From a.bakker@vu.nl Mon Feb 11 02:09:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6AA421F86C0 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:09:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.004 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.004 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BCAdC-ZWHpTj for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:09:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailin.vu.nl (mailin.vu.nl [130.37.164.16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815AF21F86BC for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:09:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from PEXHB012B.vu.local (130.37.236.67) by mailin.vu.nl (130.37.164.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:09:52 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.103] (130.37.238.20) by mails.vu.nl (130.37.236.67) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:09:54 +0100 Message-ID: <5118C37D.6060505@cs.vu.nl> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:10:05 +0100 From: Arno Bakker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ppsp References: <20130211100428.15344.42812.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130211100428.15344.42812.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20130211100428.15344.42812.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [130.37.238.20] Subject: [ppsp] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06.txt X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: arno@cs.vu.nl List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:09:58 -0000 Hi all the review by the Area Director of the peer protocol is under way and as a result we added a Section 12 on Operation and Manageability Considerations, following the checklist in RFC5706. Could you please review Section 12 and provide feedback? Thanks, Arno et al. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06.txt Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:04:28 -0800 From: To: CC: , A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06.txt has been successfully submitted by Arno Bakker and posted to the IETF repository. Filename: draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol Revision: 06 Title: Peer-to-Peer Streaming Peer Protocol (PPSPP) Creation date: 2013-02-11 WG ID: ppsp Number of pages: 64 URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06.txt Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06 Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06 Abstract: The Peer-to-Peer Streaming Peer Protocol (PPSPP) is a transport protocol for disseminating the same content to a group of interested parties in a streaming fashion. PPSPP supports streaming of both pre-recorded (on-demand) and live audio/video content. It is based on the peer-to-peer paradigm, where clients consuming the content are put on equal footing with the servers initially providing the content, to create a system where everyone can potentially provide upload bandwidth. It has been designed to provide short time-till- playback for the end user, and to prevent disruption of the streams by malicious peers. PPSPP has also been designed to be flexible and extensible. It can use different mechanisms to optimize peer uploading, prevent freeriding, and work with different peer discovery schemes (centralized trackers or Distributed Hash Tables). It supports multiple methods for content integrity protection and chunk addressing. Designed as a generic protocol that can run on top of various transport protocols, it currently runs on top of UDP using LEDBAT for congestion control. The IETF Secretariat From sprevidi@cisco.com Mon Feb 11 03:46:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A9121F879A for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:46:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SiYhYY1hTg5g for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:46:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278D321F87D2 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 03:46:54 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from stew-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1BBkovp002391 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:46:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from ams3-vpn-dhcp4559.cisco.com (ams3-vpn-dhcp4559.cisco.com [10.61.81.206]) by stew-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1BBkncx008948; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:46:49 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: stefano previdi In-Reply-To: <5118C37D.6060505@cs.vu.nl> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:46:49 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <61AFF7CA-9E92-4EF4-AC59-FBEFA0FC3764@cisco.com> References: <20130211100428.15344.42812.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5118C37D.6060505@cs.vu.nl> To: arno@cs.vu.nl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Cc: ppsp Subject: Re: [ppsp] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06.txt X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:46:58 -0000 Thanks Arno. All, let's take this week for any comment on section 12. Then we'll move to=20= IESG/AD review. thanks. s. On Feb 11, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Arno Bakker wrote: > Hi all >=20 > the review by the Area Director of the peer protocol is under way and = as a result we added a Section 12 on Operation and Manageability = Considerations, following the checklist in RFC5706. >=20 > Could you please review Section 12 and provide feedback? >=20 > Thanks, > Arno et al. >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06.txt > Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 02:04:28 -0800 > From: > To: > CC: , >=20 >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06.txt > has been successfully submitted by Arno Bakker and posted to the > IETF repository. >=20 > Filename: draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol > Revision: 06 > Title: Peer-to-Peer Streaming Peer Protocol (PPSPP) > Creation date: 2013-02-11 > WG ID: ppsp > Number of pages: 64 > URL: = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06.txt > Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol > Htmlized: = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06 > Diff: = http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-06 >=20 > Abstract: > The Peer-to-Peer Streaming Peer Protocol (PPSPP) is a transport > protocol for disseminating the same content to a group of interested > parties in a streaming fashion. PPSPP supports streaming of both > pre-recorded (on-demand) and live audio/video content. It is based > on the peer-to-peer paradigm, where clients consuming the content = are > put on equal footing with the servers initially providing the > content, to create a system where everyone can potentially provide > upload bandwidth. It has been designed to provide short time-till- > playback for the end user, and to prevent disruption of the streams > by malicious peers. PPSPP has also been designed to be flexible and > extensible. It can use different mechanisms to optimize peer > uploading, prevent freeriding, and work with different peer = discovery > schemes (centralized trackers or Distributed Hash Tables). It > supports multiple methods for content integrity protection and chunk > addressing. Designed as a generic protocol that can run on top of > various transport protocols, it currently runs on top of UDP using > LEDBAT for congestion control. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF Secretariat >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp >=20 From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Feb 14 08:31:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B61A21F871C; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:31:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.124, BAYES_00=-2.599, MANGLED_LOAN=2.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TqEGMc2avmYf; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:31:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EF521F844F; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:31:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.40 Message-ID: <20130214163150.29515.33443.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:31:50 -0800 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:41:35 -0800 Cc: ppsp@ietf.org Subject: [ppsp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-00.txt X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 16:31:50 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Peer to Peer Streaming Protocol Working G= roup of the IETF. Title : PPSP Tracker Protocol-Base Protocol (PPSP-TP/1.0) Author(s) : Rui Santos Cruz Mario Serafim Nunes Gu Yingjie Jinwei Xia Joao P. Taveira Deng Lingli Filename : draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-00.txt Pages : 51 Date : 2013-02-14 Abstract: This document specifies the base Peer-to-Peer Streaming Protocol- Tracker Protocol (PPSP-TP/1.0), an application-layer control (signaling) protocol for the exchange of meta information between trackers and peers. The specification outlines the architecture of the protocol and its functionality, and describes message flows, message processing instructions, message formats, formal syntax and semantics. The PPSP Tracker Protocol enables cooperating peers to form content streaming overlay networks to support near real-time Structured Media content delivery (audio, video, associated timed text and metadata), such as adaptive multi-rate, layered (scalable) and multi-view (3D) videos, in live, time-shifted and on-demand modes. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-00 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From vumip1@gmail.com Sun Feb 3 18:37:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0205521F87ED; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:37:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0ogq5Y-+pBcA; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:37:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-la0-x22d.google.com (la-in-x022d.1e100.net [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15E421F873D; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:37:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id er20so4114245lab.4 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:37:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=5/bTlmPzPLrOs2LW7+pjaShJqDy4uZMlbGCFn2gfpxw=; b=i9BgH8dEW/ykmo+qRZj/nGrbrfyqz6PRu1Xxs4MGiPudYANm/jh4A5nq/jNg70VIYo RWOV1aZdrATQ0E46F5/ajjjgwkT/bOHNrrut0SjovaWenrPyuH2fT9TgU4wp9GrnRUtA usyvYxXldeHZJpCqkcM//5+/rbV9uyscDubLfoZP6t8umAiGQHTln+Z9ktcG61n8cBXy bxK3wmDdCBMhmTl1aHyrtBFLJdhrXY46BgB6T8M1vPD2r80QER2TlHcL6G0wMCrSGbzs eiT7A1G4vTX3T0GosfV0qp2gTQtRj6/PCKQwDgLaIAvDlX3puTLZxi/WDis7E2I/dDgu WBbg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.17.166 with SMTP id p6mr2076855lbd.41.1359945430450; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.29.198 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:37:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 21:37:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: "B.Khasnabish@ieee.org" To: dispatch@ietf.org, opsawg@ietf.org, ppsp@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec55400f04bc1d804d4dcf8d3 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 01:43:57 -0800 Subject: [ppsp] Fwd: End-point based Multimedia QoE Management draft (draft-khasnabish-dispatch-qoe-management-00.txt) published X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 02:37:24 -0000 --bcaec55400f04bc1d804d4dcf8d3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello, FYI, and kind review/comments/suggestions. Thanks. Best. Bhumip and Gerard I-D Action: draft-khasnabish-dispatch-qoe-management-00.txt ------------------------------ - *To*: i-d-announce at ietf.org - *Subject*: I-D Action: draft-khasnabish-dispatch-qoe-management-00.txt - *From*: internet-drafts at ietf.org - *Date*: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:18:28 -0800 - *Delivered-to*: i-d-announce at ietfa.amsl.com - *List-archive*: - *List-help*: > - *List-id*: Internet Draft Announcements only - *List-post*: > - *List-subscribe*: , > - *List-unsubscribe*: , > - *Reply-to*: internet-drafts at ietf.org ------------------------------ A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : End-point based Multimedia QoE Management Author(s) : Bhumip Khasnabish Gerard Fernando Filename : draft-khasnabish-dispatch-qoe-management-00.txt Pages : 17 Date : 2012-12-31 Abstract: This draft describes a method for improving the quality of experience (QoE) for real-time video and other multimedia services using features and functions of the end-point only, that is, without requiring any upgrade to the network transport infrastructure. Any upgrade to the network transport infrastructure not only incurs significant costs, these are also time consuming and technology- dependent. Therefore, these QoE improvement mechanisms are significantly more attractive to both network operators and service providers. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-khasnabish-dispatch-qoe-management There's also a htmlized version available at:http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-khasnabish-dispatch-qoe-management-00 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ --bcaec55400f04bc1d804d4dcf8d3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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	Title           : End-point based Multimedia QoE Management
	Author(s)       : Bhumip Khasnabish
                          Gerard Fernando
	Filename        : draft-khasnabish-dispatch-qoe-management-00.txt
	Pages           : 17
	Date            : 2012-12-31

