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There were a couple clarifications - most notably clarifying the
pseudo-header being used to calculate the checksum.

I have approved the draft to proceed to the RFC Editor, but would recommend
those interested
read this version.

Obviously, if necessary, clarifications are still possible during AUTH48.

Regards,
Alia

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<div dir=3D"ltr">There were a couple clarifications - most notably clarifyi=
ng the pseudo-header being used to calculate the checksum.<div><br></div><d=
iv>I have approved the draft to proceed to the RFC Editor, but would recomm=
end those interested</div><div>read this version.</div><div><br></div><div>=
Obviously, if necessary, clarifications are still possible during AUTH48.</=
div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Alia</div></div>

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF.

        Title           : OSPFv3 over IPv4 for IPv6 Transition
        Authors         : I. Chen
                          A. Lindem
                          R. Atkinson
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ospf-transition-to-ospfv3-12.txt
	Pages           : 11
	Date            : 2016-07-01

Abstract:
   This document defines a mechanism to use IPv4 to transport OSPFv3
   packets.  Using OSPFv3 over IPv4 with the existing OSPFv3 Address
   Family extension can simplify transition from an OSPFv2 IPv4-only
   routing domain to an OSPFv3 dual-stack routing domain.  This document
   updates RFC 5838 to support virtual links in the IPv4 unicast address
   family when using OSPFv3 over IPv4.


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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'OSPFv3 over IPv4 for IPv6 Transition'
  (draft-ietf-ospf-transition-to-ospfv3-12.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Open Shortest Path First IGP Working
Group.

The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah
Brungard.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ospf-transition-to-ospfv3/





Technical Summary

      This document specifies a mechanism to transport OSPFv3 packets over IPv4
      routing domain using the existing OSPFv3 Address Family extension. It
      simplifies transition from an OSPFv2 IPv4-only routing domain to an
      OSPFv3 dual-stack routing domain. It updates RFC 5838 to support virtual
      links in the IPv4 unicast address family when using OSPFv3 over IPv4.


Working Group Summary

   This document brings in deployment benefit with little change to OSPFv3
     protocol and no impact to IPv4 transport. It received strong support
     for WG acceptance. There has not been any more comments since WGLC. 

Document Quality

   Most questions were raised and addressed during the I.D stage.
      Since then the draft is stable, without changes to the technical
      solution for more than six months.

Personnel

    Wenhu Lu is the Document Shepherd.
      Alia Atlas is the Responsible Area Director.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
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        Title           : H-bit Support for OSPFv2
        Authors         : Keyur Patel
                          Padma Pillay-Esnault
                          Manish Bhardwaj
                          Serpil Bayraktar
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv2-hbit-01.txt
	Pages           : 8
	Date            : 2016-07-05

Abstract:
   OSPFv3 defines an option field for router-LSAs known as a R-bit in
   RFC5340.  If the R-bit is clear, an OSPFv3 router can participate in
   OSPF topology distribution without acting as a forwarder to forward
   the transit traffic.  In such cases, an OSPF router would only accept
   traffic intended for local delivery.  This draft defines R-bit
   functionality for OSPFv2 defined in RFC2328.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF.

        Title           : OSPF Extensions for Segment Routing
        Authors         : Peter Psenak
                          Stefano Previdi
                          Clarence Filsfils
                          Hannes Gredler
                          Rob Shakir
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Jeff Tantsura
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions-09.txt
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	Date            : 2016-07-06

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   Segment Routing (SR) allows a flexible definition of end-to-end paths
   within IGP topologies by encoding paths as sequences of topological
   sub-paths, called "segments".  These segments are advertised by the
   link-state routing protocols (IS-IS and OSPF).

   This draft describes the OSPF extensions required for Segment
   Routing.



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF.

        Title           : OSPFv3 Extensions for Segment Routing
        Authors         : Peter Psenak
                          Stefano Previdi
                          Clarence Filsfils
                          Hannes Gredler
                          Rob Shakir
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Jeff Tantsura
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   This draft describes the OSPFv3 extensions that are required for
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF.

        Title           : OSPF Link Overload
        Authors         : Shraddha Hegde
                          Pushpasis Sarkar
                          Hannes Gredler
                          Mohan Nanduri
                          Luay Jalil
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-02.txt
	Pages           : 11
	Date            : 2016-07-07

Abstract:
   When a link is being prepared to be taken out of service, the traffic
   needs to be diverted from both ends of the link.  Increasing the
   metric to the highest metric on one side of the link is not
   sufficient to divert the traffic flowing in the other direction.

   It is useful for routers in an OSPFv2 or OSPFv3 routing domain to be
   able to advertise a link being in an overload state to indicate
   impending maintenance activity on the link.  This information can be
   used by the network devices to re-route the traffic effectively.

   This document describes the protocol extensions to disseminate link
   overload information in OSPFv2 and OSPFv3.



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This draft is a work item of the Open Shortest Path First IGP of the IETF.

        Title           : Yang Data Model for OSPF Protocol 
        Authors         : Derek Yeung
                          Yingzhen Qu
                          Jeffrey Zhang
                          Dean Bogdanovic
                          Kiran Koushik Agrahara Sreenivasa
	Filename        : draft-ietf-ospf-yang-05.txt
	Pages           : 116
	Date            : 2016-07-07

Abstract:
   This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure
   and manage OSPF.


