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  Branch: refs/heads/main
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials
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      https://github.com/quicwg/wg-materials/commit/a56bde184823f7e1a71d6dea2fef52d8711a2037
  Author: Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>
  Date:   2021-07-01 (Thu, 01 Jul 2021)

  Changed paths:
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  Log Message:
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  Update agenda.md



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The Insert Count should be 3 at this point (before inserting duplicated header)
It should become 4 after this duplication
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  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4922

-- Commit Summary --

  * Fix Insert Count from 4 to 3

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (2)

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<p>The Insert Count should be 3 at this point (before inserting duplicated header)<br>
It should become 4 after this duplication</p>

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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href='https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4922'>https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4922</a></p>

<h4>Commit Summary</h4>
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  <li>Fix Insert Count from 4 to 3</li>
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    <strong>M</strong>
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The Insert Count should be 3 at this point (before inserting duplicated header)
It should become 4 after this duplication

Is my understanding correct?
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  * Fix Insert Count from 4 to 3

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    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (2)

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<p>The Insert Count should be 3 at this point (before inserting duplicated header)<br>
It should become 4 after this duplication</p>
<p>Is my understanding correct?</p>

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  <li>Fix Insert Count from 4 to 3</li>
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I don't believe that this is correct.  The table has three insertions before this point, so the new count is 4 (this is consistent with the "Required Insert Count = 4" that follows in the example.



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<p>I don't believe that this is correct.  The table has three insertions before this point, so the new count is 4 (this is consistent with the "Required Insert Count = 4" that follows in the example.</p>

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  Clarify meaning of 0 in the datagram transport parameter

Clarify meaning of 0 in the datagram transport parameter, based on the discussion at IETF 110. This follows one of the suggestions to have 0 mean no datagrams, and > 0 mean support for datagrams. This should be a non-breaking change with existing implementations.


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I deduced my correction from dumped dynamic table.
This duplicate instruction looks trying to duplicate header of :authority=www.example.com as shown in dumped dynamic table.
This absolute index is 0 as I corrected.
The original absolute index of 1 is pointing to :path=/sample/path, looks wrong.

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<p>I deduced my correction from dumped dynamic table.<br>
This duplicate instruction looks trying to duplicate header of :authority=www.example.com as shown in dumped dynamic table.<br>
This absolute index is 0 as I corrected.<br>
The original absolute index of 1 is pointing to :path=/sample/path, looks wrong.</p>

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@martinthomson approved this pull request.

Oh, I see my mistake.  Yes, this is right: this is the calculation for the absolute index, which is indeed 0 (and not 1).  Thanks for explaining.  This needs to use the insert count *before* the duplicated entry is added.  The rest of the example is correct.



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<p>Oh, I see my mistake.  Yes, this is right: this is the calculation for the absolute index, which is indeed 0 (and not 1).  Thanks for explaining.  This needs to use the insert count <em>before</em> the duplicated entry is added.  The rest of the example is correct.</p>

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  Changed paths:
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I&#39;ve had to make some changes in the template to deal with some odd
regressions in CircleCI (see
https://github.com/martinthomson/i-d-template/issues/293 for details).
This is the updated configuration.
You can view, comment on, or merge this pull request online at:

  https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4924

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    M .circleci/config.yml (7)

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<p>I've had to make some changes in the template to deal with some odd<br>
regressions in CircleCI (see<br>
<a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="925635849" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/martinthomson/i-d-template/issues/293" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/martinthomson/i-d-template/issues/293/hovercard" href="https://github.com/martinthomson/i-d-template/issues/293">martinthomson/i-d-template#293</a> for details).<br>
This is the updated configuration.</p>

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    <a href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/4924/files#diff-78a8a19706dbd2a4425dd72bdab0502ed7a2cef16365ab7030a5a0588927bf47">.circleci/config.yml</a>
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  Branch: refs/heads/circle-is-busted
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  Changed paths:
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  Revert BCP14 thing


  Commit: 69b5ad91273bd2d7ce368e66cda6e566ca15a555
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@martinthomson pushed 2 commits.

89bde755a9fdd8ed6a11fe962eceaa9025db88a2  Revert BCP14 thing
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Yeah, given how this breaks in Circle; that's probably wise.

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  Branch: refs/heads/main
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  CircleCI configuration update

I've had to make some changes in the template to deal with some odd
regressions in CircleCI (see
https://github.com/martinthomson/i-d-template/issues/293 for details).
This is the updated configuration.