Abstract:
   This draft describes a method for improving the quality of experience
   (QoE) for real-time video and other multimedia services using
   features and functions of the end-point only, that is, without
   requiring any upgrade to the network transport infrastructure.  Any
   upgrade to the network transport infrastructure not only incurs
   significant costs, these are also time consuming and technology-
   dependent.  Therefore, these QoE improvement mechanisms are
   significantly more attractive to both network operators and service
   providers.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-khasnabi=
sh-dispatch-qoe-management

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-khasnabish-dispat=
ch-qoe-management-00


Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.=
ietf.org/internet-drafts/
--bcaec55400f04bc1d804d4dcf8d3-- From a.bakker@vu.nl Tue Feb 19 02:59:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7BD221F8BC9 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:59:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.254 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.254 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.750, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tjJQwh45ckT9 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailin.vu.nl (mailin.vu.nl [130.37.164.18]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0464321F8BC5 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:59:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from PEXHB011B.vu.local (130.37.236.65) by mailin.vu.nl (130.37.164.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:59:24 +0100 Received: from [130.161.211.249] (130.37.238.20) by mails.vu.nl (130.37.236.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:59:24 +0100 Message-ID: <51235B1E.4070608@cs.vu.nl> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 11:59:42 +0100 From: Arno Bakker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <20130214163150.29515.33443.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130214163150.29515.33443.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [130.37.238.20] Subject: Re: [ppsp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-00.txt X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: arno@cs.vu.nl List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:59:27 -0000 Hi all good that the tracker protocol is now in a WG document. Reading it again I really would like to have an option to specify that I want the tracker to return a random sample of the peer population of a swarm. Rui previously argued (mail dd. 13-11-2012) that it is an implementation issue, but I think users must be able to ask for specific semantics, just like they can select the number of peers to be returned, etc. What do you think? CU, Arno From joao.p.taveira@gmail.com Tue Feb 19 04:17:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25E621F8878 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:17:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.632 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.632 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zohZgQWSoV4p for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pb0-f48.google.com (mail-pb0-f48.google.com [209.85.160.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F030321F883A for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id wy12so2233083pbc.7 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:17:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=67BegM1J0RZxmnViUgZOZgyZ5FIf/y16aUI78mqTt4Q=; b=HfVCKo/XViJESzaxM5j9J6UByS8UCpE1PBSMryVyJ+jfqdqCnBezNJh4XznTHxmRcB P0j/JuVBvg6EKwTRsVdleIfSLbr1D5jQfqDyxlc3BFdSNOBAcuC9wdnK/RV9llwWmQCh j178PCNdTNcFyugoQuspg5FbLoW0Gm+aXP80/3VjstSR7x5DYusV/iKCxM9qANRsQ+OS igGg4csOnxFI/p95VHvfo8NOOtbbwnFdb+lnmJCFycKYCI21O+/sXIJGg6fB72EP9S0M sUiFsj+QKObY6369WZoDs7bYGRyhgkTUjB2xcOZBCs2eglQZUQQWhMq996GOvbDfXpXg AySQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.4.136 with SMTP id k8mr45189464pak.22.1361276272708; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.249.201 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:17:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <51235B1E.4070608@cs.vu.nl> References: <20130214163150.29515.33443.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <51235B1E.4070608@cs.vu.nl> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:17:52 +0000 Message-ID: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Pedro_Taveira?= To: arno@cs.vu.nl Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec520f6f1ad0d2104d612d424 Cc: ppsp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ppsp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-00.txt X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:17:53 -0000 --bcaec520f6f1ad0d2104d612d424 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Arno, About the number of peers to be returned, one may specify optional PeerNUM. About the option you mention about request a random sample of peer population, I think this could be defined in one extended version of tracker protocol. For instance, to the PeerNUM element, it could be specified a "selector" attribute with the key of one of acceptable selectors by tracker implementation, such as a "random" key. Using CONNECT message sample http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-00#section-4.1, a connect message could be: CONNECT 656164657220 15 1111 2222 12345.0 Best Regards On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Arno Bakker wrote: > Hi all > > good that the tracker protocol is now in a WG document. Reading it again I > really would like to have an option to specify that I want the tracker to > return a random sample of the peer population of a swarm. Rui previously > argued (mail dd. 13-11-2012) that it is an implementation issue, but I > think users must be able to ask for specific semantics, just like they can > select the number of peers to be returned, etc. > > What do you think? > > CU, > Arno > > > ______________________________**_________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/ppsp > --bcaec520f6f1ad0d2104d612d424 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Arno,

About the number of peer= s to be returned, one may specify optional=A0PeerNUM.

Abou= t the option you mention about request a random sample of peer population, = I think this could be defined in one extended version of tracker protocol. = For instance, to the=A0PeerNUM element, it could be specified a "selector" attribute w= ith the key of one of acceptable selectors by tracker implementation, such = as a "random" key.

