From nobody Thu Mar 1 09:26:20 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietf.org Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6995B12EB9B; Thu, 1 Mar 2018 09:26:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: roll@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.73.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <151992517337.10026.7850906494743523601@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 09:26:13 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-22.txt X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 17:26:13 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF. Title : When to use RFC 6553, 6554 and IPv6-in-IPv6 Authors : Maria Ines Robles Michael C. Richardson Pascal Thubert Filename : draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-22.txt Pages : 46 Date : 2018-03-01 Abstract: This document looks at different data flows through LLN (Low-Power and Lossy Networks) where RPL (IPv6 Routing Protocol for Low-Power and Lossy Networks) is used to establish routing. The document enumerates the cases where RFC 6553, RFC 6554 and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation is required. This analysis provides the basis on which to design efficient compression of these headers. This document updates RFC 6553 adding a change to the RPL Option Type. Additionally, this document updates RFC 6550 to indicate about this change and updates RFC8138 as well to consider the new Option Type when RPL Option is decompressed. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-22 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-22 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo-22 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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--001a113532706d407205666ea156-- From nobody Mon Mar 5 15:15:57 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietf.org Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC0D126D85; Mon, 5 Mar 2018 15:15:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: roll@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.74.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152029175052.12875.8171800323516993374@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 15:15:50 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03.txt X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 23:15:51 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF. Title : Asymmetric AODV-P2P-RPL in Low-Power and Lossy Networks (LLNs) Authors : Satish Anamalamudi Mingui Zhang Abdur Rashid Sangi Charles E. Perkins S.V.R Anand Bing Liu Filename : draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2018-03-05 Abstract: Route discovery for symmetric and asymmetric Point-to-Point (P2P) traffic flows is a desirable feature in Low power and Lossy Networks (LLNs). For that purpose, this document specifies a reactive P2P route discovery mechanism for both hop-by-hop routing and source routing: Ad Hoc On-demand Distance Vector Routing (AODV) based RPL protocol. Paired Instances are used to construct directional paths, in case some of the links between source and target node are asymmetric. 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Now we will need to review again. I prefer that we get some list-discussions from the authors before editing, but it seems that they are discussing offline, IMHO, the WG should be involved/aware when having big editing into wg-draft. AB On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:15 AM, wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks > WG of the IETF. > > Title : Asymmetric AODV-P2P-RPL in Low-Power and Lossy > Networks (LLNs) > Authors : Satish Anamalamudi > Mingui Zhang > Abdur Rashid Sangi > Charles E. Perkins > S.V.R Anand > Bing Liu > Filename : draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03.txt > Pages : 24 > Date : 2018-03-05 > > Abstract: > Route discovery for symmetric and asymmetric Point-to-Point (P2P) > traffic flows is a desirable feature in Low power and Lossy Networks > (LLNs). For that purpose, this document specifies a reactive P2P > route discovery mechanism for both hop-by-hop routing and source > routing: Ad Hoc On-demand Distance Vector Routing (AODV) based RPL > protocol. Paired Instances are used to construct directional paths, > in case some of the links between source and target node are > asymmetric. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > --001a1134f342d517ad0566d1e00e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There are a lot of new changes in the draft it is sur= prising for me, but seems good. Now=C2=A0we will need to review again. I pr= efer that we get some list-discussions from the authors before editing, but= it seems that they are discussing offline, IMHO, the WG should be involved= /aware when having big editing into wg-draft.

AB<= /div>

On Tue= , Mar 6, 2018 at 1:15 AM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org>= wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies.
This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks = WG of the IETF.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= Asymmetric AODV-P2P-RPL in Low-Power and Lossy Networks (LLNs)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Sati= sh Anamalamudi
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mingui Zhang
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Abdur Rashid Sangi
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Charles E. Perkins
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 S.V.R Anand
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bing Liu
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet= f-roll-aodv-rpl-03.txt
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:= 24
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 := 2018-03-05

Abstract:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Route discovery for symmetric and asymmetric Point-to-Point (P= 2P)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0traffic flows is a desirable feature in Low power and Lossy Ne= tworks
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(LLNs).=C2=A0 For that purpose, this document specifies a reac= tive P2P
=C2=A0 =C2=A0route discovery mechanism for both hop-by-hop routing and sour= ce
=C2=A0 =C2=A0routing: Ad Hoc On-demand Distance Vector Routing (AODV) based= RPL
=C2=A0 =C2=A0protocol.=C2=A0 Paired Instances are used to construct directi= onal paths,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0in case some of the links between source and target node are =C2=A0 =C2=A0asymmetric.


