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From: Satish K <satish.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 19:46:09 +0530
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Hi Daniele,

I am unable to play the recording of this meeting using the below link.  Is
this the correct link?

The recordings can be found at the following link
http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=3D
IETF98_CCAMP_FlexE&chapter=3Dchapter_1

Regards,
Satish.


On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 9:57 PM, Daniele Ceccarelli <
daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> thanks for the useful and productive meeting.
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99ve uploaded the slides in the CCAMP page as well as the minutes=
 (thanks
> to Andy for putting them together)
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/98/session/ccamp
>
>
>
> The recordings can be found at the following link
>
> http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=3D
> IETF98_CCAMP_FlexE&chapter=3Dchapter_1
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Daniele & Nic
>
>
>
> *From:* Daniele Ceccarelli
> *Sent:* marted=C3=AC 28 marzo 2017 12:10
> *To:* Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; pce@ietf.org;
> TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>; routing-discussion@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org;
> ccamp@ietf.org
> *Cc:* Ignas Bagdonas <ibagdona@gmail.com>; draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk@
> ietf.org; N.Leymann@telekom.de
> *Subject:* RE: [CCAMP] FlexE side meeting
>
>
>
> =E2=80=A6and the agenda
>
>
>
> >> The agenda will be:
>
> >>
>
> >> 1. FlexE background and origins: Haomian Zheng
>
> >> 2. FlexE Technology Deep Dive:   Iftekhar Hussain
>
> >> 3. FlexE in the IETF:            Mach Chen
>
> >> 4. Open Mic
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org>] *O=
n
> Behalf Of *Daniele Ceccarelli
> *Sent:* marted=C3=AC 28 marzo 2017 12:00
> *To:* pce@ietf.org; TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>; routing-discussion@ietf.org;
> mpls@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org
> *Cc:* Ignas Bagdonas <ibagdona@gmail.com>; draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk@
> ietf.org; N.Leymann@telekom.de
> *Subject:* [CCAMP] FlexE side meeting
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> a reminder for the FlexE side meeting and the link to Meetecho:
>
>
>
> When: Tuesday 18:45-20:15
>
> Room: Zurich B
>
> Remote participation - Meetecho: http://www.meetecho.com/
> ietf98/CCAMP-FlexE
>
>
>
> BR
> Daniele, Nic, Loa
>
> _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Daniele,<br><br></div>I am unable to play the reco=
rding of this meeting using the below link.=C2=A0 Is this the correct link?=
<br><div><br><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The recordings can=
 be found at the following link</span></p>
<span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/watch=
.jsp?recording=3DIETF98_CCAMP_FlexE&amp;chapter=3Dchapter_1" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/<wbr>Playout/watch.jsp?recording=3D<wbr>I=
ETF98_CCAMP_FlexE&amp;chapter=3D<wbr>chapter_1</a></span></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Regards,<br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra">Satish.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 9:57 PM, Daniele Ceccar=
elli <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.co=
m" target=3D"_blank">daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<=
br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72" lang=3D"IT">
<div class=3D"m_4384056659013942765WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi everyone,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">thanks for the useful and produ=
ctive meeting.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I=E2=80=99ve uploaded the slide=
s in the CCAMP page as well as the minutes (thanks to Andy for putting them=
 together)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/meeting/98/session/ccamp" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ie=
tf.org/<wbr>meeting/98/session/ccamp</a>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The recordings can be found at =
the following link<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"http://recs.conf.mee=
techo.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=3DIETF98_CCAMP_FlexE&amp;chapter=3Dch=
apter_1" target=3D"_blank">http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/<wbr>Playout/watch=
.jsp?recording=3D<wbr>IETF98_CCAMP_FlexE&amp;chapter=3D<wbr>chapter_1</a>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Daniele &amp; Nic<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
>From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Daniele Ceccarelli
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> marted=C3=AC 28 marzo 2017 12:10<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@eric=
sson.com" target=3D"_blank">daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.<wbr>com</a>&gt;; <=
a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce@ietf.org</a>; TEAS WG =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:teas@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">teas@ietf.org</a>&gt=
;; <a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">routing=
-discussion@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank=
">mpls@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">cc=
amp@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ignas Bagdonas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ibagdona@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">ibagdona@gmail.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:draft-izh-ccamp-f=
lexe-fwk@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk@<wbr>ietf.or=
g</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:N.Leymann@telekom.de" target=3D"_blank">N.Leymann@=
telekom.de</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] FlexE side meeting<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"m_4384056659013942765MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US">=E2=80=A6and the agenda<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_4384056659013942765MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_4384056659013942765MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US">&gt;&gt; The agenda will be:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_4384056659013942765MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US">&gt;&gt;<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_4384056659013942765MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US">&gt;&gt; 1. FlexE background and origins: Haomian Zhe=
ng<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_4384056659013942765MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US">&gt;&gt; 2. FlexE Technology Deep Dive:=C2=A0=C2=A0 I=
ftekhar Hussain<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_4384056659013942765MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"=
><span lang=3D"EN-US">&gt;&gt; 3. FlexE in the IETF:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mach Chen<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"m_4384056659013942765MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"=
>&gt;&gt; 4. Open Mic<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
>From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounc=
es@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a><wbr>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> marted=C3=AC 28 marzo 2017 12:00<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce@ietf.org</=
a>; TEAS WG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:teas@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">teas@iet=
f.org</a>&gt;;
<a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">routing-di=
scussion@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">
mpls@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">ccam=
p@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ignas Bagdonas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ibagdona@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">ibagdona@gmail.com</a>&gt;;
<a href=3D"mailto:draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">dra=
ft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk@<wbr>ietf.org</a>;
<a href=3D"mailto:N.Leymann@telekom.de" target=3D"_blank">N.Leymann@telekom=
.de</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] FlexE side meeting<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt">Hi everyone,<u></u><u><=
/u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">a =
reminder for the FlexE side meeting and the link to Meetecho:<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Wh=
en: Tuesday 18:45-20:15<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Ro=
om: Zurich B<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Re=
mote participation - Meetecho:
<a href=3D"http://www.meetecho.com/ietf98/CCAMP-FlexE" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.meetecho.com/<wbr>ietf98/CCAMP-FlexE</a>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">BR=
<br>
Daniele, Nic, Loa<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>

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Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft.
The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related
drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes
on special request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to
the Routing ADs. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please
see =E2=80=8Bhttp://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it
would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last
Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through
discussion or by updating the draft.


Document: draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp-09.txt
Reviewer: Victoria Pritchard
Review Date: 06 April 2017
IETF LC End Date:
Intended Status: Standards Track


Summary:
I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be
resolved before publication.


Comments:
Although I was not very familiar with PCEP, I found the draft for the most
part easy to understand, but did need to look up some things in the
referenced documents and was unclear on a couple of small points. I have
some suggestions that may help improve the draft for other readers, and I
have some queries which may require clarification in the document. However,
as most readers will be more familiar with the subject, perhaps not all
comments will require any action.


Major Issues:
No major issues found.


Minor Issues and Nits:

Section 1, 1st paragraph
Path Control Element / Path Computation Element ?

Section 1, 2nd paragraph
Stateful pce / Stateful PCE
Reference link [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce] points to section 3.1, not the
references section.
The 2nd sentence was hard to read, could be split into two sentences.

Section 2
Last paragraph: Routing Backus-Naur Format / Routing Backus-Naur Form, to
match the RFC title.

Section 3.1
At the end of the 1st paragraph, "possible agile software-driven network
operation" is then repeated in the next paragraph as "A possible use case
is a software-driven network"

Section 3.2
The acronyms SRP, PLSP and ERO are used a few times in this section. It may
well be OK to assume most readers will be familiar with these, but would be
good to have the expansion here too.

Section 3.2, 3rd paragraph
SRP-id-number / SRP-ID-number, for consistency
The sentence beginning "The PCE MAY update" could be moved to a new
paragraph, to separate it from the text regarding instantiation.

Section 3.2, last paragraph
Suggest to replace the "and" with a comma in this sentence:
"During State Synchronization, a PCC
   reports the state of its LSPs to the PCE using PCRpt messages and
   setting the SYNC flag in the LSP Object. "
"include the Create Flag" / "set the Create Flag" - also the create flag
has not yet been mentioned.
Actually I think this overview could be much briefer and simpler. There is
a lot of detail about objects, flags and options, which is explained in
later sections but complicates this overview. I think it might be good to
also summarise here what the extension adds in terms of messages and flags,
to clearly indicate what's new compared to the referenced documents.

Section 4
After the first sentence, I would rephrase: "First, the Open message must
include the Stateful PCE Capability TLV, defined in []." Then continue to
the sentence beginning "A new flag is introduced in this TLV, ...".

Section 4.1
In the flag bit description, "that the PCE may attempt to instantiate LSPs"
could be changed to "that the PCE supports instantiating LSPs".
Also rather than "in order to support", use "in order to enable".
Not sure this section is necessary in this form with Figure 1. For example,
I think the sync-optimizations draft specifies flags in a nice way (Section
7 of that draft), suggesting the bit to use without a diagram. The
description here in section 4.1 could be rolled into the main body of
Section 4. Also, is there any need to mention the U flag or the S flag in
this draft?

I noticed a mix and match between terminology of "STATEFUL-PCE-CAPABILITY
TLV" vs "Stateful PCE Capability" TLV - could be made consistent, I'd
suggest "Stateful PCE Capability TLV" throughout for readability.
Also the same applies to "Path Computation LSP Initiate Message", "Path
Computation LSP Initiate Request", "LSP Initiate Message", "LSP Initiate
Request", "LSP initiation request". Would be nice to see this consistent
throughout.

Section 5.1
The 1st paragraph could be simplified by removing text about other objects
and missing objects, and moving the final two sentences into sections 5.3
and 5.4.
The 2nd paragraph states "The format ... for LSP instantiation", but this
looks like it applies to deletion too. Suggest to remove "for LSP
instantiation".
On first read (although most readers will be familiar already) I would have
liked to see some mention of what the Common Header is, maybe even just a
reference to its definition in RFC5440.

Section 5, final paragraph
I would suggest you dont need the 3rd sentence at all, as correlation is
already mentioned in the 1st sentence in this paragraph.
Also, is SRP-ID-number incremented when an operation is requested *from*
the PCE? Or *by* the PCE, or in either direction? Is it clearer to say "The
PCE increments the current PCEP session's SRP-ID-number before including it
in the PCInitiate message" (assuming any other usage is unchanged from the
Stateful PCE draft)?

Section 5.2
This section could be condensed in a similar way as I mentioned before
regarding the I flag in the Capability TLV in Section 4.1. The text could
be included at the bottom of section 5.1, and there is no need to draw the
SRP object. Also no need for the reference as it's already in section 5.1.
Perhaps also state the alternative case, that if the flag is set to 0, it
indicates an instantiation request.

Section 5.3, 1st paragraph
"LSP instantiation is done by" / "The LSP is instantiated by".
"an PCInitiate" / "a PCInitiate"
Suggest removing the sentence beginning "The LSP is set up"

Section 5.3 in general
I suggest reorganising this section:
-First discuss message contents that should be included for instantiation,
i.e., objects mentioned in the format section above, and their contents.
-Then once you have defined what the PCInitiate should look like, in new
paragraph(s) talk through checking validity of the PCInitiate (non-zero
PLSP-ID and missing ERO or SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME) and discuss the error
messages.
-Then use the text describing LSP setup based on the info included.
-Then discuss the PCRpt. You currently mention PCRpt in a couple of places
in this section and it would be easier to read if it was in one place. For
clarity, also state that in the PCRpt, both the Delegate and Create flags
are in the LSP object.

Section 5.3, 8th paragraph. "The PCEP-ERROR object SHOULD include the RSVP
   Error Spec TLV (if an ERROR SPEC was returned to the PCC by a
   downstream node)."
Is that already covered by the 1st sentence in this paragraph, "relay to
the PCE errors it encounters"? Could re-phrase to "If an RSVP Error Spec
TLV was returned to the PCC by a downstream node, it should be included in
the PCEP-ERROR object in the PCErr message". Also would prefer not to use 2
terms "RSVP Error Spec TLV" and "ERROR SPEC".
suggeseted / suggested
Is the sentence "After the LSP is set up, errors in RSVP..." necessary? By
that I mean does that behaviour differ from normal, is it particular to
this extension?

Section 5.3, paragraphs 8 and 9
Would you want to inform the PCE of any limits during the capability
exchange rather than sending an error later and ignoring further PCE
requests?

Section 5.3.1
The create flag could be described earlier. As mentioned above, Section 4
would be a good place to detail all the bits newly defined in this draft,
the new message, the new flags. Again, I dont think you need to draw a
diagram, just describe the flag added and its position within the LSP
Object.

Section 5.3.2 could be rolled into the description of the create flag since
the two would be used together. Also, back in Section 3 it said you SHOULD
include the SPEAKER-IDENTITY-ID TLV, whereas 5.3.2 instead uses MAY.
SPEAKER-IDENTITY-ID is not actually defined in the sync-optimizations draft
- assume you mean SPEAKER-ENTITY-ID? Also just to make it clear, you are
re-using that TLV but this time within the LSP Object, and to give the
PCE's identity, rather than in the OPEN object to give the speaker's
identity?
Also in the final sentence: "the TLV MUST be ignored the and the PCE MUST
send a PCErr" - there's an extra "the" in the middle, and being very fussy,
the TLV is not really ignored if you send an error message. Also if you do
send the error message, is the rest of the PCRpt message ignored?

Section 5.4 may benefit from splitting into multiple paragraphs, one for
each error type, plus another for the final part beginning at "Following
the removal".

Section 6, 1st paragraph
"are automatically delegated": suggest this reads "MUST be delegated".
Automatically might imply you dont need to do anything to make this happen.
If the PCE returns a delegation to the PCC, would the PCC then end up
sending that PCE a PCRpt with the delegation bit set to zero? The first
paragraph states that this is an error, but in that case, would it be?

As "Redelegation Timeout Interval" and "State Timeout Interval" are both
terms defined in the Stateful PCE draft, I would try to use the exact same
terminology and same capitalisation found there throughout.

Section 6, 3rd paragraph.
Where it says "In case of PCEP session failure", does that mean failure at
any point in time, or just a failure after the PCE has returned delegation
in order to transfer the LSP to a different PCE? Also, is the LSP
considered an orphan as soon as the initiating PCE returns delegation to
the PCC? Or only if a PCEP session fails? Having these two bits of
information in two different paragraphs makes it seem like they are
separate but I would think they go together? If I have interpreted this
correctly, I would suggest the following text:
   A PCE MAY return a delegation to the PCC to allow for LSP transfer
between
   PCEs. The PCC will also regain control over a PCE-initiated LSP if the
PCEP session
   fails and the Redelegation Timeout Interval timer expires.  In both
cases, the
   LSP is considered an "orphan" and the PCC MUST trigger the State Timeout
Interval
   timer for that LSP ([I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce]).
But, what is not clear to me, is what is happening at this point to try to
delegate to another PCE? From looking at the Stateful PCE draft, I believe
the PCC would send a report to 1/any(?) PCE it was connected to, setting
the delegate flag to 1 to try to get that PCE to accept delegation. If I
interpreted that correctly, i.e. the PCC actively tries to switch
delegation to another PCE, it might be worth stating that here.
Assuming a reply comes in from that PCE, with the delegate flag set, within
the state timeout interval, all is good. However, I was slightly concerned
by the statement from the Stateful PCE draft that says:
"If the PCE accepts the LSP Delegation,
   it MUST set the Delegate flag to 1 when it sends an LSP Update
   Request for the delegated LSP (note that this may occur at a later
   time)."
I dont know how far in the future "a later time" could be, but if the State
Timeout Interval expires at the PCC first, wont the LSP get flushed?
The text also says that to obtain control, a PCE can send a PCInitiate. So
as an alternative to my initial interpretation, does that mean the PCC
could advertise the LSP with delegate flag set to zero, and wait for a PCE
to take control by sending a PCInitiate as described?
This also makes me wonder how/when the initial PCE would decide to give up
control? Is that in scope for this draft?

Section 6, final paragraph
The explanation about the timeout sounds like it applies to Stateful PCE in
general, and therefore may not be necessary to explain in this draft? Also,
on PCE crash (bearing in mind paragraph 3 above), does the Redelegation
Timeout Interval occur first, and then the State Timeout Interval?

Section 8.1
Meaning: Initiate. Being really picky, I would like this to match the full
term used in this draft "Path Computation LSP Initiate Request" (or
whatever term you settle on - see comment above between Section 4.1 and
5.1). This would then match RFC5440's way of doing it for PCReq.


Kind regards,
Victoria

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>I have been selected =
as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The Routing Directorate=
 seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as they pass through=
 IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purp=
ose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more inf=
ormation about the Routing Directorate, please see =E2=80=8B<a href=3D"http=
://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir">http://trac.tools.ietf.or=
g/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir</a></div><div><br></div><div>Although these com=
ments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would be helpful if =
you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call comments that y=
ou receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by updating th=
e draft.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Document: draft-ietf-pce-p=
ce-initiated-lsp-09.txt=C2=A0</div><div>Reviewer: Victoria Pritchard</div><=
div>Review Date: 06 April 2017</div><div>IETF LC End Date: =C2=A0</div><div=
>Intended Status: Standards Track</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>S=
ummary:=C2=A0</div><div>I have some minor concerns about this document that=
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r></div><div>Comments:</div><div>Although I was not very familiar with PCEP=
, I found the draft for the most part easy to understand, but did need to l=
ook up some things in the referenced documents and was unclear on a couple =
of small points. I have some suggestions that may help improve the draft fo=
r other readers, and I have some queries which may require clarification in=
 the document. However, as most readers will be more familiar with the subj=
ect, perhaps not all comments will require any action.</div><div><br></div>=
<div><br></div><div>Major Issues:</div><div>No major issues found.</div><di=
v><br></div><div><br></div><div>Minor Issues and Nits:</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Section 1, 1st paragraph</div><div>Path Control Element / Path Computa=
tion Element ?</div><div><br></div><div>Section 1, 2nd paragraph</div><div>=
Stateful pce / Stateful PCE</div><div>Reference link [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful=
-pce] points to section 3.1, not the references section.=C2=A0</div><div>Th=
e 2nd sentence was hard to read, could be split into two sentences.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Section 2</div><div>Last paragraph: Routing Backus-Naur F=
ormat / Routing Backus-Naur Form, to match the RFC title.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Section 3.1</div><div>At the end of the 1st paragraph, &quot;possib=
le agile software-driven network operation&quot; is then repeated in the ne=
xt paragraph as &quot;A possible use case is a software-driven network&quot=
;</div><div><br></div><div>Section 3.2</div><div>The acronyms SRP, PLSP and=
 ERO are used a few times in this section. It may well be OK to assume most=
 readers will be familiar with these, but would be good to have the expansi=
on here too.</div><div><br></div><div>Section 3.2, 3rd paragraph</div><div>=
SRP-id-number / SRP-ID-number, for consistency</div><div>The sentence begin=
ning &quot;The PCE MAY update&quot; could be moved to a new paragraph, to s=
eparate it from the text regarding instantiation.</div><div><br></div><div>=
Section 3.2, last paragraph</div><div>Suggest to replace the &quot;and&quot=
; with a comma in this sentence:=C2=A0</div><div>&quot;During State Synchro=
nization, a PCC</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0reports the state of its LSPs to the=
 PCE using PCRpt messages and</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0setting the SYNC flag =
in the LSP Object. &quot;</div><div>&quot;include the Create Flag&quot; / &=
quot;set the Create Flag&quot; - also the create flag has not yet been ment=
ioned.</div><div>Actually I think this overview could be much briefer and s=
impler. There is a lot of detail about objects, flags and options, which is=
 explained in later sections but complicates this overview. I think it migh=
t be good to also summarise here what the extension adds in terms of messag=
es and flags, to clearly indicate what&#39;s new compared to the referenced=
 documents.</div><div><br></div><div>Section 4</div><div>After the first se=
ntence, I would rephrase: &quot;First, the Open message must include the St=
ateful PCE Capability TLV, defined in [].&quot; Then continue to the senten=
ce beginning &quot;A new flag is introduced in this TLV, ...&quot;.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Section 4.1=C2=A0</div><div>In the flag bit description, =
&quot;that the PCE may attempt to instantiate LSPs&quot; could be changed t=
o &quot;that the PCE supports instantiating LSPs&quot;.=C2=A0</div><div>Als=
o rather than &quot;in order to support&quot;, use &quot;in order to enable=
&quot;.</div><div>Not sure this section is necessary in this form with Figu=
re 1. For example, I think the sync-optimizations draft specifies flags in =
a nice way (Section 7 of that draft), suggesting the bit to use without a d=
iagram. The description here in section 4.1 could be rolled into the main b=
ody of Section 4. Also, is there any need to mention the U flag or the S fl=
ag in this draft?</div><div><br></div><div>I noticed a mix and match betwee=
n terminology of &quot;STATEFUL-PCE-CAPABILITY TLV&quot; vs &quot;Stateful =
PCE Capability&quot; TLV - could be made consistent, I&#39;d suggest &quot;=
Stateful PCE Capability TLV&quot; throughout for readability.</div><div>Als=
o the same applies to &quot;Path Computation LSP Initiate Message&quot;, &q=
uot;Path Computation LSP Initiate Request&quot;, &quot;LSP Initiate Message=
&quot;, &quot;LSP Initiate Request&quot;, &quot;LSP initiation request&quot=
;. Would be nice to see this consistent throughout.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Section 5.1</div><div>The 1st paragraph could be simplified by removing t=
ext about other objects and missing objects, and moving the final two sente=
nces into sections 5.3 and 5.4.</div><div>The 2nd paragraph states &quot;Th=
e format ... for LSP instantiation&quot;, but this looks like it applies to=
 deletion too. Suggest to remove &quot;for LSP instantiation&quot;.</div><d=
iv>On first read (although most readers will be familiar already) I would h=
ave liked to see some mention of what the Common Header is, maybe even just=
 a reference to its definition in RFC5440.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>S=
ection 5, final paragraph=C2=A0</div><div>I would suggest you dont need the=
 3rd sentence at all, as correlation is already mentioned in the 1st senten=
ce in this paragraph.</div><div>Also, is SRP-ID-number incremented when an =
operation is requested *from* the PCE? Or *by* the PCE, or in either direct=
ion? Is it clearer to say &quot;The PCE increments the current PCEP session=
&#39;s SRP-ID-number before including it in the PCInitiate message&quot; (a=
ssuming any other usage is unchanged from the Stateful PCE draft)?=C2=A0</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Section 5.2=C2=A0</div><div>This section could be co=
ndensed in a similar way as I mentioned before regarding the I flag in the =
Capability TLV in Section 4.1. The text could be included at the bottom of =
section 5.1, and there is no need to draw the SRP object. Also no need for =
the reference as it&#39;s already in section 5.1.=C2=A0</div><div>Perhaps a=
lso state the alternative case, that if the flag is set to 0, it indicates =
an instantiation request.</div><div><br></div><div>Section 5.3, 1st paragra=
ph=C2=A0</div><div>&quot;LSP instantiation is done by&quot; / &quot;The LSP=
 is instantiated by&quot;.=C2=A0</div><div>&quot;an PCInitiate&quot; / &quo=
t;a PCInitiate&quot;</div><div>Suggest removing the sentence beginning &quo=
t;The LSP is set up&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>Section 5.3 in general</=
div><div>I suggest reorganising this section:</div><div>-First discuss mess=
age contents that should be included for instantiation, i.e., objects menti=
oned in the format section above, and their contents.</div><div>-Then once =
you have defined what the PCInitiate should look like, in new paragraph(s) =
talk through checking validity of the PCInitiate (non-zero PLSP-ID and miss=
ing ERO or SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME) and discuss the error messages.</div><div>-T=
hen use the text describing LSP setup based on the info included.</div><div=
>-Then discuss the PCRpt. You currently mention PCRpt in a couple of places=
 in this section and it would be easier to read if it was in one place. For=
 clarity, also state that in the PCRpt, both the Delegate and Create flags =
are in the LSP object.</div><div><br></div><div>Section 5.3, 8th paragraph.=
 &quot;The PCEP-ERROR object SHOULD include the RSVP</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0Error Spec TLV (if an ERROR SPEC was returned to the PCC by a</div><div>=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0downstream node).&quot;</div><div>Is that already covered by t=
he 1st sentence in this paragraph, &quot;relay to the PCE errors it encount=
ers&quot;? Could re-phrase to &quot;If an RSVP Error Spec TLV was returned =
to the PCC by a downstream node, it should be included in the PCEP-ERROR ob=
ject in the PCErr message&quot;. Also would prefer not to use 2 terms &quot=
;RSVP Error Spec TLV&quot; and &quot;ERROR SPEC&quot;.</div><div>suggeseted=
 / suggested</div><div>Is the sentence &quot;After the LSP is set up, error=
s in RSVP...&quot; necessary? By that I mean does that behaviour differ fro=
m normal, is it particular to this extension?</div><div><br></div><div>Sect=
ion 5.3, paragraphs 8 and 9</div><div>Would you want to inform the PCE of a=
ny limits during the capability exchange rather than sending an error later=
 and ignoring further PCE requests?</div><div><br></div><div>Section 5.3.1<=
/div><div>The create flag could be described earlier. As mentioned above, S=
ection 4 would be a good place to detail all the bits newly defined in this=
 draft, the new message, the new flags. Again, I dont think you need to dra=
w a diagram, just describe the flag added and its position within the LSP O=
bject.</div><div><br></div><div>Section 5.3.2 could be rolled into the desc=
ription of the create flag since the two would be used together. Also, back=
 in Section 3 it said you SHOULD include the SPEAKER-IDENTITY-ID TLV, where=
as 5.3.2 instead uses MAY. SPEAKER-IDENTITY-ID is not actually defined in t=
he sync-optimizations draft - assume you mean SPEAKER-ENTITY-ID? Also just =
to make it clear, you are re-using that TLV but this time within the LSP Ob=
ject, and to give the PCE&#39;s identity, rather than in the OPEN object to=
 give the speaker&#39;s identity?</div><div>Also in the final sentence: &qu=
ot;the TLV MUST be ignored the and the PCE MUST send a PCErr&quot; - there&=
#39;s an extra &quot;the&quot; in the middle, and being very fussy, the TLV=
 is not really ignored if you send an error message. Also if you do send th=
e error message, is the rest of the PCRpt message ignored?</div><div><br></=
div><div>Section 5.4 may benefit from splitting into multiple paragraphs, o=
ne for each error type, plus another for the final part beginning at &quot;=
Following the removal&quot;.</div><div><br></div><div>Section 6, 1st paragr=
aph</div><div>&quot;are automatically delegated&quot;: suggest this reads &=
quot;MUST be delegated&quot;. Automatically might imply you dont need to do=
 anything to make this happen.</div><div>If the PCE returns a delegation to=
 the PCC, would the PCC then end up sending that PCE a PCRpt with the deleg=
ation bit set to zero? The first paragraph states that this is an error, bu=
t in that case, would it be?</div><div><br></div><div>As &quot;Redelegation=
 Timeout Interval&quot; and &quot;State Timeout Interval&quot; are both ter=
ms defined in the Stateful PCE draft, I would try to use the exact same ter=
minology and same capitalisation found there throughout.=C2=A0</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Section 6, 3rd paragraph.</div><div>Where it says &quot;In cas=
e of PCEP session failure&quot;, does that mean failure at any point in tim=
e, or just a failure after the PCE has returned delegation in order to tran=
sfer the LSP to a different PCE? Also, is the LSP considered an orphan as s=
oon as the initiating PCE returns delegation to the PCC? Or only if a PCEP =
session fails? Having these two bits of information in two different paragr=
aphs makes it seem like they are separate but I would think they go togethe=
r? If I have interpreted this correctly, I would suggest the following text=
:</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0A PCE MAY return a delegation to the PCC to allow =
for LSP transfer between</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0PCEs. The PCC will also reg=
ain control over a PCE-initiated LSP if the PCEP session</div><div>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0fails and the Redelegation Timeout Interval timer expires.=C2=A0 In b=
oth cases, the</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0LSP is considered an &quot;orphan&quo=
t; and the PCC MUST trigger the State Timeout Interval=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0timer for that LSP ([I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce]).=C2=A0</div><div=
>But, what is not clear to me, is what is happening at this point to try to=
 delegate to another PCE? From looking at the Stateful PCE draft, I believe=
 the PCC would send a report to 1/any(?) PCE it was connected to, setting t=
he delegate flag to 1 to try to get that PCE to accept delegation. If I int=
erpreted that correctly, i.e. the PCC actively tries to switch delegation t=
o another PCE, it might be worth stating that here.</div><div>Assuming a re=
ply comes in from that PCE, with the delegate flag set, within the state ti=
meout interval, all is good. However, I was slightly concerned by the state=
ment from the Stateful PCE draft that says:</div><div>&quot;If the PCE acce=
pts the LSP Delegation,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0it MUST set the Delegate fla=
g to 1 when it sends an LSP Update</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Request for the d=
elegated LSP (note that this may occur at a later</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0ti=
me).&quot;=C2=A0</div><div>I dont know how far in the future &quot;a later =
time&quot; could be, but if the State Timeout Interval expires at the PCC f=
irst, wont the LSP get flushed?</div><div>The text also says that to obtain=
 control, a PCE can send a PCInitiate. So as an alternative to my initial i=
nterpretation, does that mean the PCC could advertise the LSP with delegate=
 flag set to zero, and wait for a PCE to take control by sending a PCInitia=
te as described?</div><div>This also makes me wonder how/when the initial P=
CE would decide to give up control? Is that in scope for this draft?</div><=
div><br></div><div>Section 6, final paragraph</div><div>The explanation abo=
ut the timeout sounds like it applies to Stateful PCE in general, and there=
fore may not be necessary to explain in this draft? Also, on PCE crash (bea=
ring in mind paragraph 3 above), does the Redelegation Timeout Interval occ=
ur first, and then the State Timeout Interval?</div><div><br></div><div>Sec=
tion 8.1</div><div>Meaning: Initiate. Being really picky, I would like this=
 to match the full term used in this draft &quot;Path Computation LSP Initi=
ate Request&quot; (or whatever term you settle on - see comment above betwe=
en Section 4.1 and 5.1). This would then match RFC5440&#39;s way of doing i=
t for PCReq.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><di=
v>Victoria</div></div>

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Hi Vicky,

Thank you for your review and this helpful feedback. We'll make sure
they're addressed in the next revision.