=
Using CONNECT mes= sage sample=A0http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf= -ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-00#section-4.1, a connect message could be:= 

<?xml version=3D"1.0=
" encoding=3D"UTF-8"?>
<PPSPTrackerProtocol xmlns=3D"TBD" schemaLocation=3D"TBD&=
quot; version=3D"1.2">
  <Request>CONNECT</Request>
  <PeerID>656164657220</PeerID>
  <PeerNum abilityNAT=3D"STUN" selector=3D"random"&g=
t;15</PeerNum>
  <SwarmID action=3D"JOIN" peerMode=3D"SEED"
           transactionID=3D"12345.1">1111</SwarmID>
  <SwarmID action=3D"JOIN" peerMode=3D"SEED"
           transactionID=3D"12345.2">2222</SwarmID>
  <TransactionID>12345.0</TransactionID>
</PPSPTrackerProtocol>

B=
est Regards


O= n Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Arno Bakker <arno@cs.vu.nl> wr= ote:
Hi all

good that the tracker protocol is now in a WG document. Reading it again I = really would like to have an option to specify that I want the tracker to r= eturn a random sample of the peer population of a swarm. Rui previously arg= ued (mail dd. 13-11-2012) that it is an implementation issue, but I think u= sers must be able to ask for specific semantics, just like they can select = the number of peers to be returned, etc.

What do you think?

CU,
=A0 =A0 Arno


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--bcaec520f6f1ad0d2104d612d424-- From rui.cruz@ieee-pt.org Tue Feb 19 09:22:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F27221F8E77 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:22:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -96.428 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.428 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_LH_HOME=3.714, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ako6lxxsFoQ9 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-x236.google.com (mail-we0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D7921F8E6F for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id t57so5960668wey.13 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:22:08 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=yuAv3MOUoglp+g5kdVkXW+86fepW1a9WM+gXLv6Gx28=; b=Sp7us/ukhIQzdOOGiCa9RhDE/ySba/GSG7e1yOwOqVBVUQDShVEboEptSZpYCrKZ90 5SnFQbxK6StCRjHeC63CgzS9hUJkueDrp5q20rYKJGH6UwsOUhEpuvDQj/bxvY22Hcuy wRrJldd0Rv/+zUI9ehiluxPh9eJdEVn3yQSsVgEFLyku4dIAOhsHGYXeoN+cbqBcJsWj lgAiAoQOWoUEAi3udyN6wMBFS2HIe6urLZpW9VOzZ8Pi8wD/5f0/q8/I6yef0EdVhSAq ZiYrfYjtyo+amjolvQPNMcwkmI5rmFT3xwmoBqwztd22fTnxlCMspPIYZPinz/haqkMU KoUg== X-Received: by 10.194.9.71 with SMTP id x7mr27982487wja.53.1361294528312; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from airia.lan ([89.180.16.30]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ex1sm29031996wib.7.2013.02.19.09.22.05 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Feb 2013 09:22:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: Rui Cruz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_AE770EFA-0B85-487C-AAB0-6C6226B0FB51" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) From: Rui Cruz In-Reply-To: <51235B1E.4070608@cs.vu.nl> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:22:04 +0000 Message-Id: <2ADFC759-ADF4-40D9-B08F-441AA08DF6E4@ieee.org> References: <20130214163150.29515.33443.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <51235B1E.4070608@cs.vu.nl> To: arno@cs.vu.nl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnlN7RxMYKTg1DI4BrD2Duba66FSUbWBj3ApUstjU/GPHfy5dFABSGXiXbJnLJDA/mtlOqf Cc: Rui Cruz , ppsp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [ppsp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-00.txt X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:22:13 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_AE770EFA-0B85-487C-AAB0-6C6226B0FB51 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Arno and All, As a matter of fact, in page 28 (second paragraph: implementation note) = such situation is described, i.e., the Tracker service responds with a = random sample of the peer population in the peer list. The text however, as it is written, is not clear, "apparently" = restricting the "random" nature of the sample taken to a non-specific = selection criteria in the PeerNum element. That situation can perfectly = be cleared by rewriting that paragraph. What I mean is: the tracker protocol semantics already conveys the = "criteria" to be respected by the Tracker service in the corresponding = responses regarding the peer list, and the "normal" behavior of the = Tracker Service should be of taking a random sample of the peer = population in a swarm (subject or not to more fine-grained criteria = expressed in the PeerNum attributes or by Operators=92 policy = preferences, e.g., peer location).=20 As such, the peer protocol requirement 13.2.3 was already considered, = but not conveniently expressed in the text. Of course, as in Jo=E3o Pedro Taveira's response, an extension to the = base protocol semantics could also be considered in order to include = additional attributes in the PeerNum element to "instruct" the Tracker = service of a "selector algorithm" to be used in addition to the other = criteria, and in alternative to the default "random" selector. But that = is an option for extension of the base protocol.=20 Regards, Rui Cruz rui.cruz@ieee.org IST/INESC-ID/INOV - Lisbon, Portugal __________________________________________ ppsp mailing list ppsp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp On 19/02/2013, at 10:59, Arno Bakker wrote: > Hi all >=20 > good that the tracker protocol is now in a WG document. Reading it = again I really would like to have an option to specify that I want the = tracker to return a random sample of the peer population of a swarm. Rui = previously argued (mail dd. 13-11-2012) that it is an implementation = issue, but I think users must be able to ask for specific semantics, = just like they can select the number of peers to be returned, etc. >=20 > What do you think? >=20 > CU, > Arno >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp --Apple-Mail=_AE770EFA-0B85-487C-AAB0-6C6226B0FB51 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Hi = Arno and All,

As a matter of fact, in page 28 (second = paragraph: implementation note) such situation is described, i.e., the = Tracker service responds with a random sample of the peer population in = the peer list.

The text however, as it is = written, is not clear, "apparently" restricting the "random" nature of = the sample taken to a non-specific selection criteria in the PeerNum = element. That situation can perfectly be cleared by rewriting that = paragraph.

What I mean is: the tracker protocol = semantics already conveys the "criteria" to be respected by the Tracker = service in the corresponding responses regarding the peer list, and the = "normal" behavior of the Tracker Service should be of taking a random = sample of the peer population in a swarm (subject or not to more = fine-grained criteria expressed in the PeerNum attributes or = by Operators=92 policy preferences, e.g., = peer location). 
As such, the peer protocol = requirement 13.2.3 was already considered, but not conveniently = expressed in the text.

Of course, as in Jo=E3o = Pedro Taveira's response, an extension to the base protocol semantics = could also be considered in order to include additional attributes in = the PeerNum element to "instruct" the Tracker service of a "selector = algorithm" to be used in addition to the other criteria, and in = alternative to the default "random" selector. But that is an option for = extension of the base protocol. 

Regards,

Rui = Cruz
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IST/INESC-ID/INOV - Lisbon, = Portugal
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On 19/02/2013, at 10:59, Arno Bakker <arno@cs.vu.nl> wrote:

Hi = all

good that the tracker protocol is now in a WG document. = Reading it again I really would like to have an option to specify that I = want the tracker to return a random sample of the peer population of a = swarm. Rui previously argued (mail dd. 13-11-2012) that it is an = implementation issue, but I think users must be able to ask for specific = semantics, just like they can select the number of peers to be returned, = etc.

What do you think?

CU,
=    Arno

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Hi=20 Folks,

   The time slot has been scheduled for PPSP = during=20 IETF 86:

   PPSP Session, = Monday,=20 March 11,2013 
   Monday Afternoon Session I 130=
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   Room Name: Boca 1
   Please send us your= =20 agenda slot requests and priority will be given to items on the chart= er, or=20 to topics already discussed on the list. If you have requests for agenda s= lots,=20 please send them to Stefano and me by February 22, identifying the draft, = the=20 length of the desired scheduled slot and the name of the=20 speaker. 

   Thanks in=20 advance.

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------=_001_NextPart121874700052_=------ From a.bakker@vu.nl Tue Feb 19 23:10:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF56621F8942 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 23:10:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.504 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qOL1AW73+lsj for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 23:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailin.vu.nl (mailin.vu.nl [130.37.164.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39D621F8A3F for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 23:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from PEXHB012B.vu.local (130.37.236.67) by mailin.vu.nl (130.37.164.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:10:23 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.103] (130.37.238.20) by mails.vu.nl (130.37.236.67) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:10:25 +0100 Message-ID: <512476F5.6040305@cs.vu.nl> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 08:10:45 +0100 From: Arno Bakker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <20130214163150.29515.33443.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <51235B1E.4070608@cs.vu.nl> <2ADFC759-ADF4-40D9-B08F-441AA08DF6E4@ieee.org> In-Reply-To: <2ADFC759-ADF4-40D9-B08F-441AA08DF6E4@ieee.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: [130.37.238.20] Subject: Re: [ppsp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-00.txt X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: arno@cs.vu.nl List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:10:29 -0000 On 19/02/2013 18:22, Rui Cruz wrote: > > What I mean is: the tracker protocol semantics already conveys the > "criteria" to be respected by the Tracker service in the corresponding > responses regarding the peer list, and the "normal" behavior of the > Tracker Service should be of taking a random sample of the peer > population in a swarm (subject or not to more fine-grained criteria > expressed in the PeerNum attributes or by Operators’ policy preferences, > e.g., peer location). > As such, the peer protocol requirement 13.2.3 was already considered, > but not conveniently expressed in the text. > Hi Rui if you could update the text to make this clearer that would be great. 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Hi all,
  =20
    A new revision of PPSP pr= oblem=20 statement and requirement draft has been uploaded. Any= =20 review and comments are welcome.
 
BR
Yunfei
 
zhangyunfei
 
From: internet-drafts
Date: 2013-02-23 03:44
To: zhangyunfei
CC: zongning
Subject: New Version Notification for=20 draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.txt
 
A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ppsp-proble= m-statement-13.txt
has been successfully submitted by Yunfei&nb= sp;Zhang and posted to the
IETF repository.
 
Filename:  draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement
Revision:  13
Title:=20  Problem Statement and Requirements of Peer-= to-Peer Streaming Protocol (PPSP)
Creation date:  2013-02-20
Group:  ppsp
Number of pages: 26
URL:           = ;  http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-s= tatement-13.txt
Status:          ht= tp://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement
Htmlized:        http://tools= .ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13
Diff:          &nbs= p; http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ppsp-problem-stateme= nt-13
 
Abstract:
   Peer-to-Peer(P2P for short) streamin= g systems show more and more
   popularity in current Internet = with proprietary protocols. This
   document identifies problems of = ;the proprietary protocols, proposes
   the development of Peer to = ;Peer Streaming Protocol(PPSP) including
   the Tracker and Peer protocol,&= nbsp;and discusses the scope, requirements
   and use cases of PPSP.
 
           &nb= sp;            = ;            &= nbsp;           &nb= sp;            = ;            &= nbsp;        
The Meta-Data check indicates the following&= nbsp;error:
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Creation Date field is empty or the&nbs= p;creation date is not in a proper form= at 
 
I check the draft without finding the&n= bsp;error. So I manually update the metadata=  with the right creation time. Thanks f= or the help.
 
 
 
