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Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:25:30 +0000 Received: from davidPC ([67.189.235.106]) by omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id h9RV1h00e2JQnJT3c9RVFc; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 21:25:29 +0000 From: "David Harrington" To: Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 17:25:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_014A_01CC8383.BC6D5CE0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acx1p83SvuomhflHTD2ovtWk+fc/jgN/WS9g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2001:1890:123a::1:1e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tsv-chairs@tools.ietf.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ietfdbh@comcast.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on merlot.tools.ietf.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, SPF_NEUTRAL,T_FILL_THIS_FORM_SHORT autolearn=no version=3.3.2 Subject: FW: Nomcom 2011-2012: Second Call for Nominations X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) List-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_014A_01CC8383.BC6D5CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please distribute this request to your WGs. David Harrington Director, IETF Transport Area ietfdbh@comcast.net (preferred for ietf) dbharrington@huaweisymantec.com +1 603 828 1401 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of NomCom Chair Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 10:06 PM To: IETF Announcement list Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Nomcom 2011-2012: Second Call for Nominations Hi All, We are halfway through the nomination period (it ends on October 2, 2011) and we need more nominees than we have received so far. We appreciate the folks that have taken the time to nominate people and those who have accepted so far. But the fact remains that the number of nominations have been below average and the acceptance rates of those nominated has also been low. We need **YOUR** input and participation! We cannot properly execute the task of selecting the best candidates for these positions with so few nominations and acceptances. So, please consider making nominations for the open positions, in particular those for which we have so few nominations it takes just a few minutes of your time. Right now, we just need the names/email addresses. Why do we need more nominations? Well, even if you think a willing incumbent is doing a very good job and should be returned, his or her ability to serve again might be impacted by unforeseen circumstances between now and March. NomCom needs to consider multiple nominees to be prepared in the event one or more candidates is unable to serve come next March and to ensure we have chosen the best candidate. There are several ways you can help the Nomcom - You can nominate yourself. - You can nominate someone you know whom you think would do a good job. Don't worry about whether they might already be nominated. We would much prefer to receive the same nomination several times rather than miss a good person we should consider. How to submit Nominations: -------------------------- The list of positions we need to fill, and the provided Job Descriptions, and forms for nominations, can be found in the call for nominations at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/ann/nomcom/3049/ You can enter a nomination by going to the following URL: https://www.ietf.org/group/nomcom/2011/nominate You can also nominate someone by sending an email to nomcom11@ietf.org and giving us their name, email address and the open position you are nominating them for. We will take care of the rest. If you are asked for a user name and password, use an existing ietf login and password. If you need a login and password, request one from the following URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/create/ Open List: ---------- As you already know, NomCom 2011-2012 will follow the policy for "Open Disclosure of Willing Nominees" described in RFC 5680. Feedback Collection: -------------------- The open list is currently available on the Nomcom page and the entire community is invited to provide feedback on all nominees. You can provide your comments on all willing nominees at the following URL: https://www.ietf.org/group/nomcom/2011/input/ Suresh Krishnan Chair, NomCom 2011-2012 nomcom-chair@ietf.org suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com ------=_NextPart_000_014A_01CC8383.BC6D5CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT00483.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT00483.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _______________________________________________ IETF-Announce mailing list IETF-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce ------=_NextPart_000_014A_01CC8383.BC6D5CE0-- --=-jiLt4IYRqk6RxcJI6yya-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Oct 23 08:27:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F3F21F8AC3; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:27:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.58 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.58 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.019, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XchsMwnsmDI3; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970D721F8A70; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:27:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 3.61 Message-ID: <20111023152709.26134.68815.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:27:09 -0700 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: [PCN] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10.txt X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:27:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notific= ation Working Group of the IETF. Title : PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Controlled Load (CL)= Mode of Operation Author(s) : Anna Charny Fortune Huang Georgios Karagiannis Michael Menth Tom Taylor Filename : draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10.txt Pages : 32 Date : 2011-10-23 Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using three PCN marking states, not- marked, threshold-marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Controlled Load (CL) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10.txt From tom111.taylor@bell.net Sun Oct 23 09:04:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020E221F8A80 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:04:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.258 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.258 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.049, BAYES_05=-1.11, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CV6lUrh8aKIt for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blu0-omc3-s30.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s30.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.105]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7852E21F87D9 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BLU0-SMTP97 ([65.55.116.72]) by blu0-omc3-s30.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:04:45 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [69.158.64.45] X-Originating-Email: [tom111.taylor@bell.net] Message-ID: Received: from [192.168.2.17] ([69.158.64.45]) by BLU0-SMTP97.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:04:45 -0700 Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:04:43 -0400 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pcn , David Harrington Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2011 16:04:45.0254 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B5DCE60:01CC919D] Subject: [PCN] Submitted draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10.txt X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 16:04:50 -0000 OK, folks, I've finally completed the operations and management considerations section of the CL edge behaviour draft. Please have a look. The basic changes are: -- corrected definition of T-fail and added definition of T-crit -- fixed a small bug in the reset behaviour for T-maxsuppress -- added new operations and management considerations section (Sec. 5) -- removed some text from the rest of the document into the new section (details below). Comment: deploying this stuff would be a huge job! Presumably the savings in bandwidth to be installed would pay for it? Note that I added references to the RSVP generic aggregation document. I expect that document to describe in detail how the edge nodes build up information on ingress-egress-aggregates. I will provide detailed comments on that draft on the TSVWG list. One other thing: the draft currently has no mention of 3in1. Is there any outstanding action? Note that the current intended status of the draft is Informational, not Experimental. Tom Taylor Detailed changes: - Section 1.1: T-fail and T-crit as noted above. - Section 3.2.1: took out forward reference to section 3.5 regarding T-meas. In the event, that was still the right reference, but it doesn't matter. - Section 3.3.1: moved the note on lack of sensitivity to the value CLE-limit to the O&M section. - Section 3.3.3: changed "alarm" to "notification" (two places), since the "alarm" log severity did not seem applicable (see new Section 5.2.1) - Section 3.5: fixed the reset behaviour for T-maxsuppress as noted above Also replaced "alarm" by "notify" in two places. - Section 3.5.1: s/alarms/notifications/ - Old section 4 on identifying ingress and egress node: replaced by text in new Section 5.1.2 - Old section 5.2.1 (new 4.2.1): last paragraph, dropped the unnecessary and dubious statement in parentheses - Old Section 5.4 (new 4.4) (PHB parameters): replaced the content with a forward reference to the O&M section - Added normative references to the Diffserv MIB and SYSLOG, informative reference to draft- -tsvwg-rsvp-pcn From karagian@cs.utwente.nl Sun Oct 23 12:40:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F1121F8A91 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:40:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.194 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.194 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.698, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j6Fb6Z79Nnce for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl (denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.11]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AAA021F8A55 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.cs.utwente.nl (janus.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.26]) by denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id p9NJa2HQ020656; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 21:36:02 +0200 (MEST) Received: from 80.60.223.107 (auth. user karagian@imap1.ewi.utwente.nl) by webmail.cs.utwente.nl with HTTP; Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:40:11 +0000 To: "Tom Taylor" , "pcn" , "David Harrington" Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:40:11 +0000 X-Mailer: IlohaMail/0.8.13 (On: webmail.cs.utwente.nl) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Georgios Karagiannis" Bounce-To: "Georgios Karagiannis" Errors-To: "Georgios Karagiannis" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 130.89.10.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0rc3 (denhaag.ewi.utwente.nl [130.89.10.11]); Sun, 23 Oct 2011 21:36:13 +0200 (MEST) Subject: Re: [PCN] Submitted draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-10.txt X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:40:03 -0000 Hi Tom, Thank you very much! I will wait for your comments on the RSVP generic aggregation document. Best regards, Georgios On 10/23/2011, "Tom Taylor" wrote: >OK, folks, I've finally completed the operations and management >considerations section of the CL edge behaviour draft. Please have a look. > >The basic changes are: > -- corrected definition of T-fail and added definition of T-crit > -- fixed a small bug in the reset behaviour for T-maxsuppress > -- added new operations and management considerations section (Sec. 5) > -- removed some text from the rest of the document into the new >section (details below). > >Comment: deploying this stuff would be a huge job! Presumably the >savings in bandwidth to be installed would pay for it? > >Note that I added references to the RSVP generic aggregation document. I >expect that document to describe in detail how the edge nodes build up >information on ingress-egress-aggregates. I will provide detailed >comments on that draft on the TSVWG list. > >One other thing: the draft currently has no mention of 3in1. Is there >any outstanding action? Note that the current intended status of the >draft is Informational, not Experimental. > >Tom Taylor > >Detailed changes: > >- Section 1.1: T-fail and T-crit as noted above. >- Section 3.2.1: took out forward reference to section 3.5 regarding >T-meas. In the event, that was still the right reference, but it doesn't >matter. >- Section 3.3.1: moved the note on lack of sensitivity to the value >CLE-limit to the O&M section. >- Section 3.3.3: changed "alarm" to "notification" (two places), since >the "alarm" log severity did not seem applicable (see new Section 5.2.1) >- Section 3.5: fixed the reset behaviour for T-maxsuppress as noted above > Also replaced "alarm" by "notify" in two places. >- Section 3.5.1: s/alarms/notifications/ >- Old section 4 on identifying ingress and egress node: replaced by text >in new Section 5.1.2 >- Old section 5.2.1 (new 4.2.1): last paragraph, dropped the unnecessary >and dubious statement in parentheses >- Old Section 5.4 (new 4.4) (PHB parameters): replaced the content with >a forward reference to the O&M section >- Added normative references to the Diffserv MIB and SYSLOG, informative >reference to draft- -tsvwg-rsvp-pcn > > >_______________________________________________ >PCN mailing list >PCN@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn