From slblake@petri-meat.com Wed May 2 06:40:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40F621F85D3 for ; Wed, 2 May 2012 06:40:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QUqXL25-77N9 for ; Wed, 2 May 2012 06:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elom.tchmachines.com (elom.tchmachines.com [208.76.80.198]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0728721F84F1 for ; Wed, 2 May 2012 06:40:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=petri-meat.com; s=default; h=Mime-Version:Message-ID:Content-Type:Date:To:From:Subject; bh=hFy9Sfsjj72i+5189gxmMvmrKfr+Tp9Q7bt8bwHb5LE=; b=lm4XYidlqhnJxXGg6BjMgYV4gywzYgERS4rscMOev1w+8WMJH7jtMw2PGIjZL8ikCV4CQ7SoBoA6qou5NBU6qLf2xrijlymy+a3v3ye1cxiKlGfcpyQy8i6rw9Zr+f0h; Received: from cpe-174-097-233-186.nc.res.rr.com ([174.97.233.186]:46995) by elom.tchmachines.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SPZnO-0007qo-RM for pcn@ietf.org; Wed, 02 May 2012 09:40:43 -0400 From: Steven Blake To: pcn Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 09:40:46 -0400 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-qpQOHvePoqpFblRV/XYa" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3 (3.0.3-1.fc15) Message-ID: <1335966046.12731.7.camel@tachyon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elom.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - petri-meat.com Subject: [PCN] **DRAFT** PCN IETF 83 minutes X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 13:40:47 -0000 --=-qpQOHvePoqpFblRV/XYa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PCN, Apologies for taking so long to get these posted. Please review ASAP. Regards, // Steve --=-qpQOHvePoqpFblRV/XYa Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pcn-ietf85-minutes.draft.txt" Content-Type: text/plain; name="pcn-ietf85-minutes.draft.txt"; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BFCongestion and Pre-Congestion Notification WG (pcn) IETF 83 (Paris) Meeting **DRAFT** Minutes CHAIRs: Scott Bradner Steven Blake WEDNESDAY, March 28, 2012 1510-1610 Afternoon Session II 212/213 Steve Blake opened the meeting at 3:10 PM, presented the Note Well slide, provided the meeting agenda, and a WG status update. 1/ Bob Briscoe =E2=80=93 3-in-1 coding ID IESG requested WG review of new section on ingress behavior=20 PS =E2=80=93 obsoletes baseline encoding RFC 5696 reviewed behavior & changes to ID added check for case of PCN and ECN capable & moved behavior from appendix change policing if packet arrived with PCN marking =E2=80=93 remark to non= -PCN recommended hardware default marking is 000000 Tom Taylor =E2=80=93 why =E2=80=9CSHOULD log=E2=80=9D if policing remarks a= packet ? Bob =E2=80=93 change =E2=80=9CSHOULD=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9CMAY=E2=80=9D ? Tom - OK Ruediger Geib =E2=80=93 that case is actually one that should not happen = =E2=80=93 only=20 misconfiguration or attack =E2=80=93 thus SHOULD is better Georgios Karagiannis =E2=80=93 PCN ingress behavior =E2=80=93 what happens = if flow rejected? Bob =E2=80=93 local option =E2=80=93 also refer to edge behavior ID Bob =E2=80=93 things to be added to 3-in-1 need to take into account MPLS =E2=80=93 tunneling could be IP-in-IP or MP= LS Ruediger =E2=80=93 not sure if it will work if penultimate hop popping is i= n use =E2=80=93=20 needs more thought Georgios =E2=80=93 bullet two on slide 3 =E2=80=93 deals with remarking pac= ket =E2=80=93 needs more clarity in draft for the case where the border is remarking packets and=20 remarking needs to be done before logic in Bob=E2=80=99s slide Steve =E2=80=93 Bob to send note to PCN list on changes he will make then d= o a new ID & we will last call it before letting IESG know discusses responsed to 2/ Tom Taylor =E2=80=93 on edge behavior IDs change reference in IDs from baseline to 3-in-1? Steve =E2=80=93 hum in room =E2=80=93 consensus to change the reference Tom =E2=80=93 current IP bias =E2=80=93 should he do a review to see if MPL= S OK? Ruediger =E2=80=93 leave it as it is =E2=80=93 MPLS can come later Bob =E2=80=93 only section on internal node behavior needs to be changed = =E2=80=93 just note=20 that the text should note an IP assumption? Tom =E2=80=93 will read through and report to list Tom =E2=80=93 known cut & paste error in SM ID =E2=80=93 will fix Tom =E2=80=93 took out a MUST in response to IESG comment =E2=80=93 propose= to restore MUST to guarantee deployability =20 Steve =E2=80=93 will revise IDs & provide to IESG=20 WG will be closed after documents are published 3/ Georgios =E2=80=93 noted RSVP ID being discussed in tsvwg =E2=80=93 good= support Meeting adjourned at 3:55 pm. --=-qpQOHvePoqpFblRV/XYa-- From tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com Wed May 2 12:48:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AB021F84FB for ; Wed, 2 May 2012 12:48:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.455 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.455 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.144, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xe2WsLiVdP6k for ; Wed, 2 May 2012 12:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D5721F84F8 for ; Wed, 2 May 2012 12:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lagj5 with SMTP id j5so845842lag.31 for ; Wed, 02 May 2012 12:48:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-antivirus :x-antivirus-status; bh=rSsODv6QXNnQYNxwlZR8wJj3cP1OSU2oUfQUnIY+r1A=; b=MjP4oTYebXbEtKu9fCvKIav/VMH/EwPriNv2i5QJ5zviZI6ALtZObb5y5E/P8Zzvdk lRgHairTpjsGOitQB+Bx8sphQyYlhH+J4PW90kBtWRqYcyXLpTlk6XH9JIzp/ZWUMGhf vdBxkRE4PRJeA2Pyj2VaTLfcVtx5FDqUJRKM27o+guJaXNhbLHVTIvWjonTuBk9YOwqR FJ+0lpzG2Qg7XOvnnnYYWhZhIpblvGqL1NXY0OIHl1dZih1CxpLWRx7mjyC+ChEd0TTB P2iC160bulvjKhWPO2CkvvAhV0CDgEJDIItE+ByYkXhxhTo9S/EzWKDi3IqbN4dRB76K gghw== Received: by 10.152.133.144 with SMTP id pc16mr28451752lab.0.1335988089135; Wed, 02 May 2012 12:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dsl-207-112-91-137.tor.primus.ca. [207.112.91.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gw17sm2942882lab.11.2012.05.02.12.48.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 May 2012 12:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4FA18F74.5090606@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 15:48:04 -0400 From: Tom Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pcn@ietf.org References: <1335966046.12731.7.camel@tachyon> In-Reply-To: <1335966046.12731.7.camel@tachyon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120502-0, 02/05/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [PCN] **DRAFT** PCN IETF 83 minutes X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 19:48:11 -0000 Looks good to me. On 02/05/2012 9:40 AM, Steven Blake wrote: > PCN, > > Apologies for taking so long to get these posted. Please review ASAP. > > > Regards, > > // Steve > > > > _______________________________________________ > PCN mailing list > PCN@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn From karagian@cs.utwente.nl Thu May 3 02:24:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E59B21F85D3 for ; Thu, 3 May 2012 02:24:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.241 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.241 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.745, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GwRBDhfM3R5g for ; Thu, 3 May 2012 02:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXEDGE02.ad.utwente.nl (exedge02.ad.utwente.nl [130.89.5.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F3C21F85CF for ; Thu, 3 May 2012 02:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EXHUB02.ad.utwente.nl (130.89.4.229) by EXEDGE02.ad.utwente.nl (130.89.5.49) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.339.1; Thu, 3 May 2012 11:24:26 +0200 Received: from EXMBX04.ad.utwente.nl ([169.254.4.44]) by EXHUB02.ad.utwente.nl ([130.89.4.229]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Thu, 3 May 2012 11:24:25 +0200 From: To: Thread-Topic: [PCN] **DRAFT** PCN IETF 83 minutes Thread-Index: AQHNKGkzoPAnSDyYCkS6UPj+1oAhz5a2xqAAgAEFa6A= Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 09:24:24 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1335966046.12731.7.camel@tachyon> <4FA18F74.5090606@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FA18F74.5090606@gmail.com> Accept-Language: nl-NL, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.89.12.129] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PCN] **DRAFT** PCN IETF 83 minutes X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 May 2012 09:24:28 -0000 Hi Steve, It looks good to me too! Best regards, Georgios > -----Original Message----- > From: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Tom Taylor > Sent: woensdag 2 mei 2012 21:48 > To: pcn@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [PCN] **DRAFT** PCN IETF 83 minutes >=20 > Looks good to me. >=20 > On 02/05/2012 9:40 AM, Steven Blake wrote: > > PCN, > > > > Apologies for taking so long to get these posted. Please review ASAP. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > // Steve > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PCN mailing list > > PCN@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn > _______________________________________________ > PCN mailing list > PCN@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn From Ruediger.Geib@telekom.de Fri May 4 00:12:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C7ED21F8702 for ; Fri, 4 May 2012 00:12:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.248 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.248 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zN8rodMzzvCp for ; Fri, 4 May 2012 00:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcmail53.telekom.de (tcmail53.telekom.de [217.5.214.110]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EB021F867A for ; Fri, 4 May 2012 00:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from he113443.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.134.93.103]) by tcmail51.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 04 May 2012 09:11:31 +0200 Received: from HE113656.emea1.cds.t-internal.com (10.134.99.16) by HE113443.emea1.cds.t-internal.com (10.134.93.