The IETF Secretariat
 
 
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Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:14:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.1.1.190] (10.1.1.190) by skoll.office.hd (192.168.125.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:14:43 +0100 Message-ID: <512CD163.6010703@neclab.eu> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:14:43 +0100 From: Martin Stiemerling User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ppsp References: <2013022510394050334718@chinamobile.com> In-Reply-To: <2013022510394050334718@chinamobile.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.1.1.190] Subject: Re: [ppsp] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.txt X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:14:55 -0000 Hi all, There have been requirements added in the recent version that should be double-checked by the WG, before publishing the draft. Yunfei and Stefano: Can you please run a short WGLC (e.g., until March 5th) on the changes in version 13 to see if the WG has any issues with them? Thanks, Martin On 02/25/2013 03:39 AM, zhangyunfei wrote: > Hi all, > A new revision of PPSP problem statement and requirement > draft has been uploaded. Any review and comments are welcome. > BR > Yunfei > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > zhangyunfei > *From:* internet-drafts > *Date:* 2013-02-23 03:44 > *To:* zhangyunfei > *CC:* zongning > *Subject:* New Version Notification for > draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.txt > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.txt > has been successfully submitted by Yunfei Zhang and posted to the > IETF repository. > Filename: draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement > Revision: 13 > Title: > Problem Statement and Requirements of Peer-to-Peer Streaming Protocol (PPSP) > Creation date: 2013-02-20 > Group: ppsp > Number of pages: 26 > URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.txt > Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13 > Diff: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13 > Abstract: > Peer-to-Peer(P2P for short) streaming systems show more and more > popularity in current Internet with proprietary protocols. This > document identifies problems of the proprietary protocols, proposes > the development of Peer to Peer Streaming Protocol(PPSP) including > the Tracker and Peer protocol, and discusses the scope, requirements > and use cases of PPSP. > The Meta-Data check indicates the following error: > *Document date* None > Creation Date field is empty or the creation date is not in a proper format > I check the draft without finding the error. So I manually update the metadata with the right creation time. Thanks for the help. > The IETF Secretariat > > > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp > -- martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu NEC Laboratories Europe NEC Europe Limited Registered Office: Athene, Odyssey Business Park, West End Road, London, HA4 6QE, GB Registered in England 2832014 From sprevidi@cisco.com Tue Feb 26 07:31:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B93521F863F for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:31:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.821 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.821 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.222, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7zVI0njFrmD0 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:31:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8722721F8639 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 07:31:47 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from stew-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1QFVh86002220 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:31:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from dhcp-10-55-82-229.cisco.com (dhcp-10-55-82-229.cisco.com [10.55.82.229]) by stew-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1QFVehR018802; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:31:41 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: stefano previdi X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <2013022510394050334718@chinamobile.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:31:40 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3BE45AD8-2835-4CAC-9A08-3147E04FD87E@cisco.com> References: <2013022510394050334718@chinamobile.com> To: ppsp X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Subject: Re: [ppsp] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.txt X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:31:53 -0000 All, the problem statement & requirements draft has been updated according to=20= comments we received during IESG review. A new set of requirement has been added in section 6.2. Operation &=20 Management Requirements. As Martin suggested, we're going to run a WG last call until March 5. Please, have a look at the draft:=20 = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.t= xt and come back to the list with any comment. Thanks. s. On Feb 25, 2013, at 3:39 AM, zhangyunfei wrote: > Hi all, > =20 > A new revision of PPSP problem statement and requirement draft has = been uploaded. Any review and comments are welcome. > =20 > BR > Yunfei > =20 > zhangyunfei > =20 > From: internet-drafts > Date: 2013-02-23 03:44 > To: zhangyunfei > CC: zongning > Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.txt > =20 > A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.txt > has been successfully submitted by Yunfei Zhang and posted to the > IETF repository. > =20 > Filename: draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement > Revision: 13 > Title: Problem Statement and Requirements of Peer-to-Peer Streaming = Protocol (PPSP) > Creation date: 2013-02-20 > Group: ppsp > Number of pages: 26 > URL: = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.t= xt > Status: = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement > Htmlized: = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13 > Diff: = http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13 > =20 > Abstract: > Peer-to-Peer(P2P for short) streaming systems show more and more > popularity in current Internet with proprietary protocols. This > document identifies problems of the proprietary protocols, proposes > the development of Peer to Peer Streaming Protocol(PPSP) including > the Tracker and Peer protocol, and discusses the scope, = requirements > and use cases of PPSP. > =20 > = =20 > The Meta-Data check indicates the following error: > *Document date* None > Creation Date field is empty or the creation date is not in a proper = format=20 > =20 > I check the draft without finding the error. So I manually update the = metadata with the right creation time. Thanks for the help. > =20 > =20 > =20 > The IETF Secretariat > =20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp From a.bakker@vu.nl Wed Feb 27 06:08:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7788921F8496 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:08:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.254 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.254 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.750, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MLyQFweAkkIQ for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailin.vu.nl (mailin.vu.nl [130.37.164.19]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B60821F8738 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:08:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from PEXHB012B.vu.local (130.37.236.67) by mailin.vu.nl (130.37.164.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:08:08 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.103] (130.37.238.20) by mails.vu.nl (130.37.236.67) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.298.4; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:08:08 +0100 Message-ID: <512E1363.1080804@cs.vu.nl> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:08:35 +0100 From: Arno Bakker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <2013022510394050334718@chinamobile.com> <3BE45AD8-2835-4CAC-9A08-3147E04FD87E@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <3BE45AD8-2835-4CAC-9A08-3147E04FD87E@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [130.37.238.20] Subject: Re: [ppsp] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.txt X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: arno@cs.vu.nl List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:08:15 -0000 On 26/02/2013 16:31, stefano previdi wrote: > > Please, have a look at the draft: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ppsp-problem-statement-13.txt > > and come back to the list with any comment. > Hi all I have the following comments: * PPSP.OAM.REQ-1: PPSP MUST be sufficiently configurable for installation and initial setup. I don't get the reference to "initial setup" there. I suggest to make the requirement "sufficiently configurable" (which is what we strived for with different chunk addressing, content protection methods) and state that the configuration should allow the proxy-based and end-client scenarios. * PPSP.OAM.REQ-2: PPSP MUST implement a set of configuration parameters with default values. IMHO the descriptive text doesn't add anything and suggest it be removed. * PPSP.OAM.REQ-3: PPSP MUST be capable of controlling traffic load to existing networks. I suggest to rephrase this to "PPSP SHOULD allow steering by network-load management protocols." Current phrasing I find unclear and very restrictive with the MUST clause. * PPSP.OAM.REQ-4: PPSP MUST support diagnostic operations. Typo: "correct operations" -> "correct operation" Typo: "*The* PPSP tracker should" Rephrase: "obtained chunks in due time" -> "whether it obtained chunks in time". * PPSP.OAM.REQ-5: PPSP MUST facilitate achieving quality acceptable to streaming application. I have problems with the last paragraph about scalable streaming. To me, it suggests scalable streaming should be supported. I suggest to rephrase to "PPSP implementations MAY use techniques such as scalable streaming to handle bandwidth shortages without disrupting playback." Typo: "to streaming application" -> "to *the* streaming ..." * PPSP.OAM.REQ-6: PPSP MUST support remote management using centralized server, i.e. PPSP tracker. A basic set of management information MUST be implemented by PPSP tracker. The wording suggests a centralized design where all management operations are done via the tracker. This image is not correct IMHO. A tracker service can play an important role in managing a swarm. E.g. it can be used to control publication of a swarm, or to monitor the health of the swarm. Hence it should have a standard management interface that supports such functionality. This interface should take into account that the tracker *service* may be implemented by multiple *servers*. However, PPSP should also support tracker-less designs and should define a management interface for (farms of) PPSP seeders. I suggest to rephrase the requirement so that the tracker service and PPSP seeders should have a remote management interface. Current descriptive text should be tweaked to explain the unique position of the tracker (sees both clients and PPSP seeders). * PPSP.OAM.REQ-9: PPSP MUST support accounting management when content provider wants to charge clients for certain content. I suggest to change the "MUST" to a "MAY" or "SHOULD allow accounting management". CU, Arno From zhangyunfei@chinamobile.com Wed Feb 27 06:56:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D9121F8546 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:56:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -97.82 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-97.82 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.456, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_16=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_17=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_18=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RELAY_IS_221=2.222, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qHZXUiMdGH7N for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmccmta.chinamobile.com (cmccmta.chinamobile.com [221.176.64.232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5487021F853D for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from spf.mail.chinamobile.com (unknown[172.16.20.11]) by rmmx-oa_allagent01-12001 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee1512e1e7e800-b0800; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:55:58 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee1512e1e7e800-b0800 Received: from zhangyunfei@chinamobile.com ( [172.16.20.82] ) by ajax-webmail-oa_rmapp01-11001 (RichMail) with HTTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:55:57 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 22:55:57 +0800 (CST) From: =?utf-8?B?5byg5LqR6aOe?= To: ppsp Message-ID: <2af9512e1ae874e-00012.Richmail.00007050306220693310@chinamobile.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14461_560393637.1361976957983" X-Priority: 3 X-RM-TRANSID: 2af9512e1ae874e-00012 X-Mailer: Richmail 1.0 Subject: [ppsp] Cancellation of the PPSP session in Orlando X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:56:24 -0000 ------=_Part_14461_560393637.1361976957983 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, We are sorry to say that neither Stefano nor I can go to Orlando for this IETF meeting under current condition. So it's very regretful that we have to CANCEL the PPSP session for this IETF. Sorry for taking the inconvenience to you. The current progress of the WG is as follows: 1) PS and requirements draft, finishing IESG review and update, doing a WG last call until March 5. 2) Peer protocol draft, starting IESG review; 3) WG drafts: a)Survey draft, update a new version, ask the WG to start review. Plan to submit final version and start WG last-call in July and submit draft for IESG/AD review in Aug. b)Tracker protocol, 00 version, discussing in the mailing list; 4) Individual drafts: a)Tracker protocol extension, update a new version, waiting for discussion. b)Enhanced Closed Swarm protocol, no update. c)Tracker protocol, updated as the tracker protocol WG draft. Please continue the discussion of the drafts in the mailing list and we appreciate all of your contributions on moving forward these drafts. Looking forward to meeting with you soon. BR Stefano&Yunfei ------=_Part_14461_560393637.1361976957983 Content-Type: text/html;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi folks,

     We are sorry to say that neither Stefano nor I can go to Orlando for this IETF meeting under current condition. So it's very regretful that we have to CANCEL the PPSP session for this IETF. Sorry for taking the inconvenience to you.

