From nobody Thu Sep 1 01:01:20 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAF512D7F2 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 01:01:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.319 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.319 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.981, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=telecom-bretagne.eu Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eg0Clb4_0gsS for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 01:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zproxy220.enst-bretagne.fr (zproxy220.enst-bretagne.fr [192.108.117.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E5E12D7C6 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 01:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zproxy220.enst-bretagne.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB00030260 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:01:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zproxy220.enst-bretagne.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zproxy220.enst-bretagne.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id S9QPY_VbW3Pc for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:01:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zproxy220.enst-bretagne.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3BE3025F for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:01:10 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 zproxy220.enst-bretagne.fr 0F3BE3025F DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=telecom-bretagne.eu; s=CFDC2CFA-4654-11E5-AACD-7BCC68B6580D; t=1472716870; bh=MiS9lsJW3HDfN5hh890D07edKi88FANbm5CyF8kYoYc=; h=MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID:Subject:To:Content-Type; b=R9hMtUwsmOlWIBwHTsFoQNmPMtoFnj1YXDucNjax7fAiOZDMKvFF/vhYAR6XGmDXt tEmH6LyNenEpVLLH2C2x2rTemVg72tXy2GLsC64ZY1dRd6ZpPwX4W/G+wbhu99QXIi 4qxe+v1hDLHTpWqNX/tdxek6i5ZJ/dZk+jU3Ak/U= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zproxy220.enst-bretagne.fr Received: from zproxy220.enst-bretagne.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zproxy220.enst-bretagne.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id wOCSHFoiMcOi for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:01:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-lf0-f45.google.com (mail-lf0-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) by zproxy220.enst-bretagne.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3F8430260 for ; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:01:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-lf0-f45.google.com with SMTP id p41so35844126lfi.1 for ; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 01:01:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwO0coWiXzzw2lOFSuLrMzYSjk9Y7aKcAtEKRWYDwBA0bul7EmaIoxErsMFU33CzXchmXEnd1fgt9dZxaw== X-Received: by 10.25.17.213 with SMTP id 82mr3931674lfr.119.1472716868773; Thu, 01 Sep 2016 01:01:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.194.232 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 01:00:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9b78090fa7c3a958fac60b5759659220@xs4all.nl> References: <5ac3960df196482c01fc272d9164012a@xs4all.nl> <5795E3B9.4000802@ericsson.com> <50d0bcdd18ff300aaf1e183f6751c492@xs4all.nl> <5795F37C.1050303@ericsson.com> <7aff23749031ebe9e839e0aa9ac3c1db@xs4all.nl> <9b78090fa7c3a958fac60b5759659220@xs4all.nl> From: Laurent Toutain Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:00:28 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: To: consultancy@vanderstok.org, Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113fc050d172dd053b6d9df4 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] "Charter inclusion: Work in Routing proposals: AODV_RPL - > DAO_Projection" X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 08:01:19 -0000 --001a113fc050d172dd053b6d9df4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I support both work, P2P optimization is important and these two drafts propose a centralized and distributed approach. Laurent On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 8:49 AM, peter van der Stok wrote: > Dear all, > > Following the ROLL Meeting at IETF 96, we would like to know your > opinion about the drafts, presented during IETF95 and IETF96. This the > last set of three messages. The adoption of drafts as WG drafts will > be asked independently dependent on the status of the draft. > > Please, do answer to the three messages before 2 September 2016. > > > F: draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection-02 > Root initiated routing state in RPL > > =E2=80=A2 Is the draft relevant to the working group.? > =E2=80=A2 Do you foresee to contribute to the work described in the dr= aft ? > =E2=80=A2 Are you willing to review the draft ? > =E2=80=A2 Should the draft be rejected by the WG ? > > > G: draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl-00 > Asymmetric AODV-P2P-RPL in Low-Power and Lossy Networks (LLNs) > > =E2=80=A2 Is the draft relevant to the working group.? > =E2=80=A2 Do you foresee to contribute to the work described in the d= raft ? > =E2=80=A2 Are you willing to review the draft ? > =E2=80=A2 Should the draft be rejected by the WG ? > > > It would be nice to know the reasons why you agree or disagree with the > drafts > > > Thank you very much, > > > Peter and Ines > > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --=20 Laurent Toutain +--- VoIP (recommended) ---+----------- T=C3=A9l=C3=A9com Bretagne --------= ---+ | Tel: +33 2 22 06 8156 | Tel: + 33 2 99 12 7026 | Visit : | Mob: +33 6 800 75 900 | | | Fax: +33 2 22 06 8445 | Fax: +33 2 99 12 7030 | http://class.touta.in | Laurent@Touta.in | Laurent.Toutain@Telecom-Bretagne.eu | +--------------------------+----------------------------------------+ --001a113fc050d172dd053b6d9df4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi

I support both work, P2P optimiz= ation is important and these two drafts propose a centralized and distribut= ed approach.

Laurent

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 8:49 AM, peter van der Sto= k <stokcons@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Dear all,

Following the ROLL Meeting at IETF 96, we would like to know your
opinion about the drafts, presented during IETF95 and IETF96. This the
last set of three messages. The adoption of drafts as WG drafts will
be asked independently dependent on the status of the draft.

Please, do answer to the three messages before 2 September 2016.


=C2=A0F: draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection-02
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Root initiated routing state in RPL

=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Is the draft relevant to the working group.?
=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Do you foresee to contribute to the work described i= n the draft ?
=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Are you willing to review the draft ?
=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Should the draft be rejected by the WG ?


=C2=A0G: draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl-00
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Asymmetric AODV-P2P-RPL in Low-Power and Lossy N= etworks (LLNs)

=C2=A0=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Is the draft relevant to the working group.? =C2=A0=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Do you foresee to contribute to the work descr= ibed in the draft ?
=C2=A0=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Are you willing to review the draft ?
=C2=A0=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Should the draft be rejected by the WG ?


It would be nice to know the reasons why you agree or disagree with the dra= fts


Thank you very much,


=C2=A0Peter and Ines


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Regards, Diego 2016-09-01 5:00 GMT-03:00 Laurent Toutain < Laurent.Toutain@telecom-bretagne.eu>: > Hi > > I support both work, P2P optimization is important and these two drafts > propose a centralized and distributed approach. > > Laurent > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 8:49 AM, peter van der Stok > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Following the ROLL Meeting at IETF 96, we would like to know your >> opinion about the drafts, presented during IETF95 and IETF96. This the >> last set of three messages. The adoption of drafts as WG drafts will >> be asked independently dependent on the status of the draft. >> >> Please, do answer to the three messages before 2 September 2016. >> >> >> F: draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection-02 >> Root initiated routing state in RPL >> >> =E2=80=A2 Is the draft relevant to the working group.? >> =E2=80=A2 Do you foresee to contribute to the work described in the d= raft ? >> =E2=80=A2 Are you willing to review the draft ? >> =E2=80=A2 Should the draft be rejected by the WG ? >> >> >> G: draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl-00 >> Asymmetric AODV-P2P-RPL in Low-Power and Lossy Networks (LLNs) >> >> =E2=80=A2 Is the draft relevant to the working group.? >> =E2=80=A2 Do you foresee to contribute to the work described in the = draft ? >> =E2=80=A2 Are you willing to review the draft ? >> =E2=80=A2 Should the draft be rejected by the WG ? >> >> >> It would be nice to know the reasons why you agree or disagree with the >> drafts >> >> >> Thank you very much, >> >> >> Peter and Ines >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Roll mailing list >> Roll@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >> > > > > -- > Laurent Toutain > +--- VoIP (recommended) ---+----------- T=C3=A9l=C3=A9com Bretagne ------= -----+ > | Tel: +33 2 22 06 8156 | Tel: + 33 2 99 12 7026 | > Visit : > | Mob: +33 6 800 75 900 | | > | Fax: +33 2 22 06 8445 | Fax: +33 2 99 12 7030 | > http://class.touta.in > | Laurent@Touta.in | Laurent.Toutain@Telecom-Bretagne.eu | > +--------------------------+----------------------------------------+ > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > > --=20 DIEGO DUJOVNE Profesor Asociado Escuela de Inform=C3=A1tica y Telecomunicaciones Facultad de Ingenier=C3=ADa - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile www.ingenieria.udp.cl (56 2) 676 8125 --001a114742546ad8ff053b7293b6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also support both drafts.
Regards,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Diego

2016-09-01 5:00 GMT= -03:00 Laurent Toutain <Laurent.Toutain@telecom-bretagne= .eu>:
Hi

I support both work, P2P optimization is important an= d these two drafts propose a centralized and distributed approach.

<= /div>Laurent

=
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 8:49 AM, peter van der S= tok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Dear all,

Following the ROLL Meeting at IETF 96, we would like to know your
opinion about the drafts, presented during IETF95 and IETF96. This the
last set of three messages. The adoption of drafts as WG drafts will
be asked independently dependent on the status of the draft.

Please, do answer to the three messages before 2 September 2016.


=C2=A0F: draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection-02
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Root initiated routing state in RPL

=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Is the draft relevant to the working group.?
=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Do you foresee to contribute to the work described i= n the draft ?
=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Are you willing to review the draft ?
=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Should the draft be rejected by the WG ?


=C2=A0G: draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl-00
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Asymmetric AODV-P2P-RPL in Low-Power and Lossy N= etworks (LLNs)

=C2=A0=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Is the draft relevant to the working group.? =C2=A0=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Do you foresee to contribute to the work descr= ibed in the draft ?
=C2=A0=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Are you willing to review the draft ?
=C2=A0=E2=80=A2=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Should the draft be rejected by the WG ?


