR) IP address.";

o   etc.

Regards
Alan Davey


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Folks<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I have not seen any re=
sponse to my email below.&nbsp; Does this mean that my comments will be inc=
orporated into the next version of draft-ietf-ospf-yang?<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Regards<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Alan<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-languag=
e:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language=
:EN-GB"> Alan Davey
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 December 2015 16:23<br>
<b>To:</b> draft-ietf-ospf-yang@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ospf@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> draft-ietf-ospf-yang-03 questions and doubts<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Folks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a doubt about draft-ietf-ospf-yang-03.&nbsp; =
Please let me know your thoughts on the following.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The text is OSPFv2-specific in places.&nbsp; I think=
 that it would be better to define separate top-level groupings and contain=
ers for OSPFv2 and OSPFv3 and define common groupings and containers, where=
 possible, that are used by both.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">For example, grouping interface-operation contains t=
he following, which is incorrect for OSPFv3.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]>leaf dr with type ipv4-address<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]>leaf bdr with type ipv4-address.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I think that it would be better to define something =
along the following lines.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]>ospfv3-interface-operation {<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><s=
pan style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">o<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>uses interface-config<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><s=
pan style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">o<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>uses ospf-common-interface-operation<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><s=
pan style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">o<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>leaf dr {<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:Wingdings"><span style=3D"m=
so-list:Ignore">&sect;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
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</span></span></span><![endif]>type if:interface-ref<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:Wingdings"><span style=3D"m=
so-list:Ignore">&sect;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;
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<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:144.0pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:Symbol"><span style=3D"mso-=
list:Ignore">&middot;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;"=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&quot;The remote interface ID used by the Designated Router=
 on<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:144.0pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:Symbol"><span style=3D"mso-=
list:Ignore">&middot;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;"=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;this link.&nbsp; This is the interface index of the interfa=
ce local to the DR.&quot;;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><s=
pan style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">o<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>etc<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 leve=
l1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">-<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span><![endif]>ospfv2-interface-operation {<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><s=
pan style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">o<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>uses interface-config<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><s=
pan style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">o<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>uses ospf-common-interface-operation<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><s=
pan style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">o<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>leaf dr {<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:Wingdings"><span style=3D"m=
so-list:Ignore">&sect;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;type inet:ipv4-address;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.=
0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:Wingdings"><span style=3D"m=
so-list:Ignore">&sect;<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
">&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;description &quot;Designated Router (DR) IP address.&quot;;<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0=
pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2">
<![if !supportLists]><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;"><s=
pan style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">o<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]>etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Alan Davey<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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    Hello,
    Hub-and-Spoke topology is a known topology where OSPF traditionally 
performed poorly and in my opinion work in this area is very important.
    On the other hand, I have number of concerns regarding usability of 
approach chosen in this draft and I think in its current state the draft 
is not ready for WG adoption.
    I have big concerns regarding implementation simplicity and solution 
applicability (i.e. hub-and-spoke networks where proposed solution 
doesn't work). But first of all I want to make a comment on the text as 
it is.
    Some hub-and-spoke topologies are point-to-multipoint networks. 10 
years ago it was a fraction of all hub-and-spoke WAN, nowadays it is a 
majority. Draft doesn't consider multipoint operations (at least it 
doesn't have word 'multipoint' in it). But multipoint has very big 
implications on having multiple spoofed Router LSAs and their filtering 
- since all stub neighbors are on the same interface, one can't use 
per-interface filtering (which is tightly related to per-interface 
flooding). Spoofed Router LSA will have a new type of flooding behavior 
- per-neighbor. This is doable but it is not specified anywhere and is 
not coded by any implementation I am aware of (i.e. existing filtering 
mechanisms are between different interfaces, not between neighbors on 
the same multipoint interface).
    So the draft needs to define new LSA flooding scope - per-neighbor 
flooding scope, much like interface-scope flooding had to be devised for 
Opaque LSAs.
    This is not all for implementation complexity not covered in the 
draft but it will be a good start.

Anton


On 01/26/2016 05:39 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
> This draft was has gone through some refinements after being presented in
> Hawaii and in Yokohama there was some support of this protocol extension.
> Here is a URL for you convenience.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-raza-ospf-stub-neighbor/
>
> Please indicate your support (or concerns) for adopting this as a WG
> Document. The WG Adoption call will end in 2 weeks.
>
> Thanks,
> Acee
>
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