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The IESG discussed psamp-info in the telechat yesterday. We had a number
of comments and one DISCUSS from the other IESG members that were all
solved before and during the meeting due to the excellent on-line
cooperation with Juergen and with the editors. See the RFC Editor notes
that reflect these discussions and the solutions proposed to solve the
concerns from the other ADs.

The document was not approved however because IANA asked for one more
day to look at the IANA considerations and understand the actions that
are required from IANA. I am holding a last DISCUSS until they come back
to us and let us know if there are any more issues to solve or the
document can be approved as is. I hope that no last minute hurdles will
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 Congratulations to the editors, chair and the whole working group for
achieving this milestone. No less than other seven documents in psamp
and ipfix had dependencies on this I-D!

Dan


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The IESG has approved the following document:

- 'Information Model for Packet Sampling Exports '
   <draft-ietf-psamp-info-11.txt> as a Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Packet Sampling Working Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ron Bonica.

A URL of this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-psamp-info-11.txt

Technical Summary

   This memo defines an information model for the Packet Sampling
   (PSAMP) protocol.  It is used by the PSAMP protocol for encoding
   sampled packet data and information related to the Sampling process.
   As the PSAMP protocol is based on the IPFIX protocol, this
   information model is an extension to the IPFIX information model.

Working Group Summary

   There is consensus in the WG to publish these documents.

Document Quality

   Several of the Information Elements defined in this document have
   already been implemented by academic as well as industrial 
   institutions, but not all of them have been implemented and tested,
   yet.

Personnel

   Juergen Quittek is shepherding this document. Dan Romascanu is the
   responsible Area director. Juergen Quittek will be the principal
   expert for the  selectorAlgorithm registry working with IANA.  

RFC Editor Note

 1. Insert in section 1, after the second paragraph the following
paragraph: 

NEW: 

Although the PSAMP charter specified no requirements for measuring
packet errors (such as drops, malformed, etc.), and this draft does not
cover such data, if there is need for collecting and exporting packet
error information, the appropriate Information Elements can be requested
from IANA, and exported with the PSAMP protocol. 

2. in Section 8.2.4.  samplingTimeInterval
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The IESG has approved the following document:

- 'Information Model for Packet Sampling Exports '
   <draft-ietf-psamp-info-11.txt> as a Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Packet Sampling Working Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ron Bonica.

A URL of this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-psamp-info-11.txt

Technical Summary

   This memo defines an information model for the Packet Sampling
   (PSAMP) protocol.  It is used by the PSAMP protocol for encoding
   sampled packet data and information related to the Sampling process.
   As the PSAMP protocol is based on the IPFIX protocol, this
   information model is an extension to the IPFIX information model.

Working Group Summary

   There is consensus in the WG to publish these documents.

Document Quality

   Several of the Information Elements defined in this document have
   already been implemented by academic as well as industrial 
   institutions, but not all of them have been implemented and tested,
   yet.

Personnel

   Juergen Quittek is shepherding this document. Dan Romascanu is the
   responsible Area director. Juergen Quittek will be the principal
   expert for the  selectorAlgorithm registry working with IANA.  

RFC Editor Note

 1. Insert in section 1, after the second paragraph the following
paragraph: 

NEW: 

Although the PSAMP charter specified no requirements for measuring packet
errors (such as drops, malformed, etc.), and this draft does not cover
such data, if there is need for collecting and exporting packet error
information, the appropriate Information Elements can be requested from
IANA, and exported with the PSAMP protocol. 

2. in Section 8.2.4.  samplingTimeInterval
OLD:
   Abstract Data Type:  dateTimeMicroseconds
NEW:
   Abstract Data Type:  unsigned32


3. in Section 8.2.5.  samplingTimeSpace
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Benoit and I started a discussion on how hash function parameters are to be specified in the IPFIX/PSAMP configuration draft, which Juergen suggested we move to the mailing list.

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Benoit,

Thanks.

More generally, I think the mapping between SELECTOR_PARAMETERS items in PSAMP-tech, and the corresponding elements in the configuration model, should be unambiguously recorded in the standard.

Possible options: (i) uniformize the names across both drafts, or (ii) have comments in the configuration document that make it clear which item from psamp-tech is referred to.