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https://datatracker.ietf.org/d= oc/html/draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03

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It is my feeling that the recently submitted document needs more work and more input from the working group before Last Call should be issued again.  I will go over the changes and next steps during the WG meeting at IETF 101, but in the meantime your comments about the changes will be welcome.  If it is indicated, I can submit another revised version before the actual face-to-face meeting, but that does not give time for thorough review. Regards, Charlie P. On 3/7/2018 4:41 AM, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > There are a lot of new changes in the draft it is surprising for me, > but seems good. Now we will need to review again. I prefer that we get > some list-discussions from the authors before editing, but it seems > that they are discussing offline, IMHO, the WG should be > involved/aware when having big editing into wg-draft. > > AB > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:15 AM, > wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy > networks WG of the IETF. > >         Title           : Asymmetric AODV-P2P-RPL in Low-Power and > Lossy Networks (LLNs) >         Authors         : Satish Anamalamudi >                           Mingui Zhang >                           Abdur Rashid Sangi >                           Charles E. Perkins >                           S.V.R Anand >                           Bing Liu >         Filename        : draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03.txt >         Pages           : 24 >         Date            : 2018-03-05 > > Abstract: >    Route discovery for symmetric and asymmetric Point-to-Point (P2P) >    traffic flows is a desirable feature in Low power and Lossy > Networks >    (LLNs).  For that purpose, this document specifies a reactive P2P >    route discovery mechanism for both hop-by-hop routing and source >    routing: Ad Hoc On-demand Distance Vector Routing (AODV) based RPL >    protocol.  Paired Instances are used to construct directional > paths, >    in case some of the links between source and target node are >    asymmetric. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl/ > > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03 > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03 > > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03 > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org . > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll --------------BDCC7D23F4C968365A77FCA3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello Abdussalam,

Yes, this is a big change from the previous version.  The changes were in response to WG requests, and many involved importing features from RFC 6997 as requested.

It is my feeling that the recently submitted document needs more work and more input from the working group before Last Call should be issued again.  I will go over the changes and next steps during the WG meeting at IETF 101, but in the meantime your comments about the changes will be welcome.  If it is indicated, I can submit another revised version before the actual face-to-face meeting, but that does not give time for thorough review.

Regards,
Charlie P.


On 3/7/2018 4:41 AM, Abdussalam Baryun wrote:
There are a lot of new changes in the draft it is surprising for me, but seems good. Now we will need to review again. I prefer that we get some list-discussions from the authors before editing, but it seems that they are discussing offline, IMHO, the WG should be involved/aware when having big editing into wg-draft.

AB

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:15 AM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Asymmetric AODV-P2P-RPL in Low-Power and Lossy Networks (LLNs)
        Authors         : Satish Anamalamudi
                          Mingui Zhang
                          Abdur Rashid Sangi
                          Charles E. Perkins
                          S.V.R Anand
                          Bing Liu
        Filename        : draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03.txt
        Pages           : 24
        Date            : 2018-03-05

Abstract:
   Route discovery for symmetric and asymmetric Point-to-Point (P2P)
   traffic flows is a desirable feature in Low power and Lossy Networks
   (LLNs).  For that purpose, this document specifies a reactive P2P
   route discovery mechanism for both hop-by-hop routing and source
   routing: Ad Hoc On-demand Distance Vector Routing (AODV) based RPL
   protocol.  Paired Instances are used to construct directional paths,
   in case some of the links between source and target node are
   asymmetric.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-roll-aodv-rpl-03