     The current progress of the WG is as follows:

1) PS and requirements draft, finishing IESG review and update, doing  a WG last call until March 5.
2) Peer protocol draft, starting IESG review;
3) WG drafts:
       a)Survey draft, update a new version, ask the WG to start review. Plan to submit final version and start WG last-call in July and submit draft for IESG/AD review in Aug.
      b)Tracker protocol,  00 version, discussing in the mailing list;
4) Individual drafts:
      a)Tracker protocol extension, update a new version, waiting for discussion.
      b)Enhanced Closed Swarm protocol, no update.
      c)Tracker protocol, updated as the tracker protocol  WG draft.

      Please continue the discussion of the drafts in the mailing list and we appreciate all of your contributions on moving forward these drafts. Looking forward to meeting with you soon.

      
  BR
 Stefano&Yunfei
   
------=_Part_14461_560393637.1361976957983-- From peer2peer@gmail.com Wed Feb 27 07:01:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAB521F856F for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:01:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.8 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_16=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_17=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_18=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mRftJsmUj-79 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com (mail-we0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E8D21F8552 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id x48so542145wey.23 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:00:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dvvYB4Vjx3Rep4tcIo3QtTx3gc0fSVKMWSzQIHdOFTc=; b=jIn8i1Vfls8+soMFagj0i6U64l93Uh1Ck7KygdVwg+U0HOoaccWWv1cLOU5jKsMU9u FN0/Vnb4rW2PWcZnrnbrafwgHHAvwJJ0lg8xKh1AyOkCltKMewVimroFM+/1D+2aYdtP Ik+g46IhuRmZ/iWnP+muE4S2Za3jpH43HcO+hZ6Gpkouby5AH4OmZhLdcqvTwRUH+Cwq d5kZB5e7Y0BOgwJRNbqxVBpP+ol6onFFM1MbXn7iuMWoq2e1t7d8dY9a1/qvnD8MgC5E u10513PWp6wuFCpYddVoykk8lWBpJIlRPynL4tV9g4ohrUp4WagseiHsNnqgMmVx2oF0 EtmA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.9.166 with SMTP id a6mr4689450wjb.2.1361977250446; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:00:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.44.104 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:00:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2af9512e1ae874e-00012.Richmail.00007050306220693310@chinamobile.com> References: <2af9512e1ae874e-00012.Richmail.00007050306220693310@chinamobile.com> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:00:50 +0100 Message-ID: From: Johan Pouwelse To: ppsp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [ppsp] Cancellation of the PPSP session in Orlando X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:01:01 -0000 OK, so hopefully there will be a PPSP meeting at next IETF meeting: July 28 - August 2, 2013 Location: Berlin, Germany We would be represented there. -j On 27 February 2013 15:55, =E5=BC=A0=E4=BA=91=E9=A3=9E wrote: > Hi folks, > > We are sorry to say that neither Stefano nor I can go to Orlando for > this IETF meeting under current condition. So it's very regretful that we > have to CANCEL the PPSP session for this IETF. Sorry for taking the > inconvenience to you. > > The current progress of the WG is as follows: > > 1) PS and requirements draft, finishing IESG review and update, doing a = WG > last call until March 5. > 2) Peer protocol draft, starting IESG review; > 3) WG drafts: > a)Survey draft, update a new version, ask the WG to start review. > Plan to submit final version and start WG last-call in July and submit dr= aft > for IESG/AD review in Aug. > b)Tracker protocol, 00 version, discussing in the mailing list; > 4) Individual drafts: > a)Tracker protocol extension, update a new version, waiting for > discussion. > b)Enhanced Closed Swarm protocol, no update. > c)Tracker protocol, updated as the tracker protocol WG draft. > > Please continue the discussion of the drafts in the mailing list an= d > we appreciate all of your contributions on moving forward these drafts. > Looking forward to meeting with you soon. > > > BR > Stefano&Yunfei > > > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp > From zhangyunfei@chinamobile.com Wed Feb 27 07:08:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A7121F8569 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:08:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -97.855 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-97.855 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.421, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_16=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_17=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_18=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RELAY_IS_221=2.222, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AkGtitn8-DWH for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from cmccmta.chinamobile.com (cmccmta.chinamobile.com [221.176.64.232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BA5521F8539 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from spf.mail.chinamobile.com (unknown[172.16.20.12]) by rmmx-oa_allagent02-12002 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee2512e2174bb3-b0bb3; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:08:37 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee2512e2174bb3-b0bb3 Received: from zhangyunfei@chinamobile.com ( [172.16.20.82] ) by ajax-webmail-oa_rmapp02-11002 (RichMail) with HTTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:08:37 +0800 (CST) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:08:37 +0800 (CST) From: =?utf-8?B?5byg5LqR6aOe?= To: Johan Pouwelse , ppsp Message-ID: <2afa512e20024e4-0000c.Richmail.00008070702260199340@chinamobile.com> References: <2af9512e1ae874e-00012.Richmail.00007050306220693310@chinamobile.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13525_175666899.1361977717112" X-Priority: 3 X-RM-TRANSID: 2afa512e20024e4-0000c X-Mailer: Richmail 1.0 Subject: Re: [ppsp] Cancellation of the PPSP session in Orlando X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:08:56 -0000 ------=_Part_13525_175666899.1361977717112 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1:) BR Yunfei ----=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6=E5=8E=9F=E6=96=87---- =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9AJohan Pouwelse =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9Appsp =E6=8A=84=E3=80=80=E9=80=81: (=E6=97=A0) =E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4=EF=BC=9A2013-02-27 23:00:50 =E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98=EF=BC=9ARe: [ppsp] Cancellation of the PPSP session in O= rlando OK, so hopefully there will be a PPSP meeting at next IETF meeting: July 28 - August 2, 2013 Location: Berlin, Germany We would be represented there. -j On 27 February 2013 15:55, =E5=BC=A0=E4=BA=91=E9=A3=9E wrote: > Hi folks, > > We are sorry to say that neither Stefano nor I can go to Orlando for > this IETF meeting under current condition. So it's very regretful that we > have to CANCEL the PPSP session for this IETF. Sorry for taking the > inconvenience to you. > > The current progress of the WG is as follows: > > 1) PS and requirements draft, finishing IESG review and update, doing a = WG > last call until March 5. > 2) Peer protocol draft, starting IESG review; > 3) WG drafts: > a)Survey draft, update a new version, ask the WG to start review. > Plan to submit final version and start WG last-call in July and submit dr= aft > for IESG/AD review in Aug. > b)Tracker protocol, 00 version, discussing in the mailing list; > 4) Individual drafts: > a)Tracker protocol extension, update a new version, waiting for > discussion. > b)Enhanced Closed Swarm protocol, no update. > c)Tracker protocol, updated as the tracker protocol WG draft. > > Please continue the discussion of the drafts in the mailing list an= d > we appreciate all of your contributions on moving forward these drafts. > Looking forward to meeting with you soon. > > > BR > Stefano&Yunfei > > > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp > _______________________________________________ ppsp mailing list ppsp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp Subject=EF=BC=9ARe: [ppsp] Cancellation of the PPSP session in Orlando OK, so hopefully there will be a PPSP meeting at next IETF meeting: July 28 - August 2, 2013 Location: Berlin, Germany We would be represented there. -j On 27 February 2013 15:55, =E5=BC=A0=E4=BA=91=E9=A3=9E wrote: > Hi folks, > > We are sorry to say that neither Stefano nor I can go to Orlando for > this IETF meeting under current condition. So it's very regretful that we > have to CANCEL the PPSP session for this IETF. Sorry for taking the > inconvenience to you. > > The current progress of the WG is as follows: > > 1) PS and requirements draft, finishing IESG review and update, doing a = WG > last call until March 5. > 2) Peer protocol draft, starting IESG review; > 3) WG drafts: > a)Survey draft, update a new version, ask the WG to start review. > Plan to submit final version and start WG last-call in July and submit dr= aft > for IESG/AD review in Aug. > b)Tracker protocol, 00 version, discussing in the mailing list; > 4) Individual drafts: > a)Tracker protocol extension, update a new version, waiting for > discussion. > b)Enhanced Closed Swarm protocol, no update. > c)Tracker protocol, updated as the tracker protocol WG draft. > > Please continue the discussion of the drafts in the mailing list an= d > we appreciate all of your contributions on moving forward these drafts. > Looking forward to meeting with you soon. > > > BR > Stefano&Yunfei > > > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp > _______________________________________________ ppsp mailing list ppsp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp ------=_Part_13525_175666899.1361977717112 Content-Type: text/html;charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