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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7884

        Title:      OSPF Extensions to Advertise Seamless 
                    Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (S-BFD) Target 
                    Discriminators 
        Author:     C. Pignataro, M. Bhatia,
                    S. Aldrin, T. Ranganath
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       July 2016
        Mailbox:    cpignata@cisco.com, 
                    manav@ionosnetworks.com, 
                    aldrin.ietf@gmail.com,
                    trilok.ranganatha@nokia.com
        Pages:      7
        Characters: 13612
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-ospf-sbfd-discriminator-06.txt

        URL:        https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7884

        DOI:        http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7884

This document defines a new OSPF Router Information (RI) TLV that
allows OSPF routers to flood the Seamless Bidirectional Forwarding
Detection (S-BFD) Discriminator values associated with a target
network identifier.  This mechanism is applicable to both OSPFv2 and
OSPFv3.

This document is a product of the Open Shortest Path First IGP Working Group of the IETF.

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Hi All,

I need clarification on setting the Forwarding address set for type-5 LSA. As per RFC 2328 it is not obviously mentioned anywhere that the forwarding address can be set to connected, inter-area or intra-area routers but in the section 16.4 (Calculating AS external routes) it is mentioned that the forwarding address can be set to inter-area or intra-area as well. Snippet from the RFC is provided below for quick reference. Can you please confirm if the forwarding address can be set to ospf connected, inter-area or intra-area route while generating external LSA. Thanks.

**********************************
If the forwarding address is non-zero, look up the
            forwarding address in the routing table.[24] The matching
            routing table entry must specify an intra-area or inter-area
            path; if no such path exists, do nothing with the LSA and
            consider the next in the list.
******************************

Best Regards,
Radha

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Hi All,
One more point to add, I could not find any scenario where next-hop (forwarding-address) could be from inter-area or intra-area route. If any scenarios on this could also be much useful. Thank you.

Best Regards,
Radha

From: Radha Danda
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To: ospf@ietf.org
Subject: FW: Forwarding address set for type-5

Hi All,

I need clarification on setting the Forwarding address set for type-5 LSA. As per RFC 2328 it is not obviously mentioned anywhere that the forwarding address can be set to connected, inter-area or intra-area routers but in the section 16.4 (Calculating AS external routes) it is mentioned that the forwarding address can be set to inter-area or intra-area as well. Snippet from the RFC is provided below for quick reference. Can you please confirm if the forwarding address can be set to ospf connected, inter-area or intra-area route while generating external LSA. Thanks.

**********************************
If the forwarding address is non-zero, look up the
            forwarding address in the routing table.[24] The matching
            routing table entry must specify an intra-area or inter-area
            path; if no such path exists, do nothing with the LSA and
            consider the next in the list.
******************************

Best Regards,
Radha

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Hi All,
        I have a question on when forwarding address is set in external
LSA?

Suppose I have a route from RIP say 100.1.1.0/24 with nexthop 10.1.1.1 in
routing table and I want to redistribute that route into OSPF, then I feel
below conditions must be vaild to set 10.1.1.1 as forwarding address in the
external LSA that OSPF originates for 100.1.1.0/24 network.

These conditions set the forwarding address field to a non-zero address:

    OSPF is enabled on the ASBR's next hop interface AND

    ASBR's next hop interface is non-passive under OSPF AND

    ASBR's next hop interface is not point-to-point AND

    ASBR's next hop interface is not point-to-multipoint AND

    ASBR's next hop interface address falls under the network range
specified in the router ospf command.

Any other conditions besides these set the forwarding address to 0.0.0.0.


If I have 10.1.1.0/24 network as intra or inter route in OSPF routing table
at the router that imported RIP route, do I originate External LSA with
10.1.1.1 set as forwarding address ?


There is a confusion that if the redistributed network nexthop is present
in routing table as intra inter or connected route, we need to set it as
forwarding address. Please clarify.


While we receive a External LSA with forwarding address set, then we see if
there is a connected, intra or inter route to that nexthop and then use it
to compute the route nexthop. This is clear.

Thanks & Regards,
Abhinay R

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi All,<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I have a question =
on when forwarding address is set in external LSA?=C2=A0</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Suppose I have a route from RIP say <a href=3D"http://100.1.1.0/24">=
100.1.1.0/24</a> with nexthop 10.1.1.1 in routing table and I want to redis=
tribute that route into OSPF, then I feel below conditions must be vaild to=
 set 10.1.1.1 as forwarding address in the external LSA that OSPF originate=
s for <a href=3D"http://100.1.1.0/24">100.1.1.0/24</a> network.</div><div><=
br></div><div><pre><code>These conditions set the forwarding address field =
to a non-zero address:

    OSPF is enabled on the ASBR&#39;s next hop interface AND

    ASBR&#39;s next hop interface is non-passive under OSPF AND

    ASBR&#39;s next hop interface is not point-to-point AND

    ASBR&#39;s next hop interface is not point-to-multipoint AND

    ASBR&#39;s next hop interface address falls under the network range spe=
cified in the router ospf command.

Any other conditions besides these set the forwarding address to 0.0.0.0.</=
code></pre></div><div><br></div><div>If I have <a href=3D"http://10.1.1.0/2=
4">10.1.1.0/24</a> network as intra or inter route in OSPF routing table at=
 the router that imported RIP route, do I originate External LSA with 10.1.=
1.1 set as forwarding address ?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The=
re is a confusion that if the redistributed network nexthop is present in r=
outing table as intra inter or connected route, we need to set it as forwar=
ding address. Please clarify.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>While=
 we receive a External LSA with forwarding address set, then we see if ther=
e is a connected, intra or inter route to that nexthop and then use it to c=
ompute the route nexthop. This is clear.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks &a=
mp; Regards,</div><div>Abhinay R</div></div>

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Thank you Acee

Best Regards ,
Radha



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From: "Acee Lindem (acee)"
Date:13/07/2016 5:15 PM (GMT+05:30)
To: Radha Danda , ospf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [OSPF] FW: Forwarding address set for type-5

Hi Radha,
The forwarding address (next-hop) for an AS-External LSA may be advertised if it is reachable via an OSPF inter-area or intra-area route. You included connected routes  in your question and this is not necessarily correct since a connected route will only be accessible to other OSPF routers in the domain if it is advertised in OSPF. For NSSA LSAs, the next-hop should be reachable via an intra-area route in the NSSA.

Some implementations limit the advertising to the case where the next-hop is on a multi-access network.

Hope this helps,
Acee



From: OSPF <ospf-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Radha Danda <rdanda@Brocade.com<mailto:rdanda@Brocade.com>>
Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 7:15 AM
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Subject: [OSPF] FW: Forwarding address set for type-5

Hi All,

I need clarification on setting the Forwarding address set for type-5 LSA. As per RFC 2328 it is not obviously mentioned anywhere that the forwarding address can be set to connected, inter-area or intra-area routers but in the section 16.4 (Calculating AS external routes) it is mentioned that the forwarding address can be set to inter-area or intra-area as well. Snippet from the RFC is provided below for quick reference. Can you please confirm if the forwarding address can be set to ospf connected, inter-area or intra-area route while generating external LSA. Thanks.

**********************************
If the forwarding address is non-zero, look up the
            forwarding address in the routing table.[24] The matching
            routing table entry must specify an intra-area or inter-area
            path; if no such path exists, do nothing with the LSA and
            consider the next in the list.
******************************

Best Regards,
Radha

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<div>Hi Radha,&nbsp;</div>
<div>The forwarding address (next-hop) for an AS-External LSA may be advert=
ised if it is reachable via an OSPF inter-area or intra-area route. You inc=
luded connected routes &nbsp;in your question and this is not necessarily c=
orrect since a connected route will only
 be accessible to other OSPF routers in the domain if it is advertised in O=
SPF. For NSSA LSAs, the next-hop should be reachable via an intra-area rout=
e in the NSSA.&nbsp;</div>
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</div>
<div>Some implementations limit the advertising to the case where the next-=
hop is on a multi-access network.&nbsp;</div>
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<div>Hope this helps,&nbsp;</div>
<div>Acee&nbsp;</div>
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LSA. As per RFC 2328 it is not obviously mentioned anywhere that the forwar=
ding address can be set to connected, inter-area or intra-area routers but =
in the section 16.4 (<span style=3D"color:black">Calculating AS external ro=
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or intra-area as well. Snippet from the RFC is provided below for quick ref=
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 connected, inter-area or intra-area route while generating external LSA. T=
hanks.</span></pre>
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up the</span></p>
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Hi Acee,
        According to "12.4.4. AS-external-LSAs" where forwarding address
example is given, I see that it states forwarding address will just help to
skip a extra hop to destination.
And don't you think if forwarding address is set to inter area nexthop,
then if that inter area route gets deleted. it will take time for that
change to reach the ASBR and then ASBR to compute the change and originate
new External LSA with no forwarding address.and this need to be flooded
across the AS and new route need to be installed in them, which will be
time consuming. So don't you think that forwarding address must be set if
the next hop is part of connected network ?

and is there any scenario where the nexthop will be intra or inter area
route, until the nexthop is explicitly set with routemap.


 12.4.4.1.  Examples of AS-external-LSAs

                Consider once again the AS pictured in Figure 6.  There
                are two AS boundary routers: RT5 and RT7.  Router RT5
                originates three AS-external-LSAs, for networks N12-N14.
                Router RT7 originates two AS-external-LSAs, for networks
                N12 and N15.  Assume that RT7 has learned its route to
                N12 via BGP, and that it wishes to advertise a Type 2
                metric to the AS.  RT7 would then originate the
                following LSA for N12:

        ; AS-external-LSA for Network N12,
        ; originated by Router RT7

        LS age =3D 0                  ;always true on origination
        Options =3D (E-bit)           ;
        LS type =3D 5                 ;AS-external-LSA
        Link State ID =3D N12's IP network number
        Advertising Router =3D Router RT7's ID
        bit E =3D 1                   ;Type 2 metric
        metric =3D 2
        Forwarding address =3D 0.0.0.0





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                    In the above example, the forwarding address field
                    has been set to 0.0.0.0, indicating that packets for
                    the external destination should be forwarded to the
                    advertising OSPF router (RT7).  This is not always
                    desirable.  Consider the example pictured in Figure
                    16.  There are three OSPF routers (RTA, RTB and RTC)
                    connected to a common network.  Only one of these
                    routers, RTA, is exchanging BGP information with the
                    non-OSPF router RTX.  RTA must then originate AS-
                    external-LSAs for those destinations it has learned
                    from RTX.  By using the AS-external-LSA's forwarding
                    address field, RTA can specify that packets for
                    these destinations be forwarded directly to RTX.
                   * Without this feature, Routers RTB and RTC would take
                    an extra hop to get to these destinations.*

                    Note that when the forwarding address field is non-
                    zero, it should point to a router belonging to
                    another Autonomous System.

                    A forwarding address can also be specified for the
                    default route.  For example, in figure 16 RTA may
                    want to specify that all externally-destined packets
                    should by default be forwarded to its BGP peer RTX.
                    The resulting AS-external-LSA is pictured below.
                    Note that the Link State ID is set to
                    DefaultDestination.