  Commit: 89bde755a9fdd8ed6a11fe962eceaa9025db88a2
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  Revert BCP14 thing


  Commit: 69b5ad91273bd2d7ce368e66cda6e566ca15a555
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  Commit: 97883129e5aaba82a64e74b2852a6913adc0a14c
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  Move to GitHub Actions


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  Merge pull request #4924 from quicwg/circle-is-busted

CircleCI configuration update


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I found this to still be very confusing, FWIW. It's unclear why the limit would be 1200 bytes when the text very clearly explains that at least 1232 can be relied upon, or alternatively why the text claims "QUIC assumes a minimum IP packet size of at least 1280 bytes." when in fact it appears to only mandate a 32 bytes smaller figure. It reads like someone forgot to update a constant.

@martinthomson above suggests that this was intentional, to leave space for unspecified future use by lower layers. I think *some* allusion to this is justified, just to clarify the otherwise seeming inconsistency.

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<p>I found this to still be very confusing, FWIW. It's unclear why the limit would be 1200 bytes when the text very clearly explains that at least 1232 can be relied upon, or alternatively why the text claims "QUIC assumes a minimum IP packet size of at least 1280 bytes." when in fact it appears to only mandate a 32 bytes smaller figure. It reads like someone forgot to update a constant.</p>
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Not your fault.  The change is valid, but there is a system error (I've corrected it, so I might rerun the build to clear the problem).

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Thanks for catching this.  Can you resubmit to kick the ci?

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<p>Thanks for catching this.  Can you resubmit to kick the ci?</p>

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@afrind You mean create new PR?

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7beef7ae77693b6265ca97a42d4c61da282c4405  Fix Insert Count from 4 to 3


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  Branch: refs/heads/main
  Home:   https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts
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      https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/commit/8387fc9754416dfe33f715b8490049ea242e8d37
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  Changed paths:
    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md

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  Fix Insert Count from 4 to 3



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The index should be 3
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  * Fix absolute index from 4 to 3

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<p>The index should be 3</p>

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This is for QPACK, so we still have some time for final fixups before needing errata

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Transport acks != application processing


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  * Remove duplicated &quot;becomes unblocked when the Insert Count&quot;

-- File Changes --

    M draft-ietf-quic-qpack.md (5)

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  <li>Remove duplicated &quot;becomes unblocked when the Insert Count&quot;</li>
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Noticed this minor editorial issue, I think this was a typo.
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  * Fix typo in GOAWAY frame encoding

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<p>Noticed this minor editorial issue, I think this was a typo.</p>

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The use of "SHOULD NOT" implies that a) this is discretionary, and b)
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I don't believe that either is true unless the protocol were specified
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Drop the text on acknowledgments.

Closes #26.
Closes #24.

Then modify the congestion control thing to make the benefit clearer.  A
unified congestion controller can be more efficient.


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  Merge pull request #38 from quicwg/tfpauly-patch-3

Note retransmission logic difference in security considerations


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  Branch: refs/heads/main
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  Author: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
  Date:   2021-07-16 (Fri, 16 Jul 2021)

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  Correct client validation

In light of discussion in slack, the problem here is that the validation
is based on the *negotiated* version.  Validation needs to be based on
the client's *selected* version.

I've also moved text about validating lack of support for the original
version to the incompatible VN section, alongside a reminder to validate
connection IDs.  Security does depend on this, but the client ignores
these bad VN packets.  That provides more effective defense against
attack than what was proposed.


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  Date:   2021-07-16 (Fri, 16 Jul 2021)

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  Add some references


  Commit: 78ddb8aa2446078fbd8bd4b6b6843882f9d35781
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  Fix dead ref


  Commit: 63fdeba6e6a7306381779f930d2dc801989e4fcf
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  Date:   2021-07-19 (Mon, 19 Jul 2021)

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  Only validate Other Versions if VN occurred


  Commit: 64e22632cb8a18d46cb03cf4a8318a1be322adee
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  Date:   2021-07-20 (Tue, 20 Jul 2021)

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  Commit: f369534c4c7e8d3082e77480663b7c79964850d2
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  Author: David Schinazi <DavidSchinazi@users.noreply.github.com>
  Date:   2021-07-25 (Sun, 25 Jul 2021)

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  Merge pull request #49 from martinthomson/client-validation

Client validation


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  Tweak the intro

The "single round trip" thing isn't really a guarantee given various
factors.  Setting this up as *additional* round trips is cleaner and
more accurate.  I adjusted the paragraph structure to match.


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Tweak the intro


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Though it might be the oldest version that is compatible with the
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  Merge pull request #51 from martinthomson/not-oldest

Don't choose the oldest


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In section ["Server Packet Handling"](https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9000#section-5.2.2)
>    If a server receives a packet that indicates an unsupported version
   and if the packet is **large enough** to initiate a new connection for
   any supported version, the server SHOULD send a Version Negotiation
   packet as described in Section 6.1.  A server MAY limit the number of
   packets to which it responds with a Version Negotiation packet.
   **Servers MUST drop smaller packets** that specify unsupported versions.

What is the threshold for "large enough" and "smaller" packets? Dropping "smaller" packets seem to be a requirement, but how small is "smaller"? If that is implementation dependent, then it should have been mentioned as such.

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<p>In section <a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9000#section-5.2.2" rel="nofollow">"Server Packet Handling"</a></p>
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<p>If a server receives a packet that indicates an unsupported version<br>
and if the packet is <strong>large enough</strong> to initiate a new connection for<br>
any supported version, the server SHOULD send a Version Negotiation<br>
packet as described in Section 6.1.  A server MAY limit the number of<br>
packets to which it responds with a Version Negotiation packet.<br>
<strong>Servers MUST drop smaller packets</strong> that specify unsupported versions.</p>
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<p>What is the threshold for "large enough" and "smaller" packets? Dropping "smaller" packets seem to be a requirement, but how small is "smaller"? If that is implementation dependent, then it should have been mentioned as such.</p>

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@LPardue observed a seeming conflict in the requirements around unknown unidirectional stream types.

Section 9 says:
> Implementations MUST discard frames and abort reading on unidirectional streams that have unknown or unsupported types.

This has two problems.  First and editorial, if the type is unknown/unsupported, the presence of frames can't be determined.  This should refer to discarding any data, not frames specifically.  Second, it appears to disagree with Section 6.2:

> If the stream header indicates a stream type that is not supported by the recipient, the remainder of the stream cannot be consumed as the semantics are unknown. Recipients of unknown stream types MAY abort reading of the stream with an error code of H3_STREAM_CREATION_ERROR or a reserved error code (Section 8.1), but MUST NOT consider such streams to be a connection error of any kind.

I think the intent was MUST abort, but MAY pick an error code.  Looking at the history of the commits in Section 6.2, it was first MUST abort, then SHOULD use a particular code, then became MAY use the specific code with the prohibition on blowing up the whole connection.  The text should clarify the scope of the MAY.

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<p>This has two problems.  First and editorial, if the type is unknown/unsupported, the presence of frames can't be determined.  This should refer to discarding any data, not frames specifically.  Second, it appears to disagree with Section 6.2:</p>
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<p>I think the intent was MUST abort, but MAY pick an error code.  Looking at the history of the commits in Section 6.2, it was first MUST abort, then SHOULD use a particular code, then became MAY use the specific code with the prohibition on blowing up the whole connection.  The text should clarify the scope of the MAY.</p>

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Current design of server push relies on the client being capable of associating two streams: a stream that triggers push (i.e. the stream on which PUSH_PROMISE was sent) and a stream that conveys the pushed response (i.e. the push stream carrying Push Stream Header). Push ID is used for associating the two streams.

However, there is no mechanism that guarantees the delivery of Push ID for neither of the two streams. Both PUSH_PROMISE and Push Stream Header may get lost when the server resets the stream or when the client requests the server to stop sending.

If either signal is lost, the client fails to associate the information that was received on the other side that was not lost, and ends up retaining the other side forever.

Originally reported by @tatsuhiro-t on the [mailing list thread](https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/xL43yic8sSnjbofCpEcVYn0RNlw/). Examples that lead up to this problem can be found in [this email](https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/xL43yic8sSnjbofCpEcVYn0RNlw/) and [this](https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/zoDiBQ08Pp5AXODzXOjBrNbxksc/).