+1:)

BR

Yunfei

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=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA= =BA=EF=BC=9AJohan Pouwelse <peer2peer@gmail.com>
=E6=94= =B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9Appsp <ppsp@ietf.org>
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=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97= =B4=EF=BC=9A2013-02-27 23:00:50
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98=EF=BC=9ARe: = ;[ppsp] Cancellation of the PPSP session in&n= bsp;Orlando

OK, so hopefully there will be&= nbsp;a PPSP meeting at next IETF meeting:
=
July 28 - August 2, 2013
Location: Ber= lin, Germany

We would be represented there.=
  -j
On 27 February 2013 15:55, = =E5=BC=A0=E4=BA=91=E9=A3=9E <zhangyunfei@chinamobile.com> w= rote:
> Hi folks,
>
>    &n= bsp; We are sorry to say that neither&nb= sp;Stefano nor I can go to Orlando for> this IETF meeting under current condit= ion. So it's very regretful that we
>&n= bsp;have to CANCEL the PPSP session for = this IETF. Sorry for taking the
> incon= venience to you.
>
>     &nb= sp;The current progress of the WG is as&= nbsp;follows:
>
> 1) PS and requirements&nb= sp;draft, finishing IESG review and update, d= oing  a WG
> last call until March=  5.
> 2) Peer protocol draft, starting&= nbsp;IESG review;
> 3) WG drafts:
> &n= bsp;      a)Survey draft, update&nb= sp;a new version, ask the WG to start&nb= sp;review.
> Plan to submit final version&nb= sp;and start WG last-call in July and su= bmit draft
> for IESG/AD review in Aug.=
>       b)Tracker protocol,&= nbsp; 00 version, discussing in the mailing&n= bsp;list;
> 4) Individual drafts:
>  &= nbsp;    a)Tracker protocol extension, u= pdate a new version, waiting for
> disc= ussion.
>       b)Enhanced Cl= osed Swarm protocol, no update.
>  &nbs= p;    c)Tracker protocol, updated as&nbs= p;the tracker protocol  WG draft.
>
>&= nbsp;      Please continue the = ;discussion of the drafts in the mailing = ;list and
> we appreciate all of your&n= bsp;contributions on moving forward these drafts.<= BR>> Looking forward to meeting with you&n= bsp;soon.
>
>
>   BR
>  St= efano&Yunfei
>
>
> _____________________________= __________________
> ppsp mailing list
> pp= sp@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp
>=
_______________________________________________
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ppsp@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp
<= BR>Subject=EF=BC=9ARe: [ppsp] Cancellation of the = PPSP session in Orlando

OK, so hopefully&nb= sp;there will be a PPSP meeting at next&= nbsp;IETF meeting:

July 28 - August 2, = ;2013
Location: Berlin, Germany

We would be&n= bsp;represented there.
  -j
On 27 February&n= bsp;2013 15:55, =E5=BC=A0=E4=BA=91=E9=A3=9E <zhangyunfei@= chinamobile.com> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
>=       We are sorry to say=  that neither Stefano nor I can go = to Orlando for
> this IETF meeting unde= r current condition. So it's very regretful&n= bsp;that we
> have to CANCEL the PPSP&n= bsp;session for this IETF. Sorry for taking&n= bsp;the
> inconvenience to you.
>
> &= nbsp;    The current progress of th= e WG is as follows:
>
> 1) PS&nbs= p;and requirements draft, finishing IESG review&nb= sp;and update, doing  a WG
> last = call until March 5.
> 2) Peer protocol&= nbsp;draft, starting IESG review;
> 3) WG&nb= sp;drafts:
>        a)Survey&= nbsp;draft, update a new version, ask the&nbs= p;WG to start review.
> Plan to submit&= nbsp;final version and start WG last-call in&= nbsp;July and submit draft
> for IESG/AD&nbs= p;review in Aug.
>       = ;b)Tracker protocol,  00 version, discussing = in the mailing list;
> 4) Individual dr= afts:
>       a)Tracker proto= col extension, update a new version, waiting&= nbsp;for
> discussion.
>     &nbs= p; b)Enhanced Closed Swarm protocol, no updat= e.
>       c)Tracker protocol= , updated as the tracker protocol  WG&nb= sp;draft.
>
>       Please&n= bsp;continue the discussion of the drafts in&= nbsp;the mailing list and
> we appreciate&nb= sp;all of your contributions on moving forwar= d these drafts.
> Looking forward to me= eting with you soon.
>
>
>  &nbs= p;BR
>  Stefano&Yunfei
>
>
> ___= ____________________________________________
> ppsp mailing=  list
> ppsp@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mai= lman/listinfo/ppsp
>
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------=_Part_13525_175666899.1361977717112-- From sprevidi@cisco.com Wed Feb 27 07:21:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF9021F8722 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:21:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -109.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_16=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_17=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_18=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Scfdj2ATDCQa for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (weird-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C32421F86EB for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:21:24 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from stew-brew.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1RFLMaZ021412 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:21:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from dhcp-10-55-82-222.cisco.com (dhcp-10-55-82-222.cisco.com [10.55.82.222]) by stew-brew.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r1RFLL8N008516; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:21:21 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: stefano previdi In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:21:20 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2af9512e1ae874e-00012.Richmail.00007050306220693310@chinamobile.com> To: Johan Pouwelse X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Cc: ppsp Subject: Re: [ppsp] Cancellation of the PPSP session in Orlando X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:21:25 -0000 On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:00 PM, Johan Pouwelse wrote: > OK, so hopefully there will be a PPSP meeting at next IETF meeting: >=20 > July 28 - August 2, 2013 > Location: Berlin, Germany yes! s. >=20 > We would be represented there. > -j > On 27 February 2013 15:55, =E5=BC=A0=E4=BA=91=E9=A3=9E = wrote: >> Hi folks, >>=20 >> We are sorry to say that neither Stefano nor I can go to Orlando = for >> this IETF meeting under current condition. So it's very regretful = that we >> have to CANCEL the PPSP session for this IETF. Sorry for taking the >> inconvenience to you. >>=20 >> The current progress of the WG is as follows: >>=20 >> 1) PS and requirements draft, finishing IESG review and update, doing = a WG >> last call until March 5. >> 2) Peer protocol draft, starting IESG review; >> 3) WG drafts: >> a)Survey draft, update a new version, ask the WG to start = review. >> Plan to submit final version and start WG last-call in July and = submit draft >> for IESG/AD review in Aug. >> b)Tracker protocol, 00 version, discussing in the mailing list; >> 4) Individual drafts: >> a)Tracker protocol extension, update a new version, waiting for >> discussion. >> b)Enhanced Closed Swarm protocol, no update. >> c)Tracker protocol, updated as the tracker protocol WG draft. >>=20 >> Please continue the discussion of the drafts in the mailing list = and >> we appreciate all of your contributions on moving forward these = drafts. >> Looking forward to meeting with you soon. >>=20 >>=20 >> BR >> Stefano&Yunfei >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> ppsp mailing list >> ppsp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp >=20 From guyingjie@huawei.com Wed Feb 27 17:44:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9CC421F8569 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:44:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.224 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.224 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=5.122, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_16=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_17=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_18=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com 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Yes, yingjie. I wish so. Please go ahead with the draft discussi= on on=20 the mailing list.
 