Cheers,

Julien


Apr. 06, 2017 - pritchardv0@gmail.com:
> Hello,
>
> I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this
> draft. The Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or
> routing-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG
> review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the review is
> to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. For more information about
> the Routing Directorate, please see
> â€‹http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir
>
> Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs,
> it would be helpful if you could consider them along with any other
> IETF Last Call comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them
> through discussion or by updating the draft.
>
>
> Document: draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp-09.txt 
> Reviewer: Victoria Pritchard
> Review Date: 06 April 2017
> IETF LC End Date:  
> Intended Status: Standards Track
>
>
> Summary: 
> I have some minor concerns about this document that I think should be
> resolved before publication.
>
>
> Comments:
> Although I was not very familiar with PCEP, I found the draft for the
> most part easy to understand, but did need to look up some things in
> the referenced documents and was unclear on a couple of small points.
> I have some suggestions that may help improve the draft for other
> readers, and I have some queries which may require clarification in
> the document. However, as most readers will be more familiar with the
> subject, perhaps not all comments will require any action.
>
>
> Major Issues:
> No major issues found.
>
>
> Minor Issues and Nits:
>
> Section 1, 1st paragraph
> Path Control Element / Path Computation Element ?
>
> Section 1, 2nd paragraph
> Stateful pce / Stateful PCE
> Reference link [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce] points to section 3.1, not
> the references section. 
> The 2nd sentence was hard to read, could be split into two sentences.
>
> Section 2
> Last paragraph: Routing Backus-Naur Format / Routing Backus-Naur Form,
> to match the RFC title.
>
> Section 3.1
> At the end of the 1st paragraph, "possible agile software-driven
> network operation" is then repeated in the next paragraph as "A
> possible use case is a software-driven network"
>
> Section 3.2
> The acronyms SRP, PLSP and ERO are used a few times in this section.
> It may well be OK to assume most readers will be familiar with these,
> but would be good to have the expansion here too.
>
> Section 3.2, 3rd paragraph
> SRP-id-number / SRP-ID-number, for consistency
> The sentence beginning "The PCE MAY update" could be moved to a new
> paragraph, to separate it from the text regarding instantiation.
>
> Section 3.2, last paragraph
> Suggest to replace the "and" with a comma in this sentence: 
> "During State Synchronization, a PCC
>    reports the state of its LSPs to the PCE using PCRpt messages and
>    setting the SYNC flag in the LSP Object. "
> "include the Create Flag" / "set the Create Flag" - also the create
> flag has not yet been mentioned.
> Actually I think this overview could be much briefer and simpler.
> There is a lot of detail about objects, flags and options, which is
> explained in later sections but complicates this overview. I think it
> might be good to also summarise here what the extension adds in terms
> of messages and flags, to clearly indicate what's new compared to the
> referenced documents.
>
> Section 4
> After the first sentence, I would rephrase: "First, the Open message
> must include the Stateful PCE Capability TLV, defined in []." Then
> continue to the sentence beginning "A new flag is introduced in this
> TLV, ...".
>
> Section 4.1 
> In the flag bit description, "that the PCE may attempt to instantiate
> LSPs" could be changed to "that the PCE supports instantiating LSPs". 
> Also rather than "in order to support", use "in order to enable".
> Not sure this section is necessary in this form with Figure 1. For
> example, I think the sync-optimizations draft specifies flags in a
> nice way (Section 7 of that draft), suggesting the bit to use without
> a diagram. The description here in section 4.1 could be rolled into
> the main body of Section 4. Also, is there any need to mention the U
> flag or the S flag in this draft?
>
> I noticed a mix and match between terminology of
> "STATEFUL-PCE-CAPABILITY TLV" vs "Stateful PCE Capability" TLV - could
> be made consistent, I'd suggest "Stateful PCE Capability TLV"
> throughout for readability.
> Also the same applies to "Path Computation LSP Initiate Message",
> "Path Computation LSP Initiate Request", "LSP Initiate Message", "LSP
> Initiate Request", "LSP initiation request". Would be nice to see this
> consistent throughout.
>
> Section 5.1
> The 1st paragraph could be simplified by removing text about other
> objects and missing objects, and moving the final two sentences into
> sections 5.3 and 5.4.
> The 2nd paragraph states "The format ... for LSP instantiation", but
> this looks like it applies to deletion too. Suggest to remove "for LSP
> instantiation".
> On first read (although most readers will be familiar already) I would
> have liked to see some mention of what the Common Header is, maybe
> even just a reference to its definition in RFC5440. 
>
> Section 5, final paragraph 
> I would suggest you dont need the 3rd sentence at all, as correlation
> is already mentioned in the 1st sentence in this paragraph.
> Also, is SRP-ID-number incremented when an operation is requested
> *from* the PCE? Or *by* the PCE, or in either direction? Is it clearer
> to say "The PCE increments the current PCEP session's SRP-ID-number
> before including it in the PCInitiate message" (assuming any other
> usage is unchanged from the Stateful PCE draft)? 
>
> Section 5.2 
> This section could be condensed in a similar way as I mentioned before
> regarding the I flag in the Capability TLV in Section 4.1. The text
> could be included at the bottom of section 5.1, and there is no need
> to draw the SRP object. Also no need for the reference as it's already
> in section 5.1. 
> Perhaps also state the alternative case, that if the flag is set to 0,
> it indicates an instantiation request.
>
> Section 5.3, 1st paragraph 
> "LSP instantiation is done by" / "The LSP is instantiated by". 
> "an PCInitiate" / "a PCInitiate"
> Suggest removing the sentence beginning "The LSP is set up"
>
> Section 5.3 in general
> I suggest reorganising this section:
> -First discuss message contents that should be included for
> instantiation, i.e., objects mentioned in the format section above,
> and their contents.
> -Then once you have defined what the PCInitiate should look like, in
> new paragraph(s) talk through checking validity of the PCInitiate
> (non-zero PLSP-ID and missing ERO or SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME) and discuss
> the error messages.
> -Then use the text describing LSP setup based on the info included.
> -Then discuss the PCRpt. You currently mention PCRpt in a couple of
> places in this section and it would be easier to read if it was in one
> place. For clarity, also state that in the PCRpt, both the Delegate
> and Create flags are in the LSP object.
>
> Section 5.3, 8th paragraph. "The PCEP-ERROR object SHOULD include the RSVP
>    Error Spec TLV (if an ERROR SPEC was returned to the PCC by a
>    downstream node)."
> Is that already covered by the 1st sentence in this paragraph, "relay
> to the PCE errors it encounters"? Could re-phrase to "If an RSVP Error
> Spec TLV was returned to the PCC by a downstream node, it should be
> included in the PCEP-ERROR object in the PCErr message". Also would
> prefer not to use 2 terms "RSVP Error Spec TLV" and "ERROR SPEC".
> suggeseted / suggested
> Is the sentence "After the LSP is set up, errors in RSVP..."
> necessary? By that I mean does that behaviour differ from normal, is
> it particular to this extension?
>
> Section 5.3, paragraphs 8 and 9
> Would you want to inform the PCE of any limits during the capability
> exchange rather than sending an error later and ignoring further PCE
> requests?
>
> Section 5.3.1
> The create flag could be described earlier. As mentioned above,
> Section 4 would be a good place to detail all the bits newly defined
> in this draft, the new message, the new flags. Again, I dont think you
> need to draw a diagram, just describe the flag added and its position
> within the LSP Object.
>
> Section 5.3.2 could be rolled into the description of the create flag
> since the two would be used together. Also, back in Section 3 it said
> you SHOULD include the SPEAKER-IDENTITY-ID TLV, whereas 5.3.2 instead
> uses MAY. SPEAKER-IDENTITY-ID is not actually defined in the
> sync-optimizations draft - assume you mean SPEAKER-ENTITY-ID? Also
> just to make it clear, you are re-using that TLV but this time within
> the LSP Object, and to give the PCE's identity, rather than in the
> OPEN object to give the speaker's identity?
> Also in the final sentence: "the TLV MUST be ignored the and the PCE
> MUST send a PCErr" - there's an extra "the" in the middle, and being
> very fussy, the TLV is not really ignored if you send an error
> message. Also if you do send the error message, is the rest of the
> PCRpt message ignored?
>
> Section 5.4 may benefit from splitting into multiple paragraphs, one
> for each error type, plus another for the final part beginning at
> "Following the removal".
>
> Section 6, 1st paragraph
> "are automatically delegated": suggest this reads "MUST be delegated".
> Automatically might imply you dont need to do anything to make this
> happen.
> If the PCE returns a delegation to the PCC, would the PCC then end up
> sending that PCE a PCRpt with the delegation bit set to zero? The
> first paragraph states that this is an error, but in that case, would
> it be?
>
> As "Redelegation Timeout Interval" and "State Timeout Interval" are
> both terms defined in the Stateful PCE draft, I would try to use the
> exact same terminology and same capitalisation found there throughout. 
>
> Section 6, 3rd paragraph.
> Where it says "In case of PCEP session failure", does that mean
> failure at any point in time, or just a failure after the PCE has
> returned delegation in order to transfer the LSP to a different PCE?
> Also, is the LSP considered an orphan as soon as the initiating PCE
> returns delegation to the PCC? Or only if a PCEP session fails? Having
> these two bits of information in two different paragraphs makes it
> seem like they are separate but I would think they go together? If I
> have interpreted this correctly, I would suggest the following text:
>    A PCE MAY return a delegation to the PCC to allow for LSP transfer
> between
>    PCEs. The PCC will also regain control over a PCE-initiated LSP if
> the PCEP session
>    fails and the Redelegation Timeout Interval timer expires.  In both
> cases, the
>    LSP is considered an "orphan" and the PCC MUST trigger the State
> Timeout Interval 
>    timer for that LSP ([I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce]). 
> But, what is not clear to me, is what is happening at this point to
> try to delegate to another PCE? From looking at the Stateful PCE
> draft, I believe the PCC would send a report to 1/any(?) PCE it was
> connected to, setting the delegate flag to 1 to try to get that PCE to
> accept delegation. If I interpreted that correctly, i.e. the PCC
> actively tries to switch delegation to another PCE, it might be worth
> stating that here.
> Assuming a reply comes in from that PCE, with the delegate flag set,
> within the state timeout interval, all is good. However, I was
> slightly concerned by the statement from the Stateful PCE draft that says:
> "If the PCE accepts the LSP Delegation,
>    it MUST set the Delegate flag to 1 when it sends an LSP Update
>    Request for the delegated LSP (note that this may occur at a later
>    time)." 
> I dont know how far in the future "a later time" could be, but if the
> State Timeout Interval expires at the PCC first, wont the LSP get flushed?
> The text also says that to obtain control, a PCE can send a
> PCInitiate. So as an alternative to my initial interpretation, does
> that mean the PCC could advertise the LSP with delegate flag set to
> zero, and wait for a PCE to take control by sending a PCInitiate as
> described?
> This also makes me wonder how/when the initial PCE would decide to
> give up control? Is that in scope for this draft?
>
> Section 6, final paragraph
> The explanation about the timeout sounds like it applies to Stateful
> PCE in general, and therefore may not be necessary to explain in this
> draft? Also, on PCE crash (bearing in mind paragraph 3 above), does
> the Redelegation Timeout Interval occur first, and then the State
> Timeout Interval?
>
> Section 8.1
> Meaning: Initiate. Being really picky, I would like this to match the
> full term used in this draft "Path Computation LSP Initiate Request"
> (or whatever term you settle on - see comment above between Section
> 4.1 and 5.1). This would then match RFC5440's way of doing it for PCReq.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Victoria


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Hi authors

Thanks for the work on this document and for responding to the various comm=
ents promptly.  It is nearly ready to go.

The author list has grown too long.  Please can you nominate some editors i=
nstead.  As I understand it, the new authors of the bis draft have no overl=
ap with the original author team.  As the changes are relatively small in s=
cope, perhaps the fairest thing is to choose one author from the original t=
eam and one author from the new team who have been most instrumental in cre=
ating the text, and name them as joint editors on the front page, but howev=
er you want to do it is fine.  Please try to agree something with the origi=
nal authors.

Once this is sorted, I'll submit for publication.

Thanks
Jon



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Hi,

Did https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext disappear down
a crack?

Looks like WG last call completed and the draft was updated.
Also the shepherd write-up was updated.

Does the big red button need to be pressed to send this to the AD?

Thanks,
Adrian



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Hi,

Please take a few minutes to write a review to the below draft for PCEP MIB Extensions. Thank you !


Name:                  draft-pce-mib-extensions

Revision:              01

Title:                      Extensions to the Path Computation Element Protocol(PCEP) Management Information Base(MIB) Module

Document date:               2016-10-07

Group:                  Individual Submission

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Abstract:

   This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)

   for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.

   In particular, it describes extensions to the managed objects for

   modeling of the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol

   (PCEP) for communications between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and

   a Path Computation Element (PCE), or between two PCEs, that support

   stateful capabilities.

- Regards
Dheeraj


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dheeraj Parchuru" <dparchur@Brocade.com>
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"Expires: April 10, 2017 "

I suggest that you submit a -02 (no changes unless the tools system
forces them on you:-( lest people get frustrated trying to find it and
so refrain from commenting.

Tom Petch

>
> Please take a few minutes to write a review to the below draft for
PCEP MIB Extensions. Thank you !
>
>
> Name:                  draft-pce-mib-extensions
>
> Revision:              01
>
> Title:                      Extensions to the Path Computation Element
Protocol(PCEP) Management Information Base(MIB) Module
>
> Document date:               2016-10-07
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> Group:                  Individual Submission
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> Pages:                   22

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>
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>
>    modeling of the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol
>
>    (PCEP) for communications between a Path Computation Client (PCC)
and
>
>    a Path Computation Element (PCE), or between two PCEs, that support
>
>    stateful capabilities.
>
> - Regards
> Dheeraj
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Hi Dheeraj,

(1) It would be good to ask the WG, if there is a will to continue to work
on the MIBs.
In the past, the feedback was to move towards Yang.

(2)  It would be nice, if we can maintain consistency between the MIB and
the Yang models.
The yang can be found at -
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang/
If you would like to see some changes in Yang, lets discuss them.

(3) You need to link the new extended pcePcepXEntityEntry/
pcePcepXPeerEntry/ pcePcepXSessEntry created a new table with the existing
entries in the entity/peer/session table.

Regards,
Dhruv




On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Dheeraj Parchuru <dparchur@brocade.com>
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> Hi,
>
>
>
> Please take a few minutes to write a review to the below draft for PCEP
> MIB Extensions. Thank you !
>
>
>
> Name:                  draft-pce-mib-extensions
>
> Revision:              01
>
> Title:                      Extensions to the Path Computation Element
> Protocol(PCEP) Management Information Base(MIB) Module
>
> Document date:               2016-10-07
>
> Group:                  Individual Submission
>
> Pages:                   22
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>
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> ietf.org_rfcdiff-3Furl2-3Ddraft-2Dpce-2Dmib-2Dextensions-2D01&d=DQICaQ&c=
> IL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg&r=ZkEFLDwLRPKreZ18Kptz_z547aAkiIkkoJfsKoKt6pQ&m=
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> Abstract:
>
>    This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
>
>    for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.
>
>    In particular, it describes extensions to the managed objects for
>
>    modeling of the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol
>
>    (PCEP) for communications between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and
>
>    a Path Computation Element (PCE), or between two PCEs, that support
>
>    stateful capabilities.
>
>
>
> - Regards
>
> Dheeraj
>
>
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or:rgb(12,52,61)">Regards,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
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<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet=
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ss=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 6:=
44 AM, Dheeraj Parchuru <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dparchur@br=
ocade.com" target=3D"_blank">dparchur@brocade.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
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.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0 In particular, it de=
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Hi Vaidya,

See inline..

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Vaidya Ramany <vramany@brocade.com> wrote:

> Hi Dhruv,
>
>
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> For the questions below:
>
>
>
> (1) It would be good to ask the WG, if there is a will to continue to wor=
k
> on the MIBs.
>
> In the past, the feedback was to move towards Yang.
>
> OK. This sounds reasonable.
> Would you be aware of any existing discussion threads on this topic that
> we can refer to?
>

[Dhruv]: In the past, there were other MIB extensions -
https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-p2mp-mib-04.txt
https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-pathkey-mib-04.txt

You can find some discussion around them.

It would be good to ask the WG, if there is interest in continuing to
update our MIBs.
If you or other vendors plan to implement this in production
=E2=80=8B,=E2=80=8B
or if a service provider is asking
=E2=80=8Bfor this MIB extention=E2=80=8B
,
=E2=80=8Bthat information =E2=80=8B
would help the WG in making this decision.


>
> (2)  It would b
>
e nice, if we can maintain consistency between the MIB and the Yang models.
>
> This would be contingent on the answer to (1) I believe.
>

[Dhruv]: You can look into Yang, that support stateful PCE anyways. We
welcome comments
=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
:)


>
>
> (3) You need to link the new extended pcePcepXEntityEntry/
> pcePcepXPeerEntry/ pcePcepXSessEntry created a new table with the
> existing entries in the entity/peer/session table.
>
> We are using the AUGMENTS feature to extend the existing tables. Did you
> have something else in mind?
>

[Dhruv]: Got it!
I was thinking that this is a table for only peers/sessions with Stateful
feature.
With augment these parameters are added to *all*.

=E2=80=8BRegards,
Dhruv=E2=80=8B


>
> Thanks,
>
> Vaidya
>
>
>
> *From:* Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Dhruv Dhody
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 08, 2017 10:38 PM
> *To:* Dheeraj Parchuru <dparchur@Brocade.com>
> *Cc:* Dilip Kumar <kumard@brocade.com>; pce@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Pce] Request for review on <draft-pce-mib-extensions-01>
>
>
>
> Hi Dheeraj,
>
>
>
> (1) It would be good to ask the WG, if there is a will to continue to wor=
k
> on the MIBs.
>
> In the past, the feedback was to move towards Yang.
>
>
>
> (2)  It would be nice, if we can maintain consistency between the MIB and
> the Yang models.
>
> The yang can be found at - https://datatracker.ietf.
> org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-yang/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.=
org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dpce-2Dpcep-2Dyang_&d=3DDwMFaQ&c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2=
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=3D>
>
> If you would like to see some changes in Yang, lets discuss them.
>
>
>
> (3) You need to link the new extended pcePcepXEntityEntry/
> pcePcepXPeerEntry/ pcePcepXSessEntry created a new table with the
> existing entries in the entity/peer/session table.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dhruv
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Dheeraj Parchuru <dparchur@brocade.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Please take a few minutes to write a review to the below draft for PCEP
> MIB Extensions. Thank you !
>
>
>
> Name:                  draft-pce-mib-extensions
>
> Revision:              01
>
> Title:                      Extensions to the Path Computation Element
> Protocol(PCEP) Management Information Base(MIB) Module
>
> Document date:               2016-10-07
>
> Group:                  Individual Submission
>
> Pages:                   22
>
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> Abstract:
>
>    This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
>
>    for use with network management protocols in the Internet community.
>
>    In particular, it describes extensions to the managed objects for
>
>    modeling of the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol
>
>    (PCEP) for communications between a Path Computation Client (PCC) and
>
>    a Path Computation Element (PCE), or between two PCEs, that support
>
>    stateful capabilities.
>
>
>
> - Regards
>
> Dheeraj
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><font face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">Hi Vaidya, <br><br=
>See inline.. </font><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Vaidya Ramany <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:vramany@brocade.com" target=3D"_blank">vramany@brocade.com<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US">
<div class=3D"gmail-m_-3202969818270458935WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hi Dhruv,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks for the feedback.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">For the questions below:<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><span class=3D"gmail-">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"m_-3202969818270458935__MailEndCompose"><=
span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">(1) It would be good to ask the WG, if ther=
e is a will to continue to work on=C2=A0the MIBs.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">In the past, the feedback was to move towar=
ds Yang.=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sans=
-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</span><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:cal=
ibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">OK. This sounds reasonable.
<br>
Would you be aware of any existing discussion threads on this topic that we=
 can refer to?</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font face=
=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">[Dhruv]: In the past, there were other MIB ex=
tensions -<br><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-p2mp=
-mib-04.txt">https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-zhao-pce-pcep-p2mp-mib-04.txt<=
/a><br><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-pathkey-mi=
b-04.txt">https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-pathkey-mib-04.txt=
</a><br><br>You can find some discussion around them.<br><br>It would be go=
od to ask the WG, if there is interest in continuing to update our MIBs. <b=
r>If you or other vendors plan to implement this in production<div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;co=
lor:rgb(12,52,61);display:inline">=E2=80=8B,=E2=80=8B</div> or if a service=
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;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61);display:inline">=E2=80=
=8Bfor this MIB extention=E2=80=8B</div>, <div class=3D"gmail_default" styl=
e=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61);di=
splay:inline">=E2=80=8Bthat information =E2=80=8B</div>would help the WG in=
 making this decision. </font><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-320296981827=
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sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">(2) =C2=A0It would b</span></p></span></div=
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ng=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-3202969818270458935WordSection1"><span =
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ebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">e nice, if we can maintain=
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softwaremark">=C2=A0</span>the MIB and the Yang models.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
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ibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">This would be contingent on the answe=
r to (1) I believe.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font=
 face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif">[Dhruv]: You can look into Yang, that su=
pport stateful PCE anyways. We welcome comments<div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,6=
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chet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">=C2=A0created a new table wit=
h the existing entries in the entity/peer/session table.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p>
</span><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:cal=
ibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">We are using the AUGMENTS feature to =
extend the existing tables. Did you have something else in mind?</span></p>=
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><font face=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-se=
rif">[Dhruv]: Got it! <br>I was thinking that this is a table for only peer=
s/sessions with Stateful feature. <br>With augment these parameters are add=
ed to *all*. =C2=A0</font></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><font face=3D"tr=
ebuchet ms, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><font f=
ace=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61);display:inl=
ine">=E2=80=8BRegards,</div></font></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><font f=
ace=3D"trebuchet ms, sans-serif"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61);display:inl=
ine">Dhruv=E2=80=8B</div><br></font><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-3202969818270458935Wo=
rdSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-famil=
y:calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Vaidya<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:calibri=
,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:cali=
bri,sans-serif"> Pce [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org" target=
=3D"_blank">pce-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dhruv Dhody<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 08, 2017 10:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dheeraj Parchuru &lt;dparchur@Brocade.com&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dilip Kumar &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kumard@brocade.com" target=3D"=
_blank">kumard@brocade.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=
=3D"_blank">pce@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org" target=
=3D"_blank">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [<span id=3D"gmail-1b5c7501-8a50-4fdd-935a-156e7d1b1bdc=
" class=3D"gmail-GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">Pce</span>] Request for review on &l=
t;draft-<span id=3D"gmail-763f3b19-e48e-4a9a-82f4-2ddf7ef86fa9" class=3D"gm=
ail-GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">pce</span>-<span id=3D"gmail-63d9ebd5-c0f0-4f10-9=
43a-749ae155830d" class=3D"gmail-GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">mib</span>-extension=
s-01&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class=3D"gmail-h5">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Hi Dheeraj,=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">(1) It would be good to ask the WG, if ther=
e is a will to continue to work on=C2=A0the MIBs.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">In the past, the feedback was to move towar=
ds Yang.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">(2) =C2=A0It would be nice, if we can maint=
ain consistency between<span class=3D"gmail-m_-3202969818270458935gmail-gin=
gersoftwaremark">=C2=A0</span>the MIB and the Yang models.=C2=A0<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">The
<span class=3D"gmail-m_-3202969818270458935gmail-gingersoftwaremark"><span =
id=3D"gmail-8403cf1b-c33d-4de6-a9f2-07342a256b4d" class=3D"gmail-GINGER_SOF=
TWARE_mark">yang</span></span> can be found at<span class=3D"gmail-m_-32029=
69818270458935gmail-gingersoftwaremark"> -</span>=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://u=
rldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draf=
t-2Dietf-2Dpce-2Dpcep-2Dyang_&amp;d=3DDwMFaQ&amp;c=3DIL_XqQWOjubgfqINi2jTzg=
&amp;r=3Dg28q3pOgXDY3WFHMMERBxxQaNJXIW2JQWKz6oovJTVo&amp;m=3D7DYiV1Uzc9iEq0=
-DKzFODx56_v3x_ehr06BMQ3e1xCo&amp;s=3DLd9cpbSyMYh1HeoujQoImgEd3zVNDPiaFEblH=
_Cjf4U&amp;e=3D" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.<wbr>org/doc/dr=
aft-ietf-pce-pcep-<wbr>yang/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">If you would like to see some changes in Ya=
ng,
<span class=3D"gmail-m_-3202969818270458935gmail-gingersoftwaremark"><span =
id=3D"gmail-bb33e815-7d0d-410a-b9e8-61b23f1876e2" class=3D"gmail-GINGER_SOF=
TWARE_mark">lets</span></span> discuss them.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">(3) You need to link the new extended=C2=A0=
</span><span class=3D"gmail-m_-3202969818270458935gmail-gingersoftwaremark"=
><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:black=
"><span id=3D"eced0f3a-0cbc-4c0d-b2f9-dbdba331a6c9" class=3D"gmail-GINGER_S=
OFTWARE_mark gmail-GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">pcePcepXEntit=
yEntry</span>/ <span id=3D"gmail-cd6a4c6b-f4c1-41d9-a086-2f58bdf3c034" clas=
s=3D"gmail-GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">pcePcepXPeerEntry</span>/
 </span></span><span class=3D"gmail-m_-3202969818270458935gmail-gingersoftw=
aremark"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;col=
or:black">p</span></span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:black">cePcepXSessEntry</span><span style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"></span><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">=C2=A0cre=
ated a new table with the existing entries in the entity/peer/session table=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Dhruv=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;trebuchet ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 6:44 AM, Dheeraj Parchuru &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:dparchur@brocade.com" target=3D"_blank">dparchur@brocade=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;comi=
c sans ms&quot;">Hi,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;comi=
c sans ms&quot;">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:&quot;comi=
c sans ms&quot;">Please take a few minutes to write a review <span id=3D"gm=
ail-ff7b81bd-ffda-494e-8e9f-26bf5eb12454" class=3D"gmail-GINGER_SOFTWARE_ma=
rk">to</span> the below draft for PCEP MIB Extensions. Thank you<span id=3D=
"gmail-58d14650-f144-4a63-99ec-c8e7cf6ef53f" class=3D"gmail-GINGER_SOFTWARE=
_mark"> !</span></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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c sans ms&quot;">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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il-GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">modeling</span> of the Path Computation Element Co=
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il-GINGER_SOFTWARE_mark">stateful</span> capabilities.</span><u></u><u></u>=
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Hi Adrian

Thanks for checking.  This draft depends normatively on draft-ietf-pce-gmpl=
s-pcep-extensions, which I believe still has some actions to be completed. =
 Our plan is to advance both together.

Cheers
Jon

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To: pce@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] Status of draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext

Hi,

Did https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext disappear =
down a crack?

Looks like WG last call completed and the draft was updated.
Also the shepherd write-up was updated.

Does the big red button need to be pressed to send this to the AD?

Thanks,
Adrian


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Dheeraj

This draft has now expired and been removed from the database (or at
least, the easy-to-access one) so my only comment at this point is why
bother?

As Dhruv says, YANG is where most development is now and this I-D, in
particular, fails to make a case for its existence over and above the
existing RFC, which, IMO, has been rather poorly edited to produce this
I-D.

Tom Petch

----- Original Message -----
From: "t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: "Dheeraj Parchuru" <dparchur@Brocade.com>; <pce-chairs@ietf.org>
Cc: <pce@ietf.org>; "Dheeraj Parchuru" <dparchur@Brocade.com>; "Dilip
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Subject: Re: [Pce] Request for review on <draft-pce-mib-extensions-01>


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dheeraj Parchuru" <dparchur@Brocade.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2017 2:14 AM
>
> "Expires: April 10, 2017 "
>
> I suggest that you submit a -02 (no changes unless the tools system
> forces them on you:-( lest people get frustrated trying to find it and
> so refrain from commenting.
>
> Tom Petch
>
> >
> > Please take a few minutes to write a review to the below draft for
> PCEP MIB Extensions. Thank you !
> >
> >
> > Name:                  draft-pce-mib-extensions
> >
> > Revision:              01
> >
> > Title:                      Extensions to the Path Computation
Element
> Protocol(PCEP) Management Information Base(MIB) Module
> >
> > Document date:               2016-10-07
> >
> > Group:                  Individual Submission
> >
> > Pages:                   22
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
> > URL:
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> >
> >
> > Abstract:
> >
> >    This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base
> (MIB)
> >
> >    for use with network management protocols in the Internet
> community.
> >
> >    In particular, it describes extensions to the managed objects for
> >
> >    modeling of the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol
> >
> >    (PCEP) for communications between a Path Computation Client (PCC)
> and
> >
> >    a Path Computation Element (PCE), or between two PCEs, that
support
> >
> >    stateful capabilities.
> >
> > - Regards
> > Dheeraj
> >
> >
>
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All,

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-cod=
epoints-03 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/


Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.



The poll ends on Monday, April 24.



Many thanks,
Jon


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dh=
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The PCE WG has placed draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints in state 
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Jonathan Hardwick)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/


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Hi authors

I have a few actions that I need you to take on IPR before I can submit thi=
s draft for publication.

I see that there were two IPR disclosures against RFC 6006.  I assume that =
these also apply to draft-ietf-pce-rfc6006bis.  Please could you update the=
 IPR system to reflect that?

Please could you confirm whether you are aware of any other IPR that applie=
s to this draft, and if so, that a disclosure has been made?

When I run idnits on the draft, it spits out this warning:

=3D=3D The document seems to contain a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378 work, but=
 was
     first submitted on or after 10 November 2008.  The disclaimer is usual=
ly
     necessary only for documents that revise or obsolete older RFCs, and t=
hat
     take significant amounts of text from those RFCs.  If you can contact =
all
     authors of the source material and they are willing to grant the BCP78
     rights to the IETF Trust, you can and should remove the disclaimer.
     Otherwise, the disclaimer is needed and you can ignore this comment.
     (See the Legal Provisions document at
     http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info for more information.)

Please could you each confirm that you are willing to grant the BCP78 right=
s to the IETF trust?  Then we can remove the boilerplate and squash the war=
ning.

Please CC the PCE mailing list with your replies.

Best regards
Jon



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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have a few actions that I need you to take on IPR =
before I can submit this draft for publication.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I see that there were two IPR disclosures against RF=
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nbsp; Please could you update the IPR system to reflect that?<o:p></o:p></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please could you confirm whether you are aware of an=
y other IPR that applies to this draft, and if so, that a disclosure has be=
en made?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">When I run idnits on the draft, it spits out this wa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
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urier New&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; necess=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Co=
urier New&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; author=
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Yes/Support!

Dhruv (as co-author)



On Monday 10 April 2017 04:08 PM, Jonathan Hardwick wrote:
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> All,
>
> This is the start of a two week poll on making 
> draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03 a PCE working group document.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/
>
> Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating 
> “yes/support” or “no/do not support”.  If indicating no, please state 
> your reasons.  If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd 
> like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.
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> The poll ends on Monday, April 24.
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> Many thanks,
>
> Jon
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BR, Dan.=20

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Yes/Support!=20

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On Monday 10 April 2017 04:08 PM, Jonathan Hardwick wrote:

All,

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style=3D'color:windowtext'>Yes, support! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>Also a co-author; and =
tired of reviewing PCE code on GitHub to see who has been code swatting. =
</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>=F0=9F=98=89</span><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:windowtext'>BR, Dan. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:windowtext'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>From:</span></b><sp=
an lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:windowtext;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> =
Dhruv Dhody [mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2017 =
17:01<br><b>To:</b> Jonathan Hardwick =
&lt;Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com&gt;; pce@ietf.org<br><b>Cc:</b> =
pce-chairs@ietf.org; =
draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Poll =
for adoption: =
draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p><tt><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Yes/Support! </span></tt><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p><tt><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Dhruv (as =
co-author)</span></tt><o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Monday 10 April 2017 04:08 PM, Jonathan Hardwick =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>All,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This is the =
start of a two week poll on making =
draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03 a PCE working group =
document.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoi=
nts/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoint=
s/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Please review the draft and send an email to the =
list indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not =
support=E2=80=9D. &nbsp;If indicating no, please state your =
reasons.&nbsp; If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd =
like to see addressed once the document is a WG =
document.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>The poll ends on Monday, April 24.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Many =
thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jon<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
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yes/support

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Cheers,

Jeff

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Date: Monday, April 10, 2017 at 09:10
To: 'Dhruv Dhody' <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>, Jonathan Hardwick <Jonathan.Hardw=
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Yes, support!=20

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Also a co-author; and tired of reviewing PCE code on GitHub to see who has =
been code swatting. =F0=9F=98=89

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BR, Dan.=20

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From: Dhruv Dhody [mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com]=20
Sent: 10 April 2017 17:01
To: Jonathan Hardwick <Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com>; pce@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03

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Yes/Support!=20

Dhruv (as co-author)

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On Monday 10 April 2017 04:08 PM, Jonathan Hardwick wrote:

All,

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This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-cod=
epoints-03 a PCE working group document.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/

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The poll ends on Monday, April 24.

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Jon

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017 at 09:10<br><b>To: </b>'Dhruv Dhody' &lt;dhruv.ietf@gmail.com&gt;, Jonat=
han Hardwick &lt;Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com&gt;, &lt;pce@ietf.org&gt;<=
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p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'>This is the start of a two=
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On 10/04/2017 18:01, Dhruv Dhody wrote:
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> Yes/Support!
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> Dhruv (as co-author)
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>
> On Monday 10 April 2017 04:08 PM, Jonathan Hardwick wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> This is the start of a two week poll on making 
>> draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03 a PCE working group document.
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/
>>
>> Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating 
>> “yes/support” or “no/do not support”.  If indicating no, please state 
>> your reasons.  If yes, please also feel free to provide comments 
>> you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document.
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>> The poll ends on Monday, April 24.
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Jon
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Yes, I think we should use this document to sort out the squatting and pointless
consumption of code points by open source releases that don't go anywhere. I'm
not 100% convinced that this will stop squatting, but it offers a way to not
squat.
 
I think I will want to whine about some of the details of this document, but
that can be done once it is a WG draft.
 
Thanks,
Adrian
 
 
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All,
 
This is the start of a two week poll on making
draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/
 
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style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-=
bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Yes, I think we should =
use this document to sort out the squatting and pointless consumption of =
code points by open source releases that don't go anywhere. I'm not 100% =
convinced that this will stop squatting, but it offers a way to not =
squat.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-=
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Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-=
bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>I think I will want to =
whine about some of the details of this document, but that can be done =
once it is a WG draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-=
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style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-=
bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-=
bidi-font-family:"Times New =
Roman";color:#1F497D'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-=
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Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri;mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri;mso-=
bidi-font-family:"Times New =
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Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>From:</span></=
b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-f=
ont-family:"Times New =
Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'> Pce =
[mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan =
Hardwick<br><b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2017 11:39<br><b>To:</b> =
pce@ietf.org<br><b>Cc:</b> pce-chairs@ietf.org; =
draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Pce] =
Poll for adoption: =
draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>All,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This is the =
start of a two week poll on making =
draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03 a PCE working group =
document.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoi=
nts/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoint=
s/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Please review the draft and send an email to the =
list indicating &#8220;yes/support&#8221; or &#8220;no/do not =
support&#8221;. &nbsp;If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbsp; =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see =
addressed once the document is a WG document.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>The =
poll ends on Monday, April 24.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Many =
thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jon<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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Thanks Jon!

Looks like I need to chivvy the authors of draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.

But, oh look! It has expired. A year ago!

Wow! Any archaeologists out there want to dig through the mail archive to find
out what needed to be done?

Thanks,
Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
> Sent: 10 April 2017 08:37
> To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; pce@ietf.org; Julien Meuric
> Subject: RE: [Pce] Status of draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext
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> Hi Adrian
> 
> Thanks for checking.  This draft depends normatively on draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-
> pcep-extensions, which I believe still has some actions to be completed.  Our
plan
> is to advance both together.
> 
> Cheers
> Jon
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Hi,
> 
> Did https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext disappear
> down a crack?
> 
> Looks like WG last call completed and the draft was updated.
> Also the shepherd write-up was updated.
> 
> Does the big red button need to be pressed to send this to the AD?
> 
> Thanks,
> Adrian
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for Segment Routing
        Authors         : Siva Sivabalan
                          Clarence Filsfils
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Wim Henderickx
                          Jon Hardwick
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-09.txt
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	Date            : 2017-04-10

Abstract:
   Segment Routing (SR) enables any head-end node to select any path
   without relying on a hop-by-hop signaling technique (e.g., LDP or
   RSVP-TE).  It depends only on "segments" that are advertised by Link-
   State Interior Gateway Protocols (IGPs).  A Segment Routed Path can
   be derived from a variety of mechanisms, including an IGP Shortest
   Path Tree (SPT), explicit configuration, or a Path Computation
   Element (PCE).  This document specifies extensions to the Path
   Computation Element Protocol (PCEP) that allow a stateful PCE to
   compute and initiate Traffic Engineering (TE) paths, as well as a PCC
   to request a path subject to certain constraint(s) and optimization
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        Title           : Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) for Point-to-Multipoint Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths
        Authors         : Quintin Zhao
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   This document obsoletes RFC 6006.


