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Wed, 02 Jul 2014 08:42:38 +0800 Message-ID: <604261758.30941@bjtu.edu.cn> X-EMDG-SMTPAUTH: fsong@bjtu.edu.cn Received: from 211.71.74.136 by 218.249.29.198 with SMTP; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 08:42:38 +0800 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 08:49:24 +0800 From: "Fei Song" To: Zongning , "ppsp@ietf.org" References: <604109602.03243@bjtu.edu.cn> X-Priority: 3 X-Has-Attach: no X-Mailer: Foxmail 7.0.1.91[cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <201407020849237800558@bjtu.edu.cn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ppsp/pETmOmMgiNimZT1gojwUsVIam7U Cc: "hishigh@sina.com" Subject: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: fsong List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 00:49:28 -0000 RGVhciBhbGyjug0KDQpXZSBoYXZlIHN1Ym1pdHRlZCBhIG5ldyBkcmFmdCBhYm91dCB1c2FnZSBv ZiBQUFNQLg0KaHR0cDovL3d3dy5pZXRmLm9yZy9pZC9kcmFmdC16aGFuZy1wcHNwLXVzYWdlLTAw LnR4dA0KQ29tbWVudHMgYW5kIHN1Z2dlc3Rpb25zIGFyZSBtb3JlIHRoYW4gd2VsY29tZS4NClRo YW5rIHlvdSB2ZXJ5IG11Y2ijoQ0KDQotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KRmVpIFNvbmcNCj5EZWFyIGFs bCwNCj4NCj5QbGVhc2UgbGV0IFl1bmZlaSBhbmQgSSBrbm93IGlmIHlvdSBwbGFuIHRvIHByZXNl bnQgYW55IGRyYWZ0cyBpbiB0aGUgUFBTUCBXRyBzZXNzaW9uIGluIFRvcm9udG8uDQo+V2UgaGF2 ZSBwdXQgVHJhY2tlciBCYXNlIFByb3RvY29sIGFuZCBUcmFja2VyIEV4dGVuZGVkIFByb3RvY29s IGludG8gdGhlIGFnZW5kYSwgYnV0IG9idmlvdXNseSBoYXZlIGVub3VnaCB0aW1lIHRvIGFjY29t bW9kYXRlIG1vcmUgdG9waWNzICYgZHJhZnRzLi4uDQo+DQo+VGhhbmtzLg0KPg0KPi1ZdW5mZWkg JiBOaW5nDQo+ From nobody Tue Jul 1 18:44:46 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F181B27B5 for ; 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Wed, 02 Jul 2014 09:44:35 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee753b36401219-a0242 From: =?utf-8?B?6YKT54G16I6JL0xpbmdsaSBEZW5n?= To: "'fsong'" , "'Zongning'" , References: <604109602.03243@bjtu.edu.cn> <604261758.30941@bjtu.edu.cn> In-Reply-To: <604261758.30941@bjtu.edu.cn> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 09:44:36 +0800 Message-ID: <015e01cf9597$2ea5eca0$8bf1c5e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac+Vj3yUifZKqOf7TM2KAKub4Uko9gABuckg Content-Language: zh-cn Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ppsp/OeIf7NvRYm2Doi3f3Vbc8fz4VkE Cc: hishigh@sina.com Subject: Re: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 01:44:44 -0000 Hi Fei, This is an interesting draft. Thanks for set up this discussion for PPSP = operation. As for the parameter recommendations, I am wondering if it would help if = more information about the system you are targeting is provided? Would = the recommendations be dependent on the system settings, like the scale = of the system, etc.? You might also want to take a look at the extended tracker protocol, = which I believe aims to solve at least some of the issues you raised in = terms of the base tracker protocol. Lingli > -----Original Message----- > From: ppsp [mailto:ppsp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fei Song > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:49 AM > To: Zongning; ppsp@ietf.org > Cc: hishigh@sina.com > Subject: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP >=20 > Dear all=EF=BC=9A >=20 > We have submitted a new draft about usage of PPSP. > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-zhang-ppsp-usage-00.txt > Comments and suggestions are more than welcome. > Thank you very much=EF=BC=81 >=20 > -------------- > Fei Song > >Dear all, > > > >Please let Yunfei and I know if you plan to present any drafts in the = PPSP > WG session in Toronto. > >We have put Tracker Base Protocol and Tracker Extended Protocol into = the > agenda, but obviously have enough time to accommodate more topics & > drafts... > > > >Thanks. > > > >-Yunfei & Ning > > > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp From nobody Tue Jul 1 19:24:18 2014 Return-Path: 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ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 359FE1A0A8C for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 23:26:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.seas.upenn.edu (stamp.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.67.170]) (authenticated bits=0) by talbot.seas.upenn.