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/

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--------------BDCC7D23F4C968365A77FCA3-- From nobody Wed Mar 7 15:24:21 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16469124319 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 15:17:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.21 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XmdH73wwdQ4T for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 15:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4DCE120727 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 15:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 229FEB812F3; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 15:16:47 -0800 (PST) To: gnawali@cs.uh.edu, pal@cs.stanford.edu, akatlas@gmail.com, db3546@att.com, aretana.ietf@gmail.com, maria.ines.robles@ericsson.com, consultancy@vanderstok.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: dat@exegin.com, roll@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20180307231647.229FEB812F3@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 15:16:47 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 15:24:19 -0800 Subject: [Roll] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC6719 (5283) X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 23:17:06 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6719, "The Minimum Rank with Hysteresis Objective Function". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5283 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Dario Tedeschi Section: 3.3 Original Text ------------- whose paths have a large range of Ranks will likely result in subptimal routing: nodes might not choose good paths because they are Corrected Text -------------- whose paths have a large range of Ranks will likely result in suboptimal routing: nodes might not choose good paths because they are Notes ----- Incorrect spelling of suboptimal. Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC6719 (draft-ietf-roll-minrank-hysteresis-of-11) -------------------------------------- Title : The Minimum Rank with Hysteresis Objective Function Publication Date : September 2012 Author(s) : O. Gnawali, P. Levis Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Area : Routing Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Wed Mar 14 12:47:58 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787F5124BE8; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:47:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SkT1zxHEt3GI; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0B8A1200F1; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 6547EB8274F; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:47:49 -0700 (PDT) To: dat@exegin.com, gnawali@cs.uh.edu, pal@cs.stanford.edu X-PHP-Originating-Script: 30:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: aretana.ietf@gmail.com, iesg@ietf.org, roll@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20180314194749.6547EB8274F@rfc-editor.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC6719 (5283) X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2018 19:47:51 -0000 The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC6719, "The Minimum Rank with Hysteresis Objective Function". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid5283 -------------------------------------- Status: Held for Document Update Type: Editorial Reported by: Dario Tedeschi Date Reported: 2018-03-07 Held by: Alvaro Retana (IESG) Section: 3.3 Original Text ------------- whose paths have a large range of Ranks will likely result in subptimal routing: nodes might not choose good paths because they are Corrected Text -------------- whose paths have a large range of Ranks will likely result in suboptimal routing: nodes might not choose good paths because they are Notes ----- Incorrect spelling of suboptimal. -------------------------------------- RFC6719 (draft-ietf-roll-minrank-hysteresis-of-11) -------------------------------------- Title : The Minimum Rank with Hysteresis Objective Function Publication Date : September 2012 Author(s) : O. 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This discussion may also be of interest to roll, 6lo, 6tisch, and lpwan = WGs. > > The wireless environment for IoT/LPWAN/SmartFoo applications will consist= of many *administratively independent* networks operating in the same loca= tion and sharing unlicensed spectrum. > > This leads to a couple of discussion points: > > 1) Recent results (ours and others) have shown that protocol-level intera= ctions between networks can significantly affect performance. More generall= y, the community does not yet have a good sense of how to do performance ev= aluation in dense, heterogeneous wireless environments. > > 2) Because there is no administrative relationship between networks, ther= e is no obvious way for them to explicitly coordinate their use of the shar= ed channel. Can higher layer protocols contribute in some way? > > For more details, please see: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-feeney-t2= trg-inter-network-01 > > > Best regards, > Laura & T2TRG chairs --94eb2c188ccc659cf70567bf64a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

FYI,

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> Begin forwarded message:
>=20
> From: Ari Ker=C3=A4nen <ari=
.keranen@ericsson.com>
> Subject: T2TRG hosted side meeting on network coexistence (Mon 17:30-1=
8:00, Waterloo)
> Date: 15 March 2018 at 15.09.22 EET
> To: "T2TRG@irtf.org" <T2TRG@irtf.org>
> Cc: L M Feeney <laura.ma=
rie.feeney@it.uu.se>
>=20
> T2TRG is hosting a side meeting on "network coexistence and coord=
ination" 17:30-18:00 on Monday March 19th in the IETF hotel meeting ro=
om "Waterloo".  This discussion may also be of interest to roll, =
6lo, 6tisch, and lpwan WGs.
>=20
> The wireless environment for IoT/LPWAN/SmartFoo applications will cons=
ist of many *administratively independent* networks operating in the same l=
ocation and sharing unlicensed spectrum.
>=20
> This leads to a couple of discussion points:
>=20
> 1) Recent results (ours and others) have shown that protocol-level int=
eractions between networks can significantly affect performance. More gener=
ally, the community does not yet have a good sense of how to do performance=
 evaluation in dense, heterogeneous wireless environments.
>=20
> 2) Because there is no administrative relationship between networks, t=
here is no obvious way for them to explicitly coordinate their use of the s=
hared channel.  Can higher layer protocols contribute in some way?
>=20
> For more details, please see: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-feen=
ey-t2trg-inter-network-01
>=20
>=20
> Best regards,
> Laura & T2TRG chairs

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This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF. Title : Root initiated routing state in RPL Authors : Pascal Thubert Rahul Arvind Jadhav James Pylakutty Filename : draft-ietf-roll-dao-projection-03.txt Pages : 20 Date : 2018-03-19 Abstract: This document proposes a protocol extension to RPL that enables to install a limited amount of centrally-computed routes in a RPL graph, enabling loose source routing down a non-storing mode DODAG, or transversal routes inside the DODAG. As opposed to the classical route injection in RPL that are injected by the end devices, this draft enables the root of the DODAG to projects the routes that are needed on the nodes where they should be installed. 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The change is only on Friday in the order of the presentations. https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/agenda-101-roll-01.txt Comments welcome :-) Thank you! Ines + Peter 2018-02-23 16:19 GMT+00:00 Ines Robles : > Dear all, > > Please find the preliminary agenda for the IETF 101. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/agenda-101-roll.txt > > Comments welcome, > > Thank you! > > Ines + Peter > --001a113eda32d58e8e0567cb0a53 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear all,

Please find an updated agenda= for the IETF 101. The change is only on Friday in the order of the present= ations.


Com= ments welcome :-)

Thank you!

<= div>Ines + Peter

2018-02-23 16:19 GMT+00:00 Ines Robles <mariaines= robles@googlemail.com>:
Dear all,

Please find the preliminary agen= da for the IETF 101.


Comments welcome,

<= div>Thank you!

Ines + Peter

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Please find the slides for the IETF 101

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Thank you!

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2018-03-19 22:33 GMT+00:00 Ines R= obles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com>:
Dear all,

Pl= ease find the slides for the IETF 101

Comments wel= come :-),

Thank you!

Ines= + Peter

--94eb2c0770f67c557d0567cb8cb6-- From nobody Wed Mar 21 06:34:41 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietf.org Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00F112702E; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 06:34:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: roll@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.76.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152163927567.7412.7633833538309720581@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 06:34:35 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-02.txt X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 13:34:36 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF. Title : No-Path DAO modifications Authors : Rahul Arvind Jadhav Pascal Thubert Rabi Narayan Sahoo Zhen Cao Filename : draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-02.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2018-03-21 Abstract: This document describes the problems associated with the use of No- Path DAO messaging in RPL and a signaling changes to improve route invalidation efficiency. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Wed Mar 21 13:59:54 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietf.org Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4B51270FC for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 13:59:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.76.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152166599218.21101.5318530371758086550.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 13:59:52 -0700 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] Milestones changed for roll WG X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:59:52 -0000 Changed milestone "Initial Submission of a proposal with uses cases for RPI, RH3 and IPv6-in-IPv6 encapsulation to the IESG", set due date to April 2018 from January 2017. Changed milestone "Initial submission of a reactive P2P route discovery mechanism based on AODV-RPL protocol to the IESG", set due date to July 2018 from November 2017. Changed milestone "Initial submission of a root initiated routing state in RPL to the IESG", set due date to August 2018 from March 2017. Changed milestone "Initial submission of a proposal to augment DIS flags and options to the IESG ", set due date to December 2018 from November 2017. Changed milestone "Initial submission of a proposal for Source-Route Multicast for RPL to the IESG", set due date to January 2019 from July 2017. Changed milestone "Initial submission of a YANG model for MPL to the IESG", set due date to March 2019 from March 2017. Changed milestone "Initial submission of a Forwarder Selection Protocol for MPL to the IESG", set due date to July 2019 from July 2017. Changed milestone "Recharter WG or close", set due date to September 2019 from September 2018. 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Dear all,