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.245.1; Fri, 4 May 2012 09:11:30 +0200 Received: from HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([169.254.5.136]) by HE113656.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([::1]) with mapi; Fri, 4 May 2012 09:11:30 +0200 From: To: , Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 09:11:29 +0200 Thread-Topic: [PCN] **DRAFT** PCN IETF 83 minutes Thread-Index: Ac0oaU1UQEswY4gtSdClx/LnrRMdFwBW7wUg Message-ID: <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D13DF15C5F8@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <1335966046.12731.7.camel@tachyon> In-Reply-To: <1335966046.12731.7.camel@tachyon> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PCN] **DRAFT** PCN IETF 83 minutes X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 07:12:22 -0000 Hi Steve, thanks for the notes, I've got no comments. Regards, Ruediger -----Original Message----- From: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Steve= n Blake Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 3:41 PM To: pcn Subject: [PCN] **DRAFT** PCN IETF 83 minutes PCN, Apologies for taking so long to get these posted. Please review ASAP. Regards, // Steve From slblake@petri-meat.com Sat May 5 23:29:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07D1521F84AF for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 23:29:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.277, BAYES_40=-0.185, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wn4UIyp3-1GA for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 23:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elom.tchmachines.com (elom.tchmachines.com [208.76.80.198]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6425121F84A6 for ; Sat, 5 May 2012 23:29:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=petri-meat.com; s=default; h=Mime-Version:Message-ID:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:References:In-Reply-To:Date:To:From:Subject; bh=HYKDztazzpHPBsMHBR+/IsjFNL4aAz0st4MIjcujd94=; b=kxz2KFyGQn8ZziwaUvHNZOuYf8OpolkeYqKWihr3eIMiOTzaCmfiQcYoVUCRC1RvcEhtGKqhvJNAeYTbBTB8p1ZXG8MlN6N9Wjldm0Ly5/w6zw2aQUzBNWO3mbCad4kJ; Received: from cpe-174-097-233-186.nc.res.rr.com ([174.97.233.186]:48597) by elom.tchmachines.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SQuyW-0002Lp-Ml for pcn@ietf.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 02:29:44 -0400 From: Steven Blake To: pcn Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 02:29:46 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1335966046.12731.7.camel@tachyon> References: <1335966046.12731.7.camel@tachyon> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.0.3 (3.0.3-1.fc15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1336285786.2674.22.camel@tachyon> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elom.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - petri-meat.com Subject: Re: [PCN] **DRAFT** PCN IETF 83 minutes X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 06:29:48 -0000 On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 09:40 -0400, Steven Blake wrote: > PCN, > > Apologies for taking so long to get these posted. Please review ASAP. I have uploaded these minutes. Thanks for the fast review. Regards, // Steve From internet-drafts@ietf.org Fri May 11 10:53:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D387321F86EE; Fri, 11 May 2012 10:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.44 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.159, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IBjGSydXdPbu; Fri, 11 May 2012 10:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634E521F86DE; Fri, 11 May 2012 10:53:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.02 Message-ID: <20120511175353.16280.14572.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 10:53:53 -0700 Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: [PCN] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-15.txt X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 17:53:54 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notific= ation Working Group of the IETF. Title : PCN Boundary Node Behaviour for the Controlled Load (CL)= Mode of Operation Author(s) : Anna Charny Fortune Huang Georgios Karagiannis Michael Menth Tom Taylor Filename : draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-15.txt Pages : 34 Date : 2012-05-11 Pre-congestion notification (PCN) is a means for protecting the quality of service for inelastic traffic admitted to a Diffserv domain. The overall PCN architecture is described in RFC 5559. This memo is one of a series describing possible boundary node behaviours for a PCN-domain. The behaviour described here is that for a form of measurement-based load control using three PCN marking states, not- marked, threshold-marked, and excess-traffic-marked. This behaviour is known informally as the Controlled Load (CL) PCN-boundary-node behaviour. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-15.