It would be nice to know the reasons why you agree or disagree with the dra= fts


Thank you very much,


=C2=A0Peter and Ines


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Facultad de Ingenier=C3=ADa - Universidad D= iego Portales - Chile
www.ingenieria.udp.cl
(56 2) 676 8125
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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 10:23:49 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks of the IETF. Title : When to use RFC 6553, 6554 and IPv6-in-IPv6 Authors : Maria Ines Robles Michael C. Richardson Pascal Thubert Filename : draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-08.txt Pages : 34 Date : 2016-09-13 Abstract: This document looks at different data flows through LLN (Low-Power and Lossy Networks) where RPL (IPv6 Routing Protocol for Low-Power and Lossy Networks) is used to establish routing. The document enumerates the cases where RFC 6553, RFC 6554 and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation is required. This analysis provides the basis on which to design efficient compression of these headers. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-08 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Sep 15 07:28:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7A112B866 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:28:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -16.029 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-16.029 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.508, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kXCpjJxKbgMn for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF74612B661 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 06:42:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1316; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1473946938; x=1475156538; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=kKxttCOeOTS7FIg0RyR4r+BpMyOxWtFhdmh57gw3zSs=; b=Ys2yXuMfQVFkYjfHNYT+PReE369TnR58/m0Tj5tu2kONhQyJKEwpODtP eANaDM6S0YGdjTztwkvQK0Xrmt/RMvBOXFgtUr6asgoiakofoozlxRDnY S7xNfpSuqfmFVFV4w25Z/dtVVJ2f6HsDhukZ8ApZbz7WwJpLqXHBXiIm9 A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0DEAQAVpNpX/5pdJa1cGwEBAQMBAQEJA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBgzoBAQEBAR5XfAeNLKsoggMkhXoCgVg4FAECAQEBAQEBAV4cC4RiAQEEOjQ?= =?us-ascii?q?bAgEINgULMhQHAQYDAgQTiEoOwXMBAQEBAQEBAQIBAQEBAQEBARoFhjGET4ocB?= =?us-ascii?q?ZQVhVMBhiSJNIFuhGKJFYxeg3oBHjaDMIE3cIYCfwEBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.30,339,1470700800"; d="scan'208";a="151524609" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 15 Sep 2016 13:42:17 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-004.cisco.com (xch-aln-004.cisco.com [173.36.7.14]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u8FDgH16017902 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:42:17 GMT Received: from xch-aln-002.cisco.com (173.36.7.12) by XCH-ALN-004.cisco.com (173.36.7.14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 08:42:17 -0500 Received: from xch-aln-002.cisco.com ([173.36.7.12]) by XCH-ALN-002.cisco.com ([173.36.7.12]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 08:42:17 -0500 From: "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" To: "roll@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Last Call: (6LoWPAN Paging Dispatch) to Proposed Standard Thread-Index: AQHSD1K1pAam2yHgykC2XKAi7A3TnKB6oAMA Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:42:16 +0000 Message-ID: References: <147394491796.12075.16257163811217559640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <147394491796.12075.16257163811217559640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.6.2.160219 x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.150.50.98] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] FW: Last Call: (6LoWPAN Paging Dispatch) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:28:44 -0000 FYI.. I'm sure many of you also participate in 6lo, so you may be familiar with this work. Alvaro. On 9/15/16, 9:08 AM, "iesg-secretary@ietf.org on behalf of The IESG" wrote: > >The IESG has received a request from the IPv6 over Networks of >Resource-constrained Nodes WG (6lo) to consider the following document: >- '6LoWPAN Paging Dispatch' > as Proposed Standard > >The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits >final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the >ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2016-09-29. Exceptionally, comments may be >sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the >beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. > >Abstract > > > This specification updates RFC 4944 to introduce a new context switch > mechanism for 6LoWPAN compression, expressed in terms of Pages and > signaled by a new Paging Dispatch. > > > > >The file can be obtained via >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6lo-paging-dispatch/ > >IESG discussion can be tracked via >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6lo-paging-dispatch/ballot/ > > >No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. > > > > From nobody Thu Sep 15 08:26:06 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F6512B835 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 08:26:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=googlemail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jPQEh0D4jhaz for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 08:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vk0-x22e.google.com (mail-vk0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C92012B652 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id b81so29258865vkd.0 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:27:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=glGT33jfZ+KfOSeWbMOOIFIgIJvdBWcRome6jcY5A5Q=; b=0vXmRHX/aRWBFIZeQ2KCPJL6kM8YcYSozacr+hhmY+94uoGjnA7KZIg8RgiAXMS4rF HZd5x3XZAK7oq1eRoe99UjSeln3FQPPz0kEqAXu2qiO8Ku24AZa68qs3YQGAyrQLe9wl oZlKoF5l0+e5CP/CpUJkMObnf9+8zpmxPSfiRgLtsqAf3hitOPg0K4anD+lPA4SFb8M8 vmleDBxws3y4+vGoxhN9pgwdoFtlaJxtm6qeWyuLFf3KkPAYsv4CDvlK3Q8l+OCx+lWK ecWkibWP+hwpbWsP4P1V8Zfx5rxyJpobFwN4QosmnlNioPZ/l2h2BQZzbL3+b1OYUGWe BP8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=glGT33jfZ+KfOSeWbMOOIFIgIJvdBWcRome6jcY5A5Q=; b=Hjmum37ee9KPeNn7SUxMtl2rzTFOgAtRPMXA7xxeslbp6vqN5ZsvCNgelqdR39ymy/ QabU+60ohAlAgEKrHMpsQaqErk/5TsuQzEopn8S/I8zZRhG84UA0L+R7gVb/fiVWwNtb hBaJgKnDEXSZK5AShp03E+eOldhNL8+W0bWBdXdF8RVYOTpP0Ep7KCXFSXbZrP9TC04g L1e1tZnhWwrjedGJ61P74NHBlTLC3wn0S5k4MnJ/w5XsqNR2iyXRoM/e7XKFYr2FIlmj tRInCIEvS7/UThIWqwqABSgW40uz0vSh2XrwXOJyFWKiONTcPeXHbjrAK0JRz815wIkL C1GA== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMFQ/Ht+SFEtPGwZ0UqnSJFppDQlIjlpNhreJNC6p1MEdxaXerzt6768yXZ7RJ+NOu2UzEvKnyzU4to2w== X-Received: by 10.31.76.69 with SMTP id z66mr3429189vka.63.1473949626646; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:27:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.2.40 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:27:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Ines Robles Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 17:27:06 +0300 Message-ID: To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114dc364e9c6c0053c8ca3ce Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-08.txt X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 15:26:00 -0000 --001a114dc364e9c6c0053c8ca3ce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, This new version is adapted to I-D.ietf-6man-rfc2460bis, "NOTE: While [RFC2460 ] required that all nodes must examine and process the Hop-by-Hop Options header, it is now expected that nodes along a packet's delivery path only examine and process the Hop-by- Hop Options header if explicitly configured to do so." Comments are welcome, Thank you, The authors. 2016-09-14 13:23 GMT+03:00 : > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks > of the IETF. > > Title : When to use RFC 6553, 6554 and IPv6-in-IPv6 > Authors : Maria Ines Robles > Michael C. Richardson > Pascal Thubert > Filename : draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-08.txt > Pages : 34 > Date : 2016-09-13 > > Abstract: > This document looks at different data flows through LLN (Low-Power > and Lossy Networks) where RPL (IPv6 Routing Protocol for Low-Power > and Lossy Networks) is used to establish routing. The document > enumerates the cases where RFC 6553, RFC 6554 and IPv6-in-IPv6 > encapsulation is required. This analysis provides the basis on which > to design efficient compression of these headers. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo/ > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-08 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-08 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --001a114dc364e9c6c0053c8ca3ce Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

This new version is adapted to=C2= =A0I-D.ietf-6man-rfc2460bis,
=
"NOTE: While [RFC2460] required that all nodes must examine = and
   process the Hop-by-Hop=
 Options header, it is now expected that nodes
   along a packet's delivery path only examine and process the Hop-by-
   Hop Options header if explicitly configured to do so."

Com= ments are welcome,

Thank you,

The authors.

20= 16-09-14 13:23 GMT+03:00 <internet-drafts@ietf.org>:=

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks = of the IETF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= When to use RFC 6553, 6554 and IPv6-in-IPv6
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Mari= a Ines Robles
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Michael C. Richardson
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pascal Thubert
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-roll-useofrplinfo-08.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 34
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2016-09-13

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document looks at different data flows through LLN (Low-P= ower
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and Lossy Networks) where RPL (IPv6 Routing Protocol for Low-P= ower
=C2=A0 =C2=A0and Lossy Networks) is used to establish routing.=C2=A0 The do= cument
=C2=A0 =C2=A0enumerates the cases where RFC 6553, RFC 6554 and IPv6-in-IPv6=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0encapsulation is required.=C2=A0 This analysis provides the ba= sis on which
=C2=A0 =C2=A0to design efficient compression of these headers.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/= draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo/

There's also a htmlized version available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ie= tf-roll-useofrplinfo-08