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--94eb2c0770f697ac440567fbfb00-- From nobody Thu Mar 22 03:28:50 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE38120726 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 03:28:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15CcELNgLzM8 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 03:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A896A1201F2 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 03:28:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.201.11]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id w2MASgQt001106 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:28:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:2001:638:708:18::31] (unknown [IPv6:2001:638:708:18::31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 406NDp539nzDXDh; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 11:28:42 +0100 (CET) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 543407319.0684201-683a28a463e6bebd9993d3896dc726cd Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 10:28:41 +0000 Message-Id: <8EC2893F-731B-439D-86FE-984505349D8D@tzi.org> To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] draft-rahul-roll-rpl-observations-00 Section 2.1: Wear leveling X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 10:28:48 -0000 Today, at the mike, I asked about wear leveling. The numbers in 2.1 seem to assume you do a full erase/write cycle per = store operation. That is not a good way to use Flash storage. Obviously, for true wear = leveling you need a bit more flash space (and a bit more code, which = also needs flash space), but then there already are other items that you = want to commit to stable storage on a somewhat regular basis. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Thu Mar 22 08:15:04 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01219126D05 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 08:15:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.011 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.011 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gundogan.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05Ho4pxWMuPw for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 08:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trantor.gundogan.net (trantor.gundogan.net [37.120.167.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF26B12D948 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 08:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dhcp-8f96.meeting.ietf.org [31.133.143.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by trantor.gundogan.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C28B6D4EC for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 15:12:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gundogan.net; s=201712; t=1521731536; bh=BynbUOQcQLM8JUoYvZI46B+lD0TISdRpfflX576XSKI=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=XY1hANFoOtlTcjOzMrMourxuihk9tAJlt1sqyN7YPlRawHSTe0zYT+pVm/SbP6UJg qKmYtStggS8n0qqg9tGdj0wQtmsA5D/jO5tLtFr7YJC6ZTeEPLaVccNdV7XQSGbgii 4SmT+TSrE7dJvSsCSo9doOxI+skOOb/p6N8V2/wghsoHnbaWxwueAHhh4DBQFq+BmX Mb/njfhD1nKrA8erpVtU/cXnEwS7xKLkiei9Jc+vn5c7WLgvXhmRs1ffwNsGxLUtMI APyzEMyuIZX2qIJnckZiveauwLkgG3vLrNZanZ1HZdoU8SA+dQf86DtLnkgNFvvR4C vkSABSue/1Okw== Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 16:14:43 +0100 From: Cenk =?utf-8?B?R8O8bmRvxJ9hbg==?= To: roll@ietf.org Message-ID: <20180322151443.GC22668@cgundogan.