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour-15.txt The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pcn-cl-edge-behaviour/ From frank.wetzels@cwi.nl Fri May 18 13:13:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A833921F85F1 for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 13:13:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.742 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.742 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.387, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E4oco3E1koF2 for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 13:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hera.cwi.nl (hera.cwi.nl [192.16.191.8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E148521F8611 for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 13:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hera.cwi.nl (hera.cwi.nl [192.16.191.8]) by hera.cwi.nl with ESMTP id q4IKDPNn003287 for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 22:13:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from bigwappel.vlambloem.net (twin.xs4all.nl [80.101.159.93]) (authenticated bits=0) by hera.cwi.nl (8.13.6/8.12.3) with ESMTP id q4IKDP3p003285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 22:13:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Frank Wetzels Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 22:13:25 +0200 Message-Id: <3F7B3D15-4D18-4E32-811D-3F7FEC931BA5@cwi.nl> To: pcn@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Subject: [PCN] PCN simulations in NS2 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 20:15:31 -0000 All, I am new to this list. For give me my possible trivial question. I searched the archives, but couldn't find anything on possible = simulation code for NS2. In the NS2 mailing list (not IETF :-)) there was no awareness of any = deployment in NS2 as well. Has any of you pointers in that direction? Or does the NS2 deployment = need to be started? Any plans to start such simulation or development in NS2? Regards, Frank From menth@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Fri May 18 13:56:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pcn@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD2321F8595 for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 13:56:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.058 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.058 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HELO_MISMATCH_DE=1.448] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 83mJ-w1lLvRo for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 13:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (mx3.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FD2B21F857A for ; Fri, 18 May 2012 13:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B3452F8; Fri, 18 May 2012 22:55:57 +0200 (MEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Received: from mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mqxeov-zuvQ9; Fri, 18 May 2012 22:55:51 +0200 (MEST) Received: from zcs-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (zcs-pu.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.61]) by mx3.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F4552ED; Fri, 18 May 2012 22:55:51 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (HSI-KBW-37-49-35-184.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de [37.49.35.184]) by zcs-pu.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC1D1A0F1CD; Fri, 18 May 2012 22:55:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4FB6B759.6080300@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 22:55:53 +0200 From: Michael Menth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Wetzels References: <3F7B3D15-4D18-4E32-811D-3F7FEC931BA5@cwi.nl> In-Reply-To: <3F7B3D15-4D18-4E32-811D-3F7FEC931BA5@cwi.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pcn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PCN] PCN simulations in NS2 X-BeenThere: pcn@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: PCN WG list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 20:56:08 -0000 Hi Frank, we have simulated a lot but used our own customized simulator written in Java. I am not aware of any NS2 deployment. Regards, Michael Am 18.05.2012 22:13, schrieb Frank Wetzels: > All, > > I am new to this list. For give me my possible trivial question. > > I searched the archives, but couldn't find anything on possible simulation code for NS2. > In the NS2 mailing list (not IETF :-)) there was no awareness of any deployment in NS2 as well. > > Has any of you pointers in that direction? Or does the NS2 deployment need to be started? > Any plans to start such simulation or development in NS2? > > Regards, > Frank > > > _______________________________________________ > PCN mailing list > PCN@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn -- Prof. Dr. habil. Michael Menth University of Tuebingen Faculty of Science Department of Computer Science Chair of Communication Networks Sand 13, 72076 Tuebingen, Germany phone: (+49)-7071/29-70505 fax: (+49)-7071/29-5220 mailto:menth@uni-tuebingen.de http://kn.inf.uni-tuebingen.de