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<p>Current design of server push relies on the client being capable of associating two streams: a stream that triggers push (i.e. the stream on which PUSH_PROMISE was sent) and a stream that conveys the pushed response (i.e. the push stream carrying Push Stream Header). Push ID is used for associating the two streams.</p>
<p>However, there is no mechanism that guarantees the delivery of Push ID for neither of the two streams. Both PUSH_PROMISE and Push Stream Header may get lost when the server resets the stream or when the client requests the server to stop sending.</p>
<p>If either signal is lost, the client fails to associate the information that was received on the other side that was not lost, and ends up retaining the other side forever.</p>
<p>Originally reported by <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/tatsuhiro-t/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/tatsuhiro-t">@tatsuhiro-t</a> on the <a href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/xL43yic8sSnjbofCpEcVYn0RNlw/" rel="nofollow">mailing list thread</a>. Examples that lead up to this problem can be found in <a href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/xL43yic8sSnjbofCpEcVYn0RNlw/" rel="nofollow">this email</a> and <a href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/zoDiBQ08Pp5AXODzXOjBrNbxksc/" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>

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To fix the issue, we have to meet the following two requirements:
1. PUSH_PROMISE never gets lost, and
2. Require either of the following two:
  a. servers to make sure that Push Stream Headers are delivered to the client and clients never send STOP_SENDING frames for push streams until it receives Push Stream Headers, or
  b. change the push identifier to a value that can be guaranteed to be delivered even when the push stream is reset at any moment.

We can meet requirement 1 by sending PUSH_PROMISE on the control stream.

For requirement 2, the difficulty of _a_ is that there's no way of HTTP/3 stacks telling if something is delivered to the client at the transport level. We could introduce an HTTP/3-level acknowledgement frame much like we do in QPACK, but that's going to be complicated.

For option _b_, we might consider getting rid of Push ID and send the stream ID of the push stream on the PUSH_PROMISE frames. We require QUIC stacks to either guarantee the delivery of FIN or RESET_STREAM for the streams that have been used by the sender. The problem here would be that, at the moment, we do not require QUIC stacks have an API to notify HTTP/3 stacks that a stream has been reset when not a single byte of data have been received (we can assume that HTTP/3 stacks would be notified of resets once some bytes have been received and provided to the HTTP/3 stacks). But maybe fixing this would be easier than option _a_.

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<p>To fix the issue, we have to meet the following two requirements:</p>
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<li>PUSH_PROMISE never gets lost, and</li>
<li>Require either of the following two:<br>
a. servers to make sure that Push Stream Headers are delivered to the client and clients never send STOP_SENDING frames for push streams until it receives Push Stream Headers, or<br>
b. change the push identifier to a value that can be guaranteed to be delivered even when the push stream is reset at any moment.</li>
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<p>We can meet requirement 1 by sending PUSH_PROMISE on the control stream.</p>
<p>For requirement 2, the difficulty of <em>a</em> is that there's no way of HTTP/3 stacks telling if something is delivered to the client at the transport level. We could introduce an HTTP/3-level acknowledgement frame much like we do in QPACK, but that's going to be complicated.</p>
<p>For option <em>b</em>, we might consider getting rid of Push ID and send the stream ID of the push stream on the PUSH_PROMISE frames. We require QUIC stacks to either guarantee the delivery of FIN or RESET_STREAM for the streams that have been used by the sender. The problem here would be that, at the moment, we do not require QUIC stacks have an API to notify HTTP/3 stacks that a stream has been reset when not a single byte of data have been received (we can assume that HTTP/3 stacks would be notified of resets once some bytes have been received and provided to the HTTP/3 stacks). But maybe fixing this would be easier than option <em>a</em>.</p>

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With removing push ID and using stream ID, we are no longer able to share a push stream with multiple streams and there is no limit for PUSH_PROMISE.
If that is acceptable, then there is an another option: create a push stream first and send PUSH_PROMISE to it.  This way, all information is in one place.  To cancel a push stream, just  STOP_SENDING by receiver or RESET_STREAM by sender to a push stream.  CANCEL_PUSH is not needed anymore.

Yet another option is drop server push from draft entirely.  Leave it to a future extension draft with a concrete mitigation.


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<p>With removing push ID and using stream ID, we are no longer able to share a push stream with multiple streams and there is no limit for PUSH_PROMISE.<br>
If that is acceptable, then there is an another option: create a push stream first and send PUSH_PROMISE to it.  This way, all information is in one place.  To cancel a push stream, just  STOP_SENDING by receiver or RESET_STREAM by sender to a push stream.  CANCEL_PUSH is not needed anymore.</p>
<p>Yet another option is drop server push from draft entirely.  Leave it to a future extension draft with a concrete mitigation.</p>

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> With removing push ID and using stream ID, we are no longer able to share a push stream with multiple streams and there is no limit for PUSH_PROMISE.
> If that is acceptable ...