BR
Yunfei
 
zhangyunfei
 
=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A Guyingjie=20 (Yingjie)
=E5=8F=91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4=EF=BC=9A 2013-02-28&= nbsp;09:44
=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A =E5=BC=A0=E4=BA=91=E9=A3=9E; Johan Pouwelse; ppsp
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98=EF=BC=9A =E7=AD=94=E5=A4=8D: [ppsp] Ca= ncellation of the PPSP session in=20 Orlando

So regretful. I myself may not able to get to this IETF becau= se of=20 Visa=E2=80=A6

Let=E2=80=99s meet at next meeting.

 

Best Regards
Gu Yingjie

 

=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6= =E4=BA=BA:=20 ppsp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ppsp-bounces@ietf.org] =E4=BB=A3=E8=A1=A8 =E5=BC=A0=E4=BA=91=E9=A3=9E
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=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA:=20 Johan Pouwelse; ppsp
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98: Re: [ppsp] Cancellation of the PPSP session in=20 Orlando

 

+1:)

BR

Yunfei

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=E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9AJohan Pouwelse <peer2peer@gmail.com>
=E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9Appsp <ppsp@ietf.org>
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=E5=8F= =91=E9=80=81=E6=97=B6=E9=97=B4=EF=BC=9A2013-02-27 23:00:50
=E4=B8=BB=E9=A2=98=EF=BC= =9ARe: [ppsp] Cancellation of the PPSP&= nbsp;session in Orlando

OK, so hopefully t= here will be a PPSP meeting at next&nbs= p;IETF meeting:

July 28 - August 2, 2= 013
Location: Berlin, Germany

We would be&nb= sp;represented there.
  -j
On 27 February&n= bsp;2013 15:55, =E5=BC=A0=E4=BA=91=E9=A3=9E <zhangyunfei@chinamobile.com> wrote:
>=  Hi folks,
>
>      We=  are sorry to say that neither Stefano&= nbsp;nor I can go to Orlando for
>&nbs= p;this IETF meeting under current condition. = ;So it's very regretful that we
> have=  to CANCEL the PPSP session for this&nb= sp;IETF. Sorry for taking the
> inconvenien= ce to you.
>
>      Th= e current progress of the WG is as = ;follows:
>
> 1) PS and requirements = draft, finishing IESG review and update, doi= ng  a WG
> last call until March&= nbsp;5.
> 2) Peer protocol draft, starting&= nbsp;IESG review;
> 3) WG drafts:
> &= nbsp;      a)Survey draft, update&= nbsp;a new version, ask the WG to start=  review.
> Plan to submit final versio= n and start WG last-call in July and&nb= sp;submit draft
> for IESG/AD review in&nbs= p;Aug.
>       b)Tracker pro= tocol,  00 version, discussing in the m= ailing list;
> 4) Individual drafts:
>&nbs= p;      a)Tracker protocol extensi= on, update a new version, waiting for
>= ; discussion.
>       b)Enha= nced Closed Swarm protocol, no update.
>&nb= sp;      c)Tracker protocol, updat= ed as the tracker protocol  WG draft.>
>       Please contin= ue the discussion of the drafts in the&= nbsp;mailing list and
> we appreciate all&n= bsp;of your contributions on moving forward = these drafts.
> Looking forward to meeting&= nbsp;with you soon.
>
>
>   BR<= BR>>  Stefano&Yunfei
>
>
> _______= ________________________________________
> ppsp mailing&nb= sp;list
> ppsp@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailm= an/listinfo/ppsp
>
______________________________________________= _
ppsp mailing list
ppsp@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/= mailman/listinfo/ppsp

Subject=EF=BC=9ARe: [ppsp] Cancellation of the PPSP&= nbsp;session in Orlando

OK, so hopefully t= here will be a PPSP meeting at next&nbs= p;IETF meeting:

July 28 - August 2, 2= 013
Location: Berlin, Germany

We would be&nb= sp;represented there.
  -j
On 27 February&n= bsp;2013 15:55, =E5=BC=A0=E4=BA=91=E9=A3=9E <zhangyunfei@chinamobile.com> wrote:
>=  Hi folks,
>
>      We=  are sorry to say that neither Stefano&= nbsp;nor I can go to Orlando for
>&nbs= p;this IETF meeting under current condition. = ;So it's very regretful that we
> have=  to CANCEL the PPSP session for this&nb= sp;IETF. Sorry for taking the
> inconvenien= ce to you.
>
>      Th= e current progress of the WG is as = ;follows:
>
> 1) PS and requirements = draft, finishing IESG review and update, doi= ng  a WG
> last call until March&= nbsp;5.
> 2) Peer protocol draft, starting&= nbsp;IESG review;
> 3) WG drafts:
> &= nbsp;      a)Survey draft, update&= nbsp;a new version, ask the WG to start=  review.
> Plan to submit final versio= n and start WG last-call in July and&nb= sp;submit draft
> for IESG/AD review in&nbs= p;Aug.
>       b)Tracker pro= tocol,  00 version, discussing in the m= ailing list;
> 4) Individual drafts:
>&nbs= p;      a)Tracker protocol extensi= on, update a new version, waiting for
>= ; discussion.
>       b)Enha= nced Closed Swarm protocol, no update.
>&nb= sp;      c)Tracker protocol, updat= ed as the tracker protocol  WG draft.>
>       Please contin= ue the discussion of the drafts in the&= nbsp;mailing list and
> we appreciate all&n= bsp;of your contributions on moving forward = these drafts.
> Looking forward to meeting&= nbsp;with you soon.
>
>
>   BR<= BR>>  Stefano&Yunfei
>
>
> _______= ________________________________________
> ppsp mailing&nb= sp;list
> ppsp@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailm= an/listinfo/ppsp
>
______________________________________________= _
ppsp mailing list
ppsp@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/= mailman/listinfo/ppsp

 

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