        ; Default route, originated by Router RTA
        ; Packets forwarded through RTX

        LS age =3D 0                  ;always true on origination
        Options =3D (E-bit)           ;
        LS type =3D 5                 ;AS-external-LSA
        Link State ID =3D DefaultDestination  ; default route
        Advertising Router =3D Router RTA's ID
        bit E =3D 1                   ;Type 2 metric
        metric =3D 1
        Forwarding address =3D RTX's IP address

                    In figure 16, suppose instead that both RTA and RTB
                    exchange BGP information with RTX.  In this case,



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                    RTA and RTB would originate the same set of AS-
                    external-LSAs.  These LSAs, if they specify the same
                    metric, would be functionally equivalent since they
                    would specify the same destination and forwarding
                    address (RTX).  This leads to a clear duplication of
                    effort.  If only one of RTA or RTB originated the
                    set of AS-external-LSAs, the routing would remain
                    the same, and the size of the link state database
                    would decrease.  However, it must be unambiguously
                    defined as to which router originates the LSAs
                    (otherwise neither may, or the identity of the
                    originator may oscillate).  The following rule is
                    thereby established: if two routers, both reachable
                    from one another, originate functionally equivalent
                    AS-external-LSAs (i.e., same destination, cost and
                    non-zero forwarding address), then the LSA
                    originated by the router having the highest OSPF
                    Router ID is used.  The router having the lower OSPF
                    Router ID can then flush its LSA.  Flushing an LSA
                    is discussed in Section 14.1.


                                +
                                |
                      +---+.....|.BGP
                      |RTA|-----|.....+---+
                      +---+     |-----|RTX|
                                |     +---+
                      +---+     |
                      |RTB|-----|
                      +---+     |
                                |
                      +---+     |
                      |RTC|-----|
                      +---+     |
                                |
                                +


               Figure 16: Forwarding address example


Thanks & Regards,

Abhinay R


On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

> Hi Abhinay,
>
> Your questions are very implementation specific but since I=E2=80=99m a g=
ood guy=E2=80=A6
>
> From: OSPF <ospf-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Abhinay R <
> abhinay.is2006@gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 8:11 AM
> To: OSPF WG List <ospf@ietf.org>
> Subject: [OSPF] I have a question regarding forwarding address
>
> Hi All,
>         I have a question on when forwarding address is set in external
> LSA?
>
> Suppose I have a route from RIP say 100.1.1.0/24 with nexthop 10.1.1.1 in
> routing table and I want to redistribute that route into OSPF, then I fee=
l
> below conditions must be vaild to set 10.1.1.1 as forwarding address in t=
he
> external LSA that OSPF originates for 100.1.1.0/24 network.
>
> These conditions set the forwarding address field to a non-zero address:
>
>     OSPF is enabled on the ASBR's next hop interface AND
>
>
> Although, it would be a strange topology where it weren=E2=80=99t enabled=
, it only
> has to be reachable within the OSPF routing domain as an intra or inter
> area route.
>
>
>
>     ASBR's next hop interface is non-passive under OSPF AND
>
> This should have no bearing on whether the forwarding address is
> advertised. There could be a better path through the OSPF routing domain
> independent of whether the interface is passive.
>
>
>
>     ASBR's next hop interface is not point-to-point AND
>
>     ASBR's next hop interface is not point-to-multipoint AND
>
>
> Although the likelihood of the forwarding address providing a better path
> is increased for multi-access networks, it is not necessary.
>
>
>
>     ASBR's next hop interface address falls under the network range speci=
fied in the router ospf command.
>
>
> Again, the next hop only has to be reachable within the OSPF routing
> domain as an intra or inter area route.
>
> Hope the Helps,
> Acee
>
>
>
>
>
> Any other conditions besides these set the forwarding address to 0.0.0.0.
>
>
> If I have 10.1.1.0/24 network as intra or inter route in OSPF routing
> table at the router that imported RIP route, do I originate External LSA
> with 10.1.1.1 set as forwarding address ?
>
>
> There is a confusion that if the redistributed network nexthop is present
> in routing table as intra inter or connected route, we need to set it as
> forwarding address. Please clarify.
>
>
> While we receive a External LSA with forwarding address set, then we see
> if there is a connected, intra or inter route to that nexthop and then us=
e
> it to compute the route nexthop. This is clear.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Abhinay R
>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Acee,<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 According to &quo=
t;<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">12.4.4.  AS-externa=
l-LSAs&quot; where forwarding address example is given, I see that it state=
s forwarding address will just help to skip a extra hop to destination. </s=
pan></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">And do=
n&#39;t you think if forwarding address is set to inter area nexthop, then =
if that inter area route gets deleted. it will take time for that change to=
 reach the ASBR and then ASBR to compute the change and originate new Exter=
nal LSA with no forwarding address.and this need to be flooded across the A=
S and new route need to be installed in them, which will be time consuming.=
=C2=A0So don&#39;t you think that forwarding address must be set if the nex=
t hop is part of connected network ?</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color=
:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">and is there any scenario where the nexth=
op will be intra or inter area route, until the nexthop is explicitly set w=
ith routemap. </span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space=
:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-spac=
e:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><div><pre style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);word-wrap:=
break-word;white-space:pre-wrap"> 12.4.4.1.  Examples of AS-external-LSAs