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Hi,


>From what I can recall, there was no comment pending. Grep'ing through my a=
rchives I found : the following last messages regarding the gmpls draft are=
 :


Other comments addressed : https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/3oswQv=
Ie4THUtUSUnXwKfmfeVmg, also reflected in https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/9=
4/slides/slides-94-pce-0.pdf



WG comments addressed: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/vPZsnrCy4k=
h7H8VaMDz6I-XI8uw



The document status from the slides is Shepherd assigned.


I will be happy to address any actions that I can complete on my side.


Cyril

________________________________
From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 4:40:28 PM
To: 'Jonathan Hardwick'; draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions@ietf.org
Cc: pce@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Pce] Status of draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext

Thanks Jon!

Looks like I need to chivvy the authors of draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extens=
ions.

But, oh look! It has expired. A year ago!

Wow! Any archaeologists out there want to dig through the mail archive to f=
ind
out what needed to be done?

Thanks,
Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
> Sent: 10 April 2017 08:37
> To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; pce@ietf.org; Julien Meuric
> Subject: RE: [Pce] Status of draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext
>
> Hi Adrian
>
> Thanks for checking.  This draft depends normatively on draft-ietf-pce-gm=
pls-
> pcep-extensions, which I believe still has some actions to be completed. =
 Our
plan
> is to advance both together.
>
> Cheers
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
> Sent: 07 April 2017 18:33
> To: pce@ietf.org
> Subject: [Pce] Status of draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext
>
> Hi,
>
> Did https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext disappea=
r
> down a crack?
>
> Looks like WG last call completed and the draft was updated.
> Also the shepherd write-up was updated.
>
> Does the big red button need to be pressed to send this to the AD?
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pce mailing list
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 messages regarding the gmpls draft are&nbsp;:</span></p>
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<p>Other comments addressed&nbsp;:&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://mailarchive.ietf=
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529057">https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-pce-0.pdf</a><=
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<p><br>
</p>
<p>WG comments addressed:&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch=
/msg/pce/vPZsnrCy4kh7H8VaMDz6I-XI8uw" class=3D"x_OWAAutoLink" id=3D"LPlnk17=
2215">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/vPZsnrCy4kh7H8VaMDz6I-XI8uw=
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<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>The document status from the slides is Shepherd assigned.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>I will be happy to address any actions that I can complete on my side.</=
p>
<p><br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 10, 2017 4:40:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jonathan Hardwick'; draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions@ietf.o=
rg<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pce@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Pce] Status of draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext</font>
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<div class=3D"PlainText">Thanks Jon!<br>
<br>
Looks like I need to chivvy the authors of draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extens=
ions.<br>
<br>
But, oh look! It has expired. A year ago!<br>
<br>
Wow! Any archaeologists out there want to dig through the mail archive to f=
ind<br>
out what needed to be done?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Adrian<br>
<br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Jonathan Hardwick [<a href=3D"mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitc=
h.com">mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com</a>]<br>
&gt; Sent: 10 April 2017 08:37<br>
&gt; To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; pce@ietf.org; Julien Meuric<br>
&gt; Subject: RE: [Pce] Status of draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hi Adrian<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks for checking.&nbsp; This draft depends normatively on draft-iet=
f-pce-gmpls-<br>
&gt; pcep-extensions, which I believe still has some actions to be complete=
d.&nbsp; Our<br>
plan<br>
&gt; is to advance both together.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Cheers<br>
&gt; Jon<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; From: Pce [<a href=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:pce-bounces@=
ietf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel<br>
&gt; Sent: 07 April 2017 18:33<br>
&gt; To: pce@ietf.org<br>
&gt; Subject: [Pce] Status of draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Did <a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rw=
a-ext">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext</a> dis=
appear<br>
&gt; down a crack?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Looks like WG last call completed and the draft was updated.<br>
&gt; Also the shepherd write-up was updated.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Does the big red button need to be pressed to send this to the AD?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; Adrian<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; Pce mailing list<br>
&gt; Pce@ietf.org<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pce">https://www.ietf=
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On 10 April 2017 at 06:38, Jonathan Hardwick <
Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com> wrote:

> All,
>
>
>
> This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-c=
odepoints-03
> a PCE working group document.
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/
>
>
>
> Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating
> =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cno/do not support=E2=80=9D.  If=
 indicating no, please state your
> reasons.  If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to
> see addressed once the document is a WG document.
>
>
>
> The poll ends on Monday, April 24.
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>
>
> Many thanks,
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes/Support<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 10 April 2017 at 06:38, Jonathan Hardwic=
k <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<b=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">All,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is the start of a two week poll on making draft=
-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-<wbr>codepoints-03 a PCE working group document.<u></u>=
<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dh=
ody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.or=
g/<wbr>doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-<wbr>codepoints/</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_4006189073462572912MsoPlainText">Please review the draft and =
send an email to the list indicating =E2=80=9Cyes/support=E2=80=9D or =E2=
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<p class=3D"m_4006189073462572912MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_4006189073462572912MsoPlainText">The poll ends on Monday, Apr=
il 24.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_4006189073462572912MsoPlainText"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"m_4006189073462572912MsoPlainText">Many thanks,<u></u><u></u></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jon<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

Regards,
Dhruv

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: 11 April 2017 10:21
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Subject: [Pce] Final IPR check for draft-ietf-pce-pceps

Dear authors


Could you please send an email to the PCE mailing list saying whether you a=
re aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pce-pceps and, if so, if it =
has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs 3979, 4879,=
 3669 and 5378 for more details.)  If you are not aware of any IPR that app=
lies, please reply saying "I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this d=
raft".

A reply is required from each of you before we can proceed.

Many thanks
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Hardwick<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> Cyril Margaria &lt;cmargaria@juniper.net&gt;; pce@ietf.org<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Dear authors<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I am not aware of any IPR that =
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">is
</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">appli</span><span lang=3D"EN-US">cable</span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-US"> to this draft
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EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun"> Jonathan Hardwick [ma=
ilto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
<br>
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=CA=B1=BC=E4<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun"> 2017</span><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun">=C4=EA<span lang=3D"EN-US">4</span>=D4=C2<=
span lang=3D"EN-US">11</span>=C8=D5<span lang=3D"EN-US">
 12:51<br>
</span><b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"> draft-ietf-pce-pceps@ietf.org<br>
</span><b>=B3=AD=CB=CD<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> Cyril Margaria; pce@ietf.org<br>
</span><b>=D6=F7=CC=E2<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> Final IPR check for draft-ietf-pce-pceps<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Dear authors<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Could you please send an ema=
il to the PCE mailing list saying whether you are aware of any IPR that app=
lies to draft-ietf-pce-pceps and, if so, if it has been disclosed in compli=
ance with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs
 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details.)&nbsp; If you are not aware of=
 any IPR that applies, please reply saying =A1=B0I am not aware of any IPR =
that applies to this draft=A1=B1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">A reply is required from each o=
f you before we can proceed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Many thanks<o:p></o:p></span></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Jon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:SimSun"> 2017</span><span style=3D"font=
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 18:39<br>
</span><b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"> pce@ietf.org<br>
</span><b>=B3=AD=CB=CD<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints@ietf.org<br>
</span><b>=D6=F7=CC=E2<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> [Pce] Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
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document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/">https://datatracker.ietf=
.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Please review the draft and =
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pce@ietf.org</a><br>
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> <a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">
pce-chairs@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoi=
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draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints@ietf.org</a><br>
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> [Pce] Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03</span></s=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
 poll on making draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03 a PCE working group =
document.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/">https://datatracker.ietf=
.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/</a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US=
"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Please review the draft and =
send an email to the list indicating =A1=B0yes/support=A1=B1 or =A1=B0no/do=
 not support=A1=B1. &nbsp;If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbsp=
; If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to
 see addressed once the document is a WG document.</span><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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N-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The poll ends on Monday, Apr=
il 24.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF.

        Title           : Secure Transport for PCEP
        Authors         : Diego R. Lopez
                          Oscar Gonzalez de Dios
                          Qin Wu
                          Dhruv Dhody
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pceps-12.txt
	Pages           : 19
	Date            : 2017-04-11

Abstract:
   The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) defines
   the mechanisms for the communication between a Path Computation
   Client (PCC) and a Path Computation Element (PCE), or among PCEs.
   This document describe the usage of Transport Layer Security (TLS) to
   enhance PCEP security, hence the PCEPS acronym proposed for it.  The
   additional security mechanisms are provided by the transport protocol
   supporting PCEP, and therefore they do not affect the flexibility and
   extensibility of PCEP.

   This document updates RFC 5440 regarding the PCEP initialization
   phase specification.


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Le 10/04/2017 =C3=A0 12:38, Jonathan Hardwick a =C3=A9crit :
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> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/
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> Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating =E2=80=
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Hi Adrian

Many thanks for these comments.  I'm picking up this thread and replying as=
 PCE working group chair, as the authors are unavailable.  I apologise for =
the delay.

Please see my proposed resolutions inline below, marked with "Jon>"

Best regards
Jon


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]=20
Sent: 16 February 2017 22:10
To: ietf@ietf.org
Cc: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Pce] Last Call: <draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-18.txt> (PCEP Ex=
tensions for Stateful PCE) to Proposed Standard

IETF last call

I have read and commented on this document during its production by the PCE=
 working group. It constitutes a missing piece of the puzzle that we starte=
d with RFC 4655.

The publication of this work as an RFC is long overdue to the point that im=
plementers have become confused over the last couple of years about whether=
 it would ever be published.

However, on re-reading this final version, I notice a few points.
Nothing major.

Thanks for the work,
Adrian

---
             =20
The reference to [I-D.ietf-pce-stateful-pce-app] is for some terms that are=
 fundamental to understanding this document.  It needs to be a normative re=
ference.

Jon> ACK. Should be RFC 8051.

---

3.1.3 has...
   Note that existing configuration tools and protocols can be used to
   set LSP state.
...which is true, but is lacking references for the inquisitive mind.

Just need some form of "(such as, ....)"

Jon> "... , such as a Command Line Interface (CLI) tool."

---

In the RBNF in section 6 there is some mismatch between hyphen and undersco=
re. Not only is there a mixture of uses, but sometime the same construct is=
 named in different ways (e.g., in 6.1 you have <actual_attribute_list> and=
 <actual_attribute-list>)

Jon> ACK, will tidy this up.

---

In 6.2, would it help show consistency with 6.1 and remove potential confus=
ion if

      <path>::=3D <intended_path><attribute-list>

read

      <path>::=3D <intended_path><intended-attribute-list>

Jon> ACK

---

The use of TBD in the document to flag where IANA allocations need to be up=
dated in the document is going to cause the RFC editor additional work and =
is error prone. What you should probably do is use TBD1, TBD2, etc. in the =
text and then include those flags in the IANA considerations sections.

However (!) I note that early allocation has been done for most of the code=
 points. So...
- The IANA section should refer to this and ask IANA to confirm those
  allocations and update the registry to point to this document when it
  is an RFC
- The actual numbers can be filled in in place of all the TBDs
- It would help the reader/coder if you pointed forward to the new
  registries (for example, from 7.3.3 to 8.9)

Jon> ACK although having me do it is equally error prone ;-)

---

7.3.2 Symbolic Path Name

You need to give some clues!
Is this supposed to be printable?
Is this in a particular character set?
Is it supposed to be null terminated (which would mean that if it was a mul=
tiple of 4 octets you'd need another four octets of pad)

Jon> This was also raised by others - here is my proposed resolution.

OLD
   Each LSP (path) MUST have a symbolic name that is unique in the PCC.
   This symbolic path name MUST remain constant throughout an LSP's
   lifetime, which may span across multiple consecutive PCEP sessions
   and/or PCC restarts.  The symbolic path name MAY be specified by an
   operator in a PCC's configuration.  If the operator does not specify
   a unique symbolic name for a path, the PCC MUST auto-generate one.

   The SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV MUST be included in the LSP object in the
   LSP State Report (PCRpt) message when during a given PCEP session an
   LSP is first reported to a PCE.  A PCC sends to a PCE the first LSP
   State Report either during State Synchronization, or when a new LSP
   is configured at the PCC.  The symbolic path name MAY be included in
   the LSP object in subsequent LSP State Reports for the LSP.

   <snip>

   Symbolic Path Name (variable): symbolic name for the LSP, unique in
   the PCC.

NEW
   Each LSP MUST have a symbolic path name that is unique in the PCC.
   The symbolic path name is a human-readable string that identifies an
   LSP in the network.  The symbolic path name MUST remain constant
   throughout an LSP's lifetime, which may span across multiple
   consecutive PCEP sessions and/or PCC restarts.  The symbolic path
   name MAY be specified by an operator in a PCC's configuration.  If the
   operator does not specify a unique symbolic name for an LSP, then the
   PCC MUST auto-generate one.  =20

   The PCE uses the symbolic path name as a stable identifier for the LSP.
   If the PCEP session restarts, or the PCC restarts, or the PCC re-delegat=
es
   the LSP to a different PCE, the symbolic path name for the LSP remains
   constant and can be used to correlate across the PCEP session instances.

   The other protocol identifiers for the LSP cannot reliably be used to
   identify the LSP across multiple PCEP sessions, for the following reason=
s.
   -  The PLSP-ID is unique only within the scope of a single PCEP session.
   -  The LSP-IDENTIFIERS TLV is only guaranteed to be present for LSPs=20
      that are signalled with RSVP-TE.

   The SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV MUST be included in the LSP object in the
   LSP State Report (PCRpt) message when during a given PCEP session an
   LSP is first reported to a PCE.  A PCC sends to a PCE the first LSP
   State Report either during State Synchronization, or when a new LSP
   is configured at the PCC.

   The initial PCRpt creates a binding between the symbolic path name and
   the PLSP-ID for the LSP which lasts for the duration of the PCEP session=
.
   The PCC MAY omit the symbolic path name from subsequent LSP State
   Reports for that LSP on that PCEP session, and just give the PLSP-ID.

   <snip>

   Symbolic Path Name (variable): symbolic name for the LSP, unique in
   the PCC.  It SHOULD be a string of printable ASCII characters and SHOULD
   be NULL-terminated.  The Symbolic Path Name (including its NULL
   terminator) MUST be padded to 4-bytes alignment; the padding itself
   MUST NOT be included in the Length field.

END NEW


---

7.3.4
While 2205 is technically a good enough reference for the ERROR_SPEC object=
, I wonder if the reader will automatically be aware of the additional work=
 on that object in 3471, 4201, and 4920.

Jon> Did you mean 3473 instead of 3471?  I don't think it's necessary to ex=
haustively list all RFCs that make use of ERROR_SPEC.  None of these RFCs u=
pdates 2205.