I'm not sure if I agree with your observations, due to the following two reasons:
* We can still have many PUSH_PROMISEs refer to one push stream. That's fine because we are only changing the stream on which PUSH_PROMISEs are sent, and because we have had one-to-(zero-or-)one relationship between push IDs and stream IDs. As the relationship has been one-to-one, the change is no more than changing the numbering scheme.
* We can still limit the number of concurrent PUSH_PROMISEs inflight. That is because we would have a guarantee that all PUSH_PROMISEs would be delivered, and because the "stream-state of" all the push streams referred to by the PUSH_PROMISEs would also be delivered. To paraphrase, clients can track how many pushes are being opened as well as when they are closed.

> Yet another option is drop server push from draft entirely. 

I did not want to bring that option to the table, but it works for me. Considering the fact that we did not notice this design issue until as late as now, it is questionable if we are really the right people to design this feature, now.

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<p>With removing push ID and using stream ID, we are no longer able to share a push stream with multiple streams and there is no limit for PUSH_PROMISE.<br>
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<p>I'm not sure if I agree with your observations, due to the following two reasons:</p>
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<li>We can still have many PUSH_PROMISEs refer to one push stream. That's fine because we are only changing the stream on which PUSH_PROMISEs are sent, and because we have had one-to-(zero-or-)one relationship between push IDs and stream IDs. As the relationship has been one-to-one, the change is no more than changing the numbering scheme.</li>
<li>We can still limit the number of concurrent PUSH_PROMISEs inflight. That is because we would have a guarantee that all PUSH_PROMISEs would be delivered, and because the "stream-state of" all the push streams referred to by the PUSH_PROMISEs would also be delivered. To paraphrase, clients can track how many pushes are being opened as well as when they are closed.</li>
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<p>Yet another option is drop server push from draft entirely.</p>
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<p>I did not want to bring that option to the table, but it works for me. Considering the fact that we did not notice this design issue until as late as now, it is questionable if we are really the right people to design this feature, now.</p>

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> Yet another option is drop server push from draft entirely. Leave it to a
> future extension draft with a concrete mitigation.
>
I strongly support this proposal. We are quite late in the process to be
rethinking how push works, and as a consequence are unlikely to have
significant deployment experience with whatever new design we come up with.
As a result, I think we are unlikely to have a deep understanding of the
performance implications in time. I think it would be wise to punt this to
an extension.

Cheers,

Ryan

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On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 1:31 AM Tatsuhiro Tsujikawa &lt;<br>
***@***.***&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Yet another option is drop server push from draft entirely. Leave it to a<br>
&gt; future extension draft with a concrete mitigation.<br>
&gt;<br>
I strongly support this proposal. We are quite late in the process to be<br>
rethinking how push works, and as a consequence are unlikely to have<br>
significant deployment experience with whatever new design we come up with.<br>
As a result, I think we are unlikely to have a deep understanding of the<br>
performance implications in time. I think it would be wise to punt this to<br>
an extension.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Ryan<br>
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> I'm not sure if I agree with your observations, due to the following two reasons:

I misunderstand your description of option b, that is I wrongly thought that just the associated stream ID is set in PUSH_PROMISE, which leads me to the wrong observation.  Sorry for the noise.

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<p>I misunderstand your description of option b, that is I wrongly thought that just the associated stream ID is set in PUSH_PROMISE, which leads me to the wrong observation.  Sorry for the noise.</p>

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@tatsuhiro-t No need to say sorry. Rather, I think we have to thank you for noticing the issue because otherwise we might have ended up shipping something broken.

Besides, option _b_ is indeed complex. I hope we have a simpler fix that we can apply, but for me, option _b_ was as hard as I could go.

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<p>Besides, option <em>b</em> is indeed complex. I hope we have a simpler fix that we can apply, but for me, option <em>b</em> was as hard as I could go.</p>

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I also support moving this to a future extension, given the discussion above.

I'll note that we made the decision as a WG to ship 'h3' when the transport drafts shipped.  I think that greatly limits the scope of any changes we can make to the existing push design using the existing SETTING.

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<p>I'll note that we made the decision as a WG to ship 'h3' when the transport drafts shipped.  I think that greatly limits the scope of any changes we can make to the existing push design using the existing SETTING.</p>

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Is the issue mitigated if the client has a timer for any half-pushes (promise with no stream or stream with no promise) and cancels them if they are not "joined" before the timeout?

Note that a client probably should have such a timer anyways, since a broken or malicious server could otherwise just send one of the two push components but not the other.