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: roll@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] Discussion -- DIS modifications draft X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 15:15:03 -0000 --oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, a couple of months ago the draft on DIS modifications [1] expired and we are highly motivated to continue the work on these enhancements during the next months. To summarize, the DIS modification draft tweaks the behaviour of RPL nodes that receive DIS messages. These extensions are backward compatible, so that existing RPL implementations do not break. The tweaks include: 1. control over solicited DIOs (unicast vs multiucast) 2. control over the trickle timer (reset due to inconsistency or not) 3. control over options to include in the solicited DIO This fine-grained control over solicited DIOs inarguably can be leveraged to limit the number of packets on the control plane and deflate solicited DIOs by eliding the mandatory DODAG Conf. option (16 octets) in cases where the DODAG Conf. option is already distributed and trickled down. Our question to everyone in this group is whether there is still enough support and interest in the WG to continue with the work? Cheers, Cenk [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-dis-modifications-00 --=20 Cenk G=C3=BCndo=C4=9Fan Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Dept. of Computer Science / Internet Technologies Group Berliner Tor 7, 20099 Hamburg, Germany Fon: +49 40 42875 - 8426 Mail: cenk.guendogan@haw-hamburg.de Web: https://www.inet.haw-hamburg.de/ --oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEO3dMsPVVAdvZ+Oc2o9vC90TUhNIFAlqzyFwACgkQo9vC90TU hNI+NhAAol//DQr4YaYSUxDi7G9eSWdT3RHFbWUCGkTTitDBgrfpqxUlwqmwoUk0 Egg0Jb5uI/uBPQx4HaPH+w4+hUNNOGioi4JG7Z3jp89HH8/dFB91Xtp/fKCata+N zdKXZs+8Ypxp5tLRZn48LJedwRlndHzE6UjsPKUtqObZtFRuz85S11meIoxQEzwJ KmVkEX+121DnvKgjHhHdBnHQ4JjvUV940ssBskK5rZOqZrtXEW5v5sRcnSRl1EQl m9YaOZBnulY4QeRwH7qpLGFAfAFZYGkZlrKNwW07ch6B25dcrD493Mv47E6Ef0Xa Nj7T0TuD/d/GWchf5ZRCWduBdT4HEjoTec/wtWVBY/wGpWvJ3Tk+ZWWx9JPrrdJ+ +08/t4axJUu5ZMqummEwafC7SSBQA0B7NE0A7TQQF/O707k5IBDhvAwF7rNoFkXE 3o18uSUtigixW4h56e4ny80Mhhox/4lgMDioxu0fn405LGwu5DvaOH14w5U2zXbM Ncy7iqwgwP7NwnJk0m8Zhi8KDfXgv7wuDVue4TDhKHdCuAyQTGFEGZ57lXt2h1MT m4duEsy420DbpX1D2YZXMDwve2+DLVm5mO3anc626YUhYqip9kFJ/UsWk1cBA29V KrC8s5fPREVXcHBaxqE+5RPqZprXwk3O7+1QI+DEXQFdN/hoLMk= =arVg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oTHb8nViIGeoXxdp-- From nobody Thu Mar 22 08:48:52 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9A8127076 for ; 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X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 16:02:27 +0000 Message-ID: <25805.1521734547@dooku.sandelman.ca> Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] Discussion -- DIS modifications draft X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 16:02:42 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cenk G=C3=BCndo=C4=9Fan wrote: Cenk> a couple of months ago the draft on DIS modifications [1] expired Cenk> and we are highly motivated to continue the work on these Cenk> enhancements during the next months. I wondered what had happened to this work... Cenk> Our question to everyone in this group is whether there is still Cenk> enough support and interest in the WG to continue with the work? I'm still interested. =2D-=20 ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh network= s [=20 ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect= [=20 ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails = [=20 =09 --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJas9OTAAoJEJVM4Vb9/EKQjaEH/RqcUJIHAsexZKnNLd8B7qiY Hadd12T6uflSld85ehz9kB8nQ83W1I5+ZB+RgzH+IZe3MhWtmTxOzNQNylpFlcn5 5Hr6GeQ7YfMizpkuVV1oCJTLDQGEArSUrsAZNUN99yDZmfcg0zp2Qc2Uys0kKPVt DNtCnapRjkfqmUxCr3BPeWtM0difGIbpSQ0ivljBKMiGv5cwnenkldZWes5hq7fn fJMAeTipiZ9OiaPgS0wsU6MPBdtQ1qS8j8uI8bJHrBWYPcnjJwYIBYUST4RX4Xcc FGxqnYW5Wi2T5X27xLVV3JNZ1OrgdkUDZ8Rf6qNu/T4guKB1SnRQ8+kZj4sW+5c= =bZZv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From nobody Thu Mar 22 09:25:53 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BD5124B18 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:25:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=googlemail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ronwsBWqruQq for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-it0-x236.google.com (mail-it0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 936D3127010 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-it0-x236.google.com with SMTP id k135-v6so12091213ite.2 for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:25:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Bsw4kcb8DJbkUaAYiNbyhX7ePi3vqyagkuPPINSvoOM=; b=fFyY9+BR1UpUw52ltS1V6XqJS5KZTD/HALKD0tVz48FaoErqOV3vENXZHngn4HbIoZ eH7E+l5DlRa+2mx8FZtqetJkxSr+diaV3/R9NnTa2ijx5NR1itQve2WmUi7BagzOwImo kPJcE8efNoZ3hi0fUWTD49PDPNYksWrtJ8CiCfWdFQyUYzVJHd/AWqiC+Lva6F2cUpsK afpYfe0F8QkHQjvTMiwHhwFUQD33/HouVIG0qx1HRL3Ja50+JWmXLQQX6EGiJlnVdzAY lqAWavKLl3hH+UdSoAkqQ6zGBd4hVJHEbJNwhfqX+UN3IoIYdObmImg7QN+mu3IQDRBz ZZAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Bsw4kcb8DJbkUaAYiNbyhX7ePi3vqyagkuPPINSvoOM=; b=lha1FaUX/L3NPC4vO/nGpWGhIxtKcYlimGW4aW4jA0vw9C+9NM1NPCLJU65i1D9/yS PAwsp2tHz1TzKt9aYpsUH4ubtqTZQQqpACLPSYsiEw/L5/e17xhXlyhuZu9FpfWx+aUm Mw48FZoz7c/9Rz2NH658CMsYlEtsgPh0YCiEnEGsZSOnQNHa6OEs/HF0vkrAoAXaOza/ YIYPUsARkhLHLguHUs6S5qnORqh84P9U904poj9//tm+9IexQE3HmMaBJdsmxyg3fCqR +DWZGWKmJeveBkejuH7j6epGtWx12J/W98phGYHIAjlSptUvvoMgSCdALfh7/9jPK/sp gtmA== X-Gm-Message-State: AElRT7E+r+PuDmDM28eDkFL/UuE72lkhJkHW+kqG3c5nOVpBb3850m5K GAYGJcQec7/INyeE7+0lrV24V3HCRADpwfaCO9k= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4/nLPjYRsvbOLAET/GfwkONWfqTSCE+7ijIL/tN4EVNl2hno5e4FR1flpJ0MGQrMhMrzbnEe+s9BJw3285Hn5o= X-Received: by 2002:a24:a0c6:: with SMTP id o189-v6mr9225528ite.52.1521735943610; Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:25:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20180322151443.GC22668@cgundogan.localdomain> <25805.1521734547@dooku.sandelman.ca> In-Reply-To: <25805.1521734547@dooku.sandelman.ca> From: Ines Robles Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 16:25:32 +0000 Message-ID: To: roll Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005c67ae056802c289" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] Discussion -- DIS modifications draft X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 16:25:52 -0000 --0000000000005c67ae056802c289 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Mar 22, 2018, 16:02 Michael Richardson > > Cenk> Our question to everyone in this group is whether there is still > Cenk> enough support and interest in the WG to continue with the work? > > I'm still interested. > +1 --0000000000005c67ae056802c289 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