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Thank you Jonathan.  Those changes sufficiently address my concerns.
Yours,
Joel

On 4/11/17 5:55 AM, Jonathan Hardwick wrote:
> Hi Joel
>
> Many thanks for these comments.  I'm picking up this thread and replying as PCE working group chair, as the authors are unavailable.  I apologise for the delay.
>
> Please see my proposed resolutions inline below, marked with "Jon>"
>
> Best regards
> Jon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Halpern [mailto:jmh@joelhalpern.com]
> Sent: 17 February 2017 03:38
> To: gen-art@ietf.org
> Cc: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce.all@ietf.org; pce@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Review of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-18
>
> Reviewer: Joel Halpern
> Review result: Ready with Issues
>
> <snip>
>
> ====
>
> Minor issues:
>    At the end of section 5.4, the text talks about a PCE accepting status updates even if the  stateful capability has not been negotiated.  Which is fine.  But as written, the text seems to say that doing so means that the PCE will be able to "build and maintain an up to date view of the state of the PCC's LSPs".  However, if the capability has not been negotiated, I do not see how the PCE can count on getting full and timely state reports.  Trying to infer why a PCC is sending such a report in the absence of the agreement seems problematic.
>
> Jon> I agree.  I propose that we delete this sentence:
> " Note that even if the update
>    capability has not been advertised, a PCE can still accept LSP Status
>    Reports from a PCC and build and maintain an up to date view of the
>    state of the PCC's LSPs. "
>
> ====
>
>     This comment may be a misunderstanding or mis-expectation on my part.  I would have expected one of the ways o using an active PCE is to have the PCE decide (under suitable circumstances) that an LSP is needed between two PCCs.  As far as I can tell, the text in section
> 5.8.2 and 5.8.3 prohibits that.  A PCE is only allowed to send an LSP Update Request (in a PCUpd message) for an LSP that has been delegated to it.  At that point I thought that a PCC could delegate a block of unsetup LSPs to the PCE.  But then looking at 5.8.2, the text states that for each delegation, the PCC must request an initial path.  That seems to prohibit delegating a block of LSPs for future updates.  Is the intention to prohibit the driving of LSP creation from the PCE?
>
> Jon> Yes, the intention is that the PCE does not drive creation of the LSPs.  That behaviour is allowed but is described by a separate draft (draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp).  I propose to clarify this in the introduction to the draft, so that future readers don't get caught by the same mis-expectation.  We'll add the following text to section 1, and add an informative reference to draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp.  OK?
>
> NEW
>    The extensions that this document describes do not permit the
>    PCE to drive creation of an LSP.  The companion document
>    [I-D. ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp] specifies PCE-initiated LSP creation.
>
> ====
>
>     I have looked but I can not find the text explaining the significance and use of the Symbolic path name.  It is mandated by the draft.  There seems to be an implicit assumption taht it is needed by the PCE.  If the explanation of how or why it is needed is not present, it should be.
>
> Jon> Agreed.  Several of our reviewers have picked up on this.  I think we should clarify this in section 7.3.2 "Symbolic Path Name TLV".
>
> OLD
>    Each LSP (path) MUST have a symbolic name that is unique in the PCC.
>    This symbolic path name MUST remain constant throughout an LSP's
>    lifetime, which may span across multiple consecutive PCEP sessions
>    and/or PCC restarts.  The symbolic path name MAY be specified by an
>    operator in a PCC's configuration.  If the operator does not specify
>    a unique symbolic name for a path, the PCC MUST auto-generate one.
>
>    The SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV MUST be included in the LSP object in the
>    LSP State Report (PCRpt) message when during a given PCEP session an
>    LSP is first reported to a PCE.  A PCC sends to a PCE the first LSP
>    State Report either during State Synchronization, or when a new LSP
>    is configured at the PCC.  The symbolic path name MAY be included in
>    the LSP object in subsequent LSP State Reports for the LSP.
>
>    <snip>
>
>    Symbolic Path Name (variable): symbolic name for the LSP, unique in
>    the PCC.
>
> NEW
>    Each LSP MUST have a symbolic path name that is unique in the PCC.
>    The symbolic path name is a human-readable string that identifies an
>    LSP in the network.  The symbolic path name MUST remain constant
>    throughout an LSP's lifetime, which may span across multiple
>    consecutive PCEP sessions and/or PCC restarts.  The symbolic path
>    name MAY be specified by an operator in a PCC's configuration.  If the
>    operator does not specify a unique symbolic name for an LSP, then the
>    PCC MUST auto-generate one.
>
>    The PCE uses the symbolic path name as a stable identifier for the LSP.
>    If the PCEP session restarts, or the PCC restarts, or the PCC re-delegates
>    the LSP to a different PCE, the symbolic path name for the LSP remains
>    constant and can be used to correlate across the PCEP session instances.
>
>    The other protocol identifiers for the LSP cannot reliably be used to
>    identify the LSP across multiple PCEP sessions, for the following reasons.
>    -  The PLSP-ID is unique only within the scope of a single PCEP session.
>    -  The LSP-IDENTIFIERS TLV is only guaranteed to be present for LSPs
>       that are signalled with RSVP-TE.
>
>    The SYMBOLIC-PATH-NAME TLV MUST be included in the LSP object in the
>    LSP State Report (PCRpt) message when during a given PCEP session an
>    LSP is first reported to a PCE.  A PCC sends to a PCE the first LSP
>    State Report either during State Synchronization, or when a new LSP
>    is configured at the PCC.
>
>    The initial PCRpt creates a binding between the symbolic path name and
>    the PLSP-ID for the LSP which lasts for the duration of the PCEP session.
>    The PCC MAY omit the symbolic path name from subsequent LSP State
>    Reports for that LSP on that PCEP session, and just give the PLSP-ID.
>
>    <snip>
>
>    Symbolic Path Name (variable): symbolic name for the LSP, unique in
>    the PCC.  It SHOULD be a string of printable ASCII characters and SHOULD
>    be NULL-terminated.  The Symbolic Path Name (including its NULL
>    terminator) MUST be padded to 4-bytes alignment; the padding itself
>    MUST NOT be included in the Length field.
>
> END NEW
>
> ====
>
> Nits/editorial comments:
>     Should the text on the S bit in section 7.3 (the LSP Object
> definition) note that it should be set to 0 on all messages sent by the PCE?  Should that also be stated for the R bit?  And the O bits?
>
> Jon> Yes.  We will add a note to the description of these fields.
>
> ====
>
>   Section 9.2 seems very odd.  It states that the IETF "SHOULD" do some additional work.  I understand why teh work is needed.  But this does not seem to match the RFC 2119 meaning of SHOULD as it does not apply to eitehr the implementor or the implementation.
>
> Jon> I agree - this is incorrect use of SHOULD.  It also references the MIB without even mentioning the YANG, which is a symptom of this document's advanced age.  We'll change this as follows (and add two informative references).
>
> NEW
>    The PCEP YANG module [I-D.ietf-pce-pcep-yang] should include
>    -  advertised stateful capabilities and synchronization status per PCEP session
>    -  the delegation status of each configured LSP.
>
>    The PCEP MIB [RFC7420] could also be updated to include this information.
>
> ====
>


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Jon, Lionel,

I believe Lionel got confused by the wording introduced in RFC 8051:
- no report, no update means stateless PCE;
- report, no update means passive stateful PCE;
- report and update means active (stateful) PCE.

More details below, [JM].

Thanks for the work,

Julien


Apr. 11, 2017 - Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com:
> =====
> 
> [LM] active/passive mode are not  advertized in PCEP. s/if active 
> stateful PCE capability was not advertised/if stateful PCE
> capability was not advertised
> 
> Jon> ACK
> 
> =====
[JM] NACK! ;-)
Actually, the passive mode is advertised using the
Stateful-capability-object TLV with the U bit unset, the active mode by
setting the U bit.

> =====
> 
> Note that even if the update capability has not been advertised, a 
> PCE can still accept LSP Status Reports from a PCC and build and 
> maintain an up to date view of the state of the PCC's LSPs.
> 
> [LM] I don't undersand. Is it not in contradiction with
> 
> "If the PCEP Speaker on the PCE supports the extensions of this
> draft but did not advertise this capability, then upon receipt of a
> PCRpt message from the PCC, it MUST generate a PCErr with error- type
> 19 (Invalid Operation), error-value 5 (Attempted LSP State Report if
>  active stateful PCE capability was not advertised) (see Section
> 8.5) and it SHOULD terminate the PCEP session."
> 
> Or does it mean that there is another way than PCRpt message for the
>  PCC to send LSP status reports to the PCE?
> 
> Jon> ACK.  I think that the statement in the draft is bogus and I 
> propose to delete this sentence from it.
> 
> =====
[JM] I do not think that the text is bogus:
- case 1: no advertised capability on update but advertised on report
(i.e. passive stateful) => no error message;
- case 2: no advertised capability on update nor report (i.e. stateless)
=> error.

> =====
> 
> [LM] Would it be useful to discover (using another TLV) whether the 
> PCE is an active/passive stateful PCE, as in IGP-based capabilities 
> discovery mechanism?
> 
> Jon> This can be inferred immediately from the U flag in the 
> STATEFUL-PCE-CAPABILITY TLV.  Passive mode is synonymous with not 
> sending / handling PCUpd messages.
> 
> =====
[JM] The mechanism is there, but section 7.1.1 may deserve an explicit
use of the "passive/active" terms, to make sure the capability
terminology is aligned with the vocabulary in the IGP section.


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Hi Julien

You are right, but it is *really easy* for the reader to confuse "stateful =
capability" with "update capability" and "active stateful capability".  Cas=
e in point: I just confused them in my reply to Lionel.

We should fix each of the three points below to make this clearer.

Cheers
Jon

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Subject: Re: [Pce] Review of draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-18

Jon, Lionel,

I believe Lionel got confused by the wording introduced in RFC 8051:
- no report, no update means stateless PCE;
- report, no update means passive stateful PCE;
- report and update means active (stateful) PCE.

More details below, [JM].

Thanks for the work,

Julien


Apr. 11, 2017 - Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com:
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20
> [LM] active/passive mode are not  advertized in PCEP. s/if active=20
> stateful PCE capability was not advertised/if stateful PCE capability=20
> was not advertised
>=20
> Jon> ACK
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
[JM] NACK! ;-)
Actually, the passive mode is advertised using the Stateful-capability-obje=
ct TLV with the U bit unset, the active mode by setting the U bit.

> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20
> Note that even if the update capability has not been advertised, a PCE=20
> can still accept LSP Status Reports from a PCC and build and maintain=20
> an up to date view of the state of the PCC's LSPs.
>=20
> [LM] I don't undersand. Is it not in contradiction with
>=20
> "If the PCEP Speaker on the PCE supports the extensions of this draft=20
> but did not advertise this capability, then upon receipt of a PCRpt=20
> message from the PCC, it MUST generate a PCErr with error- type
> 19 (Invalid Operation), error-value 5 (Attempted LSP State Report if =20
> active stateful PCE capability was not advertised) (see Section
> 8.5) and it SHOULD terminate the PCEP session."
>=20
> Or does it mean that there is another way than PCRpt message for the =20
> PCC to send LSP status reports to the PCE?
>=20
> Jon> ACK.  I think that the statement in the draft is bogus and I
> propose to delete this sentence from it.
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
[JM] I do not think that the text is bogus:
- case 1: no advertised capability on update but advertised on report (i.e.=
 passive stateful) =3D> no error message;
- case 2: no advertised capability on update nor report (i.e. stateless) =
=3D> error.

> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20
> [LM] Would it be useful to discover (using another TLV) whether the=20
> PCE is an active/passive stateful PCE, as in IGP-based capabilities=20
> discovery mechanism?
>=20
> Jon> This can be inferred immediately from the U flag in the
> STATEFUL-PCE-CAPABILITY TLV.  Passive mode is synonymous with not=20
> sending / handling PCUpd messages.
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
[JM] The mechanism is there, but section 7.1.1 may deserve an explicit use =
of the "passive/active" terms, to make sure the capability terminology is a=
ligned with the vocabulary in the IGP section.


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Hi Jon,

That looks fine to me. (Note though that now that I've escaped
from the IESG, what I think no longer matters:-)

Cheers,
S.

On 11/04/17 15:35, Jonathan Hardwick wrote:
> Hi Stephen
>=20
> Many thanks for this comment.  I'm picking up this thread and replying =
as PCE working group chair, as the authors are unavailable.  I apologise =
for the delay.
>=20
> Please see my proposed resolutions inline below, marked with "Jon>"
>=20
> Best regards
> Jon
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie]=20
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> To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> Cc: draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce@ietf.org; Julien Meuric <julien.meuric@=
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> Subject: Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-=
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> Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-18: No Objection
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> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.ht=
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>=20
>=20
> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
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>=20
>=20
>=20
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMMENT:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>=20
> In 10.1, some references seem to be needed to say how to do that authen=
tication and encryption. IIUC, that's a work in progress, or is that righ=
t? If so, when's it likely to be done and usable?
>=20
> Jon> You are correct - this is being specified in draft-ietf-pce-pceps.=
  That document is ready to be submitted to the IESG (we are only waiting=
 for the IPR poll to conclude) but draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce is likely =
to be published first.
> We already discussed how to handle this with draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sy=
nc-optimizations, which was approved for publication recently.  I think t=
hat we should handle it in a consistent way for draft-ietf-pce-stateful-p=
ce.  So I propose this change:
>=20
> OLD
>    As a general precaution, it is RECOMMENDED that these PCEP extension=
s
>    only be activated on authenticated and encrypted sessions across PCE=
s
>    and PCCs belonging to the same administrative authority.
> NEW
>    As a general precaution, it is RECOMMENDED that these PCEP extension=
s
>    only be activated on authenticated and encrypted sessions across PCE=
s
>    and PCCs belonging to the same administrative authority, using Trans=
port Layer
>    Security (TLS) [I-D.ietf-pce-pceps], as per the recommendations and
>    best current practices in [RFC7525].  An administrator could also ex=
pose the
>    speaker entity id as part of the certificate, so that the peer's ide=
ntity can be verified.
> END NEW
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    Hi Cyril, hi Adrian,<br>
    <br>
    Don't worry, even though we missed several datatracker cycles, the
    I-D isn't forgotten and a shepherd has been appointed: me. ;-)<br>
    <br>
    The chairs had decided to apply WFQ over the I-D processing queue.
    Considering the low pressure product implementers put on the
    interoperability along this I-D (feedback to the chairs welcome on
    that), it got preempted to free bandwidth for the stateful I-Ds and
    the associated codepoint clash. Now that these are with the IESG, I
    should be able to share my review soon (i.e., by next IETF).<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    <br>
    Julien<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Apr. 11, 2017 - <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cmargaria@juniper.net">cmargaria@juniper.net</a>:<br>
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          <p>Hi, </p>
          <p><br>
          </p>
          <p>From what I can recall, there was no comment pending.
            Grep'ing through my archives I found : the following <span
              style="font-size:12pt">last messages regarding the gmpls
              draft are :</span></p>
          <p><br>
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          <p>Other comments addressed : <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/3oswQvIe4THUtUSUnXwKfmfeVmg"
              class="x_OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk237193">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/3oswQvIe4THUtUSUnXwKfmfeVmg</a>,
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              class="x_OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk529057">https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-pce-0.pdf</a><br>
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          <p>WG comments addressed: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/vPZsnrCy4kh7H8VaMDz6I-XI8uw"
              class="x_OWAAutoLink" id="LPlnk172215">https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pce/vPZsnrCy4kh7H8VaMDz6I-XI8uw</a></p>
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          <p><br>
          </p>
          <p>The document status from the slides is Shepherd assigned.</p>
          <p><br>
          </p>
          <p>I will be happy to address any actions that I can complete
            on my side.</p>
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          <p>Cyril</p>
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            Adrian Farrel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk">&lt;adrian@olddog.co.uk&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 10, 2017 4:40:28 PM<br>
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          <div class="PlainText">Thanks Jon!<br>
            <br>
            Looks like I need to chivvy the authors of
            draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions.<br>
            <br>
            But, oh look! It has expired. A year ago!<br>
            <br>
            Wow! Any archaeologists out there want to dig through the
            mail archive to find<br>
            out what needed to be done?<br>
            <br>
            Thanks,<br>
            Adrian<br>
            <br>
            &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
            &gt; From: Jonathan Hardwick [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com">mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com</a>]<br>
            &gt; Sent: 10 April 2017 08:37<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Hi Adrian<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Thanks for checking.  This draft depends normatively on
            draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-<br>
            &gt; pcep-extensions, which I believe still has some actions
            to be completed.  Our<br>
            plan<br>
            &gt; is to advance both together.<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Cheers<br>
            &gt; Jon<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
            &gt; From: Pce [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
            On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel<br>
            &gt; Sent: 07 April 2017 18:33<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Hi,<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Did <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-wson-rwa-ext</a>
            disappear<br>
            &gt; down a crack?<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Looks like WG last call completed and the draft was
            updated.<br>
            &gt; Also the shepherd write-up was updated.<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Does the big red button need to be pressed to send this
            to the AD?<br>
            &gt; <br>
            &gt; Thanks,<br>
            &gt; Adrian<br>
            &gt; <br>
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Hi Julien, Jon,

Thank you for your feedback.
Please see below my answer/feedback (indicated with [LM2])

Regards,

Lionel
=20
> Hi Julien
>=20
> You are right, but it is *really easy* for the reader to confuse "stateful
> capability" with "update capability" and "active stateful capability".  C=
ase in
> point: I just confused them in my reply to Lionel.
>=20
> We should fix each of the three points below to make this clearer.

[LM2] I agree :)

> Jon, Lionel,
>=20
> I believe Lionel got confused by the wording introduced in RFC 8051:
> - no report, no update means stateless PCE;
> - report, no update means passive stateful PCE;
> - report and update means active (stateful) PCE.

[LM2] understood!
>=20
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >
> > [LM] active/passive mode are not  advertized in PCEP. s/if active
> > stateful PCE capability was not advertised/if stateful PCE capability
> > was not advertised
> >
> > Jon> ACK
> >
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> [JM] NACK! ;-)
> Actually, the passive mode is advertised using the Stateful-capability-ob=
ject TLV
> with the U bit unset, the active mode by setting the U bit.
>=20
[LM2] "il faut =EAtre sorti de Saint-Cyr pour comprendre" as we say in fren=
ch :)
Could be good to add something like "(as indicated by the U-bit clear in St=
ateful-capability-object)"

> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >
> > Note that even if the update capability has not been advertised, a PCE
> > can still accept LSP Status Reports from a PCC and build and maintain
> > an up to date view of the state of the PCC's LSPs.
> >
> > [LM] I don't undersand. Is it not in contradiction with
> >
> > "If the PCEP Speaker on the PCE supports the extensions of this draft
> > but did not advertise this capability, then upon receipt of a PCRpt
> > message from the PCC, it MUST generate a PCErr with error- type
> > 19 (Invalid Operation), error-value 5 (Attempted LSP State Report if
> > active stateful PCE capability was not advertised) (see Section
> > 8.5) and it SHOULD terminate the PCEP session."
> >
> > Or does it mean that there is another way than PCRpt message for the
> > PCC to send LSP status reports to the PCE?
> >
> > Jon> ACK.  I think that the statement in the draft is bogus and I
> > propose to delete this sentence from it.
> >
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> [JM] I do not think that the text is bogus:
> - case 1: no advertised capability on update but advertised on report (i.=
e. passive
> stateful) =3D> no error message;
> - case 2: no advertised capability on update nor report (i.e. stateless) =
=3D> error.