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-08


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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--001a114dc364e9c6c0053c8ca3ce-- From nobody Thu Sep 15 08:41:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029B812B56E for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 08:41:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -16.009 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-16.009 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.508, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V4djpmy44HTG for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 08:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9682E12B99B for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 07:43:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1968; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1473950625; x=1475160225; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=JLF/6QPrOquVAlArHCaiwCSbcTm2AJf1H3CXqstJWwI=; b=K5PXQvyc4XXWS1rbg15vgHLd777ZLkNtpbDbjkdpK6+K+EOm1b4VK43Z IXd81GQRp08JHnVSvBVXrRA1+r6U+Bd+eQc78d6q8vZeLu/9P2jdc0KA+ nmB6FGDSdOztPNciEWObbCJMPoly8wq5QIehZ4SxR0b67d8HkBEpbvsBq o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0B5AQDZstpX/5pdJa1cGgEBAQECAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QgBAQEBgzoBAQEBAR5XfAeNLKsoggMZC4V6AoFbOBQBAgEBAQEBAQFeJ4RhAQE?= =?us-ascii?q?BBAEBATc0FwQCAQgRBAEBHwUEBycLFAkIAgQTCIhCDsFpAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAQEBAQEBFwWGMYRPihwFlBWFUwGGJIktgXWEYokVjF6DegEeNoMwgTdwhgJ?= =?us-ascii?q?/AQEB?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.30,339,1470700800"; d="scan'208";a="149348954" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 15 Sep 2016 14:43:44 +0000 Received: from XCH-RCD-002.cisco.com (xch-rcd-002.cisco.com [173.37.102.12]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u8FEhidg020205 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:43:44 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com (173.37.102.11) by XCH-RCD-002.cisco.com (173.37.102.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1210.3; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 09:43:43 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) by XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com ([173.37.102.11]) with mapi id 15.00.1210.000; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 09:43:43 -0500 From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Thread-Topic: Last Call: (6LoWPAN Paging Dispatch) to Proposed Standard Thread-Index: AQHSD1Jqb+k6xbulp0SywxsNsJcYDaB64x4A//+8R6A= Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:43:19 +0000 Deferred-Delivery: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 14:42:45 +0000 Message-ID: <1771bb81aec34eb9ac948b365bddbde4@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> References: <147394491796.12075.16257163811217559640.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.228.216.47] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] Last Call: (6LoWPAN Paging Dispatch) to Proposed Standard X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 15:41:45 -0000 Yes, Alvaro! ROLL is the group that completed the 6LoRH work, which is the first user of= the paging dispatch. Progressing the paging dispatch removes a roadblock for the ROLL work. Take care, Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alvaro Retana (areta= na) Sent: jeudi 15 septembre 2016 15:42 To: roll@ietf.org Subject: [Roll] FW: Last Call: (6Lo= WPAN Paging Dispatch) to Proposed Standard FYI.. I'm sure many of you also participate in 6lo, so you may be familiar with t= his work. Alvaro. On 9/15/16, 9:08 AM, "iesg-secretary@ietf.org on behalf of The IESG" wrote: > >The IESG has received a request from the IPv6 over Networks of=20 >Resource-constrained Nodes WG (6lo) to consider the following document: >- '6LoWPAN Paging Dispatch' > as Proposed Standard > >The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits=20 >final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the=20 >ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2016-09-29. Exceptionally, comments may=20 >be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the=20 >beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. > >Abstract > > > This specification updates RFC 4944 to introduce a new context switch > mechanism for 6LoWPAN compression, expressed in terms of Pages and > signaled by a new Paging Dispatch. > > > > >The file can be obtained via >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6lo-paging-dispatch/ > >IESG discussion can be tracked via >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-6lo-paging-dispatch/ballot/ > > >No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. > > > > _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list Roll@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll From nobody Fri Sep 16 05:35:19 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1197712B03F; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 05:35:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.809 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.809 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.508, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cs.tcd.ie Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id inaLh22bsXAZ; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 05:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [134.226.56.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3131D12B0F2; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 05:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9885BE79; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:35:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from mercury.scss.tcd.ie ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercury.scss.tcd.ie [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NO8USwYI8PJa; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:35:07 +0100 (IST) Received: from [134.226.36.93] (bilbo.dsg.cs.tcd.ie [134.226.36.93]) by mercury.scss.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A4A93BE74; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:35:06 +0100 (IST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cs.tcd.ie; s=mail; t=1474029307; bh=vcsQ88weGjz8D7ePxqvuKn9XWAkt3phsoIwp6hkxLzY=; h=Subject:To:References:Cc:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=4TcTvjNGhjokzCpVS/JpMezLA7JS6+0ELeT9C5rsCKASpbKnZv9UXFPFhTOjm10cX DgmxfV1wx9d3Jel5YRRHIC6QLRFO5ayZIz7kBIUOwaLpFtonqW0ltLIfjCbF1QQWxB dWHleAcJSF8MGGFd/vvre9qFutBu7Oj25KqMBbqI= To: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" , The IESG References: <20160503191946.8201.87854.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Stephen Farrell Openpgp: id=D66EA7906F0B897FB2E97D582F3C8736805F8DA2; url= Message-ID: <24314264-bab0-0228-010a-dca00d574ac8@cs.tcd.ie> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:35:06 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms030605060404070400080906" Archived-At: Cc: "roll-chairs@ietf.org" , "roll@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami@ietf.org" , "mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca" Subject: Re: [Roll] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami-13: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 12:35:12 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030605060404070400080906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nancy, Most of those changes look good. Given the elapsed time it may be best to shoot out a new revision and then I can go back and check if there's more to be done. That sound ok? Cheers, S. On 10/09/16 03:59, Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) wrote: > Hi Stephen, >=20 > Apologies for taking way too long to get to this; I had met with the > authors in hopes to try to get all responses but given that too long ha= s > passed, I=E2=80=99m now putting what I have to the full audience: >=20 > On 5/3/16, 12:19 PM, "Stephen Farrell" wrot= e: >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= >> DISCUSS: >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= >> >> >> >> I have two things I'd like to chat about, given that these >> applicability documents are where the roll WG has iirc >> said it'd address security and privacy issues with RPL: >> >> (1) 7.1.7: Don't you need to turn that "may not need" >> around and say that AMI deployments of RPL REQUIRE >> implementation (and maybe use) of link layer and higher >> layer security features? (You almost say that in 9.3 I >> think, so it'd maybe be good to be crystal clear. > [NCW] You are correct, the intent is to ensure that link and > higher layer security be used. We can modify the sentence to read: > =E2=80=9CAs a result, while AMI deployments may not need to implement R= PL's > security mechanisms they > MUST include at minimum, link layer security such as that defined by= > IEEE 1901.2 and IEEE 802.15.4.=E2=80=9D >=20 >=20 >> >> (2) Why are there no privacy considerations? I think this >> document needs that. For example, an AMI mesh based purely >> on link layer security could be a total privacy nightmare. >> And part of that is down to RPL - if I can cause lots of >> folks' traffic to be sent to me, that is RPL's issue. >> That I can then see the application layer content is not >> RPL's fault, but is still relevant. I think this section >> is important to include because the authors here are >> presumably the ones who know the application layer >> information. And the sensitive information might not only >> be readings, it could include packet size, if larger >> packets are caused by activity such as turning on heating, >> then larger packets indicate presence and smaller ones >> absence, depending on weather. I am also concerned that >> there may be privacy issues arising from the various >> identifiers in use here. Did the WG consider these issues >> and their potential impact on how it is or is not safe to >> use RPL? (While the analysis might sound complex, I'd bet >> that not much new text would be needed, but who knows >> until the analysis has been done.) > [NCW] As I was not an active participant of the group then, I can=E2=80= =99t answer > to whether this was discussed in the group or not. However, as this > draft is more focused on RPL=E2=80=99s applicability in the AMI, I thin= k we > can add a short section to perhaps address privacy in the context of > the draft=E2=80=99s focus. > I can add a privacy consideration section as a subsection (or do you > prefer it be its own section?) of Security Considerations. > Here=E2=80=99s some proposed text: > X.X Privacy Considerations > Privacy of information flowing through smart grid networks are also sub= ject > to consideration and is evolving a set of recommendations and requireme= nts. > For example, the U.S. Department of Energy issued a document [DOEVCC] > defining=20 > a process and set of recommendations to address privacy issues. As thi= s > document > describes the applicability of RPL, the privacy considerations as defin= ed > in > [RFC6550] and [I-D.6lo-privacy-considerations] apply to this document a= nd > to AMI deployments. >=20 >=20 > =E2=80=94 References ---- > [DOEVCC] U.S. Department of Energy, =E2=80=9CVoluntary Code of Conduct = (VCC) Final > Conepts and Principles=E2=80=9D, > =20 > http://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2015/01/f19/VCC%20Concepts%20and%20P= rinc > iples%202015_01_08%20FINAL.pdf, Jan. 2015 >=20 >=20 > [I-D.6lo-privacy-considerations] Thaler D., =E2=80=9CPrivacy Considera= tions for > IPv6 over Networks of Resource-Constrained Nodes=E2=80=9D, July 2016. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= >> COMMENT: >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= >> >> >> - 1.3: what's the 3rd bullet mean? It's worded very >> ambiguously. With s/(vs. non-storing)// it'd be clear. > [NCW] Done=E2=80=A6.updated in the next rev >=20 >> >> - section 3: "a potentially significant portion of which >> is taken up by protocol and encryption overhead" seems >> overstated to me - are there numbers to back that up? > [NCW] The challenge is that providing numbers can raise more questions = as > to the validity of the actual numbers. > If you need a deeper response, I will need to rely on Daniel to provide= > more rationale on the inclusion of this content. >=20 >=20 >=20 >> >> - 5.1, last sentence: why is it important to note that? >> explaining would be good > [NCW] The comment was to state that while there was a new amendment, it= > did not affect the security mechanisms or properties. > We can remove the sentence if you believe it adds no value. >=20 >> >> - 7.2.3: I don't get what you're telling me here that >> assists in security or interop? > [NCW with DP] This was a result of the working group=E2=80=99s comments= requesting > that we provide information about how and what security features were u= sed > from the link layer. >=20 >=20 >> >> - section 9: please provide references to back up the >> assertion that "many available security mechanisms are not >> practical for use in such networks" for some relevant >> security mechanisms. The problem is that such assertions >> are used to justify doing nothing at all so they ought not >> be blithely made. > [NCW] It may be simpler to remove the sentence. Alternately, we can > modify the sentence to: > =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6..for example, the use of asymmetric cryptography suc= h as a 2048bit RSA > for such constrained environments are not practical.=E2=80=9D >=20 >=20 >> - 9.1: "are unique per device" etc is the only sensible >> thing and would be nice if always true, but that is often >> not the case - why state what's known to not be true? Or >> are you trying to say something else? > [NCW] Actually, the credentials are unique per device, so perhaps notin= g > that is redundant. > The uniqueness is a requirements regardless, but perhaps you challenge = who > knows the credential=E2=80=A6.which can be implementation specific. > Given the confusion, perhaps its better if we just remove the sentence.= >=20 >> >> >> - 9.2: "it is replaced" - again that's not true, only >> devices known to be compromised would be replaced, which >> is by no means all compromised devices > [NCW] True that we may not know all compromised devices; we can update = the > sentence to read: > =E2=80=9CIf during the system operation a device fails or is known to b= e > compromised, it > is replaced with a new device.:=E2=80=9D >=20 >> >> - 9.3: "already existing" - you really should have a >> reference there. > [NCW] We would have to reference product specific links (i.e. NDES, LDA= P) > which we typically don=E2=80=99t do in IETF documents? 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X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: consultancy@vanderstok.org, Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:27:50 -0000 Dear all, Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the mailing list. The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past months. Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer in my opinion. Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when they concern your work. End of call: Saturday October 1. Many thanks, Peter + Ines ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Charter for ROLL Working Group Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices with limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are interconnected by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low Power WiFi, wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. LLNs are transitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the problem of non-interoperable networks interconnected by protocol translation gateways and proxies. RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides additional terminology for constrained devices. RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from several application perspectives. The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: connected home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a Framework that takes into consideration various aspects including high reliability in the presence of time varying loss characteristics and connectivity while permitting low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressure in networks potentially comprising a very large number (several thousands) of nodes. The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to maintain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working group, including RPL and MPL. ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that focus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) and lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and MANET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. The Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed. Work Items are: - Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. The WGLC on this work will be shared with 6lo. - Compression of RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN adaptation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG). - Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of required routing states - Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. (coordinated with PiM wg) - Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM wg) - Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. (coordinated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER) - Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other protocols defined by the working group. - Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for example AODV-RPL Milestones DATE Milestone September 2018 Recharter WG or close July 2018 Initial submission of a solution for draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG November 2017 Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl to IESG November 2017 Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modifications to IESG July 2017 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-bier-ccast to IESG July 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-forw-select to IESG March 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-yang to IESG March 2017 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection to IESG November 2016 Initial Submission of the draft about when to use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG. November 2016 IESG Evaluation of draft-roll-routing-dispatch. -- Peter van der Stok vanderstok consultancy mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org www: www.vanderstok.org tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 From nobody Fri Sep 16 06:45:23 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE1C12B128 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:45:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=googlemail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0PRqoaApIHVk for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vk0-x234.google.com (mail-vk0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E14C12B2AE for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:37:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk0-x234.google.com with SMTP id g9so26537321vkg.1 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:37:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=M2uzd/dezSXmRa1Hxpi4TA43hY+l9PrWQatSz9TUVpM=; b=eRZd9F5KEfVjy75pQFvio81LuVp0s8b0WeNc2J5DjosoMyXlxsebBAfqWjQSiGN5LD v49nItv8dOFvGYCPffKjIPaZ5Ln8FjKn+03HAwyzQncIrxutAkAryWlog6nSIHY11X3F DZhV6fNZq5nctRw/2RPHMcjzJNQxN4MbsZfRh9mp0PzoW4d/QWy8qB0qxuvIQOHxxxx+ 21j8+k1q628tDnpDuc7QMWlXBZIc8tlyJ4B/l0Q3DugOgBfcFmm4JSNjAAkXPsjskSY/ eFoYUAOwjJDg/9NZWbE+IrQAHpCgAGU6B8a4zP3UqCJC5tfJXc0ZDW3lnLdknYWCGo7B BFww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=M2uzd/dezSXmRa1Hxpi4TA43hY+l9PrWQatSz9TUVpM=; b=fKdZthJZ5JRRwcI3f35Pgdi121Ad4i8SWxLaiQKrgVDHNZL0KpWh77Jv+sMwfLzX3m Aht806Xvg62cin21PpW9LhEnAndqT0l4ZBiB77vCNEBC8CZQipXwTvMhqbNE/Hc+M8/6 3ohPv57dS1Vbb72bPu4F0kf8bq4CvaiYy1EJY/jlN6PkDUYHxDutwAUYFwhCajSmEuc3 TlopN/9LlC20zyNI/BVXPkFW4cmQxpdm/pzKCF+8jpzvOulZb8rWY6YtvAXNz6EsYFa6 CVK6LaVg7wAy8/hQX2He3h0vILDY51LRm54el0OZvV7baMuZo7YHSFnH3gQq8O6FijPf 32gg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPKRzJsQ6l5WbXUoDoelg/S4REHHNJkt7cHWXiO38cI65U6D4z/lHCzZQawlt4YS/ewGPEtBM5gWOcNmg== X-Received: by 10.31.188.210 with SMTP id m201mr3558284vkf.121.1474033075371; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:37:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.2.40 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:37:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ines Robles Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:37:55 +0300 Message-ID: To: roll Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1142f1cad84241053ca01198 Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] Request for slot at IETF 97 X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:45:22 -0000 --001a1142f1cad84241053ca01198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, If you=E2=80=99re going to request a slot for discussion at IETF 97, please= respond by this Thursday 29th September at 9:00 am UTC time with this information: -Draft to present -Name of the presenter -Suggested duration - Are you going to present remotely? 