From psamp-bounces@ietf.org Mon Oct 20 09:00:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: psamp-text-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-psamp-text-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8E128C0E2; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:00:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: psamp@ietf.org Delivered-To: psamp@core3.amsl.com Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id BC0E93A6826; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:00:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081020160001.BC0E93A6826@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: psamp@ietf.org Subject: [PSAMP] I-D Action:draft-ietf-psamp-info-11.txt X-BeenThere: psamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This mailing list is used for discussion within the IETF packet sampling \(PSAMP\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: psamp-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: psamp-bounces@ietf.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Packet Sampling Working Group of the IETF. Title : Information Model for Packet Sampling Exports Author(s) : T. Dietz, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-psamp-info-11.txt Pages : 55 Date : 2008-10-20 This memo defines an information model for the Packet Sampling (PSAMP) protocol. It is used by the PSAMP protocol for encoding sampled packet data and information related to the Sampling process. As the PSAMP protocol is based on the IPFIX protocol, this information model is an extension to the IPFIX information model.Conventions used in this document The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119 [RFC2119]. 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I would assume that it does not make sense to allow many many more Selection Sequences than Selectors. Regards, Gerhard --=20 Dipl.-Ing. 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, List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: psamp-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: psamp-bounces@ietf.org Dear authors of PSAMP-INFO and PSAMP-SELECT, Please check if you have an answer on this question. Thanks, Juergen On 28.10.08 15:26 "Gerhard Muenz" wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there a reason for having > - selectionSequenceId of type unsigned64 and > - selectorId of type unsigned16? > > I would assume that it does not make sense to allow many many more > Selection Sequences than Selectors. > > Regards, > Gerhard _______________________________________________ PSAMP mailing list PSAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/psamp From psamp-bounces@ietf.org Thu Oct 30 09:37:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: psamp-text-archive@optimus.ietf.org Delivered-To: ietfarch-psamp-text-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A378E3A69DB; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:37:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: psamp@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: psamp@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177593A69C7 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:37:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rate2JWWjsg1 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from av-tac-bru.cisco.com (odd-brew.cisco.com [144.254.15.119]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB59B3A6842 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:37:51 -0700 (PDT) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id m9UGbec08778; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:37:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.61.103.6] (dhcp-10-61-103-6.cisco.com [10.61.103.6]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id m9UGbQG08496; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:37:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4909E2C5.1010507@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:37:25 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gerhard Muenz References: <49072120.7000907@net.in.tum.de> In-Reply-To: <49072120.7000907@net.in.tum.de> Cc: psamp Subject: Re: [PSAMP] PSAMP info: selectionSequenceId X-BeenThere: psamp@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This mailing list is used for discussion within the IETF packet sampling \(PSAMP\) WG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1500517962==" Sender: psamp-bounces@ietf.org Errors-To: psamp-bounces@ietf.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1500517962== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080308010505010407040707" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080308010505010407040707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerhard Muenz wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a reason for having > - selectionSequenceId of type unsigned64 and > - selectorId of type unsigned16? > > I would assume that it does not make sense to allow many many more > Selection Sequences than Selectors. > Actually, we will have more selectionSequenceId than selectorId because each different observation point will require a different selectionSequenceId, even if the sequence of selectorId is the same. Now, on the top that, we require some more selectionSequenceId if the order of the selectorIds is changed. selectionSequenceId Description: From all the packets observed at an Observation Point, a subset of the packets is selected by a sequence of one or more Selectors. The selectionSequenceId is a unique value _per Observation Domain, specifying the Observation Point and the sequence of Selectors through which the packets are selected_. Regards, Benoit. > Regards, > Gerhard > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > PSAMP mailing list > PSAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/psamp > --------------080308010505010407040707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerhard Muenz wrote: 
Hi,

Is there a reason for having
- selectionSequenceId of type unsigned64 and
- selectorId of type unsigned16?

I would assume that it does not make sense to allow many many more
Selection Sequences than Selectors.
Actually, we will have more selectionSequenceId than selectorId because each different observation point will require a different selectionSequenceId, even if the sequence of selectorId is the same. Now, on the top that, we require some more selectionSequenceId if the order of the selectorIds is changed.

selectionSequenceId

   Description:

      From all the packets observed at an Observation Point, a subset of
      the packets is selected by a sequence of one or more Selectors.
      The selectionSequenceId is a unique value per Observation Domain,
      specifying the Observation Point and the sequence of Selectors
      through which the packets are selected.

Regards, Benoit.

Regards,
Gerhard

  

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