                Consider once again the AS pictured in Figure 6.  There
                are two AS boundary routers: RT5 and RT7.  Router RT5
                originates three AS-external-LSAs, for networks N12-N14.
                Router RT7 originates two AS-external-LSAs, for networks
                N12 and N15.  Assume that RT7 has learned its route to
                N12 via BGP, and that it wishes to advertise a Type 2
                metric to the AS.  RT7 would then originate the
                following LSA for N12:

        ; AS-external-LSA for Network N12,
        ; originated by Router RT7

        LS age =3D 0                  ;always true on origination
        Options =3D (E-bit)           ;
        LS type =3D 5                 ;AS-external-LSA
        Link State ID =3D N12&#39;s IP network number
        Advertising Router =3D Router RT7&#39;s ID
        bit E =3D 1                   ;Type 2 metric
        metric =3D 2
        Forwarding address =3D 0.0.0.0





Moy                         Standards Track                   [Page 140]
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RFC 2328                     OSPF Version 2                   April 1998


                    In the above example, the forwarding address field
                    has been set to 0.0.0.0, indicating that packets for
                    the external destination should be forwarded to the
                    advertising OSPF router (RT7).  This is not always
                    desirable.  Consider the example pictured in Figure
                    16.  There are three OSPF routers (RTA, RTB and RTC)
                    connected to a common network.  Only one of these
                    routers, RTA, is exchanging BGP information with the
                    non-OSPF router RTX.  RTA must then originate AS-
                    external-LSAs for those destinations it has learned
                    from RTX.  By using the AS-external-LSA&#39;s forwardin=
g
                    address field, RTA can specify that packets for
                    these destinations be forwarded directly to RTX.
                   <b> Without this feature, Routers RTB and RTC would take
                    an extra hop to get to these destinations.</b>

                    Note that when the forwarding address field is non-
                    zero, it should point to a router belonging to
                    another Autonomous System.

                    A forwarding address can also be specified for the
                    default route.  For example, in figure 16 RTA may
                    want to specify that all externally-destined packets
                    should by default be forwarded to its BGP peer RTX.
                    The resulting AS-external-LSA is pictured below.
                    Note that the Link State ID is set to
                    DefaultDestination.

        ; Default route, originated by Router RTA
        ; Packets forwarded through RTX

        LS age =3D 0                  ;always true on origination
        Options =3D (E-bit)           ;
        LS type =3D 5                 ;AS-external-LSA
        Link State ID =3D DefaultDestination  ; default route
        Advertising Router =3D Router RTA&#39;s ID
        bit E =3D 1                   ;Type 2 metric
        metric =3D 1
        Forwarding address =3D RTX&#39;s IP address

                    In figure 16, suppose instead that both RTA and RTB
                    exchange BGP information with RTX.  In this case,



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                    RTA and RTB would originate the same set of AS-
                    external-LSAs.  These LSAs, if they specify the same
                    metric, would be functionally equivalent since they
                    would specify the same destination and forwarding
                    address (RTX).  This leads to a clear duplication of
                    effort.  If only one of RTA or RTB originated the
                    set of AS-external-LSAs, the routing would remain
                    the same, and the size of the link state database
                    would decrease.  However, it must be unambiguously
                    defined as to which router originates the LSAs
                    (otherwise neither may, or the identity of the
                    originator may oscillate).  The following rule is
                    thereby established: if two routers, both reachable
                    from one another, originate functionally equivalent
                    AS-external-LSAs (i.e., same destination, cost and
                    non-zero forwarding address), then the LSA
                    originated by the router having the highest OSPF
                    Router ID is used.  The router having the lower OSPF
                    Router ID can then flush its LSA.  Flushing an LSA
                    is discussed in Section 14.1.


                                +
                                |
                      +---+.....|.BGP
                      |RTA|-----|.....+---+
                      +---+     |-----|RTX|
                                |     +---+
                      +---+     |
                      |RTB|-----|
                      +---+     |
                                |
                      +---+     |
                      |RTC|-----|
                      +---+     |
                                |
                                +


               Figure 16: Forwarding address example

</pre><pre style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);word-wrap:break-word;white-space:pre-w=
rap">Thanks &amp; Regards,</pre><pre style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);word-wrap:br=
eak-word;white-space:pre-wrap">Abhinay R</pre></div></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 7:29 PM, A=
cee Lindem (acee) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:acee@cisco.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">acee@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">



<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-fam=
ily:Calibri,sans-serif">
<div>Hi Abhinay,=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Your questions are very implementation specific but since I=E2=80=99m =
a good guy=E2=80=A6=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<span>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:blac=
k;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADD=
ING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:me=
dium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt">
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From: </span>OSPF &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:os=
pf-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">ospf-bounces@ietf.org</a>&gt; on beh=
alf of Abhinay R &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:abhinay.is2006@gmail.com" target=3D"=
_blank">abhinay.is2006@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 8=
:11 AM<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </span>OSPF WG List &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:ospf@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">ospf@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>[OSPF] I have a question r=
egarding forwarding address<br>
</div><span class=3D"">
<div><br>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#b5c4df 5 solid;PADDING:0 0 0 5;MARGIN:0 0=
 0 5">
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi All,
<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I have a question on when forwarding addre=
ss is set in external LSA?=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Suppose I have a route from RIP say <a href=3D"http://100.1.1.0/24" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">100.1.1.0/24</a> with nexthop 10.1.1.1 in routing table and=
 I want to redistribute that route into OSPF, then I feel below conditions =
must be vaild to set 10.1.1.1 as forwarding address
 in the external LSA that OSPF originates for <a href=3D"http://100.1.1.0/2=
4" target=3D"_blank">100.1.1.0/24</a> network.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<pre><code>These conditions set the forwarding address field to a non-zero =
address:

    OSPF is enabled on the ASBR&#39;s next hop interface AND</code></pre>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</span></span>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Although, it would be a strange topology where it weren=E2=80=99t enab=
led, it only has to be reachable within the OSPF routing domain as an intra=
 or inter area route.=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"">
<div><br>
</div>
<span>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#b5c4df 5 solid;PADDING:0 0 0 5;MARGIN:0 0=
 0 5">
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>
<pre><code>

    ASBR&#39;s next hop interface is non-passive under OSPF AND</code></pre=
>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</span>
</span><div>This should have no bearing on whether the forwarding address i=
s advertised. There could be a better path through the OSPF routing domain =
independent of whether the interface is passive.=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"=
">
<span>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#b5c4df 5 solid;PADDING:0 0 0 5;MARGIN:0 0=
 0 5">
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>
<pre><code>

    ASBR&#39;s next hop interface is not point-to-point AND

    ASBR&#39;s next hop interface is not point-to-multipoint AND</code></pr=
e>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</span>
<div><br>
</div>
</span><div>Although the likelihood of the forwarding address providing a b=
etter path is increased for multi-access networks, it is not necessary.=C2=
=A0</div><span class=3D"">
<div><br>
</div>
<span>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#b5c4df 5 solid;PADDING:0 0 0 5;MARGIN:0 0=
 0 5">
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>
<pre><code>

    ASBR&#39;s next hop interface address falls under the network range spe=
cified in the router ospf command.</code></pre>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</span>
<div><br>
</div>
</span><div>Again, the next hop only has to be reachable within the OSPF ro=
uting domain as an intra or inter area route.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Hope the Helps,</div>
<div>Acee=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"">
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<span>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#b5c4df 5 solid;PADDING:0 0 0 5;MARGIN:0 0=
 0 5">
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>
<pre><code>

Any other conditions besides these set the forwarding address to 0.0.0.0.</=
code></pre>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If I have <a href=3D"http://10.1.1.0/24" target=3D"_blank">10.1.1.0/24=
</a> network as intra or inter route in OSPF routing table at the router th=
at imported RIP route, do I originate External LSA with 10.1.1.1 set as for=
warding address ?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There is a confusion that if the redistributed network nexthop is pres=
ent in routing table as intra inter or connected route, we need to set it a=
s forwarding address. Please clarify.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>While we receive a External LSA with forwarding address set, then we s=
ee if there is a connected, intra or inter route to that nexthop and then u=
se it to compute the route nexthop. This is clear.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks &amp; Regards,</div>
<div>Abhinay R</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</span>
</span></div>

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The following errata report has been rejected for RFC6987,
"OSPF Stub Router Advertisement".

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=6987&eid=4685

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Status: Rejected
Type: Technical

Reported by: Alexander Okonnikov <alexander.okonnikov@gmail.com>
Date Reported: 2016-05-06
Rejected by: Alia Atlas (IESG)

Section: 4

Original Text
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Corrected Text
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(At the end of the section)

If the stub router is located in transit area, crossed by virtual
link(s), latter will become inoperational in case the stub router is
on path between two virtual link endpoints - either due to only path
in transit area or due to topology changes which move stub router onto
this path. 

Notes
-----
Virtual links become inoperational in case path metric between two endpoints is > 0xffff. Path metric of two or more links, one of which has MaxLinkMetric, will inevitably exceed value 0xffff.
 --VERIFIER NOTES-- 
   The suggested text is technically correct, however it is really providing additional information rather than an actual errata.   If this RFC is revised, then a discussion with the working group would be appropriate.

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RFC6987 (draft-ietf-ospf-rfc3137bis-04)
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Title               : OSPF Stub Router Advertisement
Publication Date    : September 2013
Author(s)           : A. Retana, L. Nguyen, A. Zinin, R. White, D. McPherson
Category            : INFORMATIONAL
Source              : Open Shortest Path First IGP
Area                : Routing
Stream              : IETF
Verifying Party     : IESG


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Hi All,

following text has been added in the latest revision of the OSPFv2 SR 
draft, section 3.1.

"If the SR-Algorithm TLV is not advertised by node, such node is 
considered as not being segment routing capable."

Please let us know if there are any concerns regarding this addition.

thanks,
Peter


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I guess the below statement needs correction

Abhay Roy: MRT draft has normative reference on link overload LSA
    which is stuck at the moment.

Should be

Abhay Roy: MRT draft has normative reference on  "ospfv3 extended LSA"
    which is stuck at the moment.

Abhay, can you confirm?

Rgds
Shraddha

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Note that the OSPF WG minutes for IETF 96 have been posted. Please unicast =
me with any additions or correction.

https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/minutes/minutes-96-ospf

Thanks to Les Ginsberg for taking the minutes.

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First, I would like to thank the authors, Jeffrey, Lili, Acee, David,
Vibhor and Tom, for their work on this draft.

As is customary, I have done my AD review
of draft-ietf-ospf-two-part-metric-05.
I do have a few concerns which are detailed below.  The number of authors
will block progressing to IESG telechat until it is addressed.   Trusting
to a timely resolution of the issues below, I am requesting IETF Last
Call.  With prompt action, this document can make it to the August 18
telechat for approval.

Review Comments:

First, this fairly short document has 6 authors.   As you all well know,
the usual limit for drafts progressing is 5.  This greatly simplifies the
interactions during AUTH48 and there is rarely more than a few active
editors.  Please consider if you can reduce it and explain to me privately
what justifications might exist, if any, for not doing so.