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Thread-Index: AQHSEB4ktJnDPx/U2E66J28DPoFPdaB8NC3A Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:56:40 +0000 Deferred-Delivery: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:55:55 +0000 Message-ID: <3a2634a9776e421cb337e73c39e63753@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> References: <86972780d65c4f893678ee6963d89b7a@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <86972780d65c4f893678ee6963d89b7a@xs4all.nl> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.61.98.183] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] last call for roll charter text. X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:57:10 -0000 Dear chairs: I support this charter; Pascal -----Original Message----- From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of peter van der Stok Sent: vendredi 16 septembre 2016 15:24 To: Roll ; emarobl ; Alvaro = Retana (aretana) Subject: [Roll] last call for roll charter text. Dear all, Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the maili= ng list. The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past mon= ths. Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer in = my opinion. Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when the= y concern your work. End of call: Saturday October 1. Many thanks, Peter + Ines ___________________________________________________________________________= ___________________________________________________________________________= ______________________ Charter for ROLL Working Group Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices w= ith limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are interconnecte= d by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low Power WiFi, = wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. LLNs are tran= sitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the problem of non-in= teroperable networks interconnected by protocol translation gateways and pr= oxies. RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides addit= ional terminology for constrained devices. RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from seve= ral application perspectives. The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas:=20 connected home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a Fra= mework that takes into consideration various aspects including high reliabi= lity in the presence of time varying loss characteristics and connectivity = while permitting low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressu= re in networks potentially comprising a very large number (several thousand= s) of nodes. The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to maint= ain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working group, i= ncluding RPL and MPL. ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that fo= cus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) and lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and MANET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from thei= r results. The Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed. Work Items are: - Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation.=20 The WGLC on this work will be shared with 6lo. - Compression of RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN adaptatio= n layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG). - Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of requ= ired routing states - Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication.=20 (coordinated with PiM wg) - Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM w= g) - Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding.=20 (coordinated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER) - Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other prot= ocols defined by the working group. - Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for exampl= e AODV-RPL Milestones DATE Milestone September 2018 Recharter WG or close July 2018 Initial submission of a solution for=20 draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG November 2017 Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl to IESG November 2017 Initial submission of=20 draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modifications to IESG July 2017 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-bier-ccast to IESG July 2017 Initial submission of=20 draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-forw-select to IESG March 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-yang to IESG March 2017 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection to=20 IESG November 2016 Initial Submission of the draft about when to=20 use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation=20 Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG. November 2016 IESG Evaluation of draft-roll-routing-dispatch. --=20 Peter van der Stok vanderstok consultancy mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org www: www.vanderstok.org tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list Roll@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll From nobody Fri Sep 16 09:19:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietf.org Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBF612B2EE; Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:19:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.33.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147404276850.25276.18275031384814284779.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 09:19:28 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: roll@ietf.org Subject: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-routing-dispatch-01.txt X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 16:19:28 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks of the IETF. Title : 6LoWPAN Routing Header Authors : Pascal Thubert Carsten Bormann Laurent Toutain Robert Cragie Filename : draft-ietf-roll-routing-dispatch-01.txt Pages : 34 Date : 2016-09-16 Abstract: This specification introduces a new 6LoWPAN dispatch type for use in 6LoWPAN Route-Over topologies, that initially covers the needs of RPL (RFC6550) data packets compression. Using this dispatch type, this specification defines a method to compress RPL Option (RFC6553) information and Routing Header type 3 (RFC6554), an efficient IP-in- IP technique and is extensible for more applications. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-routing-dispatch/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-routing-dispatch-01 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-roll-routing-dispatch-01 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sat Sep 17 20:18:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88E012B0C8 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 20:18:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.637 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.637 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.316, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xVemZaSgJkEa for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 20:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29B5B12B008 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 20:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CWJ42724; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 03:18:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML411-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.70) by lhreml702-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.99) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 04:18:30 +0100 Received: from NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com ([fe80::a54a:89d2:c471:ff]) by nkgeml411-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.70]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 11:18:27 +0800 From: Mingui Zhang To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks , "consultancy@vanderstok.org" , emarobl , "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" Thread-Topic: [Roll] last call for roll charter text. Thread-Index: AQHSEB4n3z1y1qbrEEGseB3La/QQ+aB7rrYAgALlbTA= Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 03:18:26 +0000 Message-ID: <4552F0907735844E9204A62BBDD325E7A63207C3@NKGEML515-MBX.china.huawei.com> References: <86972780d65c4f893678ee6963d89b7a@xs4all.nl> <3a2634a9776e421cb337e73c39e63753@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <3a2634a9776e421cb337e73c39e63753@XCH-RCD-001.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.146.93] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020204.57DE0788.000A, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: f171ebcf24fe6034990bb7bf87132f05 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] last call for roll charter text. X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 03:18:38 -0000 Hi,=20 Yes, the text is clear and the milestones dates look fine.=20 I support this charter as well. Thanks Mingui > -----Original Message----- > From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert (pt= hubert) > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:57 PM > To: consultancy@vanderstok.org; Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks= ; > emarobl; Alvaro Retana (aretana) > Subject: Re: [Roll] last call for roll charter text. >=20 > Dear chairs: >=20 > I support this charter; >=20 > Pascal >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of peter van der Stok > Sent: vendredi 16 septembre 2016 15:24 > To: Roll ; emarobl ; Alvar= o > Retana (aretana) > Subject: [Roll] last call for roll charter text. >=20 > Dear all, >=20 > Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the mai= ling list. > The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past m= onths. >=20 > Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer i= n my > opinion. >=20 > Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when t= hey > concern your work. >=20 > End of call: Saturday October 1. >=20 > Many thanks, >=20 > Peter + Ines >=20 > _____________________________________________________________ > _____________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ >=20 >=20 > Charter for ROLL Working Group >=20 > Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices > with limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are interconne= cted > by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low Power WiFi, = wired or > other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. LLNs are transitioni= ng to > an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the problem of non-interoperable > networks interconnected by protocol translation gateways and proxies. >=20 > RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides add= itional > terminology for constrained devices. >=20 > RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from se= veral > application perspectives. > The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: > connected home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a > Framework that takes into consideration various aspects including high re= liability > in the presence of time varying loss characteristics and connectivity whi= le > permitting low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressure i= n > networks potentially comprising a very large number (several thousands) o= f > nodes. >=20 > The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to mai= ntain, > improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working group, incl= uding > RPL and MPL. >=20 > ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that = focus on > constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo > (Int) and lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER > (rtg) and MANET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from th= eir > results. The Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed. >=20 > Work Items are: >=20 > - Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. > The WGLC on this work will be shared with 6lo. >=20 > - Compression of RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN adaptat= ion > layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG). >=20 > - Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of re= quired > routing states >=20 > - Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. > (coordinated with PiM wg) >=20 > - Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM > wg) >=20 > - Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. > (coordinated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER) >=20 > - Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other > protocols defined by the working group. >=20 > - Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for exam= ple > AODV-RPL >=20 >=20 > Milestones >=20 > DATE Milestone > September 2018 Recharter WG or close > July 2018 Initial submission of a solution for > draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG > November 2017 Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl to IESG > November 2017 Initial submission of > draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modifications to IESG > July 2017 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-bier-ccast to IESG > July 2017 Initial submission of > draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-forw-select to IESG > March 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-yang to IESG > March 2017 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection to > IESG > November 2016 Initial Submission of the draft about when to > use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation Draft-ietf-roll-useo= frplinfo > to the IESG. > November 2016 IESG Evaluation of draft-roll-routing-dispatch. >=20 > -- > Peter van der Stok > vanderstok consultancy > mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org > www: www.vanderstok.org > tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll From nobody Sat Sep 17 20:58:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A1A712B10D for ; 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Sat, 17 Sep 2016 20:57:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.219.133 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 20:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.219.133 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Sep 2016 20:57:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86972780d65c4f893678ee6963d89b7a@xs4all.nl> References: <86972780d65c4f893678ee6963d89b7a@xs4all.nl> From: Rahul Jadhav Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 05:57:58 +0200 Message-ID: To: consultancy@vanderstok.org, roll@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d18a0864d1e053cc03390 Archived-At: Cc: emarobl Subject: Re: [Roll] last call for roll charter text. X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 03:58:02 -0000 --001a113d18a0864d1e053cc03390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear Chairs, The work items are indeed clearer. I support the charter. Thanks, Rahul On 16 Sep 2016 6:57 p.m., "peter van der Stok" wrote: > Dear all, > > Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the > mailing list. > The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past > months. > > Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer in > my opinion. > > Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when > they concern your work. > > End of call: Saturday October 1. > > Many thanks, > > Peter + Ines > > ____________________________________________________________ > ____________________________________________________________ > ____________________________________________________ > > > Charter for ROLL Working Group > > Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices > with limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are > interconnected by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low > Power WiFi, wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. > LLNs are transitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the > problem of non-interoperable networks interconnected by protocol > translation gateways and proxies. > > RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides > additional terminology for constrained devices. > > RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from > several application perspectives. > The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: > connected home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a > Framework that takes into consideration various aspects including high > reliability in the presence of time varying loss characteristics and > connectivity while permitting low-power operation with very modest memory > and CPU pressure in networks potentially comprising a very large number > (several thousands) of nodes. > > The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to > maintain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working > group, including RPL and MPL. > > ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that > focus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) > and lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and > MANET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. > The Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed. > > Work Items are: > > - Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. The > WGLC on this work will be shared with 6lo. > > - Compression of RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN > adaptation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG). > > - Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of > required routing states > > - Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. > (coordinated with PiM wg) > > - Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM > wg) > > - Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. > (coordinated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER) > > - Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other > protocols defined by the working group. > > - Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for > example AODV-RPL > > > Milestones > > DATE Milestone > September 2018 Recharter WG or close > July 2018 Initial submission of a solution for > draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG > November 2017 Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl to IESG > November 2017 Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modifications > to IESG > July 2017 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-bier-ccast to IESG > July 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-forw-select > to IESG > March 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-yang to > IESG > March 2017 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection > to IESG > November 2016 Initial Submission of the draft about when to > use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation > Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG. > November 2016 IESG Evaluation of draft-roll-routing-dispatch. > > -- > Peter van der Stok > vanderstok consultancy > mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org > www: www.vanderstok.org > tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --001a113d18a0864d1e053cc03390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Chairs,