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s636Qvcm009843 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 02:26:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 14:26:57 +0800 From: Di Wu To: ppsp@ietf.org Message-ID: <6c6a052ea7f9fdee6eaa946043500841@seas.upenn.edu> X-Sender: diwu2@seas.upenn.edu User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5400 definitions=5800 signatures=585085 X-PP-Spam-Details: rule=add_spam_details policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1111160001 definitions=main-1407030086 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ppsp/7ZjcPV0-OSZdstqzId1LYcY_4tI Subject: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 06:30:58 -0000 Dear Lingli, Sorry for the disturbance. I like your suggestion of the parameter setting in PPSP system. We will consider it and try to add more information about system in it. As for the extended tracker protocol, we have read it carefully before we started to work on the usage of PPSP. However, we think one of the aiming of usage is to record the current version of peer and tracker protocol. So this time the PPSP system settings' only based on the base tracker and peer protocol. Yet, the gap part will be rewritten according to the progress in our WG. Best, Di Wu From nobody Thu Jul 3 17:47:51 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87301B2BA9 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 17:47:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.252 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.252 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MANGLED_LOAN=2.3, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KzSXJhTTJyfb for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 17:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE2391B2B8B for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 17:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BJP55168; 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Fri, 04 Jul 2014 09:57:54 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee453b60a1e6de-f675b From: =?utf-8?B?6YKT54G16I6JL0xpbmdsaSBEZW5n?= To: "'Di Wu'" , References: <6c6a052ea7f9fdee6eaa946043500841@seas.upenn.edu> In-Reply-To: <6c6a052ea7f9fdee6eaa946043500841@seas.upenn.edu> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 09:57:54 +0800 Message-ID: <006a01cf972b$601fd300$205f7900$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac+WiFyUFWofXpndT5+Gz6umFJYJjAAoai7g Content-Language: zh-cn Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ppsp/GO2hUUwxs3ZPxQGRWn2UjlbzxOc Subject: Re: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 01:58:04 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: ppsp [mailto:ppsp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Di Wu > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:27 PM > To: ppsp@ietf.org > Subject: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP >=20 > Dear Lingli, >=20 > Sorry for the disturbance.=20 [=E9=82=93=E7=81=B5=E8=8E=89/Lingli Deng] Don't be. :) > I like your suggestion of the parameter > setting in PPSP system. We will consider it and try to add more > information about system in it. [=E9=82=93=E7=81=B5=E8=8E=89/Lingli Deng] Thanks. Will you be presenting = the discussion in Toronto? Looking forward to learning more about your = system. > As for the extended tracker protocol, we have read it carefully before > we started to work on the usage of PPSP. However, we think one of the > aiming of usage is to record the current version of peer and tracker > protocol. So this time the PPSP system settings' only based on the = base > tracker and peer protocol. Yet, the gap part will be rewritten = according > to the progress in our WG. [=E9=82=93=E7=81=B5=E8=8E=89/Lingli Deng] Fair enough. I suspect Rachel = will be reporting the latest progress on extended tracker protocol and = be happy to address your concerns regarding tracker protocol of course. >=20 > Best, > Di Wu >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp From nobody Thu Jul 3 19:25:27 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7091A0AE9 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 19:25:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.772 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.772 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03Y5pKzA__lh for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 19:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from talbot.seas.upenn.edu (talbotv6.seas.upenn.edu [IPv6:2607:f470:8:64:5ea5::2]) (using SSLv3 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37F391B2857 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 19:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.seas.upenn.edu (stamp.seas.upenn.edu [158.130.67.170]) (authenticated bits=0) by talbot.seas.upenn.edu (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s642PBBI005887 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 3 Jul 2014 22:25:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 10:25:11 +0800 From: Di Wu To: fsong , rachel.huang@huawei.com, ppsp@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <201407031731421187028@bjtu.edu.cn> References: <201407031731421187028@bjtu.edu.cn> Message-ID: X-Sender: diwu2@seas.upenn.edu User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5400 definitions=5800 signatures=585085 X-PP-Spam-Details: rule=add_spam_details policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1111160001 definitions=main-1407040030 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ppsp/khL27pFi2tWcJQ2dZ_L0Mlmq0z8 Subject: Re: [ppsp] Fw: RE: New draft for usage of PPSP X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 02:25:25 -0000 Hi, Dear Rachel, Thank you for your suggestion. Please see my respond in line. Best, Di Wu > FROM: Huangyihong (Rachel) > DATE: 2014-07-02 10:23 > TO: 邓灵莉/Lingli Deng; 'fsong'; Zongning; ppsp@ietf.org > CC: hishigh@sina.com > SUBJECT: RE: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP > > Hi Fei, > > As Lingli said, issue 4 and issue 5 have been addressed in the > extended tracker protocol. Extended tracker protocol extends the JOIN > message and STAT_REPORT message to include content information. > We'll submit the new version of extended tracker protocol soon before > the deadline. As I mentioned before, these usage of PPSP system are based on the current tracker and peer protocol, so as the gap part. We are looking forward to your new version of extended tracker protocol. > As for issue 6, I'm not sure that PPSP system should provide message > to change its PeerMode when the peer gets the whole content. If it > wants to become SEED, it can leave the swarm and join the swarm again > as SEED. As for issue 6, we think PPSP system should consider it to provided a better service for peers. However, I'm not sure of the real motivation for putting the PeerMode into system. > BR, > Rachel > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ppsp [mailto:ppsp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > 邓灵莉/Lingli Deng >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:45 AM >> To: 'fsong'; Zongning; ppsp@ietf.org >> Cc: hishigh@sina.com >> Subject: Re: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP >> >> Hi Fei, >> >> This is an interesting draft. Thanks for set up this discussion for > PPSP operation. >> As for the parameter recommendations, I am wondering if it would > help if more >> information about the system you are targeting is provided? Would > the >> recommendations be dependent on the system settings, like the scale > of the >> system, etc.? >> You might also want to take a look at the extended tracker protocol, > which I >> believe aims to solve at least some of the issues you raised in > terms of the base >> tracker protocol. >> >> Lingli >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: ppsp [mailto:ppsp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fei Song >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:49 AM >> > To: Zongning; ppsp@ietf.org >> > Cc: hishigh@sina.com >> > Subject: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP >> > >> > Dear all： >> > >> > We have submitted a new draft about usage of PPSP. >> > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-zhang-ppsp-usage-00.txt >> > Comments and suggestions are more than welcome. >> > Thank you very much！ >> > >> > -------------- >> > Fei Song >> > >Dear all, >> > > >> > >Please let Yunfei and I know if you plan to present any drafts in > the >> > >PPSP >> > WG session in Toronto. >> > >We have put Tracker Base Protocol and Tracker Extended Protocol > into >> > >the >> > agenda, but obviously have enough time to accommodate more topics > & >> > drafts... >> > > >> > >Thanks. >> > > >> > >-Yunfei & Ning >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ppsp mailing list >> > ppsp@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ppsp mailing list >> ppsp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp From nobody Thu Jul 3 22:43:15 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF11B1B2BE1 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 22:43:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.852 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.852 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] 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13:43:02 +0800 From: "Huangyihong (Rachel)" To: "ppsp@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-huang-ppsp-extended-tracker-protocol-06.txt Thread-Index: AQHPlziGI2nOC8+V40qwsWxU9DnSi5uPZtpQ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 05:43:02 +0000 Message-ID: <51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB861E9787@nkgeml501-mbs.