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<p>Is the issue mitigated if the client has a timer for any half-pushes (promise with no stream or stream with no promise) and cancels them if they are not "joined" before the timeout?</p>
<p>Note that a client probably should have such a timer anyways, since a broken or malicious server could otherwise just send one of the two push components but not the other.</p>

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  Branch: refs/heads/main
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  Changed paths:
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  Add minutes.

It's the minutes.



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I second @afrind's proposal -- a malicious server can always cause this problem, and it warrants text in Security Considerations.  The fact that this situation can occur accidentally as well doesn't change what's required.

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> Is the issue mitigated if the client has a timer for any half-pushes (promise with no stream or stream with no promise) and cancels them if they are not "joined" before the timeout?
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> Note that a client probably should have such a timer anyways, since a broken or malicious server could otherwise just send one of the two push components but not the other.

That's a good point. The other mitigation would be to reopen an HTTP/3 connection once in a while. By doing such things, clients can clean up garbage.

But I think there might be a different failure mode that cannot be covered.

Let's say that for a given Push ID, both PUSH_PROMISE and the Push Stream were lost. Then, the client is never send a CANCEL_PUSH for that Push ID, even though the server has already used that ID.

If the client is designed to support a constant number of concurrent pushes, and this happens, then the server loses room for initiating new pushes without the client noticing that.

Perhaps the most probable case of us hitting this failure mode would be clients fetching resources speculatively and then cancelling them frequently. If a server tries to associate a push against such a request, and then tries to cancel the pushed request when the client cancels the client-initiated request that initiated the push, then there's chance the client does not receive neither of the two signals.

This silent loss of room to push might be an issue for HTTP applications that are designed on the presumption that a server would always have room to push, assuming that the client updates MAX_PUSH_ID as it receives new pushes.

All that said, I do agree that none of the failure modes are severe. Endpoints do not end up in a state where they are forced to close the HTTP/3 connection while client-issued requests are inflight. Therefore, I think I would not argue against writing down the problems and shipping HTTP/3 with server push, if that's the preference of the working group.

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<p>Is the issue mitigated if the client has a timer for any half-pushes (promise with no stream or stream with no promise) and cancels them if they are not "joined" before the timeout?</p>
<p>Note that a client probably should have such a timer anyways, since a broken or malicious server could otherwise just send one of the two push components but not the other.</p>
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<p>That's a good point. The other mitigation would be to reopen an HTTP/3 connection once in a while. By doing such things, clients can clean up garbage.</p>
<p>But I think there might be a different failure mode that cannot be covered.</p>
<p>Let's say that for a given Push ID, both PUSH_PROMISE and the Push Stream were lost. Then, the client is never send a CANCEL_PUSH for that Push ID, even though the server has already used that ID.</p>
<p>If the client is designed to support a constant number of concurrent pushes, and this happens, then the server loses room for initiating new pushes without the client noticing that.</p>
<p>Perhaps the most probable case of us hitting this failure mode would be clients fetching resources speculatively and then cancelling them frequently. If a server tries to associate a push against such a request, and then tries to cancel the pushed request when the client cancels the client-initiated request that initiated the push, then there's chance the client does not receive neither of the two signals.</p>
<p>This silent loss of room to push might be an issue for HTTP applications that are designed on the presumption that a server would always have room to push, assuming that the client updates MAX_PUSH_ID as it receives new pushes.</p>
<p>All that said, I do agree that none of the failure modes are severe. Endpoints do not end up in a state where they are forced to close the HTTP/3 connection while client-issued requests are inflight. Therefore, I think I would not argue against writing down the problems and shipping HTTP/3 with server push, if that's the preference of the working group.</p>

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What @kazuho says reminds me of some of the text we added in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-quic-http-34#section-6.2 to speak to the fact that connections could be degraded based on some certain interactions of the protocol.

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Can you help me understand how that would happen?

- Server sends PUSH_PROMISE on stream A, delivers the resource on stream B.
- Network loses packet(s) containing the PUSH_PROMISE frame and the Push ID.
- Client aborts stream A, which causes the PUSH_PROMISE never to be received.
- **\*\*\*Catastrophe occurs\*\*\***, causing the client to STOP_SENDING and discard Stream B.
- Server receives STOP_SENDING, sends RESET_STREAM on B, and never retransmits the Push ID.