The work items are indeed clearer. I support the charter.

Thanks,
Rahul


On 16 Sep 2016 6:= 57 p.m., "peter van der Stok" <stokcons@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Dear all,

Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the maili= ng list.
The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past mon= ths.

Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer in = my opinion.

Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when the= y concern your work.

End of call: Saturday October 1.

Many thanks,

Peter + Ines

_________________________________________________________________= _________________________________________________________________= __________________________________________


Charter for ROLL Working Group

Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices w= ith limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are interconnecte= d by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low Power WiFi, = wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. LLNs are tran= sitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the problem of non-in= teroperable networks interconnected by protocol translation gateways and pr= oxies.

RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides addit= ional terminology for constrained devices.

RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from seve= ral application perspectives.
The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: connected= home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a Framework th= at takes into consideration various aspects including high reliability in t= he presence of time varying loss characteristics and connectivity while per= mitting low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressure in net= works potentially comprising a very large number (several thousands) of nod= es.

The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to maint= ain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working group, i= ncluding RPL and MPL.

ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that fo= cus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) and= lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and MA= NET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. T= he Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed.

Work Items are:

- Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. The W= GLC on this work will be shared with 6lo.

- Compression of=C2=A0 RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN adap= tation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG).

- Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of requ= ired routing states

- Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. (coo= rdinated with PiM wg)

- Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM w= g)

- Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. (coordin= ated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER)

- Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other prot= ocols defined by the working group.

- Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for exampl= e AODV-RPL


Milestones

DATE=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Milestone
September 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Recharter WG or clo= se
July 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of a solution for dr= aft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl = to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-mod= ifications to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-b= ier-ccast to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-vand= erstok-roll-mpl-forw-select to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-= mpl-yang to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao= -projection to IESG
November 2016=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial Submis= sion of the draft about when to use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 enca= psulation Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG.
November 2016=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 IESG Evaluation of d= raft-roll-routing-dispatch.

--
Peter van der Stok
vanderstok consultancy
mailto: con= sultancy@vanderstok.org
www: www.vanderstok.org
tel NL: +31(0)492474673=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0F: +33(0)966015248

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X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2016 04:15:42 -0000 --001a114788088f7d81053cc07285 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I support the charter. Regards, Diego 2016-09-18 0:57 GMT-03:00 Rahul Jadhav : > Dear Chairs, > > The work items are indeed clearer. I support the charter. > > Thanks, > Rahul > > On 16 Sep 2016 6:57 p.m., "peter van der Stok" wrote= : > >> Dear all, >> >> Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the >> mailing list. >> The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past >> months. >> >> Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer >> in my opinion. >> >> Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when >> they concern your work. >> >> End of call: Saturday October 1. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Peter + Ines >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> ____________________________________________________________ >> ____________________________________________________ >> >> >> Charter for ROLL Working Group >> >> Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded device= s >> with limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are >> interconnected by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, = Low >> Power WiFi, wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links= . >> LLNs are transitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the >> problem of non-interoperable networks interconnected by protocol >> translation gateways and proxies. >> >> RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides >> additional terminology for constrained devices. >> >> RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from >> several application perspectives. >> The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: >> connected home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a >> Framework that takes into consideration various aspects including high >> reliability in the presence of time varying loss characteristics and >> connectivity while permitting low-power operation with very modest memor= y >> and CPU pressure in networks potentially comprising a very large number >> (several thousands) of nodes. >> >> The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to >> maintain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working >> group, including RPL and MPL. >> >> ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that >> focus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int= ) >> and lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) = and >> MANET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their resul= ts. >> The Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed. >> >> Work Items are: >> >> - Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. Th= e >> WGLC on this work will be shared with 6lo. >> >> - Compression of RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN >> adaptation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG). >> >> - Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of >> required routing states >> >> - Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. >> (coordinated with PiM wg) >> >> - Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and Pi= M >> wg) >> >> - Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. >> (coordinated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER) >> >> - Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other >> protocols defined by the working group. >> >> - Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for >> example AODV-RPL >> >> >> Milestones >> >> DATE Milestone >> September 2018 Recharter WG or close >> July 2018 Initial submission of a solution for >> draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG >> November 2017 Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl to IESG >> November 2017 Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modificati= ons >> to IESG >> July 2017 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-bier-ccast to IESG >> July 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-forw-s= elect >> to IESG >> March 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-yang to >> IESG >> March 2017 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection >> to IESG >> November 2016 Initial Submission of the draft about when to >> use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation >> Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG. >> November 2016 IESG Evaluation of draft-roll-routing-dispatch. >> >> -- >> Peter van der Stok >> vanderstok consultancy >> mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org >> www: www.vanderstok.org >> tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Roll mailing list >> Roll@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >> > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > > --=20 DIEGO DUJOVNE Profesor Asociado Escuela de Inform=C3=A1tica y Telecomunicaciones Facultad de Ingenier=C3=ADa - Universidad Diego Portales - Chile www.ingenieria.udp.cl (56 2) 676 8125 --001a114788088f7d81053cc07285 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support the charter.
Regards,

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2016-09-18 0= :57 GMT-03:00 Rahul Jadhav <rahul.ietf@gmail.com>:

Dear Chairs,

The work items are indeed clearer. I support the charter.

Thanks,
Rahul


On 16 Sep 2016 6:= 57 p.m., "peter van der Stok" <stokcons@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Dear all,

Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the maili= ng list.
The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past mon= ths.

Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer in = my opinion.

Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when the= y concern your work.

End of call: Saturday October 1.

Many thanks,

Peter + Ines

_________________________________________________________________= _________________________________________________________________= __________________________________________


Charter for ROLL Working Group

Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices w= ith limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are interconnecte= d by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low Power WiFi, = wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. LLNs are tran= sitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the problem of non-in= teroperable networks interconnected by protocol translation gateways and pr= oxies.

RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides addit= ional terminology for constrained devices.

RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from seve= ral application perspectives.
The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: connected= home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a Framework th= at takes into consideration various aspects including high reliability in t= he presence of time varying loss characteristics and connectivity while per= mitting low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressure in net= works potentially comprising a very large number (several thousands) of nod= es.

The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to maint= ain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working group, i= ncluding RPL and MPL.

ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that fo= cus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) and= lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and MA= NET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. T= he Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed.

Work Items are:

- Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. The W= GLC on this work will be shared with 6lo.

- Compression of=C2=A0 RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN adap= tation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG).

- Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of requ= ired routing states

- Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. (coo= rdinated with PiM wg)

- Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM w= g)

- Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. (coordin= ated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER)

- Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other prot= ocols defined by the working group.

- Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for exampl= e AODV-RPL


Milestones

DATE=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Milestone
September 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Recharter WG or clo= se
July 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of a solution for dr= aft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl = to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-mod= ifications to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-b= ier-ccast to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-vand= erstok-roll-mpl-forw-select to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-= mpl-yang to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao= -projection to IESG
November 2016=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial Submis= sion of the draft about when to use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 enca= psulation Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG.
November 2016=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 IESG Evaluation of d= raft-roll-routing-dispatch.

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--001a114788088f7d81053cc07285-- From nobody Sun Sep 18 23:51:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90C912B0C6 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:51:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k0F6mOEMbN8w for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io0-x22c.google.com (mail-io0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A6FD12B0A1 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id m79so82807305ioo.3 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:51:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=TSxdfdv5QNKgmxVvJd4rlzO0zgfGlb4yEl6OqW+jP+I=; b=F+dL2s2qGbX+Wwd1kZo5xvtgxBx3KlYpJqvrRI9mMZXxcEZs/hJS1ScOPVQnsYhsCB 0Bf/juCxWajhr/3y8TeL+VmKtOiOjvKrbNle3UjIMEWW6xZbt+jcoV2MytHryWV7Dje2 emNDmmO3wnMCo+bLDaHpdgNtAaqxv8EGSYZp41K8zqQdddmkZMT4KdxXO3VSUtGoOxuT CMiBDqS+RemGzHkcIxhaJD3bjxuwN575cyEhaPDG/zOWit1mCyllEtidHkeQnCnfC4pw Qkfe2ZNtRugC2bzwJOamzTb68lEdqmK9zK2Ewa52MYydJ7ZfvWy/hta804fcgVeBJ98T mX3g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=TSxdfdv5QNKgmxVvJd4rlzO0zgfGlb4yEl6OqW+jP+I=; b=hfaeHXWC0keLPpzIstZY9DpJas/uzE3EQfeI2D8599sh2haEJVjWxJlAXwEIx4WTK8 0ix5wJjqVgNx/MKHWaY7KuCbBVk5ePcgYrXte0q6Yuv3oocedakI8+Z6DVYUCre4HJvk MeFC5iGe+AgY+kObf726Plm4Fee9cqCmPKjXXfFXn2osCPAkUeGqP7fFw3pkEeV6j+Ar kEoXUUauQRKtYDCUi+FIH/fAbHFzWU6iiXceOmTRWEg33Ygou+3+7DK6hQ9B8KLwmvnn 2ExpgEGuOfQs2JZEG/nEM+1pSXbvHOC0+g+39x9yXpsWnWhEAU4yo877uIxWdpnNypip aLnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwO//BtsXf9uoFx5oe4qCpwG82kE6R72BkdcEUijgZHI8dGE4FgxrEq7rnudUZY8w6ahBNzS975k/pOk0w== X-Received: by 10.107.10.75 with SMTP id u72mr31641299ioi.22.1474267905760; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:51:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.169.2 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:51:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86972780d65c4f893678ee6963d89b7a@xs4all.nl> References: <86972780d65c4f893678ee6963d89b7a@xs4all.nl> From: satish anamalamudi Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 12:21:45 +0530 Message-ID: To: consultancy@vanderstok.org, Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113f90a0d3a627053cd6bec0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] last call for roll charter text. X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 06:51:49 -0000 --001a113f90a0d3a627053cd6bec0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello everyone, I support the current charter and proposed milestones. With Regards, Satish. On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:53 PM, peter van der Stok wrote: > Dear all, > > Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the > mailing list. > The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past > months. > > Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer in > my opinion. > > Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when > they concern your work. > > End of call: Saturday October 1. > > Many thanks, > > Peter + Ines > > ____________________________________________________________ > ____________________________________________________________ > ____________________________________________________ > > > Charter for ROLL Working Group > > Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices > with limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are > interconnected by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low > Power WiFi, wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. > LLNs are transitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the > problem of non-interoperable networks interconnected by protocol > translation gateways and proxies. > > RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides > additional terminology for constrained devices. > > RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from > several application perspectives. > The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: > connected home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a > Framework that takes into consideration various aspects including high > reliability in the presence of time varying loss characteristics and > connectivity while permitting low-power operation with very modest memory > and CPU pressure in networks potentially comprising a very large number > (several thousands) of nodes. > > The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to > maintain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working > group, including RPL and MPL. > > ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that > focus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) > and lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and > MANET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. > The Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed. > > Work Items are: > > - Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. The > WGLC on this work will be shared with 6lo. > > - Compression of RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN > adaptation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG). > > - Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of > required routing states > > - Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. > (coordinated with PiM wg) > > - Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM > wg) > > - Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. > (coordinated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER) > > - Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other > protocols defined by the working group. > > - Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for > example AODV-RPL > > > Milestones > > DATE Milestone > September 2018 Recharter WG or close > July 2018 Initial submission of a solution for > draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG > November 2017 Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl to IESG > November 2017 Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modifications > to IESG > July 2017 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-bier-ccast to IESG > July 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-forw-select > to IESG > March 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-yang to > IESG > March 2017 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection > to IESG > November 2016 Initial Submission of the draft about when to > use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation > Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG. > November 2016 IESG Evaluation of draft-roll-routing-dispatch. > > -- > Peter van der Stok > vanderstok consultancy > mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org > www: www.vanderstok.org > tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > -- *With Regards,* *Dr. Satish Anamalamudi, PhD.,Research Engineer, Huawei Networking Research Laboratory,Beijing, China.* --001a113f90a0d3a627053cd6bec0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone,

I support the current c= harter and proposed milestones.

With Regards,
Satish.


On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:53 PM, peter van der Stok = <stokcons@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Dear all,

Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the maili= ng list.
The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past mon= ths.

Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer in = my opinion.

Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when the= y concern your work.

End of call: Saturday October 1.

Many thanks,

Peter + Ines

_________________________________________________________________= _________________________________________________________________= __________________________________________


Charter for ROLL Working Group

Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices w= ith limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are interconnecte= d by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low Power WiFi, = wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. LLNs are tran= sitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the problem of non-in= teroperable networks interconnected by protocol translation gateways and pr= oxies.

RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides addit= ional terminology for constrained devices.

RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from seve= ral application perspectives.
The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: connected= home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a Framework th= at takes into consideration various aspects including high reliability in t= he presence of time varying loss characteristics and connectivity while per= mitting low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressure in net= works potentially comprising a very large number (several thousands) of nod= es.

The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to maint= ain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working group, i= ncluding RPL and MPL.

ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that fo= cus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) and= lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and MA= NET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. T= he Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed.

Work Items are:

- Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. The W= GLC on this work will be shared with 6lo.

- Compression of=C2=A0 RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN adap= tation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG).

- Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of requ= ired routing states

- Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. (coo= rdinated with PiM wg)

- Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM w= g)

- Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. (coordin= ated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER)

- Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other prot= ocols defined by the working group.

- Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for exampl= e AODV-RPL


Milestones

DATE=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Milestone
September 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Recharter WG or clo= se
July 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of a solution for dr= aft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl = to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-mod= ifications to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-b= ier-ccast to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-vand= erstok-roll-mpl-forw-select to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-= mpl-yang to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao= -projection to IESG
November 2016=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial Submis= sion of the draft about when to use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 enca= psulation Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG.
November 2016=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 IESG Evaluation of d= raft-roll-routing-dispatch.<= br>
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With Regards,
<= div>Dr. Satish Anamalamudi, PhD.,
Research En= gineer,=C2=A0
Huawei Networking Research Laboratory,
Beijing, China.<= /font>


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X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 10:07:06 -0000 --001a1144f6ec30c557053cd979bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi everyone, I also support the charter. A comment: should we consider mentioning explicitly the standards-track version of the P2P-RPL, as suggested by Pascal during the meeting in Berlin? Best, Emmanuel On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:51 AM, satish anamalamudi wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I support the current charter and proposed milestones. > > With Regards, > Satish. > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:53 PM, peter van der Stok > wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the >> mailing list. >> The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past >> months. >> >> Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer >> in my opinion. >> >> Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when >> they concern your work. >> >> End of call: Saturday October 1. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Peter + Ines >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> ____________________________________________________________ >> ____________________________________________________ >> >> >> Charter for ROLL Working Group >> >> Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices >> with limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are >> interconnected by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low >> Power WiFi, wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. >> LLNs are transitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the >> problem of non-interoperable networks interconnected by protocol >> translation gateways and proxies. >> >> RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides >> additional terminology for constrained devices. >> >> RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from >> several application perspectives. >> The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: >> connected home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a >> Framework that takes into consideration various aspects including high >> reliability in the presence of time varying loss characteristics and >> connectivity while permitting low-power operation with very modest memory >> and CPU pressure in networks potentially comprising a very large number >> (several thousands) of nodes. >> >> The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to >> maintain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working >> group, including RPL and MPL. >> >> ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that >> focus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) >> and lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and >> MANET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. >> The Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed. >> >> Work Items are: >> >> - Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. The >> WGLC on this work will be shared with 6lo. >> >> - Compression of RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN >> adaptation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG). >> >> - Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of >> required routing states >> >> - Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. >> (coordinated with PiM wg) >> >> - Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM >> wg) >> >> - Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. >> (coordinated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER) >> >> - Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other >> protocols defined by the working group. >> >> - Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for >> example AODV-RPL >> >> >> Milestones >> >> DATE Milestone >> September 2018 Recharter WG or close >> July 2018 Initial submission of a solution for >> draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG >> November 2017 Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl to IESG >> November 2017 Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modifications >> to IESG >> July 2017 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-bier-ccast to IESG >> July 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-forw-select >> to IESG >> March 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-yang to >> IESG >> March 2017 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection >> to IESG >> November 2016 Initial Submission of the draft about when to >> use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation >> Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG. >> November 2016 IESG Evaluation of draft-roll-routing-dispatch. >> >> -- >> Peter van der Stok >> vanderstok consultancy >> mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org >> www: www.vanderstok.org >> tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Roll mailing list >> Roll@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >> > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > *With Regards,* > > > > *Dr. Satish Anamalamudi, PhD.,Research Engineer, Huawei Networking > Research Laboratory,Beijing, China.* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > > --001a1144f6ec30c557053cd979bf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,
I also support the charter.
A c= omment: should we consider mentioning explicitly the standards-track versio= n of the P2P-RPL, as suggested by Pascal during the meeting in Berlin?
Best,
Emmanuel

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:51 AM, satish anamalamud= i <satishnaidu80@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I supp= ort the current charter and proposed milestones.

W= ith Regards,
Satish.


On Fri, Sep = 16, 2016 at 6:53 PM, peter van der Stok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Dear all,

Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the maili= ng list.
The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past mon= ths.

Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer in = my opinion.

Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when the= y concern your work.

End of call: Saturday October 1.

Many thanks,

Peter + Ines

_________________________________________________________________= _________________________________________________________________= __________________________________________


Charter for ROLL Working Group

Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices w= ith limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are interconnecte= d by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low Power WiFi, = wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. LLNs are tran= sitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the problem of non-in= teroperable networks interconnected by protocol translation gateways and pr= oxies.

RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides addit= ional terminology for constrained devices.

RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from seve= ral application perspectives.
The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: connected= home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a Framework th= at takes into consideration various aspects including high reliability in t= he presence of time varying loss characteristics and connectivity while per= mitting low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressure in net= works potentially comprising a very large number (several thousands) of nod= es.

The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to maint= ain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working group, i= ncluding RPL and MPL.

ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that fo= cus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) and= lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and MA= NET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. T= he Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed.

Work Items are:

- Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. The W= GLC on this work will be shared with 6lo.

- Compression of=C2=A0 RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN adap= tation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG).

- Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of requ= ired routing states

- Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. (coo= rdinated with PiM wg)

- Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM w= g)

- Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. (coordin= ated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER)

- Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other prot= ocols defined by the working group.

- Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for exampl= e AODV-RPL


Milestones

DATE=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Milestone
September 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Recharter WG or clo= se
July 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of a solution for dr= aft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl = to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-mod= ifications to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-b= ier-ccast to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-vand= erstok-roll-mpl-forw-select to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-= mpl-yang to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao= -projection to IESG
November 2016=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial Submis= sion of the draft about when to use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 enca= psulation Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG.
November 2016=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 IESG Evaluation of d= raft-roll-routing-dispatch.

--
Peter van der Stok
vanderstok consultancy
mailto: con= sultancy@vanderstok.org
www: www.vanderstok.org
tel NL: +31(0)492474673=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0F: +33(0)966015248

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Roll@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll



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With Regards,
Dr. Satish Anamalamudi, PhD.,
Research Engineer,=C2=A0<= br>Huawei Networking Research Laboratory,
Beijing, China.
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X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 11:01:15 -0000 --001a11401cfca418a0053cda3a27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Dear all, I support the charter as well. I consider the 2 first work items very necessary to have realistic and energy efficient RPL networks. Kind regards, Xavi 2016-09-19 12:06 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Baccelli : > Hi everyone, > I also support the charter. > A comment: should we consider mentioning explicitly the standards-track > version of the P2P-RPL, as suggested by Pascal during the meeting in Berlin? > Best, > Emmanuel > > On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:51 AM, satish anamalamudi < > satishnaidu80@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I support the current charter and proposed milestones. >> >> With Regards, >> Satish. >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:53 PM, peter van der Stok >> wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the >>> mailing list. >>> The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past >>> months. >>> >>> Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer >>> in my opinion. >>> >>> Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when >>> they concern your work. >>> >>> End of call: Saturday October 1. >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Peter + Ines >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> ____________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> Charter for ROLL Working Group >>> >>> Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded >>> devices with limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are >>> interconnected by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low >>> Power WiFi, wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. >>> LLNs are transitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the >>> problem of non-interoperable networks interconnected by protocol >>> translation gateways and proxies. >>> >>> RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides >>> additional terminology for constrained devices. >>> >>> RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from >>> several application perspectives. >>> The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: >>> connected home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a >>> Framework that takes into consideration various aspects including high >>> reliability in the presence of time varying loss characteristics and >>> connectivity while permitting low-power operation with very modest memory >>> and CPU pressure in networks potentially comprising a very large number >>> (several thousands) of nodes. >>> >>> The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to >>> maintain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working >>> group, including RPL and MPL. >>> >>> ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that >>> focus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) >>> and lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and >>> MANET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. >>> The Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed. >>> >>> Work Items are: >>> >>> - Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. >>> The WGLC on this work will be shared with 6lo. >>> >>> - Compression of RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN >>> adaptation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG). >>> >>> - Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of >>> required routing states >>> >>> - Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. >>> (coordinated with PiM wg) >>> >>> - Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and >>> PiM wg) >>> >>> - Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. >>> (coordinated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER) >>> >>> - Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other >>> protocols defined by the working group. >>> >>> - Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for >>> example AODV-RPL >>> >>> >>> Milestones >>> >>> DATE Milestone >>> September 2018 Recharter WG or close >>> July 2018 Initial submission of a solution for >>> draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG >>> November 2017 Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl to IESG >>> November 2017 Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modifications >>> to IESG >>> July 2017 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-bier-ccast to IESG >>> July 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-forw-select >>> to IESG >>> March 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-yang to >>> IESG >>> March 2017 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection >>> to IESG >>> November 2016 Initial Submission of the draft about when to >>> use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation >>> Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG. >>> November 2016 IESG Evaluation of draft-roll-routing-dispatch. >>> >>> -- >>> Peter van der Stok >>> vanderstok consultancy >>> mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org >>> www: www.vanderstok.org >>> tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Roll mailing list >>> Roll@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *With Regards,* >> >> >> >> *Dr. Satish Anamalamudi, PhD.,Research Engineer, Huawei Networking >> Research Laboratory,Beijing, China.* >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Roll mailing list >> Roll@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > > --001a11401cfca418a0053cda3a27 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,

I support the charter as well= . I consider the 2 first work items very necessary to have realistic and en= ergy efficient RPL networks.

Kind regards,
Xavi=

2016-= 09-19 12:06 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Baccelli <Emmanuel.Baccelli@inria.= fr>:
Hi ev= eryone,
I also support the charter.
A comment: should we cons= ider mentioning explicitly the standards-track version of the P2P-RPL, as s= uggested by Pascal during the meeting in Berlin?
Best,
= Emmanuel

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:51 AM, satish anamalamudi &l= t;satishnaidu8= 0@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,

I support the current charter = and proposed milestones.

With Regards,
S= atish.


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:53 PM, peter van der St= ok <stokcons@xs4all.nl> wrote:
Dear all,

Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the maili= ng list.
The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past mon= ths.

Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer in = my opinion.

Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when the= y concern your work.

End of call: Saturday October 1.

Many thanks,

Peter + Ines

_________________________________________________________________= _________________________________________________________________= __________________________________________


Charter for ROLL Working Group

Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices w= ith limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are interconnecte= d by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low Power WiFi, = wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. LLNs are tran= sitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the problem of non-in= teroperable networks interconnected by protocol translation gateways and pr= oxies.

RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides addit= ional terminology for constrained devices.

RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from seve= ral application perspectives.
The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: connected= home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a Framework th= at takes into consideration various aspects including high reliability in t= he presence of time varying loss characteristics and connectivity while per= mitting low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressure in net= works potentially comprising a very large number (several thousands) of nod= es.

The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to maint= ain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working group, i= ncluding RPL and MPL.

ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that fo= cus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) and= lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and MA= NET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. T= he Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed.

Work Items are:

- Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. The W= GLC on this work will be shared with 6lo.

- Compression of=C2=A0 RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN adap= tation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG).

- Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of requ= ired routing states

- Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. (coo= rdinated with PiM wg)

- Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM w= g)

- Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. (coordin= ated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER)

- Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other prot= ocols defined by the working group.

- Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for exampl= e AODV-RPL


Milestones

DATE=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Milestone
September 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Recharter WG or clo= se
July 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of a solution for dr= aft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl = to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-mod= ifications to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-b= ier-ccast to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-vand= erstok-roll-mpl-forw-select to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-= mpl-yang to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao= -projection to IESG
November 2016=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial Submis= sion of the draft about when to use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 enca= psulation Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG.
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networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:39:03 -0000 --001a114dd72ea62979053ced32c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, FYI, Cheers, ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht: > > Von: Mirja K=C3=BChlewind > Betreff: [Maprg] Call for Contributions: IETF-97, Soul > Datum: 20. September 2016 um 11:29:00 MESZ > An: maprg@irtf.org > Kopie: Dave Plonka > > Call for Contributions > for maprg IETF-97, Seoul > > The IRTF Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Research Group > (maprg) will have its first official meeting at the IETF-97, > November 13-18, 2016, in Seoul. > > Please consider sending a short abstract (200-300 words) to the > maprg chairs (maprg-chairs@ietf.org) describing a contribution > you're willing to present at the next meeting. The contribution can > be published or new (measurement) work in the scope of the research > group. Please see the charter for questions on scope: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/rg/maprg/charter/ > > The deadline for the first call for contributions is: > > October 14, 2016 > > The chairs will work to assemble an agenda for the meeting based on > received submissions taking into consideration the group's scope, > common themes, and/or relevance to currently existing IETF work. > > Since meeting time will be reserved for questions, commments, and > discussion, contributions may also be invited as presentations in > subsequent meetings. > > While in previous meetings (when the research group was proposed), > presentations were selected based on previous or on-going discussions > with the chairs or the working group in general, this time we'd > like to involve a broader community. We hope that this call might > also reach people that have not been strongly involved in maprg > thus far. > > Please share this call with other interested people or groups! > > Thanks for sending your contributions! > > Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any questions! > > Mirja and Dave - maprg chairs > > > _______________________________________________ > Maprg mailing list > Maprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg --001a114dd72ea62979053ced32c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

FYI, Cheers,

---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
>
> Von: Mirja K=C3=BChlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
> Betreff: [Maprg] Call for Contributions: IETF-97, Soul
> Datum: 20. September 2016 um 11:29:00 MESZ
> An: maprg@irtf.org
> Kopie: Dave Plonka <dave@plonka.u= s>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ca= ll for Contributions
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 for mapr= g IETF-97, Seoul
>
> The IRTF Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Research Group
> (maprg) will have its first official meeting at the IETF-97,
> November 13-18, 2016, in Seoul.
>
> Please consider sending a short abstract (200-300 words) to the
> maprg chairs (maprg-chairs@ie= tf.org) describing a contribution
> you're willing to present at the next meeting. The contribution ca= n
> be published or new (measurement) work in the scope of the research > group. Please see the charter for questions on scope:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/rg/= maprg/charter/
>
> The deadline for the first call for contributions is:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 October 14, 2016
>
> The chairs will work to assemble an agenda for the meeting based on > received submissions taking into consideration the group's scope,<= br> > common themes, and/or relevance to currently existing IETF work.
>
> Since meeting time will be reserved for questions, commments, and
> discussion, contributions may also be invited as presentations in
> subsequent meetings.
>
> While in previous meetings (when the research group was proposed),
> presentations were selected based on previous or on-going discussions<= br> > with the chairs or the working group in general, this time we'd > like to involve a broader community. We hope that this call might
> also reach people that have not been strongly involved in maprg
> thus far.
>
> Please share this call with other interested people or groups!
>
> Thanks for sending your contributions!
>
> Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any questions!
>
> Mirja and Dave - maprg chairs
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Maprg mailing list
> Maprg@irtf.org
> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/maprg=


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X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 13:03:53 -0000 --001a1142239c17f60f053cf00fb2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Respected chair I support the charter. regards sajjad On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:23 PM, peter van der Stok wrote: > Dear all, > > Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the > mailing list. > The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past > months. > > Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer in > my opinion. > > Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when > they concern your work. > > End of call: Saturday October 1. > > Many thanks, > > Peter + Ines > > ____________________________________________________________ > ____________________________________________________________ > ____________________________________________________ > > > Charter for ROLL Working Group > > Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices > with limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are > interconnected by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low > Power WiFi, wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. > LLNs are transitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the > problem of non-interoperable networks interconnected by protocol > translation gateways and proxies. > > RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides > additional terminology for constrained devices. > > RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from > several application perspectives. > The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: > connected home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a > Framework that takes into consideration various aspects including high > reliability in the presence of time varying loss characteristics and > connectivity while permitting low-power operation with very modest memory > and CPU pressure in networks potentially comprising a very large number > (several thousands) of nodes. > > The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to > maintain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working > group, including RPL and MPL. > > ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that > focus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) > and lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and > MANET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. > The Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed. > > Work Items are: > > - Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. The > WGLC on this work will be shared with 6lo. > > - Compression of RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN > adaptation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG). > > - Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of > required routing states > > - Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. > (coordinated with PiM wg) > > - Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM > wg) > > - Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. > (coordinated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER) > > - Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other > protocols defined by the working group. > > - Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for > example AODV-RPL > > > Milestones > > DATE Milestone > September 2018 Recharter WG or close > July 2018 Initial submission of a solution for > draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG > November 2017 Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl to IESG > November 2017 Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modifications > to IESG > July 2017 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-bier-ccast to IESG > July 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-forw-select > to IESG > March 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-yang to > IESG > March 2017 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection > to IESG > November 2016 Initial Submission of the draft about when to > use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation > Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG. > November 2016 IESG Evaluation of draft-roll-routing-dispatch. > > -- > Peter van der Stok > vanderstok consultancy > mailto: consultancy@vanderstok.org > www: www.vanderstok.org > tel NL: +31(0)492474673 F: +33(0)966015248 > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --001a1142239c17f60f053cf00fb2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Respected chair

I support the charter.

regards

sajjad

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:23 PM, peter van der Stok <st= okcons@xs4all.nl> wrote:
De= ar all,

Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the maili= ng list.
The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the past mon= ths.

Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and clearer in = my opinion.

Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates when the= y concern your work.

End of call: Saturday October 1.

Many thanks,

Peter + Ines

_________________________________________________________________= _________________________________________________________________= __________________________________________


Charter for ROLL Working Group

Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded devices w= ith limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are interconnecte= d by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, Bluetooth, Low Power WiFi, = wired or other low power PLC (Powerline Communication) links. LLNs are tran= sitioning to an end-to-end IP-based solution to avoid the problem of non-in= teroperable networks interconnected by protocol translation gateways and pr= oxies.

RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides addit= ional terminology for constrained devices.

RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from seve= ral application perspectives.
The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: connected= home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed a Framework th= at takes into consideration various aspects including high reliability in t= he presence of time varying loss characteristics and connectivity while per= mitting low-power operation with very modest memory and CPU pressure in net= works potentially comprising a very large number (several thousands) of nod= es.

The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to maint= ain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the working group, i= ncluding RPL and MPL.

ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas that fo= cus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as 6lo (Int) and= lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), BIER (rtg) and MA= NET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit from their results. T= he Working group will align with the 6man (Int) WG when needed.

Work Items are:

- Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. The W= GLC on this work will be shared with 6lo.

- Compression of=C2=A0 RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN adap= tation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG).

- Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of requ= ired routing states

- Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. (coo= rdinated with PiM wg)

- Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and PiM w= g)

- Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. (coordin= ated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER)

- Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other prot= ocols defined by the working group.

- Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for exampl= e AODV-RPL


Milestones

DATE=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Milestone
September 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Recharter WG or clo= se
July 2018=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of a solution for dr= aft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl = to IESG
November 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-gundogan-roll-dis-mod= ifications to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-b= ier-ccast to IESG
July 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial submission of draft-vand= erstok-roll-mpl-forw-select to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-= mpl-yang to IESG
March 2017=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao= -projection to IESG
November 2016=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Initial Submis= sion of the draft about when to use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 enca= psulation Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG.
November 2016=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 IESG Evaluation of d= raft-roll-routing-dispatch.<= br>
--
Peter van der Stok
vanderstok consultancy
mailto: con= sultancy@vanderstok.org
www: www.vanderstok.org
tel NL: +31(0)492474673=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0F: +33(0)966015248

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This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks of the IETF. Title : Applicability Statement for the Routing Protocol for Low Power and Lossy Networks (RPL) in AMI Networks Authors : Nancy Cam-Winget Jonathan Hui Daniel Popa Filename : draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami-14.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2016-09-26 Abstract: This document discusses the applicability of RPL in Advanced Metering Infrastructure (AMI) networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami-14 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami-14 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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Tue, 27 Sep 2016 04:53:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Stephen Farrell" To: "The IESG" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.34.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147497722482.20840.10668171453005876948.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 04:53:44 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: roll-chairs@ietf.org, roll@ietf.org, draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami@ietf.org, mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca Subject: [Roll] Stephen Farrell's No Objection on draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami-14: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:53:45 -0000 Stephen Farrell has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami-14: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-applicability-ami/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the changes in response to my discuss ballot. In the new privacy considerations section I think there are two changes still needed: 1) The reference to I_D.thaler... should be to draft-ietf-6lo-privacy-considerations which replaced the Dave Thaler's individual draft. 2) RFC6550 doesn't contain the term "privacy" at all so I'm not sure what section(s) you're referring to there. [DEVCC] does however seem to cover the issues, so I've cleared my discuss. That said, I'm not sure if the privacy considerations for deployments outside the US may be significantly different, (I would not be surprised if they are) so I'd encourage you to also search for and reference e.g. a European equivalent document if there is one available. I've not read it but maybe [1], or some of the references contained in [1] might be useful. [1] http://publications.lib.chalmers.se/records/fulltext/215870/215870.pdf OLD COMMENTS below - I didn't check 'em. - 1.3: what's the 3rd bullet mean? It's worded very ambiguously. With s/(vs. non-storing)// it'd be clear. - section 3: "a potentially significant portion of which is taken up by protocol and encryption overhead" seems overstated to me - are there numbers to back that up? - 5.1, last sentence: why is it important to note that? explaining would be good - 7.2.3: I don't get what you're telling me here that assists in security or interop? - section 9: please provide references to back up the assertion that "many available security mechanisms are not practical for use in such networks" for some relevant security mechanisms. The problem is that such assertions are used to justify doing nothing at all so they ought not be blithely made. - 9.1: "are unique per device" etc is the only sensible thing and would be nice if always true, but that is often not the case - why state what's known to not be true? Or are you trying to say something else? - 9.2: "it is replaced" - again that's not true, only devices known to be compromised would be replaced, which is by no means all compromised devices - 9.3: "already existing" - you really should have a reference there. 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boundary="_000_bad94e0d246745d0a2ccc42c8b7c5cb8XCHRCD001ciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] [6lo] WG adoption call for draft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd-04 X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 10:01:38 -0000 --_000_bad94e0d246745d0a2ccc42c8b7c5cb8XCHRCD001ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear ROLL community : I wish to attract your attention (as an author) to this call that is happen= ing at 6lo. Basically, we are proposing to secure the 6LowPAn ND registrati= on to prevent theft from a third party. This echoes the past work at SeND a= nd SAVI in a very simple fashion. Basically the device uses a crypto ID information (like CGA) instead of the= unique ID in the ARO option that can be used to validate that the next reg= istration come from the same device. A same crypto ID can be used to regist= er multiple addresses, and the addresses to not need to derive from the cry= pto ID (as opposed to SeND). It is stored at the 6LR and 6LBR, which can us= e ND extension to revalidate the ID ownership at any time they want. If you agree with the need and support the idea, please contribute on the 6= lo mailing list by responding the poll below. Take care, Pascal From: 6lo [mailto:6lo-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of samita Chakrabarti Sent: mardi 27 septembre 2016 03:15 To: 'lo' <6lo@ietf.org> Cc: 6lo-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [6lo] WG adoption call for draft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd-04 Hello 6lo WG: We have discussed the following document at the IETF meetings and mailing l= ist about the use of cryptographic ID to identify one device with a particu= lar IPv6 address during the Neighbor Discovery Process. The crypto-ID assoc= iation is helpful when MAC-ID or EUI-64 ID may not be used. There has been fair amount of interest in securing the IP-address owner aut= hentication using this method, in the WG meetings(IETF95). The co-authors have addressed several WG comments in the 04 version. The adoption call starts now and ends on Oct 10th, 2016. Please provide your opinion with yes/no answer and a short explanation fo= r this adoption call within the deadline. Thanks and Regards, -Gabriel and Samita (6lo co-chairs) > > > Name: draft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd > Revision: 04 > Title: Address Protected Neighbor Discovery for Low-power and Lo= ssy Networks > Document date: 2016-08-22 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 17 > URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sarikaya-6lo-a= p-nd-04.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd= / > Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd-04 > Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-sarikaya-6lo-ap= -nd-04 > > Abstract: > This document defines an extension to 6LoWPAN Neighbor Discovery. > This extension is designed for low-power and lossy network > environments and it supports multi-hop operation. Nodes supporting > this extension compute a Cryptographically Unique Interface ID and > associate it with one or more of their Registered Addresses. The > Cryptographic ID (Crypto-ID) uniquely identifies the owner of the > Registered Address. It is used in place of the EUI-64 address that > is specified in RFC 6775. Once an address is registered with a > Cryptographic ID, only the owner of that ID can modify the state > information of the Registered Address in the 6LR and 6LBR. --_000_bad94e0d246745d0a2ccc42c8b7c5cb8XCHRCD001ciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear ROLL community&nb= sp;:

 

I wish to attract your= attention (as an author) to this call that is happening at 6lo. Basically,= we are proposing to secure the 6LowPAn ND registration to prevent theft fr= om a third party. This echoes the past work at SeND and SAVI in a very simple fashion.

Basically the device u= ses a crypto ID information (like CGA) instead of the unique ID in the ARO = option that can be used to validate that the next registration come from th= e same device. A same crypto ID can be used to register multiple addresses, and the addresses to not need to d= erive from the crypto ID (as opposed to SeND). It is stored at the 6LR and = 6LBR, which can use ND extension to revalidate the ID ownership at any time= they want.

 

If you agree with the = need and support the idea, please contribute on the 6lo mailing list by res= ponding the poll below.

 

Take care,<= /span>

 

Pascal

 = ;

From: 6lo [mailt= o:6lo-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of samita Chakrabarti
Sent: mardi 27 septembre 2016 03:15
To: 'lo' <6lo@ietf.org>
Cc: 6lo-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [6lo] WG adoption call for draft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd-04=

 

 

 

Hello 6lo WG:

 

We have discussed the f= ollowing document at the IETF meetings and mailing list about the use of cr= yptographic ID to identify one device with a particular IPv6 address during= the Neighbor Discovery Process. The crypto-ID association is helpful when MAC-ID or EUI-64 ID may not be used.=

There has been fair amo= unt of interest in securing the IP-address owner authentication using this = method, in the WG meetings(IETF95).

 

The co-authors have add= ressed several WG comments in the 04 version.

 

The adoption call  = ;starts now and ends on Oct 10th, 2016.

 

Please provide your opi= nion with  yes/no  answer and a short explanation for this adopti= on call within the deadline.

 

Thanks and Regards,

-Gabriel and Samita (6l= o co-chairs)

 

> 

> 

> Name:  &= nbsp;        draft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd

> Revision: &nb= sp;     04

> Title:  =         Address Protected Neighbor Disco= very for Low-power and Lossy Networks

> Document date:&nbs= p; 2016-08-22

> Group:  =         Individual Submission=

> Pages:  =         17

> URL:  &n= bsp;         https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd-04.txt

> Status:  = ;       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd/

> Htmlized: &nb= sp;     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd-04

> Diff:  &= nbsp;        https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-sarikaya-6lo-ap-nd-04

> 

> Abstract:

>    = This document defines an extension to 6LoWPAN Neighbor Discovery.

>    = This extension is designed for low-power and lossy network

>    = environments and it supports multi-hop operation.  Nodes supporting

>    = this extension compute a Cryptographically Unique Interface ID and

>    = associate it with one or more of their Registered Addresses.  The=

>    = Cryptographic ID (Crypto-ID) uniquely identifies the owner of the

>    = Registered Address.  It is used in place of the EUI-64 address that

>    = is specified in RFC 6775.  Once an address is registered with a

>    = Cryptographic ID, only the owner of that ID can modify the state=

>    = information of the Registered Address in the 6LR and 6LBR.

 

--_000_bad94e0d246745d0a2ccc42c8b7c5cb8XCHRCD001ciscocom_-- From nobody Fri Sep 30 12:32:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5787912B1E0 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 12:32:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.036 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.036 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.316] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); domainkeys=pass (384-bit key) header.from=charles.perkins@earthlink.net header.d=earthlink.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2owifzfjSzyd for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 12:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EDA112B1B9 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 12:32:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Td6KYder7vDAmMKmFHNvbWGXEx8tEfXgLT+C1bc9gHPP6LB8RwZo/FV88W+JbtCc; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [99.51.72.196] (helo=[192.168.1.82]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1bq3Xh-0008OK-Dn; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 15:32:21 -0400 To: consultancy@vanderstok.org, Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks , emarobl , Alvaro Retana References: <86972780d65c4f893678ee6963d89b7a@xs4all.nl> From: Charlie Perkins Message-ID: <4dd822d3-af91-b72f-558d-00e574dbbab4@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 12:32:19 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86972780d65c4f893678ee6963d89b7a@xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956527bd5036cbc8ac719dd1cbdb52d858611516252aae9859e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 99.51.72.196 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] last call for roll charter text. X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 19:32:40 -0000 Hello folks, I support this charter. I think it is clear and worthwhile and achievable. Regards, Charlie P. On 9/16/2016 6:23 AM, peter van der Stok wrote: > Dear all, > > Below the text for the ROLL charter as discussed in Berlin and on the > mailing list. > The last additions are the milestones based on the feedback of the > past months. > > Many thanks for all your contributions. The text is shorter and > clearer in my opinion. > > Please react to (approve) the text, and review the milestone dates > when they concern your work. > > End of call: Saturday October 1. > > Many thanks, > > Peter + Ines > > ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Charter for ROLL Working Group > > Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs ) are made up of many embedded > devices with limited power, memory, and processing resources. They are > interconnected by a variety of links, such as IEEE 802.15.4, > Bluetooth, Low Power WiFi, wired or other low power PLC (Powerline > Communication) links. LLNs are transitioning to an end-to-end IP-based > solution to avoid the problem of non-interoperable networks > interconnected by protocol translation gateways and proxies. > > RFC7102 discusses ROLL specific aspects of LLNs, and RFC7228 provides > additional terminology for constrained devices. > > RFC 5548, 5673, 5826, and 5876 describe the requirements for LLNs from > several application perspectives. > The Working Group has focused on routing solutions for the areas: > connected home, building, and urban sensor networks. It has developed > a Framework that takes into consideration various aspects including > high reliability in the presence of time varying loss characteristics > and connectivity while permitting low-power operation with very modest > memory and CPU pressure in networks potentially comprising a very > large number (several thousands) of nodes. > > The Working Group continues to focus on routing issues for LLN and to > maintain, improve and streamline the protocols developed by the > working group, including RPL and MPL. > > ROLL will coordinate closely with the working groups in other areas > that focus on constrained networks and/or constrained nodes, such as > 6lo (Int) and lwig (Int) and CoRE (App). The working groups PiM (rtg), > BIER (rtg) and MANET (rtg) will be consulted when ROLL work can profit > from their results. The Working group will align with the 6man (Int) > WG when needed. > > Work Items are: > > - Guidance in using RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation. > The WGLC on this work will be shared with 6lo. > > - Compression of RFC6553, RFC6554, and IP headers in the 6LoWPAN > adaptation layer context. (coordinated with 6lo WG). > > - Additional protocol elements to reduce packet size and the amount of > required routing states > > - Automatic selection of MPL forwarders to reduce message replication. > (coordinated with PiM wg) > > - Data models for RPL and MPL management (coordinated with netmod and > PiM wg) > > - Alternative Multicast algorithm see for example Bier forwarding. > (coordinated with PiM wg and relateds wg, e.g. BIER) > > - Methods to improve or correct the current RPL behavior and the other > protocols defined by the working group. > > - Alternative Routing mechanism for constrained environments see for > example AODV-RPL > > > Milestones > > DATE Milestone > September 2018 Recharter WG or close > July 2018 Initial submission of a solution for > draft-jadhav-roll-no-path-dao-ps to IESG > November 2017 Initial submission of draft-satish-roll-aodv-rpl to > IESG > November 2017 Initial submission of > draft-gundogan-roll-dis-modifications to IESG > July 2017 Initial submission of draft-bergmann-bier-ccast to IESG > July 2017 Initial submission of > draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-forw-select to IESG > March 2017 Initial submission of draft-vanderstok-roll-mpl-yang to > IESG > March 2017 Initial submission of draft-thubert-roll-dao-projection > to IESG > November 2016 Initial Submission of the draft about when > to use RFC6553, RFC6554, and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation > Draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo to the IESG. > November 2016 IESG Evaluation of draft-roll-routing-dispatch. >