Nick



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Benoit Claise [mailto:bclaise@cisco.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:23 PM
> To: DUFFIELD, NICHOLAS G (NICK)
> Cc: 'Juergen Quittek'; Zseby, Tanja; Gerhard Muenz; Benoit Claise
> Subject: Re: configuration of hash function in PSAMP
>
> Nick,
>
> > Actually this may well be is OK as is: the initvalues for hash functions
> are specified in PSAMP-tech (32bit number when used), and the config draft
> appears include all the items needed to specify
> >
> > mask for hash input
> > (headerBits, payloadBytes, payloadBits)
> >
> > initvalues
> > Benoit: is this inputBits? Please confirm.
> >
> These inputBits come from "Input bits" in PSAMP-TECH.
> Please post this to the mailing list so that everybody is aware.
>
> Regards, Benoit.
> >
> > draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-01.txt:
> > container filterHash {
> >           description "In PSAMP-MIB, function and funcParam are OIDs.";
> >           leaf addrType { type inet:ip-version; }
> >           leaf headerBits { type string; }
> >           leaf payloadBytes { type uint32; }
> >           leaf payloadBits { type string; }
> >           leaf function { type string; }
> >           leaf funcParam { type string; }
> >           leaf inputBits { type uint32; }
> >           leaf outputBits { type uint32; }
> >           leaf outputMask { type string; }
> >           leaf selection { type string; }
> >         }
> >
> > draft-ietf-psamp-sample-tech-11.txt:
> > Case Hashing:
> >        - Hash Domain (Input bits from packet)
> >             - <Header type = IPv4>
> >             - <Input bit specification, header part>
> >             - <Header type =  IPv6>
> >             - <Input bit specification, header part>
> >             - <payload byte number N>
> >             - <Input bit specification, payload part>
> >        - Hash Function
> >             - Hash function name
> >             - Length of input key (eliminate 0x bytes)
> >             - Output value (length M and bitmask)
> >             - Hash Selection Range, as a list of non overlapping
> >               intervals [start value, end value] where value is in
> >               [0,2^M-1]
> >             - Additional parameters dependent on specific Hash
> >               Function (e.g. hash input bits (seed))
> >
> >
> >

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Subject: Re: [PSAMP] configuration of hash function in PSAMP
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Hi,

Just to make this clear: The PSAMP parameters of the configuration model
are adopted from the PSAMP MIB document. The only difference is the
match filter, where the configuration model uses other parameter names
(ieId instead of fieldId) and allows ieName and enterpriseNumber as
well. Of course, ieName does not make sense the MIB. enterpriseNumber
could be added to the MIB as well.

So, I suggest that you discuss an update of PSAMP MIB. After that, the
changes can be adopted to the configuration draft accordingly.

Regards,
Gerhard

DUFFIELD, NICHOLAS G (NICK) wrote:
> Benoit and I started a discussion on how hash function parameters are t=
o be specified in the IPFIX/PSAMP configuration draft, which Juergen sugg=
ested we move to the mailing list.
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> Benoit,
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> Thanks.
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> More generally, I think the mapping between SELECTOR_PARAMETERS items i=
n PSAMP-tech, and the corresponding elements in the configuration model, =
should be unambiguously recorded in the standard.
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> Possible options: (i) uniformize the names across both drafts, or (ii) =
have comments in the configuration document that make it clear which item=
 from psamp-tech is referred to.
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> Nick
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Benoit Claise [mailto:bclaise@cisco.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 5:23 PM
>> To: DUFFIELD, NICHOLAS G (NICK)
>> Cc: 'Juergen Quittek'; Zseby, Tanja; Gerhard Muenz; Benoit Claise
>> Subject: Re: configuration of hash function in PSAMP
>>
>> Nick,
>>
>>> Actually this may well be is OK as is: the initvalues for hash functi=
ons
>> are specified in PSAMP-tech (32bit number when used), and the config d=
raft
>> appears include all the items needed to specify
>>> mask for hash input
>>> (headerBits, payloadBytes, payloadBits)
>>>
>>> initvalues
>>> Benoit: is this inputBits? Please confirm.
>>>
>> These inputBits come from "Input bits" in PSAMP-TECH.
>> Please post this to the mailing list so that everybody is aware.
>>
>> Regards, Benoit.
>>> draft-ietf-ipfix-configuration-model-01.txt:
>>> container filterHash {
>>>           description "In PSAMP-MIB, function and funcParam are OIDs.=
";
>>>           leaf addrType { type inet:ip-version; }
>>>           leaf headerBits { type string; }
>>>           leaf payloadBytes { type uint32; }
>>>           leaf payloadBits { type string; }
>>>           leaf function { type string; }
>>>           leaf funcParam { type string; }
>>>           leaf inputBits { type uint32; }
>>>           leaf outputBits { type uint32; }
>>>           leaf outputMask { type string; }
>>>           leaf selection { type string; }
>>>         }
>>>
>>> draft-ietf-psamp-sample-tech-11.txt:
>>> Case Hashing:
>>>        - Hash Domain (Input bits from packet)
>>>             - <Header type =3D IPv4>
>>>             - <Input bit specification, header part>
>>>             - <Header type =3D  IPv6>
>>>             - <Input bit specification, header part>
>>>             - <payload byte number N>
>>>             - <Input bit specification, payload part>
>>>        - Hash Function
>>>             - Hash function name
>>>             - Length of input key (eliminate 0x bytes)
>>>             - Output value (length M and bitmask)
>>>             - Hash Selection Range, as a list of non overlapping
>>>               intervals [start value, end value] where value is in
>>>               [0,2^M-1]
>>>             - Additional parameters dependent on specific Hash
>>>               Function (e.g. hash input bits (seed))
>>>
>>>
>>>
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