It's that middle part that I don't get.  It's not clear why the client would discard a stream until it sees the type and the Push ID to determine it's not useful.  If the server is resetting the stream independently, we already encourage servers to send CANCEL_PUSH in this circumstance for exactly this reason:

> A server sends CANCEL_PUSH to indicate that it will not be fulfilling a promise which was previously sent. The client cannot expect the corresponding promise to be fulfilled, unless it has already received and processed the promised response. **Regardless of whether a push stream has been opened, a server SHOULD send a CANCEL_PUSH frame when it determines that promise will not be fulfilled.**

What I would expect to happen instead is:

- Server sends PUSH_PROMISE on stream A, delivers the resource on stream B.
- Network loses packet(s) containing the PUSH_PROMISE frame and the Push ID.
- Client aborts stream A, which causes the PUSH_PROMISE never to be received.
- Client *doesn't* abort stream B, so the Push ID is retransmitted.  When the client finds the unknown ID, it considers the ID consumed and starts the timer suggested by @afrind.

Do we simply need a corresponding SHOULD NOT abort reading until you've seen the stream type, and SHOULD NOT abort reading a push stream until you've seen the Push ID?

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<p>Can you help me understand how that would happen?</p>
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<li>Server sends PUSH_PROMISE on stream A, delivers the resource on stream B.</li>
<li>Network loses packet(s) containing the PUSH_PROMISE frame and the Push ID.</li>
<li>Client aborts stream A, which causes the PUSH_PROMISE never to be received.</li>
<li><strong>***Catastrophe occurs***</strong>, causing the client to STOP_SENDING and discard Stream B.</li>
<li>Server receives STOP_SENDING, sends RESET_STREAM on B, and never retransmits the Push ID.</li>
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<p>It's that middle part that I don't get.  It's not clear why the client would discard a stream until it sees the type and the Push ID to determine it's not useful.  If the server is resetting the stream independently, we already encourage servers to send CANCEL_PUSH in this circumstance for exactly this reason:</p>
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<p>A server sends CANCEL_PUSH to indicate that it will not be fulfilling a promise which was previously sent. The client cannot expect the corresponding promise to be fulfilled, unless it has already received and processed the promised response. <strong>Regardless of whether a push stream has been opened, a server SHOULD send a CANCEL_PUSH frame when it determines that promise will not be fulfilled.</strong></p>
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<p>What I would expect to happen instead is:</p>
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<li>Server sends PUSH_PROMISE on stream A, delivers the resource on stream B.</li>
<li>Network loses packet(s) containing the PUSH_PROMISE frame and the Push ID.</li>
<li>Client aborts stream A, which causes the PUSH_PROMISE never to be received.</li>
<li>Client <em>doesn't</em> abort stream B, so the Push ID is retransmitted.  When the client finds the unknown ID, it considers the ID consumed and starts the timer suggested by <a class="user-mention" data-hovercard-type="user" data-hovercard-url="/users/afrind/hovercard" data-octo-click="hovercard-link-click" data-octo-dimensions="link_type:self" href="https://github.com/afrind">@afrind</a>.</li>
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<p>Do we simply need a corresponding SHOULD NOT abort reading until you've seen the stream type, and SHOULD NOT abort reading a push stream until you've seen the Push ID?</p>

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Tried to clarify the ALPN part of my presentation.



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I think an endpoint has right to cancel or abort new stream to protect itself due to memory pressure or high load.  The RFC9000 allows an endpoint not to send STOP_SENDING without passing data to app (we can require QUIC stack to pass such data in this case as discussed in ml) if it sees fin and server does not notice that pushed stream is silently rejected.  Even if client sends STOP_SENDING, by the time STOP_SENDING is received by the server, it has finished processing the pushed stream and forgets about it.  I imagine that if QUIC stack provides BSD socket-like interface and HTTP/3 server writes all data and can clear the memory without waiting for an acknowledgement.


That said, if we ensure that client gets either PUSH_PROMISE or push ID in pushed stream, timer works.  One concern to this approach is the impact to connection-level flow control credit.  If client holds pushed stream until corresponding PUSH_PROMISE is received, it might not give back flow control credit to server, which means decreased flow control window until timer fires.
How much it costs depends on the settings.  The current text says it should give at least 1024 bytes to a remote endpoint, so if 100 such pushed streams are held, 100k is spent for these streams until timer fires.  This is a bit extreme case however.  Given the possibilities that this occurs, it is probably not a severe problem.


As for using timers for the counter measures to broken or malicious servers, I'm not sure the timer is needed.  If client cancels pushes when timer fires, those servers just open another pushes and quickly create the same situation again.


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<p>I think an endpoint has right to cancel or abort new stream to protect itself due to memory pressure or high load.  The RFC9000 allows an endpoint not to send STOP_SENDING without passing data to app (we can require QUIC stack to pass such data in this case as discussed in ml) if it sees fin and server does not notice that pushed stream is silently rejected.  Even if client sends STOP_SENDING, by the time STOP_SENDING is received by the server, it has finished processing the pushed stream and forgets about it.  I imagine that if QUIC stack provides BSD socket-like interface and HTTP/3 server writes all data and can clear the memory without waiting for an acknowledgement.</p>
<p>That said, if we ensure that client gets either PUSH_PROMISE or push ID in pushed stream, timer works.  One concern to this approach is the impact to connection-level flow control credit.  If client holds pushed stream until corresponding PUSH_PROMISE is received, it might not give back flow control credit to server, which means decreased flow control window until timer fires.<br>
How much it costs depends on the settings.  The current text says it should give at least 1024 bytes to a remote endpoint, so if 100 such pushed streams are held, 100k is spent for these streams until timer fires.  This is a bit extreme case however.  Given the possibilities that this occurs, it is probably not a severe problem.</p>
<p>As for using timers for the counter measures to broken or malicious servers, I'm not sure the timer is needed.  If client cancels pushes when timer fires, those servers just open another pushes and quickly create the same situation again.</p>

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The protection is against keeping the memory around indefinitely, even after the stream has been closed.  It's definitely true that a server can consume as much memory with spurious pushes as the client allows it to open streams.

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<p>The protection is against keeping the memory around indefinitely, even after the stream has been closed.  It's definitely true that a server can consume as much memory with spurious pushes as the client allows it to open streams.</p>

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Note that all of these recommendations are SHOULD NOT -- an implementation under memory pressure might choose to discard data aggressively, even at the risk of degrading the connection state.  Closes #4930.
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<p>Note that all of these recommendations are SHOULD NOT -- an implementation under memory pressure might choose to discard data aggressively, even at the risk of degrading the connection state.  <span class="issue-keyword tooltipped tooltipped-se" aria-label="This pull request closes issue #4930.">Closes</span> <a class="issue-link js-issue-link" data-error-text="Failed to load title" data-id="955314716" data-permission-text="Title is private" data-url="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4930" data-hovercard-type="issue" data-hovercard-url="/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4930/hovercard" href="https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/4930">#4930</a>.</p>

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> @@ -1193,6 +1198,10 @@ Push Stream Header {
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+A client SHOULD NOT abort reading on a push stream prior to reading the Push ID,

```suggestion
A client SHOULD NOT abort reading a push stream prior to reading the Push ID,
```

maybe?

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Thanks Mike. The change looks fine to me, I'll let others debate the finer details.

Assuming this is the preferred direction, I'd ask that we hold the PR and not merge it until all the process stuff is in hand.

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@MikeBishop Thank you! I think your explanation and the PR are correct.

Push Streams carry the response part of a server push. The lack of the response is indicated by CANCEL_PUSH. We would have the guarantee that either one would be noticed by the client, if we require clients to always read at least up to the Push ID field of a Push Stream. I see that requirement being added by the PR, as a recommendation (SHOULD). That strength seems to be consistent with other requirements that we have.

PUSH_PROMISE sends the request headers of a server push. But unlike the response part, there is no way of signalling the potential lack of. Hence, a timer is needed. I also see that in the PR.

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<p>Push Streams carry the response part of a server push. The lack of the response is indicated by CANCEL_PUSH. We would have the guarantee that either one would be noticed by the client, if we require clients to always read at least up to the Push ID field of a Push Stream. I see that requirement being added by the PR, as a recommendation (SHOULD). That strength seems to be consistent with other requirements that we have.</p>
<p>PUSH_PROMISE sends the request headers of a server push. But unlike the response part, there is no way of signalling the potential lack of. Hence, a timer is needed. I also see that in the PR.</p>

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Thanks.  I think that the first change is the key change here; the latter changes are probably not a good idea.  Instead, I would note that if the client does abort reading (for either request streams or push streams) then this risks loss of any push ID that might have been sent, which might lead to timeouts.



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<p>Thanks.  I think that the first change is the key change here; the latter changes are probably not a good idea.  Instead, I would note that if the client does abort reading (for either request streams or push streams) then this risks loss of any push ID that might have been sent, which might lead to timeouts.</p>

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