[LM2] After multiple readings and thanks to your explanation, I think I hav=
e understood. Am I correct saying that the PCE will accept LSP Status Repor=
ts from a PCC ONLY if the stateful PCE capability has been advertised (i.e.=
 Stateful Capability TLV with the 'LSP Update' Flag cleared)? If it is the =
case, is it really required to keep this text, as in the previous paragraph=
 we find the conditions to accept/reject reports from the PCC?
>=20
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >
> > [LM] Would it be useful to discover (using another TLV) whether the
> > PCE is an active/passive stateful PCE, as in IGP-based capabilities
> > discovery mechanism?
> >
> > Jon> This can be inferred immediately from the U flag in the
> > STATEFUL-PCE-CAPABILITY TLV.  Passive mode is synonymous with not
> > sending / handling PCUpd messages.
> >
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> [JM] The mechanism is there, but section 7.1.1 may deserve an explicit us=
e of
> the "passive/active" terms, to make sure the capability terminology is al=
igned
> with the vocabulary in the IGP section.

[LM2] I can only be agree with you :)


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Hi Lionel,

Thank you for following up. I think we're almost done. My answers below
as [JM2].

Julien


Apr. 12, 2017 - <lionel.morand@orange.com:

[snip]

>>> =====
>> [JM] NACK! ;-) Actually, the passive mode is advertised using the 
>> Stateful-capability-object TLV with the U bit unset, the active 
>> mode by setting the U bit.
>> 
> [LM2] "il faut Ãªtre sorti de Saint-Cyr pour comprendre" as we say in
>  french :)

[JM2] Let me check with my colleague next door... ;-)

> Could be good to add something like "(as indicated by the U-bit clear
> in Stateful-capability-object)"

[JM2] ACK!

> 
>>> =====
>>> 
>>> Note that even if the update capability has not been advertised,
>>>  a PCE can still accept LSP Status Reports from a PCC and build 
>>> and maintain an up to date view of the state of the PCC's LSPs.
>>> 
>>> [LM] I don't undersand. Is it not in contradiction with
>>> 
>>> "If the PCEP Speaker on the PCE supports the extensions of this 
>>> draft but did not advertise this capability, then upon receipt of
>>> a PCRpt message from the PCC, it MUST generate a PCErr with 
>>> error- type 19 (Invalid Operation), error-value 5 (Attempted LSP
>>>  State Report if active stateful PCE capability was not 
>>> advertised) (see Section 8.5) and it SHOULD terminate the PCEP 
>>> session."
>>> 
>>> Or does it mean that there is another way than PCRpt message for
>>>  the PCC to send LSP status reports to the PCE?
>>> 
>>> Jon> ACK.  I think that the statement in the draft is bogus and
>>> I propose to delete this sentence from it.
>>> 
>>> =====
>> [JM] I do not think that the text is bogus: - case 1: no advertised
>> capability on update but advertised on report (i.e. passive
>> stateful) => no error message; - case 2: no advertised capability
>> on update nor report (i.e. stateless) => error.
> [LM2] After multiple readings and thanks to your explanation, I think
> I have understood. Am I correct saying that the PCE will accept LSP
> Status Reports from a PCC ONLY if the stateful PCE capability has
> been advertised (i.e. Stateful Capability TLV with the 'LSP Update'
> Flag cleared)? 

[JM2] Almost... but not fully! Your main sentence is true, your
parenthesis is not. The latter should be rephrased as "i.e. inclusion of
the Stateful Capability TLV". Indeed, passive (report, no update) and
active (report + update) are two possible modes within stateful, i.e. we
do not care about the 'LSP Update' flag when talking about
Report/"stateful at large".

If it is the case, is it really required to keep this
> text, as in the previous paragraph we find the conditions to
> accept/reject reports from the PCC?

[JM2] AFAIU, the sentence clarifies the fact that an error on an update
attempt does not lead to an error on the report feature.

[JM2] Side note to the (RFC?) editor, on page 11: s/this draft/this
document/


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Everything is fine for me.
Thank you.

Regards,

Lionel

Le 13 avr. 2017 17:50, Julien Meuric <julien.meuric@orange.com> a =E9crit :
Hi Lionel,

Thank you for following up. I think we're almost done. My answers below
as [JM2].

Julien


Apr. 12, 2017 - <lionel.morand@orange.com:

[snip]

>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> [JM] NACK! ;-) Actually, the passive mode is advertised using the
>> Stateful-capability-object TLV with the U bit unset, the active
>> mode by setting the U bit.
>>
> [LM2] "il faut =EAtre sorti de Saint-Cyr pour comprendre" as we say in
>  french :)

[JM2] Let me check with my colleague next door... ;-)

> Could be good to add something like "(as indicated by the U-bit clear
> in Stateful-capability-object)"

[JM2] ACK!

>
>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>>
>>> Note that even if the update capability has not been advertised,
>>>  a PCE can still accept LSP Status Reports from a PCC and build
>>> and maintain an up to date view of the state of the PCC's LSPs.
>>>
>>> [LM] I don't undersand. Is it not in contradiction with
>>>
>>> "If the PCEP Speaker on the PCE supports the extensions of this
>>> draft but did not advertise this capability, then upon receipt of
>>> a PCRpt message from the PCC, it MUST generate a PCErr with
>>> error- type 19 (Invalid Operation), error-value 5 (Attempted LSP
>>>  State Report if active stateful PCE capability was not
>>> advertised) (see Section 8.5) and it SHOULD terminate the PCEP
>>> session."
>>>
>>> Or does it mean that there is another way than PCRpt message for
>>>  the PCC to send LSP status reports to the PCE?
>>>
>>> Jon> ACK.  I think that the statement in the draft is bogus and
>>> I propose to delete this sentence from it.
>>>
>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> [JM] I do not think that the text is bogus: - case 1: no advertised
>> capability on update but advertised on report (i.e. passive
>> stateful) =3D> no error message; - case 2: no advertised capability
>> on update nor report (i.e. stateless) =3D> error.
> [LM2] After multiple readings and thanks to your explanation, I think
> I have understood. Am I correct saying that the PCE will accept LSP
> Status Reports from a PCC ONLY if the stateful PCE capability has
> been advertised (i.e. Stateful Capability TLV with the 'LSP Update'
> Flag cleared)?

[JM2] Almost... but not fully! Your main sentence is true, your
parenthesis is not. The latter should be rephrased as "i.e. inclusion of
the Stateful Capability TLV". Indeed, passive (report, no update) and
active (report + update) are two possible modes within stateful, i.e. we
do not care about the 'LSP Update' flag when talking about
Report/"stateful at large".

If it is the case, is it really required to keep this
> text, as in the previous paragraph we find the conditions to
> accept/reject reports from the PCC?

[JM2] AFAIU, the sentence clarifies the fact that an error on an update
attempt does not lead to an error on the report feature.

[JM2] Side note to the (RFC?) editor, on page 11: s/this draft/this
document/


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<br>
Thank you for following up. I think we're almost done. My answers below<br>
as [JM2].<br>
<br>
Julien<br>
<br>
<br>
Apr. 12, 2017 - &lt;lionel.morand@orange.com:<br>
<br>
[snip]<br>
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
&gt;&gt; [JM] NACK! ;-) Actually, the passive mode is advertised using the =
<br>
&gt;&gt; Stateful-capability-object TLV with the U bit unset, the active <b=
r>
&gt;&gt; mode by setting the U bit.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt; [LM2] &quot;il faut =EAtre sorti de Saint-Cyr pour comprendre&quot; as=
 we say in<br>
&gt;&nbsp; french :)<br>
<br>
[JM2] Let me check with my colleague next door... ;-)<br>
<br>
&gt; Could be good to add something like &quot;(as indicated by the U-bit c=
lear<br>
&gt; in Stateful-capability-object)&quot;<br>
<br>
[JM2] ACK!<br>
<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Note that even if the update capability has not been advertise=
d,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; a PCE can still accept LSP Status Reports from a PCC and=
 build <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; and maintain an up to date view of the state of the PCC's LSPs=
.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; [LM] I don't undersand. Is it not in contradiction with<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;If the PCEP Speaker on the PCE supports the extensions o=
f this <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; draft but did not advertise this capability, then upon receipt=
 of<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; a PCRpt message from the PCC, it MUST generate a PCErr with <b=
r>
&gt;&gt;&gt; error- type 19 (Invalid Operation), error-value 5 (Attempted L=
SP<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; State Report if active stateful PCE capability was not <=
br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; advertised) (see Section 8.5) and it SHOULD terminate the PCEP=
 <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; session.&quot;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Or does it mean that there is another way than PCRpt message f=
or<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; the PCC to send LSP status reports to the PCE?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Jon&gt; ACK.&nbsp; I think that the statement in the draft is =
bogus and<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I propose to delete this sentence from it.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
&gt;&gt; [JM] I do not think that the text is bogus: - case 1: no advertise=
d<br>
&gt;&gt; capability on update but advertised on report (i.e. passive<br>
&gt;&gt; stateful) =3D&gt; no error message; - case 2: no advertised capabi=
lity<br>
&gt;&gt; on update nor report (i.e. stateless) =3D&gt; error.<br>
&gt; [LM2] After multiple readings and thanks to your explanation, I think<=
br>
&gt; I have understood. Am I correct saying that the PCE will accept LSP<br>
&gt; Status Reports from a PCC ONLY if the stateful PCE capability has<br>
&gt; been advertised (i.e. Stateful Capability TLV with the 'LSP Update'<br>
&gt; Flag cleared)? <br>
<br>
[JM2] Almost... but not fully! Your main sentence is true, your<br>
parenthesis is not. The latter should be rephrased as &quot;i.e. inclusion =
of<br>
the Stateful Capability TLV&quot;. Indeed, passive (report, no update) and<=
br>
active (report &#43; update) are two possible modes within stateful, i.e. w=
e<br>
do not care about the 'LSP Update' flag when talking about<br>
Report/&quot;stateful at large&quot;.<br>
<br>
If it is the case, is it really required to keep this<br>
&gt; text, as in the previous paragraph we find the conditions to<br>
&gt; accept/reject reports from the PCC?<br>
<br>
[JM2] AFAIU, the sentence clarifies the fact that an error on an update<br>
attempt does not lead to an error on the report feature.<br>
<br>
[JM2] Side note to the (RFC?) editor, on page 11: s/this draft/this<br>
document/<br>
<br>
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A comment on the minutes:

2) starts:
"Haomian gave an introduction to FlexE's background and definition by IEEE
802.3 and OIF (this is an overview, see the slides for the details)."

IEEE 802.3 is not defining FlexE. Looking at the slides, they say about the
same thing: "=E2=80=A2 Data Plane recommendaton has been defined in IEEE 80=
2.3 and
OIF;"

Both statements are misleading implying that IEEE 802.3 is actively
involved in defining FlexE. IEEE 802.3 defines Ethernet physical layers
(which are standards, not recommendations). OIF is defining a modification
to a subset of those physical layers (a FlexE shim) to create FlexE.

Regards,
Pat

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli <
daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> thanks for the useful and productive meeting.
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99ve uploaded the slides in the CCAMP page as well as the minutes=
 (thanks
> to Andy for putting them together)
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/98/session/ccamp
>
>
>
> The recordings can be found at the following link
>
> http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=3D
> IETF98_CCAMP_FlexE&chapter=3Dchapter_1
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Daniele & Nic
>
>
>
> *From:* Daniele Ceccarelli
> *Sent:* marted=C3=AC 28 marzo 2017 12:10
> *To:* Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>; pce@ietf.org;
> TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>; routing-discussion@ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org;
> ccamp@ietf.org
> *Cc:* Ignas Bagdonas <ibagdona@gmail.com>; draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk@
> ietf.org; N.Leymann@telekom.de
> *Subject:* RE: [CCAMP] FlexE side meeting
>
>
>
> =E2=80=A6and the agenda
>
>
>
> >> The agenda will be:
>
> >>
>
> >> 1. FlexE background and origins: Haomian Zheng
>
> >> 2. FlexE Technology Deep Dive:   Iftekhar Hussain
>
> >> 3. FlexE in the IETF:            Mach Chen
>
> >> 4. Open Mic
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org>] *O=
n
> Behalf Of *Daniele Ceccarelli
> *Sent:* marted=C3=AC 28 marzo 2017 12:00
> *To:* pce@ietf.org; TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>; routing-discussion@ietf.org;
> mpls@ietf.org; ccamp@ietf.org
> *Cc:* Ignas Bagdonas <ibagdona@gmail.com>; draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk@
> ietf.org; N.Leymann@telekom.de
> *Subject:* [CCAMP] FlexE side meeting
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> a reminder for the FlexE side meeting and the link to Meetecho:
>
>
>
> When: Tuesday 18:45-20:15
>
> Room: Zurich B
>
> Remote participation - Meetecho: http://www.meetecho.com/
> ietf98/CCAMP-FlexE
>
>
>
> BR
> Daniele, Nic, Loa
>
> _______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr">A comment on the minutes:=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>2) star=
ts:<br><div>&quot;Haomian gave an introduction to FlexE&#39;s background an=
d definition by IEEE 802.3 and OIF (this is an overview, see the slides for=
 the details).&quot;<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>IEEE 802.3 is not d=
efining FlexE. Looking at the slides, they say about the same thing: &quot;=
=E2=80=A2 Data Plane recommendaton has been defined in IEEE 802.3 and OIF;&=
quot;=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Both statements are misleading implyin=
g that IEEE 802.3 is actively involved in defining FlexE. IEEE 802.3 define=
s Ethernet physical layers (which are standards, not recommendations). OIF =
is defining a modification to a subset of those physical layers (a FlexE sh=
im) to create FlexE.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Pat<=
/div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed=
, Mar 29, 2017 at 9:27 AM, Daniele Ceccarelli <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com" target=3D"_blank">daniele.cecca=
relli@ericsson.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"IT" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72">
<div class=3D"m_-1801331138271950938WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi everyone,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">thanks for the useful and produ=
ctive meeting.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I=E2=80=99ve uploaded the slide=
s in the CCAMP page as well as the minutes (thanks to Andy for putting them=
 together)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/meeting/98/session/ccamp" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ie=
tf.org/<wbr>meeting/98/session/ccamp</a>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">The recordings can be found at =
the following link<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><a href=3D"http://recs.conf.mee=
techo.com/Playout/watch.jsp?recording=3DIETF98_CCAMP_FlexE&amp;chapter=3Dch=
apter_1" target=3D"_blank">http://recs.conf.meetecho.com/<wbr>Playout/watch=
.jsp?recording=3D<wbr>IETF98_CCAMP_FlexE&amp;chapter=3D<wbr>chapter_1</a>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Daniele &amp; Nic<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
>From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Daniele Ceccarelli
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> marted=C3=AC 28 marzo 2017 12:10<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniele Ceccarelli &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@eric=
sson.com" target=3D"_blank">daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.<wbr>com</a>&gt;; <=
a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce@ietf.org</a>; TEAS WG =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:teas@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">teas@ietf.org</a>&gt=
;; <a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">routing=
-discussion@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank=
">mpls@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">cc=
amp@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ignas Bagdonas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ibagdona@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">ibagdona@gmail.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:draft-izh-ccamp-f=
lexe-fwk@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk@<wbr>ietf.or=
g</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:N.Leymann@telekom.de" target=3D"_blank">N.Leymann@=
telekom.de</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [CCAMP] FlexE side meeting<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"m_-1801331138271950938MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=E2=80=A6and the agenda<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-1801331138271950938MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-1801331138271950938MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&gt;&gt; The agenda will be:<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"m_-1801331138271950938MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&gt;&gt;<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-1801331138271950938MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&gt;&gt; 1. FlexE background and origins: Haomian Zh=
eng<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-1801331138271950938MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&gt;&gt; 2. FlexE Technology Deep Dive:=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
Iftekhar Hussain<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"m_-1801331138271950938MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt=
"><span lang=3D"EN-US">&gt;&gt; 3. FlexE in the IETF:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mach Chen<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"m_-1801331138271950938MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt=
">&gt;&gt; 4. Open Mic<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
>From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> CCAMP [<a href=3D"mailto:ccamp-bounc=
es@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org</a><wbr>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Daniele Ceccarelli<br>
<b>Sent:</b> marted=C3=AC 28 marzo 2017 12:00<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pce@ietf.org</=
a>; TEAS WG &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:teas@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">teas@iet=
f.org</a>&gt;;
<a href=3D"mailto:routing-discussion@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">routing-di=
scussion@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:mpls@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">
mpls@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:ccamp@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">ccam=
p@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ignas Bagdonas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ibagdona@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">ibagdona@gmail.com</a>&gt;;
<a href=3D"mailto:draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">dra=
ft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk@<wbr>ietf.org</a>;
<a href=3D"mailto:N.Leymann@telekom.de" target=3D"_blank">N.Leymann@telekom=
.de</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] FlexE side meeting<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt">Hi everyone,<u></u><u><=
/u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">a =
reminder for the FlexE side meeting and the link to Meetecho:<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Wh=
en: Tuesday 18:45-20:15<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Ro=
om: Zurich B<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Re=
mote participation - Meetecho:
<a href=3D"http://www.meetecho.com/ietf98/CCAMP-FlexE" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://www.meetecho.com/<wbr>ietf98/CCAMP-FlexE</a>
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:70.8pt"><span lang=3D"EN-US">BR=
<br>
Daniele, Nic, Loa<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>

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Yes/support.

Young

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
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Subject: [Pce] Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03

All,

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-cod=
epoints-03 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/


Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.



The poll ends on Monday, April 24.



Many thanks,
Jon


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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 10, 2017 5:39 AM<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
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document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/">https://datatracker.ietf=
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Subject: Re: [Pce] Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-0=
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Yes/support.

Young

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 5:39 AM
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xp-codepoints@ietf.org<mailto:draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints@ietf.org>
Subject: [Pce] Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03

All,

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-cod=
epoints-03 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/<https=
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Jon


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 Behalf Of
</b>Leeyoung<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 14, 2017 11:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Hardwick &lt;Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com&gt;; pce@=
ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints@ietf.or=
g<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pce] Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codep=
oints-03<o:p></o:p></p>
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.org">mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Hardwick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 10, 2017 5:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce-chairs@ietf.org">pce-chairs@ietf.org</a>; =
<a href=3D"mailto:draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints@ietf.org">
draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pce] Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoint=
s-03<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
 poll on making draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03 a PCE working group =
document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://urldefense.p=
roofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Ddhody-2=
Dpce-2Dpcep-2Dexp-2Dcodepoints_&amp;d=3DDwMFAg&amp;c=3DLFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvj=
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Dear Jon,

I am not aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pce-pceps.

Best Regards,

=D3scar

De: Jonathan Hardwick <Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com<mailto:Jonathan.Har=
dwick@metaswitch.com>>
Fecha: martes, 11 de abril de 2017, 6:50
Para: "draft-ietf-pce-pceps@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-pce-pceps@ietf.org>"=
 <draft-ietf-pce-pceps@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-pce-pceps@ietf.org>>
CC: Cyril Margaria <cmargaria@juniper.net<mailto:cmargaria@juniper.net>>, "=
pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>" <pce@ietf.org<mailto:pce@ietf.org>>
Asunto: Final IPR check for draft-ietf-pce-pceps
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Nuevo env=EDo para: <sunseawq@huawei.com<mailto:sunseawq@huawei.com>>, <dhr=
uv.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com>>, <diego.r.lopez@telefonica.=
com<mailto:diego.r.lopez@telefonica.com>>, Oscar Gonzalez de Dios <oscar.go=
nzalezdedios@telefonica.com<mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>>
Fecha de nuevo env=EDo: martes, 11 de abril de 2017, 6:50

Dear authors


Could you please send an email to the PCE mailing list saying whether you a=
re aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pce-pceps and, if so, if it =
has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs 3979, 4879,=
 3669 and 5378 for more details.)  If you are not aware of any IPR that app=
lies, please reply saying =93I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this=
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A reply is required from each of you before we can proceed.

Many thanks
Jon


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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Fecha: </span>martes, 11 de abril de 2017,=
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for MPLS-TE LSP Automatic Bandwidth Adjustment with Stateful PCE
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Udayasree Palle
                          Ravi Singh
                          Rakesh Gandhi
                          Luyuan Fang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-auto-bandwidth-04.txt
	Pages           : 29
	Date            : 2017-04-17

Abstract:
   The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides
   mechanisms for Path Computation Elements (PCEs) to perform path
   computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests.

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Dear Zafar Ali, Daniel King, Fabien Verhaeghe, Tomonori Takeda, Julien Meuric, Quintin Zhao:


An IPR disclosure that pertains to your RFC entitled "Extensions to the
Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) for Point-to-Multipoint
Traffic Engineering Label Switched Paths" (RFC6006) was submitted to the
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Dear Quintin Zhao, Dhruv Dhody, Ramanjaneya Reddy Palleti, Daniel King:


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">You are ri=
ght, two work are complementary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The PCE-in=
itiated SFP instantiation signaling defined in draft-wu-pce-traffic-steerin=
g-sfc-11 can be used to exchanged SFP information between
 PCE server and SFC Classifier.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">BGP Contro=
l plane defined in draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane can be used to exc=
hange SFP information or association between RD and SFP ID
 between the controller and SFFs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">In additio=
n, such BGP Control plane can be used to exchange SF Instance related infor=
mation, not sure whether it is communicated between SF host
 node and the controller or between SF host node SFF node<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Here is th=
e proposed change to section 7 of draft-wu-pce-traffic-steering-sfc-11<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">=A1=B0<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">7.&nbsp; =
SFP Instantiation Signaling and Forwarding Considerations<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nb=
sp; The PCE-initiated SFP instantiation signaling described in this<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt"><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; document is exchanged =
between PCE server and SFC Classifier and
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;mso-para-margin-left:1.0=
gd;text-indent:-6.0pt">
<span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">does not assume any specific mec=
hanism to exchange SFP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nb=
sp; information(e.g.,path identification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt"><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; information,metadata[I=
-D.ietf-sfc-nsh]) between SFFs or between SFF and SF,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;mso-para-margin-left:1.5=
gd"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">or between the controller an=
d SFF and establish SFP in the data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nb=
sp; plane throughout a SFC domain.&nbsp; For example, such mechanism can re=
ly<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt"><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nbsp; upon the use of the SF=
C Encapsulation defined in [I-D.ietf-sfc-nsh] to exchange
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;mso-para-margin-left:1.5=
gd"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">SFP information between SFFs=
 or reply upon the use of BGP Control plane defined in
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;mso-para-margin-left:1.5=
gd"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">[I-D.</span><span lang=3D"EN=
-US">
<span style=3D"color:black">ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane] to exchange SF=
P information between the
<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:18.0pt;mso-para-margin-left:1.5=
gd"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Controller and SFF.<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nb=
sp; Likewise, [I-D.ietf-teas-pce-central-control] can use the signaling<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nb=
sp; mechanism described in this draft to enforce SFC-inferred traffic<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nb=
sp; engineering policies and provide load balancing between service<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nb=
sp; function nodes. The approach that relies upon the Segment Routing<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nb=
sp; technique [I-D.ietf-pce-segment-routing] can also take advantage of<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nb=
sp; the signaling mechanism described in this document to support Service<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nb=
sp; Path instantiation, which does not require any additional specific<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;&nb=
sp; extension to the Segment Routing machinery.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">=A1=B1<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Let me kno=
w if this change addresses your comment?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">-Qin<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=
=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt"> Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org]
</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B4=FA=B1=ED </span></b><span la=
ng=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Qin Wu<br>
</span><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4<span la=
ng=3D"EN-US">:</span></span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt"> 2017</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">=C4=EA<span lang=3D"EN-US=
">3</span>=D4=C2<span lang=3D"EN-US">29</span>=C8=D5<span lang=3D"EN-US"> 8=
:04<br>
</span><b>=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"=
EN-US"> pce@ietf.org; adrian<br>
</span><b>=D6=F7=CC=E2<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> [Pce] </span>=B4=F0=B8=B4<span lang=3D"EN-US">: Update of draft-wu-pce-tr=
affic-steering-sfc-11<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Adrian:<br>
Good&nbsp;feedback&nbsp;and&nbsp;happy&nbsp;to&nbsp;see&nbsp;your&nbsp;prop=
osal,:-)<br>
<br>
-Qin<br>
Sent&nbsp;from&nbsp;HUAWEI&nbsp;AnyOffice<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"line-height:15.0pt"><b><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.5pt">=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA
</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">adrian<o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"line-height:15.0pt"><b><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.5pt">=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB=A3=BA
</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">Qin Wu; <a href=
=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">
pce@ietf.org</a>; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"line-height:15.0pt"><b><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.5pt">=D6=F7=CC=E2=A3=BA
</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">RE: [Pce] Update=
 of draft-wu-pce-traffic-steering-sfc-11<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"line-height:15.0pt"><b><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.5pt">=CA=B1=BC=E4=A3=BA
</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt">2017-03-28 18:10=
:27<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:15.0pt"><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thanks for=
 the update, Qin.</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">As I said =
to you in private conversation, I think this is good work, in scope for the=
 WG, and useful.</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The high r=
evision number of the document reflects, I believe, that you saw the future=
 and started the work quite a bit earlier than anyone was
 ready for. I think we are ready now.</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p=
></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">The one (s=
mall) thing I mentioned that I would like to see added to the draft is a sm=
all section that relates this work to draft-ietf-bess-nsh-bgp-control-plane=
.
 It seems to me that everything is compatible and all we need to do is desc=
ribe briefly how the pieces it together.</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">If you lik=
e, I can suggest text.</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thanks,</s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Adrian</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</sp=
an><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;"> Pce [<a href=3D"mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:p=
ce-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Qin Wu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 28 March 2017 00:42<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">pce@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Pce] Update of draft-wu-pce-traffic-steering-sfc-11</span>=
<span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Hi, All:</span><span lang=3D"EN-G=
B"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Didn't get time to introduce PCEP=
 extension for SFC support:</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Here is the update of
<a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wu-pce-traffic-steering-sfc-11=
">draft-wu-pce-traffic-steering-sfc-11</a>,
</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/p=
roceedings/98/slides/slides-98-pce-42-pcep-extensions-for-sfc-00.pdf">https=
://www.ietf.org/proceedings/98/slides/slides-98-pce-42-pcep-extensions-for-=
sfc-00.pdf</a></span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">This draft provides PCEP extensio=
n to address Path computation and classification requirements defined in RF=
C7665 and
</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">I-D.ietf-sfc-control-plane. It is=
 also&nbsp;aligned with SFC control plane and teas WG pce central control d=
rafts.</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">This draft has been around severa=
l IETF meetings and became stable when several dependent documents have bee=
n solid as basis.</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Thanks all for your replies.  This WG adoption poll has ended, with the res=
ult that the document will be adopted by the PCE working group.

Authors, please resubmit this document as draft-ietf-pce-pcep-exp-codepoint=
s-00 (with no other changes).

Best regards
Jon


From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
Sent: 10 April 2017 11:39
To: pce@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints@ietf.org
Subject: Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03

All,

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-cod=
epoints-03 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/


Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.



The poll ends on Monday, April 24.



Many thanks,
Jon


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks all for your re=
plies.&nbsp; This WG adoption poll has ended, with the result that the docu=
ment will be adopted by the PCE working group.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Authors, please resubm=
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anges).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Best regards<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Jon<o:p></o:p></span><=
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e:EN-GB">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"mso-fareast-language=
:EN-GB"> Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 April 2017 11:39<br>
<b>To:</b> pce@ietf.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints@ietf.or=
g<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03<o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is the start of a two week poll on making draft=
-dhody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-03 a PCE working group document.<o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dh=
ody-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-=
pce-pcep-exp-codepoints/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Please review the draft and send an email to the =
list indicating &#8220;yes/support&#8221; or &#8220;no/do not support&#8221=
;. &nbsp;If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbsp; If yes, please =
also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see addressed once
 the document is a WG document.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">The poll ends on Monday, April 24.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jon<o:p></o:p></p>
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF.

        Title           : Experimental Codepoint Allocation for Path Computation Element communication Protocol (PCEP)
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Daniel King
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-pcep-exp-codepoints-00.txt
	Pages           : 6
	Date            : 2017-04-24

Abstract:
   IANA assigns values to the Path Computation Element (PCE)
   communication Protocol (PCEP) parameters (messages, objects, TLVs).
   IANA established a new top-level registry to contain all PCEP
   codepoints and sub-registries.  The allocation policy for each new
   registry is by IETF Consensus.

   This document seeks to mark some codepoints for experimental usage of
   PCEP.



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Hi,

Yes, I am aware of IPR and has been disclosed and updated in the IPR system=
.

Regards,
Dhruv

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: 10 April 2017 17:10
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Subject: [Pce] IPR on draft-ietf-pce-rfc6006bis

Hi authors

I have a few actions that I need you to take on IPR before I can submit thi=
s draft for publication.

I see that there were two IPR disclosures against RFC 6006.  I assume that =
these also apply to draft-ietf-pce-rfc6006bis.  Please could you update the=
 IPR system to reflect that?

Please could you confirm whether you are aware of any other IPR that applie=
s to this draft, and if so, that a disclosure has been made?

When I run idnits on the draft, it spits out this warning:

=3D=3D The document seems to contain a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378 work, but=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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isclosures against RFC 6006.&nbsp; I assume that these also apply to draft-=
ietf-pce-rfc6006bis.&nbsp; Please could you update the IPR system to reflec=
t that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Please could you confirm whethe=
r you are aware of any other IPR that applies to this draft, and if so, tha=
t a disclosure has been made?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">When I run idnits on the draft,=
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF.

        Title           : PCEP Extensions for MPLS-TE LSP Automatic Bandwidth Adjustment with Stateful PCE
        Authors         : Dhruv Dhody
                          Udayasree Palle
                          Ravi Singh
                          Rakesh Gandhi
                          Luyuan Fang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-auto-bandwidth-05.txt
	Pages           : 31
	Date            : 2017-04-25

Abstract:
   The Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) provides
   mechanisms for Path Computation Elements (PCEs) to perform path
   computations in response to Path Computation Clients (PCCs) requests.

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All,

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-dhody-pce-applicabilit=
y-actn-02 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn/


Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.



The poll ends on Tuesday, May 9.



Many thanks,
Jon



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Yes/support.

Young (as co-author)

From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 11:26 AM
To: pce@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn@ietf.org
Subject: Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn-02

All,

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-dhody-pce-applicabilit=
y-actn-02 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn/


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rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
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ed once the document is a WG document.



The poll ends on Tuesday, May 9.



Many thanks,
Jon



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<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 25, 2017 11:26 AM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn@ietf.org=
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=A2=C8=ED=D1=C5=BA=DA&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Pce [<a href=3D"mailto=
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quot;sans-serif&quot;">=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span=
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n lang=3D"EN-US">4</span>=D4=C2<span lang=3D"EN-US">26</span>=C8=D5<span la=
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EN-US"> <a href=3D"mailto:pce@ietf.org">
pce@ietf.org</a><br>
</span><b>=B3=AD=CB=CD<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> <a href=3D"mailto:draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn@ietf.org">
draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn@ietf.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:pce-chai=
rs@ietf.org">
pce-chairs@ietf.org</a><br>
</span><b>=D6=F7=CC=E2<span lang=3D"EN-US">:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"=
> [Pce] Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn-02<o:p></o:p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is the start of a two week=
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ocument.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.=
ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn/">https://datatracker.ietf.=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Please review the draft and =
send an email to the list indicating =A1=B0yes/support=A1=B1 or =A1=B0no/do=
 not support=A1=B1. &nbsp;If indicating no, please state your reasons.&nbsp=
; If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to
 see addressed once the document is a WG document.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The poll ends on Tuesday, Ma=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Many thanks,<o:p></o:p></spa=
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Hi Jon,

yes/support

BR
Daniele

From: Jonathan Hardwick [mailto:Jonathan.Hardwick@metaswitch.com]
Sent: marted=EC 25 aprile 2017 18:26
To: pce@ietf.org
Cc: pce-chairs@ietf.org; draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn@ietf.org
Subject: Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn-02

All,

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-dhody-pce-applicabilit=
y-actn-02 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn/


Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
If yes, please also feel free to provide comments you'd like to see address=
ed once the document is a WG document.



The poll ends on Tuesday, May 9.



Many thanks,
Jon



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Daniele&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
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<br>
<b>Sent:</b> marted=EC 25 aprile 2017 18:26<br>
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Yes / Support.

Regards,
Dhruv (co-author)

From: Pce [mailto:pce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Hardwick
Sent: 25 April 2017 21:56
To: pce@ietf.org
Cc: draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn@ietf.org; pce-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [Pce] Poll for adoption: draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn-02

All,

This is the start of a two week poll on making draft-dhody-pce-applicabilit=
y-actn-02 a PCE working group document.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dhody-pce-applicability-actn/


Please review the draft and send an email to the list indicating "yes/suppo=
rt" or "no/do not support".  If indicating no, please state your reasons.  =
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ed once the document is a WG document.



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Path Computation Element of the IETF.

        Title           : Conveying path setup type in PCEP messages
        Authors         : Siva Sivabalan
                          Jeff Tantsura
                          Ina Minei
                          Robert Varga
                          Jon Hardwick
	Filename        : draft-ietf-pce-lsp-setup-type-04.txt
	Pages           : 8
	Date            : 2017-04-26

Abstract:
   A Path Computation Element can compute traffic engineering paths (TE
   paths) through a network that are subject to various constraints.
   Currently, TE paths are label switched paths (LSPs) which are set up
   using the RSVP-TE signaling protocol.  However, other TE path setup
   methods are possible within the PCE architecture.  This document
   proposes an extension to PCEP to allow support for different path
   setup methods over a given PCEP session.



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