= On Thu, Mar 22, 2018, 16:02 Michael Richardson=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cenk> Our question to everyone in this group is whether th= ere is still
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cenk> enough support and interest in the WG to continue wi= th the work?

I'm still interested.
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+1 
This is definitely useful. 

On 22-Mar-2018, at 4:25 PM, Ines Robles <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com> wrote:



On Thu, Mar 22, 2018, 16:02 Michael Richardson  

    Cenk> Our question to everyone in this group is whether there is still
    Cenk> enough support and interest in the WG to continue with the work?

I'm still interested.

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Yes a full erase / write cycle per store is= not optimal... We are doing that and there was reason to do that i could no= t recollect now.. I will reply back again with the details soon. Thanks, Rahul=20 > On 22-Mar-2018, at 10:28 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > Today, at the mike, I asked about wear leveling. >=20 > The numbers in 2.1 seem to assume you do a full erase/write cycle per stor= e operation. > That is not a good way to use Flash storage. Obviously, for true wear lev= eling you need a bit more flash space (and a bit more code, which also needs= flash space), but then there already are other items that you want to commi= t to stable storage on a somewhat regular basis. >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Roll mailing list > Roll@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll From nobody Thu Mar 29 19:50:05 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietf.org Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6926212946D; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 19:49:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: roll@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.76.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152237819939.20387.10192908532755576413@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 19:49:59 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-03.txt X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 02:49:59 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF. Title : Efficient Route Invalidation Authors : Rahul Arvind Jadhav Pascal Thubert Rabi Narayan Sahoo Zhen Cao Filename : draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-03.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2018-03-29 Abstract: This document describes the problems associated with the use of No- Path DAO messaging in RPL and signaling changes to improve route invalidation efficiency. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Mar 29 20:09:31 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1A212946D for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 20:09:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.212 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.212 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kqs7sqqUict8 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 20:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FFB0124205 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 20:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com (unknown [172.18.7.106]) by Forcepoint Email with ESMTP id 829CEE4327C4F for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 04:09:25 +0100 (IST) Received: from BLREML703-CAH.china.huawei.com (10.20.4.172) by lhreml707-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.108.48) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.382.0; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 04:09:26 +0100 Received: from BLREML503-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.12.113]) by blreml703-cah.china.huawei.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0382.000; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 08:39:18 +0530 From: Rahul Arvind Jadhav To: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Thread-Topic: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-03.txt Thread-Index: AQHTx9HfDuCkhQ0I4kGY5ubY92FcLKPoFNKA Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 03:09:17 +0000 Message-ID: <982B626E107E334DBE601D979F31785C5DBC3CA5@BLREML503-MBS.china.huawei.com> References: <152237819939.20387.10192908532755576413@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <152237819939.20387.10192908532755576413@ietfa.amsl.com> Accept-Language: en-IN, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.18.157.44] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-03.txt X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 03:09:30 -0000 Hello ROLL, We have updated the draft as discussed during ietf-101. The updates are : 1. Secure versions of DCO, DCO-ACK messages added 2. Updated Appendix for explaining the message flow. Contrary to our discussion, we are not considering adding the performance d= ata to the appendix because the performance data is biased to implementatio= n specific behavior that was described in my slides in IETF-101 (https://da= tatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-roll-sessb-roll-ietf-10= 1-v3-00 slide 181/182). Instead we have added a sample message flow explana= tion in the appendix. Please let us know if you still think the data should= be added. Regards, Rahul -----Original Message----- From: Roll [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf= .org Sent: 30 March 2018 10:50 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: roll@ietf.org Subject: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-03.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks = WG of the IETF. Title : Efficient Route Invalidation Authors : Rahul Arvind Jadhav Pascal Thubert Rabi Narayan Sahoo Zhen Cao Filename : draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-03.txt Pages : 15 Date : 2018-03-29 Abstract: This document describes the problems associated with the use of No- Path DAO messaging in RPL and signaling changes to improve route invalidation efficiency. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-03 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-roll-efficient-npdao-03 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio= n until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ Roll mailing list Roll@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/roll From nobody Fri Mar 30 01:11:29 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: roll@ietf.org Delivered-To: roll@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68621200E5; Fri, 30 Mar 2018 01:11:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: roll@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.76.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152239748764.20504.11662813946438024204@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 01:11:27 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Roll] I-D Action: draft-ietf-roll-mpl-yang-01.txt X-BeenThere: roll@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2018 08:11:28 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG model for Multicast Protocol for Low power and lossy Networks (MPL) Author : Peter van der Stok Filename : draft-ietf-roll-mpl-yang-01.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2018-03-30 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for management of Multicast Protocol for Low power and lossy Networks (MPL) implementations. The data model includes configuration data and state data. Note Discussion and suggestions for improvement are requested, and should be sent to roll@ietf.org. 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