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.138.41.144] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ppsp/Ud0rmPlBxdMG-lngwCVIpCfG0YA Subject: [ppsp] FW: New Version Notification for draft-huang-ppsp-extended-tracker-protocol-06.txt X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 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PPSP In-Reply-To: <51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB861E97AB@nkgeml501-mbs.china.huawei.com> References: <201407031731421187028@bjtu.edu.cn> <51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB861E97AB@nkgeml501-mbs.china.huawei.com> Message-ID: <28131bc31a9fb0e6454557323ab6f438@seas.upenn.edu> X-Sender: diwu2@seas.upenn.edu User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5400 definitions=5800 signatures=585085 X-PP-Spam-Details: rule=add_spam_details policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1111160001 definitions=main-1407040087 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ppsp/QLsRq7SU8SUPoZUDw9ZI1X5J-OY Subject: Re: [ppsp] Fw: RE: New draft for usage of PPSP X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 06:54:31 -0000 Hi again, Thank you very much! Please see below. Best, Di Wu On 2014-07-04 14:09, Huangyihong (Rachel) wrote: > Hi Di Wu, > > Please see inline. > > BR, > Rachel > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Di Wu [mailto:diwu2@seas.upenn.edu] >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 10:25 AM >> To: fsong; Huangyihong (Rachel); ppsp@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: Fw: RE: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP >> >> Hi, Dear Rachel, >> >> Thank you for your suggestion. Please see my respond in line. >> >> Best, >> Di Wu >> >> > FROM: Huangyihong (Rachel) >> > DATE: 2014-07-02 10:23 >> > TO: 邓灵莉/Lingli Deng; 'fsong'; Zongning; ppsp@ietf.org >> > CC: hishigh@sina.com >> > SUBJECT: RE: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP >> > >> > Hi Fei, >> > >> > As Lingli said, issue 4 and issue 5 have been addressed in the >> > extended tracker protocol. Extended tracker protocol extends the JOIN >> > message and STAT_REPORT message to include content information. >> > We'll submit the new version of extended tracker protocol soon before >> > the deadline. >> As I mentioned before, these usage of PPSP system are based on the >> current >> tracker and peer protocol, so as the gap part. We are looking forward >> to your >> new version of extended tracker protocol. > > [Rachel]: Extended tracker protocol has been updated. Your comments > are welcomed. >> >> > As for issue 6, I'm not sure that PPSP system should provide message >> > to change its PeerMode when the peer gets the whole content. If it >> > wants to become SEED, it can leave the swarm and join the swarm again >> > as SEED. >> As for issue 6, we think PPSP system should consider it to provided a >> better >> service for peers. > [Rachel]: Sure. I'm just explaining that base protocol could do it in > another way. Some peers may not want to share their content when they > finish downloading. If the ppsp system change it automatically. It > will be against those people's will. Let's see what WG thinks of it. > Yeah, you are right. But the way you illustrated is a little bit complex. That's why we put it into the limitation and gaps part. And as you explained below, the PeerMode usually used when a peer firstly connected to the tracker. Once they login to ppsp system and finished data transmission, the PeerMode may not represent their status. We are hoping to provide a simple way to solve this problem, which not defends peer's willing. For example, peers may change their PeerMode once they gets the whole content and are willing to share it with others via STAT_REPORT message. While another option is that PPSP system change it automatically (Just as you mentioned). For those people who are not willing to share the content, they could send CHONKE message to express their willing. >> However, I'm not sure of the real motivation for putting the >> PeerMode into system. > > [Rachel]: PeerMode could distinguish peers. When a peer connects to > the tracker, the tracker has to understand if it is to provide the > content sharing or it asks for the peer list to exchange content. They > are different process (see section 5.1 of base tracker protocol). > Thanks. I just read this part again. >> > BR, >> > Rachel >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: ppsp [mailto:ppsp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >> > 邓灵莉/Lingli Deng >> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:45 AM >> >> To: 'fsong'; Zongning; ppsp@ietf.org >> >> Cc: hishigh@sina.com >> >> Subject: Re: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP >> >> >> >> Hi Fei, >> >> >> >> This is an interesting draft. Thanks for set up this discussion for >> > PPSP operation. >> >> As for the parameter recommendations, I am wondering if it would >> > help if more >> >> information about the system you are targeting is provided? Would >> > the >> >> recommendations be dependent on the system settings, like the scale >> > of the >> >> system, etc.? >> >> You might also want to take a look at the extended tracker protocol, >> > which I >> >> believe aims to solve at least some of the issues you raised in >> > terms of the base >> >> tracker protocol. >> >> >> >> Lingli >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: ppsp [mailto:ppsp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fei Song >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 8:49 AM >> >> > To: Zongning; ppsp@ietf.org >> >> > Cc: hishigh@sina.com >> >> > Subject: [ppsp] New draft for usage of PPSP >> >> > >> >> > Dear all： >> >> > >> >> > We have submitted a new draft about usage of PPSP. >> >> > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-zhang-ppsp-usage-00.txt >> >> > Comments and suggestions are more than welcome. >> >> > Thank you very much！ >> >> > >> >> > -------------- >> >> > Fei Song >> >> > >Dear all, >> >> > > >> >> > >Please let Yunfei and I know if you plan to present any drafts in >> > the >> >> > >PPSP >> >> > WG session in Toronto. >> >> > >We have put Tracker Base Protocol and Tracker Extended Protocol >> > into >> >> > >the >> >> > agenda, but obviously have enough time to accommodate more topics >> > & >> >> > drafts... >> >> > > >> >> > >Thanks. >> >> > > >> >> > >-Yunfei & Ning >> >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > ppsp mailing list >> >> > ppsp@ietf.org >> >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> ppsp mailing list >> >> ppsp@ietf.org >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp From nobody Fri Jul 4 00:23:30 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3792F1B278A for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:23:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.852 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YWlsaW5nIGxpc3QNCj4+ID4+IHBwc3BAaWV0Zi5vcmcNCj4+ID4+IGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmlldGYu b3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vcHBzcA0KPg== From nobody Fri Jul 4 04:07:20 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936281B2D0A for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 04:07:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.03 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.03 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RELAY_IS_221=2.222, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fx_B8HCcHdak for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 04:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmccmta1.chinamobile.com (cmccmta1.chinamobile.com [221.176.66.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 351D51B2D06 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 04:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spf.mail.chinamobile.com (unknown[172.16.121.9]) by rmmx-syy-dmz-app02-12002 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee253b68ac5706-4c706; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 19:06:45 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee253b68ac5706-4c706 Received: from cmccPC (unknown[10.2.43.183]) by rmsmtp-syy-appsvr05-12005 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee553b68ac19bc-f9a21; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 19:06:45 +0800 (CST) X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee553b68ac19bc-f9a21 From: =?UTF-8?B?6YKT54G16I6JL0xpbmdsaSBEZW5n?= To: "'Huangyihong \(Rachel\)'" , "'Di Wu'" , "'Fei Song'" , "'PPSP'" References: <201407031731421187028@bjtu.edu.cn> <51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB861E97AB@nkgeml501-mbs.china.huawei.com> <28131bc31a9fb0e6454557323ab6f438@seas.upenn.edu> <51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB861E981E@nkgeml501-mbs.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB861E981E@nkgeml501-mbs.china.huawei.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 19:06:47 +0800 Message-ID: <00b801cf9778$0ca7d8b0$25f78a10$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AQHPly85Y6Q1cnqzF0exT9tQigkR9JuPZ1Sw//+NqACAAIldAIAADjDw Content-Language: zh-cn Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ppsp/8ixDMsxE51U2ek6L3tfXlFMsTK8 Subject: Re: [ppsp] Fw: RE: New draft for usage of PPSP X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 11:07:15 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: ppsp [mailto:ppsp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Huangyihong > (Rachel) > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 3:23 PM > To: Di Wu; Fei Song; PPSP > Subject: Re: [ppsp] Fw: RE: New draft for usage of PPSP >=20 > Hi Di Wu, >=20 > I take out the parts we