From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Wed Nov 02 20:15:07 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EXTh5-0001zf-K7 for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:15:07 -0500 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA20157 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:14:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1EXTae-0003Bh-6F for psamp-data@psg.com; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 01:08:28 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from [195.37.70.21] (helo=kyoto.netlab.nec.de) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1EXTac-0003BJ-QU for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2005 01:08:27 +0000 Received: from dialin-145-254-119-051.pools.arcor-ip.net (dialin-145-254-119-051.pools.arcor-ip.net [145.254.119.51]) by kyoto.netlab.nec.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BE71BAC4D for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2005 02:08:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 02:08:35 +0100 From: Juergen Quittek To: psamp@ops.ietf.org Subject: draft meeting agenda Message-ID: <5F13868DCCA6F5709C032EA8@dialin-145-254-119-051.pools.arcor-ip.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, Below please find the draft agenda for our session in Vancouver. Please send me a message if you have suggestions for changes. With so many agenda items, I would be great if we know in advance that there will be a minute taker at the session. Are there any volunteers? See you at the session, Juergen -- Juergen Quittek quittek@netlab.nec.de Tel: +49 6221 90511-15 NEC Europe Ltd., Network Laboratories Fax: +49 6221 90511-55 Kurfuersten-Anlage 36, 69115 Heidelberg, Germany http://www.netlab.nec.de Packet Sampling WG (psamp) IETF #64 Thursday November 10 at 1300-1500 ================================= Chair: Juergen Quittek AGENDA: 1) Agenda bashing, WG Status, IPFIX documents status ( 5 min) 2) New results of hash function evaluation (10 min) (Nick Duffield) 3) PSAMP protocol (Benoit Claise) (30 min) - draft-ietf-psamp-protocol-02.txt 4) PSAMP information model (Paul Aitken) (20 min) - draft-ietf-psamp-info-03.txt 5) PSAMP MIB (10 min) - draft-ietf-psamp-mib-05.txt 6) Use of IPFIX for Export of Per-Packet Information (10 min) - draft-boschi-export-perpktinfo-01.txt 7) IPFIX inplementation guidelines (Elisa Boschi) (10 min) - draft-boschi-ipfix-implementation-guidelines-00.txt 8) Path-coupled meter configuration (Ali Fessi) (10 min) - draft-fessi-nsis-m-nslp-framework-02.txt - draft-dressler-nsis-metering-nslp-03.txt 9) Passive measurement and IPPM composition of metrics (10 min) (Emile Stefan) - draft-stephan-isp-templates-01.txt - draft-stephan-multimetrics-02.txt 10) Wrap up ( 5 min) - review of action points INTERNET DRAFTS: Packet Sampling (PSAMP) Protocol Specifications http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-psamp-protocol-02.txt Information Model for Packet Sampling Exports http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-psamp-info-03.txt Definitions of Managed Objects for Packet Sampling http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-psamp-mib-05.txt RELATED DRAFTS: IPFIX Protocol Specification http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-protocol-19.txt Information Model for IP Flow Information Export http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ipfix-info-11 Use of IPFIX for Export of Per-Packet Information http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-boschi-export-perpktinfo-01.txt IPFIX Implementation Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-boschi-ipfix-implementation-guidelines-00.txt Framework for Metering NSLP http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-fessi-nsis-m-nslp-framework-02.txt NSLP for Metering Configuration Signaling http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dressler-nsis-metering-nslp-03.txt IPFIX templates for common ISP usages http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stephan-isp-templates-01.txt IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) for spatial and multicast http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stephan-ippm-multimetrics-02.txt -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Mon Nov 14 10:21:25 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Ebg97-0003vz-LF for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:21:25 -0500 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id KAA28731 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:20:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1EbfzQ-0004Pn-Mh for psamp-data@psg.com; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:11:24 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DATE_IN_PAST_12_24 autolearn=no version=3.1.0 Received: from [144.254.15.119] (helo=av-tac-bru.cisco.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.52 (FreeBSD)) id 1EbfzP-0004Pa-Qt for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:11:24 +0000 X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id jAEFBMQ02865 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:11:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.21.121.255] (sjc-vpn6-511.cisco.com [10.21.121.255]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id jAEFBLC19114 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2005 16:11:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4377DDCF.4040103@cisco.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 18:43:59 -0600 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psamp Subject: Measurement Process -> Metering Process Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tanja, Nick, and al. Regarding the "Measurement Process -> Metering Process" issue discussed during the IETF meeting, I understand that: - the Measurement Process definition disappears - we replace all instances of Measurement Process by (IPFIX) Metering Process - we keep the Selection Process I was not too clear about the following point: - do we keep the Reporting Process? There is actually no information about it (no such thing such as Reporting Process ID) This is just a concept, right? Regards, Benoit. -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Thu Nov 24 12:03:04 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EfKUy-0008NX-8Z for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:03:04 -0500 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA28105 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:02:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EfKQ9-0009VT-DX for psamp-data@psg.com; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 16:58:05 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from [144.254.15.119] (helo=av-tac-bru.cisco.com) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1EfKQ6-0009VF-Kn for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 16:58:03 +0000 X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from strange-brew.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-bru.cisco.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id jAOGw1R12712 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:58:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.61.81.153] (ams-clip-vpn-dhcp4506.cisco.com [10.61.81.153]) by strange-brew.cisco.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id jAOGw1C21295 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:58:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4385F0ED.9070300@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 17:57:17 +0100 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psamp Subject: Missing IANA Considerations in draft-ietf-psamp-sample-tech-07.txt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I just realized that draft-ietf-psamp-sample-tech-07.txt has no "IANA Considerations" section. I'm pretty sure that it will be part of the IESG feedback... :) Regards, Benoit. -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: From owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Mon Nov 28 03:16:46 2005 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1EgeBq-0004x7-Qk for psamp-archive@megatron.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:16:46 -0500 Received: from psg.com (mailnull@psg.com [147.28.0.62]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id DAA27960 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by psg.com with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Ege6S-000BFp-AC for psamp-data@psg.com; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:11:12 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on psg.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 Received: from [195.37.70.21] (helo=kyoto.netlab.nec.de) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Ege6R-000BFc-Mk for psamp@ops.ietf.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:11:11 +0000 Received: from [10.1.1.171] (mito.netlab.nec.de [195.37.70.39]) by kyoto.netlab.nec.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E841BAC4D for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:11:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:11:02 +0100 From: Juergen Quittek To: psamp@ops.ietf.org Subject: reporting dropped packets Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-psamp@ops.ietf.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, I just got a question from people working on small time scale packet loss measurement. They are interested in detailed measurement of packet loss. Do the PSAMP documents support the export of packets dropped at the PSAMP device? In Section '6.3 Router State Filtering' of the packet selection draft this is addressed in general, but not specifically. Also I wonder how such a filter (selecting packets to be dropped only) would be represented in the PSAMP MIB. Any thoughts? Thanks, Juergen -- to unsubscribe send a message to psamp-request@ops.ietf.org with the word 'unsubscribe' in a single line as the message text body. archive: