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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies. This draft is a work item of the RADIUS EXTensions Working Group of th=
e IETF.

	Title           : RADIUS attributes for IPv6 Access Networks
	Author(s)       : Benoit Lourdelet
                          Wojciech Dec
                          Behcet Sarikaya
                          Glen Zorn
                          David Miles
	Filename        : draft-ietf-radext-ipv6-access-07.txt
	Pages           : 14
	Date            : 2012-05-07

   This document specifies additional IPv6 RADIUS attributes useful in
   residential broadband network deployments.  The attributes, which are
   used for authorization and accounting, enable assignment of a host
   IPv6 address and IPv6 DNS server address via DHCPv6; assignment of an
   IPv6 route announced via router advertisement; assignment of a named
   IPv6 delegated prefix pool; and assignment of a named IPv6 pool for
   host DHCPv6 addressing.



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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the RADIUS EXTensions Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : RADIUS attributes for IPv6 Access Networks
	Author(s)       : Benoit Lourdelet
                          Wojciech Dec
                          Behcet Sarikaya
                          Glen Zorn
                          David Miles
	Filename        : draft-ietf-radext-ipv6-access-07.txt
	Pages           : 14
	Date            : 2012-05-07

   This document specifies additional IPv6 RADIUS attributes useful in
   residential broadband network deployments.  The attributes, which are
   used for authorization and accounting, enable assignment of a host
   IPv6 address and IPv6 DNS server address via DHCPv6; assignment of an
   IPv6 route announced via router advertisement; assignment of a named
   IPv6 delegated prefix pool; and assignment of a named IPv6 pool for
   host DHCPv6 addressing.



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Folks,

The I-D has been revised to reflect the comments regarding the=20
attribute format and the example broadband network scenario.
Everybody happy with the changes in Sections 2, 2.3 and 3.3 ?

- Jouni & Mauricio


On May 7, 2012, at 3:01 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

>=20
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
directories. This draft is a work item of the RADIUS EXTensions Working =
Group of the IETF.
>=20
> 	Title           : RADIUS attributes for IPv6 Access Networks
> 	Author(s)       : Benoit Lourdelet
>                          Wojciech Dec
>                          Behcet Sarikaya
>                          Glen Zorn
>                          David Miles
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-radext-ipv6-access-07.txt
> 	Pages           : 14
> 	Date            : 2012-05-07
>=20
>   This document specifies additional IPv6 RADIUS attributes useful in
>   residential broadband network deployments.  The attributes, which =
are
>   used for authorization and accounting, enable assignment of a host
>   IPv6 address and IPv6 DNS server address via DHCPv6; assignment of =
an
>   IPv6 route announced via router advertisement; assignment of a named
>   IPv6 delegated prefix pool; and assignment of a named IPv6 pool for
>   host DHCPv6 addressing.
>=20


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Folks,

The I-D has been revised to reflect the comments regarding the 
attribute format and the example broadband network scenario.
Everybody happy with the changes in Sections 2, 2.3 and 3.3 ?

- Jouni & Mauricio


On May 7, 2012, at 3:01 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the RADIUS EXTensions Working Group of the IETF.
> 
> 	Title           : RADIUS attributes for IPv6 Access Networks
> 	Author(s)       : Benoit Lourdelet
>                          Wojciech Dec
>                          Behcet Sarikaya
>                          Glen Zorn
>                          David Miles
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-radext-ipv6-access-07.txt
> 	Pages           : 14
> 	Date            : 2012-05-07
> 
>   This document specifies additional IPv6 RADIUS attributes useful in
>   residential broadband network deployments.  The attributes, which are
>   used for authorization and accounting, enable assignment of a host
>   IPv6 address and IPv6 DNS server address via DHCPv6; assignment of an
>   IPv6 route announced via router advertisement; assignment of a named
>   IPv6 delegated prefix pool; and assignment of a named IPv6 pool for
>   host DHCPv6 addressing.
> 

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This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes for IE=
EE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG for publication=
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The document is available for inspection here:
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext

The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If you have =
comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See below for sum=
mary of instructions.

Thanks,
Mauricio and Jouni

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This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes for IE=
EE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG for publication=
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The document is available for inspection here:
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext

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comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See below for sum=
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Thanks,
Mauricio and Jouni

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http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/minutes/minutes-83-radext.txt

- Mauricio and Jouni

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Meeting notes up have been uploaded for our meeting at IETF 83.  Thanks to Stefan for acting as scribe.  Any corrections/modifications welcome prior to May 14.

http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/minutes/minutes-83-radext.txt

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#108: Incorrect author email address

 Email of one of the listed authors, Jouni Malinen, no longer operational.
 Email to listed address bounces with 'does not exist' error.  Request the
 author information for all be validated.

-- 
--------------------------------+------------------------
 Reporter:  mauricio.sanchez@…  |      Owner:
     Type:  defect              |     Status:  new
 Priority:  trivial             |  Milestone:  milestone1
Component:  IEEE802-Attrs       |    Version:  1.0
 Severity:  In WG Last Call     |   Keywords:
--------------------------------+------------------------

Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/ticket/108>
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#108: Incorrect author email address


Comment (by j@…):

 It's not only the email address but all the contact info for me has not
 really been valid for years (the initial parts for this draft were started
 quite some time ago.. ;-).

 In the "Authors' Addresses" section, it would probably be easiest to
 include just my current email address:

 Jouni Malinen
 EMail: j@w1.fi

 The company affiliation in the beginning of the document was correct at
 the time the initial draft was prepared, but it is not valid anymore. I'm
 not sure whether IETF has a policy on how to handle this type of cases,
 but either the company name could be removed or left as-is with just the
 authors' addresses section updated.

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 Reporter:  mauricio.sanchez@…  |       Owner:
     Type:  defect              |      Status:  new
 Priority:  trivial             |   Milestone:  milestone1
Component:  IEEE802-Attrs       |     Version:  1.0
 Severity:  In WG Last Call     |  Resolution:
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Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/ticket/108#comment:1>
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FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on this
document would be very useful. 

Regards,

Dan




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> Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE
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> This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG for
> publication as a proposed standard RFC.
> 
> The document is available for inspection here:
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
> 
> The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If you
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> 
> Thanks,
> Mauricio and Jouni
> 
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FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on this
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Regards,

Dan




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http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/minutes/minutes-83-radext.txt

<quote> 3. RADIUS Accounting Extensions of Traffic Statistics, Leaf Yeh 
-http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yeh-radext-ext-traffic-statistics
-"Design-3" (identical to approach in draft-winter-radext-fancyaccounting) uses TLV data type.
-Discussions revealed the fundamental question for go-ahead: should we define accounting attribute just for IPv6 accounting, or a generically re-usable approach to allow accounting after arbitrary criteria?
-Question will be discussed in the course of re-chartering. </quote>


1. Yes, draft-yeh-radext-ext-traffic-statistics-02 adopted TLV as the data type for the new (container) attribute, Acct-Traffic-Statistics, per the new basic data type of TLV defined in draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions and the expert insistence of Stafen & Alan.

2. I still don't think that to 'define accounting attribute just for IPv6 accounting' can meet the whole requirement of the reporting on the IPv4/IPv6 separated and combined traffic statistics, which was presented & reviewed in the RADEXT session of IETF82, Taipei. Pls. refer to http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/82/slides/radext-2.pptx and Section 9.4 of BBF TR-187. 

If we only define new attribute just for IPv6, we might use this new attribute to report the separated IPv6 traffic statistics, and might use 

42 Acct-Input-Octets [RFC2866]
43 Acct-Output-Octets [RFC2866]
47 Acct-Input-Packets [RFC2866]
48 Acct-Output-Packets [RFC2866]
52 Acct-Input-Gigawords [RFC2869]
53 Acct-Output-Gigawords [RFC2869]

to report the separated IPv4 traffic statistics, but then to report the IPv4/IPv6 combined traffic statistics? Or we do the calculation at the RADIUS server side. I supposed the above 6 attributes might be recommended to report the IPv4/IPv6 combined traffic statistics in Section 9.4 of BBF TR-187.

3. As I mentioned in my presentation (http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-radext-1.pdf ) at the RADEXT session of IETF83, Paris, to adopt nesting-TLV as the data type for the new defined attribute, Acct-Traffic-Statistics, in the extended type space might gain the extensibility for the future possible refined usage. 

For example, if we intend to report the traffic statistics associated with DSCP, Differentiated Services Code Point, we might include a new sub-attribute in the Group to refine the traffic-type (or we call it stack-type). It sounds a new field in the complex data structure, which at last turns to be a new attribute in the group of nesting-TLV. 

The question to the WG might be whether it is necessary to present DSCP in the traffic statistics. I guess it is not harmful if we defined DSCP attribute now, because the operator still can choose not to use it now. Look forward to your further discussion and comments on it.

I've introduced this item to WG more than 1 year from IETF80 (http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/radext-5.pdf ). Really hope it could be published as a work group item soon.


Best Regards,
Leaf Yeh

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Meeting notes up have been uploaded for our meeting at IETF 83.  Thanks to Stefan for acting as scribe.  Any corrections/modifications welcome prior to May 14.

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You may also want to include 802.11

Paul

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On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com> wrote:
FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on this
document would be very useful.

Regards,

Dan




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> 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
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> know).
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You may also want to include 802.11

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On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com> wrote:
FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
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Regards,

Dan




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>
> This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG for
> publication as a proposed standard RFC.
>
> The document is available for inspection here:
> http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
>
> The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If you
> have comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See
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>
> Thanks,
> Mauricio and Jouni
>
> 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
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> functionality (such as an additional requirement).
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> For example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
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> know).
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Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody
who can do it? 

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);
> radext@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for
> IEEE802Networks"
> 
> You may also want to include 802.11
> 
> Paul
> 
> -- Sent from my HP TouchPad
> ________________________________
> On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com>
> wrote:
> FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
> believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on
> this
> document would be very useful.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM
> > To: radext@ietf.org
> > Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE
> > 802Networks"
> >
> > This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> > for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG
for
> > publication as a proposed standard RFC.
> >
> > The document is available for inspection here:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
> >
> > The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If
you
> > have comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See
> > below for summary of instructions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mauricio and Jouni
> >
> > 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
> > RADEXT WG site on the tools server:
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> of
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I
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Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody
who can do it?=20

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);
> radext@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for
> IEEE802Networks"
>=20
> You may also want to include 802.11
>=20
> Paul
>=20
> -- Sent from my HP TouchPad
> ________________________________
> On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com>
> wrote:
> FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
> believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on
> this
> document would be very useful.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Dan
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM
> > To: radext@ietf.org
> > Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE
> > 802Networks"
> >
> > This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> > for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG
for
> > publication as a proposed standard RFC.
> >
> > The document is available for inspection here:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
> >
> > The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If
you
> > have comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See
> > below for summary of instructions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mauricio and Jouni
> >
> > 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
> > RADEXT WG site on the tools server:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login
> > 2.       If you don't already have a login ID, you can obtain one by
> > navigating to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin
> > 3.       Once you have obtained an account, and have logged in, you
> can
> > file an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry
> > form:http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket
> > 4.       When opening an issue:
> > a.       The Type: field should be set to "defect" for an issue with
> > the current document text, or "enhancement" for a proposed addition
> of
> > functionality (such as an additional requirement).
> > b.      The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the
> Issue.
> > For example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
> > c.       The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless,
I
> > know).
> > d.      The Component: field should be set to the document you are
> > filing the issue on.
> > e.      The Version: field should be set to "1.0".
> > f.        The Severity: field should be set to based on the status
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> > the document (e.g. "In WG Last Call" for a document in WG last call)
> > g.        The Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless
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> > address of the editor.
> > 5.       Typically it won't be necessary to enclose a file with the
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I typically forward these type of announcements to the EC reflector and cal=
l attention to the appropriate WGs.  There are likely other wireless groups=
 that have interest.  I can forward for you.
Paul

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tworks"

Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody
who can do it?=20

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);
> radext@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for
> IEEE802Networks"
>=20
> You may also want to include 802.11
>=20
> Paul
>=20
> -- Sent from my HP TouchPad
> ________________________________
> On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com>
> wrote:
> FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
> believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on
> this
> document would be very useful.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Dan
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM
> > To: radext@ietf.org
> > Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE
> > 802Networks"
> >
> > This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> > for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG
for
> > publication as a proposed standard RFC.
> >
> > The document is available for inspection here:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
> >
> > The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If
you
> > have comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See
> > below for summary of instructions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mauricio and Jouni
> >
> > 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
> > RADEXT WG site on the tools server:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login
> > 2.       If you don't already have a login ID, you can obtain one by
> > navigating to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin
> > 3.       Once you have obtained an account, and have logged in, you
> can
> > file an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry
> > form:http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket
> > 4.       When opening an issue:
> > a.       The Type: field should be set to "defect" for an issue with
> > the current document text, or "enhancement" for a proposed addition
> of
> > functionality (such as an additional requirement).
> > b.      The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the
> Issue.
> > For example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
> > c.       The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless,
I
> > know).
> > d.      The Component: field should be set to the document you are
> > filing the issue on.
> > e.      The Version: field should be set to "1.0".
> > f.        The Severity: field should be set to based on the status
of
> > the document (e.g. "In WG Last Call" for a document in WG last call)
> > g.        The Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless
> > inspiration seizes you.
> > h.      The Assign To: field is generally filled in with the email
> > address of the editor.
> > 5.       Typically it won't be necessary to enclose a file with the
> > ticket, but if you need to, select "I have files to attach to this
> > ticket".
> > 6.       If you want to preview your Issue, click on the "Preview"
> > button.  When you're ready to submit the issue, click on the "Create
> > Ticket" button.
> > 7.       If you want to update an issue, go to the "View Tickets"
> page:
> > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/report/1  Click on the
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I typically forward these type of announcements to the EC reflector and call attention to the appropriate WGs.  There are likely other wireless groups that have interest.  I can forward for you.
Paul

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Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:30 AM
To: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); radext@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE802Networks"

Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody
who can do it? 

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);
> radext@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for
> IEEE802Networks"
> 
> You may also want to include 802.11
> 
> Paul
> 
> -- Sent from my HP TouchPad
> ________________________________
> On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com>
> wrote:
> FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
> believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on
> this
> document would be very useful.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM
> > To: radext@ietf.org
> > Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE
> > 802Networks"
> >
> > This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> > for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG
for
> > publication as a proposed standard RFC.
> >
> > The document is available for inspection here:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
> >
> > The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If
you
> > have comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See
> > below for summary of instructions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mauricio and Jouni
> >
> > 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
> > RADEXT WG site on the tools server:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login
> > 2.       If you don't already have a login ID, you can obtain one by
> > navigating to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin
> > 3.       Once you have obtained an account, and have logged in, you
> can
> > file an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry
> > form:http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket
> > 4.       When opening an issue:
> > a.       The Type: field should be set to "defect" for an issue with
> > the current document text, or "enhancement" for a proposed addition
> of
> > functionality (such as an additional requirement).
> > b.      The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the
> Issue.
> > For example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
> > c.       The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless,
I
> > know).
> > d.      The Component: field should be set to the document you are
> > filing the issue on.
> > e.      The Version: field should be set to "1.0".
> > f.        The Severity: field should be set to based on the status
of
> > the document (e.g. "In WG Last Call" for a document in WG last call)
> > g.        The Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless
> > inspiration seizes you.
> > h.      The Assign To: field is generally filled in with the email
> > address of the editor.
> > 5.       Typically it won't be necessary to enclose a file with the
> > ticket, but if you need to, select "I have files to attach to this
> > ticket".
> > 6.       If you want to preview your Issue, click on the "Preview"
> > button.  When you're ready to submit the issue, click on the "Create
> > Ticket" button.
> > 7.       If you want to update an issue, go to the "View Tickets"
> page:
> > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/report/1  Click on the
> ticket
> > # you want to update, and then modify the ticket fields as required
> > _______________________________________________
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Yes, please forward to the EC reflector.=20

Thanks,=20

Dan



-----Original Message-----
From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
Sent: Tue 5/8/2012 8:33 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); =
radext@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes =
forIEEE802Networks"
=20
I typically forward these type of announcements to the EC reflector and =
call attention to the appropriate WGs.  There are likely other wireless =
groups that have interest.  I can forward for you.
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf =
Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:30 AM
To: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); =
radext@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for =
IEEE802Networks"

Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody
who can do it?=20

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);
> radext@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for
> IEEE802Networks"
>=20
> You may also want to include 802.11
>=20
> Paul
>=20
> -- Sent from my HP TouchPad
> ________________________________
> On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com>
> wrote:
> FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
> believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on
> this
> document would be very useful.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Dan
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM
> > To: radext@ietf.org
> > Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE
> > 802Networks"
> >
> > This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> > for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG
for
> > publication as a proposed standard RFC.
> >
> > The document is available for inspection here:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
> >
> > The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If
you
> > have comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See
> > below for summary of instructions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mauricio and Jouni
> >
> > 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
> > RADEXT WG site on the tools server:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login
> > 2.       If you don't already have a login ID, you can obtain one by
> > navigating to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin
> > 3.       Once you have obtained an account, and have logged in, you
> can
> > file an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry
> > form:http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket
> > 4.       When opening an issue:
> > a.       The Type: field should be set to "defect" for an issue with
> > the current document text, or "enhancement" for a proposed addition
> of
> > functionality (such as an additional requirement).
> > b.      The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the
> Issue.
> > For example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
> > c.       The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless,
I
> > know).
> > d.      The Component: field should be set to the document you are
> > filing the issue on.
> > e.      The Version: field should be set to "1.0".
> > f.        The Severity: field should be set to based on the status
of
> > the document (e.g. "In WG Last Call" for a document in WG last call)
> > g.        The Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless
> > inspiration seizes you.
> > h.      The Assign To: field is generally filled in with the email
> > address of the editor.
> > 5.       Typically it won't be necessary to enclose a file with the
> > ticket, but if you need to, select "I have files to attach to this
> > ticket".
> > 6.       If you want to preview your Issue, click on the "Preview"
> > button.  When you're ready to submit the issue, click on the "Create
> > Ticket" button.
> > 7.       If you want to update an issue, go to the "View Tickets"
> page:
> > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/report/1  Click on the
> ticket
> > # you want to update, and then modify the ticket fields as required
> > _______________________________________________
> > radext mailing list
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yes, please forward to the EC reflector.<BR>
<BR>
Thanks,<BR>
<BR>
Dan<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com">mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com</A>]<BR>
Sent: Tue 5/8/2012 8:33 PM<BR>
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); =
radext@ietf.org<BR>
Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes =
forIEEE802Networks&quot;<BR>
<BR>
I typically forward these type of announcements to the EC reflector and =
call attention to the appropriate WGs.&nbsp; There are likely other =
wireless groups that have interest.&nbsp; I can forward for you.<BR>
Paul<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org</A=
>] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)<BR>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:30 AM<BR>
To: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); =
radext@ietf.org<BR>
Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes for =
IEEE802Networks&quot;<BR>
<BR>
Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know =
anybody<BR>
who can do it?<BR>
<BR>
Dan<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>
&gt; From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com">mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com</A>]<BR>
&gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM<BR>
&gt; To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);<BR>
&gt; radext@ietf.org<BR>
&gt; Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes =
for<BR>
&gt; IEEE802Networks&quot;<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; You may also want to include 802.11<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; Paul<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; -- Sent from my HP TouchPad<BR>
&gt; ________________________________<BR>
&gt; On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) =
&lt;dromasca@avaya.com&gt;<BR>
&gt; wrote:<BR>
&gt; FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 =
reflector. I<BR>
&gt; believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment =
on<BR>
&gt; this<BR>
&gt; document would be very useful.<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; Regards,<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; Dan<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>
&gt; &gt; From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org</A=
>] On<BR>
&gt; &gt; Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)<BR>
&gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM<BR>
&gt; &gt; To: radext@ietf.org<BR>
&gt; &gt; Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes =
for IEEE<BR>
&gt; &gt; 802Networks&quot;<BR>
&gt; &gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on &quot;RADIUS =
Attributes<BR>
&gt; &gt; for IEEE 802 Networks&quot;, prior to sending the document to =
the IESG<BR>
for<BR>
&gt; &gt; publication as a proposed standard RFC.<BR>
&gt; &gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; The document is available for inspection here:<BR>
&gt; &gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext">http://too=
ls.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext</A><BR>
&gt; &gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, =
2012.&nbsp;&nbsp; If<BR>
you<BR>
&gt; &gt; have comments on the document, please file using TRAC =
system.&nbsp; See<BR>
&gt; &gt; below for summary of instructions.<BR>
&gt; &gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; Thanks,<BR>
&gt; &gt; Mauricio and Jouni<BR>
&gt; &gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; 1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To submit an issue in =
TRAC, you first need to login to the<BR>
&gt; &gt; RADEXT WG site on the tools server:<BR>
&gt; &gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login">http://tools.ietf.org=
/wg/radext/trac/login</A><BR>
&gt; &gt; 2.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you don't already =
have a login ID, you can obtain one by<BR>
&gt; &gt; navigating to this site:&nbsp;&nbsp; <A =
HREF=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/n=
ewlogin</A><BR>
&gt; &gt; 3.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Once you have obtained =
an account, and have logged in, you<BR>
&gt; can<BR>
&gt; &gt; file an issue by navigating to the&nbsp; ticket entry<BR>
&gt; &gt; form:<A =
HREF=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket">http://trac.=
tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket</A><BR>
&gt; &gt; 4.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; When opening an =
issue:<BR>
&gt; &gt; a.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Type: field should =
be set to &quot;defect&quot; for an issue with<BR>
&gt; &gt; the current document text, or &quot;enhancement&quot; for a =
proposed addition<BR>
&gt; of<BR>
&gt; &gt; functionality (such as an additional requirement).<BR>
&gt; &gt; b.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Priority: field is set =
based on the severity of the<BR>
&gt; Issue.<BR>
&gt; &gt; For example, editorial issues are typically &quot;minor&quot; =
or &quot;trivial&quot;.<BR>
&gt; &gt; c.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Milestone: field =
should be set to milestone1 (useless,<BR>
I<BR>
&gt; &gt; know).<BR>
&gt; &gt; d.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Component: field should =
be set to the document you are<BR>
&gt; &gt; filing the issue on.<BR>
&gt; &gt; e.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Version: field should be =
set to &quot;1.0&quot;.<BR>
&gt; &gt; f.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Severity: =
field should be set to based on the status<BR>
of<BR>
&gt; &gt; the document (e.g. &quot;In WG Last Call&quot; for a document =
in WG last call)<BR>
&gt; &gt; g.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Keywords: and =
CC: fields can be left blank unless<BR>
&gt; &gt; inspiration seizes you.<BR>
&gt; &gt; h.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Assign To: field is =
generally filled in with the email<BR>
&gt; &gt; address of the editor.<BR>
&gt; &gt; 5.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Typically it won't be =
necessary to enclose a file with the<BR>
&gt; &gt; ticket, but if you need to, select &quot;I have files to =
attach to this<BR>
&gt; &gt; ticket&quot;.<BR>
&gt; &gt; 6.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you want to preview =
your Issue, click on the &quot;Preview&quot;<BR>
&gt; &gt; button.&nbsp; When you're ready to submit the issue, click on =
the &quot;Create<BR>
&gt; &gt; Ticket&quot; button.<BR>
&gt; &gt; 7.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you want to update =
an issue, go to the &quot;View Tickets&quot;<BR>
&gt; page:<BR>
&gt; &gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/report/1">http://trac.t=
ools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/report/1</A>&nbsp; Click on the<BR>
&gt; ticket<BR>
&gt; &gt; # you want to update, and then modify the ticket fields as =
required<BR>
&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<BR>
&gt; &gt; radext mailing list<BR>
&gt; &gt; radext@ietf.org<BR>
&gt; &gt; <A =
HREF=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext">https://www.ietf.or=
g/mailman/listinfo/radext</A><BR>
&gt; _______________________________________________<BR>
&gt; radext mailing list<BR>
&gt; radext@ietf.org<BR>
&gt; <A =
HREF=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext">https://www.ietf.or=
g/mailman/listinfo/radext</A><BR>
_______________________________________________<BR>
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radext@ietf.org<BR>
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Yes, please forward to the EC reflector.=20

Thanks,=20

Dan



-----Original Message-----
From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
Sent: Tue 5/8/2012 8:33 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); =
radext@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes =
forIEEE802Networks"
=20
I typically forward these type of announcements to the EC reflector and =
call attention to the appropriate WGs.  There are likely other wireless =
groups that have interest.  I can forward for you.
Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf =
Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:30 AM
To: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); =
radext@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for =
IEEE802Networks"

Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody
who can do it?=20

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);
> radext@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for
> IEEE802Networks"
>=20
> You may also want to include 802.11
>=20
> Paul
>=20
> -- Sent from my HP TouchPad
> ________________________________
> On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com>
> wrote:
> FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
> believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on
> this
> document would be very useful.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Dan
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM
> > To: radext@ietf.org
> > Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE
> > 802Networks"
> >
> > This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> > for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG
for
> > publication as a proposed standard RFC.
> >
> > The document is available for inspection here:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
> >
> > The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If
you
> > have comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See
> > below for summary of instructions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mauricio and Jouni
> >
> > 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
> > RADEXT WG site on the tools server:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login
> > 2.       If you don't already have a login ID, you can obtain one by
> > navigating to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin
> > 3.       Once you have obtained an account, and have logged in, you
> can
> > file an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry
> > form:http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket
> > 4.       When opening an issue:
> > a.       The Type: field should be set to "defect" for an issue with
> > the current document text, or "enhancement" for a proposed addition
> of
> > functionality (such as an additional requirement).
> > b.      The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the
> Issue.
> > For example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
> > c.       The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless,
I
> > know).
> > d.      The Component: field should be set to the document you are
> > filing the issue on.
> > e.      The Version: field should be set to "1.0".
> > f.        The Severity: field should be set to based on the status
of
> > the document (e.g. "In WG Last Call" for a document in WG last call)
> > g.        The Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless
> > inspiration seizes you.
> > h.      The Assign To: field is generally filled in with the email
> > address of the editor.
> > 5.       Typically it won't be necessary to enclose a file with the
> > ticket, but if you need to, select "I have files to attach to this
> > ticket".
> > 6.       If you want to preview your Issue, click on the "Preview"
> > button.  When you're ready to submit the issue, click on the "Create
> > Ticket" button.
> > 7.       If you want to update an issue, go to the "View Tickets"
> page:
> > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/report/1  Click on the
> ticket
> > # you want to update, and then modify the ticket fields as required
> > _______________________________________________
> > radext mailing list
> > radext@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yes, please forward to the EC reflector.<BR>
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Thanks,<BR>
<BR>
Dan<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com">mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com</A>]<BR>
Sent: Tue 5/8/2012 8:33 PM<BR>
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); =
radext@ietf.org<BR>
Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes =
forIEEE802Networks&quot;<BR>
<BR>
I typically forward these type of announcements to the EC reflector and =
call attention to the appropriate WGs.&nbsp; There are likely other =
wireless groups that have interest.&nbsp; I can forward for you.<BR>
Paul<BR>
<BR>
-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org</A=
>] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)<BR>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:30 AM<BR>
To: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); =
radext@ietf.org<BR>
Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes for =
IEEE802Networks&quot;<BR>
<BR>
Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know =
anybody<BR>
who can do it?<BR>
<BR>
Dan<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
&gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>
&gt; From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com">mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com</A>]<BR>
&gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM<BR>
&gt; To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);<BR>
&gt; radext@ietf.org<BR>
&gt; Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes =
for<BR>
&gt; IEEE802Networks&quot;<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; You may also want to include 802.11<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; Paul<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; -- Sent from my HP TouchPad<BR>
&gt; ________________________________<BR>
&gt; On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) =
&lt;dromasca@avaya.com&gt;<BR>
&gt; wrote:<BR>
&gt; FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 =
reflector. I<BR>
&gt; believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment =
on<BR>
&gt; this<BR>
&gt; document would be very useful.<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; Regards,<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; Dan<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>
&gt; &gt; From: radext-bounces@ietf.org [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org</A=
>] On<BR>
&gt; &gt; Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)<BR>
&gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM<BR>
&gt; &gt; To: radext@ietf.org<BR>
&gt; &gt; Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes =
for IEEE<BR>
&gt; &gt; 802Networks&quot;<BR>
&gt; &gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on &quot;RADIUS =
Attributes<BR>
&gt; &gt; for IEEE 802 Networks&quot;, prior to sending the document to =
the IESG<BR>
for<BR>
&gt; &gt; publication as a proposed standard RFC.<BR>
&gt; &gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; The document is available for inspection here:<BR>
&gt; &gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext">http://too=
ls.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext</A><BR>
&gt; &gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, =
2012.&nbsp;&nbsp; If<BR>
you<BR>
&gt; &gt; have comments on the document, please file using TRAC =
system.&nbsp; See<BR>
&gt; &gt; below for summary of instructions.<BR>
&gt; &gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; Thanks,<BR>
&gt; &gt; Mauricio and Jouni<BR>
&gt; &gt;<BR>
&gt; &gt; 1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To submit an issue in =
TRAC, you first need to login to the<BR>
&gt; &gt; RADEXT WG site on the tools server:<BR>
&gt; &gt; <A =
HREF=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login">http://tools.ietf.org=
/wg/radext/trac/login</A><BR>
&gt; &gt; 2.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you don't already =
have a login ID, you can obtain one by<BR>
&gt; &gt; navigating to this site:&nbsp;&nbsp; <A =
HREF=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/n=
ewlogin</A><BR>
&gt; &gt; 3.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Once you have obtained =
an account, and have logged in, you<BR>
&gt; can<BR>
&gt; &gt; file an issue by navigating to the&nbsp; ticket entry<BR>
&gt; &gt; form:<A =
HREF=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket">http://trac.=
tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket</A><BR>
&gt; &gt; 4.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; When opening an =
issue:<BR>
&gt; &gt; a.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Type: field should =
be set to &quot;defect&quot; for an issue with<BR>
&gt; &gt; the current document text, or &quot;enhancement&quot; for a =
proposed addition<BR>
&gt; of<BR>
&gt; &gt; functionality (such as an additional requirement).<BR>
&gt; &gt; b.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Priority: field is set =
based on the severity of the<BR>
&gt; Issue.<BR>
&gt; &gt; For example, editorial issues are typically &quot;minor&quot; =
or &quot;trivial&quot;.<BR>
&gt; &gt; c.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Milestone: field =
should be set to milestone1 (useless,<BR>
I<BR>
&gt; &gt; know).<BR>
&gt; &gt; d.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Component: field should =
be set to the document you are<BR>
&gt; &gt; filing the issue on.<BR>
&gt; &gt; e.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Version: field should be =
set to &quot;1.0&quot;.<BR>
&gt; &gt; f.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Severity: =
field should be set to based on the status<BR>
of<BR>
&gt; &gt; the document (e.g. &quot;In WG Last Call&quot; for a document =
in WG last call)<BR>
&gt; &gt; g.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Keywords: and =
CC: fields can be left blank unless<BR>
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&gt; &gt; h.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Assign To: field is =
generally filled in with the email<BR>
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&gt; &gt; 5.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Typically it won't be =
necessary to enclose a file with the<BR>
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attach to this<BR>
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&gt; &gt; 6.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you want to preview =
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I've received a few off list suggestions for additional RADIUS =
attributes to add to RADIUS Attributes for IEEE 802 Networks.  These =
include

1.   WLAN-Reason-Code  - used to transmit the reason for authentication =
failure from AAA to AP in an Access-Reject.  The code is included in =
reason code of a Disassociation or De-authentication Frame
2.   WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher - communicates the negotiated pairwise cipher =
from the AP to the AAA.
3.  WLAN-Group-Cipher - communicates the negotiated group cipher from =
the AP to the AAA.=20
4.  WLAN-AKM-Suite - contains information on the authentication and key =
management suite negotiated buy the AP.=20
5.  WLAN-RF-Band - contains information on the RF band used by the AP. =20=


Below is suggested text for these attributes from Dave Stephenson:

Thanks,

Joe
=20
2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code
=20
Description
=20
The WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute contains information on the reason for =
authorization failure subsequent to a mobile device=92s authentication =
request towards a Wi-Fi access network.
=20
A WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute MAY be included within an Access-Reject or =
Disconnect-Request packet.  Upon receipt of an Access-Reject packet, the =
WLAN-Reason-Code value is copied by the Authenticator / AP into the =
Reason code field of a Disassociation or Deauthentication frame (see =
clause 8.3.3.4 and 8.3.3.12 respectively in IEEE 802.11-2012), which is =
subsequently transmitted to the Supplicant / mobile device.  A summary =
of the WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute format is shown below.  The fields are =
transmitted from left to right.
=20
  0                   1                   2                   3=20
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
=20
Code
 tbd8
=20
Length
 =3D2
=20
Value
The Value field is two octets containing a 16-bit unsigned integer drawn =
from Table 8-36 in clause 8.4.1.7 of IEEE 802.11-2012.  The value=92s =
least significant octet is contained in bits 23-16 and most significant =
octet in bits 31-24 (network octet order).  Note: not all reason codes =
defined in the Table 8-36 are expected to be used by an AS.
=20
[Note]: the importance of including this attribute is for authentication =
and authorization of mobile devices in public Wi-Fi access; it is =
important to inform the mobile when authorization is denied, even though =
authentication may have been successful.  This can occur for AS policy =
reasons or for reasons related to the user=92s subscription.  The =
following Reason codes for public Wi-Fi access networks were added by =
the IEEE 802.11u-2011 amendment:
=20
Reason
 Code
 Value   Description
27      Disassociated because session terminated by SP request
28      Disassociated because of lack of SP roaming agreement
29      Requested service rejected because of SP cipher suite or AKM =
requirement
30      Requested service not authorized in this location
=20
=20
=20
=20
2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher
=20
Description
=20
The WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute contains information on the pairwise =
cipher suite used to establish the robust security network association =
(RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.
=20
A WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an =
Access-Request packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute =
format is shown below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
=20
  0                   1                   2                   3=20
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             =20
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
            Value                |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
=20
Code
 tbd9
=20
Length
 =3D4
=20
Value
The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187 =
with values drawn from Table 8-99 of IEEE 802.11-2012.

=20
=20
=20
2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
=20
Description
=20
The WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute contains information on the group cipher =
suite used to establish the robust security network association (RSNA) =
between the AP and mobile device.
=20
A WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an =
Access-Request packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute =
format is shown below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
=20
  0                   1                   2                   3=20
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             =20
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
            Value                |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
=20
Code
 tbd10
=20
Length
 =3D4
=20
Value
The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187 =
with values drawn from Table 8-99 of IEEE 802.11-2012.

=20
=20
=20
2.12.  WLAN-AKM-Suite
=20
Description
=20
The WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute contains information on the authentication =
and key management suite used to establish the robust security network =
association (RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.
=20
A WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request =
packet.  A summary of the WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute format is shown =
below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
=20
  0                   1                   2                   3=20
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |     Type      |  Length       |             Value            =20
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
            Value                |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
=20
Code
 tbd11
=20
Length
 =3D4
=20
Value
The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187 =
with values drawn from Table 8-101 of IEEE 802.11-2012.

=20
=20
=20
2.12.  WLAN-RF-Band
=20
Description
=20
The WLAN-RF-Band Attribute contains information on the RF band used by =
the AP for transmission and reception of information to and from the =
mobile device.  This information can be used, for example, to provide a =
relative quality of experience indication for the mobile device=92s user =
(i.e., some RF bands have more interference than others).
=20
A WLAN-RF-Band Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request =
packet.  A summary of the WLAN-RF-Band Attribute format is shown below.  =
The fields are transmitted from left to right.
=20
  0                   1                   2                   3=20
  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |     Type      |  Length       |     Value     |   Reserved    |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
=20
Code
 tbd12
=20
Length
 =3D2
=20
Value
The Value field is 1 octet having a value chosen from the table below:
Band ID value     Meaning
      0           TV white spaces
      1           Sub-1 GHz (excluding TV white spaces)
      2           2.4 GHz
      3           3.6 GHz
      4           4.9 and 5 GHz
      5           60 GHz
      6-255       Reserved
=20
=20
[Note]: this table was copied from IEEE 802.11ad-d5.  I=92m not sure of =
the relative publication dates of this internet draft and IEEE =
802.11ad-d5.  Since it=92s generally not recommended to reference a =
draft specification in an RFC, I=92ve copied the table.  If we discover =
that the IEEE document will be published in time, then we could deleted =
the table and instead reference Table 8-53a in IEEE 802.11ad.
=20

=20=

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I've received a few off list suggestions for additional RADIUS attributes t=
o add to RADIUS Attributes for IEEE 802 Networks.  These include

1.   WLAN-Reason-Code  - used to transmit the reason for authentication fai=
lure from AAA to AP in an Access-Reject.  The code is included in reason co=
de of a Disassociation or De-authentication Frame
2.   WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher - communicates the negotiated pairwise cipher fro=
m the AP to the AAA.
3.  WLAN-Group-Cipher - communicates the negotiated group cipher from the A=
P to the AAA. =

4.  WLAN-AKM-Suite - contains information on the authentication and key man=
agement suite negotiated buy the AP. =

5.  WLAN-RF-Band - contains information on the RF band used by the AP.  =


Below is suggested text for these attributes from Dave Stephenson:

Thanks,

Joe
 =

2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code
 =

Description
 =

The WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute contains information on the reason for autho=
rization failure subsequent to a mobile device=92s authentication request t=
owards a Wi-Fi access network.
 =

A WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute MAY be included within an Access-Reject or Dis=
connect-Request packet.  Upon receipt of an Access-Reject packet, the WLAN-=
Reason-Code value is copied by the Authenticator / AP into the Reason code =
field of a Disassociation or Deauthentication frame (see clause 8.3.3.4 and=
 8.3.3.12 respectively in IEEE 802.11-2012), which is subsequently transmit=
ted to the Supplicant / mobile device.  A summary of the WLAN-Reason-Code A=
ttribute format is shown below.  The fields are transmitted from left to ri=
ght.
 =

  0                   1                   2                   3 =

  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 =

Code
 tbd8
 =

Length
 =3D2
 =

Value
The Value field is two octets containing a 16-bit unsigned integer drawn fr=
om Table 8-36 in clause 8.4.1.7 of IEEE 802.11-2012.  The value=92s least s=
ignificant octet is contained in bits 23-16 and most significant octet in b=
its 31-24 (network octet order).  Note: not all reason codes defined in the=
 Table 8-36 are expected to be used by an AS.
 =

[Note]: the importance of including this attribute is for authentication an=
d authorization of mobile devices in public Wi-Fi access; it is important t=
o inform the mobile when authorization is denied, even though authenticatio=
n may have been successful.  This can occur for AS policy reasons or for re=
asons related to the user=92s subscription.  The following Reason codes for=
 public Wi-Fi access networks were added by the IEEE 802.11u-2011 amendment:
 =

Reason
 Code
 Value   Description
27      Disassociated because session terminated by SP request
28      Disassociated because of lack of SP roaming agreement
29      Requested service rejected because of SP cipher suite or AKM requir=
ement
30      Requested service not authorized in this location
 =

 =

 =

 =

2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher
 =

Description
 =

The WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute contains information on the pairwise cip=
her suite used to establish the robust security network association (RSNA) =
between the AP and mobile device.
 =

A WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Reques=
t packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute format is shown =
below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
 =

  0                   1                   2                   3 =

  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |     Type      |  Length       |             Value              =

 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
            Value                |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 =

Code
 tbd9
 =

Length
 =3D4
 =

Value
The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187 wi=
th values drawn from Table 8-99 of IEEE 802.11-2012.

 =

 =

 =

2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
 =

Description
 =

The WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute contains information on the group cipher su=
ite used to establish the robust security network association (RSNA) betwee=
n the AP and mobile device.
 =

A WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request p=
acket.  A summary of the WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute format is shown below.=
  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
 =

  0                   1                   2                   3 =

  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |     Type      |  Length       |             Value              =

 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
            Value                |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 =

Code
 tbd10
 =

Length
 =3D4
 =

Value
The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187 wi=
th values drawn from Table 8-99 of IEEE 802.11-2012.

 =

 =

 =

2.12.  WLAN-AKM-Suite
 =

Description
 =

The WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute contains information on the authentication and=
 key management suite used to establish the robust security network associa=
tion (RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.
 =

A WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request pack=
et.  A summary of the WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute format is shown below.  The =
fields are transmitted from left to right.
 =

  0                   1                   2                   3 =

  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             =

 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
            Value                |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 =

Code
 tbd11
 =

Length
 =3D4
 =

Value
The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187 wi=
th values drawn from Table 8-101 of IEEE 802.11-2012.

 =

 =

 =

2.12.  WLAN-RF-Band
 =

Description
 =

The WLAN-RF-Band Attribute contains information on the RF band used by the =
AP for transmission and reception of information to and from the mobile dev=
ice.  This information can be used, for example, to provide a relative qual=
ity of experience indication for the mobile device=92s user (i.e., some RF =
bands have more interference than others).
 =

A WLAN-RF-Band Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request packet=
.  A summary of the WLAN-RF-Band Attribute format is shown below.  The fiel=
ds are transmitted from left to right.
 =

  0                   1                   2                   3 =

  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 |     Type      |  Length       |     Value     |   Reserved    |
 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
 =

Code
 tbd12
 =

Length
 =3D2
 =

Value
The Value field is 1 octet having a value chosen from the table below:
Band ID value     Meaning
      0           TV white spaces
      1           Sub-1 GHz (excluding TV white spaces)
      2           2.4 GHz
      3           3.6 GHz
      4           4.9 and 5 GHz
      5           60 GHz
      6-255       Reserved
 =

 =

[Note]: this table was copied from IEEE 802.11ad-d5.  I=92m not sure of the=
 relative publication dates of this internet draft and IEEE 802.11ad-d5.  S=
ince it=92s generally not recommended to reference a draft specification in=
 an RFC, I=92ve copied the table.  If we discover that the IEEE document wi=
ll be published in time, then we could deleted the table and instead refere=
nce Table 8-53a in IEEE 802.11ad.
 =


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#109: Additional IEEE 802.11 Attributes

 I've received a few off list suggestions for additional RADIUS attributes
 to add to RADIUS Attributes for IEEE 802 Networks.  These include

 1.   WLAN-Reason-Code  - used to transmit the reason for authentication
 failure from AAA to AP in an Access-Reject.  The code is included in
 reason code of a Disassociation or De-authentication Frame
 2.   WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher - communicates the negotiated pairwise cipher
 from the AP to the AAA.
 3.  WLAN-Group-Cipher - communicates the negotiated group cipher from the
 AP to the AAA.
 4.  WLAN-AKM-Suite - contains information on the authentication and key
 management suite negotiated buy the AP.
 5.  WLAN-RF-Band - contains information on the RF band used by the AP.

 Below is suggested text for these attributes from Dave Stephenson:

 Thanks,

 Joe

 2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code

 Description

 The WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute contains information on the reason for
 authorization failure subsequent to a mobile device’s authentication
 request towards a Wi-Fi access network.

 A WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute MAY be included within an Access-Reject or
 Disconnect-Request packet.  Upon receipt of an Access-Reject packet, the
 WLAN-Reason-Code value is copied by the Authenticator / AP into the Reason
 code field of a Disassociation or Deauthentication frame (see clause
 8.3.3.4 and 8.3.3.12 respectively in IEEE 802.11-2012), which is
 subsequently transmitted to the Supplicant / mobile device.  A summary of
 the WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute format is shown below.  The fields are
 transmitted from left to right.

   0                   1                   2                   3
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
  |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             |
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

 Code
  tbd8

 Length
  =2

 Value
 The Value field is two octets containing a 16-bit unsigned integer drawn
 from Table 8-36 in clause 8.4.1.7 of IEEE 802.11-2012.  The value’s least
 significant octet is contained in bits 23-16 and most significant octet in
 bits 31-24 (network octet order).  Note: not all reason codes defined in
 the Table 8-36 are expected to be used by an AS.

 [Note]: the importance of including this attribute is for authentication
 and authorization of mobile devices in public Wi-Fi access; it is
 important to inform the mobile when authorization is denied, even though
 authentication may have been successful.  This can occur for AS policy
 reasons or for reasons related to the user’s subscription.  The following
 Reason codes for public Wi-Fi access networks were added by the IEEE
 802.11u-2011 amendment:

 Reason
  Code
  Value   Description
 27      Disassociated because session terminated by SP request
 28      Disassociated because of lack of SP roaming agreement
 29      Requested service rejected because of SP cipher suite or AKM
 requirement
 30      Requested service not authorized in this location




 2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher

 Description

 The WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute contains information on the pairwise
 cipher suite used to establish the robust security network association
 (RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.

 A WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-
 Request packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute format is
 shown below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.

   0                   1                   2                   3
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
  |     Type      |  Length       |             Value
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
             Value                |
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

 Code
  tbd9

 Length
  =4

 Value
 The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187
 with values drawn from Table 8-99 of IEEE 802.11-2012.




 2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher

 Description

 The WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute contains information on the group cipher
 suite used to establish the robust security network association (RSNA)
 between the AP and mobile device.

 A WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request
 packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute format is shown
 below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.

   0                   1                   2                   3
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
  |     Type      |  Length       |             Value
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
             Value                |
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

 Code
  tbd10

 Length
  =4

 Value
 The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187
 with values drawn from Table 8-99 of IEEE 802.11-2012.




 2.12.  WLAN-AKM-Suite

 Description

 The WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute contains information on the authentication
 and key management suite used to establish the robust security network
 association (RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.

 A WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request
 packet.  A summary of the WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute format is shown below.
 The fields are transmitted from left to right.

   0                   1                   2                   3
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
  |     Type      |  Length       |             Value
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
             Value                |
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

 Code
  tbd11

 Length
  =4

 Value
 The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187
 with values drawn from Table 8-101 of IEEE 802.11-2012.




 2.12.  WLAN-RF-Band

 Description

 The WLAN-RF-Band Attribute contains information on the RF band used by the
 AP for transmission and reception of information to and from the mobile
 device.  This information can be used, for example, to provide a relative
 quality of experience indication for the mobile device’s user (i.e., some
 RF bands have more interference than others).

 A WLAN-RF-Band Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request
 packet.  A summary of the WLAN-RF-Band Attribute format is shown below.
 The fields are transmitted from left to right.

   0                   1                   2                   3
   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
  |     Type      |  Length       |     Value     |   Reserved    |
  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

 Code
  tbd12

 Length
  =2

 Value
 The Value field is 1 octet having a value chosen from the table below:
 Band ID value     Meaning
       0           TV white spaces
       1           Sub-1 GHz (excluding TV white spaces)
       2           2.4 GHz
       3           3.6 GHz
       4           4.9 and 5 GHz
       5           60 GHz
       6-255       Reserved


 [Note]: this table was copied from IEEE 802.11ad-d5.  I’m not sure of the
 relative publication dates of this internet draft and IEEE 802.11ad-d5.
 Since it’s generally not recommended to reference a draft specification in
 an RFC, I’ve copied the table.  If we discover that the IEEE document will
 be published in time, then we could deleted the table and instead
 reference Table 8-53a in IEEE 802.11ad.

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#108: Incorrect author email address

Changes (by Bernard_Aboba@…):

 * owner:   => Bernard_Aboba@…
 * component:  IEEE802-Attrs => ieee802ext


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Component:  ieee802ext          |     Version:  1.0
 Severity:  In WG Last Call     |  Resolution:
 Keywords:                      |
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> 2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code

> A summary of the WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute format is shown below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
>  
>   0                   1                   2                   3 
>   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>  |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             |
>  +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

> The Value field is two octets containing a 16-bit unsigned integer drawn from Table 8-36 in clause 8.4.1.7 of IEEE 802.11-2012.  The value’s least significant octet is contained in bits 23-16 and most significant octet in bits 31-24 (network octet order).  Note: not all reason codes defined in the Table 8-36 are expected to be used by an AS.

Hmm.. Is this really suggesting a RADIUS attribute that is using little
endian byte order? Aren't pretty pretty much all other RADIUS attributes
defined using big endian byte order? While I can understand that this
comes from the IEEE 802.11 side where the Reason Code is indeed little
endian, this type of difference between RADIUS attributes is just asking
for issues..

> [Note]: the importance of including this attribute is for authentication and authorization of mobile devices in public Wi-Fi access; it is important to inform the mobile when authorization is denied, even though authentication may have been successful.  This can occur for AS policy reasons or for reasons related to the user’s subscription.  The following Reason codes for public Wi-Fi access networks were added by the IEEE 802.11u-2011 amendment:

That IEEE 802.11u-2011 reference should be replaced with a reference to
IEEE Std 802.11-2012.

> Reason
>  Value   Description
> 27      Disassociated because session terminated by SP request
> 28      Disassociated because of lack of SP roaming agreement
> 29      Requested service rejected because of SP cipher suite or AKM requirement
> 30      Requested service not authorized in this location

Is Reason Code the best place for sending this information? It is a bit
difficult to extend this with any new potentially needed value while
something like EAP notifications could be work better for this.

> 2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher
>  
> Description
>  
> The WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute contains information on the pairwise cipher suite used to establish the robust security network association (RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.
>  
> A WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute format is shown below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.

Is there some general text pointing out that these attributes are
applicable only for the case of IEEE 802.11 networks? This SHOULD
statement could be interpreted as a strong recommendation for any NAS to
include the attribute while it should really only apply to the case
where the connection is an IEEE 802.11 RSNA.

> 2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
>  
> Description
>  
> The WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute contains information on the group cipher suite used to establish the robust security network association (RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.

If we are adding this, we could as well add WLAN-Group-Mgmt-Cipher from
IEEE 802.11w (now in IEEE Std 802.11-2012) to cover the case of
protected management frames. Though, this would also need another
attribute to indicate whether the station negotiated use of the
mechanism.

-- 
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Here are some questions/comments on these proposed attributes.

Regards,

Lionel

2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code
=20
[Lionel] what about reusing Message-Reply attribute in Access-Reject and
define additional values for Acct-Terminate-Cause used in
Disconnect-Reject (as described in
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3580#section-2.1) ?  =20
=20
=20
2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher=20
2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
2.12.  WLAN-AKM-Suite

[Lionel] If my understanding is correct, it is expected that the AAA
server could reject the access authorization request based on these
attributes describing the existing RSNA between the AP and mobile node.
If the resulting RSNA is not suitable for the SP, I'm not sure if that
this is something that should/could be managed per user authorization
request but rather via local policies or SLA between partners. =20
=20
=20
2.12.  WLAN-RF-Band
=20
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the AP for transmission and reception of information to and from the
mobile device.  This information can be used, for example, to provide a
relative quality of experience indication for the mobile device's user
(i.e., some RF bands have more interference than others).

[Lionel] if it is an indication for the user, why is it intended to
provide this information to the AAA server?


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Here are some questions/comments on these proposed attributes.

Regards,

Lionel

2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code
 
[Lionel] what about reusing Message-Reply attribute in Access-Reject and
define additional values for Acct-Terminate-Cause used in
Disconnect-Reject (as described in
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3580#section-2.1) ?   
 
 
2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher 
2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
2.12.  WLAN-AKM-Suite

[Lionel] If my understanding is correct, it is expected that the AAA
server could reject the access authorization request based on these
attributes describing the existing RSNA between the AP and mobile node.
If the resulting RSNA is not suitable for the SP, I'm not sure if that
this is something that should/could be managed per user authorization
request but rather via local policies or SLA between partners.  
 
 
2.12.  WLAN-RF-Band
 
The WLAN-RF-Band Attribute contains information on the RF band used by
the AP for transmission and reception of information to and from the
mobile device.  This information can be used, for example, to provide a
relative quality of experience indication for the mobile device's user
(i.e., some RF bands have more interference than others).

[Lionel] if it is an indication for the user, why is it intended to
provide this information to the AAA server?

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To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, "Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs)" <paul.congdon@hp.com>, "radext@ietf.org" <radext@ietf.org>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 18:54:42 +0100
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Between the both of you it sounds like the appropriate groups in IEEE have or will be contacted soon. Correct?

-MS


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Yes, please forward to the EC reflector.

Thanks,

Dan



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Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes forIEEE802Networks"

I typically forward these type of announcements to the EC reflector and call attention to the appropriate WGs.  There are likely other wireless groups that have interest.  I can forward for you.
Paul

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Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody
who can do it?

Dan




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> From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);
> radext@ietf.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for
> IEEE802Networks"
>
> You may also want to include 802.11
>
> Paul
>
> -- Sent from my HP TouchPad
> ________________________________
> On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com<mailto:dromasca@avaya.com>>
> wrote:
> FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
> believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on
> this
> document would be very useful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radext-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM
> > To: radext@ietf.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
> > Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE
> > 802Networks"
> >
> > This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> > for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG
for
> > publication as a proposed standard RFC.
> >
> > The document is available for inspection here:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
> >
> > The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If
you
> > have comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See
> > below for summary of instructions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mauricio and Jouni
> >
> > 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
> > RADEXT WG site on the tools server:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login
> > 2.       If you don't already have a login ID, you can obtain one by
> > navigating to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin
> > 3.       Once you have obtained an account, and have logged in, you
> can
> > file an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry
> > form:http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket
> > 4.       When opening an issue:
> > a.       The Type: field should be set to "defect" for an issue with
> > the current document text, or "enhancement" for a proposed addition
> of
> > functionality (such as an additional requirement).
> > b.      The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the
> Issue.
> > For example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
> > c.       The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless,
I
> > know).
> > d.      The Component: field should be set to the document you are
> > filing the issue on.
> > e.      The Version: field should be set to "1.0".
> > f.        The Severity: field should be set to based on the status
of
> > the document (e.g. "In WG Last Call" for a document in WG last call)
> > g.        The Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless
> > inspiration seizes you.
> > h.      The Assign To: field is generally filled in with the email
> > address of the editor.
> > 5.       Typically it won't be necessary to enclose a file with the
> > ticket, but if you need to, select "I have files to attach to this
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Between the both of you it sounds like the appropriate groups in IEEE have =
or will be contacted soon. Correct?

-MS


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a@avaya.com<mailto:dromasca@avaya.com>>
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com>>, Mauricio Sanchez <mauricio.sanchez@hp.com<mailto:mauricio.sanchez@hp=
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adext@ietf.org>>
Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes forIEEE802Net=
works"


Yes, please forward to the EC reflector.

Thanks,

Dan



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tue 5/8/2012 8:33 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); radext@ietf.or=
g<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes forIEEE802Net=
works"

I typically forward these type of announcements to the EC reflector and cal=
l attention to the appropriate WGs.  There are likely other wireless groups=
 that have interest.  I can forward for you.
Paul

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To: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); radext@iet=
f.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE802Ne=
tworks"

Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody
who can do it?

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);
> radext@ietf.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for
> IEEE802Networks"
>
> You may also want to include 802.11
>
> Paul
>
> -- Sent from my HP TouchPad
> ________________________________
> On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com<mailto:d=
romasca@avaya.com>>
> wrote:
> FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
> believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on
> this
> document would be very useful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radext-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:r=
adext-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM
> > To: radext@ietf.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
> > Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE
> > 802Networks"
> >
> > This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> > for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG
for
> > publication as a proposed standard RFC.
> >
> > The document is available for inspection here:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
> >
> > The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If
you
> > have comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See
> > below for summary of instructions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mauricio and Jouni
> >
> > 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
> > RADEXT WG site on the tools server:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login
> > 2.       If you don't already have a login ID, you can obtain one by
> > navigating to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin
> > 3.       Once you have obtained an account, and have logged in, you
> can
> > file an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry
> > form:http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket
> > 4.       When opening an issue:
> > a.       The Type: field should be set to "defect" for an issue with
> > the current document text, or "enhancement" for a proposed addition
> of
> > functionality (such as an additional requirement).
> > b.      The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the
> Issue.
> > For example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
> > c.       The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless,
I
> > know).
> > d.      The Component: field should be set to the document you are
> > filing the issue on.
> > e.      The Version: field should be set to "1.0".
> > f.        The Severity: field should be set to based on the status
of
> > the document (e.g. "In WG Last Call" for a document in WG last call)
> > g.        The Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless
> > inspiration seizes you.
> > h.      The Assign To: field is generally filled in with the email
> > address of the editor.
> > 5.       Typically it won't be necessary to enclose a file with the
> > ticket, but if you need to, select "I have files to attach to this
> > ticket".
> > 6.       If you want to preview your Issue, click on the "Preview"
> > button.  When you're ready to submit the issue, click on the "Create
> > Ticket" button.
> > 7.       If you want to update an issue, go to the "View Tickets"
> page:
> > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/report/1  Click on the
> ticket
> > # you want to update, and then modify the ticket fields as required
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We have been discussing rechartering on and off since January.  Below is an updated proposal that we would appreciate your review and feedback.  The changes can be summarized as follows:

 *   Updating completed work items and casting new dates for work items not accomplished per the dates in existing charter
 *   Addition of network access identifier work item
 *   Addition of traffic accounting work item
 *   Addition of packet fragmentation work item

Thanks,
Mauricio and Jouni

---------------------------------------------
Description of Working Group

The RADIUS Extensions Working Group will focus on extensions to the RADIUS protocol required to expand and enrich the standard attribute space, address cryptographic algorithm agility, use of new secure transports and clarify its usage and definition.

In order to enable interoperation of heterogeneous RADIUS/Diameter deployments, all RADEXT WG work items MUST contain a Diameter compatibility section, outlining how interoperability with Diameter will be maintained.
Furthermore, to ensure backward compatibility with existing RADIUS implementations, as well as compatibility between RADIUS and Diameter, the following restrictions are imposed on extensions considered by the RADEXT WG:

- All documents produced MUST specify means of interoperation with legacy RADIUS and, if possible, be backward compatible with existing RADIUS RFCs, including RFCs 2865-2869, 3162, 3575, 3579, 3580, 4668-4673,4675, 5080, 5090, 5176 and 6158. Transport profiles should, if possible, be compatible with RFC 3539.

- All RADIUS work MUST be compatible with equivalent facilities in Diameter. Where possible, new attributes should be defined so that the same attribute can be used in both RADIUS and Diameter without translation. In other cases a translation considerations section should be included in the specification.

Work Items
The immediate goals of the RADEXT working group are to address the following issues:
- RADIUS attribute space extension. The standard RADIUS attribute space is currently being depleted. This document will provide additional standard attribute space, while maintaining backward compatibility with existing attributes.

- IEEE 802 attributes. New attributes have been proposed to support IEEE 802 standards for wired and wireless LANs. This work item will support authentication, authorization and accounting attributes needed by IEEE 802 groups including IEEE 802.1, IEEE 802.11 and IEEE 802.16.

- New RADIUS transports. A reliable transport profile for RADIUS will be developed, as well as specifications for Secure transports, including TCP/TLS (RADSEC) and UDP/DTLS.

- Update and clarification of Network Access Identifiers (RFC4282).This work item will correct and clarify issues present with RFC4282 in two phases.  In first phase, RFC4282bis will be issued to eliminate fundamental incompatibilities with RADIUS around character encoding and NAI modifications by proxies.  In second phase, a fresh review of NAI internationalization requirements and behavior will be undertaken with a clear goal of maintaining compatibility with RADIUS.

- RADIUS Accounting Extensions for Traffic Statistics. This work item will specify RADIUS accounting attributes for differentiated accounting polices and traffic recording.

- Fragmentation of RADIUS packets to support exchanges exceeding the existing 4KB limit imposed by RFC2865.


Goals and Milestones
Done Updates to RFC 2618-2621 RADIUS MIBs submitted for publication
Done SIP RADIUS authentication draft submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Done RFC 2486bis submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Done RFC 3576 MIBs submitted as an Informational RFC
Done RADIUS VLAN and Priority Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC (reduced in scope)
Done RADIUS Implementation Issues and Fixes draft submitted as an Informational RFC
Done RADIUS Filtering Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC (split out from VLAN & Priority draft)
Done RFC 3576bis submitted as an Informational RFC (split out from Issues & Fixes draft)
Done RADIUS Redirection Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC (split out from VLAN & Priority draft)
Done RADIUS Design Guidelines submitted as a Best Current Practice RFC
Done RADIUS Management Authorization I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Done Reliable Transport Profile for RADIUS I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Done Status-Server I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Done RADIUS Crypto-agility Requirements submitted as an Informational RFC
Done RADSEC (RADIUS over TCP/TLS) draft submitted as an Experimental RFC
May 2012 IPv6 Access I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
May 2012 Extended Attributes I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Jun 2012 Dynamic Discovery I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Jun 2012 IEEE 802 Attributes I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Aug 2012 RADIUS over DTLS I-D submitted as an Experimental RFC
Nov 2012    Traffic Statistics Attribute I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Nov 2012    RADIUS packet fragmentation submitted as an Experimental RFC
Nov 2012 RFC 4282bis submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Apr 2013 RADIUS support for NAI Internationalization I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
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We have been discussing rechartering on and off since January.  Below is an=
 updated proposal that we would appreciate your review and feedback.  The c=
hanges can be summarized as follows:

 *   Updating completed work items and casting new dates for work items not=
 accomplished per the dates in existing charter
 *   Addition of network access identifier work item
 *   Addition of traffic accounting work item
 *   Addition of packet fragmentation work item

Thanks,
Mauricio and Jouni

---------------------------------------------
Description of Working Group

The RADIUS Extensions Working Group will focus on extensions to the RADIUS =
protocol required to expand and enrich the standard attribute space, addres=
s cryptographic algorithm agility, use of new secure transports and clarify=
 its usage and definition.

In order to enable interoperation of heterogeneous RADIUS/Diameter deployme=
nts, all RADEXT WG work items MUST contain a Diameter compatibility section=
, outlining how interoperability with Diameter will be maintained.
Furthermore, to ensure backward compatibility with existing RADIUS implemen=
tations, as well as compatibility between RADIUS and Diameter, the followin=
g restrictions are imposed on extensions considered by the RADEXT WG:

- All documents produced MUST specify means of interoperation with legacy R=
ADIUS and, if possible, be backward compatible with existing RADIUS RFCs, i=
ncluding RFCs 2865-2869, 3162, 3575, 3579, 3580, 4668-4673,4675, 5080, 5090=
, 5176 and 6158. Transport profiles should, if possible, be compatible with=
 RFC 3539.

- All RADIUS work MUST be compatible with equivalent facilities in Diameter=
. Where possible, new attributes should be defined so that the same attribu=
te can be used in both RADIUS and Diameter without translation. In other ca=
ses a translation considerations section should be included in the specific=
ation.

Work Items
The immediate goals of the RADEXT working group are to address the followin=
g issues:
- RADIUS attribute space extension. The standard RADIUS attribute space is =
currently being depleted. This document will provide additional standard at=
tribute space, while maintaining backward compatibility with existing attri=
butes.

- IEEE 802 attributes. New attributes have been proposed to support IEEE 80=
2 standards for wired and wireless LANs. This work item will support authen=
tication, authorization and accounting attributes needed by IEEE 802 groups=
 including IEEE 802.1, IEEE 802.11 and IEEE 802.16.

- New RADIUS transports. A reliable transport profile for RADIUS will be de=
veloped, as well as specifications for Secure transports, including TCP/TLS=
 (RADSEC) and UDP/DTLS.

- Update and clarification of Network Access Identifiers (RFC4282).This wor=
k item will correct and clarify issues present with RFC4282 in two phases. =
 In first phase, RFC4282bis will be issued to eliminate fundamental incompa=
tibilities with RADIUS around character encoding and NAI modifications by p=
roxies.  In second phase, a fresh review of NAI internationalization requir=
ements and behavior will be undertaken with a clear goal of maintaining com=
patibility with RADIUS.

- RADIUS Accounting Extensions for Traffic Statistics. This work item will =
specify RADIUS accounting attributes for differentiated accounting polices =
and traffic recording.

- Fragmentation of RADIUS packets to support exchanges exceeding the existi=
ng 4KB limit imposed by RFC2865.


Goals and Milestones
Done Updates to RFC 2618-2621 RADIUS MIBs submitted for publication
Done SIP RADIUS authentication draft submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Done RFC 2486bis submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Done RFC 3576 MIBs submitted as an Informational RFC
Done RADIUS VLAN and Priority Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed Stan=
dard RFC (reduced in scope)
Done RADIUS Implementation Issues and Fixes draft submitted as an Informati=
onal RFC
Done RADIUS Filtering Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC=
 (split out from VLAN & Priority draft)
Done RFC 3576bis submitted as an Informational RFC (split out from Issues &=
 Fixes draft)
Done RADIUS Redirection Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed Standard R=
FC (split out from VLAN & Priority draft)
Done RADIUS Design Guidelines submitted as a Best Current Practice RFC
Done RADIUS Management Authorization I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard R=
FC
Done Reliable Transport Profile for RADIUS I-D submitted as a Proposed Stan=
dard RFC
Done Status-Server I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Done RADIUS Crypto-agility Requirements submitted as an Informational RFC
Done RADSEC (RADIUS over TCP/TLS) draft submitted as an Experimental RFC
May 2012 IPv6 Access I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
May 2012 Extended Attributes I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Jun 2012 Dynamic Discovery I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Jun 2012 IEEE 802 Attributes I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Aug 2012 RADIUS over DTLS I-D submitted as an Experimental RFC
Nov 2012    Traffic Statistics Attribute I-D submitted as a Proposed Standa=
rd RFC
Nov 2012    RADIUS packet fragmentation submitted as an Experimental RFC
Nov 2012 RFC 4282bis submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
Apr 2013 RADIUS support for NAI Internationalization I-D submitted as a Pro=
posed Standard RFC

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This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Protocol Extensio=
ns", prior to sending the document to the IESG for publication as  a propos=
ed standard RFC. We are asking review from both RADEXT and DIME WGs as a ma=
tter completeness.

The document is available for inspection here:
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions

The RADEXT WG last call will last until Wednesday May 23, 2012.   If you ha=
ve comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See below for =
summary of instructions.

Thanks,
Mauricio and Jouni

1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the RADEXT =
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This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Protocol Extensio=
ns", prior to sending the document to the IESG for publication as  a propos=
ed standard RFC. We are asking review from both RADEXT and DIME WGs as a ma=
tter completeness.

The document is available for inspection here:
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-radius-extensions

The RADEXT WG last call will last until Wednesday May 23, 2012.   If you ha=
ve comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See below for =
summary of instructions.

Thanks,
Mauricio and Jouni

1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the RADEXT =
WG site on the tools server:  http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login
2.       If you don=92t already have a login ID, you can obtain one by navi=
gating to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin
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e an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry form:http://trac.tools.ietf.o=
rg/wg/radext/trac/newticket
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a.       The Type: field should be set to =93defect=94 for an issue with th=
e current document text, or =93enhancement=94 for a proposed addition of fu=
nctionality (such as an additional requirement).
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r example, editorial issues are typically =93minor=94 or =93trivial=94.
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.
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he issue on.
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ocument (e.g. =93In WG Last Call=94 for a document in WG last call)
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From: "Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs)" <paul.congdon@hp.com>
To: "Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)" <mauricio.sanchez@hp.com>, "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, "radext@ietf.org" <radext@ietf.org>
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 20:35:57 +0100
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They have been contacted.  I forwarded to the 802 EC yesterday

From: Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:55 AM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); radext@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes forIEEE802Net=
works"

Between the both of you it sounds like the appropriate groups in IEEE have =
or will be contacted soon. Correct?

-MS


From: <Romascanu>, "dromasca@avaya.com<mailto:dromasca@avaya.com>" <dromasc=
a@avaya.com<mailto:dromasca@avaya.com>>
To: "Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs)" <paul.congdon@hp.com<mailto:paul.congdon@hp.=
com>>, Mauricio Sanchez <mauricio.sanchez@hp.com<mailto:mauricio.sanchez@hp=
.com>>, "radext@ietf.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>" <radext@ietf.org<mailto:r=
adext@ietf.org>>
Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes forIEEE802Net=
works"


Yes, please forward to the EC reflector.

Thanks,

Dan



-----Original Message-----
From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
Sent: Tue 5/8/2012 8:33 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); radext@ietf.or=
g<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes forIEEE802Net=
works"

I typically forward these type of announcements to the EC reflector and cal=
l attention to the appropriate WGs.  There are likely other wireless groups=
 that have interest.  I can forward for you.
Paul

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From: radext-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:radex=
t-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:30 AM
To: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); radext@iet=
f.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE802Ne=
tworks"

Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody
who can do it?

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);
> radext@ietf.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for
> IEEE802Networks"
>
> You may also want to include 802.11
>
> Paul
>
> -- Sent from my HP TouchPad
> ________________________________
> On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com<mailto:d=
romasca@avaya.com>>
> wrote:
> FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
> believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on
> this
> document would be very useful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radext-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:r=
adext-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM
> > To: radext@ietf.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
> > Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE
> > 802Networks"
> >
> > This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> > for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG
for
> > publication as a proposed standard RFC.
> >
> > The document is available for inspection here:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
> >
> > The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If
you
> > have comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See
> > below for summary of instructions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mauricio and Jouni
> >
> > 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
> > RADEXT WG site on the tools server:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login
> > 2.       If you don't already have a login ID, you can obtain one by
> > navigating to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin
> > 3.       Once you have obtained an account, and have logged in, you
> can
> > file an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry
> > form:http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket
> > 4.       When opening an issue:
> > a.       The Type: field should be set to "defect" for an issue with
> > the current document text, or "enhancement" for a proposed addition
> of
> > functionality (such as an additional requirement).
> > b.      The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the
> Issue.
> > For example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
> > c.       The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless,
I
> > know).
> > d.      The Component: field should be set to the document you are
> > filing the issue on.
> > e.      The Version: field should be set to "1.0".
> > f.        The Severity: field should be set to based on the status
of
> > the document (e.g. "In WG Last Call" for a document in WG last call)
> > g.        The Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless
> > inspiration seizes you.
> > h.      The Assign To: field is generally filled in with the email
> > address of the editor.
> > 5.       Typically it won't be necessary to enclose a file with the
> > ticket, but if you need to, select "I have files to attach to this
> > ticket".
> > 6.       If you want to preview your Issue, click on the "Preview"
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> > 7.       If you want to update an issue, go to the "View Tickets"
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mal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";colo=
r:#1F497D'>They have been contacted.&nbsp; I forwarded to the 802 EC yester=
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n></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding=
:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networki=
ng) <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> Romasca=
nu, Dan (Dan); Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); radext@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b>=
 Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes forIEEE802Networ=
ks&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5p=
t;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Between the both of you i=
t sounds like the appropriate groups in IEEE have or will be contacted soon=
. Correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
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nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-s=
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:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
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&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5=
C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From: =
</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri=
f";color:black'>&lt;Romascanu&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@avaya.c=
om">dromasca@avaya.com</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@avaya.com">=
dromasca@avaya.com</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>&quot;Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs)&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com">paul.congdon@hp.com</a>&gt;, =
Mauricio Sanchez &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mauricio.sanchez@hp.com">mauricio.sa=
nchez@hp.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:radext@ietf.org">radext@ietf.=
org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:radext@ietf.org">radext@ietf.org</a>&gt=
;<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attribu=
tes forIEEE802Networks&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";c=
olor:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p style=3D'margin-=
bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-=
serif";color:black'>Yes, please forward to the EC reflector.<br><br>Thanks,=
<br><br>Dan<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Congdon, Pau=
l T (HPLabs) [<a href=3D"mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com">mailto:paul.congdon@hp=
.com</a>]<br>Sent: Tue 5/8/2012 8:33 PM<br>To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanche=
z, Mauricio (HP Networking); <a href=3D"mailto:radext@ietf.org">radext@ietf=
.org</a><br>Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attribu=
tes forIEEE802Networks&quot;<br><br>I typically forward these type of annou=
ncements to the EC reflector and call attention to the appropriate WGs.&nbs=
p; There are likely other wireless groups that have interest.&nbsp; I can f=
orward for you.<br>Paul<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href=
=3D"mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org">radext-bounces@ietf.org</a> [<a href=3D=
"mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On Beh=
alf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)<br>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:30 AM<br>To: C=
ongdon, Paul T (HPLabs); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); <a href=3D"mail=
to:radext@ietf.org">radext@ietf.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG =
Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes for IEEE802Networks&quot;<br><br>Good po=
int - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody<br>who can =
do it?<br><br>Dan<br><br><br><br><br>&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt=
; From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [<a href=3D"mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com">ma=
ilto:paul.congdon@hp.com</a>]<br>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM<b=
r>&gt; To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);<br>&gt;=
 <a href=3D"mailto:radext@ietf.org">radext@ietf.org</a><br>&gt; Subject: Re=
: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes for<br>&gt; IEEE802=
Networks&quot;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; You may also want to include 802.11<br>&gt;<=
br>&gt; Paul<br>&gt;<br>&gt; -- Sent from my HP TouchPad<br>&gt; __________=
______________________<br>&gt; On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan)=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@avaya.com">dromasca@avaya.com</a>&gt;<br>&g=
t; wrote:<br>&gt; FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1=
 reflector. I<br>&gt; believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review =
and comment on<br>&gt; this<br>&gt; document would be very useful.<br>&gt;<=
br>&gt; Regards,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Dan<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt=
; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; &gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:rade=
xt-bounces@ietf.org">radext-bounces@ietf.org</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:radext-=
bounces@ietf.org">mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On<br>&gt; &gt; Behal=
f Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)<br>&gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, =
2012 12:46 AM<br>&gt; &gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:radext@ietf.org">radext@ie=
tf.org</a><br>&gt; &gt; Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS=
 Attributes for IEEE<br>&gt; &gt; 802Networks&quot;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &g=
t; This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on &quot;RADIUS Attribute=
s<br>&gt; &gt; for IEEE 802 Networks&quot;, prior to sending the document t=
o the IESG<br>for<br>&gt; &gt; publication as a proposed standard RFC.<br>&=
gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; The document is available for inspection here:<br>&gt=
; &gt; <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext">ht=
tp://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext</a><br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt=
; &gt; The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.&nbsp;&n=
bsp; If<br>you<br>&gt; &gt; have comments on the document, please file usin=
g TRAC system.&nbsp; See<br>&gt; &gt; below for summary of instructions.<br=
>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Thanks,<br>&gt; &gt; Mauricio and Jouni<br>&gt; &gt=
;<br>&gt; &gt; 1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To submit an issue in=
 TRAC, you first need to login to the<br>&gt; &gt; RADEXT WG site on the to=
ols server:<br>&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/lo=
gin">http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login</a><br>&gt; &gt; 2.&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you don't already have a login ID, you can =
obtain one by<br>&gt; &gt; navigating to this site:&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"=
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin</a=
><br>&gt; &gt; 3.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Once you have obtaine=
d an account, and have logged in, you<br>&gt; can<br>&gt; &gt; file an issu=
e by navigating to the&nbsp; ticket entry<br>&gt; &gt; form:<a href=3D"http=
://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket">http://trac.tools.ietf.org=
/wg/radext/trac/newticket</a><br>&gt; &gt; 4.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp; When opening an issue:<br>&gt; &gt; a.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp; The Type: field should be set to &quot;defect&quot; for an issue wit=
h<br>&gt; &gt; the current document text, or &quot;enhancement&quot; for a =
proposed addition<br>&gt; of<br>&gt; &gt; functionality (such as an additio=
nal requirement).<br>&gt; &gt; b.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Priorit=
y: field is set based on the severity of the<br>&gt; Issue.<br>&gt; &gt; Fo=
r example, editorial issues are typically &quot;minor&quot; or &quot;trivia=
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To: "Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)" <mauricio.sanchez@hp.com>, "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, "radext@ietf.org" <radext@ietf.org>
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They have been contacted.  I forwarded to the 802 EC yesterday

From: Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:55 AM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); radext@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes forIEEE802Net=
works"

Between the both of you it sounds like the appropriate groups in IEEE have =
or will be contacted soon. Correct?

-MS


From: <Romascanu>, "dromasca@avaya.com<mailto:dromasca@avaya.com>" <dromasc=
a@avaya.com<mailto:dromasca@avaya.com>>
To: "Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs)" <paul.congdon@hp.com<mailto:paul.congdon@hp.=
com>>, Mauricio Sanchez <mauricio.sanchez@hp.com<mailto:mauricio.sanchez@hp=
.com>>, "radext@ietf.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>" <radext@ietf.org<mailto:r=
adext@ietf.org>>
Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes forIEEE802Net=
works"


Yes, please forward to the EC reflector.

Thanks,

Dan



-----Original Message-----
From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
Sent: Tue 5/8/2012 8:33 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); radext@ietf.or=
g<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes forIEEE802Net=
works"

I typically forward these type of announcements to the EC reflector and cal=
l attention to the appropriate WGs.  There are likely other wireless groups=
 that have interest.  I can forward for you.
Paul

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t-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:30 AM
To: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); radext@iet=
f.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE802Ne=
tworks"

Good point - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody
who can do it?

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);
> radext@ietf.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for
> IEEE802Networks"
>
> You may also want to include 802.11
>
> Paul
>
> -- Sent from my HP TouchPad
> ________________________________
> On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) <dromasca@avaya.com<mailto:d=
romasca@avaya.com>>
> wrote:
> FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1 reflector. I
> believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review and comment on
> this
> document would be very useful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radext-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org> [mailto:r=
adext-bounces@ietf.org] On
> > Behalf Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 12:46 AM
> > To: radext@ietf.org<mailto:radext@ietf.org>
> > Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: "RADIUS Attributes for IEEE
> > 802Networks"
> >
> > This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on "RADIUS Attributes
> > for IEEE 802 Networks", prior to sending the document to the IESG
for
> > publication as a proposed standard RFC.
> >
> > The document is available for inspection here:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext
> >
> > The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.   If
you
> > have comments on the document, please file using TRAC system.  See
> > below for summary of instructions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mauricio and Jouni
> >
> > 1.       To submit an issue in TRAC, you first need to login to the
> > RADEXT WG site on the tools server:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login
> > 2.       If you don't already have a login ID, you can obtain one by
> > navigating to this site:   http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin
> > 3.       Once you have obtained an account, and have logged in, you
> can
> > file an issue by navigating to the  ticket entry
> > form:http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket
> > 4.       When opening an issue:
> > a.       The Type: field should be set to "defect" for an issue with
> > the current document text, or "enhancement" for a proposed addition
> of
> > functionality (such as an additional requirement).
> > b.      The Priority: field is set based on the severity of the
> Issue.
> > For example, editorial issues are typically "minor" or "trivial".
> > c.       The Milestone: field should be set to milestone1 (useless,
I
> > know).
> > d.      The Component: field should be set to the document you are
> > filing the issue on.
> > e.      The Version: field should be set to "1.0".
> > f.        The Severity: field should be set to based on the status
of
> > the document (e.g. "In WG Last Call" for a document in WG last call)
> > g.        The Keywords: and CC: fields can be left blank unless
> > inspiration seizes you.
> > h.      The Assign To: field is generally filled in with the email
> > address of the editor.
> > 5.       Typically it won't be necessary to enclose a file with the
> > ticket, but if you need to, select "I have files to attach to this
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> > 6.       If you want to preview your Issue, click on the "Preview"
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> > 7.       If you want to update an issue, go to the "View Tickets"
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mal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";colo=
r:#1F497D'>They have been contacted.&nbsp; I forwarded to the 802 EC yester=
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;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networki=
ng) <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 09, 2012 10:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> Romasca=
nu, Dan (Dan); Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs); radext@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b>=
 Re: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes forIEEE802Networ=
ks&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5p=
t;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Between the both of you i=
t sounds like the appropriate groups in IEEE have or will be contacted soon=
. Correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
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:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
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</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-seri=
f";color:black'>&lt;Romascanu&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@avaya.c=
om">dromasca@avaya.com</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@avaya.com">=
dromasca@avaya.com</a>&gt;<br><b>To: </b>&quot;Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs)&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com">paul.congdon@hp.com</a>&gt;, =
Mauricio Sanchez &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mauricio.sanchez@hp.com">mauricio.sa=
nchez@hp.com</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:radext@ietf.org">radext@ietf.=
org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:radext@ietf.org">radext@ietf.org</a>&gt=
;<br><b>Subject: </b>RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attribu=
tes forIEEE802Networks&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMso=
Normal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";c=
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bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-=
serif";color:black'>Yes, please forward to the EC reflector.<br><br>Thanks,=
<br><br>Dan<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Congdon, Pau=
l T (HPLabs) [<a href=3D"mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com">mailto:paul.congdon@hp=
.com</a>]<br>Sent: Tue 5/8/2012 8:33 PM<br>To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanche=
z, Mauricio (HP Networking); <a href=3D"mailto:radext@ietf.org">radext@ietf=
.org</a><br>Subject: RE: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attribu=
tes forIEEE802Networks&quot;<br><br>I typically forward these type of annou=
ncements to the EC reflector and call attention to the appropriate WGs.&nbs=
p; There are likely other wireless groups that have interest.&nbsp; I can f=
orward for you.<br>Paul<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href=
=3D"mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org">radext-bounces@ietf.org</a> [<a href=3D=
"mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On Beh=
alf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan)<br>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:30 AM<br>To: C=
ongdon, Paul T (HPLabs); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking); <a href=3D"mail=
to:radext@ietf.org">radext@ietf.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [radext] RADEXT WG =
Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes for IEEE802Networks&quot;<br><br>Good po=
int - can you forward to their reflector or do you know anybody<br>who can =
do it?<br><br>Dan<br><br><br><br><br>&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt=
; From: Congdon, Paul T (HPLabs) [<a href=3D"mailto:paul.congdon@hp.com">ma=
ilto:paul.congdon@hp.com</a>]<br>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 6:26 PM<b=
r>&gt; To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking);<br>&gt;=
 <a href=3D"mailto:radext@ietf.org">radext@ietf.org</a><br>&gt; Subject: Re=
: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS Attributes for<br>&gt; IEEE802=
Networks&quot;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; You may also want to include 802.11<br>&gt;<=
br>&gt; Paul<br>&gt;<br>&gt; -- Sent from my HP TouchPad<br>&gt; __________=
______________________<br>&gt; On May 8, 2012 1:47 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan)=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dromasca@avaya.com">dromasca@avaya.com</a>&gt;<br>&g=
t; wrote:<br>&gt; FYI - I forwarded the WGLC announcement to the IEEE 802.1=
 reflector. I<br>&gt; believe having experts from the IEEE 802.1 WG review =
and comment on<br>&gt; this<br>&gt; document would be very useful.<br>&gt;<=
br>&gt; Regards,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Dan<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt=
; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>&gt; &gt; From: <a href=3D"mailto:rade=
xt-bounces@ietf.org">radext-bounces@ietf.org</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:radext-=
bounces@ietf.org">mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On<br>&gt; &gt; Behal=
f Of Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)<br>&gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 08, =
2012 12:46 AM<br>&gt; &gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:radext@ietf.org">radext@ie=
tf.org</a><br>&gt; &gt; Subject: [radext] RADEXT WG Last Call: &quot;RADIUS=
 Attributes for IEEE<br>&gt; &gt; 802Networks&quot;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &g=
t; This is an announcement of RADEXT WG last call on &quot;RADIUS Attribute=
s<br>&gt; &gt; for IEEE 802 Networks&quot;, prior to sending the document t=
o the IESG<br>for<br>&gt; &gt; publication as a proposed standard RFC.<br>&=
gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; The document is available for inspection here:<br>&gt=
; &gt; <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext">ht=
tp://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext</a><br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt=
; &gt; The RADEXT WG last call will last until Monday May 21, 2012.&nbsp;&n=
bsp; If<br>you<br>&gt; &gt; have comments on the document, please file usin=
g TRAC system.&nbsp; See<br>&gt; &gt; below for summary of instructions.<br=
>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Thanks,<br>&gt; &gt; Mauricio and Jouni<br>&gt; &gt=
;<br>&gt; &gt; 1.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To submit an issue in=
 TRAC, you first need to login to the<br>&gt; &gt; RADEXT WG site on the to=
ols server:<br>&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/lo=
gin">http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/login</a><br>&gt; &gt; 2.&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you don't already have a login ID, you can =
obtain one by<br>&gt; &gt; navigating to this site:&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"=
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin">http://trac.tools.ietf.org/newlogin</a=
><br>&gt; &gt; 3.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Once you have obtaine=
d an account, and have logged in, you<br>&gt; can<br>&gt; &gt; file an issu=
e by navigating to the&nbsp; ticket entry<br>&gt; &gt; form:<a href=3D"http=
://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/newticket">http://trac.tools.ietf.org=
/wg/radext/trac/newticket</a><br>&gt; &gt; 4.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp; When opening an issue:<br>&gt; &gt; a.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp; The Type: field should be set to &quot;defect&quot; for an issue wit=
h<br>&gt; &gt; the current document text, or &quot;enhancement&quot; for a =
proposed addition<br>&gt; of<br>&gt; &gt; functionality (such as an additio=
nal requirement).<br>&gt; &gt; b.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Priorit=
y: field is set based on the severity of the<br>&gt; Issue.<br>&gt; &gt; Fo=
r example, editorial issues are typically &quot;minor&quot; or &quot;trivia=
l&quot;.<br>&gt; &gt; c.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Milestone:=
 field should be set to milestone1 (useless,<br>I<br>&gt; &gt; know).<br>&g=
t; &gt; d.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Component: field should be set=
 to the document you are<br>&gt; &gt; filing the issue on.<br>&gt; &gt; e.&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Version: field should be set to &quot;1.0=
&quot;.<br>&gt; &gt; f.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Sever=
ity: field should be set to based on the status<br>of<br>&gt; &gt; the docu=
ment (e.g. &quot;In WG Last Call&quot; for a document in WG last call)<br>&=
gt; &gt; g.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Keywords: and CC:=
 fields can be left blank unless<br>&gt; &gt; inspiration seizes you.<br>&g=
t; &gt; h.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Assign To: field is generally =
filled in with the email<br>&gt; &gt; address of the editor.<br>&gt; &gt; 5=
.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Typically it won't be necessary to en=
close a file with the<br>&gt; &gt; ticket, but if you need to, select &quot=
;I have files to attach to this<br>&gt; &gt; ticket&quot;.<br>&gt; &gt; 6.&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you want to preview your Issue, clic=
k on the &quot;Preview&quot;<br>&gt; &gt; button.&nbsp; When you're ready t=
o submit the issue, click on the &quot;Create<br>&gt; &gt; Ticket&quot; but=
ton.<br>&gt; &gt; 7.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you want to upd=
ate an issue, go to the &quot;View Tickets&quot;<br>&gt; page:<br>&gt; &gt;=
 <a href=3D"http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/report/1">http://trac=
.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/report/1</a>&nbsp; Click on the<br>&gt; tick=
et<br>&gt; &gt; # you want to update, and then modify the ticket fields as =
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I'd really like to see the advancing of this document, because I have a draft (http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-radius-opt/), which has turned to be draft-ietf, has referred to the attributes defined in this draft.

Comments for discussion on this draft:

1. Abstract

<quote> The attributes, which are
used for authorization and accounting, enable assignment of a host
IPv6 address and IPv6 DNS server address via DHCPv6; ... </quote>

Per the section 1 & 2.2, DNS-Server-IPv6-Address is not only used by DHCPv6, but also by RA. Right?


2. Introduction
<quote> Assignment of an IPv6 DNS server address, via DHCPv6 or [RFC5006]. </quote>
2.2  Recursive DNS Servers
<quote>The IPv6 address of a DNS server can also
be conveyed to the host using ICMPv6 with Router Advertisements, via
the experimental [RFC5006] option. </quote>

RFC5006 has obsoleted by RFC6106.


3. Deployment Scenarios

<quote>...Figure 1. It
is composed of a IP Routing Residential Gateway (RG) or host, a Layer
2 Access-Node (e.g. a DSLAM), one or more IP Network Access Servers
(NASes), and an AAA server. The RG or host can be expected to be
multi homed to one or more NASes. </quote>

I can't find multiple NASes in the Fig. 1.

<quote>...Figure 1</quote>

Can the denotation of AN be replaced by (Layer-2 broadband) Access Network and we don't mention (DSL) and (Ethernet) in Fig.1?


2.1 IPv6 Address Assignment

<quote>DHCPv6 [RFC3315] provides a mechanism to assign one or more or non-temporary
IPv6 addresses to hosts. </quote>

Typo - 1 more 'or' in the above sentence.


2.4  Delegated IPv6 Prefix Pool

<quote>Since DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation can conceivably be used on the same
network as SLAAC, it is possible for the Delegated-IPv6-Prefix-Pool
and Framed-IPv6-Pool attributes to be included within the same
packet. To avoid ambiguity in this scenario, use of the Delegated-
IPv6-Prefix-Pool attribute should be restricted to authorization and
accounting of prefix pools used in DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation and the
Framed-IPv6-Pool attribute should be used for authorization and
accounting of prefix pools used in SLAAC. </quote>

I am still not sure why we can't use 2x Framed-Pool (88 defined in RFC2869) attributes for this case? One Framed-Pool (88) is for DHCPv6, the other Framed-Pool (88) is for SLAAC.

I quote the description of 'Framed-Pool' in RFC2869 here, 'This Attribute contains the name of an assigned address pool that
SHOULD be used to assign an address for the user. If a NAS does
not support multiple address pools, the NAS should ignore this
Attribute. Address pools are usually used for IP addresses, but
can be used for other protocols if the NAS supports pools for
those protocols.'


2.5  Stateful IPv6 address Pool

I still have not got the reason why we can't use 'Frame-Pool' instead of this new attribute.


Best Regards,
Leaf


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Folks,

The I-D has been revised to reflect the comments regarding the 
attribute format and the example broadband network scenario.
Everybody happy with the changes in Sections 2, 2.3 and 3.3 ?

- Jouni & Mauricio


On May 7, 2012, at 3:01 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:

> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the RADIUS EXTensions Working Group of the IETF.
> 
> 	Title           : RADIUS attributes for IPv6 Access Networks
> 	Author(s)       : Benoit Lourdelet
>                          Wojciech Dec
>                          Behcet Sarikaya
>                          Glen Zorn
>                          David Miles
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-radext-ipv6-access-07.txt
> 	Pages           : 14
> 	Date            : 2012-05-07
> 
>   This document specifies additional IPv6 RADIUS attributes useful in
>   residential broadband network deployments.  The attributes, which are
>   used for authorization and accounting, enable assignment of a host
>   IPv6 address and IPv6 DNS server address via DHCPv6; assignment of an
>   IPv6 route announced via router advertisement; assignment of a named
>   IPv6 delegated prefix pool; and assignment of a named IPv6 pool for
>   host DHCPv6 addressing.
> 

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Hello Leaf,

Thanks for your feedback. We'll make the necessary editorial changes and
resubmit the draft.

Answering to some of your specific queries below, and also call for the
chairs attention and guidance if appropriate here.

On 11/05/2012 12:44, "Leaf yeh" <leaf.y.yeh@huawei.com> wrote:

> 2.4  Delegated IPv6 Prefix Pool
> 
> <quote>Since DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation can conceivably be used on the same
> network as SLAAC, it is possible for the Delegated-IPv6-Prefix-Pool
> and Framed-IPv6-Pool attributes to be included within the same
> packet. To avoid ambiguity in this scenario, use of the Delegated-
> IPv6-Prefix-Pool attribute should be restricted to authorization and
> accounting of prefix pools used in DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation and the
> Framed-IPv6-Pool attribute should be used for authorization and
> accounting of prefix pools used in SLAAC. </quote>
> 
> I am still not sure why we can't use 2x Framed-Pool (88 defined in RFC2869)
> attributes for this case? One Framed-Pool (88) is for DHCPv6, the other
> Framed-Pool (88) is for SLAAC.

This point and specific question has been discussed both on the mailing list
and during the IETF 82 meeting and consensus established as per the meeting
minutes (see point 2):
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/minutes?item=minutes82.html
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/radext/current/msg02318.html

> 
> I quote the description of 'Framed-Pool' in RFC2869 here, 'This Attribute
> contains the name of an assigned address pool that
> SHOULD be used to assign an address for the user. If a NAS does
> not support multiple address pools, the NAS should ignore this
> Attribute. Address pools are usually used for IP addresses, but
> can be used for other protocols if the NAS supports pools for
> those protocols.'
> 
> 
> 2.5  Stateful IPv6 address Pool
> 
> I still have not got the reason why we can't use 'Frame-Pool' instead of this
> new attribute.

This is the same question, and same answer applies.

Thanks,
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Hello Leaf,

Thanks for your feedback. We'll make the necessary editorial changes and
resubmit the draft.

Answering to some of your specific queries below, and also call for the
chairs attention and guidance if appropriate here.

On 11/05/2012 12:44, "Leaf yeh" <leaf.y.yeh@huawei.com> wrote:

> 2.4  Delegated IPv6 Prefix Pool
> 
> <quote>Since DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation can conceivably be used on the same
> network as SLAAC, it is possible for the Delegated-IPv6-Prefix-Pool
> and Framed-IPv6-Pool attributes to be included within the same
> packet. To avoid ambiguity in this scenario, use of the Delegated-
> IPv6-Prefix-Pool attribute should be restricted to authorization and
> accounting of prefix pools used in DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation and the
> Framed-IPv6-Pool attribute should be used for authorization and
> accounting of prefix pools used in SLAAC. </quote>
> 
> I am still not sure why we can't use 2x Framed-Pool (88 defined in RFC2869)
> attributes for this case? One Framed-Pool (88) is for DHCPv6, the other
> Framed-Pool (88) is for SLAAC.

This point and specific question has been discussed both on the mailing list
and during the IETF 82 meeting and consensus established as per the meeting
minutes (see point 2):
http://tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/minutes?item=minutes82.html
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/radext/current/msg02318.html

> 
> I quote the description of 'Framed-Pool' in RFC2869 here, 'This Attribute
> contains the name of an assigned address pool that
> SHOULD be used to assign an address for the user. If a NAS does
> not support multiple address pools, the NAS should ignore this
> Attribute. Address pools are usually used for IP addresses, but
> can be used for other protocols if the NAS supports pools for
> those protocols.'
> 
> 
> 2.5  Stateful IPv6 address Pool
> 
> I still have not got the reason why we can't use 'Frame-Pool' instead of this
> new attribute.

This is the same question, and same answer applies.

Thanks,
Woj.




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Hi Jouni,

Thanks for the comments.   Response inline below.

Cheers,

Joe
On May 8, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Jouni Malinen wrote:

>> 2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code
>=20
>> A summary of the WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute format is shown below.  =
The fields are transmitted from left to right.
>>=20
>>  0                   1                   2                   3=20
>>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>> |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             |
>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>=20
>> The Value field is two octets containing a 16-bit unsigned integer =
drawn from Table 8-36 in clause 8.4.1.7 of IEEE 802.11-2012.  The =
value=92s least significant octet is contained in bits 23-16 and most =
significant octet in bits 31-24 (network octet order).  Note: not all =
reason codes defined in the Table 8-36 are expected to be used by an AS.
>=20
> Hmm.. Is this really suggesting a RADIUS attribute that is using =
little
> endian byte order? Aren't pretty pretty much all other RADIUS =
attributes
> defined using big endian byte order? While I can understand that this
> comes from the IEEE 802.11 side where the Reason Code is indeed little
> endian, this type of difference between RADIUS attributes is just =
asking
> for issues..
>=20


[Joe]   I think I agree that we need to be specific about the byte order =
and I agree that we should be using big-endian order.=20

>> [Note]: the importance of including this attribute is for =
authentication and authorization of mobile devices in public Wi-Fi =
access; it is important to inform the mobile when authorization is =
denied, even though authentication may have been successful.  This can =
occur for AS policy reasons or for reasons related to the user=92s =
subscription.  The following Reason codes for public Wi-Fi access =
networks were added by the IEEE 802.11u-2011 amendment:
>=20
> That IEEE 802.11u-2011 reference should be replaced with a reference =
to
> IEEE Std 802.11-2012.
>=20
>> Reason
>> Value   Description
>> 27      Disassociated because session terminated by SP request
>> 28      Disassociated because of lack of SP roaming agreement
>> 29      Requested service rejected because of SP cipher suite or AKM =
requirement
>> 30      Requested service not authorized in this location
>=20
> Is Reason Code the best place for sending this information? It is a =
bit
> difficult to extend this with any new potentially needed value while
> something like EAP notifications could be work better for this.
>=20

[Joe]  I think there is a tradeoff here.  THere is a field already =
defined for this in 802.11 that can be extended with existing error =
codes.  These error codes are can be used by the mobile in whatever way =
it fits.    EAP notifications are limited to text strings for display =
which limits how the mobile can use them and introduces language and =
encoding issues.   =20

>> 2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher
>>=20
>> Description
>>=20
>> The WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute contains information on the =
pairwise cipher suite used to establish the robust security network =
association (RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.
>>=20
>> A WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an =
Access-Request packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute =
format is shown below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
>=20
> Is there some general text pointing out that these attributes are
> applicable only for the case of IEEE 802.11 networks? This SHOULD
> statement could be interpreted as a strong recommendation for any NAS =
to
> include the attribute while it should really only apply to the case
> where the connection is an IEEE 802.11 RSNA.
>=20

[Joe] Good point.=20

>> 2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
>>=20
>> Description
>>=20
>> The WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute contains information on the group =
cipher suite used to establish the robust security network association =
(RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.
>=20
> If we are adding this, we could as well add WLAN-Group-Mgmt-Cipher =
from
> IEEE 802.11w (now in IEEE Std 802.11-2012) to cover the case of
> protected management frames. Though, this would also need another
> attribute to indicate whether the station negotiated use of the
> mechanism.
>=20

[Joe] We can add this.  Why couldn't the presence of the attribute be =
used to indicate that the station negotiated use of the mechanism?

> --=20
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Hi Jouni,

Thanks for the comments.   Response inline below.

Cheers,

Joe
On May 8, 2012, at 3:35 PM, Jouni Malinen wrote:

>> 2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code
> =

>> A summary of the WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute format is shown below.  The =
fields are transmitted from left to right.
>> =

>>  0                   1                   2                   3 =

>>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>> |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             |
>> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> =

>> The Value field is two octets containing a 16-bit unsigned integer drawn=
 from Table 8-36 in clause 8.4.1.7 of IEEE 802.11-2012.  The value=92s leas=
t significant octet is contained in bits 23-16 and most significant octet i=
n bits 31-24 (network octet order).  Note: not all reason codes defined in =
the Table 8-36 are expected to be used by an AS.
> =

> Hmm.. Is this really suggesting a RADIUS attribute that is using little
> endian byte order? Aren't pretty pretty much all other RADIUS attributes
> defined using big endian byte order? While I can understand that this
> comes from the IEEE 802.11 side where the Reason Code is indeed little
> endian, this type of difference between RADIUS attributes is just asking
> for issues..
> =



[Joe]   I think I agree that we need to be specific about the byte order an=
d I agree that we should be using big-endian order. =


>> [Note]: the importance of including this attribute is for authentication=
 and authorization of mobile devices in public Wi-Fi access; it is importan=
t to inform the mobile when authorization is denied, even though authentica=
tion may have been successful.  This can occur for AS policy reasons or for=
 reasons related to the user=92s subscription.  The following Reason codes =
for public Wi-Fi access networks were added by the IEEE 802.11u-2011 amendm=
ent:
> =

> That IEEE 802.11u-2011 reference should be replaced with a reference to
> IEEE Std 802.11-2012.
> =

>> Reason
>> Value   Description
>> 27      Disassociated because session terminated by SP request
>> 28      Disassociated because of lack of SP roaming agreement
>> 29      Requested service rejected because of SP cipher suite or AKM req=
uirement
>> 30      Requested service not authorized in this location
> =

> Is Reason Code the best place for sending this information? It is a bit
> difficult to extend this with any new potentially needed value while
> something like EAP notifications could be work better for this.
> =


[Joe]  I think there is a tradeoff here.  THere is a field already defined =
for this in 802.11 that can be extended with existing error codes.  These e=
rror codes are can be used by the mobile in whatever way it fits.    EAP no=
tifications are limited to text strings for display which limits how the mo=
bile can use them and introduces language and encoding issues.    =


>> 2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher
>> =

>> Description
>> =

>> The WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute contains information on the pairwise =
cipher suite used to establish the robust security network association (RSN=
A) between the AP and mobile device.
>> =

>> A WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Req=
uest packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute format is sho=
wn below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
> =

> Is there some general text pointing out that these attributes are
> applicable only for the case of IEEE 802.11 networks? This SHOULD
> statement could be interpreted as a strong recommendation for any NAS to
> include the attribute while it should really only apply to the case
> where the connection is an IEEE 802.11 RSNA.
> =


[Joe] Good point. =


>> 2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
>> =

>> Description
>> =

>> The WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute contains information on the group cipher=
 suite used to establish the robust security network association (RSNA) bet=
ween the AP and mobile device.
> =

> If we are adding this, we could as well add WLAN-Group-Mgmt-Cipher from
> IEEE 802.11w (now in IEEE Std 802.11-2012) to cover the case of
> protected management frames. Though, this would also need another
> attribute to indicate whether the station negotiated use of the
> mechanism.
> =


[Joe] We can add this.  Why couldn't the presence of the attribute be used =
to indicate that the station negotiated use of the mechanism?

> -- =

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Hi Lionel,

Thanks for the quick review, responses below.

Cheers,

Joe
On May 8, 2012, at 6:06 PM, <lionel.morand@orange.com> =
<lionel.morand@orange.com> wrote:

> Here are some questions/comments on these proposed attributes.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Lionel
>=20
> 2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code
>=20
> [Lionel] what about reusing Message-Reply attribute in Access-Reject =
and
> define additional values for Acct-Terminate-Cause used in
> Disconnect-Reject (as described in
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3580#section-2.1) ?  =20
>=20

[Joe]  We could overload the message-reply attribute, but we would need =
to define how to map the text in the message-reply attribute into the =
802.11 response.  It seemed better to use a new attribute for this. =20

>=20
> 2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher=20
> 2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
> 2.12.  WLAN-AKM-Suite
>=20
> [Lionel] If my understanding is correct, it is expected that the AAA
> server could reject the access authorization request based on these
> attributes describing the existing RSNA between the AP and mobile =
node.
> If the resulting RSNA is not suitable for the SP, I'm not sure if that
> this is something that should/could be managed per user authorization
> request but rather via local policies or SLA between partners. =20
>=20

[Joe]  I think this information would be useful for both enterprise and =
SP AAA.   I think that you are correct that in many cases the policy =
would not be varied on a per user basis,   Even if per-user =
authorization is not used, it is still useful to know what ciphers are =
negotiated for auditing and channel bindings.

>=20
> 2.12.  WLAN-RF-Band
>=20
> The WLAN-RF-Band Attribute contains information on the RF band used by
> the AP for transmission and reception of information to and from the
> mobile device.  This information can be used, for example, to provide =
a
> relative quality of experience indication for the mobile device's user
> (i.e., some RF bands have more interference than others).
>=20
> [Lionel] if it is an indication for the user, why is it intended to
> provide this information to the AAA server?
>=20

[Joe] Good question.  I think that text is erroneous and should be =
removed. =20

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Hi Lionel,

Thanks for the quick review, responses below.

Cheers,

Joe
On May 8, 2012, at 6:06 PM, <lionel.morand@orange.com> <lionel.morand@orange.com> wrote:

> Here are some questions/comments on these proposed attributes.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Lionel
> 
> 2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code
> 
> [Lionel] what about reusing Message-Reply attribute in Access-Reject and
> define additional values for Acct-Terminate-Cause used in
> Disconnect-Reject (as described in
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3580#section-2.1) ?   
> 

[Joe]  We could overload the message-reply attribute, but we would need to define how to map the text in the message-reply attribute into the 802.11 response.  It seemed better to use a new attribute for this.  

> 
> 2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher 
> 2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
> 2.12.  WLAN-AKM-Suite
> 
> [Lionel] If my understanding is correct, it is expected that the AAA
> server could reject the access authorization request based on these
> attributes describing the existing RSNA between the AP and mobile node.
> If the resulting RSNA is not suitable for the SP, I'm not sure if that
> this is something that should/could be managed per user authorization
> request but rather via local policies or SLA between partners.  
> 

[Joe]  I think this information would be useful for both enterprise and SP AAA.   I think that you are correct that in many cases the policy would not be varied on a per user basis,   Even if per-user authorization is not used, it is still useful to know what ciphers are negotiated for auditing and channel bindings.

> 
> 2.12.  WLAN-RF-Band
> 
> The WLAN-RF-Band Attribute contains information on the RF band used by
> the AP for transmission and reception of information to and from the
> mobile device.  This information can be used, for example, to provide a
> relative quality of experience indication for the mobile device's user
> (i.e., some RF bands have more interference than others).
> 
> [Lionel] if it is an indication for the user, why is it intended to
> provide this information to the AAA server?
> 

[Joe] Good question.  I think that text is erroneous and should be removed.  

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On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 01:02:08PM -0700, Joe Salowey wrote:
> >> 2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
> > If we are adding this, we could as well add WLAN-Group-Mgmt-Cipher from
> > IEEE 802.11w (now in IEEE Std 802.11-2012) to cover the case of
> > protected management frames. Though, this would also need another
> > attribute to indicate whether the station negotiated use of the
> > mechanism.

> [Joe] We can add this.  Why couldn't the presence of the attribute be used to indicate that the station negotiated use of the mechanism?

It could. Though, it would be a bit confusing in this particular case
since the group management cipher suite is an attribute of the BSS (AP
configuration) while the negotiation here is referring to whether the
station negotiated to use management frame protection during
association.

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On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 01:02:08PM -0700, Joe Salowey wrote:
> >> 2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
> > If we are adding this, we could as well add WLAN-Group-Mgmt-Cipher from
> > IEEE 802.11w (now in IEEE Std 802.11-2012) to cover the case of
> > protected management frames. Though, this would also need another
> > attribute to indicate whether the station negotiated use of the
> > mechanism.

> [Joe] We can add this.  Why couldn't the presence of the attribute be used to indicate that the station negotiated use of the mechanism?

It could. Though, it would be a bit confusing in this particular case
since the group management cipher suite is an attribute of the BSS (AP
configuration) while the negotiation here is referring to whether the
station negotiated to use management frame protection during
association.

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Jouni had a question regarding the SSID encoding:
	=
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/radext/current/msg07538.html

Do you think we need to indicate the SSID encoding?

- the other Jouni

On May 9, 2012, at 12:09 AM, Joe Salowey wrote:

> I've received a few off list suggestions for additional RADIUS =
attributes to add to RADIUS Attributes for IEEE 802 Networks.  These =
include
>=20
> 1.   WLAN-Reason-Code  - used to transmit the reason for =
authentication failure from AAA to AP in an Access-Reject.  The code is =
included in reason code of a Disassociation or De-authentication Frame
> 2.   WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher - communicates the negotiated pairwise =
cipher from the AP to the AAA.
> 3.  WLAN-Group-Cipher - communicates the negotiated group cipher from =
the AP to the AAA.=20
> 4.  WLAN-AKM-Suite - contains information on the authentication and =
key management suite negotiated buy the AP.=20
> 5.  WLAN-RF-Band - contains information on the RF band used by the AP. =
=20
>=20
> Below is suggested text for these attributes from Dave Stephenson:
>=20
> Thanks,
>=20
> Joe
>=20
> 2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code
>=20
> Description
>=20
> The WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute contains information on the reason for =
authorization failure subsequent to a mobile device=92s authentication =
request towards a Wi-Fi access network.
>=20
> A WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute MAY be included within an Access-Reject =
or Disconnect-Request packet.  Upon receipt of an Access-Reject packet, =
the WLAN-Reason-Code value is copied by the Authenticator / AP into the =
Reason code field of a Disassociation or Deauthentication frame (see =
clause 8.3.3.4 and 8.3.3.12 respectively in IEEE 802.11-2012), which is =
subsequently transmitted to the Supplicant / mobile device.  A summary =
of the WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute format is shown below.  The fields are =
transmitted from left to right.
>=20
>  0                   1                   2                   3=20
>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             |
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>=20
> Code
> tbd8
>=20
> Length
> =3D2
>=20
> Value
> The Value field is two octets containing a 16-bit unsigned integer =
drawn from Table 8-36 in clause 8.4.1.7 of IEEE 802.11-2012.  The =
value=92s least significant octet is contained in bits 23-16 and most =
significant octet in bits 31-24 (network octet order).  Note: not all =
reason codes defined in the Table 8-36 are expected to be used by an AS.
>=20
> [Note]: the importance of including this attribute is for =
authentication and authorization of mobile devices in public Wi-Fi =
access; it is important to inform the mobile when authorization is =
denied, even though authentication may have been successful.  This can =
occur for AS policy reasons or for reasons related to the user=92s =
subscription.  The following Reason codes for public Wi-Fi access =
networks were added by the IEEE 802.11u-2011 amendment:
>=20
> Reason
> Code
> Value   Description
> 27      Disassociated because session terminated by SP request
> 28      Disassociated because of lack of SP roaming agreement
> 29      Requested service rejected because of SP cipher suite or AKM =
requirement
> 30      Requested service not authorized in this location
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> 2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher
>=20
> Description
>=20
> The WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute contains information on the =
pairwise cipher suite used to establish the robust security network =
association (RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.
>=20
> A WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an =
Access-Request packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute =
format is shown below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
>=20
>  0                   1                   2                   3=20
>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             =20
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>            Value                |
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>=20
> Code
> tbd9
>=20
> Length
> =3D4
>=20
> Value
> The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure =
8-187 with values drawn from Table 8-99 of IEEE 802.11-2012.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> 2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
>=20
> Description
>=20
> The WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute contains information on the group =
cipher suite used to establish the robust security network association =
(RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.
>=20
> A WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an =
Access-Request packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute =
format is shown below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
>=20
>  0                   1                   2                   3=20
>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             =20
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>            Value                |
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>=20
> Code
> tbd10
>=20
> Length
> =3D4
>=20
> Value
> The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure =
8-187 with values drawn from Table 8-99 of IEEE 802.11-2012.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> 2.12.  WLAN-AKM-Suite
>=20
> Description
>=20
> The WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute contains information on the =
authentication and key management suite used to establish the robust =
security network association (RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.
>=20
> A WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request =
packet.  A summary of the WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute format is shown =
below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
>=20
>  0                   1                   2                   3=20
>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> |     Type      |  Length       |             Value            =20
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>            Value                |
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>=20
> Code
> tbd11
>=20
> Length
> =3D4
>=20
> Value
> The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure =
8-187 with values drawn from Table 8-101 of IEEE 802.11-2012.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> 2.12.  WLAN-RF-Band
>=20
> Description
>=20
> The WLAN-RF-Band Attribute contains information on the RF band used by =
the AP for transmission and reception of information to and from the =
mobile device.  This information can be used, for example, to provide a =
relative quality of experience indication for the mobile device=92s user =
(i.e., some RF bands have more interference than others).
>=20
> A WLAN-RF-Band Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request =
packet.  A summary of the WLAN-RF-Band Attribute format is shown below.  =
The fields are transmitted from left to right.
>=20
>  0                   1                   2                   3=20
>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> |     Type      |  Length       |     Value     |   Reserved    |
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>=20
> Code
> tbd12
>=20
> Length
> =3D2
>=20
> Value
> The Value field is 1 octet having a value chosen from the table below:
> Band ID value     Meaning
>      0           TV white spaces
>      1           Sub-1 GHz (excluding TV white spaces)
>      2           2.4 GHz
>      3           3.6 GHz
>      4           4.9 and 5 GHz
>      5           60 GHz
>      6-255       Reserved
>=20
>=20
> [Note]: this table was copied from IEEE 802.11ad-d5.  I=92m not sure =
of the relative publication dates of this internet draft and IEEE =
802.11ad-d5.  Since it=92s generally not recommended to reference a =
draft specification in an RFC, I=92ve copied the table.  If we discover =
that the IEEE document will be published in time, then we could deleted =
the table and instead reference Table 8-53a in IEEE 802.11ad.
>=20
>=20
>=20
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Jouni had a question regarding the SSID encoding:
	http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/radext/current/msg07538.html

Do you think we need to indicate the SSID encoding?

- the other Jouni

On May 9, 2012, at 12:09 AM, Joe Salowey wrote:

> I've received a few off list suggestions for additional RADIUS attributes=
 to add to RADIUS Attributes for IEEE 802 Networks.  These include
> =

> 1.   WLAN-Reason-Code  - used to transmit the reason for authentication f=
ailure from AAA to AP in an Access-Reject.  The code is included in reason =
code of a Disassociation or De-authentication Frame
> 2.   WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher - communicates the negotiated pairwise cipher f=
rom the AP to the AAA.
> 3.  WLAN-Group-Cipher - communicates the negotiated group cipher from the=
 AP to the AAA. =

> 4.  WLAN-AKM-Suite - contains information on the authentication and key m=
anagement suite negotiated buy the AP. =

> 5.  WLAN-RF-Band - contains information on the RF band used by the AP.  =

> =

> Below is suggested text for these attributes from Dave Stephenson:
> =

> Thanks,
> =

> Joe
> =

> 2.9.  WLAN-Reason-Code
> =

> Description
> =

> The WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute contains information on the reason for aut=
horization failure subsequent to a mobile device=92s authentication request=
 towards a Wi-Fi access network.
> =

> A WLAN-Reason-Code Attribute MAY be included within an Access-Reject or D=
isconnect-Request packet.  Upon receipt of an Access-Reject packet, the WLA=
N-Reason-Code value is copied by the Authenticator / AP into the Reason cod=
e field of a Disassociation or Deauthentication frame (see clause 8.3.3.4 a=
nd 8.3.3.12 respectively in IEEE 802.11-2012), which is subsequently transm=
itted to the Supplicant / mobile device.  A summary of the WLAN-Reason-Code=
 Attribute format is shown below.  The fields are transmitted from left to =
right.
> =

>  0                   1                   2                   3 =

>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             |
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> =

> Code
> tbd8
> =

> Length
> =3D2
> =

> Value
> The Value field is two octets containing a 16-bit unsigned integer drawn =
from Table 8-36 in clause 8.4.1.7 of IEEE 802.11-2012.  The value=92s least=
 significant octet is contained in bits 23-16 and most significant octet in=
 bits 31-24 (network octet order).  Note: not all reason codes defined in t=
he Table 8-36 are expected to be used by an AS.
> =

> [Note]: the importance of including this attribute is for authentication =
and authorization of mobile devices in public Wi-Fi access; it is important=
 to inform the mobile when authorization is denied, even though authenticat=
ion may have been successful.  This can occur for AS policy reasons or for =
reasons related to the user=92s subscription.  The following Reason codes f=
or public Wi-Fi access networks were added by the IEEE 802.11u-2011 amendme=
nt:
> =

> Reason
> Code
> Value   Description
> 27      Disassociated because session terminated by SP request
> 28      Disassociated because of lack of SP roaming agreement
> 29      Requested service rejected because of SP cipher suite or AKM requ=
irement
> 30      Requested service not authorized in this location
> =

> =

> =

> =

> 2.10.  WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher
> =

> Description
> =

> The WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute contains information on the pairwise c=
ipher suite used to establish the robust security network association (RSNA=
) between the AP and mobile device.
> =

> A WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Requ=
est packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Pairwise-Cipher Attribute format is show=
n below.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
> =

>  0                   1                   2                   3 =

>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> |     Type      |  Length       |             Value              =

> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>            Value                |
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> =

> Code
> tbd9
> =

> Length
> =3D4
> =

> Value
> The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187 =
with values drawn from Table 8-99 of IEEE 802.11-2012.
> =

> =

> =

> =

> 2.11.  WLAN-Group-Cipher
> =

> Description
> =

> The WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute contains information on the group cipher =
suite used to establish the robust security network association (RSNA) betw=
een the AP and mobile device.
> =

> A WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request=
 packet.  A summary of the WLAN-Group-Cipher Attribute format is shown belo=
w.  The fields are transmitted from left to right.
> =

>  0                   1                   2                   3 =

>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> |     Type      |  Length       |             Value              =

> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>            Value                |
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> =

> Code
> tbd10
> =

> Length
> =3D4
> =

> Value
> The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187 =
with values drawn from Table 8-99 of IEEE 802.11-2012.
> =

> =

> =

> =

> 2.12.  WLAN-AKM-Suite
> =

> Description
> =

> The WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute contains information on the authentication a=
nd key management suite used to establish the robust security network assoc=
iation (RSNA) between the AP and mobile device.
> =

> A WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request pa=
cket.  A summary of the WLAN-AKM-Suite Attribute format is shown below.  Th=
e fields are transmitted from left to right.
> =

>  0                   1                   2                   3 =

>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> |     Type      |  Length       |             Value             =

> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>            Value                |
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> =

> Code
> tbd11
> =

> Length
> =3D4
> =

> Value
> The Value field is four octets formatted in accordance with Figure 8-187 =
with values drawn from Table 8-101 of IEEE 802.11-2012.
> =

> =

> =

> =

> 2.12.  WLAN-RF-Band
> =

> Description
> =

> The WLAN-RF-Band Attribute contains information on the RF band used by th=
e AP for transmission and reception of information to and from the mobile d=
evice.  This information can be used, for example, to provide a relative qu=
ality of experience indication for the mobile device=92s user (i.e., some R=
F bands have more interference than others).
> =

> A WLAN-RF-Band Attribute SHOULD be included within an Access-Request pack=
et.  A summary of the WLAN-RF-Band Attribute format is shown below.  The fi=
elds are transmitted from left to right.
> =

>  0                   1                   2                   3 =

>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> |     Type      |  Length       |     Value     |   Reserved    |
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> =

> Code
> tbd12
> =

> Length
> =3D2
> =

> Value
> The Value field is 1 octet having a value chosen from the table below:
> Band ID value     Meaning
>      0           TV white spaces
>      1           Sub-1 GHz (excluding TV white spaces)
>      2           2.4 GHz
>      3           3.6 GHz
>      4           4.9 and 5 GHz
>      5           60 GHz
>      6-255       Reserved
> =

> =

> [Note]: this table was copied from IEEE 802.11ad-d5.  I=92m not sure of t=
he relative publication dates of this internet draft and IEEE 802.11ad-d5. =
 Since it=92s generally not recommended to reference a draft specification =
in an RFC, I=92ve copied the table.  If we discover that the IEEE document =
will be published in time, then we could deleted the table and instead refe=
rence Table 8-53a in IEEE 802.11ad.
> =

> =

> =

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#110: syntax problem

 second phrase in the Abstract is broken.

 > This document proposes additional attributes for use within
    IEEE 802 networks, as well as providing clarifications on the usage
    of the EAP-Key-Name attribute, updating RFC 4072.


 probably s/providing/provides

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#111: Definitions for 802 or 802.11?

 The document according to the title and abstract is general for IEEE 802
 networks. However the definitions of Station and Supplicant in section 1.1
 sre 802.11 specific.

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#111: Definitions for 802 or 802.11?

Description changed by dromasca@…:

Old description:

> The document according to the title and abstract is general for IEEE 802
> networks. However the definitions of Station and Supplicant in section
> 1.1 sre 802.11 specific.

New description:

 The document according to the title and abstract is general for IEEE 802
 networks. However the definitions of Station and Supplicant in section 1.1
 are 802.11 specific.

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#112: define or refer 'privilege attacks'

 Unless it's a very common type of attack please define or provide a
 clarification for what means 'avoid elevation of privilege attacks' in 2.1

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#113: expand PMK at first occurence



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#114: encoding the IEEE 802.11 SSID

 In 2.7:

 > The Network-Id-Name Attribute SHOULD NOT be used to encode the IEEE
 802.11 SSID; as noted in [RFC3580], the Called-Station-Id Attribute is
 used for this purpose.

 Is there any case of exception? I am trying to understand why SHOULD NOT
 and not MUST NOT.

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#115: tables are not numbered

 please number tables in the document so that their content can be easier
 located and refered

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#116: typos in the table in section 4

 In the table in section 4 is UTF8Strin a typo, should it be UTF8String?

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Gentle reminder that we would appreciate hearing your thoughts, either
positive or negative, on proposal below.

Thanks,
Mauricio and Jouni 



On 5/9/12 10:54 AM, "Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)"
<mauricio.sanchez@hp.com> wrote:

>We have been discussing rechartering on and off since January.  Below is
>an updated proposal that we would appreciate your review and feedback.
>The changes can be summarized as follows:
>
> *   Updating completed work items and casting new dates for work items
>not accomplished per the dates in existing charter
> *   Addition of network access identifier work item
> *   Addition of traffic accounting work item
> *   Addition of packet fragmentation work item
>
>Thanks,
>Mauricio and Jouni
>
>---------------------------------------------
>Description of Working Group
>
>The RADIUS Extensions Working Group will focus on extensions to the
>RADIUS protocol required to expand and enrich the standard attribute
>space, address cryptographic algorithm agility, use of new secure
>transports and clarify its usage and definition.
>
>In order to enable interoperation of heterogeneous RADIUS/Diameter
>deployments, all RADEXT WG work items MUST contain a Diameter
>compatibility section, outlining how interoperability with Diameter will
>be maintained.
>Furthermore, to ensure backward compatibility with existing RADIUS
>implementations, as well as compatibility between RADIUS and Diameter,
>the following restrictions are imposed on extensions considered by the
>RADEXT WG:
>
>- All documents produced MUST specify means of interoperation with legacy
>RADIUS and, if possible, be backward compatible with existing RADIUS
>RFCs, including RFCs 2865-2869, 3162, 3575, 3579, 3580, 4668-4673,4675,
>5080, 5090, 5176 and 6158. Transport profiles should, if possible, be
>compatible with RFC 3539.
>
>- All RADIUS work MUST be compatible with equivalent facilities in
>Diameter. Where possible, new attributes should be defined so that the
>same attribute can be used in both RADIUS and Diameter without
>translation. In other cases a translation considerations section should
>be included in the specification.
>
>Work Items
>The immediate goals of the RADEXT working group are to address the
>following issues:
>- RADIUS attribute space extension. The standard RADIUS attribute space
>is currently being depleted. This document will provide additional
>standard attribute space, while maintaining backward compatibility with
>existing attributes.
>
>- IEEE 802 attributes. New attributes have been proposed to support IEEE
>802 standards for wired and wireless LANs. This work item will support
>authentication, authorization and accounting attributes needed by IEEE
>802 groups including IEEE 802.1, IEEE 802.11 and IEEE 802.16.
>
>- New RADIUS transports. A reliable transport profile for RADIUS will be
>developed, as well as specifications for Secure transports, including
>TCP/TLS (RADSEC) and UDP/DTLS.
>
>- Update and clarification of Network Access Identifiers (RFC4282).This
>work item will correct and clarify issues present with RFC4282 in two
>phases.  In first phase, RFC4282bis will be issued to eliminate
>fundamental incompatibilities with RADIUS around character encoding and
>NAI modifications by proxies.  In second phase, a fresh review of NAI
>internationalization requirements and behavior will be undertaken with a
>clear goal of maintaining compatibility with RADIUS.
>
>- RADIUS Accounting Extensions for Traffic Statistics. This work item
>will specify RADIUS accounting attributes for differentiated accounting
>polices and traffic recording.
>
>- Fragmentation of RADIUS packets to support exchanges exceeding the
>existing 4KB limit imposed by RFC2865.
>
>
>Goals and Milestones
>Done Updates to RFC 2618-2621 RADIUS MIBs submitted for publication
>Done SIP RADIUS authentication draft submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Done RFC 2486bis submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Done RFC 3576 MIBs submitted as an Informational RFC
>Done RADIUS VLAN and Priority Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed
>Standard RFC (reduced in scope)
>Done RADIUS Implementation Issues and Fixes draft submitted as an
>Informational RFC
>Done RADIUS Filtering Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed Standard
>RFC (split out from VLAN & Priority draft)
>Done RFC 3576bis submitted as an Informational RFC (split out from Issues
>& Fixes draft)
>Done RADIUS Redirection Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed Standard
>RFC (split out from VLAN & Priority draft)
>Done RADIUS Design Guidelines submitted as a Best Current Practice RFC
>Done RADIUS Management Authorization I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard
>RFC
>Done Reliable Transport Profile for RADIUS I-D submitted as a Proposed
>Standard RFC
>Done Status-Server I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Done RADIUS Crypto-agility Requirements submitted as an Informational RFC
>Done RADSEC (RADIUS over TCP/TLS) draft submitted as an Experimental RFC
>May 2012 IPv6 Access I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>May 2012 Extended Attributes I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Jun 2012 Dynamic Discovery I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Jun 2012 IEEE 802 Attributes I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Aug 2012 RADIUS over DTLS I-D submitted as an Experimental RFC
>Nov 2012    Traffic Statistics Attribute I-D submitted as a Proposed
>Standard RFC
>Nov 2012    RADIUS packet fragmentation submitted as an Experimental RFC
>Nov 2012 RFC 4282bis submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Apr 2013 RADIUS support for NAI Internationalization I-D submitted as a
>Proposed Standard RFC
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Gentle reminder that we would appreciate hearing your thoughts, either
positive or negative, on proposal below.

Thanks,
Mauricio and Jouni=20



On 5/9/12 10:54 AM, "Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking)"
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>We have been discussing rechartering on and off since January.  Below is
>an updated proposal that we would appreciate your review and feedback.
>The changes can be summarized as follows:
>
> *   Updating completed work items and casting new dates for work items
>not accomplished per the dates in existing charter
> *   Addition of network access identifier work item
> *   Addition of traffic accounting work item
> *   Addition of packet fragmentation work item
>
>Thanks,
>Mauricio and Jouni
>
>---------------------------------------------
>Description of Working Group
>
>The RADIUS Extensions Working Group will focus on extensions to the
>RADIUS protocol required to expand and enrich the standard attribute
>space, address cryptographic algorithm agility, use of new secure
>transports and clarify its usage and definition.
>
>In order to enable interoperation of heterogeneous RADIUS/Diameter
>deployments, all RADEXT WG work items MUST contain a Diameter
>compatibility section, outlining how interoperability with Diameter will
>be maintained.
>Furthermore, to ensure backward compatibility with existing RADIUS
>implementations, as well as compatibility between RADIUS and Diameter,
>the following restrictions are imposed on extensions considered by the
>RADEXT WG:
>
>- All documents produced MUST specify means of interoperation with legacy
>RADIUS and, if possible, be backward compatible with existing RADIUS
>RFCs, including RFCs 2865-2869, 3162, 3575, 3579, 3580, 4668-4673,4675,
>5080, 5090, 5176 and 6158. Transport profiles should, if possible, be
>compatible with RFC 3539.
>
>- All RADIUS work MUST be compatible with equivalent facilities in
>Diameter. Where possible, new attributes should be defined so that the
>same attribute can be used in both RADIUS and Diameter without
>translation. In other cases a translation considerations section should
>be included in the specification.
>
>Work Items
>The immediate goals of the RADEXT working group are to address the
>following issues:
>- RADIUS attribute space extension. The standard RADIUS attribute space
>is currently being depleted. This document will provide additional
>standard attribute space, while maintaining backward compatibility with
>existing attributes.
>
>- IEEE 802 attributes. New attributes have been proposed to support IEEE
>802 standards for wired and wireless LANs. This work item will support
>authentication, authorization and accounting attributes needed by IEEE
>802 groups including IEEE 802.1, IEEE 802.11 and IEEE 802.16.
>
>- New RADIUS transports. A reliable transport profile for RADIUS will be
>developed, as well as specifications for Secure transports, including
>TCP/TLS (RADSEC) and UDP/DTLS.
>
>- Update and clarification of Network Access Identifiers (RFC4282).This
>work item will correct and clarify issues present with RFC4282 in two
>phases.  In first phase, RFC4282bis will be issued to eliminate
>fundamental incompatibilities with RADIUS around character encoding and
>NAI modifications by proxies.  In second phase, a fresh review of NAI
>internationalization requirements and behavior will be undertaken with a
>clear goal of maintaining compatibility with RADIUS.
>
>- RADIUS Accounting Extensions for Traffic Statistics. This work item
>will specify RADIUS accounting attributes for differentiated accounting
>polices and traffic recording.
>
>- Fragmentation of RADIUS packets to support exchanges exceeding the
>existing 4KB limit imposed by RFC2865.
>
>
>Goals and Milestones
>Done Updates to RFC 2618-2621 RADIUS MIBs submitted for publication
>Done SIP RADIUS authentication draft submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Done RFC 2486bis submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Done RFC 3576 MIBs submitted as an Informational RFC
>Done RADIUS VLAN and Priority Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed
>Standard RFC (reduced in scope)
>Done RADIUS Implementation Issues and Fixes draft submitted as an
>Informational RFC
>Done RADIUS Filtering Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed Standard
>RFC (split out from VLAN & Priority draft)
>Done RFC 3576bis submitted as an Informational RFC (split out from Issues
>& Fixes draft)
>Done RADIUS Redirection Attributes draft submitted as a Proposed Standard
>RFC (split out from VLAN & Priority draft)
>Done RADIUS Design Guidelines submitted as a Best Current Practice RFC
>Done RADIUS Management Authorization I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard
>RFC
>Done Reliable Transport Profile for RADIUS I-D submitted as a Proposed
>Standard RFC
>Done Status-Server I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Done RADIUS Crypto-agility Requirements submitted as an Informational RFC
>Done RADSEC (RADIUS over TCP/TLS) draft submitted as an Experimental RFC
>May 2012 IPv6 Access I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>May 2012 Extended Attributes I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Jun 2012 Dynamic Discovery I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Jun 2012 IEEE 802 Attributes I-D submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Aug 2012 RADIUS over DTLS I-D submitted as an Experimental RFC
>Nov 2012    Traffic Statistics Attribute I-D submitted as a Proposed
>Standard RFC
>Nov 2012    RADIUS packet fragmentation submitted as an Experimental RFC
>Nov 2012 RFC 4282bis submitted as a Proposed Standard RFC
>Apr 2013 RADIUS support for NAI Internationalization I-D submitted as a
>Proposed Standard RFC
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Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking) wrote:
> Gentle reminder that we would appreciate hearing your thoughts, either
> positive or negative, on proposal below.

  It looks good.

  I would tentatively propose discussion of 5176 and proxying of CoA
packets.  The document is essentially silent on proxying.  The main open
problem is:

 - how do you proxy CoA packets across multiple hops?

  Alan DeKok.

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Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking) wrote:
> Gentle reminder that we would appreciate hearing your thoughts, either
> positive or negative, on proposal below.

  It looks good.

  I would tentatively propose discussion of 5176 and proxying of CoA
packets.  The document is essentially silent on proxying.  The main open
problem is:

 - how do you proxy CoA packets across multiple hops?

  Alan DeKok.
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Hi,

on that topic, I've been wondering what good dynamic discovery can do here.

The current draft only enables lookup of home servers for auth/acct
purposes.

It *could* be used the other way around though: when a user has logged
in somewhere, and the "somewhere" includes the Operator-Name attribute
(DNS-style), the home server could lookup the Operator-Name content in
DNS (NAPTR entry TBD) to find out where to send CoA packets for his user to.

That would need lots of new text in the dyndisc draft - but I'm at it
anyway, so if there's some support for the idea on the list, this could
go in...

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

On 22.05.12 21:46, Alan DeKok wrote:
> Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking) wrote:
>> Gentle reminder that we would appreciate hearing your thoughts, either
>> positive or negative, on proposal below.
>   It looks good.
>
>   I would tentatively propose discussion of 5176 and proxying of CoA
> packets.  The document is essentially silent on proxying.  The main open
> problem is:
>
>  - how do you proxy CoA packets across multiple hops?
>
>   Alan DeKok.
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Hi,

on that topic, I've been wondering what good dynamic discovery can do here.

The current draft only enables lookup of home servers for auth/acct
purposes.

It *could* be used the other way around though: when a user has logged
in somewhere, and the "somewhere" includes the Operator-Name attribute
(DNS-style), the home server could lookup the Operator-Name content in
DNS (NAPTR entry TBD) to find out where to send CoA packets for his user to.

That would need lots of new text in the dyndisc draft - but I'm at it
anyway, so if there's some support for the idea on the list, this could
go in...

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

On 22.05.12 21:46, Alan DeKok wrote:
> Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking) wrote:
>> Gentle reminder that we would appreciate hearing your thoughts, either
>> positive or negative, on proposal below.
>   It looks good.
>
>   I would tentatively propose discussion of 5176 and proxying of CoA
> packets.  The document is essentially silent on proxying.  The main open
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>
>  - how do you proxy CoA packets across multiple hops?
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I just want to confirm that the work to permit fragmentation of RADIUS messages would be within scope
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Stefan Winter <stefan.winter@restena.lu> wrote:

Hi,

on that topic, I've been wondering what good dynamic discovery can do here.

The current draft only enables lookup of home servers for auth/acct
purposes.

It *could* be used the other way around though: when a user has logged
in somewhere, and the "somewhere" includes the Operator-Name attribute
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DNS (NAPTR entry TBD) to find out where to send CoA packets for his user to.

That would need lots of new text in the dyndisc draft - but I'm at it
anyway, so if there's some support for the idea on the list, this could
go in...

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

On 22.05.12 21:46, Alan DeKok wrote:
> Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking) wrote:
>> Gentle reminder that we would appreciate hearing your thoughts, either
>> positive or negative, on proposal below.
> It looks good.
>
> I would tentatively propose discussion of 5176 and proxying of CoA
> packets. The document is essentially silent on proxying. The main open
> problem is:
>
> - how do you proxy CoA packets across multiple hops?
>
> Alan DeKok.
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap:break-word; font-family: sans-serif">Hi,<br /><br />on that topic, I've been wondering what good dynamic discovery can do here.<br /><br />The current draft only enables lookup of home servers for auth/acct<br />purposes.<br /><br />It *could* be used the other way around though: when a user has logged<br />in somewhere, and the "somewhere" includes the Operator-Name attribute<br />(DNS-style), the home server could lookup the Operator-Name content in<br />DNS (NAPTR entry TBD) to find out where to send CoA packets for his user to.<br /><br />That would need lots of new text in the dyndisc draft - but I'm at it<br />anyway, so if there's some support for the idea on the list, this could<br />go in...<br /><br />Greetings,<br /><br />Stefan Winter<br /><br />On 22.05.12 21:46, Alan DeKok wrote:<br />&gt; Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking) wrote:<br />&gt;&gt; Gentle reminder that we would appreciate hearing your thoughts, either<br
/>&gt;&gt; positive or negative, on proposal below.<br />&gt;   It looks good.<br />&gt;<br />&gt;   I would tentatively propose discussion of 5176 and proxying of CoA<br />&gt; packets.  The document is essentially silent on proxying.  The main open<br />&gt; problem is:<br />&gt;<br />&gt;  - how do you proxy CoA packets across multiple hops?<br />&gt;<br />&gt;   Alan DeKok.<br />&gt;<hr /><br />&gt; radext mailing list<br />&gt; radext@ietf.org<br />&gt; <a href="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext</a><br /><br /><hr /><br />radext mailing list<br />radext@ietf.org<br /><a href="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext</a><br /><br /></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>
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I just want to confirm that the work to permit fragmentation of RADIUS messages would be within scope
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Stefan Winter <stefan.winter@restena.lu> wrote:

Hi,

on that topic, I've been wondering what good dynamic discovery can do here.

The current draft only enables lookup of home servers for auth/acct
purposes.

It *could* be used the other way around though: when a user has logged
in somewhere, and the "somewhere" includes the Operator-Name attribute
(DNS-style), the home server could lookup the Operator-Name content in
DNS (NAPTR entry TBD) to find out where to send CoA packets for his user to.

That would need lots of new text in the dyndisc draft - but I'm at it
anyway, so if there's some support for the idea on the list, this could
go in...

Greetings,

Stefan Winter

On 22.05.12 21:46, Alan DeKok wrote:
> Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking) wrote:
>> Gentle reminder that we would appreciate hearing your thoughts, either
>> positive or negative, on proposal below.
> It looks good.
>
> I would tentatively propose discussion of 5176 and proxying of CoA
> packets. The document is essentially silent on proxying. The main open
> problem is:
>
> - how do you proxy CoA packets across multiple hops?
>
> Alan DeKok.
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap:break-word; font-family: sans-serif">Hi,<br /><br />on that topic, I've been wondering what good dynamic discovery can do here.<br /><br />The current draft only enables lookup of home servers for auth/acct<br />purposes.<br /><br />It *could* be used the other way around though: when a user has logged<br />in somewhere, and the "somewhere" includes the Operator-Name attribute<br />(DNS-style), the home server could lookup the Operator-Name content in<br />DNS (NAPTR entry TBD) to find out where to send CoA packets for his user to.<br /><br />That would need lots of new text in the dyndisc draft - but I'm at it<br />anyway, so if there's some support for the idea on the list, this could<br />go in...<br /><br />Greetings,<br /><br />Stefan Winter<br /><br />On 22.05.12 21:46, Alan DeKok wrote:<br />&gt; Sanchez, Mauricio (HP Networking) wrote:<br />&gt;&gt; Gentle reminder that we would appreciate hearing your thoughts, either<br
/>&gt;&gt; positive or negative, on proposal below.<br />&gt;   It looks good.<br />&gt;<br />&gt;   I would tentatively propose discussion of 5176 and proxying of CoA<br />&gt; packets.  The document is essentially silent on proxying.  The main open<br />&gt; problem is:<br />&gt;<br />&gt;  - how do you proxy CoA packets across multiple hops?<br />&gt;<br />&gt;   Alan DeKok.<br />&gt;<hr /><br />&gt; radext mailing list<br />&gt; radext@ietf.org<br />&gt; <a href="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext</a><br /><br /><hr /><br />radext mailing list<br />radext@ietf.org<br /><a href="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext</a><br /><br /></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>
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Sam Hartman wrote:
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  I believe it should be.

  This is covered in the topic of "address packets longer than 4K"

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Sam Hartman wrote:
> I just want to confirm that the work to permit fragmentation of RADIUS
> messages would be within scope

  I believe it should be.

  This is covered in the topic of "address packets longer than 4K"

  Alan DeKok.

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#117: typo

 typo in the introduction 'imnpractical'

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 Reporter:  dromasca@…   |      Owner:  draft-ietf-radext-radius-
     Type:  defect       |  extensions@…
 Priority:  trivial      |     Status:  new
Component:  radius-      |  Milestone:  milestone1
  extensions             |    Version:  1.0
 Severity:  In WG Last   |   Keywords:
  Call                   |
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#118: terminology refering BCP 26

 In Section 1.2:

 >    The following terms are used here with the meanings defined in BCP
 26:  "name space", "assigned value", "registration".

 >     The following terms are used here with the meanings defined in BCP
 26:  "Private Use", "Reserved", "Unassigned".

 Why the division in two separate groupings? BCP 26 is reference [RFC5226]
 - this should be marked

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#119: 'levels of compliance'?

 I am uneasy about defining 'levels of compliance' as in section 1.3:

 > An implementation is not compliant if it fails to satisfy one or more of
 the must or must not requirements for the protocols it implements. An
 implementation that satisfies all the MUST, MUST NOT, SHOULD, and SHOULD
 NOT requirements for its protocols is said to be "unconditionally
 compliant"; one that satisfies all the MUST and MUST NOT requirements but
 not all the SHOULD or SHOULD NOT requirements for its protocols is said to
 be "conditionally compliant".

 What purpose does this serve? Do we have this in other RADIUS / RADEXT
 documents, are these specific to RADIUS?

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Stefan Winter wrote:
> on that topic, I've been wondering what good dynamic discovery can do here.

  Something, I'm sure. :)

> The current draft only enables lookup of home servers for auth/acct
> purposes.
> 
> It *could* be used the other way around though: when a user has logged
> in somewhere, and the "somewhere" includes the Operator-Name attribute
> (DNS-style), the home server could lookup the Operator-Name content in
> DNS (NAPTR entry TBD) to find out where to send CoA packets for his user to.
> 
> That would need lots of new text in the dyndisc draft - but I'm at it
> anyway, so if there's some support for the idea on the list, this could
> go in...

  I'd prefer to publish the document now.  Get it done, published, and
deployed.

  We can then have a separate document which addresses CoA proxying.  It
can leverage 5580, and the dynamic discovery document.

  For anyone with spare time, see the git "master" branch on:

https://github.com/alandekok/freeradius-server/

  It has preliminary support for CoA proxying via Operator-Name.  This
should be sufficient for multi-hop CoA proxying.

  The remaining issue is how to get from the "local" RADIUS proxy to the
NAS.  Using Operator-Name won't work, as the "local" proxy is
authoritative for that realm.  Something else is needed, like a NAS
identifier.

  We could use NAS-IP-Address.  But that could have been changed or
deleted by anyone.  Maybe NAS-Identifier is a better choice.

  Alan DeKok.
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Stefan Winter wrote:
> on that topic, I've been wondering what good dynamic discovery can do here.

  Something, I'm sure. :)

> The current draft only enables lookup of home servers for auth/acct
> purposes.
> 
> It *could* be used the other way around though: when a user has logged
> in somewhere, and the "somewhere" includes the Operator-Name attribute
> (DNS-style), the home server could lookup the Operator-Name content in
> DNS (NAPTR entry TBD) to find out where to send CoA packets for his user to.
> 
> That would need lots of new text in the dyndisc draft - but I'm at it
> anyway, so if there's some support for the idea on the list, this could
> go in...

  I'd prefer to publish the document now.  Get it done, published, and
deployed.

  We can then have a separate document which addresses CoA proxying.  It
can leverage 5580, and the dynamic discovery document.

  For anyone with spare time, see the git "master" branch on:

https://github.com/alandekok/freeradius-server/

  It has preliminary support for CoA proxying via Operator-Name.  This
should be sufficient for multi-hop CoA proxying.

  The remaining issue is how to get from the "local" RADIUS proxy to the
NAS.  Using Operator-Name won't work, as the "local" proxy is
authoritative for that realm.  Something else is needed, like a NAS
identifier.

  We could use NAS-IP-Address.  But that could have been changed or
deleted by anyone.  Maybe NAS-Identifier is a better choice.

  Alan DeKok.

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#120: ambiguity in the definition of Extended Type

 In Section 2.1:

 >    The addition of the Extended-Type field decreases the maximum length
 for attributes of type "text" or "string" from 253 to 252 octets.  Where
 an Attribute needs to carry more than 252 octets of data, the "Long
 Extended Type" format should be used.

 I suggest: Where such an Attribute needs to carry more than 252 octets of
 data, the "Long Extended Type" format SHOULD be used.

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#121: inconsistent formulation

 In Section 2.2 when defining M (More) field:

 >     If a client or server receives an attribute fragment with the "More"
 field set (1), but for which no subsequent fragment can be found, then the
 fragmented attribute is deemed to be an "invalid attribute", and handled
 as per Section 2.7, below.

 To be consistent with previous text: s/is deemed to be/MUST be deemed to
 be/

 I actually would prefer 'considered' to 'deemed' in all places, but this
 is a minor language preference of a non-English speaker.

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  Call                   |
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#120: ambiguity in the definition of Extended Type


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Component:  radius-      |   Milestone:  milestone1
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  Call                   |
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#117: typo


Comment (by aland@…):

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#118: terminology refering BCP 26


Comment (by aland@…):

 I'll change the text to:

 The following terms are used here with the meanings defined in BCP 26
 [RFC5226]: "name space", "assigned value", "registration", "Private
 Use", "Reserved", "Unassigned", "IETF Review", and "Standards Action".

-- 
-------------------------+-------------------------------------------------
 Reporter:  dromasca@…   |       Owner:  draft-ietf-radext-radius-
     Type:  defect       |  extensions@…
 Priority:  trivial      |      Status:  new
Component:  radius-      |   Milestone:  milestone1
  extensions             |     Version:  1.0
 Severity:  In WG Last   |  Resolution:
  Call                   |
 Keywords:               |
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Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/ticket/118#comment:1>
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#122: IANA policy described in 2.3

 In section 2.3:

 > Up-to-date values of this field are specified by IANA.

 IANA does not write specifications, better say 'Up-to-date values of this
 field are being added according to the policies and rules described in
 Section 10'.

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#119: 'levels of compliance'?


Comment (by aland@…):

 This text is also in RFC 2865 Section 1.1.

 The text may not be strictly necessary.  I'm open to feedback.

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 Reporter:  dromasca@…   |       Owner:  draft-ietf-radext-radius-
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Component:  radius-      |   Milestone:  milestone1
  extensions             |     Version:  1.0
 Severity:  In WG Last   |  Resolution:
  Call                   |
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#123: nesting depth

 In Section 2.3.1:

 > However, nesting depths of more than 4 are NOT RECOMMENDED.

 Where does this come from, why 4 and not 3 or 5? I mean, if this is for
 clarity and/or to avoid complexity, but it's more like a rule of thumb,
 than maybe it needs not be capitalized.

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Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> I missed that. Are people really using it?

  That's a hard question to answer.

  In practice, no one seems to care about RADIUS compliance.

> If yes, I would indicate the origin, it suddenly strikes me that RADIUS has this concept which I do not remember having been adopted by other IETF standards. 

  I'm OK with deleting the text.

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Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> I missed that. Are people really using it?

  That's a hard question to answer.

  In practice, no one seems to care about RADIUS compliance.

> If yes, I would indicate the origin, it suddenly strikes me that RADIUS has this concept which I do not remember having been adopted by other IETF standards. 

  I'm OK with deleting the text.

  Alan DeKok.

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#123: nesting depth


Comment (by aland@…):

 The rule of thumb comes from a few areas.

 WiMAX / 3GPP has been using nested attributes.  They haven't seen a need
 for depths of more than 4, IIRC.  I can't think of many uses, either.

 Another is implementations.  (sadly)  Some implementations use 32-bit
 integers to refer to RADIUS attributes.  Encouraging unlimited nesting
 would require large changes to those implementations.

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#124: private enterprise numbers

 In section 2.4, when defining Vendor-Id:

 > The high-order octet is 0 and the low-order 3 octets are the SMI Network
 Management Private Enterprise Code of the Vendor in network byte order.

 There seems to be an assumption here that PENs are limited to 3 octets -
 this is not true. Actually discussions around http://www.ietf.org/id
 /draft-liang-iana-pen-00.txt question whether 32 bits is enough. I suggest
 to use all 4 octets.

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 Reporter:  dromasca@…   |      Owner:  draft-ietf-radext-radius-
     Type:  defect       |  extensions@…
 Priority:  blocker      |     Status:  new
Component:  radius-      |  Milestone:  milestone1
  extensions             |    Version:  1.0
 Severity:  In WG Last   |   Keywords:
  Call                   |
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#124: private enterprise numbers


Comment (by aland@…):

 I suggest changing this text to:

 ---
 The 4 octets are the SMI Network Management Private Enterprise Code of
 the Vendor in network byte order.

 Note that this is a change from [RFC2865], where the Vendor-Id is
 explicitly 3 octets.
 ---

 fixing RFC 2865 is another issue entirely.

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 Reporter:  dromasca@…   |       Owner:  draft-ietf-radext-radius-
     Type:  defect       |  extensions@…
 Priority:  blocker      |      Status:  new
Component:  radius-      |   Milestone:  milestone1
  extensions             |     Version:  1.0
 Severity:  In WG Last   |  Resolution:
  Call                   |
 Keywords:               |
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Ticket URL: <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/radext/trac/ticket/124#comment:1>
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Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> I am not in favor of encouraging unlimited nesting. I question whether using capitalization is appropriate when the limitation does not seem to result from restriction in the protocol. 

  I'm open to changes.

  The text came about as a result of discussion on the WG list.

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Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> I am not in favor of encouraging unlimited nesting. I question whether using capitalization is appropriate when the limitation does not seem to result from restriction in the protocol. 

  I'm open to changes.

  The text came about as a result of discussion on the WG list.

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#125: vendor-ID fields

 All vendor-ID fields in the Extended-Vendor-Specific attributes are
 defined 3 octets. I understand that this limitation is consistent with the
 way RFC 2865 defines Vendor-ID but this will create problems when the
 2**24 mark is hit. I see no reason not to use all the 4 octets (which are
 anyway defined)

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#126: 'traditional RADIUS'

 It's a terminology issue, but it would be good to define more exactly what
 is meant by 'traditional RADIUS' in section 5 - everything RADIUS before
 this document, 2865 and a number of specific extensions, or just 2865?

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#127: attribute allocation flag

 In Section 5.1:

 >  We RECOMMEND that RADIUS client and server implementations delete all
 references to these improperly defined attributes.  Failing that, we
 RECOMMEND that RADIUS server implementations have a per-client
 configurable flag which indicates which type of attributes are being sent
 from the client.  If the flag is set one way, the conflicting attributes
 can be interpreted as being improperly defined Vendor Specific Attributes.
 If the flag is set the other way, the attributes MUST be interpreted as
 being of the Extended Attributes format.  The default SHOULD be to
 interpret the attributes as being of the Extended Attributes format.

 I suggest a more clear language, i.e a name for the flag and for the two
 states rather than 'one way', 'the other way'. For example 'Client-
 Extended-Attributes' / 'Standard-Extended-Attributes' (default) / 'Non-
 Standard-Vendor-Specific-Attributes' /

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-------------------------+-------------------------------------------------
 Reporter:  dromasca@…   |      Owner:  draft-ietf-radext-radius-
     Type:  defect       |  extensions@…
 Priority:  minor        |     Status:  new
Component:  radius-      |  Milestone:  milestone1
  extensions             |    Version:  1.0
 Severity:  In WG Last   |   Keywords:
  Call                   |
-------------------------+-------------------------------------------------

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#128: editorial

 In Section 6.7:

 > RADIUS client implementations SHOULD support this specification as soon
 as possible.

 > RADIUS server implementations SHOULD support this specification as soon
 as possible.

 I would drop 'as soon as possible' in both sentences

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Hello,

I believe it too. Indeed, we are preparing an updated version of the 
fragmentation draft, that will be ready soon.

Regards,
Alejandro

El 23/05/12 15:09, Alan DeKok escribió:
> Sam Hartman wrote:
>> I just want to confirm that the work to permit fragmentation of RADIUS
>> messages would be within scope
>    I believe it should be.
>
>    This is covered in the topic of "address packets longer than 4K"
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>    Alan DeKok.
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#126: 'traditional RADIUS'


Comment (by aland@…):

 I'll change this to:

 ---
 There are a number of potential compatibility issues with traditional
 RADIUS, as defined in [RFC6158] and earlier.  This section describes
 them.
 ---

 i.e. RADIUS before TLS && TCP.

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#128: editorial


Comment (by aland@…):

 That leaves the recommendations toothless.  Of course people SHOULD
 implement the document.  The alternative would be to not publish it.

 Perhaps adding an explanation:

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 * RADIUS client implementations SHOULD support this specification
   as soon as possible, in order to permit the easy deployment
   of specifications using the changes defined herein.

 * RADIUS server implementations SHOULD support this specification
   as soon as possible, in order to permit the easy deployment
   of specifications using the changes defined herein.

 ---

-- 
-------------------------+-------------------------------------------------
 Reporter:  dromasca@…   |       Owner:  draft-ietf-radext-radius-
     Type:  defect       |  extensions@…
 Priority:  trivial      |      Status:  new
Component:  radius-      |   Milestone:  milestone1
  extensions             |     Version:  1.0
 Severity:  In WG Last   |  Resolution:
  Call                   |
 Keywords:               |
-------------------------+-------------------------------------------------

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        RFC 6613

        Title:      RADIUS over TCP 
        Author:     A. DeKok
        Status:     Experimental
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       May 2012
        Mailbox:    aland@freeradius.org
        Pages:      16
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The Remote Authentication Dial-In User Server (RADIUS) protocol has,
until now, required the User Datagram Protocol (UDP) as the underlying
transport layer.  This document defines RADIUS over the Transmission
Control Protocol (RADIUS/TCP), in order to address handling issues
related to RADIUS over Transport Layer Security (RADIUS/TLS).  It
permits TCP to be used as a transport protocol for RADIUS only when a
transport layer such as TLS or IPsec provides confidentiality and
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community.

This document is a product of the RADIUS EXTensions Working Group of the IETF.


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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 6613

        Title:      RADIUS over TCP 
        Author:     A. DeKok
        Status:     Experimental
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       May 2012
        Mailbox:    aland@freeradius.org
        Pages:      16
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        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-radext-tcp-transport-09.txt

        URL:        http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6613.txt

The Remote Authentication Dial-In User Server (RADIUS) protocol has,
until now, required the User Datagram Protocol (UDP) as the underlying
transport layer.  This document defines RADIUS over the Transmission
Control Protocol (RADIUS/TCP), in order to address handling issues
related to RADIUS over Transport Layer Security (RADIUS/TLS).  It
permits TCP to be used as a transport protocol for RADIUS only when a
transport layer such as TLS or IPsec provides confidentiality and
security.  This document defines an Experimental Protocol for the Internet
community.

This document is a product of the RADIUS EXTensions Working Group of the IETF.


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        RFC 6614

        Title:      Transport Layer Security (TLS) Encryption 
                    for RADIUS 
        Author:     S. Winter, M. McCauley,
                    S. Venaas, K. Wierenga
        Status:     Experimental
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       May 2012
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        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-radext-radsec-12.txt

        URL:        http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6614.txt

This document specifies a transport profile for RADIUS using
Transport Layer Security (TLS) over TCP as the transport protocol.
This enables dynamic trust relationships between RADIUS servers.  
[STANDARDS-TRACK]

This document is a product of the RADIUS EXTensions Working Group of the IETF.


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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 6614

        Title:      Transport Layer Security (TLS) Encryption 
                    for RADIUS 
        Author:     S. Winter, M. McCauley,
                    S. Venaas, K. Wierenga
        Status:     Experimental
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       May 2012
        Mailbox:    stefan.winter@restena.lu, 
                    mikem@open.com.au, 
                    stig@cisco.com,
                    klaas@cisco.com
        Pages:      22
        Characters: 48004
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-radext-radsec-12.txt

        URL:        http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6614.txt

This document specifies a transport profile for RADIUS using
Transport Layer Security (TLS) over TCP as the transport protocol.
This enables dynamic trust relationships between RADIUS servers.  
[STANDARDS-TRACK]

This document is a product of the RADIUS EXTensions Working Group of the IETF.


EXPERIMENTAL: This memo defines an Experimental Protocol for the
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