agree on. Please see Inline. >=20 > BR, > Rachel > > >> > As for issue 6, I'm not sure that PPSP system should provide > > >> > message to change its PeerMode when the peer gets the whole > > >> > content. If it wants to become SEED, it can leave the swarm and > > >> > join the swarm again as SEED. > > >> As for issue 6, we think PPSP system should consider it to = provided a > > >> better service for peers. > > > [Rachel]: Sure. I'm just explaining that base protocol could do it = in > > > another way. Some peers may not want to share their content when = they > > > finish downloading. If the ppsp system change it automatically. It > > > will be against those people's will. Let's see what WG thinks of = it. > > > > > Yeah, you are right. But the way you illustrated is a little bit = complex. That's > > why we put it into the limitation and gaps part. And as you = explained below, > the > > PeerMode usually used when a peer firstly connected to the tracker. = Once > they > > login to ppsp system and finished data transmission, the PeerMode = may > not > > represent their status. We are hoping to provide a simple way to = solve this > > problem, which not defends peer's willing. For example, peers may = change > > their PeerMode once they gets the whole content and are willing to = share it > > with others via STAT_REPORT message. While another option is that = PPSP > > system change it automatically (Just as you mentioned). For those = people > who > > are not willing to share the content, they could send CHONKE message = to > > express their willing. > > > [Rachel] It's a implementation v.s. protocol issue. IMO, we don't have = to > complex the protocol in order to simplify the implementation. So I = think my > option and your last option is acceptable, while the option to change > STAT_REPORT is unnecessary. [=E9=82=93=E7=81=B5=E8=8E=89/Lingli Deng] Just for discussion, I am = afraid that I don't like the option by sending CHOKE, which means that = the peer is being visible to other peers against its explicit will. > _______________________________________________ > ppsp mailing list > ppsp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp From nobody Wed Jul 9 10:03:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ppsp@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CCCA1A020B; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 10:03:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lavv9PUuUhPL; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 10:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C4A1A0062; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 10:03:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Richard Barnes" To: The IESG X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.0.p2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140709170317.32254.77889.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:03:17 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ppsp/FeapGRe5gsfpMAQRLTmallmdTeM Cc: ppsp@ietf.org, draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol@tools.ietf.org, ppsp-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: [ppsp] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: ppsp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: discussing to draw up peer to peer streaming protocol List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:03:19 -0000 Richard Barnes has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol-10: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-peer-protocol/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My DISCUSS here is based mainly on the readability of the document, which seems bad enough to be an impediment to interoperability. As far as I can tell, this document does not define a protocol, in the sense of a set of actions required to achieve a given objective. Instead, it presents a pile of piece parts with a couple of combinations, and notes that these combinations could be used to achieve, e.g., live streaming. (In the language of patents, it has not been "reduced to practice".) What are the steps an implementation follows to join a swarm? To connect to a new peer and request chunks? The pieces seem to be here, but the big picture is completely absent. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "In general, no error codes or responses are used in the protocol; absence of any response indicates an error." -- This made me do a bit of a double-take. Obviously, the requesting peer should timeout if the responding peer doesn't respond, but are there really no cases where the responding peer knows there's a problem and wants to report it? It seems like the CHOKE message is an indication of this sort. 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