Second, please update the TBDs in the document for the various IANA
allocated sub-TLV values to be TBD1, TBD2, and TBD3 so it's easier to
replace during IANA and RFC Editor processing.

Third, Sec 3.7 defines bit 0 to have specific meaning but doesn't indicate
that in the IANA section.  Please update the IANA section to clearly
indicate the bit being requested (or update the bit to be a TBD4).  The
term used to refer to the bit also varies between 3.7 and 4.  Please pick
one term and stick with it.  In 3.7, it is "Router Functional
Capability Bit" and in Sec 4, it is Router Informational Capability Bits.

Regards,
Alia

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<div dir=3D"ltr">First, I would like to thank the authors, Jeffrey, Lili, A=
cee, David, Vibhor and Tom, for their work on this draft.<div><br></div><di=
v>As is customary, I have done my AD review of=C2=A0draft-ietf-ospf-two-par=
t-metric-05.</div><div>I do have a few concerns which are detailed below.=
=C2=A0 The number of authors will block progressing to IESG telechat until =
it is addressed. =C2=A0 Trusting to a timely resolution of the issues below=
, I am requesting IETF Last Call.=C2=A0 With prompt action, this document c=
an make it to the August 18 telechat for approval.</div><div><br></div><div=
>Review Comments:=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>First, this fairly short d=
ocument has 6 authors. =C2=A0 As you all well know, the usual limit for dra=
fts progressing is 5.=C2=A0 This greatly simplifies the interactions during=
 AUTH48 and there is rarely more than a few active editors.=C2=A0 Please co=
nsider if you can reduce it and explain to me privately what justifications=
 might exist, if any, for not doing so.</div><div><br></div><div>Second, pl=
ease update the TBDs in the document for the various IANA allocated sub-TLV=
 values to be TBD1, TBD2, and TBD3 so it&#39;s easier to replace during IAN=
A and RFC Editor processing. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Third, Sec 3.7=
 defines bit 0 to have specific meaning but doesn&#39;t indicate that in th=
e IANA section.=C2=A0 Please update the IANA section to clearly indicate th=
e bit being requested (or update the bit to be a TBD4).=C2=A0 The term used=
 to refer to the bit also varies between 3.7 and 4.=C2=A0 Please pick one t=
erm and stick with it.=C2=A0 In 3.7, it is &quot;Router Functional Capabili=
ty=C2=A0Bit&quot; and in Sec 4, it=C2=A0is Router Informational Capability=
=C2=A0Bits.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Alia</div></div=
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Hi all,

draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-statement describes the problems cause=
d by the corruption of the LS Age field, and summarizes the requirements on=
 potential solutions. This draft received good comments during the presenta=
tion on the IETF meeting in B.A.

The authors would like to solicit further feedbacks from the mailing list, =
on both the problem statement and the solution requirements. Based on the f=
eedbacks, we will update the problem statement draft, and work together to =
build suitable solutions.

The URL of the draft is:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-statement-=
00

Comments & feedbacks are welcome.

Best regards,
Jie


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-pr=
oblem-statement describes the problems caused by the corruption of the LS A=
ge field, and summarizes the requirements on potential solutions. This draf=
t received good comments during the
 presentation on the IETF meeting in B.A.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The authors would like to solic=
it further feedbacks from the mailing list, on both the problem statement a=
nd the solution requirements. Based on the feedbacks, we will update the pr=
oblem statement draft, and work together
 to build suitable solutions. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The URL of the draft is:<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.o=
rg/html/draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-statement-00">https://tools.ie=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Comments &amp; feedbacks are we=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Jie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Jie -

The draft says (Section 2):

"Since cryptographic authentication is executed at the OSPF packet
   level, it can only protect the assembled LSU packet for one hop and
   does not provide any additional protection for the corruption of LS
   age field."

But as authentication is calculated at the OSPF packet level, any change to=
 the LS age field for an individual LSA contained within the OSPF packet (e=
.g. by some packet corruption in transmission) would cause authentication t=
o fail when the packet is received. So the statement you make is not correc=
t. I therefore am struggling to understand what problem you believe is not =
addressed by existing authentication techniques.

   Les



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Hi all,

draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-statement describes the problems cause=
d by the corruption of the LS Age field, and summarizes the requirements on=
 potential solutions. This draft received good comments during the presenta=
tion on the IETF meeting in B.A.

The authors would like to solicit further feedbacks from the mailing list, =
on both the problem statement and the solution requirements. Based on the f=
eedbacks, we will update the problem statement draft, and work together to =
build suitable solutions.

The URL of the draft is:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-statement-=
00

Comments & feedbacks are welcome.

Best regards,
Jie


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0;Since cryptographic authentication is executed at the OSPF packet<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp=
;&nbsp; level, it can only protect the assembled LSU packet for one hop and=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp=
;&nbsp; does not provide any additional protection for the corruption of LS=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp=
;&nbsp; age field.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">But a=
s authentication is calculated at the OSPF packet level, any change to the =
LS age field for an individual LSA contained within the OSPF packet (e.g. b=
y some packet corruption in transmission)
 would cause authentication to fail when the packet is received. So the sta=
tement you make is not correct. I therefore am struggling to understand wha=
t problem you believe is not addressed by existing authentication technique=
s.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">&nbsp=
;&nbsp; Les<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
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t;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahom=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dongjie (Jimmy)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 31, 2016 8:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ospf@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Zhangxudong (zhangxudong, VRP); lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OSPF] Solicit feedbacks on draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-pr=
oblem-statement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Hi all,<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">draft-don=
g-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-statement describes the problems caused by the =
corruption of the LS Age field, and summarizes the requirements on potentia=
l solutions. This draft received good
 comments during the presentation on the IETF meeting in B.A.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">The autho=
rs would like to solicit further feedbacks from the mailing list, on both t=
he problem statement and the solution requirements. Based on the feedbacks,=
 we will update the problem statement
 draft, and work together to build suitable solutions. <o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">The URL o=
f the draft is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><a href=
=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-statem=
ent-00">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-st=
atement-00</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Comments =
&amp; feedbacks are welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Best rega=
rds,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN">Jie<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:ZH-CN"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
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Hi Les,

Thanks for your comments.

OSPF packet level checksum and authentication can only protect the assemble=
d LSU packet one hop on the wire, while cannot detect any change to LSA mad=
e by the routers. This is because the OSPF packets are re-assembled on each=
 hop, which is slightly different from IS-IS. So the problem for OSPF is ma=
inly due to the problems inside the router, for example protocol implementa=
tions, system timers, or some hardware problem. Actually this problem has b=
een seen in several production networks.

We can improve the description in the draft to make this clear.

Best regards,
Jie

From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) [mailto:ginsberg@cisco.com]
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 1:30 PM
To: Dongjie (Jimmy); ospf@ietf.org
Cc: Zhangxudong (zhangxudong, VRP); lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com
Subject: RE: [OSPF] Solicit feedbacks on draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-probl=
em-statement

Jie -

The draft says (Section 2):

"Since cryptographic authentication is executed at the OSPF packet
   level, it can only protect the assembled LSU packet for one hop and
   does not provide any additional protection for the corruption of LS
   age field."

But as authentication is calculated at the OSPF packet level, any change to=
 the LS age field for an individual LSA contained within the OSPF packet (e=
.g. by some packet corruption in transmission) would cause authentication t=
o fail when the packet is received. So the statement you make is not correc=
t. I therefore am struggling to understand what problem you believe is not =
addressed by existing authentication techniques.

   Les



From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dongjie (Jimmy)
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 8:15 PM
To: ospf@ietf.org<mailto:ospf@ietf.org>
Cc: Zhangxudong (zhangxudong, VRP); lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com<mailto:lizh=
enqiang@chinamobile.com>
Subject: [OSPF] Solicit feedbacks on draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-s=
tatement

Hi all,

draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-statement describes the problems cause=
d by the corruption of the LS Age field, and summarizes the requirements on=
 potential solutions. This draft received good comments during the presenta=
tion on the IETF meeting in B.A.

The authors would like to solicit further feedbacks from the mailing list, =
on both the problem statement and the solution requirements. Based on the f=
eedbacks, we will update the problem statement draft, and work together to =
build suitable solutions.

The URL of the draft is:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-statement-=
00

Comments & feedbacks are welcome.

Best regards,
Jie


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi Les,=
 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks =
for your comments.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">OSPF pa=
cket level checksum and authentication can only protect the assembled LSU p=
acket one hop on the wire, while cannot detect any change to LSA made by th=
e routers. This is because the OSPF packets
 are re-assembled on each hop, which is slightly different from IS-IS. So t=
he problem for OSPF is mainly due to the problems inside the router, for ex=
ample protocol implementations, system timers, or some hardware problem. Ac=
tually this problem has been seen
 in several production networks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">We can =
improve the description in the draft to make this clear.<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Best re=
gards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:#1F497D">Jie<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Les Ginsberg=
 (ginsberg)
 [mailto:ginsberg@cisco.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 01, 2016 1:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dongjie (Jimmy); ospf@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Zhangxudong (zhangxudong, VRP); lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [OSPF] Solicit feedbacks on draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flus=
h-problem-statement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D">Jie &#8211;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D">The draft says (Section 2):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D">&#8220;Since cryptographic authentication is executed at the OSPF=
 packet<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; level, it can only protect the assembled LSU packet =
for one hop and<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; does not provide any additional protection for the c=
orruption of LS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; age field.&#8221;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D">But as authentication is calculated at the OSPF packet level, any=
 change to the LS age field for an individual LSA contained within the OSPF=
 packet (e.g. by some packet corruption
 in transmission) would cause authentication to fail when the packet is rec=
eived. So the statement you make is not correct. I therefore am struggling =
to understand what problem you believe is not addressed by existing authent=
ication techniques.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp; Les<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> OSPF [<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dongjie (Jimmy)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 31, 2016 8:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ospf@ietf.org">ospf@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Zhangxudong (zhangxudong, VRP); <a href=3D"mailto:lizhenqiang@ch=
inamobile.com">
lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [OSPF] Solicit feedbacks on draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-pr=
oblem-statement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"left" style=3D"text-align:left"><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-pr=
oblem-statement describes the problems caused by the corruption of the LS A=
ge field, and summarizes the requirements on potential solutions. This draf=
t received good comments during the
 presentation on the IETF meeting in B.A.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The authors would like to solic=
it further feedbacks from the mailing list, on both the problem statement a=
nd the solution requirements. Based on the feedbacks, we will update the pr=
oblem statement draft, and work together
 to build suitable solutions. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The URL of the draft is:<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.o=
rg/html/draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-statement-00">https://tools.ie=
tf.org/html/draft-dong-ospf-maxage-flush-problem-statement-00</a><o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Comments &amp; feedbacks are we=
lcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Jie<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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